I was a little girl in the 60s & even then we --women & girls----were expected to wear dresses. Schools had dress codes & pants were not allowed for girls until I was in the 5th grade (around 1970) My grandparents had a ranch that I spent every Summer & most school vacations at since my mom worked & daycare wasn't readily available back then & I had to buy my ranch clothes in the boys dept. Just jeans & button up western type shirts & sturdy boots. I remember the shirts buttoned up diffferently. Casual has not always been a thing, especially for women/girls & women wearing pants/trousers/jeans in everyday life is a relatively new thing. Work clothes ( overalls, jeans, denim/flannel shirts, work boots, etc) were not sold in the womens dept of the store. Average folks had work clothes & church clothes & kids had school clothes & play clothes. Life was much more compartmentalized than it is now in the digital age.
Very interesting! Yes life was compartmentalised that's the best way to put it. Also before 60s there wasn't much of casual dressing. There's a photo of my great grandfather in what it looks like a barbecue (we call it asado here) and some men are wearing pyjamas pants bc what else could they use?
Gosh, now that pants are expected I’ve gone rogue and hardly ever wear them… But I imagine if I was born in your time I may have felt limited by that and could very well have sought out pants just to change things up! But growing up with pants I’ve had to go many years without wearing them to get rid of that line across my belly from tight jeans! 😩😮💨 As well as get underwear that isn’t too tight and preferably high waisted! 🥲 Makes the fact that she wore pants in the 40’s even more interesting! 🥰
Bette Davis had a delicate physique, juxtaposed with a unique and strong character. I guess it follows suit that her style would be quirky and arty, with a foundation of chic vogue. Your observations were brilliant in this video. My sense of style has now been further illuminated. 😉 Thank you, Ally!
Love Bette! She evolved from ingenue ,to diva star ,to an older character actress. She never stopped working. She also did theater before films, which makes her acting career even longer.
I always loved straight lines, à la dramatic, but those didn't suited me very well. When I was able to type myself correctly in the Kibbe system (SG) I realized I can wear straight lines if they're short. So, I can't be manly, but definitely boyish! Also enjoying all the quirky stuff I can throw on myself and still looking good!
I absolutely love Bette Davis, she was such an interesting person and so fashionable and cool. I went to grad school in the town she was from in Massachusetts and they have a film festival to celebrate her every year, she was an amazing actor.
i think wedding suits were pretty common for a lot of women who married in the 1940s (particularly for those on their 2nd or 3rd marriage).. . my great-grandparents were married at city hall in the 40s and my great-grandmother just wore a cream suit with matching platform shoes/hat/gloves/clutch.. . it wasn't really meant to be a humorous joke, it was a time of war and austerity, so elaborate weddings with big bouquets, long dresses, veils, trains just would have felt out of step with the times for a lot of young couples (even those that could afford it)..
I would love to see you do a video on Jane Fonda. So many decades, so many styles, so many photographs. She is one of the few actresses that performed in her early youth and still performs today. Like a style chameleon, she always seems to embrace each decade's style trends with confidence.
Hi Alyona, I have an idea. Do you think you can make a video ( or a video series) about the gowns worn by the stars at the Oscars, with, of course, your take on whether or not the Kibbe system was followed? I think that would be excellent!
Bette Davis is one of my favorite actresses. She exuded so much confidence on screen. She definitely was playful and also a little masculine, which I think set her apart from other actresses.
The reason the pants were so big and loose was because that was what the men were wearing then, look at Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, ordinary workers, etc. Loose pants with belts fit people for longer, and were made of better quality fabrics which lasted longer - unlike today's fast fashion. Of course, these stars could afford nicely tailored clothes, and everyone else were savvy enough to be able to alter ready-made clothes to suit themselves or make their own from scratch. Not so much these days. Fast fashion is like fast food - it's junk (literally; mostly compounds found in plastic, pvc, etc). Fast fashion is made of cheap fabrics, made by poor people in slave conditions (mostly in Eastern countries), made in standard sizes that fit only standard people, to be sold cheaply, meant to last for a season only; so you HAVE to buy more constantly to be "in style" - in other words, planned obsolescence to keep capitalism ticking over. Fast fashion uses very small overlocked/serged seam allowances, so they cannot be let out or altered much without it looking obvious. This why fast fashion rarely fits most people well. Because people these days are mostly not savvy with sewing, they are not aware of how a garment should sit or drape on the body, where the seam lines should lie, the real purpose of slightly shorter long sleeves, why waist height makes such a big difference on different body shapes, etc. The ordinary working class person wears fast fashion because that is all they can afford, yet they are unaware that it should/could fit them better were it not for capitalism.
