Top 5 Reasons to NOT MAKE BIODIESEL
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- DO NOT MAKE BIODIESEL!
Thinking of making your own bio-diesel fuel? Don't do it! Here's five reasons NOT to make your own biodiesel.
Part 1 explains why not to make biodiesel.
Upcoming Part 2 walks you through how to make a FULL BATCH of Biodiesel with Greg's Garage!
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See Part 2: How to make Biodiesel at home:
• Making a batch of Biod... - Наука та технологія
None of those 5 make me want to change my mind
1. Just make the fuel in a shed or covered carport with a sand or dirt floor that can be easily replaced if it spills. If this is not an option, then build a containment basin with the capacity to retain double the expected production amount and have some kind of absorbent, such as cat litter, to aid with clean up.
2. You can use sodium hydroxide in place of potassium hydroxide for the catalyst, which you can get sodium hydroxide at Home Depot as drain cleaner. Can't really get around the price and difficulty of acquiring methanol unless you work for a company that will buy it in bulk for you or you can find a place that will sell it retail in bulk.
3. You can be legal with the taxes if you go to your local Department of Transportation and fill out a fuel usage affidavit with gallons of biofuel used and miles driven and pay the road tax. Different states have different regulations on whether you have to pay the fuel tax monthly or quarterly. You will be given a receipt that you can provide to police if they try to cite you for using alternative fuels.
4. Yes, this stuff is flammable, so distilling in a well ventilated area that is away from other combustibles, such as buildings, trees, and trash, will reduce the risk of a fire spreading if one breaks out. Having a 10lb ABC fire extinguisher nearby is also very highly recommended.
5. Using a biofuel with a mixture greater than 20% is not recommended in any diesel engines that have DPF or SCR systems or if the engine has a fuel opacity sensor. Using higher mixes in these engines can plug up the DPF filter or cause an error code to be triggered by the sensor and cause the engine to run poorly. Diesel engines that don't have these systems, typically, but not all inclusively, ones produced before 2009, will run very well on biofuel since it has a higher lubricity than ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel, which will reduce wear on injectors and other fuel components, as long as it's filtered properly. If you're using biofuel in colder environments, it's a good idea to either mix it with pump diesel or add a anti-gel additive to prevent gelling in winter time.
I hope ya don't mind... I screenshotted this... THANKS FOR EVERY BIT OF THAT! What if one were making diesel for the sole purpose of running an old generator I purchased at a military surplus outlet? I'm concerned mostly with taxes...
@@danielbrowning238 If the only use of the fuel is to power a generator or farm equipment, such as a tractor, then it's considered off-road fuel and isn't subject to taxation. Only fuel used for on-road purposes is taxed.
Diesel has almost doubled in price within the last 6 months. So biodiesel has become very attractive
Don’t do it!!!
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Do it or be black
I love your smiles as you talk about the 5 reasons why not to make it! haha, it was hard to come up with the 5 hey 😅
I would recommend a little thought to reason #1 in how materials are handled and even a funnel would solve the mess problem LOL. Loved it Greg. Nice and informative 👍
I have a 2004 Vauxhall, or as you say in America, Opel Zafira, and make bio, and it runs nice. I've had 2 of the same car, and been doing it for about 6 years, and is a high pressure diesel engine y20dth. The reason the last one broke down, is drive went when changing down gear. But car I have now runs nice on it
Nobody says “Opel Zafira” in America. Nobody knows what that is.
you are so motivating, now i feel like i have to start making it
please don't! re-watch the video!
So when I put in tank would I still need to get engine up to 170° ? (Two tank system) . Would I even need the diesel tank anymore? Do I need to heat up the fuel before it hits the engine?
No no no. Biodiesel is the same as regular diesel. (Older engines only). Same tank. It behaves the same but does gel at very low temps.
looking forward to the follow up!!
So there's actually every reason to make it!!! Great moving forward. Legend
Here it is
1. It's messy and could spill everywhere
2. It's difficult to get the supplies (getting the old oils, potassium hydroxide flakes)
3. Pisses off the government by not paying tax
4. Fire hazard
5. Potential car wrecker!
thanks John
Wait... 3 is a why not?
This great, thank you.
Then there are things like cetane value. A company probably has staff who can ensure that they get a certain cetane value for the fuel
How does biodiesel wreck your engine on a common rail? If the fuel is clean and properly processed, it should run cleaner than petro diesel. You might need to change the fuel filter more frequently while it cleans out the fuel system. What am I missing?
Mainly sensors, and like the injection pump in a 6.7 powerstroke has extremely low tolerances. You would have to get it to astm standards for it to run decently.
this dude is clueless try this info:
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Yeah, this is rubbish
Distillation?
it need a certain cetane rating for them to work correctly.
