Speaking of Kevin Conroy, The DC Animated Universe might’ve been the only expansive onscreen DC universe that Warner Bros hadn’t ruined in some capacity
Once again the problem with the Tomorrowverse was mostly WB's fault. Not only did they have to deal with the lack of budget that's been a problem in DC animation for more than 10 years, a bunch of new problems came up. The writers planned 20 movies for the Tomorrowverse, but WB ended up mandating only 10. And after WB merged with Discovery, more than half of WB's animation department was laid off.
If they had the 20 movie deal...really the only other ten that could be added would be Wonder Woman Flash GL/GA Teen Titans Doom Patrol Outsiders Hawkman/Atom JLA/JSA LoSH2 Vixen
I'd also add the writing. I could forgive the animation if the writing was impressive, but it wasn't. It was very bland. So mediocre. Even in this Crisis event when you'd think they'd pull out all the stops. It all just meh.
I don't know how to feel about them canonically killing every animated universe we grew up on. It feels like they were ripping a part of me away. Like they didn't even show the Teen Titans, just their tower.
I'd feel a lot better if it meant something. If we got to see them for more than a split second. Honestly, they should've had those versions be part of the main cast. Teen Titans interacting with Kevin Conroy's Batman, Batman: Brave and the Bold, etc. As many as they could. They could've gone out woth a bang instead of just kind of fizzling out. What a waste.
I mean, for all the liberties the movie took with the source material, that is essentially what happens to all but the lucky few universes who do merge into the prime universe at the end. I hope they at least do Infinite Crisis at some point though so we can see the characters from this movie again, I thought the movie did a good job in showing how in order to save the universe in some capacity, all of these characters had to sacrifice their consciousnesses and essentially die and be reborn. Not an easy decision at all.
Man, in the last five years, we really are witnessing a slow end of an era with DC as a whole. With the Arrowverses Crisis on Infinite Earths, the final season of Titans (in particular that one Beast Boy episode), Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, DCEU’s The Flash movie and now this (makes me wonder how Superman & Lois will end). Then James Gunn’s DCU is about to usher in a new era with movies, shows, animated material and video games. RIP to the DC Multimedia Multiverse 1952-2024
DC as a whole seems to be in a weird state. I haven't been hyped for anything DC since DC Rebirth. And animation wise, it's just hollow shell of what it was. And Gunn seems to think every single project needs to be a Superman: All Star or everything needs to be a some over the top super deep and complex deconstruction. We traded one Zack Snyder for another in Tom King since he's part of the writing group Gunn chose. This universe is gonna be a mess.
DC has a this fetish of killing fan favorite versions of the DC universe. It started with JL Dark Apokolypse war, then the arkham universe and now teen titans (don't really care about that one) and DCAU at least Kevin Conroy's last performance wasn't wasted as the batman he started with instead.
The DCAU that was erased WASN'T the version that we watched, since from what they said this multiverse was based on Darkseid NEVER being a threat, so since Darkseid was a threat it means that the E-12 we saw get destroyed was like E-12.4525 instead of the E-12 we watched.
@@1993digifan I actually wouldn't mind watching ALL of the Dcamu show episodes, but watching how things played out w/o Darkseid existing. Planet Apocalypse still existed, so maybe Granny Goodness took his place ?
On top of that, the fan favorites get killed in the most gruesome way possible. Martian Manhunter? Burned to death Aquaman? Ended up like Go/jo from JJK via Darkseid's omega beams Zatanna? Eaten alive Starfire? Also ended up like Go/jo Bumblebee? Impaled by debris Nightwing? Stabbed and resurrected as insane in the Lazarus pit. Beast Boy, Wally West and Jaime Reyes? Also killed with the rest of the titans All green lanterns are dead Did I missed anyone?
To think, the Tomorrowverse fizzled out faster that the DCAMU. DCAMU's 7 year run and 16 films, compared to this set's 4 years and 10 films. This wasn't even suppose to be an ending, but WB's plans change on a dime, so it is one now, maybe now the DC films can be overwhelmingly good again like we used to say for the past 17 years now. Kevin Conroy getting probably the best final line of his career, with the role he helped give a iconic voice too. We still miss you GOAT... only negative is that Joker doesn't sound ANYTHING like Mark Hamill's Joker then or now, did they use like... a scratch voice before putting the actual performance in it?
According to WB, that line was a stand-in for testing that they accidentally left in for the releases. They apparently fixed it and sent out new copies to people who bought the movie and the streaming services. (Though the UA-cam one still seems to have the bad copy on)
The biggest issue I had is they were so desperate they made anthology movies with no marketing and no budget. So dc threw anything at the wall and none of it stuck
This! I realized this with The Doom that came to Gotham....because wtf was that? And then the animated movies were released out of wack and without care. Doom that came was released on its day but warlord and the infinite movies were a mess. Part 1 and 2 academy out within 40 days of eachother and we had to wait 4-5 months for part 3 that was just a slap in the face and a waste of time
I didn't know about this because DC was busy marketing the suicide squad and Harley taking a dump in the Bat mobile more than this film concluding an animated universe
If the whole point of this was to mix it into one universe, then why not bring together the other animated universes before wiping them out. Let us see them in action one last time before wiping them out. Let us see Kevin Conroy Batman interacting with Batman: Brave and the Bold. This whole thing felt like a wasted opportunity. Now, they'll never get this chance again because Kevin Conroy is gone.
only thing this movie will be remembered for is Kevin's line, but man, we live in a timeline where two Batmen are gone, Adam West and Kevin Conroy, what a world
That's and DC basically telling it's fans your aren't getting any new stuff from the old animated series we made so stop asking already. Especially with 2003 teen titans
@@Magnet_Chaos I don't know. The cast of the Justice League animated series kept saying for years they wanted a full reunion movie, but WB weren't really listening to them or fans. It was nice to finally get Justice League Vs. The Fatal Five in 2019.
@@Magnet_Chaosyes but then they eventually ruin it as usual. Batman Harley Quinn film to DCAU. SS Kills the JL to Arkham-Verse. All the pointless cameos in Arrow’s COIE where older films and shows got dusted. Jason Todd in the Batman Adventures Continue comic from a while back to the DCAU. I’m not even going to list other companies but you get the point.
@@prosperotorres7965 Ok. Look. I'm not going to disagree that the screw things up But do people understand the point of Crisis in the first place? To destroy the Multiverse? So you have to show a multiverse being destroyed. And that's just and easy vehicles for cameos. And why does it matter if the older shows and movies got dusted in the Arrow Crisis if the Multiverse was reformed at the end of the crossover anyways?
I can't believe Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans was able to do a better job combining different animation styles and tones of the different universes than a Crisis trilogy.
@@AndrewChin-ck9uk the series as a whole sucks, but I enjoyed the movie and the Go vs Teen Titans wasn't bad. Just left a little to be desired. I was expecting more from the original team. The humor was just jarring and didn't mesh woth the tone of the original team.
It seemed a little targeted that we saw all those series get Anti-Mattered , but not My Adventures with Superman, like you said Teen Titans GO, nor the Harley Quinn show. To be fair, we also didn't see Batman the Brave and the Bold or The Batman. So only the series that informed our understanding for a lot of the DC Universe got erased. Luckily, there are enough inconsistencies to support your thesis that these are alternate versions of those series we grew up with. John Stewart doesn't even have his goatee but Hawkgirl is dressed in her JLU outfit? And the inside of the Watchtower from JLU looks like the inside of the JL Watchtower from Season 1 and 3? And Kevin's last line was so cold, I'm not even mad he has even less screen time here than he did in the CW Crisis. Because at least he went out being himself.
It couldnt have been our DCAU that got deleted in that cameo because of their own rules, Darkseid existed there, so like you said, it was DCAU adjacent, done for cameo and shock value.
Personally I can understand the Tomorrowverse being mid, if youre going to do Crisis youre not going to throw away a GOOD universe, so this one was a half baked one. I still think it was better than the DCAMU because it at least respected the heroes a little more than that travesty. The DCAMU was dripping with edge and pessimism especially its finisher movie. I say good riddance, let someone else cook.
That's not what they said, when baby Darkseid was killed the "Darkseid must exist/Darkseid was killed" paradox created a universe with Darkseid and one without. Darkseid will still exist just not in every universe.
That would surely be a travesty. You can't really do an animated movie with limited budget in the style of the great Alex Ross and doing it just as a generic animation would take away so much from it. I really don't want to see Kingdom Come ruined that way.
I have been saying the same thing for years, but considering how they have just completely screwed up a couple of really good storylines by changing things for I guess their own ego sake, I really would not want them to do that to kingdom come because that is a masterpiece.
Yeah supergirl was done sooo dirty, all she ever knew was loss. So when she went on suicide mission it was noble but to then completely nullify its affect within 10 min is awful writing
It's like longevity is dying. Dcau - 14 years Young Justice Universe - 10 years The Batman Universe - 4 years Dcamu - 10 years Tomorrow Universe - 5 years 😒
Honestly, many people dreamed of a crisis on infinite earths movie having different animation styles. Imagine the superfriends animation clashing with the dcau animation that'd be cool to see.
Closest we'll ever come is that still image from Batman: Brave and the Bold that had all the Batmen from different Batman shows teaming up. And I guess Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans a little. What a way to fizzle out. Such a wasted opportunity.
(Repost) They really should stop focusing on having a shared universe and instead have more stand-alones. Because that gives writers more freedom and not having to worry about pre existing cannon
You know the movie fails when only part anyone saw was a 30 second scene with Batman and Joker. I'm glad the Tomorrowverse is gone. The only movie(s) I liked was The Long Halloween.