People compete with each other over the things they can afford, being able to get new, and expensive, clothes is something people like to show off, particularly women since they are the main people who care about what is in season. This is a consequence of human nature and is irrespective of capitalist or communist societies (since even in a communist society, people still horde wealth which is why they inevitably collapse).
@@unapologeticanti-feminist3205 Well said. Many people hate capitalism but are not willing to give up the benefits of a capitalistic society. Certainly there are those who abuse the system, but capitalism is simply about having a product and selling it to those who need it so that you, in turn, can buy things you need to provide for your family. People think about how rich some of these CEO's are but don't realize that there fortune is also tied up in their business. They have to pay employees, insurance, mortgages/rent/maintenance, etc., and they can lose it in an instant.
Thank you, Aly, for another excellent and well-researched video. I have been trying to determine whether I am a TR or a soft gamine, and thanks to this video, and the one about "don'ts for body types", I have decided that I am an SG. I was really struggling with incorporating the guidelines for romantics and theatrical romantics into my sense of style, but the soft-gamine sense of youth and playfulness fits my personality much better. In addition, I do feel that my body has a bit more angularity than either of the romantics, and I'm pretty short, at 5'4". I'm looking forward to checking out the links you have included.
So great to see you review Bette! An underrated style icon. Now, Voyager is one of the greatest romances ever and her costumes in it are divine, highly recommend.
Shoulder pads were created by Adrian for Joan Crawford. Thanks for these videos! A video on Joan's fashion would be so cool, since she started many trends 🤗 Kibbe typed her as a Dramatic, but it's hard for me to see. LOL at the picture of Joan and Bette with the straws in her nose 🤣 That was photoshopped 😂
14:30 "Medallions" is pronounced similar to "Italians". :) I love your videos! So much time and effort is put into understanding the Kibbe system. Thank you. I've come to really understand my personal style in my gamin male frame! Thank you. Im trying to hold onto my clothing for years, and this has helped me to fall in love with my pieces! I know what works on me. Yay!
Brilliant video and advice. I really appreciate this video, you’ll never know how much. I dressed similar to this look since about 2014 (when I started selling my “trendy” things and buying vintage or mock vintage). Today i found out I’m soft Gamine so am so pleased that I almost hit the nail with my wardrobe. But with your advice, I can elevate my look and aesthetic even further. Thank you once again
i would love for you to do a video on how to incorporate that classic 50/60 fashion influence, but in 2022. I always struggle on how to dress today but with her 50s influence.
Love all your vids, they're so informative and interesting! You're helping us to learn so much about ourselves, and others! I know you've done face shape videos, and I can't remember if you discussed this in them (will have to watch them again), but I'd be interested in knowing the best neckline in tops for face shapes/body type.
May you please make a video about dressing androgynous for different body types? Like dressing androgynous for FN, SN, R, etc for your non binary and other gender non-conforming people watching?
I am about 98% certain I am a soft gamine! I just have very long arms. I'm only 5'4" and very dainty all over with a more teenage frame, but long extremities.
I'm that cursed Soft Gamine with small almond eyes unless I put off my glasses and see nothing and open my eyes like a blind trying to see (which I do for photos, because otherwise it's just... hugh.)
Having just had the revelation that I might be a taller soft gamine rather than a shorter soft dramatic; I feel like in youth, a lot of soft dramatics start out as soft gamines and mature into soft dramatic. Just an sitting interesting I noticed. A lot of parallels in these two types
I still think you are a soft natural. When your hair is longer, looser and sort of messy it just fits your facial bone structure. Thats my guess of your body type! 💞🙏🏿😘
Hey Aly, I've been always into natural style, except I am a dramatic classic. How do I incorporate the element of their essence within my fashion without destroying the balance of my physique?
