I think my favorite part about this remake is that they added more music to the game and added dynamic music to certain areas such as the shop in rogueport
I noticed this too. While adventuring through Hooktail’s castle, they added a new arrangement to the battle and victory themes. So much detail in this game.
Nah, they did. You spend more time listening to this song more than any other than the game, except maybe battle theme. So it’s appreciated that they’re both excellent songs.
I'm conflicted on how epic they made almost all of the redid tracks sound, with the really cool drums and all... On one hand, it gives the remake a different feel than the original, for sure, but on the other hand, I think the redid tracks in conjunction with the new tracks do make the remake's Soundtrack the better one overall. I really enjoy what they've done with this remake, almost all good changes and additions. Of course, it's all up to interpretation, who likes which way what version did it, and all that.
@@clouds-rb9xthow would they mess up the dialog? From what I know of the TTYD they just made occasional changes to be nicer to more groups of people (i.e. Vivian is trans in English, Luigi’s bridal moment is treated as something funny but normal rather than weird and off putting, stuff like that)
@@JuneNafziger But they went too far in their changes. Faithfulness to the original script is great. But it got to the point where the localization team was straight up just removing specific words or altering phrases for no real reason, things 99.99% of people never had a problem with in the original.
My copy hasn't cime jn yet so I decided to check out the Rogueport theme. They really did put that brass up, gave the theme a lot more oomph in the Switch remake. Kinda makes it feel like a huge "we're back" moment more than ever. Very interesting, excited to see how the other themes were changed.
I think my favorite part of this new remix is the part at 1:10, when it really starts to sound grandiose as the melody works away in the background. It’s almost as if the song itself is saying “That’s right, we’re back! We’re back and BETTER than ever!” Which is very apt for this remake as a whole, I feel
I swear, listening to the original ost and this version back to back nearly brought me to tears. I am so, so unbelievably happy this exists. This game is so gosh darn beautiful!!
Everybody's talking about the part at 1:09 (and for good reason), but can we give some appreciation to the part at 0:35 too? It fits the vibe of a town full of rogues and outlaws so well
YES, I love that part too. It puts emphasis on how grimy and sleazy Rogueport can be before working in that heroic melody there. I think it did a much better job portraying that element than the original did (which already did it really well-)
@@chippypills the opinion is how you view rogueport. Honestly, if the of played first in the prologue and the new one played later on it would be perfect. Surprised they didn’t do that
Rogueport was already in contention for my favourite hub in a Paper Mario game, but this theme alone has pushed it above Flipside for me, it's so good.
My favorite part of this entire rearrangement has to be the little flourish before the loop at around 01:46. It beautiful and ties the whole piece together. Made me cry the first time I heard it. What phenomenal remake of an already amazing theme.
Love what they did with this remix, this track backing the sleazy streets of Rougeport does a great job at setting this place up as the core central hub of Mario's adventure. It's given a new, heightened level of grandeur, excitement and mystery that the speakers of the GameCube just weren't equipped for. It really does accentuate the feeling that you could go anywhere in the world from the place wonderfully. The same very much applies to innumerable other tracks in this remake, they did a killer job with this soundtrack!
People saying this sounds loud but honestly. I'm glad it does. The original felt like a brand new adventure, but this one feels like "Yeah, WE ARE BACK!". A completely contrasts to the previous games. No more calm quiet towns with toads! There are criminals and graffiti all over town! You can get mugged or killed! Be prepared as youre about to go in an adventure of a LIFETIME!
I, for one, actually really like that this version of the song has a louder feel than the original did. This one just screams "We're back, baby!" at the top of its lungs. Perfect for our grand return to Rogueport.
I actually can't listen to the original of this without cringing omg. Like not to say it's bad, but this version goes so fucking hard by comparison. Rogueport's an awesome hub area!
Sure, the original song had a better vibe but this one has really grown on me since I first heard it. Whereas the original had a Detroit kinda vibe to it, this has more of a New York or Chicago vibe, more bustling than sketchy
i know this theme doesnt fit the vibe of rogueport quite as well as the original, but it's my favourite version regardless. i love its bombastic nature, and i find it playing in my head a lot and it makes me really happy. it, like many of the tracks in this game, feel like a celebration of the revival of paper mario's original and objectively true form.