You know what sucks about this movie version of Crisis; the Anti-Monitor. LITERALLY in the comics, Anti-Monitor is a being born of anti-energy and desire is the complete consumption of the positive reality and erase worlds... AND here, it's just an antibody because DARKSIED DIDN'T EXIST?! HUH?! HOW IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?! How sad the Arrowverse did their Anti-Monitor and even though it's dumb, we were expecting greatness from this. BUT NOPE! Even the Monitor feels pointless since his whole deal is "Maintain the multiverse" and "Deal with his evil counterpart/sibling". BUT NOPE. Worse part is how short the Tomorrowverse felt and we won't get Infinity Crisis. Just damn... what a disappointment. And at what cost?
@@greenth-mac2550 I know right? I was thinking "There's no way the DC Animation is working with DC itself with the whole Absolute Power to tie it back with it. NOW that would be retarded because it just makes Darksied more OP and this is exactly that. To think the "New 52" animation timeline cause this yarn of mistakes and nightmares to come out and end it with this. It's just sad to think the best Justice League movie is the Crisis of Two Worlds than expect something grander.
If the DC Gunn films do get a couple of animated projects that correlate with it, then we should dub Gunn's universe the DC Aligned Continuity Universe.
Small nitpick but a big thing that kept annoying me was Dick Greyson having Tim Drake's outfit and weapon. Like why does DC keep having other robins stealing Tim drip?
Maybe because Dick Grayson’s Robin costume was just a thong along with a shirt and some gloves. That would not look good on any DC animated show meant for kids. Another reason is that I think that the Tim Drake Robin Costume was sort of iconic back in the 90s and early 2000s.
@@samflood5631 Tim's suits have always been more iconic. If you want style...you ask him...afterall...he dates Amazons occasionally....he would know a thing or two...and you don't need to wonder about that boy.
The tomorrowverse is an interlude. It started with Flashpoint and ended with Apokalips war. Tomorrowverse was basically a result of the fallout. A shame that they reduced crisis on infinite earth to a mere fallout. But that being said, it only sets up for another full shared verse
I was pissed about all of the erasing worlds, specially the animated series. But Kevin Conroys goodbye and Mark Hamil, made me keep quiet and respect the moment. It was worth tolerating everything else that the film was not.
The future of DC animation depends on the success of James Gunn’s universe. If Creature commandos is an instant hit WB will pour more resources into their animation department. If it’s a flop expect half-assed garbage. That being said there’s also a possibility they’ll stop creating animated elseworld projects as a whole and solely focus on Gunn’s universe.
The esconde options is what is going to happen. James gun already said that's his plan, focus on his universe and sometimes IF he likes the script, allow some Elseworld story...oh boy, this is going to suck so bad( for me, many people may end up loving it, but me, I like the many different ways to tell stories, scenarios. Hell, my top 3 batman animated movies have no correlation between each other.)
Back in your comment section, before you had to reupload this video, I agreed with you that it's time we have DC Animated Movies be their standalone films and not be part of a interconnected universe and I still stand by that decision.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 You can still have team up films. Batman and Superman had one back in the day with Public Enemies. And there is also Justice League the New Frontier.
The DCAU was great and the DCAMU was good with some issues only the Tomorrowverse was bad due to WB having an animated universe is a good idea it's just WB ruined it and standalone movies for comicbook character like DC heroes doesn't work anymore other than an origin story or one linear storyline put in a trilogy usually
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Not every standalone superhero movie has to be a origin story.. Anyways, I'm actually fine with team up movies, but after watching the Tomorrowverse, I'm kinda losing faith in DC animation.
A perfect summation of the Crisis event and the "death" of the DCAU. The Sgt. Rock cameo fighting the dinosaurs was a nice bit of nonpowered hero nostalgia, but felt forced and cheap as there was really no place for him in he DCAU. Wished they has shown the Teen Titan Go earth slowly being destroyed it would have been so satisfying.
This universe was already mediocre to begin with. Went out the same way it started. Crisis on two earths was a way better Crisis film than the entire trilogy.
@Magnet_Chaos no no. That's is his fault. He said that the plan IS making everything, animation, games...EVERYTHING part of his shared universe with sometimes, if he like the script, allowing some elseworld. So from now on either you are james gunn dcu ou you have to look like James guns dcu. There is no in between
The comic did the same. And then we ended up with another Multiverse a couple of years later. Like it or not the Multiverse is essentially part of the Super Hero genre's DNA. Since at least the 50s. The issue is that the general public finally got a taste of it and now companies are milking it for all it is worth and devaluing the concept.
What doesn't have a multiverse at this point? It's like the default franchises always end up in. Digimon, Pokemon, power rangers, DC, Marvel, Sonic the hedgehog, Mario, Transformers, Dragon Ball etc. I'm sure more can be named.
@@chronoblue418 Plus all those series had a Multiverse from really early on. Way before the concept became well known to the public. And comics started having a shared universe in 1940 and the concept of a Multiverse was introduced in 1953.
@@Testimony201 In every media she gets f**ked. Either turning evil via red kryptonite, being brainwashed by Darkseid as one of his Furies, being Brainiac's war machine, gets beated to death Invincible style or dying like she does here and in the Snyderverse I'm honestly sick of this. Just give my girl a universe where she doesn't go through any of this (except for getting beated up since that's normal for superheroes).
I hope it’s a separate universe from the original DCAU, because I hope to see the DCAU make a comeback someday and see some unfinished stuff get a closing and see characters like green lantern and hawkgirl as well as possibly Batman and wonder woman get together
Hopefully they don't copyrightit again. Ill say it again just cause but i dislike characters being in the background doing very little or just randomly appear just for cameos. If your gonna have multiple characters have them do something significant to the plot or make them interesting to get us to like them. JLU did it well despite it having similar issues as DCAMU but its less of an issue
Yeah but then you run to the issue that you only have 90 minutes for each movie to tell a single story. So how do you: 1. Make it feel like a grand event where multiple characters are being affected. 2. Give literally every single character a thing to do. It's essentially impossible from a narrative perspective. Some characters have to be background cameos by sheer necessity. JLU was able to do it because it was telling multiple stories with each episode.
@@Magnet_Chaos Well they could have not rushed their universe considering that was the main issue for the tomorrowverse. 1. You can Have characters who are gonna be necessary or substantial to the plot. 2. Either you add them and do something substantial or don't bother adding other characters. Look at the DCAMU they introduced character like Wonder girl, Batgirl, etc and they're just killed off just like that, why bother having them their if they're not gonna serve a purpose for the plot or become characters It's not necessarily impossible they could've edit and work their way around the story to make other characters feel useful and crisis was a 3 part movie so i still don't see how it's impossible Even from an episodic standpoint it doesn't change the fact they made the most underrated and underutilized characters feel like characters, you can take a bunch of episodes and turn it into a movie
@@Achieme Because you can't have an event that affects the whole world or universe and only have the 5 or so main characters involved. Like don't get me wrong. They wasted the characters. But the alternative is to just create a bunch of generic original characters to fill the scenes. Also the rushing was out of their control. That was Warner Bros. fault. But they could have definitely handle Crisis itself better.
@@Magnet_Chaosthey could've literally used fan favorites from their other animated shows and movies. Just team up some fun characters and send them to do stuff to stop the multiverse from collapsing. It's not Rocket science. They've done this countless times in the comics.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That literally doesn't solve the issue at hand that it is hard to balance more than 100 characters and give them all something to do. Unlike the comic the movie actually has a limited time to tell the story. Like fine. You made a couple of teams. But what about literally everyone else? Also stopping the Multiverse from Collapsing is the exact opposite of what happens in the Crisis of Infinite Earths comic. Collapsing is what the entire story builds up to.
Regarding a lot of the nostalgic universes being erased. I feel like this comment from reddit may help people calm down a bit; "It literally means nothing. This is just an Elseworlds movie erasing its own version of the multiverse. It has no effect on any other property whatsoever. The only universes that ended were made up for these movies or ones that already "ended" as in there's no new content being made for them. And at the end of the day, they could make a new 03 season completely disregarding the idea this movie brings forth. It's just an Easter egg." And I agree with it, they're just easter eggs and is unlikely canon to any of these versions. And even then, as confirmed by Owlman in Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths (in addressing to how certain characters come back no matter how many times they die), good ideas never die, and as such, they'll live forever. So rest easy knowing that while the Tomorrowverse may have ended the DCAU, Superfriends, Teen Titans, ETC. It will be the the latter who is remember and even revisited in the future.
Constantine definitely messed up, imagine preventing a canon character from exiting, to the point that the universe activates a failsafe to wipe out reality
Ngl the art design of this three movies made me laugh it’s so weird looking compared to the new 52 universe movies. Those ones were way better in my opinion. Like justice league war and all.
Art style was clean. Really nice. Also, the voice acting for almost all of the justice league was damn good. Batman, Flash, and Green Lantern’s VAs were killing it.
All of this was wasted potential. They should have started with the original justice league unlimited characters, the Titans on the Teen Titans cartoon, Batman Brave and the bold cartoon, Young justice, the original DC animated movie universe which was created before the new 52 one that had movies such as Batman under the Red hood, justice league Doom, crisis on 2 earths, the new 52 one and then the tomorrow verse. Wouldve been great to see JLU Superman interact with tomorroverse superman and new 52 superman and so on in and so on. Wasnt a faithful adaptation of the story. Way to many changes and having everyone be the same style from the tomorrow verse made it bland and uninteresting. The only thing good about it was the reprisal of Kevin Conroys Batman before his universe was wiped out. Your right about joker it's credited as Mark Hamill but that wasnt him. It sounded nothing like him.