@@julieme7927 not particularly, I’m TR and really enjoyed androgynous outfits until I discovered Kibbe and realised although I liked those outfits, they didn’t fit me as much as it did naturals/dramatics who I admired. Trying to incorporate quirkiness into my romantic lines is what I am striving for even if I might lean more into gamine sometimes.
@@bbappzz98 I see what you mean but in my case I really don't know which of those two I am so I hoped that my leaning towards natural lines was an indication of what my kibble type might be 🙈
If you could dive into Sharon Tate that would great. She was absolutely beautiful. I actually have a picture of her in my phone for when debates pop up about "Who was the most beautiful actress?" or something like that. Such a tragic loss but she was beautiful.
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alys you should try a style similaire
I feel the stylists in the 40s/50s really were superior in knowledge to today's stylists.
Today many would call someone professional as if it only requires just blindly following a set of rules
I agree
Not only are we learning about style, we are learning about history. That is one of the things that makes this series so special. Thank you, Aly!
She's a great example of combining your personal taste and personality with what looks best on your body type.
It’s interesting that her SG style is associated with girl like, playful, innocent because she was such strong dame, in the best sense of the word.
a perfect example of one of the possible ways the yin/yang mix can express itself if soft gamines!
@@LadyNightsong , yeah!
She was the definition of cool. She really didn't give a shit, and just did her thing. A legend
"Not those regular body types like asparagus" 😂😂😂 well said though
I was a little girl in the 60s & even then we --women & girls----were expected to wear dresses. Schools had dress codes & pants were not allowed for girls until I was in the 5th grade (around 1970) My grandparents had a ranch that I spent every Summer & most school vacations at since my mom worked & daycare wasn't readily available back then & I had to buy my ranch clothes in the boys dept. Just jeans & button up western type shirts & sturdy boots. I remember the shirts buttoned up diffferently. Casual has not always been a thing, especially for women/girls & women wearing pants/trousers/jeans in everyday life is a relatively new thing. Work clothes ( overalls, jeans, denim/flannel shirts, work boots, etc) were not sold in the womens dept of the store. Average folks had work clothes & church clothes & kids had school clothes & play clothes. Life was much more compartmentalized than it is now in the digital age.
I enjoyed reading your comment 😊
Very interesting! Yes life was compartmentalised that's the best way to put it. Also before 60s there wasn't much of casual dressing. There's a photo of my great grandfather in what it looks like a barbecue (we call it asado here) and some men are wearing pyjamas pants bc what else could they use?
Gosh, now that pants are expected I’ve gone rogue and hardly ever wear them… But I imagine if I was born in your time I may have felt limited by that and could very well have sought out pants just to change things up!
But growing up with pants I’ve had to go many years without wearing them to get rid of that line across my belly from tight jeans! 😩😮💨 As well as get underwear that isn’t too tight and preferably high waisted! 🥲
Makes the fact that she wore pants in the 40’s even more interesting! 🥰
Bette Davis had a delicate physique, juxtaposed with a unique and strong character. I guess it follows suit that her style would be quirky and arty, with a foundation of chic vogue. Your observations were brilliant in this video. My sense of style has now been further illuminated. 😉 Thank you, Ally!
I think the expression you were looking for is "plunging back.' This was very well thought and researched.👍
Never expected a video about Davis's style. This is great
Love Bette! She evolved from ingenue ,to diva star ,to an older character actress. She never stopped working. She also did theater before films, which makes her acting career even longer.
I always loved straight lines, à la dramatic, but those didn't suited me very well. When I was able to type myself correctly in the Kibbe system (SG) I realized I can wear straight lines if they're short. So, I can't be manly, but definitely boyish! Also enjoying all the quirky stuff I can throw on myself and still looking good!
I absolutely love Bette Davis, she was such an interesting person and so fashionable and cool. I went to grad school in the town she was from in Massachusetts and they have a film festival to celebrate her every year, she was an amazing actor.