How could anyone possibly think the old version is better?? I haven't played the original, but I listened to this song in the original game soundtrack, and it is honestly so bad in comparison to this. There's no way anyone who likes the original better likes it for any reason other than nostalgia.
I do not like this. Way too loud and busy for a run-down dirty crime-ridden port city. Luckily, you can still have the original music playing if you want, and people seem to still like this version so I'm happy.
it definitely sounds more battle theme-esque/grand compared to the original's more relaxed or eased tone, relatively speaking; I love the way the original tells a story in its progression: it starts triumphant and filled (0:00 - 0:35), as if to signal arriving in a strange new crowded place filled with strange faces on an adventure, then eases itself into being less pronounced (0:36 - 1:08), as if to evoke the feeling of finding yourself in the shady, quiet, scummy corners and back-alleys of Rogueport that didnt initially reveal themselves, and then suddenly that triumphant, adventurous feeling suddenly kicks back in (1:09 - 1:27) to remind you what you're here for, the reason you began this adventure, and finally ending with the quietest, most reflective part of the track (1:28 - 1:42), which makes me think of the things you do in Rogueport that are aside from your grand adventure: playing slot games, resting, speaking with the locals, relaxing by the fountain; the reminder that Rogueport is really a humble little town with inhabitants that mean well all things said and done. Its quite beautiful in that way along with being catchy and memorable as a whole. I think that this version only has the spirit and not quite the execution of the original, with its constant drums and the generally more abrasive intrumentation not creating the same atmosphere. thats certainly the musical direction since sticker star instilled into ttyd, but despite whether or not you believe it belongs/works for the setting specifically when compared to the original, I will say it sounds damn good in a vacuum.
Honestly, I agree with the notion that it's too much. As an individual song, it's a banger, but in the setting of Rogueport, I thought it had too much energy. All that being said, I will still be listening to this on repeat for the foreseeable future lol
Not a fan at all of this arrangement at all. It feels too energetic and cheerful, way too out of place for Rogueport, a place that's supposed to be a nest of criminals and strange people. It's cool that each zone has its own variation now though.
@@carotteatomique Yeah it's a good song but it feels completely out of place. I feel that way about most of the remastered soundtrack. It sounds really good, but just doesn't fit the vibe of TTYD. Maybe I'm too used to the old songs.
To me, while I still think the old version fit Rogueport better than the modern version, I feel like the modern version really fits rogueport, just an alternate vibe for it. The old version's attempt at translating Rogueport to music is to make it sound kind of eerie, like it feels calm but in a very slightly unsettling way. The new version tries to reflect how much this hub world and its hinabitants are unreliable by making it sound intense to making sure you don't always get that "home" feeling. And both interpretations work really well to me
@@pikachu896I FEEL you on that. Love the music but I swear it just doesn’t feel right sometimes. Most of the x-naut stuff fits that for me. And I couldn’t recognize some of the boss music because of instrument mash. Like the most important part in the hooktail/dragon bosses was the drums and they’ve been neutered.
Absolutely. Because Sticker Star has invented everything that's objectively evil in the world, including Jazz, orchestral midi, and probably everything else that you don't like.
this goes absurdly hard what the fuck
I think my favorite part about this remake is that they added more music to the game and added dynamic music to certain areas such as the shop in rogueport
I noticed this too. While adventuring through Hooktail’s castle, they added a new arrangement to the battle and victory themes. So much detail in this game.
yes!! the badge shop remix goes hard af
The original sounds like a criminal city, this sounds like the anthem of one, it’s just too good
*cough* Detroit!
1:10 this bit always catches me off guard while I’m just doing things in rogueport, and I suddenly have the urge to stop and breakdance
Such a triumphant anthem. Was not prepared
I mean this in the best way possible this sounds *exactly* like a Smash remix
My bet is that it will be a song in the next smash.
Funny enough this sounds a lot better than the actual smash version.
@@OrbitalFrog_It has to be 🔥
I thought I heard this from smash
Theme of Philadelphia (HQ)
😭😭😭
Kensington
@@Cheseeburg lol....taking way more than half your coins over there!