Why do we always complain when we know is based on the comic book back in the 80s? They’re gonna continue making DC animated hero movies till the day we die. I loved the whole trilogy because I remember the comic book.
Me too, many Injustifed hate just show how toxicity can be on the fandom who the majority haven't even read the og comic, just watched on ytb resumes or talking about the impact more than the actual story.
Great review man and honestly this movie was so disappointing and a complete waste of time and made no sense whatsoever in my opinion, also side note the one good thing i will give this movie credit where it's do is hearing Kevin Conroy as batman one more time and seeing him punch joker in the face one more time was such a great sendoff for his character in my opinion ten times better then that terrible Suicide Squad book that made no sense whatsoever in my opinion.
“Hey do you love Batman TAS, the DCAU, and Teen Titans? Well now everyone from those universes along with the universes themselves is dead!” What kind of pettiness drove the creative process in this movie. Like even SSKTJL was content just killing a single beloved iteration of a character, not multiple universes.
Not exactly: the DCAU that we watched was untouched since from the sounds of it that multiverse was one WITHOUT Darkseid and our DCAU did have a Darkseid. So the E-12 we saw get erased was an alternate version of it, a clue can be taken from how the character model for John Stewart was the one used in JL while the one for Shayera was the one used in JLU.
@@umjammerlammy9993 What do you mean our favorite heroes destroyed universes? They didn't do anything. Also this is adapting a 40 year old comic. A popular one at that. Just saying. Also my dude. It's just a cameo.
It's all milked beyond belief. I keep a tight DVD collection of only what is needed. As far as the Justice League is concerned, I keep Batman Animated series, Batman Beyond, Superman Animated series, Justice League and Unlimited. Then I have a DVD collection that has 18 of the best Batman animated movies, I treat those as separate missions within the universe. I treat the final episode of Justice League Unlimited like Avengers: Infinity War, the last battle and complete closure to it all. I pretend nothing takes place after that including the death of Superman, none of that ever happened in my book.
The ending of the Crisis animated movies is very disappointing because the heroes didn't won or saved their universes, they ran, escaped to a wish-reality. In the comics original miniseries the heroes go back to the beginning of Time and reboot the timeline while fighting the Antimonitor, and later they go to the Antimatter Universe to finish him. Barry, Kara and so many other in the comics didn't commit suicide to a natural disaster like animated Aquaman, they died courageously while fighting evil. People at Warner Bros. just don't get what this stories are about, they just negated 50+ years of animation to have a product to sell again.
It's not bad, Anti monitor winning a good narrative resource considering Infinity War or Dark Knight where the villains won too. Also it helps to feel the menace of the Anti monitor as an unstoppable and undefeatable villain
I’m so glad this is finally over, I personally did not like any of these movie from the tomorrowverse and thought the art-style was so shit and stiff, I sincerely miss the under the red hood era of animated movies😢
To be honest i don't understand why Warner bros now because tara strong tweeted a few months ago about teen titans season 6 will happen and seeing this feels it will not happen at all 7:32
I don't understand all of their logic anymore I mean but been begging for revival for over 21 years ago Marvel revived X Men 97 after 30 years so why not Teen Titans
It was so sad to see Teen Titans 2003 universe being destroyed. At least, couldn't they bring Terra along with the rest of the superheroes on the monitor's ship to give her the task of participate in stopping the anti-monitor? It would give her the redemption and revival she deserved.
The sad part about all this is that you can't really hate or be to harsh on criticizing this movies, because if you're a true fan you can see all the dedication and the good intentions they had with the story, but we all know they were limited by budged and studio interference... I truly believe they did what they could with what they were given... you can see they took stuff from what was in plans for the Snyderverse, but they still tried to stay as close to the comics as possible... and I thought the Tomorrowverse could of been a lot better, but I'm willing to bet the ending was rushed just so James Gunn could had his clean slate for his new unified universe...
I was thoroughly unimpressed with this whole thing. I'm so glad there won't be a fourth part because I don't know if I'd have it in me to watch another one of these.
Crisis on Two Earths, Flashpoint Paradox, Spider-Verse? Clearly, it can be done right. Yes, I know that this the part where someone runs in and claims that all of those were trash and only they're smart enough to notice, but whatever...
@@Xero_Kaiser why is it in every animated series and movie now? It's being overused. Focus on one universe so it can be high stakes. There is no danger because anybody can come back. It's gotten old.
My theory is that DC destroyed the DCAU so they can create a new one! I believe My Adventures With Superman and Suicide Squad Isekai are just some of the new generation of the DCAU!
I was so confused throughout the first two films, like wtf is happening. But i get why they reboot in the end into the prime universe because, of course, its the Gunnverse
Batman TAS scene in crisis should be the animation style moving forward, or something similar at least. With the exception of x men 97, I'm kinda over the whole cgi animation thing
Your probably right about the destroyed universes being not the real ones. But i interpret it as DC basically metaphorically wiping their animated slate clean and moving on. So no more asking for DCAU, teen titans 2003, or any previous animated dc stuff that fans wanted to one day revisit. Its all gone, we'll still get contained animated movies but outside james Gunn DCU no more interconnected universe for the forseeable future.
That's the problem though, like you said, we will most likely still get standalone contained animated movies, but the fact they are self contained while others will also exist, means there is again, a multiverse. Making this all pointless
Now...where do they go from here? Present day writers will most likely go the wrong way going forward. Not one IP these days has survived the ridiculous embarrassing embracing of DEI. Scary, so glad for physical media.
No. No, it was all awful..... absolutely horrible. The end started a few years ago, but to mess up Crisis so badly is just lazy and horrible...There may be still good individual movies, but I'll wait for reviews.
I’m looking forward to what they do next. Their animated stuff has mostly been really good, and it was good to see these movies finally get a bitter/sweet ending to all the stories. But there is one story that remains unfinished and that is Constantine’s. That is likely a cliffhanger for what’s next. I’m fine with them taking a break for a while, but when the movies continue, I hope we’ll see some things we’ve never seen before. 1. Electric Blue Superman (I loved that whole run) 2. Kyle Rayner. So under appreciated and though we’ve seen him once or twice, he needs his whole story told. 3. Full length movies of “side” characters. Nightwing, Steel, Red Robin; all these characters need their own standalone movies. I’m down for whatever, but these are my top three for what I want to see from DC.
I dont know if i simply have garbage taste but i cannot stand how the tomorrow verse looked, I don't exactly know what it is about it but it looked wrong
I remember DC’s Tomorrow-Verse Started strong with Superman Man of Tomorrow and Batman The Long Halloween, and then it went downhill with Green Lantern because there was no Justice League before that.
Well, this review made me do something I have never done before: 'buy' a Digital Copy of a movie (I'm still a big Physical Media guy). When I realized you were talking about stuff I haven't seen yet, I had to watch it NOW. I liked it in the end, although I would have liked to see more 'substantial' endings to at least two 'universes': Now we may never find out what happened between Lex Luthor and Darkseid in the final episode of Justice League Unlimited (Luthor would never just give Darkseid the Anti Life Equation.....something else was going on). Also, I would have liked at least one more 'episode' of the Green Lantern Series to show us how Razer and Aya got back together again, and how Evil Aya was brought to her senses. Still, it should be interesting what the next iteration of DC Animated will be,. Also: Yes, I'm old enough that seeing the 'Superfriends Earth' go brought a little tear to my eye (the ONLY time they were ever shown 'seriously' 😥 😅)
Instead of just showing us random tomorrow versus versions of different characters, they could’ve definitely pulled from every single cartoon every single movie like imagine if we had every single Batman animated version dark Knight returns under the red hood or all the different Supermen would’ve been neat definitely would’ve added more weight to these characters and their deaths instead of just some random Aquaman what if it was the Aquaman from the unlimited universe and the fact that Kevin Conroy wasn’t more a part of this movie, I feel it was a total sin the fact that they would have him do more work on suicide squad than this is criminal though I know they didn’t know he was going to die obviously
But still, he recorded this a long long time ago I would presume so the fact that they would give him only a few seconds with not even Mark Hammel’s joker because that did not sound like Mark 😂 it’s a sin if u ask me
Also, what’s up with caulking my boy Superman, not only once by giving us hope that he might go prime and then they completely curveball with Kara like I get it. She’s gonna die but why wave a bone in my face like Superman prime and then at the end with wonder woman I just felt like they just kept cucking him
Which is a real shame because he was literally the start of this universe I think it would’ve been poetic if he would’ve sacrificed himself, it started with him and then it ended with him kind of like the first time with Barry but hey I don’t get paid to write this bullshit I’m just a fan I no nothing 😂
I've seen the movie and I thought. All the scenes that featured previous dc Tv shows were just eye candy to me Because they've kind of done the same thing with team titans go versus teen titans movie. 8:32 There was a lot of changes that didn't really make sense to me in my opinion but at the same time I understand why they attempted to make those changes. I noticed a number of inconsistencies when you put the 3 movies together. 7:58 Here is a lesson that I have learned over the years and i've learned it from a youtube channel called comics explained. "Never take anything in comics as absolute. Because anything can change at any time". And that statement was proven true because dc comics the entire multiverse in infinite crisis and the old version of the pre crisis dc multiverse returned in dark crisis. 6:27 As for those other previous dc continuities. I called it, and I did predict it. I did say all the other continuities. Were just going to play the roles of universes that either make small cameos or get destroyed. Or play smaller roles. They pretty much destroyed those Replica versions of those old continuities that were featured in the 3rd movie. Look at the Superman that came out in the old cartoon in the 40s from Max fleischer Superman cartoons. He appeared in the cw crisis on infinite earths, and despite earth f as it was called in the cw tie in comic it got destroyed. He got a small continuation comic book in recent years. Is it possible the other character can come back. The answer is yes, because they are fictional characters and the company or the writers can bring him back at any time if green lit for a project. Like Batman beyond he's got so many comic books despite Having only one show Almost getting a movie in a similar style to spider-man into the spider verse. Also Batman from Batman the animated series also appeared in the appeared in main batman comic book titles featuring different jokers across the comic multiverse. The tomorrowverse is own dc multiverse Separate from the main dc multiverse much like the mcu's version of marvel multiverse is separate from the main marvel multiverse. 7:39 At the very end of the day. I just treat all these shows and movies as of a Shared isolated continuities and storylines or just their own isolated storylines in the end. They are just their own franchises made by larger publication of Warner brothers. If they really wanted to make continuations of these old tv continuities. they will if green lit or Warner brothers. Some people didn't even think that the dcamu john Constantine and barry allen were going to tomorrowverse until it came out. Warner Brothers and dc entertainment can do whatever they want with all these continuities at the end of the day. If they want to use them, they will ignore anything they did in the past. me personally I don't really think dcau and Earth 12 are the same continuity because there are some changes and things that don't the Animated Shows. I recommend watching Watchtower database on earth 12 and the dcau video on that note. 10:27 The Anti-Monitor in the tomorrowverse looks exactly like the giant robot from the day the earth stood still movie. In my opinion the Anti-Monitor from green lantern the animated series has a infinity better design then the tomorrowverse in my opinion. The cw at least had build up. 6:35 This scean was the best final line of Kevin conroy. In my opinion it was infinity better the Suicide squad kills the justice league game. 7:00 The tomorrowverse version of earth 12 batman & joker looked like they were from batman the animated series. John Stewart looked like he was from justice league 2001 while Shayera hol looked like she was from justice league unlimited. Overall, I don't take anything in fiction absolute because anything can change at any time.
