How the Nets wasted a prime championship opportunity, then fell apart and left the state | Collapse

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  • @kevinhorry4182
    @kevinhorry4182 4 роки тому +2389

    I swear everytime i watch a documentary about a 2000’s team, Mutombo is in that team 🤣

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 5 років тому +3352

    Moral of the story: Scal is so good that he dropped 17 on one of the best defensive teams ever while coming off the bench.

    • @mikevargas4343
      @mikevargas4343 5 років тому +486

      And the League MANDATED the Nets to never use him ever again to keep competitive balance...

    • @LibertarianGearhead
      @LibertarianGearhead 5 років тому +282

      Yeah you know a new NBA fan when they complain about the Warriors disrupting the balance, cause they've never seen Goat Scal play.

    • @AzureKite
      @AzureKite 5 років тому +142

      WHITE MAMBA

    • @Supermariohoops24
      @Supermariohoops24 5 років тому +49

      In an important playoff game that went 3 OTs. 🐐

    • @DUB_87
      @DUB_87 5 років тому +46

      The year is 2756 and people are still making Scalibrine is the greatest jokes and still commenting "First" and still making "I don't see John Cena" comments. What a future!

  • @bmcminn8838
    @bmcminn8838 4 роки тому +670

    Kidd in his prime with that Spurs team would've been insane

    • @vee1766
      @vee1766 4 роки тому +47

      They would probably not have drafted Tony Parker though.

    • @dayquano4218
      @dayquano4218 4 роки тому +7

      @@vee1766 so...

    • @MaliKali-po9su
      @MaliKali-po9su 3 роки тому +8

      @@vee1766 Even better

    • @HelloThere-lo3qi
      @HelloThere-lo3qi 3 роки тому +9

      @@vee1766 yea but they prob can win more rings

    • @YaKnowWhatIming
      @YaKnowWhatIming 3 роки тому +90

      @@vee1766 Tony Parker was already playing when Jason Kidd considered going to the Spurs.

  • @joeburreaux7806
    @joeburreaux7806 5 років тому +1535

    “Benchwarmer Brian Scalabrine” Don’t ever disrespect the GOAT like that

    • @marcbummbummbumm2421
      @marcbummbummbumm2421 4 роки тому +26

      Red and white! He is the toothpaste goat

    • @ninorenzoquinones6500
      @ninorenzoquinones6500 4 роки тому +9

      you should give stand-up comedy a try bro

    • @jlnavarrete5755
      @jlnavarrete5755 4 роки тому +11

      The Greatest GOAT of all time!!!
      The only person in history that can win the game even down 24 points with 24 seconds left!!!

    • @gettinmoney1203
      @gettinmoney1203 4 роки тому +12

      MANCHESTER UNITED F.C what does that have to do with anything unless someone deleted sumn

    • @henry7486
      @henry7486 4 роки тому +22

      Gettin Money He comments that in a lot of Basketball video’s comment sections, idk why he does it, but he does

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 5 років тому +1937

    It's the Nets. The fact that Jason Kidd led the NEW JERSEY NETS to back to back NBA Finals alone makes him a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    • @_camy_
      @_camy_ 5 років тому +107

      should have signed with the spurs. what a dummy lol. could have won at least 6-7 rings

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 5 років тому +333

      @@_camy_ yeah but look at all the flack Durant gets for leaving your team for the team your team couldn't beat.

    • @rgjmg070607
      @rgjmg070607 5 років тому +72

      Hell always be a Jersey legend and one of my personal favorites for that 💯 🐐 🙏🏽

    • @cdgates1
      @cdgates1 5 років тому +41

      Cameron Salehpour He had alot of power in New Jersey. Thats why he stayed

    • @rgjmg070607
      @rgjmg070607 5 років тому +105

      Cameron Salehpour nah , some of us old school guys have principles.. we don’t do the can’t beat em join em .. and he ended up earning a legit ring with the team that drafted him .. he did the right thing

  • @Seahawkfan1108
    @Seahawkfan1108 5 років тому +699

    3 things i learned watching this....
    *Kidd almost pulled off a Kevin Durant move during free agency*
    *Mutumbo was a Net?!*
    *Alonzo was also a Net?!*

    • @robertolebron2296
      @robertolebron2296 4 роки тому +4

      Seahawkfan1108 did he blew a 3-1 lead? Otherwise I would say not quite but it’s almost comparable

    • @marcel5469
      @marcel5469 4 роки тому +52

      @@robertolebron2296 no it's worse, you join the team that beat your ass in the finals and those spurs are winning 5 straight

    • @jman2050
      @jman2050 4 роки тому +18

      Nah, if anything the Spurs dodged a bullet because if they had signed Kidd they definitely weren’t keeping Tony Parker and that would have turned out really badly.

    • @Gaben420
      @Gaben420 4 роки тому +8

      jman2050 everyone forgets tony Parker was a key part of the Spurs

    • @ZACKSTACK1204
      @ZACKSTACK1204 4 роки тому +27

      DeryBRash yea but Kidd is better Than Tony though

  • @sandernista6499
    @sandernista6499 5 років тому +446

    Jason Kidd is low key underrated. His stats dont pop out at you, but his impact was greater than his numbers.

    • @MylotheZooLovingScientist
      @MylotheZooLovingScientist 5 років тому +67

      The fact that he turned himself into a knockdown three-point shooter in his 45th year in the league was pretty impressive too. He sank a few key shots in the Mavericks' championship run.

    • @timhoward5
      @timhoward5 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly! Same goes with Bill Russell

    • @FFx16459
      @FFx16459 4 роки тому +28

      @@MylotheZooLovingScientist 45 year in the league lol

    • @dontmindme5879
      @dontmindme5879 4 роки тому

      I always thought he was rated.....lol everyone I know knows how good he was

    • @hdtekstil
      @hdtekstil 4 роки тому +15

      @@dontmindme5879 Nah. Everyone talks about how LeBron dragged 07 Cavs to the NBA finals all the time but they don't talk about how J.Kidd dragged Nets to the finals TWICE

  • @LateDude96
    @LateDude96 5 років тому +281

    Vince Carter is still in the NBA. Think about that while watching this video.

