Don’t Build a Gaming PC, Do this Instead!
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2022
- Today we buy a RX 6600 graphics card, which is a great gaming card, BUT we pair it with an older prebuilt that is incredibly cheap! We then try the same card in a brand new gaming system that we built for as cheap as possible to see what the price Vs. performance differences are!
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This is why I like these guys. They are really there at the budget side showing what's possible, and why building a budget PC vs modding an old office PC does cost more.
The reason the $600 PC did better was the RGB, RGB always increases FPS.
The real reason the custom is better than the pre built is because... Dude!!! Who the fuck wants a Dell?
@@voldem0rt LOL True.
do you think the i5 will be the same or do i need the i7
True
@@IDontKnowLuis try to go for a newer model. 6th gen Intel processors are not worth it in 2023. Try to get a 8th gen or higher. The Intel i7 7th gen is still decent and will offer good performance, but the i5 8th gen is still marginally better.
For a LONG time I was running a 2nd and 4th gen Optiplex as spare gaming rigs with gtx 1650s and they were EXCELLENT value for money. Sometimes when you have 200-400 to spend, it's better to upgrade an existing used PC.
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Very true… these gen cpu are very expensive if you in a budget you could go for a i5 4590 will do just fine with a gtx 1660ti or 2060 no more than that cause probably the cpu will be bottleneck but overall 1080p-1440p sweet budget spot
I just recently built my current rig for 400 euros (and that's with the very bad market conditions). It has a ryzen 5 3600, 16gb of ram, 256gb nvme ssd, 1tb hdd, and most importantly, a gtx 1070 strix.
@@matthijsvandeweerd1415 That is actually a pretty beefy setup!
I put a video card (1050ti) in a SFF optiplex by cutting a slot in the side panel with a dremel tool, lining it with door insulation, screwing angle brackets underneath it and setting the GPU on a riser shelf on the angle brackets with the cable going through the slot
I really like your video, it was a realistic comparison. By using the same GPU we get a true review of how the compute and I/O hardware can impact price/performance. thanks.
Entertaining video. You guys should run a test using the exact same components across both computers ( GPU, CPU, NVME, RAM ) in order to isolate each motherboard's bottlenecks. I feel like that's the true question between these two build methods.
I've got the Optiplex 7040 SFF with the same specs and its still very capable in 2022. Love that you guys keep the budget builds on the channel just as much as the over the top ones!!! I'm awaiting my RX6400 to complete my budget build 😎. Keep them coming guys.
The 6400 is really bad bro go 6500 at least or 3050
@@mudzy9820 thanks for the recommendation bro! My Optiplex SFF case cant fit anything larger than a single lane low profile gpu unfortunately 😭. Will have to wait till a save up for my full build to get a decent card.
@@Klark0751 have you ever think about using a pcie riser?
@@marcorill1670 Yes definitely, that would open up my graphics card options but the limitation with the SFF optiplex is that it doesn’t have regular 6 pin power.
So any card I install has to be run off the pcie slot power. That mostly leaves options like the gtx 1650 or the rx 6400 and older gpus.
I finally got my 6400 and its been great so far. E sports titles at 110 to 120fps medium settings and even a few newer triple A titles run alright.
And it all cost me $350
@@Klark0751 great, enjoy
Wasn't a desktop but I picked up a Lenovo Thinkpad yoga laptop that had a 7th gen i7 and a thunderbolt port. Got good deal on an EVGA 2060 and on a zotac amp box. I usually play league of legends and it gets anywhere between 130 - 180 FPS maxed settings at 4k. Still doing more tests but very happy with it's performance.
Optiplexes are pretty neat. I have a gtx 970 with a 500w psu, and an i7-3770. Pretty neat.
I have build a game pc with a GTX 970 recently, to sell online with a 500w psu Coolermaster that came with the coolermaster case. Suprisingly it came with 2 6+2 pins. I wanted to build something with a first gen i7 just to have done it. It srtill needs a bettrer cooler thogh.
I have a dell with an i7 4th gen and gtx 1070. Runs new stuff decently still but my 1070 is being bottlenecked quite a bit especially when I tried to play spiderman miles morales recently
pretty neat
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Guys, love your videos. I’m very curious how much difference you’d notice with the games on the optiplex installed on an SSD. I’m assuming because of the limited storage on the main nvme, you installed all of the benchmark games on the hdd. In my experience, this makes a noticeable difference. I’m just wondering if it would have given even more of a nod to the optiplex.
Fantastic Video As Always Keep Them Coming!