Not sure if you forgot but Marvel and Dc are famous for Reboots whenever things or plots don’t seem to be working out. So pretty sure they gonna reboot stuff later on.
My view on Crisis on Infinite Earth trilogy DCAU ended with Batman Beyond DCAMU - Constantine ended with Apokolips War Teen Titanus Go switched Universes and died (It got so ridiculous its plausible) It was younger DCAU and DCAU post Batman Beyond Earths that died
I do wonder if the new universe at the end will have significance in the future. The only thing that was shown was Diana as a young child (so the scene is set thousands of years in the past) playing on Themyscira and queen Hippolyta warning her to be carefull. And that's it. We know nothing about this new universe. So they can do whatever they want with it.
It's times like this that I REALLY miss the DCAU. That era consistently delivered greatness right up until the very end. I'm hoping that the new Batman: Caped Crusader series can succeed in restoring things to their former glory.
I liked Hush, 0:56 the Justice Society, and Injustice. The Long Halloween was also pretty good, but almost everything else since Apocalypse Wars wasn’t good. Part of it is that I don’t like this new animation style at all.
So the reason the Joker sounds like that is because this was a joker that had a younger sound, so Mark wanted to recreate that young sound that we 90s kids knew when we were watching batman, justice league, and even return of the joker, whereas the joker we know now sounds a little more aged.
Reupload because UA-cam's a cunt
Agreed
“Don’t be a cunt”
-MEnterprises01
What did you do to make them niggas that mad
Okay Butcher 😂
Preach brother
Speaking of Kevin Conroy, The DC Animated Universe might’ve been the only expansive onscreen DC universe that Warner Bros hadn’t ruined in some capacity
Batman and harlequin says hi.
@@somethingclever4297Eh, more of a minor inconvenience.
@@comixproviderftw_02watch the bat mobile scene and tell me that again.
@@somethingclever4297That scene alone made me not want to watch the movie. 😂
@@jemmellpyron2527 "it smells like..... Discipline."
Once again the problem with the Tomorrowverse was mostly WB's fault. Not only did they have to deal with the lack of budget that's been a problem in DC animation for more than 10 years, a bunch of new problems came up. The writers planned 20 movies for the Tomorrowverse, but WB ended up mandating only 10. And after WB merged with Discovery, more than half of WB's animation department was laid off.
No wonder the tomorrowverse looks so bland compared to old DC animation
If they had the 20 movie deal...really the only other ten that could be added would be
Wonder Woman
Flash
GL/GA
Teen Titans
Doom Patrol
Outsiders
Hawkman/Atom
JLA/JSA
LoSH2
Vixen
Background song name?
I'd also add the writing. I could forgive the animation if the writing was impressive, but it wasn't. It was very bland. So mediocre. Even in this Crisis event when you'd think they'd pull out all the stops. It all just meh.
WB deserves a award for most incompetent decisions making.
I don't know how to feel about them canonically killing every animated universe we grew up on. It feels like they were ripping a part of me away. Like they didn't even show the Teen Titans, just their tower.
I'd feel a lot better if it meant something. If we got to see them for more than a split second. Honestly, they should've had those versions be part of the main cast. Teen Titans interacting with Kevin Conroy's Batman, Batman: Brave and the Bold, etc. As many as they could. They could've gone out woth a bang instead of just kind of fizzling out. What a waste.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpthey fumbled it like the injustice movie
@Oh_geezzz like pretty much all of their recent animated stuff
Its fucking sad that they rushed them to end everything ... thinking it will make us excited for whats next.
I mean, for all the liberties the movie took with the source material, that is essentially what happens to all but the lucky few universes who do merge into the prime universe at the end. I hope they at least do Infinite Crisis at some point though so we can see the characters from this movie again, I thought the movie did a good job in showing how in order to save the universe in some capacity, all of these characters had to sacrifice their consciousnesses and essentially die and be reborn. Not an easy decision at all.
Man, in the last five years, we really are witnessing a slow end of an era with DC as a whole. With the Arrowverses Crisis on Infinite Earths, the final season of Titans (in particular that one Beast Boy episode), Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, DCEU’s The Flash movie and now this (makes me wonder how Superman & Lois will end). Then James Gunn’s DCU is about to usher in a new era with movies, shows, animated material and video games.
RIP to the DC Multimedia Multiverse 1952-2024
James gunn isnt going to do shit lol the reactions to his movie are already serioisly mixed
DC as a whole seems to be in a weird state. I haven't been hyped for anything DC since DC Rebirth. And animation wise, it's just hollow shell of what it was. And Gunn seems to think every single project needs to be a Superman: All Star or everything needs to be a some over the top super deep and complex deconstruction. We traded one Zack Snyder for another in Tom King since he's part of the writing group Gunn chose. This universe is gonna be a mess.
@garycannon4644 His movie isn't even done filming yet, what do you mean "reactions"?
@@brycebitetti1402 there's been leaks of the suits for various characters and the reactions to that are mixed
@@garycannon4644 those suits look terrible. Looks like something out of a CW show
DC has a this fetish of killing fan favorite versions of the DC universe.
It started with JL Dark Apokolypse war, then the arkham universe and now teen titans (don't really care about that one) and DCAU at least Kevin Conroy's last performance wasn't wasted as the batman he started with instead.
The DCAU that was erased WASN'T the version that we watched, since from what they said this multiverse was based on Darkseid NEVER being a threat, so since Darkseid was a threat it means that the E-12 we saw get destroyed was like E-12.4525 instead of the E-12 we watched.
@@1993digifanyeah, that makes sense. I figured. It wouldn't make any sense with what the DCAU did
@@1993digifan I actually wouldn't mind watching ALL of the Dcamu show episodes, but watching how things played out w/o Darkseid existing.
Planet Apocalypse still existed, so maybe Granny Goodness took his place ?
On top of that, the fan favorites get killed in the most gruesome way possible.
Martian Manhunter? Burned to death
Aquaman? Ended up like Go/jo from JJK via Darkseid's omega beams
Zatanna? Eaten alive
Starfire? Also ended up like Go/jo
Bumblebee? Impaled by debris
Nightwing? Stabbed and resurrected as insane in the Lazarus pit.
Beast Boy, Wally West and Jaime Reyes? Also killed with the rest of the titans
All green lanterns are dead
Did I missed anyone?
You don’t care about Teen Titans? You’re an evil person. Kay why S
Part 1: Intrigued me.
Part 2: Bored me.
Part 3: Didn't bother
Facts. I stopped watching part 2 2/3 of the way through.
@@BigPunisher-hl2th Same, just completely bored. It was soooo slow. Part 3 was just on as background noise.
I kept expected them to get less boring and nonsensical. I really should have known better
They sucked
You're better off.
To think, the Tomorrowverse fizzled out faster that the DCAMU. DCAMU's 7 year run and 16 films, compared to this set's 4 years and 10 films. This wasn't even suppose to be an ending, but WB's plans change on a dime, so it is one now, maybe now the DC films can be overwhelmingly good again like we used to say for the past 17 years now.
Kevin Conroy getting probably the best final line of his career, with the role he helped give a iconic voice too. We still miss you GOAT... only negative is that Joker doesn't sound ANYTHING like Mark Hamill's Joker then or now, did they use like... a scratch voice before putting the actual performance in it?
yeah joker sounds like he changed 3 different tones voices in one line, did dc made it with i.a?
