Just recently go into your channel and gosh do I love it! I enjoy the enthusiasm, the effort, the depth, and the full story told about our favorite movies growing up as kids and ones that will forever strum the heart strings of nostalgia.
Tai Lung, Shen and Kai represent body, mind and spirit, which are the 3 things you need to be a master of Kung Fu. And Po mastered and overcome each challenge they bring.
Kung Fu Panda: Tai Lung - tests Po’s physicality Kung Fu Panda 2: Shen - tests Po’s mentality Kung Fu Panda 3: Kai - tests Po’s spirituality Kung Fu Panda 4: Death the Wolf - tests Po’s mortality
There is something surprising realistic about a character like Shen, someone who commits atrocities because he thinks he’s above the consequences of them.
Shen truly is the peak of dreamworks villains. What a fantastic character and he's a peacock! How many movies/shows can say they have a peacock as a villain, not many i assume.
The way Shen accepts his death when the cannon is falling on him really adds more depth to his character, it was not fear but it was like he knew what was about to happen and showed he had no more hope left for himself.
I remember a comment on Shen's death being that Shen was the warrior of black and white because when Po deflected that last cannon ball back at him, he was covered in soot and the ropes were cut because of him. So in the end, he defeated himself.
Had anyone noticed each of the villains is connected to one of the heros Tai Lung is connected to shifu Lord shen is connected to po Kai is connected to Master Oogway
That’s what makes them so great. They have personal connections and backstories that intertwine with the other characters, meaning conflict with them makes it all the more meaningful.
@@ValentinaMQuetzal technically tai lung is connected to tigress, both were raised with the mindset that they were gonna be the dragon warrior, the only difference is that tai lung chose to be evil because he wasnt chosen and tigress didnt rebel when she wasnt picked. Theyre like yin and yang
I love Tai Lung by far over the other two main villains. He's more sympathetic than the other two, and his motives go beyond mere greed or power. He's also awesome because he's completely self reliant. He's self made, self built. He didn't cower behind goofy weapons, nor did he rely on bullcrap magic. All Tai Lung had was himself...and that's all he needed!!
Did you watch ANY of the movies??? Firstly, he was not self-made not self built, shifu literally trained him everyday. And Kai most definitely doesn't Rely on bullcrap magic....The chi power is kung-fu itself, not to mention Tai Lung have no chance against Kai even in hand to hand combat + Shen was not cowering behing goofy weapons, he knew his weakness and made up for it using his brains making a machine that can send you to the spirit world in literal seconds...but Tai Lung would be too arrogant and proud to even acknowledge his weakness. AND, His motives go beyond greed and power???? REALLY?? His backstory to why he became a villain was literally HIS GREED FOR POWER😆😆. I hope you're joking....if not, then You should re-watch the trilogy and you should actually listen to what they said instead of simping over Tai Lung
Just being trained by someone does not make you a fighter. A coach/teacher will help you to have better technique, combos, drills, conditioning etc. But the majority of the work are done alone. Hitting them pads and heavy bags, sparring, getting hit, developed the ability to eat pain etc. Fighting is a solo journey and you gotta be iron both mind and body. Doesn't matter if you've the greatest coach in the world, if you're not willing to get hurt, you ain't gonna be great
Lord Shen is the most perfectly written villain of all time. Evil to the core, but still vulnerable enough to be emotionally scarred by his parents' disapproval. No remorse, no regret, and no hesitation. He also has a well-defined mission and even gave excellent displays of passion and commitment. Not to mention an excellent fighter, leader, strategist, intellectual, and always camera ready. Lord Shen is the best!
I remember reading that Kung Fu panda will have 6 movies. I really believe that in one of the remaining movies, Tai lung is going to return and get a redemption arc. He deserves it, his nephew could help him change his ways. I think Tai lung coming back will help Shifu grow even more as a master so his return would be really iconic!
No he is not going to come back Tai Lung is dead okay sorry but that is not going to happen Tai Lung is dead okay and here is the thing Tai Lung will not return to the mortal works because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so Tai Lung is dead
Adventurekitty 101 2.0 No Tai Lung will not be coming back the only reason Why Po came back is because he had the pandas chi he had Tigeress and Mr Prings chi and also he was a master of chi and also the only reason why General Kai returned is because he was a master of chi Tai Lung will not return because he is not as a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
Tai lung was the most tragic and relatable. Shen was the most evil and had the most impact cause of his connection to Po. And Kai was just a solid villain with a connection to oogway but to me not the same as the other 2
I like Kai. He’s a breath of fresh air compared to the other two villains. Not every villains needs a deep backstory or layered motive. Kai excels in theatrics, his charm and his abilities and that’s enough for me imo
Pure evil would be someone who causes suffering for fun or who lacks the ability to process when they make someone suffer... So Shen is at least a step above that.
I always loved the different art styles used for the villains backstories. Tai Lung had the normal art style, Shen had a stop motion sort of vibe, and Kai had a comic-like style. Just thought it was cool.
