Why Does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame HATE Actual Rock? The Top 5 SNUBS EVER! | Professor of Rock
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Okay, so this one’s an episode I’ve been needing to do for a long time. And I’ll be upfront with you. It’s a topic that really gets under my skin, so I’ll try to be positive. Today we’re counting down my all-time, Top 5 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snubs… bands and artists who are well overdue for the so-called honor, but routinely get passed over year after year. There is a long list of rock hall snubs…From Iron Maiden to The Guess Who from Pixies to Motorhead from New York Dolls to the Smiths from Joy Division/New Order to Slayer from Styx to Foreigner to Jethro Tull and Thin Lizzy, Motley Crue, Toto the list goes on and on. We’re also going to try to figure out why the Rock Hall routinely refuses to induct actual rock artists into their ranks. They’re called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but they seem to have a bias against rock and Roll? I’m not going to be pulling any punches here. I just want to give some love to some classic rock icons that I think we all admire and I want to hear yours too… It’s all coming up… NEXT on the Professor of Rock.
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Billed as “Rock’s Highest Honor”, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame touts their inductees as “the people who shaped the history of rock and roll.” And you know what, I think there are a lot of artists in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who deserve that honored designation. But then again, there are some who don’t as well. In fact, there are some inclusions as well as exclusions that I just can’t wrap my head around.
I just got into some of this recently with a live stream I did about this year’s class of inductees… If you haven’t seen it, go check it out after this. But for this episode, I want to give you my Top 5 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snubs. Five acts that without a doubt should be in, but have been passed over time and time again.
So the rules for getting inducted are simple, though not easy to accomplish… According to the Rock Hall’s website, “Inductees are recognized for having contributed over 25 years of musical excellence.” And you know what, that’s actually kind of vague. But at the same time, it’s also pretty telling for what it doesn’t say. Which is that inductees are recognized for contributing over 25 years of “rock and roll” excellence. That’s a pretty important distinction… Wouldn’t you say? You would think that an institution that calls itself The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, would actually prioritize inducting “rock and roll” acts into their ranks.
But instead, they seem to have created this open-ended list of genres and they seem to be more focused on being politically correct than inducting based on merit, influence, and longevity. I’m not going to open that can of worms. I’m simply going to offer five acts that should be in. - Розваги
Poll: What are your personal picks for the biggest Rock and Roll Hall of Fame SNUBS?
Jethro Tull, Steppenwolf geez
Gotta say it's a shame how the White Stripes weren't first ballot inductees. Them as well as Joy Division/New Order and Soundgarden have got to be the top 3.
Foreigner
Foreigner, Fanny, Paul Rodgers, Inxs, Boston. I know you are familiar with Fanny Professor!
Fanny was the first female rock band to release an Album on a major label, Reprise Records (1970). They were the first female rock band to tour extensively as well. Their band name is to denote the female spirit. Classic lineup June Millington-lead vocals/lead guitar; Jean Millington-lead vocals,bass; Nickey Barclay- lead vocals, keys;Alice de Buhr-drums, vocals.
Styx - they're so overdue.
RRHOF is a joke. Being snubbed is an honor.
Kansas
lol
Being snubbed is never an honor! Those of us that snub the “Hall of Fame”, get it. But it is a travesty overall!
@@HeisenbergfammKansas deserves to be there! Much better than Cardi B!!! Megan The Stallion is sexy AF, but her music is a joke!!
Motely Crew?? Nothing good after Home Sweet Home!! A horrible band that sucked in all live performances after Dr Feelgood! Everyone has seen the “Miss sang lyrics with fat bloated Neil struggling to sing his own lyrics” !!! He is just a joke at this point! A fat, sissified teddy bear who is just a joke of his former self!!
Edit: Only Mick Mars survives as the only true rocker from this band! The only one who stayed true to Rock!!
Being Canadian, we are dumbfounded that “The Guess Who”, with classics like American Woman and These Eyes by Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman, has been snubbed over and over. Even BTO, (Bachman Turner Overdrive) with one of the most played iconic songs in the history of rock, Taking Care of Business along with numerous other hits. Even Randy Bachman, who was a founding member of The Guess Who and BTO could be inducted into the hall. Finally, my personal favourite Canadian iconic band, The Tragically Hip, with the late frontman, Gord Downie. True Canadian royalty. Come one man, it’s a total disgrace that these rock giants are snubbed and Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson and Harry Belafonte are inducted. Don’t get me wrong, Dolly, Willie and Harry are all ground breaking artists in their own right, but NOT in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.
While I completely agree for all of them. But the Hall of Fame is completely America-centric. So while the Guess Who have a shot, the Hip have no chance of even making the long list for consideration let alone actually getting in.
I’m an American and I’m shocked The Guess Who aren’t in.
Silly, and sad.
Well said fellow Canadian.
Be happy “you” got Rush in! LOL. I absolutely agree with you.
Chilliwack, Trooper, Loverboy, April Wine, Harlequin, and many more great Canadian bands.
My picks are: Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, Three Dog Night, Styx, Jethro Tull
Not GFR! cheers
Jethro Tull was the first Hard Rock band inducted.
Still pisses me off that Boston isn't in yet
I was wondering if Grand Funk was in. I also posted about Styx.
Those guys have all been snubbed? Wow.
I literally weep over the fact that Paul Rodgers is so underrated and overlooked.
Look at the list of guitarists that chose Paul Rodgers as their vocalist. Paul Kossoff, Mick Ralphs, Jimmy Page, and Brian May.
I’m with you!
I've reached the point where I completely and utterly ignore The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They have rendered themselves irrelevant by their own actions, and I don't see how they could ever undo that. Their snubs no longer matter.
Totally FKIN Agree !
Just throw them in the 🗑️.
Totally fucking agree! And censorship sucks.
I think there needs to be a hall of fame called all things rock Include rock and roll. And all John rose of heavy metal. Do not allow any other genre of music in it like joke. Called the rock roll hall of fame.
much like the emmys.. all major awards are comprimised.
They became absolutely irrelevant to me when they started inducting rappers.
You got that right !
And disco and country and pop music.
It will be ok as soon as The Beatles are induced into the Hip-Hop hof😂
rap in rock hall of fame?? Rap is crap ,no talent . Everything is going woke!
