R.I.P Chi. I really hope they get around to releasing Eros, either as an album or an EP. Chi was simply the perfect bass player for Deftones. His basslines are just sublime!
I can’t describe the goosebumps I got on the evening of November 2 2019… Deftones performed “Smile” at the Dia De Los Deftones festival. I do have video of it. I’ll post to my videos tonight if anyone has not seen it live. One love for chi
I was in Salem, MA when I first heard Smile, the year before I was playing Hole in the earth and crying but hearing Smile the year after did in fact make me smile; I was so hype for whatever tf Eros was about to be, I really really hope they release what's finished one day!
No we don’t. We need a bassist with talent, competence and a work ethic lending to a commitment to the band. If Chi’s son possesses these qualities, then great. But it’s not likely a Zoomer will be a good fit for this band.
@@JaBrandonSpoonswho's to say a Gen Z kid doesn't have those capabilities even IF it ain't Gabe?? The bias is real 🤣 I'm a millennial and Jaco is my fav electric bassist, there's no real divides in music; anyone can be dope. Quit hating my man
Seeing them play Smile live and dedicate it to Chi was beautiful. I think all deftones fans agree that we'll get to hear the record some day but who knows, maybe they re-used ideas for later albums. People say that Dallas became Beauty School eventually. I love the sound of the heaviness and atmospheric stuff. Hopefully we get to hear it
I just listen to smile a couple days ago and just like the feeling your friend had about goosebumps, as did I. It was probably one of the most beautiful songs they've done and 100% in the top 5 songs they've done
Man I love your work This whole story is so sad yet unfortunately so Deftones-esque Sad an powerful am taking you on a journey you didn’t know you needed. Idk if they will ever release Eros. An I’m good with that decision either way. One Love
Thanks for the video- didn’t know a fair amount of what you discussed in this video, outside of Chi and what happened. But long time fan of this band. As for releasing Eros- that’s a hard question to answer. Because for us (fans), the answer is always going to be a resounding yes. But I also think that the truth of the matter, is the music is theirs. It represents a period of time (the last period of time) where those guys were all together doing what they loved. I think it would be unfair to expect them to release the album as it was- and it would be incredibly hard for them to finish it without Chi. Those guys have been asked if they’re going to release that album so many times- I personally would have to believe that at a point, it almost would have been better to just say “no”. Then, if the guys change their mind- cool. If not- respect that too. I guess if I had to choose, I’d say this. If we look in the mirror, and recognize how powerful music is, the emotion it invokes in all of us…..then those of us that have made music with friends together (and even those who haven’t)- should have some sense of how powerful that feeling is amongst the people who made the songs together, created those songs together, and then something happens to one of your closest friends who was a part of that. If I’m being honest, I’d want to hold that close to me and my band mates hearts. For us. Maybe that’s selfish- and so be it. Plus I’d just my opinion, which matters none lol. One thing that’s undeniable though, is that they’re still together, making music- and it’s always been fresh, and relevant to where they’re at in that space in time. Going back to work on that album- or touring around it- I don’t think I’d want to do. Then again- if they hated being asked so much; you’d think they would just say “we’re not going to release it, here’s why, etc. Next question please.” And they seem to be unwilling to shut the door on it. Which I also understand too. Who would want to shut that door. Knowing what’s in the room behind it? Bottom line- I think they should do exactly what they want with it. And to a certain point- so far, I think they kind of have. 🤷♂️ thanks again for the video.
The first time I heard smile was a few years after being released but it was like Christmas morning to me once I knew it existed. I'm sure it went around 30 times.
Almost forgot to comment on one of your videos. For shame. I still periodically watch the Dallas footage and love the instrumental like it's a complete song. The band will forever miss Chi's backing screams - my brain still fills the final part of Feiticeira with them like the live versions.
YES! and frankly I'm tired of this new wave they been on since KNY; I hope this new album coming next year has actually great songwriting, lyrics I can feel and not such a damn muddy mix
Goosebumps and teary eyed - Thank you for this. A lot of information I wasn't aware of, you've really done good research. I was home when I happenstancingly (definitely not a word) found "smile" and I lived with it for weeks on end. I haven't listened to it for a while because it's so emotion invoking. I would love for them to slowly release what is done but when the time is right of course.