I read that as Theme of Pedophilia
It's more like Detroit
They didn't need to go this hard for rogueport, but I'm so happy they did
Nah they did need to go hard because that’s our hub and where about 25% of the game takes place!
@@2nd_Shift True. I've spent an ungodly amount of time in this place running back and forth. I don't know how they made such a small area so fun
Nah, they did. You spend more time listening to this song more than any other than the game, except maybe battle theme. So it’s appreciated that they’re both excellent songs.
I'm saying they went sooo hard that it's more than enough
I'm conflicted on how epic they made almost all of the redid tracks sound, with the really cool drums and all... On one hand, it gives the remake a different feel than the original, for sure, but on the other hand, I think the redid tracks in conjunction with the new tracks do make the remake's Soundtrack the better one overall. I really enjoy what they've done with this remake, almost all good changes and additions. Of course, it's all up to interpretation, who likes which way what version did it, and all that.
This is what the Mario Kart sound team does between games
It took me four hours to go through the prologue.
And that's telling about the amount of details I seeked.
Was I satisfied? *Very.*
I also spent a long time in the prologue, enjoying all the little details and talking to all the NPC’s!
This makes me want a super paper mario remake so we can get a revamped flipside theme
Nah they'd mess up the dialogue
@@clouds-rb9xthow would they mess up the dialog? From what I know of the TTYD they just made occasional changes to be nicer to more groups of people (i.e. Vivian is trans in English, Luigi’s bridal moment is treated as something funny but normal rather than weird and off putting, stuff like that)
please no
Or even better; a new remix of Lineland Road..
@@JuneNafziger But they went too far in their changes. Faithfulness to the original script is great. But it got to the point where the localization team was straight up just removing specific words or altering phrases for no real reason, things 99.99% of people never had a problem with in the original.
Horns really do make everything better
My copy hasn't cime jn yet so I decided to check out the Rogueport theme. They really did put that brass up, gave the theme a lot more oomph in the Switch remake. Kinda makes it feel like a huge "we're back" moment more than ever.
Very interesting, excited to see how the other themes were changed.
I think my favorite part of this new remix is the part at 1:10, when it really starts to sound grandiose as the melody works away in the background. It’s almost as if the song itself is saying “That’s right, we’re back! We’re back and BETTER than ever!” Which is very apt for this remake as a whole, I feel
I get chills at this part. Feel the exact way!
This game is so much wish fulfillment. Its incredible.
I swear, listening to the original ost and this version back to back nearly brought me to tears. I am so, so unbelievably happy this exists. This game is so gosh darn beautiful!!
Everybody's talking about the part at 1:09 (and for good reason), but can we give some appreciation to the part at 0:35 too? It fits the vibe of a town full of rogues and outlaws so well
YES, I love that part too. It puts emphasis on how grimy and sleazy Rogueport can be before working in that heroic melody there. I think it did a much better job portraying that element than the original did (which already did it really well-)
1:09 pokemon mistery dungeon vibres
Goodness, what a way to make a comeback.
the more I play, the more it's growing on me ngl
Wonderful! Faithful to the original with more energy.
Never thought I'd hear Detroit's theme song like this.
Ok I'm gonna play ttyd I'm convinced now 🤯
1:09 is SO GOOD
I'm not crying, YOU'RE CRYING! Such a cool version of this song!
We makin it out of Rogueport’s East Side with this one 🔥
this song was already great in the original game, but oh my goodness the percussion in this version makes it even better
nope. Original fit way better
@@KidouKenshi22me when opinions
@@madrid_drive_enjoyerHe’s kind of right though, it gave off a more dingy and rundown vibe.
@@KidouKenshi22"in my opinion*"
@@chippypills the opinion is how you view rogueport. Honestly, if the of played first in the prologue and the new one played later on it would be perfect. Surprised they didn’t do that
Too heroic, too proggy, needs 20% more sleeze.
I cant help but feel like 0:50 onward is incomplete without death metal grunting and pig squeals
Rogueport was already in contention for my favourite hub in a Paper Mario game, but this theme alone has pushed it above Flipside for me, it's so good.