BS!.... Typical of today's society to pass the blame. Fact is the R&R Hall of Fame has a LONG HISTORY of accepting and inducting musicians from ALL types of musical backgrounds and GENRES for nearly half a century now. Just because you don't care for Rap music does not mean that artists making music in the genre don't have a place or thst their talent shouldn't be recognized. Unless you're going to call for the removal of artists such as Abba/BB King/The BeeGees/Stevie Wonder, Earth, Wind & Fire/ Ray Charles/Otis Redding/Robert Johnson and so many others that I don't have time to even begin to count I suggest people get over this.
The bottom line is that the Rock and roll Hall of Fame has basically been a general Music Hall of Fame for ages now and while I agree the name should be changed to reflect the fact that they recognize more genre styles than rock alone I do not agree that has lost its way for found something it has always done. To say it has somehow become politically correct is absurd and an obnoxious and disappointing statement that I can't believe the Professor bothered making. Even if I do agree that these artist listed should have their within the hall.
You want the real reason there aren't more rock and rollers being admitted into the Hall of Fame lately? There are people to blame but it's not the Hall of Fame. If y'all want to blame someone. I suggest you look in the mirror because it is the parents of children that failed to pass on the history of rock and roll and the appreciation of playing real instruments to create music using sampling and computer synthesized audio tracks. Blame yourselves for not rushing to the support of Music & Arts program funding in schools with your money but instead throwing piles of money a sports programs and then wonder why kids don't have any appreciation of other types of music. Blame yourselves because it's your faults that rock had fallen out of favor with the youth of today and if unlikely to ever make a strong comeback. It's obvious when you watch a music reaction video on UA-cam and you see the surprise from these kids that someone actually played a real instrument in the song. Something that shouldn't be a surprise to any kid who went to a school with a decent music program. I bet they wouldn't be as surprised if somebody could throw a football though would they?
When I was in school and taking part in chorus, band and arts based classes that is where I discovered other types of music such as Mozart, Beethoven, Dixie Land and Blues. If I hadn't had that exposure I would have known only pop music, a bit of country and snippets of rock and roll since I rarely got to see my parents enjoy anything in the way of music since all they had time to do was work and sleep with tiny bits of time they could devote to spending time with us kids. That is because the family unit is fallen apart as well over the years.
So yes, there are people to blame for the current state of the music industry. But don't blame the Hall of Fame and don't blame me, after all I don't have any kids but if I did I damn well would teach them better than what y'all have done with yours.
Foreigner, Iron Maiden, Boston, Sammy Hagar, Ozzy Osbourne, The Guess Who, Pat Benatar, Soundgarden, Motley Crue, BTO, Toto, Dio.
Pat and Neil are in
You snubbed the biggest snub if we go by the numbers; Sytx. Only band in music history to release 5 double platinum in secession on first run. Over 50 million albums sold. Imo, Styx is the biggest snub.
Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Pat Benatar, Peter Frampton Frampton are all in now.
The fact that Donna Summers got in years before the Doobies tells you all you need to know about the R&R hall of fame.
tbf - Donna Summer's 'I Feel Love' was a pivotal record in the development of popular music. But it's not very Rock 'n Roll
Yeah, it's not the disco hall of fame.
I was part of the Disco Rebellion......July 12, 1979....Donna Summer inducted....Heresy!!! (She has her place maybe a R.& B. Hero.)
@@mosriteminioncause7741 Nobody says that Disco can't have it's own Hall of Fame. There would be a lot of great artists there. Those songs are classics with great music.
The Rock Hall of Fame is a sellout trying to be all things to all people. Maybe they need that to be able to honor true Rock stars, but then again, so many great Rock Stars are ignored and left out.
@@charlesmyers8150 You are right on the money!!! (Disco Has its place, just like any other kind of music) It seems much llike, in the spirit of what you said..The Rock Hall of Fame seems exists for its own purposes and may need to be called "The Everything to Everyone Hall of Popularity."☮💯% 👍
Not having Iron Maiden, Mötley Crüe, Foreigner or The Smiths, who are all long-time icons, but having Jay-Z, is a crime against humanity.
Jay z has contributed to rock in all fairness. Of all the rappers, he definitely deserved s spot in the hof for his impact
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Hip hop or Rap hall of Fame, of course. But rock'n'roll? I don't know, there are plenty of real rock artists who haven't been inducted and did way more for rock music
Never was a fan of Motley Crue, even as a teenager when they were at their peak, I looked at them as overrated, much better bands in the 80s, and bigger bands in the 80s.
What's a jayzhee??
it just depends how you look at it. to start a hip hop hall of fame now, after all this time just wouldn’t mean anything, no matter how hard they tried to make it seem like it. but the rock n roll hall of fame has meaning, it’s considered the mecca of musical accomplishment. for that reason- they started to induct hip hop artists as they should i think. cuz to me it’s not so much a rock n roll hall of fame as it is just a musical hall of fame. the best music produced in the modern era all the way to today. so then looking at it from that aspect, how the fck are you gonna leave out the entire hip hop genre when you have such influential artists like eminem, tupac, jay z, lil wayne, dr. dre and kanye. these guys are some of the most influential music artists of all time, not to mention some of the greatest sellling artists of all time too. the rock n roll hall of fame should be renamed to like The Rock n Roll and Various Genres Hall of Fame or some shit. idk, im sure there’s a better name out there but you get my point. but this is just one fan who loves and appreciates all music genres’ humble opinion.
The reality is that NOT being included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a badge of honor!
😂😂😂
I agre. The RnR HOF is a shit show and full of egos and turds
Society honors it's living conformists ,and it's dead troublemakers. Why do you think they inducted Frank Zappa after he was dead?
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
JETHRO TULL, GUESS WHO and GRAND FUNK RAILROAD.
And add Peter Frampton, Ten Years After and Foghat...
Rock N Roll HOF is pure crap. I could care less about them anymore.
Absolutely correct on Jethro Tull, The Guess Who, & Grand Funk Railroad not being the the RRHoF. Richard
Rush's induction to the Hall of Fame is must viewing. From Neil Peart's subtle swipes (Did he mean to say they've been 'indicted' into the Hall of Fame? Of course he did!) to Alex Lifeson's hilarious pantomime, it is a classic takedown of that institution.