According to WB, that line was a stand-in for testing that they accidentally left in for the releases. They apparently fixed it and sent out new copies to people who bought the movie and the streaming services. (Though the UA-cam one still seems to have the bad copy on)
The biggest issue I had is they were so desperate they made anthology movies with no marketing and no budget. So dc threw anything at the wall and none of it stuck
This! I realized this with The Doom that came to Gotham....because wtf was that? And then the animated movies were released out of wack and without care. Doom that came was released on its day but warlord and the infinite movies were a mess. Part 1 and 2 academy out within 40 days of eachother and we had to wait 4-5 months for part 3 that was just a slap in the face and a waste of time
I didn't know about this because DC was busy marketing the suicide squad and Harley taking a dump in the Bat mobile more than this film concluding an animated universe
True
I guess, but when i gave harley quinn & batman a try, it wasn’t that bad, dare i say… i enjoyed it
@@raymondmartinez1263 compared to the original animated series, it sucks.
Sad.
@@raymondmartinez1263 the first few seasons are fun, everything about the show besides harley quinn and poison ivy is tolerable
If the whole point of this was to mix it into one universe, then why not bring together the other animated universes before wiping them out. Let us see them in action one last time before wiping them out. Let us see Kevin Conroy Batman interacting with Batman: Brave and the Bold. This whole thing felt like a wasted opportunity. Now, they'll never get this chance again because Kevin Conroy is gone.
WB and good ideas are fundamentally incompatible
@@sunsetman22 true
only thing this movie will be remembered for is Kevin's line, but man, we live in a timeline where two Batmen are gone, Adam West and Kevin Conroy, what a world
That's and DC basically telling it's fans your aren't getting any new stuff from the old animated series we made so stop asking already. Especially with 2003 teen titans
@@MichelangeloVA I freaking doubt that. Nostalgia sells and they know that.
@@Magnet_Chaos I don't know. The cast of the Justice League animated series kept saying for years they wanted a full reunion movie, but WB weren't really listening to them or fans.
It was nice to finally get Justice League Vs. The Fatal Five in 2019.
@@Magnet_Chaosyes but then they eventually ruin it as usual. Batman Harley Quinn film to DCAU. SS Kills the JL to Arkham-Verse. All the pointless cameos in Arrow’s COIE where older films and shows got dusted. Jason Todd in the Batman Adventures Continue comic from a while back to the DCAU. I’m not even going to list other companies but you get the point.
@@prosperotorres7965 Ok. Look. I'm not going to disagree that the screw things up
But do people understand the point of Crisis in the first place? To destroy the Multiverse? So you have to show a multiverse being destroyed. And that's just and easy vehicles for cameos.
And why does it matter if the older shows and movies got dusted in the Arrow Crisis if the Multiverse was reformed at the end of the crossover anyways?
I can't believe Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans was able to do a better job combining different animation styles and tones of the different universes than a Crisis trilogy.
Teen titans Go is lowkey good. Many meta jokes and self aware of their position as a series
@@AndrewChin-ck9uk the series as a whole sucks, but I enjoyed the movie and the Go vs Teen Titans wasn't bad. Just left a little to be desired. I was expecting more from the original team. The humor was just jarring and didn't mesh woth the tone of the original team.
The movie is good overall and has references to Avengers Endgame. I loved it.
How come I am just learning about this right now, but when Harley Quinn breaks a nail, DC makes sure promote it all throughout the internet!?😢
(just want to reiterate that this is unfair 😆, is as if they want an excuse to keep on only marketing her)
Because WB is stupid
Blame the fans. They know using Harley as wank fodder will draw in views
Because they want to market their "quirky" lesbian psychopath as much as possible
Because they want to market their "quirky" lesbian psychopath as much as possible
Teen Titans just can't seem to catch a break
Don't worry. Things will be made right, one way or another.
@@omgaidebig4121
They were already made right in 2003
Which was erased on this movies
Along with BTAS@@tanner201x8
DC kept rebooting it's universea so much even the videos about it get rebooted.
The only hope is to send in Lucifer Morningstar and take everything back to issue one and make it easy to fallow and stop having there reboots.
@@evacody1249 That's basically the plan for EVERY reboot.
It seemed a little targeted that we saw all those series get Anti-Mattered , but not My Adventures with Superman, like you said Teen Titans GO, nor the Harley Quinn show. To be fair, we also didn't see Batman the Brave and the Bold or The Batman. So only the series that informed our understanding for a lot of the DC Universe got erased. Luckily, there are enough inconsistencies to support your thesis that these are alternate versions of those series we grew up with. John Stewart doesn't even have his goatee but Hawkgirl is dressed in her JLU outfit? And the inside of the Watchtower from JLU looks like the inside of the JL Watchtower from Season 1 and 3?
And Kevin's last line was so cold, I'm not even mad he has even less screen time here than he did in the CW Crisis. Because at least he went out being himself.
Man I wished they had wiped our Harley Quinn and Teen Titans Go that would've been hilarious!
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp give it Time, James Gunn's DCU will be erased in turn. So will David Zaslav and WB Leads.
@@omgaidebig4121 not if there movies do well
It couldnt have been our DCAU that got deleted in that cameo because of their own rules, Darkseid existed there, so like you said, it was DCAU adjacent, done for cameo and shock value.
Personally I can understand the Tomorrowverse being mid, if youre going to do Crisis youre not going to throw away a GOOD universe, so this one was a half baked one. I still think it was better than the DCAMU because it at least respected the heroes a little more than that travesty. The DCAMU was dripping with edge and pessimism especially its finisher movie. I say good riddance, let someone else cook.
@@kronadc Wait, seriously?
@@kronadcEspecially, with the events that happened and worlds introduced in "JL Infinity".
@@kronadc Ah. Good call, because I was/am planning on using (a version of) it for my Wonder Woman anime idea.
That's not what they said, when baby Darkseid was killed the "Darkseid must exist/Darkseid was killed" paradox created a universe with Darkseid and one without. Darkseid will still exist just not in every universe.
Man, I’m still waiting for an animated
“DC Kingdom Come” movie.
Same also blackest night well more of a series than a movie with how much goes on.
Both of y'all will have to keep waiting. Gunn doesn't give a damn about those stories only Tom King's and All Star Superman.
That would surely be a travesty. You can't really do an animated movie with limited budget in the style of the great Alex Ross and doing it just as a generic animation would take away so much from it. I really don't want to see Kingdom Come ruined that way.
I have been saying the same thing for years, but considering how they have just completely screwed up a couple of really good storylines by changing things for I guess their own ego sake, I really would not want them to do that to kingdom come because that is a masterpiece.
I'd love that too, but the people in charge today would undoubtedly mess it up.
Yeah supergirl was done sooo dirty, all she ever knew was loss. So when she went on suicide mission it was noble but to then completely nullify its affect within 10 min is awful writing
I mean if she hasn’t done that then the anti monitor would’ve killed all of them before they even had the chance to reboot the world
@@atl5557 good point, wish they stressed that more
Wasn't she left on the table after she dies so she isn't in the new universe? This is why I'm confused😅 what about Constantine or The Question
At least Super Girl had better treatment in My Adventures with Super Man.
It's like longevity is dying.
Dcau - 14 years
Young Justice Universe - 10 years
The Batman Universe - 4 years
Dcamu - 10 years
Tomorrow Universe - 5 years 😒
James Gunn's DCU won't see 2 years.
@@omgaidebig4121 here's hoping
Why? What'd he do to you to wish ill will on him?!@sunsetman22
@@SecretMagicianbecause he is a snydertard
@@omgaidebig4121it for sure will as Supergirl will vome out in 2026
Honestly, many people dreamed of a crisis on infinite earths movie having different animation styles. Imagine the superfriends animation clashing with the dcau animation that'd be cool to see.
Closest we'll ever come is that still image from Batman: Brave and the Bold that had all the Batmen from different Batman shows teaming up. And I guess Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans a little. What a way to fizzle out. Such a wasted opportunity.
It's been a rough couple of years for 90's kids. They're just butchering our childhoods with glee.
Oh boy, a new interconnected DC adaptation. I can't wait to... And they killed it again.
It was pretty meh throughout honestly
As South Park would say... And it's gone.
That's just any DC timeline before a crisis event
Each universe that died will never have new media going forward
Basically yeah. WB are fools for not capitalizing when fans keep asking for more of these
I'm not trying to watch justice league unlimited without Kevin
@@blackrippin they still could hire Johnathan David Cooke, who did Batman/Bruce's voice on most of his Kids' Wb promos.
I doubt this is a permanent end.
@@thebilldozer7970So did the Teen Titans fans... and they'renuniverse just got destroyed.
(Repost) They really should stop focusing on having a shared universe and instead have more stand-alones. Because that gives writers more freedom and not having to worry about pre existing cannon
I feel you can do both. Some of the DCAMU movies were stand alone.
It complicates some thing in the writing department. But it is possible.
@@Magnet_ChaosI was thinking the same thing. They can be standalone films, but allude to a wider universe without actually showing it.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpshared universe is fine they just need better stories.
@@michaeltaylor788 true
You know the movie fails when only part anyone saw was a 30 second scene with Batman and Joker.
I'm glad the Tomorrowverse is gone. The only movie(s) I liked was The Long Halloween.
Even the Long Halloween they kind of screwed up the big reveal. It was all mediocre and lazy
You know what sucks about this movie version of Crisis; the Anti-Monitor. LITERALLY in the comics, Anti-Monitor is a being born of anti-energy and desire is the complete consumption of the positive reality and erase worlds... AND here, it's just an antibody because DARKSIED DIDN'T EXIST?! HUH?! HOW IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?! How sad the Arrowverse did their Anti-Monitor and even though it's dumb, we were expecting greatness from this. BUT NOPE! Even the Monitor feels pointless since his whole deal is "Maintain the multiverse" and "Deal with his evil counterpart/sibling". BUT NOPE.