    • @rogregg29445
      @rogregg29445 4 роки тому

      Right that’s insane

    • @Bsfnelz20
      @Bsfnelz20 3 роки тому

      I wish he was on these NJ TEAMS when they went to the finals

    • @tfromcali89
      @tfromcali89 3 роки тому +26

      Not anymore

    • @lonewolf2513
      @lonewolf2513 3 роки тому +14

      And he's retired 😭😭😭

    • @lonewolf2513
      @lonewolf2513 3 роки тому +8

      @Harry Engel the dunk contest and his murder in the olympics alone guarantees him for the hall of fame

  • @tsalv1993
    @tsalv1993 5 років тому +120

    Collapse is such an awesome series. Very interesting how teams with so much promise fall apart before even reaching their peak

  • @Hoosier3091
    @Hoosier3091 5 років тому +95

    The 2012-2014 Pacers teams would be a really good topic for this series. Went from battling with the Heat to eventually losing all 5 starters a few years later

    • @GreenBayPayton
      @GreenBayPayton Рік тому +4

      Wow they eventually did this 🤣

    • @dedwrite12
      @dedwrite12 Рік тому +1

      @@GreenBayPaytongon watch it rn lol

  • @TheWacoKidd44
    @TheWacoKidd44 5 років тому +857

    Buying a copy machine sounds like something out of semi pro

    • @Crucialmisfit
      @Crucialmisfit 5 років тому +41

      gkill24 sounds like the 2k19 prelude 😂😂😂

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas 5 років тому +3

      lmfao

    • @jefffanelli4380
      @jefffanelli4380 5 років тому +19

      They are after all one of the ABA teams from the merger

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas 5 років тому +12

      @@jefffanelli4380 flint tropics for the win

    • @pierlouis7325
      @pierlouis7325 5 років тому +1

      Lol mafia operation.lol

  • @ritvikdutta4824
    @ritvikdutta4824 5 років тому +516

    Man Kidd was awesome in his prime. Also, Kenyon Martin is super underrated.

    • @siircartiier
      @siircartiier 5 років тому +18

      Ritvik Dutta Jason Kidd is still human garbage

    • @lazym91
      @lazym91 5 років тому +23

      Kidd was such a diva, I wonder why nobody ever brings this up.

    • @loganneal4590
      @loganneal4590 5 років тому +11

      Jason Kidd is a trash human being. Also, how is Kenyon Martin super underrated ? I've never heard/seen anybody say that lol

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому

      mart and dikembe alwayw got hurt ...

    • @patbronske22
      @patbronske22 5 років тому +3

      Lazy M91 Kidd was such a scumbag

  • @maddybutyoutube
    @maddybutyoutube 5 років тому +347

    as a nets fan, i know im gonna suffer watch this, but i do it to support sb nation.

    • @ImSomebady
      @ImSomebady 5 років тому +19

      Future looks bright for nets fans tho; new GM knows what he's doing, D'lo is a sure star and plenty of your players have a high ceiling for the future years.

    • @healthyorange995
      @healthyorange995 5 років тому +11

      @KimJennie Well he's 23 and only improving. Also has great young teammates.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +3

      losing to the pistons up 3-2 in 2004 in a year where the t wolves got hurt la got hurt and was not together and the pacers were a total mess on offense under a new head coach being led by a nut job in ron artest will always haunt them..they choked and forever again became irrelevant...2002-2004 was the only time people cared about the nets and they wasted it...you would think adding vince carte to a core of jr kidd and rj as all stars would make them a contender but they werent

    • @lospollosfinger8079
      @lospollosfinger8079 5 років тому

      KimJennie nah he definitely a star if he keeps doin what he is rn he was always a good player

    • @iiambience1154
      @iiambience1154 5 років тому +3

      I know you must be happy asf now.

  • @TrillWillieTCG
    @TrillWillieTCG 5 років тому +27

    2003 nets were my favorite team as a kid and truly made me start loving basketball. That era was a great era of basketball

  • @ginndro9794
    @ginndro9794 5 років тому +227

    Them 04 Pistons was tuff 💪

    • @Balal8281
      @Balal8281 5 років тому +29

      ginn Dro straight up, really should have won 2-3 titles for sure. That close game 7 loss in San Antonio will always sting

    • @furioussherman7265
      @furioussherman7265 4 роки тому +17

      @Gjr Hatz Not quite. The Bad Boys teams were defined by detestable, ego-centric superstars like Isaiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer, and especially Dennis Rodman. The Goin' To Work Pistons had no superstars and no egos; guys like Chauncey Billups and Ben Wallace kept their heads down, their mouths shut, and simply worked on putting together a team that was greater than the sum of its parts, all of which gave them a lovable blue-collar persona.

    • @ernestboykin3rd706
      @ernestboykin3rd706 4 роки тому +6

      @@furioussherman7265 Sheed was a superstar bruh

    • @ryanhill5628
      @ryanhill5628 4 роки тому +5

      Pistons were tough '02-'08

    • @furioussherman7265
      @furioussherman7265 4 роки тому +6

      @@ernestboykin3rd706 These guys actually did a Collapse video on the Goin' To Work Pistons, and they agreed that there were no superstars in that team, just role players who meshed like cogs in a machine to become something greater than the sum of their parts.

  • @codemonkey7719
    @codemonkey7719 5 років тому +99

    Kidd was such a great superstar PG for that team. But once they lost Kenyon Martin - who I will always believe was the soul of those Nets teams - they were done. That was the one guy they needed to retain.

    • @JayBuccola
      @JayBuccola 5 років тому +3

      I hated signing Jefferson over him.

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 4 роки тому +2

      They should of kept both and amnesty there contract and find a better center who can make there free throw.

    • @terrytaylor9166
      @terrytaylor9166 4 роки тому +12

      Agreed. Kmart gave them a toughness. Once he was gone they were just a finesse team.

    • @Iamhungey
      @Iamhungey 3 місяці тому

      The injury issues would have ruined it sooner or later unfortunately.