You sold me! I gotta do it now! :)
Beat laugh I have had all day
I have been making it for 6 years and running my 2,8 diesel hilux on it. I'm gonna keep doing it.
I ran this in a 2.8 hilux for 7 years! great motor.
@@gregs_garage True, a tad sluggish on the hills, yet I'm never in a hurry and all the tools that overtake on the hiway and dangerous bends are seen at the next town!
I used to pour veg oil into my golf 20 years ago.
Going to buy a converted van to travel, would love to use veg oil as I'll be driving a lot, but worried it will damage my van
Great points!
None of these points are relevant in the UK>
Would you be willing to do a video on making biofuel, or diesel through the process of pyrolosis, biomass reactor, I think this process negates the pitfalls of biodiesel. Doesn't ruin your injectors, pr require heating tanks, extra filtration, doesn't require an inline fuel pump, or removing all rubber fuel lines. 🤔
I'd have to do some research. where do i look?
@@gregs_garage Hello, there are several channels that show the process. It is a little more labor intensive system. you take plastic - bottles, wrappers, rubber tires minus the steel cords. chop up small pieces. place it all into a sealed container. IF you can remove all the O2 from it even better. heat it up to to where it will melt it will release flammable gases that will need to be burned off or reused as the heat source, then it goes through a condenser to be liquefied. The end product is grade B fuel oil.
There are a fair amount of production plants around the world.
If you collected 100 pounds / 45kg of plastic you would get roughly 10 gallons / 40 liter of oil.
@@lnwolf41 too much work on a small scale
sort of, but if it can be mass produced it will get rid of plastic as well as make fuel cheaper
@@gregs_garage
Hello, for 2017 amarok diesel truck how can you further purify?
Probably fancier dry washing with wash towers
6:35 the 7.3 power stroke is the best, even though it was discontinued, if anyone is to make the mistake of getting a power stroke at least they should find a used 7.3 the 6.0 and 6.7 really suck, find a good Cummins or Duramax
What about a 6.7L Cummins?
I would like to know about how much you have in your processing set-up.
probably $500
@@gregs_garage I’m interested in making the set up but I don’t have any knowledge in it, can you train me to be able to set up a processing plant like this?
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QUESTION. i have 60 gallons of old but unused cooking oil. its kinda rancid. can it be used for bio diesel?
If rancid I think it will not work as well because it is full of acid.
@@gregs_garage thank you sir
@@gregs_garage Can you extract the acid and then form something so you can use it as fuel?
What are your thoughts on running b100 on a 03 Duramax
try it. don't blame me if it blows up.
You could use it for heating too
I think that’s a great idea. We do not have heating oil around here so I don’t know how it smells. But biodiesel has very little smell when burning
The 5th reason is the only one that even factors. Prep on preppers. Dont trust the government.
Hmmmmm, I’m trying to find out how well try 2006 5.9 Cummins will take bio diesel. I’m in a pickle if I can’t get diesel for cheaper. Then I’ll decide if it’s worth pursuing this route.
It worked very well in my 01 model. It also ran very well on filtered veg oil.
@@pauljohnson2372 no way! You just filtered it and ran it? (Of course starting it and shutting it down on diesel I’m assuming)
@@qmyers367 filtered down to 5 micron, yesir. Started fine on 100% wvo during hot weather. It does cause rubber to break down prematurely, something to be mindful of of you have rubber suction hose for your fuel pump
that 5.9 will run great on biofuel
Have an 05 I'm thinking about with fuel prices going up. Seen a few doing it but others saying only do it on older trucks...
I know reason 3 is a big reason I'd like to
6.7, 3.0 and 3.2 Powerstrokes are sensitive to fuel quality. Alot of problems with the HPFP's due to fuel quality. I wouldn't recommend using home brew diesels in any modern ford from 08 up. Powerstroke tech talk with Arod and I both have talked about this before on his Livestreams. Now MY 07/6.0 and down not a big deal. Personally I've been running 100% used transmission fluid for years. I just filter it and run it. I've been thinking about bio diesel as my ATF source is dried up since I'm not working at the dealership anymore. In Florida I don't think I'll have to worry about the bio gelling up. Between my 7.3 and my ALH I need to do something and quick.
used trans oil. excellent.
I have 2 7.3L IDI diesels (1992 fords) and 2 6.5L diesels (1995 chevys) and they will burn dog piss (if I could figure out how to get my dogs to piss in a bottle)! I installed fuel tank heaters and can run straight filtered waste veg oil, no problem. The newer diesels (2000 and newer), most will have problems.
Are you making this video with a gmc cyclone on your 4 post lift🤔
Good eye. The Syclone runs terrible on biodiesel
What about converting a diesel generator to be able to take biodiesel?