Please do a theatrical romantic one next as I still am not sure if I belong to this body type
I love the vintage glamour series! The Hollywood pros really knew how accentuate unique beauty!
Love me some Bette Davis and her style!!!
I love how passionate you are about these topics! ❤️
I think this Chaplin-inspired image accentuated the Dramatic (yang) side of her body type really well.
Oh! I love Betty Davis!
i think wedding suits were pretty common for a lot of women who married in the 1940s (particularly for those on their 2nd or 3rd marriage).. . my great-grandparents were married at city hall in the 40s and my great-grandmother just wore a cream suit with matching platform shoes/hat/gloves/clutch.. . it wasn't really meant to be a humorous joke, it was a time of war and austerity, so elaborate weddings with big bouquets, long dresses, veils, trains just would have felt out of step with the times for a lot of young couples (even those that could afford it)..
This is one of my favourite series on your channel! please do Viv Leigh as a theatrical romantic ❤️
I would love to see you do a video on Jane Fonda. So many decades, so many styles, so many photographs. She is one of the few actresses that performed in her early youth and still performs today. Like a style chameleon, she always seems to embrace each decade's style trends with confidence.
I wonder what body type she has. So cute.
Hi Alyona, I have an idea. Do you think you can make a video ( or a video series) about the gowns worn by the stars at the Oscars, with, of course, your take on whether or not the Kibbe system was followed? I think that would be excellent!
Great idea!
Bette Davis is one of my favorite actresses. She exuded so much confidence on screen. She definitely was playful and also a little masculine, which I think set her apart from other actresses.
Bette Davis is iconic. Thanks
I love this 50's style and totally relate to it 🥰🥰. I'm a Theatrical Romantic but love this classic/dandy style
This is 30s and early 40s style, not 50s.
Very interesting and well done, thanks!
One small point: her name is pronounced like Betty - so the last syllable is also pronounced.
Bette Midler, pronanced without the last e, Bette Davis with the last e. No logic there, we have to learn it 😅
@@dianagyuro2640 Very true! That's English for you 😁 lol
Love this series, it always so informative and fun to watch❤❤
The reason the pants were so big and loose was because that was what the men were wearing then, look at Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, ordinary workers, etc. Loose pants with belts fit people for longer, and were made of better quality fabrics which lasted longer - unlike today's fast fashion. Of course, these stars could afford nicely tailored clothes, and everyone else were savvy enough to be able to alter ready-made clothes to suit themselves or make their own from scratch. Not so much these days.
Fast fashion is like fast food - it's junk (literally; mostly compounds found in plastic, pvc, etc). Fast fashion is made of cheap fabrics, made by poor people in slave conditions (mostly in Eastern countries), made in standard sizes that fit only standard people, to be sold cheaply, meant to last for a season only; so you HAVE to buy more constantly to be "in style" - in other words, planned obsolescence to keep capitalism ticking over. Fast fashion uses very small overlocked/serged seam allowances, so they cannot be let out or altered much without it looking obvious. This why fast fashion rarely fits most people well. Because people these days are mostly not savvy with sewing, they are not aware of how a garment should sit or drape on the body, where the seam lines should lie, the real purpose of slightly shorter long sleeves, why waist height makes such a big difference on different body shapes, etc. The ordinary working class person wears fast fashion because that is all they can afford, yet they are unaware that it should/could fit them better were it not for capitalism.
People compete with each other over the things they can afford, being able to get new, and expensive, clothes is something people like to show off, particularly women since they are the main people who care about what is in season. This is a consequence of human nature and is irrespective of capitalist or communist societies (since even in a communist society, people still horde wealth which is why they inevitably collapse).
@@unapologeticanti-feminist3205 Well said. Many people hate capitalism but are not willing to give up the benefits of a capitalistic society. Certainly there are those who abuse the system, but capitalism is simply about having a product and selling it to those who need it so that you, in turn, can buy things you need to provide for your family. People think about how rich some of these CEO's are but don't realize that there fortune is also tied up in their business. They have to pay employees, insurance, mortgages/rent/maintenance, etc., and they can lose it in an instant.