You know what the real tragedy of Eros is? Is gonna be released unfinished if they don't finish it. Warner owns it, and when these guys pass away this is gonna be the final cash cow that get milked to no end. So either they finish it and release it on their terms for themselves or the Corp releases it as a soulless cash grab
Wait, didn't Diamond Eyes come out sometime in 2010? So you mentioned that Chi passed away in 2013. Idk i have to rewatch i guess. I remember that when KNY dropped in 2012, it was amazing and it really seemed to me like every album Deftones ever released was somehow synched with my life. I guess until Gore. The last record they did, just seemed totally off to me. The single was dope but listening to the whole album was a huge disappointment. I can only hope we get one final amazing Deftones album before it's too late. Ohms was not that good.
I think it's about time for EROS to be released, even if it's just as an EP. I think it would go a ways to help them get over their grieving, which to be honest, I think has been over-sentimental and over-done by now. We have to all come to terms with death, but the way that people have gone on and on about Chi Cheng is almost as if they knew him personally. It's not like the death of Cornell, Layne or Weiland. They were actually personally impactful, but Deftones collectively have gone overboard with the Cheng worship. Having said that, I firmly believe they did Sergio wrong by not offering him a permanent position. I think that is a lot to do with them giving the bassists' funds to Cheng's family. Let's be real. It's not like Cheng was on tour when he died. He died without a seatbelt on. Something that kids are taught to wear. So to the original point, releasing EROS will help the band get over it and move on. No use punishing people alive, ie. Sergio, for the acts of those who are dead. The hubris of Chino should be held in check.
I think this project is way overhyped. People are expecting it to be a shelved masterpiece, it's probably just unfinished and half-baked. Smile was good, Melanie is like a copy of Rats!Rats!Rats!, not too impressive. That Dallas jam is also pretty cool.
One day a band will arise and refuse to cover one eye. Only then will we finnaly have the heros we need but do not deserve. Im so sick of finding my favorite bands in tons of pictures with one eye covered, signifying their selling of their souls. Then maybe the entire band will cross the finish line together without missing one or more members. Don't act like it's not true. I've been in the industry for long enough to know the facts. And this fact is one that sucks the most.
R.I.P Chi. I really hope they get around to releasing Eros, either as an album or an EP. Chi was simply the perfect bass player for Deftones. His basslines are just sublime!
I can’t describe the goosebumps I got on the evening of November 2 2019… Deftones performed “Smile” at the Dia De Los Deftones festival. I do have video of it. I’ll post to my videos tonight if anyone has not seen it live. One love for chi
Man, when Chino was screaming his name. That got me 😢
Same 😮💨
I was in Salem, MA when I first heard Smile, the year before I was playing Hole in the earth and crying but hearing Smile the year after did in fact make me smile; I was so hype for whatever tf Eros was about to be, I really really hope they release what's finished one day!
big facts. smile definitely put a smile on my face. especially that bass line
I love Salem. I was born in Dorchester. I miss Mass. Currently in Taiwan. Been traveling the world and listening to Deftones since 1996.
Excellent video, brought tears to my eyes. What we need, is for Chi’s son to be the new bassist for the tones
now that would be legendary
Yooooooo!!!
No we don’t. We need a bassist with talent, competence and a work ethic lending to a commitment to the band. If Chi’s son possesses these qualities, then great. But it’s not likely a Zoomer will be a good fit for this band.
@@JaBrandonSpoonswho's to say a Gen Z kid doesn't have those capabilities even IF it ain't Gabe?? The bias is real 🤣 I'm a millennial and Jaco is my fav electric bassist, there's no real divides in music; anyone can be dope. Quit hating my man
@@JaBrandonSpoonsthey already had that and look what happened, cergio got screwed.
Seeing them play Smile live and dedicate it to Chi was beautiful. I think all deftones fans agree that we'll get to hear the record some day but who knows, maybe they re-used ideas for later albums. People say that Dallas became Beauty School eventually. I love the sound of the heaviness and atmospheric stuff. Hopefully we get to hear it
Cool video. Saw them live a year ago and even met Chino randomly on a street in Stockhold, Sweden. Never get tired of these guys.
the legend himself! thanks for watching man
I'm excited to someday hear "Eros", but if it never comes out and just stays between the band...I'm ok with that.
Quality material as always. Thank you sir for doing gods work
i try man lol
I just listen to smile a couple days ago and just like the feeling your friend had about goosebumps, as did I. It was probably one of the most beautiful songs they've done and 100% in the top 5 songs they've done
Fantastic and emotionally driven video dude, bravo and thank you. ❤
I heard Smile for the first time in my military dorm in Hawaii. I quickly found a tab and learned Stef's parts. I still play it to this day
Man I love your work
This whole story is so sad yet unfortunately so Deftones-esque
Sad an powerful am taking you on a journey you didn’t know you needed. Idk if they will ever release Eros. An I’m good with that decision either way.