Shen is one of the best villain in cartoons in my opinion, his backstory is honestly about how his parents failed to raise him by seemingly not giving him enough Love, thats something most people might experience, his defeat and realization also showed us an example of someone realizing they're bad but they still do the things they do because they simply fell too deep, they are in on it and they feel like they can't get out, they have no other choice, but there is always a choice
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOnethere is it’s animated so there for cartoon, a cartoon is anything that is animated either 2D or 3D animation. So there’s a difference.
Tai Lung is relatable on a humane level because he perfected himself just to make Shifu proud, and he feels like his right to become the Dragon Warrior has been stripped away from him. Shen was always viewed negatively by his parents, who loved him unconditionally, and he found solace in the destructive capability of gunpowder. And he manipulatively mirrored it to Po, who wanted to know the truth about his own past. But Po, after gaining inner peace, managed to move forward from the tragedy unlike Shen. I think he and Death from ‘Puss in Boots 2’ are some of the best villains created by DreamWorks. Kai walked along with Oogway all his life until he was corrupted by the power of qi, and used the dark side of qi to get glory and fame like Oogway, or even more than him. A really cool compilation of the Kung Fu Panda trilogy, Isaac; it’s my favourite DreamWorks film series. Can you do another DreamWorks film theory video, like Madagascar or Puss in Boots, please??
The irony with Oogway and Kai is that Kai didn't actually lose his way. It was Oogway who changed from a destructive warlord into a being of harmony and good.
Tai Lung was one of the very few to master the 1000 scrolls of Kung Fu next to Oogway himself and is shown that Tai actually mastered chi but in a dark way,to learn chi he mostly learned it from Oogway, it had to be taught by someone who already knew how to control it aka Pandas, the Pandas after Shens invasion became lazy, and lost the secrets of their martial arts, Tai knew the Pandas that the world knew were gone by the time he learned how to control chi so when he sees the Dragon Warrior is none other than a Panda it legit looks like a joke “He’s the Dragon Warrior?! Him??? He’s a Panda, YOUR A PANDA. What are you gonna do big guy sit on me??”
Idk if this is factual but I remember once reading that Shen's backstory was that he was always viewed as being sick and weak due to him being albino That would only make his story even more tragic as he didnt just grow evil and obsessed with the power of fireworks, but his dark path originated from his insecurity that couldn't even be filled, as he said himself, with all of China
Tai Lung represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A physical opponent, Po had to learn to overcome his weaknesses to become a Kung Fu Panda. Shen represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A mental opponent, Po had to overcome and accept his past to become a greater Kung Fu Panda. Kai represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A spiritual opponent, Po had to learn who he was and what he was meant to be in order to overcome his opponent and become the true Kung Fu Panda.
I don't think Kai would have had Shens chi, sense unlike other characters, it didn't seem like he would have the chi Kai would be looking for unlike other kung fu masters he caught and turned into his jombies
I actually like the sky motif and nightly battles that they use for Kung Fu Panda villains. For Tai Lung's, the skies were gray, dark, and stormy. Po defeats Tai Lung under the light of the sun. For Shen's, the clouds were crimson and dark as a setting sun. Po defeats Shen at sunrise For Kai's, the sky was gloomy, cold, snd jaded. Po defeats Kai in the brightness of the spirit realm upon mastering Chi
It's a big shame they left Kai's descend into darkness unexplained cause if his reasoning was to protect his brother but once this said brother betrayed him, he would realize no one loved him but himself, leading into his quest to acquire power and use it to protect himself was his actual backstory, he would be in par with both Tai Lung and Shen in the complexity department
What I find similar about these three is that in their own opinions their family figures (Shifu, Shen's Parents and Oogway) betrayed them and they just wanted to make them happy, but their thirst for more power corupted them and they underestimated their enemies resulting in their defeats.
Tai Lungs story also kinda explains why Shi Fu was so against Po becoming the dragon warrior. Not only his students were basically told "None of you are worthy of the thing you trained for all this time.", but this random, fat and unskilled Panda now was taking away the place he wanted his son to take.
I love Tai Lung and Shen cause they get this small moment where you get to see their mask fall and get a quick glimpse of seeing their pain, their lost due to them being rejected by their family and sadness until they quickly come back to being monsters again
He’s comical without it undermining the threat he carries as a villain and I like it. When you’re a genuine threat and a force of nature, you can afford to crack some jokes
it’s crazy how shen & kai are actually both against pandas cause shen knew that a warrior of black & white was going to defeat him & decided to hunt down pandas, plus for Kai he even wanted to steal chi from pandas & decided to turn into the dark side which is a crazy theory though
well Oogway's quote about destiny is basically rooted from Greek tragedies (e.g. "Oedipos Tyrannos", Danaë mentioned in "Antigone", Zeus's potential unseater in "Prometheus Desmotes") also headcanon Shen's research was probably originally alchemical in nature (i.e. *eternal life* if going by his way of thinking + how you defined 神), mirroring RL Taoist origins of the invention of gunpowder (火藥 lit. "fire medicine") green as an "evil" color is mostly a *Shakespearean invention (Othello & Merchant of Venice)* ; in China green (either 青 or 綠 depending on context) is a color associated with life & vitality, similar to neighboring cultures as well as the West in general also for the Chinese, high quality jade was *preferably light green to almost white* , not vegetable-esque green as most Westerners think
I was always curious about the snow leopards, like what happened years ago that would force them to abandon one child-Tai lung, given how he apparently had a sibling which I’m assuming they were the older one and they were able to grow up and have a child that also had natural talent for Kung fu
I like to think that each of Po’s villains helped him with a certain strength, Ti Lung being physical strength, Shen being his emotional & mental strength and Kai being his spiritual strength! And I think Oogway could have easily beat Kai, but he did say “it was never my destiny to stop you, I have set another on that path.”