Ronnie James Dio. Period. Co-wrote 3 of the greatest hard rock albums of all time with three different iconic bands. 1975’s Rising by Rainbow, 1980’s Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbath and 1983’s Holy Diver by Dio. The greatest voice in Hard Rock & Metal and one of the most influential musicians in Hard Rock & Metal. This is a no brainer.
You know Sharon/Ozzy had something to do with it, but he should have gone in with Sabbath the same way Sammy went in with VH.
Agreed
You're delusional, living in an echo chamber of self confirmation. Those albums are greater than Who's next and Led Zeppelin I, for example. Totally absurd. The albums you refer to are well produced and performed. Good hard rock/metal albums. Nothing more, nothing less.
I would add "Mob Rules" in there as well. Ronnie should be in there with Rainbow, Sabbath and DIO.
I definitely agree with RJD. He's one of my picks. 🤘
This goes back aways, so people forget, Tommy James and the Shondells. With songs like Crimson and Clover, Crystal Blue Persuasion, Mony Mony, Hanky Panky, Mirage, Draggin' the Line, Sweet Cherry Wine and more. He was one of the original innovators in rock and roll with his song being covered by many popular artist.
Put Runaways Joan Jett who broke out of obscurity rebirthing The Shondelles
Tommy is playing @ the Golden Nugget in Vega$ 🎶
Have you read his book? What a story.
Styx, Foreigner, Scorpions, Stone Temple Pilots, Meatloaf (with Jim Steinman)
OH yeah. Meatloaf. For real on that one.
Ok, my friend, you have more power than you think. Simply start the Professor of Rock Hall of Fame. Do it every year, let fans vote - to quote Captain Kirk in the famous episode "Mirror, Mirror" - - - " In every revolution there's one man with a vision"
I love this idea!
I agree with all your picks Professor. I would also include The Guess Who, B.T.O, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Scorpions.
Good ones!
You are so right. Great Great list!
No to all your picks
I agree with all of these.
Scorpions for sure. Jeez there been around since the sixties
Kansas & Styx, hands down. Their skill and their musical creativity & depth, in combination with their commercial success and longevity, makes them no-brainers who should've been in far, far ahead of so many others who've been inducted. Hard to respect the RRHOF without them there . . . . I agree with many of the names others list: Foreigner, Toto, & King Crimson would be my other three. The Crim have never been hitmakers, and while their path has been uniquely their own and their iterations have been seemingly endless, their influence on other groups is massive -- never the "cool kid" band, but the musician's musicians know and respect them highly.
Gotta throw REO into that group - they were as big as STYX in that same time period, in the same style - and definitely bigger than Kansas - not that I disagree with you
Just think of how many people would be in the Hall as members of both King Crimson and Yes.
Styx should have been in a long time ago. Supertramp is even more deserving, in my opinion.
Stynx? You must be kidding!
I've never heard any up and coming band ever cite Kansas or Styx as an influence.
Just off the top of my head.... Foghat... Ten Years After...Steppenwolf... Savoy Brown... Grass Roots...Uriah Heep... Johnny Rivers...The Guess Who and on and on and on and on...................... Why doesn't hip hop have their own HOF and when they do, do you think they'll have any Rock and Roller in it? I think not.
Good list!
Spirit…
My list of 5 unforgiveable snubs in no particular order: Monkees, Knack, Gerry Rafferty, Boz Scaggs, Bad CO. But obviously Boston, Foreigner, Billy Squier, Billy Idol, and Dave Matthews are also mysteriously absent with no credible explanation.
INXS and Boston are not in because their lead singers died self inflicted. It is not fair to the other bandmates but I think that it the reason. They think it will be depressing and with no lead singer, the performing will not be the same and they want that buzz of bands doing their thing on their stage. Boston also is seen as "too American" as straight up rock and roll was not popular in Europe and their success was too american. British musicians say the same thing about the HOF and they are snubbed saying they were too British and had little world wide success.
The Monkees for sure. And Bad Company
1a. Styx
1b. Boston
2. Toto
3. Foreigner (I don't think they're as great as the next few, but they nailed a ton of massive hits)
4. Blue Oyster Cult
5. Kansas
HM: Steppenwolf, Foghat, BTO, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, B-52s, Ted Nugent, Huey Lewis & News, Robert Palmer, REO Speedwagon
Grand Funk, Mountain and Humble Pie .. as well
No disrespect but all those are mostly corny ass candy bands that didn’t inspire or leave a mark on the genre.
@@cactaceous😂💩🤡
@@rodger7029 I’m not twelve so I don’t know how to read emoji. I don’t communicate with symbols, I use words like an adult.
Gene Simmons was right you should have bought it and Burn It Down
Supertramp is my snub and a half. Breakfast In America and Crime Of The Century are iconic. Pop and progressive rock masterpieces with technical musical brilliance with chord progressions, thematics of the lyricism and incorporation of two opposing vocal styles and ranges. Its a crime of the century they aren't in the hall of fame.
Indeed, Supertramp is in this 65 yr. olds top 10.
Great play on words and I absolutely agree with you
I respect the album but they were hot for 1-2 years... Unless I am missing something.
@@jannarkiewicz633 I would tend to agree with you. Despite my earlier comment. The only songs I listen to are off “Crime of the Century” and “Even in the Quietest Moments.” And “Goodbye Stranger “ from “Breakfast……”
@@chrisweidner4768 Violent Femmes... Their first album like Breakfast in America dominated. And then....
Another Boston-based band, The J. Geils Band, is a *huge* snub. Too many fans only know them for the stuff off of "Freeze Frame" and miss out on their great early work. On top of that, they're one of the greatest live acts *ever*, and if you doubt that, I just have to point out "Musta Got Lost" from "Blow Your Face Out" with the Woofa Goofa's famous "Raputa the Buta" rap intro.
I would probably round out my five with Boston, Alan Parsons, Ronnie James Dio (there's something to be said for successfully fronting three different acts and not have substance abuse be a factor in leaving each of them), and Styx.
J. Geils was the best concert I ever attended.
@@boxerrebAlan Parson was incredible. I have three albums on reel to reel.
I agree with your snub assessment. Additional snubs such as Rolling Stone magazine keeping Joe Satriani off their top 100 guitarist list is equally as baffling!