One Love
one love bro
I'm so happy that one of two ever recordings of Melanie is in my hometown Ventura C.A
Thanks for the video- didn’t know a fair amount of what you discussed in this video, outside of Chi and what happened. But long time fan of this band. As for releasing Eros- that’s a hard question to answer. Because for us (fans), the answer is always going to be a resounding yes. But I also think that the truth of the matter, is the music is theirs. It represents a period of time (the last period of time) where those guys were all together doing what they loved. I think it would be unfair to expect them to release the album as it was- and it would be incredibly hard for them to finish it without Chi. Those guys have been asked if they’re going to release that album so many times- I personally would have to believe that at a point, it almost would have been better to just say “no”. Then, if the guys change their mind- cool. If not- respect that too. I guess if I had to choose, I’d say this. If we look in the mirror, and recognize how powerful music is, the emotion it invokes in all of us…..then those of us that have made music with friends together (and even those who haven’t)- should have some sense of how powerful that feeling is amongst the people who made the songs together, created those songs together, and then something happens to one of your closest friends who was a part of that. If I’m being honest, I’d want to hold that close to me and my band mates hearts. For us. Maybe that’s selfish- and so be it. Plus I’d just my opinion, which matters none lol. One thing that’s undeniable though, is that they’re still together, making music- and it’s always been fresh, and relevant to where they’re at in that space in time. Going back to work on that album- or touring around it- I don’t think I’d want to do. Then again- if they hated being asked so much; you’d think they would just say “we’re not going to release it, here’s why, etc. Next question please.” And they seem to be unwilling to shut the door on it. Which I also understand too. Who would want to shut that door. Knowing what’s in the room behind it? Bottom line- I think they should do exactly what they want with it. And to a certain point- so far, I think they kind of have. 🤷♂️ thanks again for the video.
A band that was up against odds, Had a loyal fan base, still does, , should keep making music. I always hailed them as my favorite
beautiful documentary, thank you, R.I.P Chi
The first time I heard smile was a few years after being released but it was like Christmas morning to me once I knew it existed. I'm sure it went around 30 times.
This is my first time watching this 2023 deftones 🙌
I see Nocturne and Deftones, I press play - no question.
can i just say something i really like ur videos man it feels like no one else does deftones type essay vids on here rock on 🤘🤘
thanks for the support!
I really just want this album for the Kurt Travis feature. How amazing would that be to have a Kurt Travis feature on a deftones song?
I was born the same month and year as chino , June 1973, and almost around the same day .
Almost forgot to comment on one of your videos. For shame. I still periodically watch the Dallas footage and love the instrumental like it's a complete song. The band will forever miss Chi's backing screams - my brain still fills the final part of Feiticeira with them like the live versions.
my bro! i was hoping i would hear from you. in addition to dallas i rarely play smile. probably out of reverence or something idk
I was at work and kina depressed about something and heard Smile & started smiling again
I never knew what had happened to deftones . Thanks for making this informative video
Blows my mind that Deftones and Dir En Grey toured together
This video makes me so emotional! Thank you 🖤 Need to go and listen to some Smile
mission accomplished
I hope they'll release it one beautiful day... I want to be there, when it happens.
"spirits are high, and so is steph"
Some of the demos have leaked and it's clear that they reworked a lot of the songs to be put on diamond eyes
I met Chi in Chicago and he was such a nice guy and I was drunk as fuck but he shook hands with me and I made him laugh. It was a good night.
I love these deftones videos. Im starting to love the band even more❤🎉
THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO😭 we need eros to release and fuck the label who is surely the main cause it has been finished and out yet
YES! and frankly I'm tired of this new wave they been on since KNY; I hope this new album coming next year has actually great songwriting, lyrics I can feel and not such a damn muddy mix
Eros is the God of Love.
also a little thing you could have added is the semi-official album cover of Eros, i have two video on my channel with it
true but for whatever reason i went with the animated paintings instead
@@NocturneMusic they were really nice! i think you best captured the kind of atmosphere of eros
@@ssbottudos467 aight dope im glad u liked it
Great video. Thanks. 1💚
Goosebumps and teary eyed - Thank you for this. A lot of information I wasn't aware of, you've really done good research.