Worse part is how short the Tomorrowverse felt and we won't get Infinity Crisis. Just damn... what a disappointment. And at what cost?
Because WB are fools from top to bottom
I found the fact Darkside being a fix entity in time as stupid and that his death caused all this is even more stupid.
@@greenth-mac2550 I know right? I was thinking "There's no way the DC Animation is working with DC itself with the whole Absolute Power to tie it back with it. NOW that would be retarded because it just makes Darksied more OP and this is exactly that.
To think the "New 52" animation timeline cause this yarn of mistakes and nightmares to come out and end it with this. It's just sad to think the best Justice League movie is the Crisis of Two Worlds than expect something grander.
If the DC Gunn films do get a couple of animated projects that correlate with it, then we should dub Gunn's universe the DC Aligned Continuity Universe.
DCACU
@@OriTheWandererExactly.
I don't want to claim them 😢 I was fine with what we had 😅 (minus the shxt released this year ofc)
Small nitpick but a big thing that kept annoying me was Dick Greyson having Tim Drake's outfit and weapon. Like why does DC keep having other robins stealing Tim drip?
I think it's because Tim's a Winx with all that style and flare.
Cause no one wants to wear boy shorts and elf shoes.
Because DC hates Tim and Pre-Red Hood Jason.
Maybe because Dick Grayson’s Robin costume was just a thong along with a shirt and some gloves. That would not look good on any DC animated show meant for kids. Another reason is that I think that the Tim Drake Robin Costume was sort of iconic back in the 90s and early 2000s.
@@samflood5631 Tim's suits have always been more iconic. If you want style...you ask him...afterall...he dates Amazons occasionally....he would know a thing or two...and you don't need to wonder about that boy.
Why can’t they just go back to the Golden days with DCAU that made my childhood and hawkgirl she’s valid
I agree, but it still prefer her with Hawkman. I live how Robert Vindetti gave them a happy ending in the comics. That was lovely
The tomorrowverse is an interlude. It started with Flashpoint and ended with Apokalips war. Tomorrowverse was basically a result of the fallout. A shame that they reduced crisis on infinite earth to a mere fallout. But that being said, it only sets up for another full shared verse
So the Tomorrowverse was just a semi "reboot" of the Animated universe?
Basically
I was pissed about all of the erasing worlds, specially the animated series. But Kevin Conroys goodbye and Mark Hamil, made me keep quiet and respect the moment. It was worth tolerating everything else that the film was not.
The future of DC animation depends on the success of James Gunn’s universe. If Creature commandos is an instant hit WB will pour more resources into their animation department. If it’s a flop expect half-assed garbage. That being said there’s also a possibility they’ll stop creating animated elseworld projects as a whole and solely focus on Gunn’s universe.
Which would suck....since that universe could bring SO much in.
The esconde options is what is going to happen. James gun already said that's his plan, focus on his universe and sometimes IF he likes the script, allow some Elseworld story...oh boy, this is going to suck so bad( for me, many people may end up loving it, but me, I like the many different ways to tell stories, scenarios. Hell, my top 3 batman animated movies have no correlation between each other.)
Gunn's universe is DOA.
At this point the best we can hope is for Time Warner to sell DC
@@ericknunez8069where did you get this information.
Back in your comment section, before you had to reupload this video, I agreed with you that it's time we have DC Animated Movies be their standalone films and not be part of a interconnected universe and I still stand by that decision.
So back to boring origin stories? No more team up films.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 You can still have team up films. Batman and Superman had one back in the day with Public Enemies.
And there is also Justice League the New Frontier.
@@Magnet_Chaos that isn't the "team up" he mean
The DCAU was great and the DCAMU was good with some issues only the Tomorrowverse was bad due to WB having an animated universe is a good idea it's just WB ruined it and standalone movies for comicbook character like DC heroes doesn't work anymore other than an origin story or one linear storyline put in a trilogy usually
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Not every standalone superhero movie has to be a origin story.. Anyways, I'm actually fine with team up movies, but after watching the Tomorrowverse, I'm kinda losing faith in DC animation.
There’s only one antimonitor in dc multiverse and we should’ve seen an epic battle between superman vs antimonitor which we didn’t
Agreed, such a wasted opportunity
And what was up with his outfit/amor? Talk about boring and basic
A perfect summation of the Crisis event and the "death" of the DCAU. The Sgt. Rock cameo fighting the dinosaurs was a nice bit of nonpowered hero nostalgia, but felt forced and cheap as there was really no place for him in he DCAU. Wished they has shown the Teen Titan Go earth slowly being destroyed it would have been so satisfying.
I wish they actually got their planned 5 crisis films instead of just 3 James Gunn kind of screwed this universe over.
Technically Gunn's arrival was just bad timing, Sam Register cut the cord on these.
Man. Gunn is really getting blamed for all the crap the old guard did.
@@Magnet_Chaosthat’s just how simpletons work 💀
This universe was already mediocre to begin with. Went out the same way it started. Crisis on two earths was a way better Crisis film than the entire trilogy.
@Magnet_Chaos no no. That's is his fault. He said that the plan IS making everything, animation, games...EVERYTHING part of his shared universe with sometimes, if he like the script, allowing some elseworld. So from now on either you are james gunn dcu ou you have to look like James guns dcu. There is no in between
Since all the comments are gone. I will just repeat my comment.
"this movie says that the multiverse was a mistake. And I couldn't agree more."
“That multiverse crap is all the rage lately.”
-Homelander
The comic did the same. And then we ended up with another Multiverse a couple of years later.
Like it or not the Multiverse is essentially part of the Super Hero genre's DNA. Since at least the 50s.
The issue is that the general public finally got a taste of it and now companies are milking it for all it is worth and devaluing the concept.
@@Magnet_Chaosyeah, I'm getting tired of the multiverse gimmick. It used to be treated as something special. An event. Now it's the norm? Tf?
What doesn't have a multiverse at this point? It's like the default franchises always end up in.
Digimon, Pokemon, power rangers, DC, Marvel, Sonic the hedgehog, Mario, Transformers, Dragon Ball etc.
I'm sure more can be named.
@@chronoblue418 Plus all those series had a Multiverse from really early on. Way before the concept became well known to the public.
And comics started having a shared universe in 1940 and the concept of a Multiverse was introduced in 1953.
Actually felt Kara/Supergirl’s death mainly because of the legion of superheroes movie.
It was stupid of them to kill Supergirl.. pissed about that
My girl is never getting a
break from DC's abuse.
@@YangTheAce yeah. Even in the Flash Movie and now this.😪
@@Testimony201 In every media she gets f**ked. Either turning evil via red kryptonite, being brainwashed by Darkseid as one of his Furies, being Brainiac's war machine, gets beated to death Invincible style or dying like she does here and in the Snyderverse
I'm honestly sick of this. Just give my girl
a universe where she doesn't go through
any of this (except for getting beated up
since that's normal for superheroes).
@@YangTheAce so true it sad to see her get the treatment she’s been getting for years now.
I hope it’s a separate universe from the original DCAU, because I hope to see the DCAU make a comeback someday and see some unfinished stuff get a closing and see characters like green lantern and hawkgirl as well as possibly Batman and wonder woman get together
Hopefully they don't copyrightit again.
Ill say it again just cause but i dislike characters being in the background doing very little or just randomly appear just for cameos.
If your gonna have multiple characters have them do something significant to the plot or make them interesting to get us to like them.
JLU did it well despite it having similar issues as DCAMU but its less of an issue
Yeah but then you run to the issue that you only have 90 minutes for each movie to tell a single story.
So how do you:
1. Make it feel like a grand event where multiple characters are being affected.
2. Give literally every single character a thing to do.
It's essentially impossible from a narrative perspective. Some characters have to be background cameos by sheer necessity.
JLU was able to do it because it was telling multiple stories with each episode.
@@Magnet_Chaos Well they could have not rushed their universe considering that was the main issue for the tomorrowverse.
1. You can Have characters who are gonna be necessary or substantial to the plot.
2. Either you add them and do something substantial or don't bother adding other characters. Look at the DCAMU they introduced character like Wonder girl, Batgirl, etc and they're just killed off just like that, why bother having them their if they're not gonna serve a purpose for the plot or become characters
It's not necessarily impossible they could've edit and work their way around the story to make other characters feel useful and crisis was a 3 part movie so i still don't see how it's impossible
Even from an episodic standpoint it doesn't change the fact they made the most underrated and underutilized characters feel like characters, you can take a bunch of episodes and turn it into a movie
@@Achieme Because you can't have an event that affects the whole world or universe and only have the 5 or so main characters involved.
Like don't get me wrong. They wasted the characters. But the alternative is to just create a bunch of generic original characters to fill the scenes.
Also the rushing was out of their control. That was Warner Bros. fault. But they could have definitely handle Crisis itself better.
@@Magnet_Chaosthey could've literally used fan favorites from their other animated shows and movies. Just team up some fun characters and send them to do stuff to stop the multiverse from collapsing. It's not Rocket science. They've done this countless times in the comics.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That literally doesn't solve the issue at hand that it is hard to balance more than 100 characters and give them all something to do.
Unlike the comic the movie actually has a limited time to tell the story.
Like fine. You made a couple of teams. But what about literally everyone else?
Also stopping the Multiverse from Collapsing is the exact opposite of what happens in the Crisis of Infinite Earths comic. Collapsing is what the entire story builds up to.