My five personal snubs include Jethro Tull, Kansas, ELP, Supertramp, and Blue Oyster Cult. Honorable mentions include Foreigner, Bad Company, Thin Lizzy, Asia, Styx and Psychedelic Furs to name just a few.
Definitely Blue Oyster Cult 😅
How bout Badfinger
The a Psychedelic Furs are one of my favorite bands!
It's almost criminal that Jethro Tull, Kansas, and ELP have all been snubbed.
Well, now that Wenner is OUT, maybe that will change.
Completely agree with Supertramp. Their music has held up way better then most of the bands of the 70's. Everyone knows their hits. Young and old.
1 Grand Funk Railroad. 2. Three Dog Night. 3 Paul Rodgers. 4. The Guess Who. 5. Foreigner
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Absolutely. It's astonishing that those exact 5 acts haven't already been in there for over a decade already.
Absolutely. It's astonishing that those exact 5 acts haven't already been in there for over a decade already.
AMEN
agree with everyone on your list!
The Guess Who. At least 7 memorable top 10 hits during an era that was totally filled with pop rock legends. Two legendary musicians in the band who spun off into greatness on their own and with other bands. Canadian bias?
STYX-huge snub!!!!!!!
Foreigner I believe are in it hopefully to get in it this year
Journey was another one who seemed to take forever, fortunately 2017, the year Journey was nominated I believe 1/3 of the votes could come from the fans I was on everyday from my email voting for them, Journey made us look at rock/power ballads differently, why did that take so long, but a band I believe like Oingo Boingo was in there-shaking my head
Jethro Tull!!! They have been around for 50+ years, are incredibly innovative, talented and versatile, and in my opinion, Ian Anderson is one of the best, if not the best, songwriter/lyricist in the genre.
I was shocked to learn they had not been inducted, and even wrote the “Rock Hall” an email questioning this several years ago. Since then, there have been quite a few questionable “honorees”. Apparently there are many other deserving “snubs” which I was not aware of. Really makes you wonder how they make their selections!
Yes, because of Tull's exclusion, I now call it the "Rock and Roll Hall of Lame." 😧
A Triple Bill with Jethro Tull, The Marshall Tucker Band, and Kansas would have a scorching "Power Flute" Jam! Incidentally, Gene Simmons perfectly dismissed the credible existence of The RRHOF a number of years ago...😂😏🎤🎼🎶🎶🎸🎹🥁B.W.
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Ian Anderson pissed off the people in the Rock Clique when he suggested he could have written better lyrics for zeppelin than Robert Plant. I'm pretty sure that's why.
@@peterpitchford6225 Interesting!
I can't understand how *_Reo Speedwagon_* hasn't been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. They've been entertaining audiences since 1966. The comforting vocals and keyboard, contrasting savage, heavy guitar solos somehow worked. The lyrics were relatable, and anyone would find themselves singing along whenever their music plays. Another injustice by the RRHOF.
Agreed, I'd also make the case that no one was copying Boston because Boston copied REO Speedwagon!
Kevin Cronin is such a talent as a musician and singer. How they are not in is beyond me.
I'm sure not everyone will agree with me, but I think Jefferson Starship/Starship should get some consideration. I would love if the Professor of Rock could interview Craig Chaquico.
Absolutely
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I SOO agree!!! REO ruled in th mid to late 70s. AND they are STILL drawing crowds with th "nostalgia for arena rock crowd" people (like me😉). So Rock Hall, WTF?!?!
Greetings frm Detroit, Michigan, USA😎
With the passing of Eric Carmen, I've been thinking the Raspberries belong in the RRHOF. Great power pop band from CLEVELAND!
This is really a very good list. I agree with all the picks, and with the criticisms of the Rock Hall. Great job!
I can't believe Peter Frampton hasn't been inducted, he is truly one of best guitarist. I first saw him in concert when I was 16 in 1978, and have been lucky enough to attend many concerts. He is absolutely AMAZING I finally got to meet him in 2019 during his Farwell tour. A moment I will never forget. Really enjoy the interviews you have done with him.
I think his politics is blocking him. Politics plays a big deal in nominations.
Very very good point-Frampton’s omission-he is more than a former teen idol, he has tremendous guitar chops. An icon of the mid-Seventies, and he’s not already in? Good job, Disco Hall Of Fame.
Absolutely! You are a lucky to have seen him in his hey day! F. C.A. Is my favourite live album!
That's why Ted Nugent will never get in...
@@robchiappe9253 I got those two mixed up I think.
How about Kansas? Their depth of songs and musicianship is unparalleled. Kerry’s song writing , Steve and Robby’s vocals. When they were opening for other bands, they blew them off the stage. They were so well rehearsed Brian May said they were so tight they sounded like a recording playing live.
They made some true epics. Dust in the Wind alone should have gotten them in. One of the greatest songs ever.
Absolutely! Kansas is so deserving.
Saw them for the 1st time just before the pandemic. Even with the new singer, it was EPIC. They had a violinist playing on stage and were staying at the same hotel as I was.
Been on one of my "Kansas kicks" recently. Every couple of years I revisit the catalog and am RE-blown away by the sheer musicianship of these guys. Yes, absolutely deserving of RRHOF.
Kansas has to be one of the most screwed over bands in history.
Back in 87-88, a friend of mine would DJ at a college radio station on late Saturday night and I would go with and we would have some beer and 19:28 smoke. But mostly it was like having the worlds biggest record collection! Could pretty much play what we wanted. And take and play requests. One night this hammered guy called and said his girlfriend would do the nasty if we played foreigner hot blooded. So we played it and say this is for Mike and Michelle! Then he called and he was so happy. We played that sucker 4 times 😂😂😂😂. We got chewed out but what the heck! Rock and Roll baby!!!
Thank You for putting Paul Roger’s in your story! I’ve been an admirer of Paul’s for 50+ years and I was friends with Andy Frazier until he passed. 🎵🎼I played there 20 years ago …. But was put off by the crap they had on display…
I’d have to say that I agree with a lot of those, but the Guess Who not being in the hall is a war crime. I also believe Steppenwolf and Joe Cocker are also big misses and was kinda disappointed they weren’t a mention. As Cocker is credited by many Rock legends as one of there biggest inspirations.
Amen to that! The Guess Who was an absolute legend!
Wow! I had just assumed all of those were in the hall. It is ludicrous that they're not.