I was home when I happenstancingly (definitely not a word) found "smile" and I lived with it for weeks on end. I haven't listened to it for a while because it's so emotion invoking. I would love for them to slowly release what is done but when the time is right of course.
it was a similar thing for me. i can only play smile on a special occasion. maybe. it's so sentimental
I actually saw them with Dir En Grey back then. Korn might have even been there too or Flyleaf. It was in Maryland I believe.
Great video mane
this is insanely good
great video, very touching! could you do one on diamond eyes please 🙏🏾
ive been waiting for this one
Love these vídeos. Are You going to make more for the band?
Eros would've been their magnum opus.
hmmm its possible
possibly but i don’t think they could ever top white pony.
Wished I could have seen them with The Fall of Troy
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Got to see this live in my hometown and it was awesome!
Amen Bro
great fucking video nocturne‼️‼️ keep up the good work man
First time I heard Smile I was at work in a Cafeteria with my headphones.
Saw the title and thought this was going to be a beach boys video.
Yet to be released*
What about Head Automatica - Swan Damage?
Where did you get all the naked angel imagery from?
yo my new favorite forkin channel
wtf almost all my most liked bands arer here
welcome to the party lol
didnt they recently release a song called "tempest"?
yeah its on koi no yokan. maybe "trempest" as chi called it got reworked and changed to tempest
@@NocturneMusic I think they just misheard him
Top tier UA-camr
thanks bro
Were you on sharinglungs?
more so back in the day but with a different name
You know what the real tragedy of Eros is? Is gonna be released unfinished if they don't finish it. Warner owns it, and when these guys pass away this is gonna be the final cash cow that get milked to no end. So either they finish it and release it on their terms for themselves or the Corp releases it as a soulless cash grab
Wait, didn't Diamond Eyes come out sometime in 2010? So you mentioned that Chi passed away in 2013. Idk i have to rewatch i guess. I remember that when KNY dropped in 2012, it was amazing and it really seemed to me like every album Deftones ever released was somehow synched with my life. I guess until Gore. The last record they did, just seemed totally off to me. The single was dope but listening to the whole album was a huge disappointment. I can only hope we get one final amazing Deftones album before it's too late. Ohms was not that good.
people are barely finding this out?
I am almost certain Eros is not better than Diamond Eyes. Probably even Ohms as well.
i don't really mess with deftones, but this video was very good
I think it's about time for EROS to be released, even if it's just as an EP. I think it would go a ways to help them get over their grieving, which to be honest, I think has been over-sentimental and over-done by now. We have to all come to terms with death, but the way that people have gone on and on about Chi Cheng is almost as if they knew him personally. It's not like the death of Cornell, Layne or Weiland. They were actually personally impactful, but Deftones collectively have gone overboard with the Cheng worship. Having said that, I firmly believe they did Sergio wrong by not offering him a permanent position. I think that is a lot to do with them giving the bassists' funds to Cheng's family. Let's be real. It's not like Cheng was on tour when he died. He died without a seatbelt on. Something that kids are taught to wear. So to the original point, releasing EROS will help the band get over it and move on. No use punishing people alive, ie. Sergio, for the acts of those who are dead. The hubris of Chino should be held in check.
uhh huh...
@@cris79667 yeah uh huh to you
@@G-Man01 guess you don't really like chi?
@@cris79667 I respect him for what he's done but I think he's been an ass towards Sergio.
I think this project is way overhyped. People are expecting it to be a shelved masterpiece, it's probably just unfinished and half-baked. Smile was good, Melanie is like a copy of Rats!Rats!Rats!, not too impressive. That Dallas jam is also pretty cool.
There’s not even any music 😂 deftones never fails to disappoint
✊🏾🐐🖤
💚❤️💛🖤
One day a band will arise and refuse to cover one eye. Only then will we finnaly have the heros we need but do not deserve. Im so sick of finding my favorite bands in tons of pictures with one eye covered, signifying their selling of their souls. Then maybe the entire band will cross the finish line together without missing one or more members. Don't act like it's not true. I've been in the industry for long enough to know the facts. And this fact is one that sucks the most.
I still think they should release it. It’s the last piece of Chi that they could share with us. A little selfish, really…
It is appalling that we got the most recent update on a new album via a Flat Earther channel. Like ever fly a fucking plane? Lol
this isn't talked about enough
*promo sm*
beautiful video
keep it up dude