Thank you, Aly, for another excellent and well-researched video. I have been trying to determine whether I am a TR or a soft gamine, and thanks to this video, and the one about "don'ts for body types", I have decided that I am an SG. I was really struggling with incorporating the guidelines for romantics and theatrical romantics into my sense of style, but the soft-gamine sense of youth and playfulness fits my personality much better. In addition, I do feel that my body has a bit more angularity than either of the romantics, and I'm pretty short, at 5'4". I'm looking forward to checking out the links you have included.
Love her sense of humor! I would want to incorporate that into my wardrobe
So great to see you review Bette! An underrated style icon. Now, Voyager is one of the greatest romances ever and her costumes in it are divine, highly recommend.
When you have her pictures next to you, you sort of remind her. :)
same body type :)
Aly once said she was wrong about being a soft gamine yet never told us what she is then 🤷🏻♀️
@@claudiah8905 probably a gamine
Woooo amazing! Thank you Aly for the series and all the work you’re putting into it!
Another great style analysis and nostalgic look at these wonderful actresses of Hollywood's golden era.
Please keep up this 30s/40s inspo, I'm loving it
Bette is my all time favorite actress 💜
Shoulder pads were created by Adrian for Joan Crawford. Thanks for these videos! A video on Joan's fashion would be so cool, since she started many trends 🤗 Kibbe typed her as a Dramatic, but it's hard for me to see.
LOL at the picture of Joan and Bette with the straws in her nose 🤣
That was photoshopped 😂
14:30 "Medallions" is pronounced similar to "Italians". :)
I love your videos! So much time and effort is put into understanding the Kibbe system. Thank you.
I've come to really understand my personal style in my gamin male frame! Thank you. Im trying to hold onto my clothing for years, and this has helped me to fall in love with my pieces! I know what works on me. Yay!
Brilliant video and advice. I really appreciate this video, you’ll never know how much. I dressed similar to this look since about 2014 (when I started selling my “trendy” things and buying vintage or mock vintage). Today i found out I’m soft Gamine so am so pleased that I almost hit the nail with my wardrobe. But with your advice, I can elevate my look and aesthetic even further. Thank you once again
Wardrobe for the types!!! 😍😍😍😍😘😘😘😘😘 i luuuuuuv ur channel!!
i would love for you to do a video on how to incorporate that classic 50/60 fashion influence, but in 2022. I always struggle on how to dress today but with her 50s influence.
"was like: one hundred coats" HAHDJAHSHS as a soft gamine i loved this video so so much thank you 💗 this will be useful as an inspiration
Please do a video like this for flamboyant gamine. Your videos are so interesting and I am so glad I follow you.
She did one of Audrey Hepburn
Thanks so much these videos are so helpful could you do a theatrical romantic?
I love your content
You put in work we appreciate it
great video! please do a SN icon💕
I love watching these style icons videos. Cant wait for the natural body type.
Please do soft natural next pls pls...
Great job! I love your hair color and style!
I love you for the plunging back collar :)))
I love that I’m the same Kibbe type as Bette Davis ♥️
Love all your vids, they're so informative and interesting! You're helping us to learn so much about ourselves, and others! I know you've done face shape videos, and I can't remember if you discussed this in them (will have to watch them again), but I'd be interested in knowing the best neckline in tops for face shapes/body type.
I believe I'm a soft gamine, so this video is very inspirational. Gotta take a closer look at Davis's wardrobe
I love Betty Davis and I'm also soft geminy. Thank you for your explnations
Great video! Thank you so much!
Please please PLEASE do Mae West or Jean Harlow next 😩😩😩😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
Yes...PLEASE bothe of them
Bette Davis was my Moms favourite actress. My Mom said it was because “Bette was never afraid to play a b!tch”.
GREAT CONTENT! THANK YOU!
Brilliant! What fantastic content! Thank you!!
Can't wait until your reveal what type. 💕
You are so amazing!!!!! Thanks for share so much knowledge ❤
Wow, this was so great. THANK YOU!!