In regards to Kai and the green color of taking Chi; "the more you take the less you have," quoting Oogway. When you take someone's Chi it corrupts the Chi and compresses it. When all you want it the stuff, you lose the value of what they stuff is. Hence why Kai couldn't take Po's Chi, because it was given and the none corrupted Chi. "...it's too much, too much..."
I’m stoked to see a video on this trilogy. Absolutely love Kung Fu Panda and definitely a set of movies you can watch over and over. I have to agree with previous comments that Tai Lung is the one you can relate with the most, but as for best villains I have to go with Kai because he’s not just relatable with that hurt of feeling “betrayed” and what length some will go through when they’ve been betrayed, but also one that was so close with the strongest kung fu master we seen with Oogway so we knew he was going to be beyond a threat leading to an amazing story. Truly such a a amazing trilogy which you had perfectly represented.
Shen will always have a place as the best KFP villain. KFP2 was one of the best movies I remember as a little kid lol. So much emotion and Shen is fucking badass
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOne That's not his backstory, because he and Oogway used to be war generals that conquered everything. It alludes that even Oogway committed atrocities in life.
Out of the three villains Shen is the most evil and selfish villains in Kung Fu Panda; he killed Po's parents, destroyed his his home, and causes pain to everyone around him. (Himself included)
In my opinion... Tai Lung did became the dragon warrior just not with the master's approval... His style was what I assume the warrior to be... He was in control until the last fight
This isn’t a prediction, per se, but I’d love if the next movie follows the redemption of Tai Lung. It’d be fire if an army of Snow Leopards invaded Po’s city, and it forces him to reflect on how he handled Tai Lung, outright killing him before understanding him first. One trip to the spirit realm, and Tai is still struggling with his history, with Shifu betraying him. Po attempts to reconcile with him throughout the film to mixed results. His arc can continue past this point, but for the movie it’d be really satisfying if he helped Po to ward off the people that abandoned him long before Shifu ever did. Even better if the one organizing the invasion was Tai’s mother, who unwillingly left him at the Master’s Temple after deciding she didn’t want a life of war for her son.
It’s odd to me that Oogway left the possibility of leaving the Spirit Realm on the table. Also odd is us learning the nature of what the Wu-Shi Finger Hold actually does. All in the third film, possibly a direct preceding to the fourth film coming up. It’s also never sat right with me that Tai Lung is so sympathetic compared to the other genocidal/ psychopathic villains that came after him. He deserves that redemption arc.
No but Tai Lung's face lightening once Shifu tells him he was always proud and that he's sorry that he lied to him throughout all those years ago. It's so goddamn good
It was weird that Chi would corrupt Kai; dude was already a legendary warrior and leader of armies so its not like he was corrupted by power; he already had it in spades.
I just realized that the story of Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 and the story of Fire Lord Sozen from Avatar: The Last Airbender are eerily similar. Both Sozen and Shen wanted an empire to rule over they wanted people to fear them and they wanted power so they did whatever it took to realize their efforts. they both discovered that someone who would try to stand in their way for Sozen It would be the next avatar for Shen, a warrior so they both committed genocide to ensure that would not happen. Sozen knew the next Avatar would be an Air Nomad so he set off to end them all while Shen knew the warrior would be a panda and did the same to the pandas. Fortunately the mother of the warrior panda sent him away so that he could grow up peacefully while the Avatar hid in Ice to avoid capture by the Fire Nation. They were both discovered by people for the panda it was his soon to be Adoptive Goose Father Mr. Ping for the Avatar two Water Tribe teens Sokka and Katara. Both the Avatar and Panda defeated their Tyrannical opponents and restored balance to the world.
sir, that's a crazy and mind-blowing parallel theory!!! i'm rewatching ATLA, and just watched KFP2 on TV...and the way you connected the similar plot structure is just amazing🤯👏🏻
@@gideonqwikfut4622 Damn thought so but Disney is The Biggest and Kung Fu Panda is so well known i jumped to that. Correction needed. Thanks for the heads up.
To be honest, Tai Lung is my favorite villain out of the core three villains from Kung Fu Panda. Like how the Incredible Hulk would be my favorite out of the six core Avengers.
Tai Lung's story is Shifu's failure, and even Ooogway. You can't push someone from childhood in only one direction and then be surprised when the push stops. He should have been taught balance and discipline and why his power should be used to protect others and not just himself.