Yes I was going to say something about the guess who how can they have the number one worldwide selling album in 1970 American woman and not be in the Hall of Fame can't believe it
Steppenwolf Had such interesting lyrics about good subjects pumped up with good music. And just kept improving. Couldn't figure out the snub.
Joe Cocker heads my list of biggest snubs, but reading through the lists on this page there are so many that are much more deserving than a large percentage of those already in. Especially those that I don't consider rockers.
Jethro Tull - A one-of-a-kind band that put out a solid string of albums in the 70s--including a couple chart toppers.
Three Dog Night - From 1968 through 1974 these guys were all over the radio, and they were a strong concert draw too.
King Crimson - A band that pushed the boundaries of rock music and forged a highly individual path.
Grand Funk Railroad - A live powerhouse and musical juggernaut with strong selling albums and a few hits too.
Bad Company - Paul Rodgers was in the band. Nuff said.
Especially King Crimson
Boston should be there and Bad Company should be there ...but what is incomprehensible is that Jethro Tull is not in the Rock Hall of Fame, even in music schools and music conservatories JT is considered the most commercial pionering progressive rock band. No other band has the style of Jethro Tull nor ever will
@@billolin8027 Ohh YES KIng Crimson.
Yes. Ian has throat cancer, it would be nice for the band to be inducted now.
Agree with King Crimson and Grand Funk...would add Ted Nugent
Stopped tour video for a minute, I couldn't agree more; love your show👍🌹
Hey talking about ahead of their time how about Sweet. I saw all the greats from the early 70's to mid nineties and their four part harmony vocals were second to none. Saw them on the "Give us a wink " tour. They played the full Desolation Boulevard in album order. It's impact on me still lives today. In a word "Killer" !
Plus, Sweet influenced so many other bands, including ones that have been inducted.
I loved it when Steve Miller called them on the carpet for a variety of things several years ago. My respect for Steve went up by about 1,000 % after that
He only advocated for more women, so we got Stevie Nicks a second time, the Go Go's, Pat Benatar and wait for it Dolly Parton who has absolutely no business being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I do like Steve Miller but his speech didn't help the Hall gain more credibility.
Steve Miller in an interview on Houston Classic rock station said that Led Zepplin wasted their talent!
Stairway, Kashmir, Ramble On ..,
Fill in the list for me
Then he claimed to be part of The San Fran sound- The Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver
Are you kidding me
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke.
A very unfunny joke.
Thumbs up if you agree.
When Madonna is in and Iron Maiden is not, it becomes laughable.
@@robr9411 this is exactly what I tell everyone when trying to diss hall of shame.
Damn we think alike
I hear all of these tasteless one hit wonders, Carlos Santana and Santana as a group hopefully with Greg Rollie, just finally got in when he did the album with all the new musicians. They were at freaking Woodstock! I am glad they got his whole band in . Robin Trower needs to be in too, he is what 80 years old and still plays a full schedule and he has most amazing sweep picking technique of anyone! His Strat still has 11s tuned down a half step but he’s been around since 1966, James Dewar was the velvet baritone! Jude with Trower, Dewar, Reg Isidore. Procal Harem! And every year there’s another “ Boo Boo and the Numb Nuts” inducted. I just play my iPhone play lists and shake my head.
Like, I m no fan of Malmsteen, but you would have to be stupid not to admit that he can play, Eric Johnson, he’s not my cup of tea either, but you have to admit that they are great musicians who have sonic capabilities that speak you. Will they ever get in. David Gilmour is my favorite guitarist of all time and his voice is still outstanding and I am glad that he is in. He is the epitome of what the hall should reward !
@@robr9411 I think I would like to adopt your response, if you don’t mind, because that pop schlock is what has eaten the institution’s credibility away.
It's amazing that Bob Seger did make it into RRHOF on his last shot at eligibility. Also amazing is that the fans did make a difference in pulling him over the hall bias.
It would have been a travesty if he was excluded given the man's life played out like what you'd expect of a rock musician: touring endlessly, album after album until breaking through years after his first, building a following long before the world ever heard of him. Bob's perseverance alone deserves recognition, but his place in the hall almost didn't happen. It just shows to go you that they have misplaced priorities if they have them at all.
"One of the most common criticisms of the hall of fame is that the nomination process is controlled by a small number of individuals who are not themselves musicians, such as founders Jann Wenner and Suzan Evans, and writer Dave Marsh, reflecting their personal tastes rather than public opinion as a whole." - quote from Wikipedia RRHOF article 🤣
They need to stop calling it the Rock and Roll HOF, and start calling it the Music HOF instead.
Most of it is NOT music !
The Rolling Stone Magazine Hall of Fame would be accurate.
Almost!!! Some of the crap they’ve put in there can’t be called music!!!🤮🤮🤮
It’s the David Fricke & Jan Wenner mixtape Hall of Shame!!! Who other than these two idiots award Jethro Tull over Metallica the 1st year that Metal genre is added????
When they allow rap & don't even consider bands like Foreigner, even though they have been eligible for over 20 years, there's something wrong.
What about Three Dog Night? So many classic songs and yet not even a sniff. Sadly we're starting to lose some of these fantastic artists and they may never know if they make it. This one is a screaming shame!
They were a great band.
Kings of the 70’s. One hit after another.
Blue Oyster Cult, Dio, Iron Maiden, & Scorpions.
Snubs - Bad Company, The Scorpions, Jethro Tull, Three Dog Night, Grand Funk Railroad…
Just seeing this. My biggest snub is Emerson Lake and Palmer. Filled stadiums, using the synthesizer as a feature instrument. Karn Evil 9, Lucky Man, Fanfare, From The Beginning. Great songs and the godfathers of prog.
Too intellectual but i loved them since Nice...
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And don’t forget Greg Lake’s “Father Christmas” which brought the guys together for that song and it’s a classic
Absolutely. In the 70s, they were arguably the biggest band in the world, selling out stadiums, headlining pop festivals like the California Jam, selling more in a single concert as the sole act than Led Zeppelin, the list goes on and on. As a live act, what they did preceded all the great live acts that copied them. For talent, they dwarfed Rush or any other band, man for man. They were a huge force, but because the rock critics hated them, they were forced into obscurity. It is definitely a shame, particularly after Keith and Greg died. Only Carl Palmer is left...