Man, never had I expected to hear this version of a Mario game’s version of Detroit go down harder than the original.
im 10 hours in and havent finished the 3rd chapter yet😭
My favorite part of this entire rearrangement has to be the little flourish before the loop at around 01:46. It beautiful and ties the whole piece together. Made me cry the first time I heard it. What phenomenal remake of an already amazing theme.
They got like a metal drummer or something lol
I hear this one on UA-cam all the time as background music.
new jersey ost
Man, you can just FEEL the sense of adventure in this remix! (or is it a rearrangement?)
The amount of love for this remake really shines in its music. Way to go Nintendo!!!
Love what they did with this remix, this track backing the sleazy streets of Rougeport does a great job at setting this place up as the core central hub of Mario's adventure. It's given a new, heightened level of grandeur, excitement and mystery that the speakers of the GameCube just weren't equipped for. It really does accentuate the feeling that you could go anywhere in the world from the place wonderfully.
The same very much applies to innumerable other tracks in this remake, they did a killer job with this soundtrack!
I love how it sounds like a boss theme
picking up my copy on my way home from work tonight 🎉
This is one of my favorites
The Theme of me running around on Yoshi trying to farm and buy ingredients for the recipes
People saying this sounds loud but honestly. I'm glad it does.
The original felt like a brand new adventure, but this one feels like "Yeah, WE ARE BACK!".
A completely contrasts to the previous games.
No more calm quiet towns with toads!
There are criminals and graffiti all over town! You can get mugged or killed!
Be prepared as youre about to go in an adventure of a LIFETIME!
The quality of modern paper mario music remaking iconic old songs is genuinely the best thing that could ever happen to this series
How did they manage to make a song MORE epic sounding than tok’s toad town?
I really like the new theme, it goes harder, louder and more aggressive, and that fits more to the Rogueport 😂
The bagpipes part, man... I never had the chance to play the original game, but boy am I happy I get to experience it like this
Ladies, gentlemen...welcome back to Rogueport!
I didn’t even grow up with or play this game but god damn this is love for the og right here
This song is good!
I the original, it sounded like an alley way in Detroit. In the remake, it sounds like an alley way in Dubai.
Actually 0:36 sounds more like India
0:37 Sounds like Snif City from Origami King
Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Alright, I'm going to be honest. This is too bombastic for the main overworld but would make incredible End Credits.
It goes so hard but.. maybe too hard for a town theme... lmao
Anyone miss the bongo sounds.
Don’t get me wrong I like the new version of the theme it sounds great, it’s just different without the bongo sounds.
I'm pretty sure it has some around 1:30
I seriously feel this theme when I walk around NYC and it's a bit too late in the night.
I, for one, actually really like that this version of the song has a louder feel than the original did. This one just screams "We're back, baby!" at the top of its lungs. Perfect for our grand return to Rogueport.
I actually can't listen to the original of this without cringing omg. Like not to say it's bad, but this version goes so fucking hard by comparison. Rogueport's an awesome hub area!
Bro what, this slappppps
I actually never listened to the remix and holy crap they really went all out
Tbh I dont like this remix, way too over the top and hype compared to the original
It has this Shantae vibe
1000th like!
Sure, the original song had a better vibe but this one has really grown on me since I first heard it. Whereas the original had a Detroit kinda vibe to it, this has more of a New York or Chicago vibe, more bustling than sketchy
i know this theme doesnt fit the vibe of rogueport quite as well as the original, but it's my favourite version regardless. i love its bombastic nature, and i find it playing in my head a lot and it makes me really happy. it, like many of the tracks in this game, feel like a celebration of the revival of paper mario's original and objectively true form.
If you liked this then you might also enjoy a video called *The soundtrack of Ocarina of Time, but it's a prog rock concept album*
How could anyone possibly think the old version is better?? I haven't played the original, but I listened to this song in the original game soundtrack, and it is honestly so bad in comparison to this. There's no way anyone who likes the original better likes it for any reason other than nostalgia.
tbh i think that the new ost is a lot more expressive
@@kolpkii you're saying that in a good way right?