Lord Shen is my all time fave ever villain of any animated film … he was so good and I loved him, I mean for a bird who is so loved, a peacock to be a villain … ICONIC
Wow! How did more than half and hour fly by like that! I’m not even a huge KFP fan but this was such an insightful and well summarised video of all the villains. I love the deep dive and the analysis of the depth of the antagonist in the story. Subscribed and I can’t wait to see the video after KFP 4 comes out!
Another reason why I like lord Shen, more than the other two villains is because he’s more connected to Po and he did more damage to Po then the other two did
Kung Fu Panda 4 spoilers I like how even Tai Lung accepted that Po was more worthy than he ever was to be the chosen as the Dragon Warrior 🐉 . Even bowing before him alongside his other enemies as a gesture of respect. Just shows that he wasn’t PURE EVIL deep down.
Kai was never a "good guy" or a war hero. They both were conquerors, Oogway was the one who had a change of heart in which is why Kai felt betrayed since Oogway didn't follow him with his path to conquest. Oogway most likely realized there was another way to make an impact in the world without violence in which translates to Kung fu well since Kung Fu is about Self-defense and usually is very defensive and reacting with your opponent's attacks.
Tai Lung:The Most Baddas😎Kung-fu Panda Villain Lord Shen:The Most Popular and Iconic Kung-fu Panda Villain Kai the Collector:The Most Powerful Kung-fu Panda Villain
never been a fan of shen. pun intended. but after this I see the deeper meaning behind him and I appreciate him more. Kai has been my favorite of the 3 for a while but there's something sad about Tai lungs ending. I wanted him to have a happy ending after the first movie. for him to be trained alongside the true dragon warrior and realize his mistakes.
Oogway did not purposely erase Kai's memories. In fact, Oogway wrote them down so that they would not be lost! Oogway was beloved because of how long he had lived and the good he had done. Could Oogway have persuaded Kai to use his newfound power in a better way than literally destroying innocent lives?
Hey Isaac, have you heard the new about Phineas and Ferb returning for two whole brand new seasons? Are you excited for it to? What do you expect to see in the new seasons?
I would honestly love to see Tai Lung coming back from the spirit world to get revenge. And if that didn't happen maybe having a relative of his come to show his worth because of his or her family name.
No he doesn't. He wasn't justified in attempted murder on Shifu's life and didn't hesitate to attempt and kill Po despite him trying to reason with him.
He doesnt, he try to murder everyone just bc he wasnt choose to be the dragon warrior, also he never showed anything good as a person ,so why he deserves a redemotion arc?
In April 2023, during CinemaCon, it was announced that Mike Mitchell will direct the film, with Stephanie Ma Stine as a co-director and Rebecca Huntley as a producer, while Jack Black revealed the story, which follows Po trying to find a new Dragon Warrior while facing a new villain, the Chameleon.
my ranking for the villains is: 1. Tai Lung 2. Kai 3. Lord Shen I know some ppl are gonna argue that lord shen is better than kai better i just like kai better, i understand that ppl are gonna say that he had the closest connection to the protagonist but this is my opinion and i just like kai better because he was just more intriguing to me and he had the best score, he was also way more stronger which mad him a bigger threat so yeah i just like him better.
allowing Tai Lung to return as a Villain, but perhaps a bit more spiritual, since he is already dead, it could be interesting. seeing as Ta Lung was incredibly powerful AND skilled, by then also being a Spirit Warrior, he could give Po the greatest and perhaps even last challenge of his life.
Its crazy how if someone just told Tai Lung "Yo you aren't a dragon warrior but you bassicaly are the second most knowledged Kung-Fu fighter IN HISTORY and thats badass!" That whole thing would have been avoided.
Wait, so the biggest villain of all is the goat lady. She knew he was listening in and knew that all the other pandas would be killed. That means she is the one who let him listen in, so the prophecy comes true!!!!
Just recently go into your channel and gosh do I love it! I enjoy the enthusiasm, the effort, the depth, and the full story told about our favorite movies growing up as kids and ones that will forever strum the heart strings of nostalgia.
I have a request can you do a video about Buster from Lady And The Tramp 2: Scamp's Adventure?
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Tai Lung, Shen and Kai represent body, mind and spirit, which are the 3 things you need to be a master of Kung Fu. And Po mastered and overcome each challenge they bring.
Holy Daaaaamn I never thought about that 😮
@@julianozaur444 All Po have to master is the heart.
we saw the same video analysis pal
I agreed
Kung Fu Panda: Tai Lung - tests Po’s physicality
Kung Fu Panda 2: Shen - tests Po’s mentality
Kung Fu Panda 3: Kai - tests Po’s spirituality
Kung Fu Panda 4: Death the Wolf - tests Po’s mortality
Out of all the villains, Tai Lung was the one who I sympathized with most, thus he is my favorite character
Tai lung is the most relatable
Then Kai, then Shen.
Same here I love and adore him
@@addictedtofauna3838 shen's just evil, he has no redeeming qualities.
And the best villain, number 2 going to Shen
There is something surprising realistic about a character like Shen, someone who commits atrocities because he thinks he’s above the consequences of them.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions in shen eyes
I only check the comments just to see some shen fanboys and wasn't surprised
@@shriderrad4123 he is nowhere near fanboy, he is enjoyer. Something you can't say about yourself
@@julianozaur444 Sounds just like what a fanboy would say.