Upgraded two Dell Optiplex PCs a few years ago and they have no issues playing any modern games I throw at them including VR tittles. Total cost at the time for each PC and their upgrades was around $450.
did you upgrade psu? What card do you have in them?
similarly i needed to replace my UNRAID server at home and I put it in a HP Z4 G4 workstation. super cheap and it rocks
Good video decided to build my first custom pc with similar specs
Each method has it's value depening on your needs and budget
Back in 2010 as a poor grad student, I bought a used Dell desktop from the Dell Outlet online for about $300. Literally just added more RAM. Solid gaming and even managed to do some streaming at the same time. Ran with it for 5+ years. Was it old by then? Yes. But totally worth it on a budget. I highly recommend this method (adding a rx6600/rtx3050 maybe) if you want some good 1080p gaming! Enjoy it.
I’m needing more information I’m looking to do same
I've gone a slightly different way. I've bought a new Dell Precision 3660 Tower and am gradually going to turn it into a gaming beast beast as I go.
I've done custom builds and prebuilds. Prebuilds get my vote because they're cost effective, engineered to work as a unit, parts are readily available and they're designed to run Windows flawlessly. Driver are no problem too. For a hassle free cost effective system, prebuilts win easily.
Cool video concept, not just comparing a PC at the same price point (which would obviously lose). I personally buy these 7040 MTs because they are one of the few DDR4 RAM motherboards dell makes but I only use 1050 Ti's in them because of heat. When I want to do a little more upgrading I use a Dell Precision 3620 which offers a little more room and pretty much the same internals. It's a lot easier to upgrade the PSU, GPU and other parts as well as having a few more vent holes for heat. Love seeing videos with these Dells though. Cheers.
Office gaming pc is the best 1st gaming pc. Cheap, easy to do, and dips your toes into getting comfortable inside the PC. Ideally finding one that has a standard ATX PS and/or Case would be helpful. Wish they all were standard ATX.
My rig is a dell inspiron I found for 20 bucks. It came with a i5 8400 12gb ram and a 1tb hdd. Sold the hdd for 20 bought a 20 dollar stick of 8gb ram to bump to 16gb, 100 dollar 1tb nvme and 110 gtx 1650 oc from asus. Does really well
Nice
8th gen is when cpus got way better that i5 could handle like a 2070
@@daytimerocker3808 only limited by the power supply
Honestly I've built a new PC 3070 r5 5600x and goes great but it's just no where near as satisfying as doing something like this or even just buying nearly all used parts for dirt cheap and getting decent fps in the games you love. I'm still playing at 1080p so I could still do this but too use to the high frames now. I was gonna get a 12 core xeon and 1080ti instead for the build I wish I had
@@mudzy9820 i had an x58 xeon with a 1080 for a long time was all used parts got the x58 pc for 50 added an x5690 and 1080 and im good to go
I have this exact setup with my Optiplex (Minus the power supply which I upgraded with an EVGA 450W) I'm super happy with the performance so far. I got the dell Optiplex in a trade for with an Xbox one s, and the bought the graphics card second-hand. so accounting for the value of the Xbox plus what I paid for the GPU im in only $350 for a sweet 1080p medium/high settings machine.
What is the graphics card that you bought?
@@monkeywheel5522 Power Color RX6600
@@matthewcale8037 the RX6000 series is pretty great value for money
what kind of power supply did you get to fit into that optiplex box?
@@kngharv EVGA superNOVA 450 GM 80+ Gold SFX. Did take a little modification to have it bolt up right.
The thing is with the new parts at least your getting warranty from reputable companies whereas the optiplex is used and you won't get a warranty from dell
I went the Lenovo route so got a ryzen 3 2200g. 256 nvme and 1tb hd. Upgraded to 16gb ram currently using a pro wx2100 (4gb Rx 550 wouldn't work). Not the greatest system but less than £200
Great video guys. I have a Dell Precision T7100 that i have converted to a gaming rig. Cpu E3 1270 v3, 16gb ram at 1600 with an RTX 2060, i am so proud of my build. I get 60fps in all my games 1080p high/max settings in AAA titles.
Cpu bottleneck
Correct. I get bottlenecks in certain games but there is a way to work around it by using Dlss or Fsr. Helps with taking pressure away from cpu but other then that 99% of the games i play i get a 60-80fps experience.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152 if you play e sports titles then what settings do you use?
