Catamaran vs Monohull - What Previous Monohull Sailors Say
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2020
- Terry and Dena Singh, catamaran owners who previously owned 3 monohulls, join Stephen Cockcroft of Catamaraman Guru. They discuss the pros and cons of catamarans and monohulls and why they changed to a catamaran. Learn more about the plusses and minuses of cats and monohulls at catamaranguru.com/catamarans/... Did you know Stephen and Estelle of Catamaran Guru were also previous monohull sailors?
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We have a Bali 4.2 in sailing school and a Bali 5.4 that we live on. The quality is good and getting better.
Good points.
Stuart, there are many other good arguments to be made for catamarans but to be fair, there are a few negatives. This article discusses all that and more catamaranguru.com/catamarans/why-a-catamaran/catamaran-vs-monohull-we-changed-should-you
Which Bali did you have? How has been the quality in terms of workmanship and reliability?
I wonder what they think now about their production catamaran after all these Lagoon bulkhead issues, especially the Lagoon 450.
While the bulkheads on the L450 is an annoyance, it is fixable. Some bulkheads are worse than others. So far our owners have all been able to have the repair done fairly quickly. We still think that this particular model is one of the best couples production catamarans out there. I guess time will tell how this shakes out but for us personally, it is not a deal breaker.
Speak to the comparison if high latitude sailing can be done comfortably. Can a Catamaran sail 60N 30W
The more pertinent question might be whether humans can survive that. LOL A monohull might be more suited for this but the Australians and South Africans (that's us) sail cats in our neck of the woods all the time. The cats are typically lower profile boats, i.e. Schionning to reduce windage.
Which one handles big water, things like large swells and aggressive weather better?
what are the hazards while sailing a catamaran?
The fellow on the left said that if the weather is really hairy he would rather be in a mono. The biggest risk to a cat would be capsizing. With mono's you can tip over and right yourself back up, if you tip in a cat it's game over. I'm very torn between what to get. Both have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your rudder in a monohull you can't steer, cat's have 2 rudders and 2 engines so you have lots of options to steer unless you strike rocks and lose your engines and rudders. Sailing into freedom had that happen and they lost their cat. Really worth watching their video to see their experience. Their boat did eventually sink. Their new ship is a monohull that has a crazy thick hull, like 2 inches thick.
Monohulls handle weather better, but cats can outmaneuver weather better…. I’d rather avoid those bad situations… also with bigger cats, your more likely to be dismasted than capsize.
One hazard to consider between the two is where you’ll be sailing. Often a mono will be narrower and can fit through gaps better, but they have deeper drafts and could bottom out more easily. The cat can go in shallow places, but has to clear both hulls through the shallows (reefs/bars/shoals can be tricky for either).
Cats will also go through standing rigging faster and have more potential structural issues due to the constant, massive push-pull force between the two hulls. Like a harp, it’s pressures while in the water work to destroy itself in time.
@@It-b-Blair Cats are not out maneuvering any weather.
Un voilier dans l'eau, qu'il soit multi ou mono passera plus de 80% de son temps au port ou au mouillage... Les 20% restant sont en moyenne composé de 3% de navigation à la barre et 17% au pilote auto.
Donc, si on considère que la cata est nettement plus agréable que le mono au mouillage (plus de place, pas ou peu de tangage, etc) et que le plaisir de barrer est inexistant lorsque on est au pilote, il reste effectivement 3% du temps passé à la barre durant lequel il sera souvent plus agréable de barrer le mono que le cata, souvent bien avare en sensations.
Reste le sujet du prix : Dans la vidéo il est dit qu'à taille égale le mono est moins cher.... Mais si on compare un cata et un mono qui propose la même surface de vie, les prix se resserent... Pareils pour les ports : Il y a 10 ans, la différence de prix était un frein, mais de nos jours les ports ayant bien compris le succès du cata, les prix ont tendance à se rapprocher du mono, certains ports ayant même commencé à privilégier les cata.
Bref, c'est surtout un question de goût... Pour ma part, vivre en biais et à la cave j'ai donné ! Manger de travers, dormir de travers, cuisiner de travers, se doucher de travers, faire ses besoins de travers, être les uns sur les autres et sans aucune intimité, j'ai donné !
Et puis il y en a qui vont venir avec l'argument de la remontée au près serré difficile pour les cata..... Mouarf, d'une part les cata modernes sont bien meilleurs dans l'exercice, mais comme le multi va nettement plus vite dans toutes les autres conditions, l'argnument ne servira que pour les béotiens !