@@shriderrad4123 sounds like someone looks for an Entertainment by trying to piss off someone else
Shen truly is the peak of dreamworks villains. What a fantastic character and he's a peacock! How many movies/shows can say they have a peacock as a villain, not many i assume.
Actually Gary Oldman is the reason why Shen is my most favourite of all villains in Kung Fu panda, he voiced Shen that brought him to life
The way Shen accepts his death when the cannon is falling on him really adds more depth to his character, it was not fear but it was like he knew what was about to happen and showed he had no more hope left for himself.
also symbolises the fact that the warrior in black and white that defeated him wasnt po it was himself
I remember a comment on Shen's death being that Shen was the warrior of black and white because when Po deflected that last cannon ball back at him, he was covered in soot and the ropes were cut because of him.
So in the end, he defeated himself.
Technically he did because everytime he would tell the wolves to fire he just kept giving more ammo to po
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Had anyone noticed each of the villains is connected to one of the heros
Tai Lung is connected to shifu
Lord shen is connected to po
Kai is connected to Master Oogway
You know it would make sense if The 4th villian would be connected to Tigress
That’s what makes them so great. They have personal connections and backstories that intertwine with the other characters, meaning conflict with them makes it all the more meaningful.
@@ValentinaMQuetzal technically tai lung is connected to tigress, both were raised with the mindset that they were gonna be the dragon warrior, the only difference is that tai lung chose to be evil because he wasnt chosen and tigress didnt rebel when she wasnt picked. Theyre like yin and yang
@@ValentinaMQuetzal What about the long term villian of the series
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I think the next villain should be the one with a vengeance against the original dragon warrior
I love Tai Lung by far over the other two main villains. He's more sympathetic than the other two, and his motives go beyond mere greed or power. He's also awesome because he's completely self reliant. He's self made, self built. He didn't cower behind goofy weapons, nor did he rely on bullcrap magic. All Tai Lung had was himself...and that's all he needed!!
Hes what? Self made? Was he not trained from childhood by a martial arts master? Oogway was self made; Tai was created.
He's not self made lol he was made by Shifu
Well he was po’s test of body while the others were mind and spirit and the next villain is heart
Did you watch ANY of the movies???
Firstly, he was not self-made not self built, shifu literally trained him everyday. And Kai most definitely doesn't Rely on bullcrap magic....The chi power is kung-fu itself, not to mention Tai Lung have no chance against Kai even in hand to hand combat + Shen was not cowering behing goofy weapons, he knew his weakness and made up for it using his brains making a machine that can send you to the spirit world in literal seconds...but Tai Lung would be too arrogant and proud to even acknowledge his weakness.
AND, His motives go beyond greed and power???? REALLY?? His backstory to why he became a villain was literally HIS GREED FOR POWER😆😆.
I hope you're joking....if not, then You should re-watch the trilogy and you should actually listen to what they said instead of simping over Tai Lung
Just being trained by someone does not make you a fighter. A coach/teacher will help you to have better technique, combos, drills, conditioning etc. But the majority of the work are done alone. Hitting them pads and heavy bags, sparring, getting hit, developed the ability to eat pain etc. Fighting is a solo journey and you gotta be iron both mind and body. Doesn't matter if you've the greatest coach in the world, if you're not willing to get hurt, you ain't gonna be great
Lord Shen is the most perfectly written villain of all time. Evil to the core, but still vulnerable enough to be emotionally scarred by his parents' disapproval.
No remorse, no regret, and no hesitation. He also has a well-defined mission and even gave excellent displays of passion and commitment.
Not to mention an excellent fighter, leader, strategist, intellectual, and always camera ready.
Lord Shen is the best!
I remember reading that Kung Fu panda will have 6 movies. I really believe that in one of the remaining movies, Tai lung is going to return and get a redemption arc. He deserves it, his nephew could help him change his ways. I think Tai lung coming back will help Shifu grow even more as a master so his return would be really iconic!
Only problem is that he is in the spirit realm
@@theshenpartei That didn’t stop Po, and Oogway alluded to the fact he himself might be able to it, but he never tried it.
No he is not going to come back Tai Lung is dead okay sorry but that is not going to happen Tai Lung is dead okay and here is the thing Tai Lung will not return to the mortal works because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so Tai Lung is dead
Adventurekitty 101 2.0 No Tai Lung will not be coming back the only reason Why Po came back is because he had the pandas chi he had Tigeress and Mr Prings chi and also he was a master of chi and also the only reason why General Kai returned is because he was a master of chi Tai Lung will not return because he is not as a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
The Shen Partal yes and he is also dead
You're one of the only channels that consistently covers KFP lore and you do it so well, thanks Isaac Carlson
And I hope you'll continue to make KFP videos...
Good luck with kungfu
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Tai lung was the most tragic and relatable. Shen was the most evil and had the most impact cause of his connection to Po. And Kai was just a solid villain with a connection to oogway but to me not the same as the other 2
Yeah same.