ELP. Yes1
Warren Zevon- truly one of the most underrated songs writers in Rock and roll. If you can write polyvinyl chloride into a song lyric, you deserve a place there
He should be in for "Werewolves of London". That song is dark humor at its finest. Go even deeper and you get songs like "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" and "Excitable Boy". He took topics that no one else would consider and turned them to gold, ala Rumpelstiltskin!
Guess he needs to send lawyers,guns,and money to get in😅😅😅
The estate of the late Zevon will send lawyers, guns, and money to argue their case that this was an unfair snub. 😉
I'd throw in Ian Hunter as well
Brucellosis is another one!
I always liked you PoR. Now I love you. You are absolutely right. These songs saved lives for sure.
There is a light that never goes out is an anthem for the marginalized and disaffected. This handsome man,cometary gates,
Sheila take a bow, girlfriend in a coma, angel down we go together. All classics. We are simpatico here.
Johnny Marr may be the most underrated guitar player of all time. Thank you.
My personal picks: Grand Funk Rail Road, Kansas, ELP, Boston & Supertramp
Kansas
Supertramp
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Styx
Foreigner
Blue Oyster Cult
REO Speedwagon
And it took forever and a day for Pat Benetar to get in?!
Quit calling it the R&R HOF, call it the pop music HOF, or start HOFs for all the various genres( especially prog rock)
Blue Oyster Cult were the soundtrack to my teenage years. Such a great band and their still touring!
Excellent list.
Crimson will probably get in fairly soon believe it or not, as they have a small amount of critical and hipster cred. The rest will be a long wait unfortunately :(
It took them forever to get Rush in.
I fell off my chair reading your list. What a joke. RRHOF has become a joke.
My # 1 most aggravating Rock and Roll Hall of Shame snub ? Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
- They sold many millions of albums,
- They filled giant stadiums all around the world (setting many attendance records in the process),
- In 1974, ELP was tied for #1 with Led Zeppelin in the annual readers poll,
- And yes, they were trail blazers in the truest sense of the word.
And yet the RRHoS refuses to give them the credit that is so badly overdue to them.
It's too intellectual for the voters...Prog rock is for the snob for a lot of people. King Crimson too deserve to have a recognition of the RHF.
Agree 100%
And King Crimson.
Great list. Would put Bad Company at #1. Would put Grand Funk Railroad at #5 over Foreigner.
You nailed it in the first four minutes, but I can't believe you, even you the Professor Of Rock snubbed the biggest snub of all, yes I'm talking about THE MONKEES.
My biggest snub is Blue Oyster Cult. They didn't have a lot of top hits, but they put out a ton of albums and were one of the earliest heavy metal bands. They influenced SO many artists and headlined several massive tours.
Yes Blue Oyster Cult is also one of my picks as well
Just their 2 big commercial hits makes them better than 90% of the so called HOF.
Robin Trower Frank Marino and mahogany rush Andrew Bachman-Turner Overdrive
That to me is what matters, How has rock performer(s) influenced rock and kept Rock going?
Nah, Blue Oyster Cult has two good songs. Always hated when a band I liked played with them.
I stopped paying attention when they started inducting rappers and pop stars. It's shocking the amount of rock bands that never get a look in.
The institution is in name only.
How about Dolly? She didn't even want to be nominated.
Mfs still alive in 2024 only listening to rock 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Cheerful indifference" - I love it, self -belief and ignoring those who had their own axe to grind!!!
Why does everyone overlook STYX? 4 consecutive platinum records and possibly the first power ballad with Lady. Along with Foreigner, Boston, Journey and REO, they defined album rock rock in the 70's & early 80's.
I think Black Sabbath has Styx beat with the first power ballad by a year with their song Changes, off their Vol IV lp.
@@ncexnyc4466 Ya, you may be right about that!
@@ncexnyc4466 changes is definitely a rock ballad from a heavy rock group but not really a power ballad. It doesn't change cadence and rock out like Lady or Come Sail Away from Styx, Stairway to Heaven, Hotel California etc
I'd give first rock anthem/power ballad to The Who with Baba O'Riley. It starts soft and turns into an anthemic rock song and released before then all....
Because platinum albums doesn't an inductee make & no they didn't defined anything in the 70's & 80's!
I noticed that too. Styx has been eligible since the late 90's. And have quite the lengthy discography of music. More so than Foreigner & Boston...
Boston, Styx, Bachmann Turner Overdrive and REO Speedwagon need to be placed into the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame!
Styx isn't in??? WTF
John Denver, Jim Croce, Christopher Cross
King Crimson, Queens of the Stone Age, Wham!, George Michael
Monkees, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Motorhead, Husker Du, Black Flag
How do you exclude REO
Very glad that you mentioned Boston!
I just came across this video from last year, and I could not agree more with your choices! At least one of them is getting in this year (Foreigner), and.. your t-shirt was prophetic with the Dave Matthews Band getting in this year too.. and OZZY!!! YES!!! So excited about that. Now.. we need to make a push for 2025 for Boston AND Paul Rodgers. Not having those 2 in is an absolute CRIME imo.
The Scorpions are the only one you left out that really has influenced many bands that have been playing music for 50 years, and still sound excellent live with 120 million albums sold, what is it going to take?
I'm glad you made this though because I definitely would be behind a real rock and roll hall of fame for us fans.
Scores were my top choice also. Saw them in oct 2022 at the Oakland Colosseum. First time I saw them was at the Day on the Green and also Monsters of Rock. Love em. Great live band.
Damn right!
The Scorpions 🦂 have new music in every decade since 1972. Still doing worldwide tours. Rudolph and Klaus are 75 years old. ❤
One of my favorites!!!
Saw them on the Savage Amusement tour. They were and are incredible.
How anyone can leave Jethro Tull off a list like this is beyond my comprehension. Ian Anderson doesn't care if they get in, and I don't blame him. Martin Barre is one of the most underrated guitarists of all time.
Ian and the guys will never get in, a travesty truly, but those idiots don't have a clue.
Jethro Tull is so good that their absence from the Rock Hall invalidates the whole experience for me.
I think Clark and I just became best friends. I have to say…Martin Barre’s virtuosic playing and powerful guitar tone on the track “Minstrel in the Gallery” is simply incredible. Fun fact: The main guitar riff in that song supposedly inspired the one in “Miss America” by Styx.