A noter aussi que sur 10 marins qui sont passé du mono au cata, moins de 2 sont revenus au mono..... A bon entendeur !
Bref, pour le grand voyage, vive le cata !
on n'aurait pas pu mieux dire ! merci pour la super explication
i watch a lot of sailing videos...the cats seem to do a whole lot more motoring than the monohulls..even on longpassages across Oceans it seems they motor for days on end...whereas it seems the monohulls sail much more..2 examples would be UMA and Atticus..
Nicky there is no difference in vessel type for sailing ability. Both monos and cats are VERY capable of sailing everywhere. If people don't sail their cats, it is because they are either lazy and just "want to get there" or they don't have the skills to sail the vessel properly. As an example, Stephen and I sailed our Bali 5.4 cat across the Atlantic, 3000NM and used all of 50 Gals of fuel, mainly for the generator to charge batteries, motoring in and out of the harbors etc. Having lived abroad for the last 30 years, this has been pretty much true for us in most cases unless we have to rush to get somewhere or to get out of a weather system.
@@Catamaranguru Agree. My cat is light and i dont carry a lot of fuel (have an outboard) if the wind drops. We wait.
mono real sailing, cat floating loft and for the price of a cat you can buy a significally longer mono
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Shall we continue or do you see how irrelevant that opinion is yet?
@@It-b-Blair I've created a monster, Lol!!😂
For me, the only reason why l would never go to a catamaran is that Monohull has a keel and even if it's flipped over monohull will return back in a normal position where Catamaran will never do that.
You are correct that a monohull will right itself if rolled but the consequence of the roll would probably be a dismasting and cause severe disruption to the vessel inside and out. The self righting, while desirable would occur in extreme conditions and is not quite as simple as stated. Bear in mind that a Monohull has a lead or iron ballast that is constantly trying to drag it to the bottom of the ocean, if it springs a leak it is game over. A catamaran will not sink like a stone and will generally remain afloat under almost any conditions - the saying that a catamaran reaches it most stable position when upside down springs to mind. To summarize both types of vessel have advantages and disadvantages - some will choose self righting while others will choose buoyancy and not sinking if the hull is breached or capsized. Both situations present survival issues and the best situation is to not be in weather that could cause this sort of catastrophic event on either type of vessel - the advantage of a catamaran is that it can run from weather since they are generally much faster than similar sized monohulls while the Monohull can heave to in bad weather better than a catamaran - in the end it is about personal choice and not sides of the issues opinions should be respected.
And wehen roll over i guarantee water Takte in and your boat will sink where a Cat can not sink even when up side down. So no thanks the cat wins this one by far.
Yeah multis just lack that finality - of sinking. Most monos will roll right around, most mutlis wont flip, esp if sailed properly, but it can happen. just as monos can sink. Have a look at the stats - more monos sink than cats.
@@Catamaranguru "A catamaran can run from bad weather" is pure bull.
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP Tom, again - that "chick" just so happened to have sailed around the world and she has a great deal of experience on sailboats. Be that as it may, cats can generally out run predicted bad weather. With modern technology and good weather prediction, that can easily be done and that is what she was referring to. Seldom can you outrun sudden squalls or bad weather in the middle of the ocean unless you have some warning. But in general terms, we have sailed out of the way of weather many times on our cat as we are actually doing right now as we speak. I am on Starlink and we can see the weather coming and are currently sailing on our Catana at between 10-12 knots north to get ahead of a storm. We will be in port well ahead of the storm. If we had been on our 45ft monohull which averaged about 5 knots, we would have had to hunker down much sooner or ride out the storm in the ocean somewhere.
These people are clueless. That chick just said a Cat is so fast you can just get out of the way of bad weather. LOLOLOLOL!!
Tom that "chick" just so happened to have sailed around the world and she has a great deal of experience on sailboats. Be that as it may, cats can generally out run predicted bad weather. With modern technology and good weather prediction, that can easily be done and that is what she was referring to. Seldom can you outrun sudden squalls or bad weather in the middle of the ocean unless you have some warning. But in general terms, we have sailed out of the way of weather many times on our cat as we are actually doing right now as we speak. I am on Starlink and we can see the weather coming and are currently sailing on our Catana at between 10-12 knots north to get ahead of a storm. We will be in port well ahead of the storm. If we had been on our 45ft monohull which averaged about 5 knots, we would have had to hunker down much sooner or ride out the storm in the ocean somewhere.