Low/medium
Alright, i have a old laptop that has
- 4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
- intel core i3 2350m
- GeForce 315m
- 500 gb hdd
It is old and slow
I got the i3 as a placeholder for my system upgrade and am very impressed by its performance.
Found a 9020 in the trash. Added an ssd fired it up and it surprised me. I have an old HP Z440 as well. It goes hard.
Of course I will go with the custom build. It has better airflow and newer parts.
I love my Optiplex i am in sudamerica (Venezuela) and with 450 usd aprox i get a Optiplex 9020 with a i7 2600, 16 gb ddr3 ram, a ssd of 512 gb and a rx 580 nitro 4gb that lets me play anything over 60 fps, in comparation a PS5 in my country sell in 1200 USD , of course it was a process to getr all the parts and build the pc but i am very happy with the performance even if is somewhat slow because of the type of ram
I would try to get a 4th gen chip optiex if that’s possible but other than that good combo and very reasonable prize for southamerican standards!
@@dricebaker6594 Whe are soo behind that the more new optiplex dont exist in my country market, by the general standar my rig is top of budget gaming lol
@@MrRaheninm ow shoot, Im sorry. Well still a very capable machine you got there, Have fun!
@@dricebaker6594 dont worry men we all have things better than others in this world i am grateful of what i have and in the end of day i love tech even if i cant have all i want have a god day
X2 soy de latam igualmente y bueno... Trabajo estable y tal, pero mi salario es bastante bajo y tengo otras prioridades como es pagar mi renta y comprar comida, por lo que armar una pc saldría demasiado caro. Pero ahora que estoy viendo elundo de las optiplex
Specifics on the optiplex used?? Would want to make sure my first build is 100% going to work
I get the concept, but wouldn’t this comparison be more accurate if you spent the same amount on both pc’s?
You can't. When you can get an Optiplex for $100 with 8gb ram, and sata ssd, and windows. How you going to put together a new component pc cheaper than that?
@@frogslayer4849 cpu and mobo bundle, case from black friday, 2.5 ssd internal black friday. Lots of deals
@@eligoodenough1119 right, and reuse an e waste case w/psu and you could probably build a 3000 series with that same rx6600 for about 350
@@frogslayer4849 thats the point, they’re comparing completely different price ranges. Its like if i were to make a video called $500 pc vs $1000 pc and then said an $1000 pc was better even tho it’s entirely different pricing. Like no duh its better, thats what the economy is for
Yeah
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I just built a budget PC for a friend. Requested something that could play at 1080p low 60+ fps for as close to $200 as possible. Opted for an Inspiron with an i5 8500, older Corsair power supply (original unit was only 230W and had no PCIe power), came with 16GB dual channel RAM, added a 500GB SATA SSD I had laying around, and an HP OEM GTX 1650 Super. Came out to about $180 total. I love the budget builds you guys do! It's given me the ability to help others get into it that think the barrier to entry is too high. Hoping to start selling some budget builds in my local area, seems a lot of people are interested in PC gaming, but too many of them think you have to drop $1000 to get a decent gaming computer.
My spare computer is a optiplex 3020 and i was super surprised with how well it did for an old pc. My limiting factor right now is the graphics card i had laying around though.
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My main thought while watching this is if you upgraded the GPU and the Case you’re almost golden to move everything over and have near-similar specs for the same price I don’t think it would look as good though due to the green on the motherboard as opposed to the black on the custom
the exact question I had. Mod a office PC or build a new one. Time to see!
Interesting it seemed in a quote a few games the optiplex didn't appear to be CPU bottlenecked. Wonder if it was slower ram speed holding it back ? Unfortunately nothing that can be sorted as the old optiplex wouldn't run faster ram.
I think the optiplex is really good if you're going with a lower end GPU, eg. a 2nd hand gtx 1070. Then the differences in performance between the new and optiplex build will be even less.
Have you considered the ryzen 5 5500 and a b450 (with a bios update) or b550 motherboard as a good budget option to rival the 12100 ?
240 Watt Power Supply in that Optiplex 7040. Amazed it was able to power that RX 6600.
The 6600 has a tdp of 135 w the opyiplex can handle up to a 150w tdp😊
What were the specs on the ram for the optiplex? Would upgrading the ram boost stats?
Take into consideration how hot it gets where you live. Small case has a horrible ventilation and adding fans pull more dust to the grill that does not have a dust filter. Your choice of video card will be very limited. Measure twice before you purchase your video card. I built and sold entry gaming pc using pre built and it worked well. But nothing beats a glass side panel case, enough fans and a little led/RGB if you can afford it.