@@skymatrix6962 yes
@@kolpkii yeah I agree
The only kind of valid complaint I hear about something like this is that it's a little too bombastic, but I don't fully agree with that either
0:00 - 0:17 sounds kinda like Bravely Default.😮
It’s soo good to be back in rogueport once more. This time I will complete this game 100%
Here before the Nintendo ninjas strike
Anyone else getting Devin Townsend Project vibes from this?
This is just Florida but as an island
Its a pretty good remix but in the context of the town it feels a bit unfitting
Controversial take: this goes TOO hard. This is too much for an area theme. Too loud maybe, for me.
Nah it fits it fine
If youre gonna be in rogueport alot, the theme better make that time worth it
why is this such a grandiose theme for the mario equivalent of pittsburgh
simulator de romania
This is far too noisy and has a completely different aural identity. This was unnecessary.
romania
I do not like this. Way too loud and busy for a run-down dirty crime-ridden port city.
Luckily, you can still have the original music playing if you want, and people seem to still like this version so I'm happy.
it definitely sounds more battle theme-esque/grand compared to the original's more relaxed or eased tone, relatively speaking; I love the way the original tells a story in its progression: it starts triumphant and filled (0:00 - 0:35), as if to signal arriving in a strange new crowded place filled with strange faces on an adventure, then eases itself into being less pronounced (0:36 - 1:08), as if to evoke the feeling of finding yourself in the shady, quiet, scummy corners and back-alleys of Rogueport that didnt initially reveal themselves, and then suddenly that triumphant, adventurous feeling suddenly kicks back in (1:09 - 1:27) to remind you what you're here for, the reason you began this adventure, and finally ending with the quietest, most reflective part of the track (1:28 - 1:42), which makes me think of the things you do in Rogueport that are aside from your grand adventure: playing slot games, resting, speaking with the locals, relaxing by the fountain; the reminder that Rogueport is really a humble little town with inhabitants that mean well all things said and done. Its quite beautiful in that way along with being catchy and memorable as a whole. I think that this version only has the spirit and not quite the execution of the original, with its constant drums and the generally more abrasive intrumentation not creating the same atmosphere. thats certainly the musical direction since sticker star instilled into ttyd, but despite whether or not you believe it belongs/works for the setting specifically when compared to the original, I will say it sounds damn good in a vacuum.
Agreed. The drums are completely outta place. Too many instruments going on and it's straight-up distracting.
Honestly, I agree with the notion that it's too much. As an individual song, it's a banger, but in the setting of Rogueport, I thought it had too much energy. All that being said, I will still be listening to this on repeat for the foreseeable future lol
Not a fan at all of this arrangement at all. It feels too energetic and cheerful, way too out of place for Rogueport, a place that's supposed to be a nest of criminals and strange people. It's cool that each zone has its own variation now though.
agree. on its own this remix is fantastic but it doesn’t fit the vibe of rogueport at all
@@carotteatomique Yeah it's a good song but it feels completely out of place. I feel that way about most of the remastered soundtrack. It sounds really good, but just doesn't fit the vibe of TTYD. Maybe I'm too used to the old songs.
To me, while I still think the old version fit Rogueport better than the modern version, I feel like the modern version really fits rogueport, just an alternate vibe for it. The old version's attempt at translating Rogueport to music is to make it sound kind of eerie, like it feels calm but in a very slightly unsettling way. The new version tries to reflect how much this hub world and its hinabitants are unreliable by making it sound intense to making sure you don't always get that "home" feeling. And both interpretations work really well to me
@@pikachu896I FEEL you on that. Love the music but I swear it just doesn’t feel right sometimes. Most of the x-naut stuff fits that for me. And I couldn’t recognize some of the boss music because of instrument mash. Like the most important part in the hooktail/dragon bosses was the drums and they’ve been neutered.
original way better and darker
Original pales next to this masterpiece.
There both good
Now it sounds like some generic sticker star crap, doesn’t capture the feel of the location like the original did at all. Botched arrangement.
If there’s one thing sticker star got right, it’s the music
Copium
Absolutely. Because Sticker Star has invented everything that's objectively evil in the world, including Jazz, orchestral midi, and probably everything else that you don't like.