Love your videos.
Bette Davis's first name is pronounced the same as "Betty".
I'm surprised I had to scroll as long as I did to find a comment mentioning this!!
Y’all look so much alike actually!
this is amazing content !!!
Ma'am can you please make a video about Asian girl kibbe type . I'm so confused about my body type specially confuse on my facial features.
I like Davis's acting, and saw this video, like her fashions too!
May you please make a video about dressing androgynous for different body types? Like dressing androgynous for FN, SN, R, etc for your non binary and other gender non-conforming people watching?
She looks like my great grandma. So pretty.
They said she wasnt but i really think that she was absurdly beautiful.
I am about 98% certain I am a soft gamine! I just have very long arms. I'm only 5'4" and very dainty all over with a more teenage frame, but long extremities.
you’re probably a flamboyant gamine
great Betty , great video !!!
I think you said that you’re not soft gamine anymore, what is your type then? I am really curious :)
Maybe something with dramatic, cause she cut her hair off. Geometric shapes.
@@jiarendoesntcare maybe, but she still looks like a gamine type to me... I hope we get an explanation soon :)
"Cute' - the last word I would use for Bette Davis or her roles.
Great! I was wondering who you would have for soft gamine.
Can you PLEASE do Debbie Reynolds style?(:
Kim Carnes has a song called "Bette Davis Eyes"
Aly your links in your info bar don't work?
Please make the video about Betty Page and Betty Brosmer.
30s and 40s styles...those pants ❤️❤️❤️
I'm that cursed Soft Gamine with small almond eyes unless I put off my glasses and see nothing and open my eyes like a blind trying to see (which I do for photos, because otherwise it's just... hugh.)
Would love in depth looks of modern soft gamines with current every day wearable styles.
such a thorough wonderful video.
were they're any dramatic body type hollywood diva I wonder ?
Catherine Hepburn
Having just had the revelation that I might be a taller soft gamine rather than a shorter soft dramatic; I feel like in youth, a lot of soft dramatics start out as soft gamines and mature into soft dramatic. Just an sitting interesting I noticed. A lot of parallels in these two types
It would be amazing to see a style review of princess Diana and Sharon Tate
Truly iconic
Please, make a review of my favorite actress: Greer Garson! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Loved Greer in Pride & Prejudice and Random Harvest!!
Yes please
She's my favorite.
I still think you are a soft natural. When your hair is longer, looser and sort of messy it just fits your facial bone structure. Thats my guess of your body type! 💞🙏🏿😘
Bette Davis in her youth is the most beautiful woman ever.
It's pronounced Bettyyyyy guys
Waiting for gamineee!
I’m still so stuck between SG and TR atm
DO MICHELLE PFEIFFER PLEASE!
Just saying hi, Aly, happy to be among the first ones to comment :D
Hey Aly, I've been always into natural style, except I am a dramatic classic. How do I incorporate the element of their essence within my fashion without destroying the balance of my physique?
same!!
Same here. It's what has made me unsure of whether I'm a soft dramatic or a flamboyant natural. Would we not be more drawn to our own lines?
@@julieme7927 not particularly, I’m TR and really enjoyed androgynous outfits until I discovered Kibbe and realised although I liked those outfits, they didn’t fit me as much as it did naturals/dramatics who I admired. Trying to incorporate quirkiness into my romantic lines is what I am striving for even if I might lean more into gamine sometimes.
@@bbappzz98 I see what you mean but in my case I really don't know which of those two I am so I hoped that my leaning towards natural lines was an indication of what my kibble type might be 🙈
I want a style analysis of Baddiewinkle now
If you could dive into Sharon Tate that would great. She was absolutely beautiful. I actually have a picture of her in my phone for when debates pop up about "Who was the most beautiful actress?" or something like that. Such a tragic loss but she was beautiful.
Just thought of something else. I believe it was Juice Newton that sang a song called "Bette Davis Eyes" ...you should cover it 😉
Correction...it was Kim Carnes that sang it 👍
Confession... I watch these just to listen to Aly’s voice.
I absolutely adore her voice and her adorable mispronunciations 💕