I use the HP Pavillion pc with is still good.
RTX 2060
Ryzen 5 3500
32 GB Ram
Windows 11
Runs like Butter
I recommend upgrading your cpu cause that will bottleneck
get something like a ryzen 7 3700x
@@Monolitus7 i dunno don't think it will bottle neck it maybe at most a few %
Hi! You've inspired me to buy a 7040 MT. I was wondering what power supply the dell was using. Is it the one it comes with? I've read some stuff saying you need to change the power supply to use a gpu in the optiplex and don't know what to think.
Loved this video. I am looking to replace my old PC. I want a PC I can play WOT on, but I want to spend the least amount of money possible. I don't need amazing graphics, just good graphics, and speed.
There's nothing wrong with an Optiplex if you can get it cheap enough to upgrade a bit. Great value for relatively little money.
I like the Optiplex 7050 as it had the ability for wifi connection but not so many of them available as the 7040
I find when you do the refurb from Office computer you need to update Ram storage and video card. So there's a little more involved than just slapping a new video card in.
Yup, usually a power supply upgrade is necessary at the very least. Adding memory is usually necessary. Also, I could not fit an RTX2060 in a mid tower optiplex, but it fit in a microatx precision case.
The 6600 is fine with the power supply in the optiplex? Those are 180-240W and I thought the 6600 requires a 450w PSU.
i think by matching with the same processor ,would have been great comparising
Zack was going through so much at 4:40😂😂😂
Coincidentally I recenly bought an Optiplex 390 with an i5 (which turned out to be an i7) 8GB ram, 1TB Spinning rust, Bought a cheap entry level NVIDA730 with 4GB and have been very pleased with it for the old games I play (think unreal tournament era), The whole lot cost me around £120 which is a bargain IMO.
I'd say..it would've been a better comparison if they put in all (except the gpu) used components as the optiplex is all used parts anyway. Price would've been closer i reckon..
Got two Optiplexs'. Both 9020s. One is a MT with an i7 4790 3.6 ghz. The other is a SFF i7 4770 a 3.4 ghz. The MT sports an RTX 2060. (Yes, I replaced the PS, A Corsair CX 750m and with an adapter for the non-standard power connector on the Dell mb.) The SFF sports an RTX A2000. They're both great. Much as I like the SFF PC, the MT stays cooler and can actually boost to 100%CPU without going over 80c. (No, the SFF will start thermal throttle if running up the cores to 100%. But you'll probably never notice gaming.) Yeah, if paying attention and looking for it both 9020s will "lag spike" every once in a while, loading . . . something or other. Many people might never notice. If I told you you were gaming on my Ryzen 9 PC instead of the Optiplex many people would probably believe it. I've been using the Opti's quite a bit more than my Ryzen 9 because the Optiplexs' are on a large TV. Yeah, these are for chilling out with 8bitdo Pro2 controllers. (Get a8bitdo's branded wireless dongle AND someone else's bluetooth 4.0 dongle. PRESTO. You like more than one wireless controller?) And trusty Logitech k400s. You bet, reclining and gaming is awesome. These Optiplexs' can do more, but ALL I need them to be able to do a solid 1080p 60 FPS. That's what the TV likes, and the Optis' do it well. The i7 4790 makes a difference by the way. Guess what. It boosts and STAYS boosted. (Don't ask me. I thought these had that boost timer nonsense.) Yeah, we'll get back to you one of these days, Ryzen 9. Better posture sitting up at a desk is good, right? I know I'm glad I decided to stick something that can game on the TV! Excuse me while I recline! PC speaker? Nahh. How about Dynaudio speakers on a home stereo. Boom boom!
did uou end up using the sata to pcie adapter to power the 6600 in the optiplex?
Did the exact thing with a Intel Optiplex 9010 spend about $500 for the whole build works great
You cannot beat the right Optiplex. I got a 3010 MT which is able to house a mATX motherboard. I bought the optiplex from a blind charity for $50, which got me a case, front USB, cd drive, and a WD500gb. I threw in a PSU, b450, R5 1600af, and rx 570 for about $300 all in all and it worked so great, no issues except rewiring the Dell power button to work on a normal motherboard.
I got bored fo gaming and eventually swapped to just a 5700G in a custom case made of aluminum pans for small form factor and now I am now on a new mini pc powered by USB c pd battery kick, because I love small form factor, and lower wattage with the APU, plus dont game and travel a lot. I essentially pulled all of the e-waste from the optiplex and recycled the case, because $50 is a good entry case and pays for itself since I got to keep windows and no one wanted to buy it for $30 on craigslist lol.