  • @nathaniellevesque2782
    @nathaniellevesque2782 5 років тому +633

    6:53 sounds like we got a sneak peak at a future beef history video.

    • @fuckingyellow4125
      @fuckingyellow4125 5 років тому +13

      BEEEEEEEF

    • @SecretBaseSBN
      @SecretBaseSBN  5 років тому +76

      Maaaayybeeeee?
      Sorry, that might come off wrong. It's on our list of ideas for potential episodes, so literally: maybe?

    • @josephgarcia9120
      @josephgarcia9120 5 років тому +6

      @@SecretBaseSBN make it happen!!! Mo BEEF!!!!

    • @xdgaming70
      @xdgaming70 5 років тому +3

      Joseph Garcia beef. BEEEEEEF!

    • @drewrod7016
      @drewrod7016 5 років тому

      Survey says....

  • @JackDanger99
    @JackDanger99 5 років тому +162

    Here‘s some food for thought: Can we trace the Mavs‘ 2011 championship to Kidd‘s 2003 decision? Because I don‘t think he ever would have returned to the Mavs had he signed with the Spurs back then.

    • @stb55555
      @stb55555 5 років тому +16

      And you could make the argument that if the Mavs had not collapsed against the Warriors in '07 (video idea?) in a relatively weak west that year and after coming close to winning it all in 06, they may not have looked to sign him either.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 5 років тому +6

      If anything that Kidd ripple would affect a growing Tony Parker who Popp was showing some frustration at first and was willing to cut loose. But it worked out in the end as his amazing metric to attack the basket and improved court vision would help the Spurs in their own deep runs for the chip.

    • @sawyertuide7636
      @sawyertuide7636 4 роки тому +7

      This would mean that Tony Parker ends up in Seattle or Cleveland, and ends up pairing with Ray Allen or Lebron.

    • @hdtekstil
      @hdtekstil 4 роки тому +2

      @@stb55555 Well as long as Dirk was in his prime Cuban would've tried to win at all costs so maybe he'll still get Kidd to get 1 more ring. For sure he'll do it

    • @sawyertuide7636
      @sawyertuide7636 4 роки тому +2

      Probably not.
      The only reason why he went to Dallas was probably to ring chase. Because Dallas was going for that ring in 2011.
      I don’t see any other reason he’d return there after the Triple-J’s broke up. (Which Triple-J’s not breaking up is also a massive “what if” that could change the NBA in a different way)

  • @Ryandupont0896
    @Ryandupont0896 5 років тому +76

    9:06 "Their replacements were absolute ass"
    I just died

    • @omegakong6847
      @omegakong6847 4 роки тому +1

      Yo i ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 He said it so calmly too! Lmao

  • @nicholaskling2425
    @nicholaskling2425 5 років тому +37

    I love this series. Teams collapsing and draft busts have always fascinated me

  • @Iam3DHomer
    @Iam3DHomer 5 років тому +93

    As a Nets fan who loved this team, Mutombo was very bad on the team. His style of rebounding completely broke their fast break offense. I really think the actual mistake of team building was their fixation on replacing Jason Collins. The Nets didn't need a strong rebounding center. Their best offense came off of Collins boxing out so Kidd could get the rebound and kick off the fast break. They spent two off seasons in a row acquiring Clunky centers who did not mesh well with the team, and couldn't stay on the floor anyway. They were stuck looking toward the center dominated NBA of the past, instead of the high tempo offenses that the NBA was slowly moving toward.

    • @ace198
      @ace198 5 років тому +22

      really could've use Korver too.

    • @joeb588
      @joeb588 4 роки тому +1

      They were better off without Collins though. He was really not good at all. And he couldn’t play fast either.

    • @sdmurphy20
      @sdmurphy20 3 роки тому +3

      Mutumbo was a product of 80s and early 90s basketball. Things were starting to change when be joined the Nets

    • @VengeanceSinX
      @VengeanceSinX 2 роки тому

      They got a good center in 2008 but Carter hot injured and Kidd quit

    • @SmoothCriminal12
      @SmoothCriminal12 2 роки тому +3

      What would've also helped is potentially trying Kenyon Martin at center and running Van Horn at PF. Yes, Martin would be very undersized at the position, but so was Collins. That could've been big in certain situations.

  • @Timjblackley13
    @Timjblackley13 5 років тому +468

    SB Nation, I think you just found your next great show

  • @mikeyoungblood1642
    @mikeyoungblood1642 5 років тому +160

    As a Celtics fan, I HATED the Nets in the early to mid 2000s! But after they moved to Brooklyn and made the KG/Paul Pierce trade, I love the Nets!

    • @theOnyFUFU
      @theOnyFUFU 5 років тому +22

      ...cuz Danny Ainge robbed them of every asset they had! haha

    • @kingdevon2548
      @kingdevon2548 5 років тому +14

      And now they're starting to look like a team that could win a championship one day in the future if nothing bad happens tho.

    • @kal-el1827
      @kal-el1827 4 роки тому +8

      I'm sure you love they got Kyrie and Kevin Durant and a playoff ready bench now lol

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 4 роки тому +2

      The Celtics have too many rings. The Nets had nothing.

    • @pisswaer2473
      @pisswaer2473 3 роки тому +5

      @@kal-el1827 this aged well

  • @tonyasiema801
    @tonyasiema801 5 років тому +784

    The term “future all star Kyle Korver” is really weird

    • @Balal8281
      @Balal8281 5 років тому +27

      Tony why? It’s accurate

    • @deanjohnson3664
      @deanjohnson3664 5 років тому +48

      He made one all star team

    • @GreatValueBleach
      @GreatValueBleach 5 років тому +113

      Dean Johnson that’s one more all star team than you

    • @deanjohnson3664
      @deanjohnson3664 5 років тому +5

      @@GreatValueBleach ok and

    • @danerific46
      @danerific46 5 років тому +4

      @@deanjohnson3664 u dont play in the NBA ha I do

  • @gfunkin2
    @gfunkin2 5 років тому +11

    Ian Eagle and the Czar Mike Fratello were a top 5 duo on the commentary side during this era too. The rack attack!