Ian Anderson is a prolific genius and the GOAT of front men. Tights, codpiece and flute? No one had more moxy. He's the consummate showman.
Very true, don't forget Jim Morrison with his madness. Too many front men are just strutting peacocks. On final name Roger Chapman of Family.
in no particular order...Black Flag, The Damned, Hüsker Dü, The Violent Femmes, The Stranglers, The Jam, Echo and the Bunnymen, Bauhaus, The Cramps, The Divinyls, The Psychedelic Furs, The Dead Kennedys, The Specials, X-Ray Spex, Love and Rockets, Midnight Oil, The Buzzcocks, The Dead Boys, The Meat Puppets, Split Enz, The Dickies, Siouxsie and the Banshees, J Geils Band .....
OH yeah, the violent femmes. I forgot about them.
I recall an older co-worker of mine, back in the late nineties, had a paperback that had all of the RS record reviews, from it’s inception, to the early eighties, when it was published.
I was astounded by how hard they came down on Zep, Sabbath, Purple, Rush…one album after another.
Another reason Creem magazine mattered…
Toto is deserving, based not just on their own body of work, but for the countless Grammy award winning recordings they contributed to throughout the 80s and early 90s. They were literally everywhere.
Steve Lukather deserves his own museum!
For sure and they're still grinding it out on the road today.
Musical Excellence would be a better fit since as you said: Contributed to a lot of records by famous artists back in the 80's & 90's.
@@Lionize728 And getting better with age, IMO
@@jwprimetime9795 Amen to that!
You know RRHOF is back-asswards when Dolly Parton said she didn’t feel she’d earned her spot, because she didn’t play any Rock - So, she made her” 1st ever Rock album to feel worthy of being an inductee.” Much respect 🫡 for Dolly!
She's a nice lady, but it still doesn't make her qualified to be in the HOF
@@carolwood9446 And, to her credit, she knows it. She declined it openly, then grudgingly accepted to be polite I guess.
I think Dolly Parton understandably had issues with the RRHOF due to them forever ignoring county music because "it has its own hall of fame," and didn't want to be in. She probably decided it would bring less attention if she accepted.
Dolly Parton is one of the greatest humans to ever live. /mic drop
Rock Hall has made an effort to cover everything that influenced the genre of "Rock & Roll" which is a culmination of different genres, so I personally don't mind artists who aren't necessarily considered "Rock."
However, Chaka Khan, sorry. I do think the Rock Hall has just become the major labels mainstream rock Hall of Fame.
It's almost like the museum fel into the same problem the genre made come the 70s which spawned punk rock. Rock groups became lame, or super glam, and it was all from major labels. Then this whole scene came out which spawned into a tree that is rock today.
"Classic" rock doesn't inspire anything today. Punk spawned emo, hardcore, indie, even today's metal is kinda more inspired from punk than say 80s metal. And there's a million sub genres as well.
Fast forward to this year, Fat Mike opens the Punk Rock Museum, and they get it. The include a real history of music from the 70s to now. There's bands many don't think of "punk" but totally are in context, and that museum covers those bands even if those bands didn't want to "be in it."
Look at the Rock Hall as less a hall of fame and more a mainstream circle jerk much like how Grammys were. (Grammys are dead ever since Kanye peed on his trophy).
Rock Hall was a great idea, but has just been taken over by the old major label gatekeepers. Fat Mike's museum for Punk Rock, however, is one for the people, and he even said, they are going to expand and cover bands who aren't considered punk. But that's because people don't know, punk rock has inspired the past 50 years of rock and roll that wasn't mainstream record label bull crap. And that is the plain and honest truth.
Absolutely right! The Hall is more about the controlling few people and who they think are "cool" and nothing to do the actual music business. Thanks for taking a stand
Jan and Dean, The Monkees Blue Cheer, Golden Earring, Blue Oyster Cult, Robin Trower, Jane’s Addiction Bad Company, Free, Kansas, Fanny, The Baby’s, Big Star, The dbs, The feelies, Sonic Youth and Iron Maiden and Steppenwolf!
How could they leave out Blue Cheer! And Steppenwolf.
Kansas' resume for the HHHOF - 14 singles in the Billboard 100 including 7 singles in the top 40. 4 Gold albums, 4 Platinum albums including the 4x Platinum "Leftoverture" and 4x Platinum "Point of Know Return", the Platinum "Two for the Show" double live album and Platinum album "Monolith". As a testament to their longevity, Kansas' 2016 studio album "The Prelude Implicit" reached 41 on Billboard.
Toto is not only a Major Snub, they deserve an exhibit for their extensive catalog of hits they played on in the studio for others. An unreal disrespect to a band of rock originals
Can't argue with Toto. They survived through thick and thin with several personnel changes. Their whole catalog sounds good to me. These guys are/were excellent musicians.
I think what hurts Toto in the discussion is that too many rock “ purists “ hold it against them that before they became a band, they were individually outstanding studio musicians for others. I don’t think that should exclude them at all.
Before they were Studio Musicians they were in a Band called RURAL STILL LIFE in Los Angeles and they were so good Sonny and Cher used Jeff Porcaro and David Paich was a Piano prodigy and were then First Call Session Players. Jeff then Joined Steely Dan and David started writing tines with Boz Scaggs for "Silk Degrees" and the rest is History.
Kansas, Boston, Asia, Barry Manilow, Michael Stanley (Solo and as his band), Huey Lewis And The News, Bad Company, The Cult, Styx, Little River Band, Stone Temple Pilots, The Monkees, Melissa Manchester, Christopher Cross, Meat Loaf, Foghat, and Air Supply. By the way, Foreigner is now in.
I agree 💯 with you....also, Triumph, Styx, guess who, etc. Should be in there as well
1974's Bad Company is in my top albums of all time, along with Boston's self titled debut. Those two albums are OUTSTANDING
The biggest problem with the rock n roll hall of fame is Jan Wenner. If he doesn't like you, he will do whatever he has to to block your admission. He personally blocked RUSH for 13 years before they opened up voting to the public. RUSH was so overwhelmingly voted for that even he couldn't block them any longer. Thats only one example of his outsized influence, but there are many more. In his view only blues based rock is the real thing. Progressive rock or heavy metal will never count in his book.
You are 100% correct. He’s a menace.