I like Kai. He’s a breath of fresh air compared to the other two villains. Not every villains needs a deep backstory or layered motive. Kai excels in theatrics, his charm and his abilities and that’s enough for me imo
I personally love how Shen is just pure evil and commits many atrocities out of fear to protect his own destiny, I guess that’s why he’s my favourite
Yes，he is so graceful and vicious
Pure evil would be someone who causes suffering for fun or who lacks the ability to process when they make someone suffer... So Shen is at least a step above that.
Tai Lung: Most Relatable
Kai: Most Powerful
Lord Shen: Most Evil
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@@TheMandaloreAnimationleast broken
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I always loved the different art styles used for the villains backstories. Tai Lung had the normal art style, Shen had a stop motion sort of vibe, and Kai had a comic-like style. Just thought it was cool.
Shen is one of the best villain in cartoons in my opinion, his backstory is honestly about how his parents failed to raise him by seemingly not giving him enough Love, thats something most people might experience, his defeat and realization also showed us an example of someone realizing they're bad but they still do the things they do because they simply fell too deep, they are in on it and they feel like they can't get out, they have no other choice, but there is always a choice
That's not a cartoon, that's a trilogy about a movie
@therealrtx5645 no there's a difference
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOnethere is it’s animated so there for cartoon, a cartoon is anything that is animated either 2D or 3D animation. So there’s a difference.
Tai Lung is relatable on a humane level because he perfected himself just to make Shifu proud, and he feels like his right to become the Dragon Warrior has been stripped away from him.
Shen was always viewed negatively by his parents, who loved him unconditionally, and he found solace in the destructive capability of gunpowder. And he manipulatively mirrored it to Po, who wanted to know the truth about his own past. But Po, after gaining inner peace, managed to move forward from the tragedy unlike Shen. I think he and Death from ‘Puss in Boots 2’ are some of the best villains created by DreamWorks.
Kai walked along with Oogway all his life until he was corrupted by the power of qi, and used the dark side of qi to get glory and fame like Oogway, or even more than him.
A really cool compilation of the Kung Fu Panda trilogy, Isaac; it’s my favourite DreamWorks film series. Can you do another DreamWorks film theory video, like Madagascar or Puss in Boots, please??
I'm a little sad for kai because oogway never told him what are the good and bad things he did but just killed him
@@Walnut-1 he never killed him you dummy, he was banished in the spirit world and then taken by Kai
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOne The spirit realm is the afterlife, Kai was killed by Oogway and became a spirit.
The irony with Oogway and Kai is that Kai didn't actually lose his way. It was Oogway who changed from a destructive warlord into a being of harmony and good.
Kai is underrated, but Shen and Tai Lung are just on a whole different level.
Agreed
Tai Lung was one of the very few to master the 1000 scrolls of Kung Fu next to Oogway himself and is shown that Tai actually mastered chi but in a dark way,to learn chi he mostly learned it from Oogway, it had to be taught by someone who already knew how to control it aka Pandas, the Pandas after Shens invasion became lazy, and lost the secrets of their martial arts, Tai knew the Pandas that the world knew were gone by the time he learned how to control chi so when he sees the Dragon Warrior is none other than a Panda it legit looks like a joke
“He’s the Dragon Warrior?! Him??? He’s a Panda, YOUR A PANDA. What are you gonna do big guy sit on me??”
Po: proceeds to sit on him.
I wish the franchise would have consciously acknowledged the parallels between Tai Lung and Tigress.
Yeah both look similar
Fun Fact: In real life, of all the big cats, snow leopards and tigers are the closest relatives in terms of DNA structure and all!
I feel it's important to point out how it seems shen accepted his death when it finally came.
Idk if this is factual but I remember once reading that Shen's backstory was that he was always viewed as being sick and weak due to him being albino
That would only make his story even more tragic as he didnt just grow evil and obsessed with the power of fireworks, but his dark path originated from his insecurity that couldn't even be filled, as he said himself, with all of China
Tai Lung represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A physical opponent, Po had to learn to overcome his weaknesses to become a Kung Fu Panda.
Shen represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A mental opponent, Po had to overcome and accept his past to become a greater Kung Fu Panda.
Kai represented an obstacle to Po’s journey into becoming the dragon warrior. A spiritual opponent, Po had to learn who he was and what he was meant to be in order to overcome his opponent and become the true Kung Fu Panda.
In my opinion it would have been awesome! To see kai unleash tai lung and shen as his jombies in the final battle to show how far po has grown!
I don't think Kai would have had Shens chi, sense unlike other characters, it didn't seem like he would have the chi Kai would be looking for unlike other kung fu masters he caught and turned into his jombies
@@jayflare7580 he turned the furious 5 how wouldn't he?
The Prison Breakout scene with Tai Lung will always be my favourite from these movies
I actually like the sky motif and nightly battles that they use for Kung Fu Panda villains.
For Tai Lung's, the skies were gray, dark, and stormy. Po defeats Tai Lung under the light of the sun.