    • @JayBuccola
      @JayBuccola 5 років тому +4

      Don't leave out field reporter Jim Spanarkle.

  • @ZeroCool2310
    @ZeroCool2310 5 років тому +79

    collapsed is a great series already, keep doing them!

  • @JosephBayot
    @JosephBayot 5 років тому +370

    Damn I miss these Nets. Whenever I hear Lucious Harris's name, I can't help but think of the PA guy at Continental going "LUUUUUUUcious Harris"

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 5 років тому +9

      The final farewell and credits of the NBA on NBC still make me bawl like a baby

    • @Josh-ez3mb
      @Josh-ez3mb 5 років тому +6

      I think the same thing for the old trash bulls center. Luuuuuuuuuuucc Longley!

    • @evaneasterling5562
      @evaneasterling5562 5 років тому +11

      Joseph Bayot I miss “It’s a V C 3

    • @darealpapajon
      @darealpapajon 5 років тому +5

      @@evaneasterling5562 also "Did you see VC!"

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +3

      kidd k mart rj kk jc lc scal anth j a will b a d marsh ...those nets had heart

  • @jflopezfernandez
    @jflopezfernandez 5 років тому +23

    TOSSED UP A BAGEL
    what an amazing phrase

  • @angthebassplaya214
    @angthebassplaya214 5 років тому +7

    This new series is incredible, keep doing these forever! There’s gotta be a lot of material out there in sports history to keep this going for a long time.

  • @khalilwilliams3176
    @khalilwilliams3176 3 роки тому +10

    As a New Jersey man, this hits Home

    • @cooperwolfe5478
      @cooperwolfe5478 3 роки тому +1

      If you don’t mind me asking when the Nets were in New Jersey were they more popular than the Devils? I always assumed because they won three Stanley Cups that the Devils were the much more popular team, but then again I’m not from New Jersey so I wouldn’t know.

    • @PJH-vd7ve
      @PJH-vd7ve Рік тому +2

      @@cooperwolfe5478 Nope. The Devils were always the main team in New Jersey. The Nets were good at the same time that the Devils were good which really sucked for the Nets because they couldn't break through as a popular team.
      The Nets in general were always the second team in New Jersey behind the Knicks and now they're the second team in Brooklyn behinds the Knicks despite their success in NJ and now. They're just not likeable for some reason even though I and some other fans have always rooted for them.

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful 5 років тому +97

    Game 6 of the WCF, Lakers vs Kings. *Lest we never forget.*

    • @chronomenter
      @chronomenter 5 років тому +4

      They should do one on the kings

    • @piedpiped3267
      @piedpiped3267 5 років тому +5

      I’m a lakers fan and I still think that was bullshit

    • @atom0824
      @atom0824 5 років тому +3

      there's so many videos about this. Just type it on youtube and you'll see thousands on this game

    • @lazym91
      @lazym91 5 років тому +2

      Lakers won fair & square

    • @theOnyFUFU
      @theOnyFUFU 5 років тому +2

      I think SB nation already has a video on this and how the refs messed with that series.

  • @KOCChristian
    @KOCChristian 5 років тому +75

    Scal was fined for his playoff 5 min 17 points god performance

  • @coreykaunfer6167
    @coreykaunfer6167 5 років тому +5

    As a life long Nets fan, I appreciate any video about the 2000s Nets so thank you for making this great video!

  • @SaadJ15
    @SaadJ15 5 років тому +65

    If Vince gets to the Nets in 04 with Kenyon & Zo stays, they get to the finals until 07. Vince got traded from one dysfunctional franchise to another. A lot of people don’t realize he carried that Nets team to the playoffs 3 years in a row with an aging Kidd and injury riddled roster and no big man.

    • @marvinallen7117
      @marvinallen7117 5 років тому

      That's a fact

    • @JayBuccola
      @JayBuccola 5 років тому

      Aging Kidd? Maybe if Carter could hit a playoff game winner he would have a title back then.

    • @osanilevich
      @osanilevich 4 роки тому

      Didn’t he get traded for zo though?

    • @fuckthechinesevirus9462
      @fuckthechinesevirus9462 4 роки тому

      They definitely could have used him for the 03 Finals

    • @sawyertuide7636
      @sawyertuide7636 4 роки тому

      Zo got traded for Carter.
      Although a lineup of Kidd-Jefferson-Carter-Kenyon? They would lose in 5 or 6 games again to the Spurs, tho, and go on a rapid spiral that results in a long 6-7 year minimum rebuild.
      The trade never happens here because Prokhorov would’ve bought the team in 04’, and would’ve already had his championship. Or maybe he’s going for more, and it does happen.

  • @c84r
    @c84r 7 місяців тому +2

    I am a Brooklyn Nets fan and NY Jets fan. It is hard. So much disappointment. I did enjoy the NJ Nets run with Jason Kidd. Kidd took the Nets to the playoffs every year.

  • @loryder7112
    @loryder7112 5 років тому +28

    As someone who grew up a New Jersey Nets fan this just hurts

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 4 роки тому

      Agreed bro

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 4 роки тому

      Y'all got Kyrie and KD at least

    • @Maxmillianr1
      @Maxmillianr1 4 роки тому +1

      @@geordiejones5618 No Brooklyn has KD and Kyrie. We don't support them anymore

  • @jakeh_13
    @jakeh_13 5 років тому +1197

    Do the 2010 Jets fresh off of 2 afc championship that team fell apart
    Edit: Damn 321 likes thanks y’all
    Edit:2 Thanks for 1k likes this the most i have ever had

  • @kash4181
    @kash4181 3 роки тому +5

    Vince is a legend. I think he makes it to the HOF. Greatest dunker of all time. He's played in 4 decades. 90's, 00's, 10's, and 20's. Just insane to think about. He's been in every role possible from rising young star, all star, superstar, contributing starter, key bench player, deep depth player, to end of bench mentor. Wish he could've gotten a ring but respect that he chose to go to teams that would give minutes so he can actually play. That experience makes him a great analyst now because he's been there and understands all roles plus had actually played with a lot of the old legends and young guys.