Regarding a lot of the nostalgic universes being erased. I feel like this comment from reddit may help people calm down a bit;
"It literally means nothing. This is just an Elseworlds movie erasing its own version of the multiverse. It has no effect on any other property whatsoever. The only universes that ended were made up for these movies or ones that already "ended" as in there's no new content being made for them. And at the end of the day, they could make a new 03 season completely disregarding the idea this movie brings forth. It's just an Easter egg."
And I agree with it, they're just easter eggs and is unlikely canon to any of these versions. And even then, as confirmed by Owlman in Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths (in addressing to how certain characters come back no matter how many times they die), good ideas never die, and as such, they'll live forever. So rest easy knowing that while the Tomorrowverse may have ended the DCAU, Superfriends, Teen Titans, ETC. It will be the the latter who is remember and even revisited in the future.
Constantine definitely messed up, imagine preventing a canon character from exiting, to the point that the universe activates a failsafe to wipe out reality
Ngl the art design of this three movies made me laugh it’s so weird looking compared to the new 52 universe movies. Those ones were way better in my opinion. Like justice league war and all.
Art style was clean. Really nice.
Also, the voice acting for almost all of the justice league was damn good. Batman, Flash, and Green Lantern’s VAs were killing it.
Exactly I literally laughed it the CW animated dc shows look better
Warner Bros itself is in an infinite crisis at this point.
Was DC just ashamed of this universe? Bc I saw ZERO marketing for this series, I didn’t even know the last part came out
All of this was wasted potential. They should have started with the original justice league unlimited characters, the Titans on the Teen Titans cartoon, Batman Brave and the bold cartoon, Young justice, the original DC animated movie universe which was created before the new 52 one that had movies such as Batman under the Red hood, justice league Doom, crisis on 2 earths, the new 52 one and then the tomorrow verse. Wouldve been great to see JLU Superman interact with tomorroverse superman and new 52 superman and so on in and so on. Wasnt a faithful adaptation of the story. Way to many changes and having everyone be the same style from the tomorrow verse made it bland and uninteresting. The only thing good about it was the reprisal of Kevin Conroys Batman before his universe was wiped out. Your right about joker it's credited as Mark Hamill but that wasnt him. It sounded nothing like him.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. They went he lazy route. Instead of going out with a bang, they fizzled and disappeared. What a waste.
movies like Batman under the red hood, justice league doom, crisis on two earth don't take place in dcamu.
@jflexy1344 I thought they did. Doesn't that stand for DC animated movie universe?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp dcamu does stand for dc animated movie universe but not all animated movies take place in dcamu
@@jflexy1344 I believe Crisis on two earths and Justice League Doom take place in the same continuity, so what universe are they part of?
Why do we always complain when we know is based on the comic book back in the 80s? They’re gonna continue making DC animated hero movies till the day we die. I loved the whole trilogy because I remember the comic book.
Me too, many Injustifed hate just show how toxicity can be on the fandom who the majority haven't even read the og comic, just watched on ytb resumes or talking about the impact more than the actual story.
Great review man and honestly this movie was so disappointing and a complete waste of time and made no sense whatsoever in my opinion, also side note the one good thing i will give this movie credit where it's do is hearing Kevin Conroy as batman one more time and seeing him punch joker in the face one more time was such a great sendoff for his character in my opinion ten times better then that terrible Suicide Squad book that made no sense whatsoever in my opinion.
Finally... the animation style was an eyesore ngl
“Hey do you love Batman TAS, the DCAU, and Teen Titans? Well now everyone from those universes along with the universes themselves is dead!” What kind of pettiness drove the creative process in this movie. Like even SSKTJL was content just killing a single beloved iteration of a character, not multiple universes.
It’s all just so hopeless and edgy. Who the hell wants to watch their favorite heroes destroy entire universes. Like even Thanos wasn’t that hopeless.
Why bother feeling anything.
Not exactly: the DCAU that we watched was untouched since from the sounds of it that multiverse was one WITHOUT Darkseid and our DCAU did have a Darkseid. So the E-12 we saw get erased was an alternate version of it, a clue can be taken from how the character model for John Stewart was the one used in JL while the one for Shayera was the one used in JLU.
@@umjammerlammy9993 What do you mean our favorite heroes destroyed universes? They didn't do anything.
Also this is adapting a 40 year old comic. A popular one at that. Just saying.
Also my dude. It's just a cameo.
Those weren't the actual universes though. They were lookalikes. The actual DCAU and The Batman universes are probably fine.
They butchered Brainiac and the Legion too. Turned Mon El into a fascist. It's like, just run this shit by a fan first.
They started a new universe with the man of tomorrow and already killed it
Good things never last because not enough people appreciate them.
Killing ya dc universe before making blackest night is crazy
It's all milked beyond belief. I keep a tight DVD collection of only what is needed. As far as the Justice League is concerned, I keep Batman Animated series, Batman Beyond, Superman Animated series, Justice League and Unlimited. Then I have a DVD collection that has 18 of the best Batman animated movies, I treat those as separate missions within the universe.
I treat the final episode of Justice League Unlimited like Avengers: Infinity War, the last battle and complete closure to it all. I pretend nothing takes place after that including the death of Superman, none of that ever happened in my book.
They use the machine or not makes no difference, wonder woman still spawns.
The ending of the Crisis animated movies is very disappointing because the heroes didn't won or saved their universes, they ran, escaped to a wish-reality. In the comics original miniseries the heroes go back to the beginning of Time and reboot the timeline while fighting the Antimonitor, and later they go to the Antimatter Universe to finish him.
Barry, Kara and so many other in the comics didn't commit suicide to a natural disaster like animated Aquaman, they died courageously while fighting evil.
People at Warner Bros. just don't get what this stories are about, they just negated 50+ years of animation to have a product to sell again.
It's not bad, Anti monitor winning a good narrative resource considering Infinity War or Dark Knight where the villains won too. Also it helps to feel the menace of the Anti monitor as an unstoppable and undefeatable villain
I’m so glad this is finally over, I personally did not like any of these movie from the tomorrowverse and thought the art-style was so shit and stiff, I sincerely miss the under the red hood era of animated movies😢
They should just go back and continue the DCAMU. There’s a lot of stories that they can still adapt.
They can't because of budget
@@Spantzcatdogbut it's a smart business move considering dcamu made so much more money than tomorrow verse
To be honest i don't understand why Warner bros now because tara strong tweeted a few months ago about teen titans season 6 will happen and seeing this feels it will not happen at all 7:32
I don't understand all of their logic anymore I mean but been begging for revival for over 21 years ago Marvel revived X Men 97 after 30 years so why not Teen Titans
Don't worry. David Zaslav and James Gunn will both be gone very soon.
It was so sad to see Teen Titans 2003 universe being destroyed. At least, couldn't they bring Terra along with the rest of the superheroes on the monitor's ship to give her the task of participate in stopping the anti-monitor? It would give her the redemption and revival she deserved.
Dc needs to give my man superman respect going forward
The sad part about all this is that you can't really hate or be to harsh on criticizing this movies, because if you're a true fan you can see all the dedication and the good intentions they had with the story, but we all know they were limited by budged and studio interference... I truly believe they did what they could with what they were given... you can see they took stuff from what was in plans for the Snyderverse, but they still tried to stay as close to the comics as possible... and I thought the Tomorrowverse could of been a lot better, but I'm willing to bet the ending was rushed just so James Gunn could had his clean slate for his new unified universe...
I was thoroughly unimpressed with this whole thing. I'm so glad there won't be a fourth part because I don't know if I'd have it in me to watch another one of these.
Multiverse movies are always ass. Tell me I’m wrong
Only one I think works is Crisis on two earths. That movie is a better Crisis movie than the entire Crisis trilogy
Spiderverse movies are some of the best movies of all time
Multiverse anything needs to STOP. If it has multi anything, I'm not watching. Very cheap and lazy way of writers who can't write.
Crisis on Two Earths, Flashpoint Paradox, Spider-Verse? Clearly, it can be done right.
Yes, I know that this the part where someone runs in and claims that all of those were trash and only they're smart enough to notice, but whatever...
@@Xero_Kaiser why is it in every animated series and movie now? It's being overused. Focus on one universe so it can be high stakes. There is no danger because anybody can come back. It's gotten old.
DC animated were way better than the marvel movies, but zaslav stinginess turned it into another history channel!
My theory is that DC destroyed the DCAU so they can create a new one! I believe My Adventures With Superman and Suicide Squad Isekai are just some of the new generation of the DCAU!
I'd rather not have either of those
Adventures of Superman has the worst Lois ever
@@testtalon agreed, she's so annoying
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp She makes Amber ( before the character rewrite) from Invincible seem almost tolerable.
@@testtalon she was the reason i didn't watch that show, i have always hated lois but gaddam i never knew i could hate an animated character so much
The tomorrowverse is the worst dc project I’ve ever laid my eyes on
I hated this animation
It looks rigged 2d, but seems like they didn't pull alot effort into making the movement look good in certain scenes
I thought I was the only one going crazy on how Mid the animation is compared to DCs previous work
Say what you will about the DCAMU and how it ended, but at least we got much better fleshed out characters and stories from that era.
Christ saves ✝️🇻🇦
They had to get rid of the Tomorrowverse because James Gunn’s plan is to make everything connected to the main live action cinematic universe.
James Gunn is destroying DC.
Why would they keep rebooting these universes
Money
Warner doesn't understand how to use anyone else outside of batman and Harley Quinn
I was so confused throughout the first two films, like wtf is happening. But i get why they reboot in the end into the prime universe because, of course, its the Gunnverse
I’ll watch this video again idc.