You may not have to convert it. Just put biodiesel in the tank. Depends on emissions features of the generator and temperatures.
@@gregs_garage I thought you had to change the filter or something on the gen?
@@alexthompson8307 perhaps the DPF. You need to do more research and develop an understanding of the issues before even remotely thinking about alternative fuels. You need to "want" to understand it.
When can we get the follow up video
editing now. Hopefully within a week.
check it out
There are those who have put ordinary rapeseed oil in the tank of an old diesel car. With good results. The problem is probably the cold, but maybe there is something to put in so that it can withstand the cold? apparently there is also a certain pop star in the US who fills up his old Mercedes with frying oil
you can burn straight veg oil, but it causes lots of problems longer term. That oil doesn't burn like diesel and can cause problems in the injectors and cylinder walls among other things.
Biodiesel burns more like petro-diesel.
Rapeseed oil is called canola oil in Canada and the US. That's what he uses for making his biodiesel.
Who is the pop star?
I have friend, who run his very old Ford Transit on just filtered vegetable oil. It is 2.5L diesel 75hp.. When the weather is cold, he start it on diesel, and preheat the oil, to be able to run it, but it run perfectly fine when the oil is warm. And smells like chips :) So if the engine is simple enough it can run on huge variety of oils... I know one other guy who sometimes run his car on transformer oil :)
True. Will run for a while anyway
transformer oil is highly toxic dude, not worth the health risk
@@wardwyseur I don't use it, one guy who I know use it, but looks like he know what he do.. My car runs on diesel and it is common rail so I don't try alternatives :D
Can you use ethanol vs methanol
I think so but I’m not sure of the chemistry. Methanol probably cheaper
oh yeah... i never thought about the setbacks of biofuels
How much canola oil cost though?
The key is to get a good free source of used oil. New Canola oil is very expensive.
have you ever worked at a chemical plant well i have and they have what's called a spill pit in case such things happen b
Yeah it’s a disaster if it spills.another reason not to do this.
Why do you make the oil yourself and use it but recommend that other people don’t?
For the 5 reasons.
Yes but you are clearly demonstrating that it can be done. It’s not like you are the only person capable of making it. What makes you better suited to making it than others?
@@limitlessg9166 liability and risk
Does biodiesel destroy engines
no necessarily
Reason number 1: You'll make a mess !!!! That's a good reason
A Cummins 5.9L wouldn't care if it ate bio would it? Asking for a friend...
I doubt it would be a problem for a 5.9. Blend it with petroleum diesel to be sure. 50/50 maybe
If its not damaging your motors those 5 Reasons are not enough for not to make bio diesel
Top one reason to make biodiesel. Just follow all the regulations and act passed by the gov. Strictly follow the safety standards.
Diesel prise is 2,8USD/ 1Liter... thats like 170USD for a tank on a normal car.
Electric price is 0,40USD/ 1Kw and some times even 0.62USD/ 1kw ! normal small house thats like 250USD in for 4weeks just in electric. give or take what you need or use.
I old diesel engine connected to a generator, can eat poor biodiesel and have no problem on it! :D
I really thinking about it!!!
This year to this date, I used 3700USD in electric so far. - and the price will soon even be more expensive.
I live in a small house 95m2, nothing special. Just to give you the picture !
Where are you Ken?
@@gregs_garage I live in Norway :D
the country that now dryd out all there water magazine for hydropower production to feed Europa whit electricity.
Price prediction to the winter can be some hours prices all the way up tp 0,82USD/ 1kwh example 3 hours a day it can be that hight.
@@negueba235689 that is terrible. We will have no money and freezing in the dark! Canada electricity was 0.08 Cents/kwh for a long time but the green cult is pushing it higher now.
I wish Canada could send LOTS and LOTS of LNG (liquid natural gas) to europe and asia and feed the world with heat and power. But Canadians cannot get out of their own way and oppose development at every turn, to our own detriment. Insanity.
@@gregs_garage green cult, that's the thing.! All the green projects that impact the world but have no real benefits but is a large income economic for the top players in the society.
Thnaks for the comment, i love the nature in Norway but maybe canada is the next step :D
Biggest problem i think is to get cheap oil or waste oil :(
Yes sourcing decent quality oil is a challenge.
He's in receipt of subsidies from the fuel giant's.
what subsidies? I'd love to get some please send my way!
1st point: stoopid
2nd point: stoopid
3rd point: stoopid
4th point: stoopid
5th point: stoopid YOUR WELCOME
How long did it take you to type that all?
The government stated the main danger of making this , is the slipping over on the oil
They said " your very likely to slip over and Epstein yourself " 🤣
Reason #6
6th point: methanol is poisonous and KOH is caustic.