  • @delioluna8572
    @delioluna8572 5 років тому +6

    Man... you brought back some good (?) memories. I love your videos. Keep up the good work. You failed to mention the whole Kidd migraine ordeal and how great VC was once his 1st yr with the Nets. He averaged like 27 for the Nets.

  • @allisknu11
    @allisknu11 5 років тому +31

    That Nets team with Carter and Kidd winning the championship would have been the highlight of my childhood.

  • @chrismerryman591
    @chrismerryman591 5 років тому +151

    I love this series so much!
    2005 Astros?

    • @mikemartinez7796
      @mikemartinez7796 5 років тому +4

      I would love if they did the astros it would be great

    • @michaelstein7510
      @michaelstein7510 5 років тому +15

      Yeah, that 2004-05 Astros team was so much fun. It had guys like Berkman, Oswalt, Beltran, and Everett in their primes, along with the end of Biggio, Bagwell, and Ausmus in their primes.
      I thought they were a bit unlucky to be swept by the White Sox in the 2005 WS. Every game was within reach for the Astros, just couldn’t find a way to win.

    • @Jase_Gamez
      @Jase_Gamez 5 років тому +2

      How is it a collapse? They won the World Series. Collapse has to be a great team who have fallen and haven’t recovered

    • @theevermind
      @theevermind 5 років тому +11

      Did you miss their three straight worst-in-the-world seasons? They fell all the way to the bottom.

    • @chrismerryman591
      @chrismerryman591 5 років тому +4

      @@Jase_Gamez I mean the won the world series in 2017, 12 years later. Directly after that first appearance they set records for worst teams in MLB history.

  • @scoliosisqueen
    @scoliosisqueen 5 років тому +10

    I spent many weeknights of 2004-2009 at the continental so this hurts 💔

  • @Thine_Reaper
    @Thine_Reaper 5 років тому +44

    Why you gotta diss the GOAT like that. Scalabrine is anything but a bench warmer.

    • @michaeljaradeh6213
      @michaeljaradeh6213 5 років тому +9

      They had to keep him on the bench to avoid having to give him his well-deserved ultra max contract.

    • @Cuzjudd
      @Cuzjudd 4 роки тому +2

      White Mamba

    • @mallen1743
      @mallen1743 4 роки тому

      Why can’t Black Mamba Kobe Bryant just be held at the status as the GOAT alone without Less Than Larry Bird Scal...only in America smh

  • @Pwntage
    @Pwntage 5 років тому +5

    Nets fan here, everybody keeps forgetting that Kenyon Martin was the Net's best player after Kidd during the Finals against the Spurs but got sick. They were tied 2-2 heading back to New Jersey when Kenyon Martin got the flu. The NJ Nets then went on to lose the last two games of the Finals with Kenyon Martin playing sick. I believed the Nets had a good shot at winning the Finals or at least getting to a game 7 had Kmart stayed healthy.

  • @Pranaynaynay
    @Pranaynaynay 5 років тому +14

    I remember these teams so much. I used to love the team before they moved to Brooklyn and then I lost total interest in NBA tbh. I really miss them but I'm glad RJ got a ring eventually with the Cavs, he was my favorite player. Also could you imagine Carter if he was on those 03/04 teams? With Kenyon and Kittles

  • @kidsandheroes01
    @kidsandheroes01 5 років тому +158

    Do 2002 Mariners, from 116 wins to failing to make the playoffs for 17+ years

  • @dewymessiah_8355
    @dewymessiah_8355 5 років тому +58

    As a native from New Jersey this one hurt a lil....Okay a lot lol great episode
    Could you do a ep on the big 3 Miami heat era ?

  • @captainjaber5610
    @captainjaber5610 5 років тому +3

    It was a disastrous story for a team that had so much potential; ultimately, cutting costs hurt them dramatically and have not been able to truly recover since 2003.

  • @christopherdonaldson7484
    @christopherdonaldson7484 7 місяців тому +1

    13:00 that was when the Nets to start the 2007-08 season moved to a new arena (temporary) eleven miles south of the Meadowlands, affectionately known as "The Rock" in Newark - Prudential Center

  • @asterisk911
    @asterisk911 5 років тому +3

    You did a very good job on this, both on the analytical side and on the technical side.

  • @lonelychameleon3595
    @lonelychameleon3595 5 років тому +18

    The Nets of the 2000s were in that awkward era of the East between the end of Michael Jordan and the beginning of LeBron James. Too bad they couldn’t win at least one series.

    • @americangiant1003
      @americangiant1003 5 років тому +1

      Thus that early 2000's era (i.e '02-'06)of the NBA is a great example of why commentators and fans such as myself some support having "intra-conference" Finals. Perfect example would be in 2002 with the Kings and Lakers. I hope in near future that they consider this proposal? The NBA goes to seeding beginning with the Conference Finals and rename them the Final 4. If that means an all East or all West Championship Finals, so be it. Imagine in 2018, how great would a Houston/Golden State NBA Finals would have been instead of Lebron carrying on his back at best a so-so Cavs team in an otherwise weak NBA East that season? While the first 2 rounds of the playoffs **would still be the same format that been in effect for a while now, i.e Intra-Conference games only within the East and West Division.
      Back to this topic. In those 2 back-back finals appearance the then NJ Nets had no chance against the Spurs and Lakers. The then Jersey team were very lucky to win 2 games in '03. With that said moving up about 15 years later in 2019, I think it might be time for Prokhorov to consider selling the now Brooklyn Nets as well. Might be only chance for the Nets to become a strong contender again.

  • @allisknu11
    @allisknu11 5 років тому +15

    Moral of the Story: It only takes one injury or ailment to derail a team that looked to be the next champions.

  • @siriush100
    @siriush100 5 років тому +10

    Some of the best memories from my childhood. RIP New Jersey Nets.

  • @andrescaiced4695
    @andrescaiced4695 5 років тому +18

    Jason Kidd.. Richard Jefferson and VC...was dynacmic to watch

  • @jaymonee317
    @jaymonee317 5 років тому +5

    Great vid. Jason Kidd was under appreciated for years. Steve Nash got the praise and MVP's while Kidd had a better overall game and actually lead his teams to the finals with less talent which Nash never did.