For Shen's, the clouds were crimson and dark as a setting sun. Po defeats Shen at sunrise
For Kai's, the sky was gloomy, cold, snd jaded. Po defeats Kai in the brightness of the spirit realm upon mastering Chi
It's a big shame they left Kai's descend into darkness unexplained cause if his reasoning was to protect his brother but once this said brother betrayed him, he would realize no one loved him but himself, leading into his quest to acquire power and use it to protect himself was his actual backstory, he would be in par with both Tai Lung and Shen in the complexity department
What I find similar about these three is that in their own opinions their family figures (Shifu, Shen's Parents and Oogway) betrayed them and they just wanted to make them happy, but their thirst for more power corupted them and they underestimated their enemies resulting in their defeats.
Tai Lungs story also kinda explains why Shi Fu was so against Po becoming the dragon warrior. Not only his students were basically told "None of you are worthy of the thing you trained for all this time.", but this random, fat and unskilled Panda now was taking away the place he wanted his son to take.
What’s crazy about tai lung is that he was trapped in an immovable state for decades yet proceeds to clap everyone he came across until he met po
Tai Lung was the unstoppable force until Po became the immovable object.
I love Tai Lung and Shen cause they get this small moment where you get to see their mask fall and get a quick glimpse of seeing their pain, their lost due to them being rejected by their family and sadness until they quickly come back to being monsters again
I like Kai the most because he is probably the strongest out of any of the villains but yet he’s so comical
He’s comical without it undermining the threat he carries as a villain and I like it. When you’re a genuine threat and a force of nature, you can afford to crack some jokes
it’s crazy how shen & kai are actually both against pandas cause shen knew that a warrior of black & white was going to defeat him & decided to hunt down pandas, plus for Kai he even wanted to steal chi from pandas & decided to turn into the dark side which is a crazy theory though
My absolute favorite animated film series... I've been a martial artist myself for 32 years... and the stories speak volumes to me!
well Oogway's quote about destiny is basically rooted from Greek tragedies (e.g. "Oedipos Tyrannos", Danaë mentioned in "Antigone", Zeus's potential unseater in "Prometheus Desmotes")
also headcanon Shen's research was probably originally alchemical in nature (i.e. *eternal life* if going by his way of thinking + how you defined 神), mirroring RL Taoist origins of the invention of gunpowder (火藥 lit. "fire medicine")
green as an "evil" color is mostly a *Shakespearean invention (Othello & Merchant of Venice)* ; in China green (either 青 or 綠 depending on context) is a color associated with life & vitality, similar to neighboring cultures as well as the West in general
also for the Chinese, high quality jade was *preferably light green to almost white* , not vegetable-esque green as most Westerners think
I was always curious about the snow leopards, like what happened years ago that would force them to abandon one child-Tai lung, given how he apparently had a sibling which I’m assuming they were the older one and they were able to grow up and have a child that also had natural talent for Kung fu
Lord Shen attacked them because they were Balck and white
Just a theory
Tai Lung: Amazing Character.
Lord Shen: Extremely Evil.
Kai: Literally Kratos.
Honestly, Tai Lung should get his own movie. Where he was born, why he was abandoned, how he was trainend, how he fall and went to prison.
Tai Lung and Lord Shen were the Kung Fu Panda Trilogy's greatest villains they have tragic backstories
I like to think that each of Po’s villains helped him with a certain strength, Ti Lung being physical strength, Shen being his emotional & mental strength and Kai being his spiritual strength!
And I think Oogway could have easily beat Kai, but he did say “it was never my destiny to stop you, I have set another on that path.”
In regards to Kai and the green color of taking Chi; "the more you take the less you have," quoting Oogway.
When you take someone's Chi it corrupts the Chi and compresses it. When all you want it the stuff, you lose the value of what they stuff is. Hence why Kai couldn't take Po's Chi, because it was given and the none corrupted Chi. "...it's too much, too much..."
I’m stoked to see a video on this trilogy. Absolutely love Kung Fu Panda and definitely a set of movies you can watch over and over. I have to agree with previous comments that Tai Lung is the one you can relate with the most, but as for best villains I have to go with Kai because he’s not just relatable with that hurt of feeling “betrayed” and what length some will go through when they’ve been betrayed, but also one that was so close with the strongest kung fu master we seen with Oogway so we knew he was going to be beyond a threat leading to an amazing story. Truly such a a amazing trilogy which you had perfectly represented.
Shen could also be considered a warrior of black and white, so ironically, he was defeated by himself, like in the movie
Tai Lung = Best Fighter 💪
Lord Shen = Best Villain 😈
Kai = Best Theme 🎶
True
Shen will always have a place as the best KFP villain. KFP2 was one of the best movies I remember as a little kid lol. So much emotion and Shen is fucking badass
@@AloIan_Vulpix true but Tai Lung is a nice villain too
@Cartoonist Louis to be fair Kai's backstory is lame because it's just a villain who wanted more powers
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOne That's not his backstory, because he and Oogway used to be war generals that conquered everything.
It alludes that even Oogway committed atrocities in life.
In an alternate universe
"He would be defeated by a warrior of black, and white"
*Shen goes on to commit genocide on the Zebras*
This comment is so underrated
I'm kinda sad Kai never used Tai Lung in a fight.