Actually got modded optiplex 3040 myself. Upgrade psu for more power for gpu and added 2060ti. It does overheat more then you want it to around 70-80 degree. One thing to do front cover were the vents are, you can take the top portion out and remove the black piece so it’s an actual vent helps a little bit. Since there are no hdd in mine, I am thinking about mounting a fan there but I use this PC either for controller based gaming on big TV and yes I did add a wifi and Bluetooth card or for streaming which is my main purpose of this build. Got a whole kodi setup
Buying the F SKU i3 only saves you $7 to $15 USD and leaves you without a second GPU that can be used for troubleshooting display issues, or dedicated to encoding a stream so you don't have to put that overhead on your dedicated GPU for more intensive games.
1st let me say I love these videos. I had not built a pc in 10 years, and your videos got me back in to it.
My first step in was to buy and upgrade an Optiplex. It was fun. I have done it several more times for friends and my nephews. I even molded the case and added rgb on a few.
Then I did a 10100f build. It works somewhat better and has quite an upgrade path.
Both are fun. Both are worth doing. I think it still comes down to what you can afford, or are willing to spend.
Thanks for the inspiration!
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@@supersonic22_YT Yupp. Hope nobody replies to that stuff.
Still glad my Optplex plays everything I need it too. It's got some older hardware, but it hasn't given me a reason to upgrade yet. Inten Xeon E3-1230 V2 CPU and an RX 580 8GB GPU.
Did you have to cusnge the power supply coz sure it needs atleast 450w
@@KushiChabarwa-lh1uu Yes i swapped the old one out with a 550w PSU. Didn't need that much power but I got it because I knew one day use it when I built a new pc to replace my Optiplex.
I don't know how long you ran this unit but did you have any issues with the rx 6600 with the pcie adaptors? My 7050 MT has the 6pin from factory and I want to convert it to 8pin to run a rx 6600.
Is there a nice easy build out there for moderate gaming and run window 11 for when I'm working? (my job requires win 11)
It would be interesting to run this back against, say, a Ryzen 5 5500, if you haven't already (1st time viewer). You might get an additional performance boost from Smart Access Memory, over the 12100F
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Dell optiplexes are great my school got some new pcs and they were selling of the old optiplexes for $50 AUD each which is a bargain. the pc is decent aswell mine came with 8gb ram, 120gb ssd, a core i7 4770 and a raedon gpu
So about 2 and 1/2 years ago I went the optiplex route and I used it for gaming and it worked okay. Had the same exact computer but I put a 3060 EVGA ended up using it to do some mining too and burned up the mb.
Replaced the PSU initially thinking that's what was wrong with it.
3060 draws more power and mining was the issue I'm sure tho.
Amazon raised the price of that pc case earlier, I was like why? Now I know
Not sure if you care so much about this but some criticism I'd like to share is the fact that while I love your videos, especially given the budget perspective (compared to other youtubers), I wish you guys parsed your videos much more with timestamps. It's dreadful to see a 17 min video not knowing where whatever is.
Again, love your videos though! Great value perspective.
I've got a Optiplex 7010 running a GTX 1050; it's a solid little gamer.
IS there a amazon link to the Dell Optiplex> All i find are MICRO tower. I want the exact one you show.
a good bit of tearing and mictostutter on Tomb Raider bench
even an i5 ivy bridge processoe are still very capable gaming cpus. The only thing you will have to invest first is a beefy gpu that can handle 60fps on 1080p at least
Exactly what I'm doing except with a 3020 mt bought it for £35 and getting some upgrades costing around £190 altogether with a rx 590
Very good video, but i have any question about it.
I already have an optiplex 7050 with a core i5 7600 an a nvidia gt 1030, the psu isn’t very much powerful and the gpus that go properly need to have a small tdp.
This rx 6600 needs a extra power cable and i my “opti” i don’t have it.
The gpu that i want to buy early is rx 6400 that don’t need extra power but is less powerful than rx 6600.
Can you explain to me how can the rx 6600 function correctly i my optiplex please.
Thankyou in advance and excuse me poor english i’m spanish
Did I miss where you mentioned your resolution? I got the frame rate, but is it at 1080p or 4k?
Inspiron 3670, i7 9700, amd RX card of your choice, PSU upgrade maybe, RAM as needed.
I would recommend switching out the case for the dell optiplex. That way you don’t have to worry about whether or not you will have clearance for that gpu and it will have way better airflow.