    • @jaymonee317
      @jaymonee317 5 років тому +2

      Him playing in a tougher conference doesn't take away from him playing with way more talent than Kidd and achieving less. Spurs and Suns were running the west in Nash's MVP reign. D'antoni didn't believe in Defense

    • @jaymonee317
      @jaymonee317 5 років тому +1

      What are u talking about bro J kidd was dragging a young Kenyan Martin and scrubs to the finals. Nash had Amare...Johnson... prime Shawn Marion...prime barbosa, a few other really good players. You're really trying to say Nash didn't have way more talent built around him than Kidd? C'mon son

    • @jaymonee317
      @jaymonee317 5 років тому

      Yes Nash played in a tougher conference. The suns were also winning 60+ games in that conference. Just couldn't deliver at the end. At the End of the day....J Kidd won more with less

    • @jaymonee317
      @jaymonee317 5 років тому

      Agreed. Respect your knowledge ✊🏾✊🏾💪🏾

    • @wesleyantrim6648
      @wesleyantrim6648 5 років тому

      The Nets wouldn’t have made it past the second round in the West back then. They would’ve been a 5th seed (at best) behind LA, San Antonio, Phoenix, and Dallas.

  • @KofieWhy
    @KofieWhy 5 років тому +159

    WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS

  • @user-fr6qn9xl9e
    @user-fr6qn9xl9e 5 років тому +23

    2:17 Jackie Moon once traded his washing machine away for a staring PG, Ed Monix.

  • @goldenstatewarriors9418
    @goldenstatewarriors9418 Рік тому +7

    We need a collapse video of the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets. Might be the biggest disappointment in NBA History. That team looked unstoppable and never got a chance to go for it all.

  • @DIDDYKONG916
    @DIDDYKONG916 Рік тому +2

    It's so hard today to think back and remember they were the New Jersey Nets at one time. I only think of them as the Brooklyn Nets ever never as once New Jersey anymore. Thanks for the reminder.

    • @naswii4360
      @naswii4360 Рік тому +1

      See, I’m the opposite. I’ve only ever seen them as the New Jersey Nets since that’s what they were when I started watching sports. Weird to think they moved 10 years ago

  • @griffinhays2053
    @griffinhays2053 2 роки тому +6

    Here we are in 2022 just waiting for this KD and Kyrie stuff to go up in flames setting the stage for the sequel Collapse

    • @naswii4360
      @naswii4360 Рік тому +1

      Well Kyrie is now in Dallas, maybe we’re getting closer

    • @blackberyy3450
      @blackberyy3450 Рік тому +1

      @@naswii4360 it has already come full circle

  • @123thenerfsniper
    @123thenerfsniper 5 років тому +14

    You guys should do a video on the “Go to Work” Pistons, one of the must unexpected finals upsets on one of the best teams in NBA history

    • @LcInfantrySr
      @LcInfantrySr 2 роки тому

      Nah Detroit’s a dump no one cares. you’re trash and you’re poor

  • @litodat233
    @litodat233 3 роки тому +5

    I wish they would’ve stayed in jersey we built a new arena for them in Newark and still couldn’t keep em

    • @cooperwolfe5478
      @cooperwolfe5478 3 роки тому +1

      I don’t know. It’s one of those relocations that worked out for both sides. I know that people from New Jersey are upset that the Nets left, but at least you still got to keep the Devils, and at least you’re not Oakland, they lost the Warriors and Raiders to San Francisco and Las Vegas, and are going to lose the A’s soon.

  • @kayleighlehrman9566
    @kayleighlehrman9566 5 років тому +16

    Depending on how they wanna push this series (season/decade long collapses versus season/game long collapses) I think there's a certain Superbowl 51 that could use a collapse examination

    • @Yahye481
      @Yahye481 5 років тому +2

      Kayleigh Lehrman Haven’t us Falcons fans suffered enough 🥺

    • @LauraX186
      @LauraX186 5 років тому

      Yahye Abdi not yet, no

    • @sawyertuide7636
      @sawyertuide7636 4 роки тому

      Rewinder episode.
      Although if SB nation is still a thing on YT in 5-8 years we could see one.
      Considering the way things have gone since then for the Falcons.

  • @chyeali6274
    @chyeali6274 5 років тому +1

    I respect this video alot. As someone who grew up in New Jersey all my life, Jason Kidd single-handedly took the Nets to the finals twice. Against the Spurs, it was like no one was even paying attention what Kidd and the Nets were doing. One of the greatest PGs of all time

    • @jknumber5138
      @jknumber5138 5 років тому

      ChyeAli He's the man. Mr Whiz Kidd was magic on the court

  • @billybaugus1249
    @billybaugus1249 2 роки тому +5

    As a charlotte hornets fan i always loved seeing Mourning play. I can only imagine if he and LJ had gotten along and of course Larry hadn't hurt his back

  • @trvspvrk
    @trvspvrk 5 років тому +14

    I miss my New Jersey Nets

    • @guillermomclean8657
      @guillermomclean8657 4 роки тому +4

      You will never get them back Brooklyn forever 🖤🗽🍾💯😂

    • @pupusalandia7079
      @pupusalandia7079 4 роки тому

      @@guillermomclean8657 😭 stop it's like if the Mets moved to another state

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 Рік тому

      ​@@guillermomclean8657 You guys had Kyrie and KD and still fumbled the bag

  • @bradwilles5152
    @bradwilles5152 5 років тому +11

    Do the 94 blue jays, 2 championships and young core with one of the best pitchers ever added in 96, only to miss the playoffs for the next 21 years

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 2 роки тому +8

    Imagine Jason Kidd prime in San Antonio Spurs is INSANE

    • @cactusjack2264
      @cactusjack2264 2 роки тому +1

      They didn’t need him, they had a PG who was just as good, Tony Parker.

    • @Kirbystare1992
      @Kirbystare1992 2 роки тому

      @@cactusjack2264 stop it put Tony Parker on the nets are they making the finals?