Make it outside, if it burns you just get to stand by the fire until it goes out, I do not have a diesel car but I think I am going to get one so I can make some Government mad, lol and life is a messy thing, lol.
Don't make it at all. But agree outside fires are better.
Reason 2 is not a valid reason, plus I have a supplier that only procures used oil. Plus I live in California which makes things different. And California has no laws regarding the usage of biofuels.
I thought California had rules for everything.
Essa foi boa hahahahaah
Y do u use all those ingredients. I seen videos. Where they just use gas and old oil 🤷🏻♂️
Gas and old oil is not biodiesel.
@@gregs_garage what is it then. The guy filters the oil. Sad mixes old gas. let’s it sit for 3 weeks. And puts it in his truck.
@@TheRobbietufaro What is it? It's petroleum based oil thinned with gasoline. It may burn in a diesel engine with unknown results. It has nothing to do with biodiesel.
Biodiesel is derived from vegetable or animal-based fats with the glycerin removed. The resulting light oil (biodiesel) has similar properties to diesel fuel but is much cleaner.
@@TheRobbietufaro also known as black diesel. Wouldn't burn it in a passenger vehicle. I've heard it burns well in heavy equipment. It is excellent for heating oil though.
It’s messy and labor intensive/time consuming
yes that's a main reason.
these poor canadians all these are great reasons to make biodiesel. It is impressive to see the differences a boarder makes.
Same reasons apply in the USA
Ps tell all of your fellow country men save them $1000's of dollars per year and the best thing about it is the granny can do it even people in flats hope this helps you All 🤪🤪🤪🤪😃😃😇❤
I don’t know what the words above mean but it sounds like a great story
Port injected diesel engine would be fine to run on bio, not direct injection. Everything is direct injection these days and it's pure crap with the carbon built up. I have a 2016 Super charged V8 petrol car that is port injected and i will not be selling it.
Pps sorry not flats apartments you call them 🤪🤪
I haven't seen a valid reason to not do this.
Next video how to cook meth 🤣🤣
Number 6. And this comes more as part of don't wreck your car a bit.... Petrodiesel isn't just hydrocarbon fuel. They also have an additive package that includes all sorts of detergents, decoking agents, anti microbial agents and freezing inhibitors. Commercial mass manufactured biodisels that are made to American/European/International standards also have these additive packages. So Even if your car says it will run on B20 okay... It will probably suffer badly on homemade B20 in the long term. Where homemade B100 or other blends excel is in home heating. B50 with 45% used motor oil and preferably 5% or so brand new Diesel motor oil or a good 2-stroke oil really works fantastically. The reason you use the fresh Diesel motor oil or 2-stroke oil is because of some rather fancy chemistry.. Motor oils when they burn (especially old used oils or tallow/vegetable oils) produce a LOT of acids and coking in heaters... Fresh motor oils, if you look at their technical datasheets have this thing called TBI (Total base index). It's a measure of how much anti-acid additives are in that oil. Diesel engine oils and 2-stroke oils have some of the highest percentages of anti-acid and decoking additives in them of any oils on the market. This massively helps in keeping burners clean and stops exhausts rusting through at a very high rate.
what about adding some good old DEXRON ATF in the blend?
If these are your lame 5 reasons I'm not even looking for your second video.
Here's a good translation of the top 5 reasons:
1.) You're too careless and lazy.
2.) You're too lazy and don't know how to search for things on the internet.
3.) You're not a patriot.
4.) You haven't embraced your pyromaniacal side.
5.) You own an over-engineered, over-priced vehicle.
You have it all figured out.
@@gregs_garage Thanks for this video. I've been wanting to try this just to have something nerdy to do with our spent cooking oil. I want to make some for low-grade charcoal starter, lantern fuel, burn pile accelerant, etc. I already buy my sodium hydroxide for soap making from Duda Diesel. They've got everything else.
@@argentorangeok6224 this works good for charcoal starter. I mix it 50/50 with alcohol.
by itself it won't light up
A big mess is not a good reason to not make biodiesel. It sounds and looks like your telling people to not do it so you can take it all yourself
Yes I’m going to corner the 17 billion litre cooking oil market 100 litres at a time.
@@gregs_garage😂😂🤣🤣 You'll be RICH!!! 🤣🤣😂😂
So you made this video as a manual for millennials? Lol
I don't know what that means.
@@gregs_garage millennials don't know how to struggle to make it work. They are beyond lazy and entitled. I said that because I'm a business owner for 35 years. I know how to work hard and get paid. Millennials are weak, stupid, and ignorant. Your video is about reasons why not to make biodiesel. That is a millennials perspective. Anything can work if you do. 😉
So basically you should make your own BD because these concerns all sound like they fell out of the mouth of a woman.
algud better to make ur own