The snubbing of Rush was unforgivable. Don't even get me started on Black Sabbath. They should have been inducted the year after Led Zep went in.
Wenner is basically judging these bands based on politics. It’s like corrupt government scandals.
Nailed it
Jann Wenner is literally the reason Warren Zevon isn't in the H.O.F. Wenner dislikes Zevon - only God knows why.
I think my #1 is right behind you: Jethro Tull. After the Beatles my favorite music growing up was Prog, and after burning out on Yes I embraced Jethro Tull. They had it all: great musicians, fantastic music, powerful lyrics, and a surprisingly heavy repertoire of songs led by a flute playing singer. I totally agree with your assessment that Boston should be in there on their debut alone. Not only was that the greatest rock debut of all time, it was one of the greatest albums of all time! And the rest of the catalog isn’t too shabby either. Finally I come to my right product at right time favorite: Foreigner. I was just entering my teens in ‘78, getting out and seeing more of the world while delivering newspapers with my portable radio and earpiece. The first band that I became a huge fan of was Foreigner and Double Vision was the first album I ever bought. Yeah they were great and should be in there too. Quickly rounding out my top 5 I’d include Bad Company AND Paul Rodgers together, and throw Styx in there too. Originally the knock on Styx was no hits early on and the early albums lacked consistency. But nobody can argue with this run of records: Crystal Ball, The Grand Illusion, Pieces of Eight, Cornerstone, and Paradise Theater!
Love that you stick up for DMB!!!
So glad you mentioned INXS. Such a great, underrated band.
Michael Hutchence was a GOD.
Wow. We only shared one. Foreigner. My others: Steppenwolf, Grand Funk Railroad, Three Dog Night, and The Guess Who. I still enjoyed the video. You do a great job, man. Your love for the music shines through on each video.
Like yours better!
Also MIA: Paul Revere & The Raiders, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, The Greg Kihn Band and Southside Johnny & The Asbury Jukes
The omission of the Guess Who is a travesty! One of the best bands of the late 60s early 70s! Also Rick Derringer should be in for the McCoys, playing and producing Johnny and Edgar Winter, session guitarist on Steely dan and countless others, producing Weird Al , plus many other great moments in rock and roll history, plus and incredible guitarist to this day!
Jethro Tull should certainly be in the hall they have had billboard #1 albums and are one of the most influential bands of their genre.
Wait tull next year!
I think JT is already in. ???
Tull is not listed on the R&R inductees website@@tonybrown3172
Unique sound with Ian Anderson playing a flute. I'm with you.
JT eligible since 1992: are you sure that JT and Ian Anderson are not already inducted?
Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Styx and Bad Company!!!
Styx…just wow.
Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Jethro Tull and Styx are definitely deserving on the body of work they produced over the years. Richie Blackmore (Deep Purple) & Ronnie James Dio (solo & other bands) in Rainbow very deserving artists in their own right as is the amazing vocalist Paul Rodgers from Bad Company & Free. imo
The Scorpions and Motley Crue
Well, I agree with the bands you mention along with the honorable mentions, plus a number that others already stated. As for a couple not mentioned I'd add Eric Carmen/Raspberries & Ian Hunter/Mott the Hoople, two bands that I've listened to from start & still enjoy their music. I think it would be fitting to get Eric & Raspberries in with his passing away this week.💔
DEFINITLY!
I remember all of those bands and singers. This brings back a lot of memories!!!!!!!
1. Jethro Tull 2. King Crimson 3. Kansas 4. The Smiths 5. Grand Funk Railroad
Jethro Tull, Guess Who, SuperTramp, Kansas, Foghat .... Styx, REO, Boston, BTO ...
Yes on foghat
Might not be a band like Maiden without Thin Lizzy. Their influence was tremendous. What Robertson and Gorham were playing at their age was mind-blowing. And Phil Lynott, he's just a legendary song writer/vocalist/bass player.
I am a huge Lizzy friend ! Good on you for being the first to mention them. Lizzy ! Scorpions and Maiden !
Boston , The Guess Who , Bad Company , Toto and Foreigner should be there. This channel should be there too. Best channel on UA-cam !
Styx, REO, Toto, Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult, Foreigner, Iron Maiden. Scorpions, Boston, King Crimson...and so many more...
Jim Croce is the first one that comes to mind for me. "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown," "Operator," "Time in a Bottle" "I Got a Name." He's more on the light folk rock side but definitely worthy of the HOF.
While I do agree that he was a great singer and composer, he is classified as being Folk not Rock.
@@rhondaflesher8313 He sucks.
@@rhondaflesher8313 Oh , I thought the discussion was around Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs not just rock. As Bob Dylan and Cat Stevens, and James Taylor are all deservedly in the HOF and are folk-rock artists. Just sharing that I believe Jim Croce has been looked over as HOF worthy.
@@ryancconnely wasn't meaning he isn't deserving - just that they might have used that as their excuse.
I agree Jim Croche should be in the Hall of Fame as well as Gordon Lightfoot.
The MOST snubbed inmy opinion are Jethro Tull. Number 1 albums, headline stadiums,extremely relevant for 15 years, unique, great songs,excellent musicianship and Ian Anderson for God's sake
Dick Dale, King of the surf guitar!
What’s more Rock ‘n Roll than starting an entire genre of rock guitar playing???
So many snubs it's hard to pick. Paul Rodgers is probably my number one. Some forgotten bands like Three Dog Night and the Grassroots. Johnny Rivers who also helped start the Monterey pop festival . Boston, Styx, Foreigner REO, just tons of snubs.
My #1 snub is Kansas! They’re celebrating their 50th year in the business and has been America’s best progressive rock band. Such fine music and incredibly talented musicians. But Rolling Stone magazine always disliked prog, and I think they have an undue influence on the choices for the Hall.
For RS prog doesn't contain enough coffee shop Greenwich Village talking points. Plus it has links to European classical and folk cultures.
And Kerry Livgren is more than deserving of a spot in the songwriters HoF!
Bachman Turner Overdrive, Styx, Blue Oyster Cult, Electric Light Orchestra, New Order, REO Speedwagen.
I'd never heard of The Smiths until I went to the UK in 1986 to see my cousins and their songs spoke to me. I came back home and months later the band came to town on tour and none of my friends would go so I went to the concert on my own. A great band IMO and deserving of the HoF.