  • @Ace21playr
    @Ace21playr 4 роки тому +2

    That Nets team was so fun to watch. Kidd made full court passes and lobs to Kenyon who dunked everything. Team speed was great they pushed the ball every chance they got.This was prime Jason Kidd years

  • @Andrew-ly6yf
    @Andrew-ly6yf 5 років тому +2

    That pistons starting lineup was one of the most complete ever. Elite defender at center, PF that can stretch the floor, one of the best wing defenders at SF, an all around scorer at SG, and a pure/clutch shooter at PG.

  • @DEEDUBZ
    @DEEDUBZ 5 років тому +17

    I personally miss the New Jersey Nets. Although Brooklyn is right on the border of New Jersey, it's still in New York and the state of New Jersey deserves their OWN team.

    • @TheRoadTripChannel
      @TheRoadTripChannel 8 місяців тому

      Do the Giants, Jets and Red Bulls count as New Jersey teams??? LOL. 😀

  • @marcsiswanto
    @marcsiswanto Рік тому +9

    Time to make part 2. From the Garnett Pierce Deron superteam to KD Kyrie Harden era 😄

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 5 років тому +34

    I thought those Nets could win an NBA title. What a missed opportunity that was.

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 3 роки тому +1

      Yes he could build a team but was cheap and wasted every one prime they could've 2 chips easily.

    • @justthisguy1948
      @justthisguy1948 3 роки тому +1

      How was it missed opportunity they went against juggernauts

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 3 роки тому

      @@justthisguy1948 Well, you're not facing dregs in The Finals. You're gonna have to beat someone great when you get there. The window stays open for only so long, so you have to strike while the iron's hot.

    • @justthisguy1948
      @justthisguy1948 3 роки тому

      @@marcus813 to beat that laker or spur team is asking too much the nets definitely reached their potential and I don’t think should be looked at like a missed opportunity

    • @chosen1one67
      @chosen1one67 3 роки тому +1

      💯

  • @carryspice1798
    @carryspice1798 5 років тому +1

    I love these videos its like a walk down memory lane

  • @davonberr4747
    @davonberr4747 5 років тому

    thanks for bringing up my adolescent heartbreak, SB nation

  • @itstaemonson
    @itstaemonson 5 років тому +43

    "My kidney, my kidney"

  • @NachinHer
    @NachinHer 5 років тому +35

    Would be cool to see the Oakland Raiders collapse after their last SB appearance

    • @heyheyodelay
      @heyheyodelay 5 років тому +9

      Seconded. As trash as the Bucs became after their SB win, I would argue the Raiders got worse.

  • @johnturner7952
    @johnturner7952 Рік тому +11

    Who’s here after the Nets traded away Kevin Durant & Kyrie Irving?

  • @DutchVanDerLinde-sx1ox
    @DutchVanDerLinde-sx1ox 2 роки тому +2

    I'll always love Jason Kidd for helping my team (And Dirk) get their championship they so deserved. A lot of teams blow through players. But one thing I love about the Mavs is their loyalty to their top players

  • @lloyd3879
    @lloyd3879 5 років тому +15

    in 2019 the Nets acquired Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant :)

  • @BlackFlagsMatter
    @BlackFlagsMatter 5 років тому +66

    Do the 2001 St.Louis Rams coming off a loss to the Pats.

    • @Sportsguy20121
      @Sportsguy20121 5 років тому +5

      No... Don't do this to me, please. (Side note: That would actually make a really good video)

    • @drewdown2359
      @drewdown2359 5 років тому

      Black Flags Matter I mean that’s tough to do at least they won a championship

    • @mjf2891
      @mjf2891 5 років тому +2

      Andrew Barrera you realize the first video in this series is about a Bucs team that won the title then fell apart?

    • @passivedre
      @passivedre 3 роки тому

      Glad seeing you here

  • @yahyarajaee5883
    @yahyarajaee5883 4 роки тому +2

    I recommend to watch this and the Sacramento Kings’ Collapse episode back to back. There are so many pieces linked to one another.

  • @logalogalog
    @logalogalog 5 років тому +29

    This series was custom made for the 1985 Chicago Bears.

    • @logalogalog
      @logalogalog 4 роки тому

      @Matt Joseph the players will be quick to tell you so too. I have heard Steve McMichael, Otis Wilson and Jim McMahon all say that they left another two Lombardi trophies on the table.

  • @Josh-bn5kr
    @Josh-bn5kr 3 роки тому +2

    As a person who lives at new jersey this one hurts

  • @williamrosado2370
    @williamrosado2370 8 місяців тому +1

    As a Jersey native. All these millionaries in Jersey couldn’t put together a team to keep a major sports team in the state is sad.

  • @sserpxeadnap
    @sserpxeadnap 5 років тому +9

    47 wins and a 2 seed... must be nice to be an eastern conference fan

  • @tleoipl37
    @tleoipl37 5 років тому +129

    Do the San Francisco 49ers from 2011-present decline

    • @zeppelin01024
      @zeppelin01024 5 років тому +13

      TLE0622 IPL that can be traced to two moments: going with Kaepernick over Alex Smith in 2012 (despite the run) and firing Harbaugh

    • @tleoipl37
      @tleoipl37 5 років тому +19

      Ryan Schatzberg don’t forget that after 2014 almost 80 percent of the team from the sb left due retirement or trades

    • @Yahye481
      @Yahye481 5 років тому +4

      The league figured out Kaepernick and most of their team got old and retired plus they fired Harbaugh

    • @Thine_Reaper
      @Thine_Reaper 5 років тому +8

      If you go to UrinatingTree's chanel and look at the 49ers lolcow video he basically did this

    • @tleoipl37
      @tleoipl37 5 років тому +2

      Thine_Reaper true I did watch this a while ago but I feel they would do a more better job

  • @a1gamer561
    @a1gamer561 5 років тому +74

    Do one on the 1990 Bills

    • @jr.henneygodsmith4158
      @jr.henneygodsmith4158 5 років тому

      Bills?

    • @eclipse528
      @eclipse528 5 років тому +1

      @@jr.henneygodsmith4158 you know, the ones who lost 4 straight Super Bowls to start the 90s, and were never the same after that ?