Batman TAS scene in crisis should be the animation style moving forward, or something similar at least. With the exception of x men 97, I'm kinda over the whole cgi animation thing
Your probably right about the destroyed universes being not the real ones. But i interpret it as DC basically metaphorically wiping their animated slate clean and moving on. So no more asking for DCAU, teen titans 2003, or any previous animated dc stuff that fans wanted to one day revisit. Its all gone, we'll still get contained animated movies but outside james Gunn DCU no more interconnected universe for the forseeable future.
This
Ya know with what happened with the reboot of Young Justice, I'm kind of glad they won't touch the classics anymore. I don't want to ruin them.
That's the problem though, like you said, we will most likely still get standalone contained animated movies, but the fact they are self contained while others will also exist, means there is again, a multiverse. Making this all pointless
The original teen titans (2003) are dead?
@@FranciscoAntola no, just an alternate version of them
Now...where do they go from here?
Present day writers will most likely go the wrong way going forward. Not one IP these days has survived the ridiculous embarrassing embracing of DEI.
Scary, so glad for physical media.
Say what you will about Multiverses but you gotta admit DC has way WAY more interesting Multiverse ideas then Marvel especially the MCU.
Exactly. The Flash of Two Worlds popularized the multiverse idea in the comics.
The last 15-20 minutes of Crisis Part 3 was pure Cinema
Really loved it
No. No, it was all awful..... absolutely horrible. The end started a few years ago, but to mess up Crisis so badly is just lazy and horrible...There may be still good individual movies, but I'll wait for reviews.
I’m looking forward to what they do next. Their animated stuff has mostly been really good, and it was good to see these movies finally get a bitter/sweet ending to all the stories. But there is one story that remains unfinished and that is Constantine’s. That is likely a cliffhanger for what’s next. I’m fine with them taking a break for a while, but when the movies continue, I hope we’ll see some things we’ve never seen before.
1. Electric Blue Superman (I loved that whole run)
2. Kyle Rayner. So under appreciated and though we’ve seen him once or twice, he needs his whole story told.
3. Full length movies of “side” characters. Nightwing, Steel, Red Robin; all these characters need their own standalone movies.
I’m down for whatever, but these are my top three for what I want to see from DC.
Funny how we only get to see the new rebuilded Green lantern corps at the end of this movie only to be erased with all the other universes.
I dont know if i simply have garbage taste but i cannot stand how the tomorrow verse looked,
I don't exactly know what it is about it but it looked wrong
I remember DC’s Tomorrow-Verse Started strong with Superman Man of Tomorrow and Batman The Long Halloween, and then it went downhill with Green Lantern because there was no Justice League before that.
So....all of dc animation until this movie is non canon and deleted for good? Well. Time to go back to 90s anime I guess. Ugh.
Well, this review made me do something I have never done before: 'buy' a Digital Copy of a movie (I'm still a big Physical Media guy).
When I realized you were talking about stuff I haven't seen yet, I had to watch it NOW.
I liked it in the end, although I would have liked to see more 'substantial' endings to at least two 'universes': Now we may never find out what happened between Lex Luthor and Darkseid in the final episode of Justice League Unlimited (Luthor would never just give Darkseid the Anti Life Equation.....something else was going on).
Also, I would have liked at least one more 'episode' of the Green Lantern Series to show us how Razer and Aya got back together again, and how Evil Aya was brought to her senses.
Still, it should be interesting what the next iteration of DC Animated will be,.
Also: Yes, I'm old enough that seeing the 'Superfriends Earth' go brought a little tear to my eye (the ONLY time they were ever shown 'seriously'
😥 😅)
Instead of just showing us random tomorrow versus versions of different characters, they could’ve definitely pulled from every single cartoon every single movie like imagine if we had every single Batman animated version dark Knight returns under the red hood or all the different Supermen would’ve been neat definitely would’ve added more weight to these characters and their deaths instead of just some random Aquaman what if it was the Aquaman from the unlimited universe and the fact that Kevin Conroy wasn’t more a part of this movie, I feel it was a total sin the fact that they would have him do more work on suicide squad than this is criminal though I know they didn’t know he was going to die obviously
But still, he recorded this a long long time ago I would presume so the fact that they would give him only a few seconds with not even Mark Hammel’s joker because that did not sound like Mark 😂 it’s a sin if u ask me
Like why the fuck did we focus on characters like Dr. light so much? Who the fuck really wanted to see Dr. light 😂
The fact that it’s a Multiverse story and she got more time than Kevin Conroy’s Batman or any other version of these animated characters is insane
Also, what’s up with caulking my boy Superman, not only once by giving us hope that he might go prime and then they completely curveball with Kara like I get it. She’s gonna die but why wave a bone in my face like Superman prime and then at the end with wonder woman I just felt like they just kept cucking him
Which is a real shame because he was literally the start of this universe I think it would’ve been poetic if he would’ve sacrificed himself, it started with him and then it ended with him kind of like the first time with Barry but hey I don’t get paid to write this bullshit I’m just a fan I no nothing 😂
I've seen the movie and I thought. All the scenes that featured previous dc Tv shows were just eye candy to me Because they've kind of done the same thing with team titans go versus teen titans movie.
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There was a lot of changes that didn't really make sense to me in my opinion but at the same time I understand why they attempted to make those changes. I noticed a number of inconsistencies when you put the 3 movies together.
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Here is a lesson that I have learned over the years and i've learned it from a youtube channel called comics explained. "Never take anything in comics as absolute. Because anything can change at any time". And that statement was proven true because dc comics the entire multiverse in infinite crisis and the old version of the pre crisis dc multiverse returned in dark crisis.
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As for those other previous dc continuities. I called it, and I did predict it. I did say all the other continuities. Were just going to play the roles of universes that either make small cameos or get destroyed. Or play smaller roles. They pretty much destroyed those Replica versions of those old continuities that were featured in the 3rd movie.
Look at the Superman that came out in the old cartoon in the 40s from Max fleischer Superman cartoons. He appeared in the cw crisis on infinite earths, and despite earth f as it was called in the cw tie in comic it got destroyed. He got a small continuation comic book in recent years. Is it possible the other character can come back. The answer is yes, because they are fictional characters and the company or the writers can bring him back at any time if green lit for a project. Like Batman beyond he's got so many comic books despite Having only one show Almost getting a movie in a similar style to spider-man into the spider verse. Also Batman from Batman the animated series also appeared in the appeared in main batman comic book titles featuring different jokers across the comic multiverse. The tomorrowverse is own dc multiverse Separate from the main dc multiverse much like the mcu's version of marvel multiverse is separate from the main marvel multiverse.
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At the very end of the day. I just treat all these shows and movies as of a Shared isolated continuities and storylines or just their own isolated storylines in the end. They are just their own franchises made by larger publication of Warner brothers. If they really wanted to make continuations of these old tv continuities. they will if green lit or Warner brothers. Some people didn't even think that the dcamu john Constantine and barry allen were going to tomorrowverse until it came out. Warner Brothers and dc entertainment can do whatever they want with all these continuities at the end of the day. If they want to use them, they will ignore anything they did in the past. me personally I don't really think dcau and Earth 12 are the same continuity because there are some changes and things that don't the Animated Shows. I recommend watching Watchtower database on earth 12 and the dcau video on that note.
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The Anti-Monitor in the tomorrowverse looks exactly like the giant robot from the day the earth stood still movie. In my opinion the Anti-Monitor from green lantern the animated series has a infinity better design then the tomorrowverse in my opinion. The cw at least had build up.
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This scean was the best final line of Kevin conroy. In my opinion it was infinity better the Suicide squad kills the justice league game.
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The tomorrowverse version of earth 12 batman & joker looked like they were from batman the animated series. John Stewart looked like he was from justice league 2001 while Shayera hol looked like she was from justice league unlimited.
Overall, I don't take anything in fiction absolute because anything can change at any time.
Nice writing skills.... isn't it copied from chatgpt 😂
Not sure if you forgot but Marvel and Dc are famous for Reboots whenever things or plots don’t seem to be working out. So pretty sure they gonna reboot stuff later on.
They just didn't wanna finish any last episode dc shows and so just gave us those moments we loved just to redo their comics
My view on Crisis on Infinite Earth trilogy
DCAU ended with Batman Beyond
DCAMU - Constantine ended with Apokolips War
Teen Titanus Go switched Universes and died (It got so ridiculous its plausible)
It was younger DCAU and DCAU post Batman Beyond Earths that died
I like the idea of the Miracle Machine and how Grant Morrison used it in Final Crisis. Never thought I'd see it return elsewhere.
I do wonder if the new universe at the end will have significance in the future. The only thing that was shown was Diana as a young child (so the scene is set thousands of years in the past) playing on Themyscira and queen Hippolyta warning her to be carefull. And that's it. We know nothing about this new universe. So they can do whatever they want with it.
It's times like this that I REALLY miss the DCAU. That era consistently delivered greatness right up until the very end. I'm hoping that the new Batman: Caped Crusader series can succeed in restoring things to their former glory.
I liked Hush, 0:56 the Justice Society, and Injustice. The Long Halloween was also pretty good, but almost everything else since Apocalypse Wars wasn’t good. Part of it is that I don’t like this new animation style at all.
People bitch about injustice, but if you see it as its own thing it's pretty good.
So the reason the Joker sounds like that is because this was a joker that had a younger sound, so Mark wanted to recreate that young sound that we 90s kids knew when we were watching batman, justice league, and even return of the joker, whereas the joker we know now sounds a little more aged.