Does it support water coling?
Indeed. I needed to go from sff elitedesk 820 G2 to mini tower ATX and after watching this video i picked barebone 7040mt for the exact same graphics card.. I still wanted to retain 2 Sata drives but with stock PSU it was impossible. Upgraded PSU to Corsair SF600. Then it turned out there was not enough clearance for GPU with 8 pin connector. Yes I could close case but it worried me it was pushing down on GPU power connector and cables so tight. I had to drill additional hole for PSU to secure it and bump up with hammer part of metal case that was closing on GPU. Took me a whole day with lot of work. Honestly I thought I would had been better off buying regular ATX with standard ATX power supply but wasn't sure if the case would be compatible for mounting and connections.
I can't believe an I3 is any good for gaming if I didn't see it. Saw a new HP laptop with a I3 that was so slow, I could write faster than typing in it. Amazing.
Video 3 of my binge ✅
I see ppl spend a lot of money on gaming PC parts just to install a game and look at the temps, fps, etc, on the overlay software and spend actually 10 to 15 minutes actually playing the game. what i wanted was PLAY games, so i picked up an i5 optiplex, gtx 1660 super, every game at medium no exception, no messing around with configs, (bc also i dont know much about it), tomb raider, horizon, god of war4, overwatch, warzone, gtav to name a few, most emulators up to ps2, i can say its a pretty enjoyable gaming experience, for the same price as a console but still a computer to work on basic day to day tasks. Thanks to your videos i found out that it was not an issue not having 1K or more to spend on a gaming computer. Thanks again!
Look at the temps as well, the home built ran much cooler than the Optiplex.
So I’d like to buy that custom build. Which version is it on your website?
Glad to see some love for aresgame. They make good psus for a budget
The ram are in the wrong slots, there's a diagram on the board that says the white tabs are the prioritized slots.
I like this dell model, does it had the same size with 3050 tower?
HP Elitedesk 800 G3...or do a comparison of office PC variants in SFF.
If you're comparing performance between two computers, it makes more sense to use games that have pre-recorded bemchmarks... or at least use the same map.
How does the optiplex do with emulation? Specifically Madden 12 on Playstation 2, would I really need an 8 core 16 thread CPU to run that?
I have a HP Pavilion what can I upgrade on it because I want a 32GB, new RAM and bigger fan for performance idk if the Fan will make a difference
What is the system you guys are using in the corner to show the fps and ram and gpu?
Always build your own. Don't let some one else build it for you. I built my own pc with no previous experience and just a few yt videos.
@DOGS LOL I guess I was fortunate then cause I did my research pick correct and premium parts and my build is 100% stable and reliable for all games. I put a r9 5900x with a 3070ti in my build and the parts work well together. I had a few issues and scares here and there but nothing I wasn't able to figure out and fix.
I have 7010 MT with (I think 3rdgen i5) blown motherboard DDR3 and blown powersupply I have collecting dust
Is it worth it even to try to find refurbished mother and add garphics card ?
I would go with the $600 because it starts off with a LGA 1700 motherboard. You can save up and get a better CPU later and just swap that out. It's upgradeable.
would you mind linking the adapter you usedon both moaex and sata ?
I feel like comparing an optiplex to all new is an OK comparison but really the better one is an optiplex to a computer made of a mix of new and used parts as makes sense for each part in a budget DIY build.
6 years ago I received an Optiplex XE from work. I lugged it around for years waiting around to do something with it. Well I did this year. I wasn't really sure what I had, but when I started working on it to get it functional, I ended up spending more money than it was worth to do so. It's good enough for web streaming and some period era games. I learned my lesson though. In hindsight, I would have put that model into the recycle bin and found a later model to work on. Keeping down the e-wastes was an important factor on why I continued with the project. The model or Dell's BIOS in it was not friendly with late model GPU's. I had to shortcut the GPU to an AMD HD 7570. Yes, I could have went with nVidia's GT 710 or something like that. I installed Windows 10 and it works fine with it. I'll later install Linux when Windows 10 falls out of support and AMD graphics seem to work more fluid with it.
this is kinda late, but the new builds using 7070 mts are crazy good for the money if you can the 7070 for under $300.
Hard to find a corporate PC with a big enough power supply for a decent graphics card.
And they are difficult to add new power supplies to.
Have a 7020 opti with a 1050ti Lp and a 9020 with a 1650 Lp for budget gaming pc when the boys come thru to game both run i7s 16g ram with ssd. Best part? Spent 225 each.