    • @jr.henneygodsmith4158
      @jr.henneygodsmith4158 5 років тому

      @@eclipse528 Oooohhh, I taught he misspelled Bulls.

    • @justinheartman5984
      @justinheartman5984 5 років тому +2

      A1 Gamer they have a whole 30 for 30 episode fam.

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 5 років тому

      @@jr.henneygodsmith4158 the Bulls would be a good one.

  • @seoulting28
    @seoulting28 5 років тому

    0:25 No honorable mention of Keith Van Horn and his knee socks? He and Todd MacCulloch were how the Nets were able to acquire Dikembe Mutombo.

  • @DomClancy
    @DomClancy 5 років тому

    Give me anything voiced by Seth Rosenthal. His storytelling is top tier sports writing, and the best of the best that SBN has to offer. I'd seriously pay for this stuff.

  • @alexanderadonyae7937
    @alexanderadonyae7937 5 років тому +31

    2004 Pistons ended they run😂 yup Detroit did that💯 6 straight conference's after that

    • @splashbros-yc9lk
      @splashbros-yc9lk 5 років тому +2

      Lost every ecf after that what's so special bout them?

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 5 років тому +8

      @@splashbros-yc9lk first team in the east to win a championship in the 2000's😜 what did your team achieve? 😂 and to answer your question on that!! At least we made it there😂😂😂😂

    • @loveofmangos6112
      @loveofmangos6112 5 років тому

      You know how on snowy days people lay down and make a snow angel? Yeah, the Piston's have been doing that snow angel in a cesspool ever since LeBron sent them home in 2007.

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 4 роки тому

      @@loveofmangos6112 bruh lebron joined NBA champion already Dwayne Wade to learn how to win in Miami😂😂

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 4 роки тому +3

      Love of Mangos Actually the Pistons remain competive another year during the 2007-08 season but their contention status ended for good when the Big 3 era Celtics beated them in the 2008 ECF. The final nail on the coffin was Joe Dumars foolishly trading Chauncey Billups to the Denver Nuggets for Allen Iverson during the 2008-09 season.

  • @hankthomas3878
    @hankthomas3878 5 років тому +16

    This is a case of pretty desperate revisionist history. There was no path for the Nets to be a true contender. They were woefully bad when compared to any of the top 5-6 of the West in any given year. The fact that they struggled against Jim O'Brien's Celtics team regularly (A team that put up a billion 3s a game and really only had 1.5 guys [Pierce and Toine on a decent day] who could hit them with any sort of regularity) in the playoffs says more about the state of the Nets, and the East in general, than painting them as any sort of threat to what the Lakers, Kings, Jazz (early 00's), Spurs, Mavs, or Suns (mid 00's) had built.

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 5 років тому

      I agree. I don't see this team beating the Lakers the next year or Spurs after. This team had great defense but could not score. They didn't have not one great scorer. If they weren't on a fast break and had to play in the half court they would often struggle. The Pistons had players that could score like Rasheed, Hamilton and Chauncey.

    • @azma775
      @azma775 5 років тому

      Couldn’t of had put this any better my self

  • @georget6549
    @georget6549 5 років тому +53

    Rewind Greece's EURO 2004 win.

    • @idontwantone132
      @idontwantone132 5 років тому

      What's the story?

    • @Nomorehats
      @Nomorehats 5 років тому

      Only team to beat the us in the olympics. And they won't a euro chip. Very good team. Don't forget to mention Argentina and Spain around the same time.

    • @tg4655
      @tg4655 5 років тому

      Pass.

    • @Fthhtuu
      @Fthhtuu 5 років тому +2

      Giovanni Lamour he’s taking about soccer not bball

    • @thebigmackrel2725
      @thebigmackrel2725 5 років тому +1

      Keith complete underdogs won

  • @TheWildfire1239
    @TheWildfire1239 5 років тому +1

    man, i just love having james deen talk about sports

  • @LuiXiaoPing
    @LuiXiaoPing 5 років тому +1

    I love the way you tell your story’s... makes me remember the good times, when I was a NBA fan. 👍

  • @deadsomethingdoggo9643
    @deadsomethingdoggo9643 5 років тому +3

    “Thats a lot of copy machines” 😂😂😂😂😂 it made me laugh so hard hahahahaha

  • @nedwart
    @nedwart 5 років тому +42

    Do the 1994 Montreal Expos! That, or the 2011 Boston Red Sox

    • @MylotheZooLovingScientist
      @MylotheZooLovingScientist 5 років тому +4

      Damn, still scratching my head at those Sox, lol. What a September to remember.

    • @quickman1047
      @quickman1047 5 років тому

      Mylo the Zoo-loving Scientist That Sox loss combined with the Rays comeback was the greatest thing ever

    • @evaneasterling5562
      @evaneasterling5562 5 років тому +8

      Tristan Andrew I strongly believe the Expos are still in Montreal if that season gets played out.

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 5 років тому +3

      The Sox won it in 2013 and last year. They were fine after that.

    • @sawyertuide7636
      @sawyertuide7636 4 роки тому +1

      @@hennylo68 Yes.
      Collapse videos are for long term collapses. Not season collapses. Game 162, the apex of that 2011 Red Sox Collapse needs to be a rewinder.

  • @wyattcorbin1629
    @wyattcorbin1629 5 років тому +19

    Future All-Star Kyle Korver is a really misleading statement. Yes, he did make it, but as an injury replacement with some (comparatively pretty weak stats).

    • @moakrotrion
      @moakrotrion 5 років тому +3

      Seeing that hes one of the leading 3 point shooters of all time and still active??? Uhhh.... maybe not.

    • @mohammadqubbaj3600
      @mohammadqubbaj3600 4 роки тому

      @@moakrotrion di

  • @jayjones9225
    @jayjones9225 5 років тому

    Seth is great. Met him once at a Posting and Toasting (the Knicks SBNation site) game watching event at a bar in downtown Manhattan. Great video this was a good analysis of a strong team that fell short

  • @brendanc8344
    @brendanc8344 3 роки тому +1

    Hey hey, 2021 Nets here we come

    • @ro7032
      @ro7032 3 роки тому

      New York nets