He needed tai lung chi
@@loveladii69 He had Tai Lung's chi, he just never used it.
@@milansoltesz9395 no he needed tai lung chi for power
It's like when he make it into jade people they have their own power taking away his
I see, well it could be a logical explonation.
Lord shen is similar to Voldemort. Two villains who tried to escape their destiny but they only sealed it with their awful actions
If Shen hadn't eavesdropped on the prediction, then it might have been different, perhaps Shen would have expected a better future.
Out of the three villains Shen is the most evil and selfish villains in Kung Fu Panda; he killed Po's parents, destroyed his his home, and causes pain to everyone around him. (Himself included)
many don't realize that shen was defeated by a warrior of black and white, himself.
I always believed someone would have mentioned that in the movie.
In my opinion... Tai Lung did became the dragon warrior just not with the master's approval... His style was what I assume the warrior to be... He was in control until the last fight
This isn’t a prediction, per se, but I’d love if the next movie follows the redemption of Tai Lung.
It’d be fire if an army of Snow Leopards invaded Po’s city, and it forces him to reflect on how he handled Tai Lung, outright killing him before understanding him first.
One trip to the spirit realm, and Tai is still struggling with his history, with Shifu betraying him. Po attempts to reconcile with him throughout the film to mixed results.
His arc can continue past this point, but for the movie it’d be really satisfying if he helped Po to ward off the people that abandoned him long before Shifu ever did.
Even better if the one organizing the invasion was Tai’s mother, who unwillingly left him at the Master’s Temple after deciding she didn’t want a life of war for her son.
It’s odd to me that Oogway left the possibility of leaving the Spirit Realm on the table. Also odd is us learning the nature of what the Wu-Shi Finger Hold actually does.
All in the third film, possibly a direct preceding to the fourth film coming up.
It’s also never sat right with me that Tai Lung is so sympathetic compared to the other genocidal/ psychopathic villains that came after him.
He deserves that redemption arc.
No but Tai Lung's face lightening once Shifu tells him he was always proud and that he's sorry that he lied to him throughout all those years ago. It's so goddamn good
ikr like Tai Lung still has some goodness in him, even if it were for a fraction of a second
Isaac, do the Full Backstory of Mr. Big please? That'd be a fun one especially since we now know he had involvement with the creation of Tundratown.
Just watch the Godfather 2 =)
It was weird that Chi would corrupt Kai; dude was already a legendary warrior and leader of armies so its not like he was corrupted by power; he already had it in spades.
Losing the last battle and almost his brother
so he need more power to never lose again
@@الفاتحالشابي there no way there related there just best friends
Thats what paranoia does.
@@loveladii69 They both had a brotherly bond though. We need to understand the theory though.
Thanks for nailing them all down. You did a great job man.👍😎
its so good am in love u just needed some music in the back
but this is gold well done dude
I just realized that the story of Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 and the story of Fire Lord Sozen from Avatar: The Last Airbender are eerily similar. Both Sozen and Shen wanted an empire to rule over they wanted people to fear them and they wanted power so they did whatever it took to realize their efforts. they both discovered that someone who would try to stand in their way for Sozen It would be the next avatar for Shen, a warrior so they both committed genocide to ensure that would not happen. Sozen knew the next Avatar would be an Air Nomad so he set off to end them all while Shen knew the warrior would be a panda and did the same to the pandas. Fortunately the mother of the warrior panda sent him away so that he could grow up peacefully while the Avatar hid in Ice to avoid capture by the Fire Nation. They were both discovered by people for the panda it was his soon to be Adoptive Goose Father Mr. Ping for the Avatar two Water Tribe teens Sokka and Katara. Both the Avatar and Panda defeated their Tyrannical opponents and restored balance to the world.
sir, that's a crazy and mind-blowing parallel theory!!! i'm rewatching ATLA, and just watched KFP2 on TV...and the way you connected the similar plot structure is just amazing🤯👏🏻
Aang reminds me of Po
The Fight between Tia Lung and Kai was probably the most epic destructive and devastating Fight ever that we never got to see.
COME ON DREAMWORKS.
Kung-fu panda is DreamWorks
@@gideonqwikfut4622 Damn thought so but Disney is The Biggest and Kung Fu Panda is so well known i jumped to that.
Correction needed.
Thanks for the heads up.
@@rodan9773 no problemo
To be honest, Tai Lung is my favorite villain out of the core three villains from Kung Fu Panda. Like how the Incredible Hulk would be my favorite out of the six core Avengers.
I feel like I have the most empathy for Tai Lung. He's a great character, and I think Shen is a close second.
Tai Lung's story is Shifu's failure, and even Ooogway. You can't push someone from childhood in only one direction and then be surprised when the push stops. He should have been taught balance and discipline and why his power should be used to protect others and not just himself.
Just blame Oogway for Tai's madness
They should have taught him more on what you just said rather than just fighting
Shen accepted his death, in his last seconds you could see it. I guess his emotional pain was over
Lord Shen is my all time fave ever villain of any animated film … he was so good and I loved him, I mean for a bird who is so loved, a peacock to be a villain … ICONIC
Fr and his story is kinda sad....
Wow! How did more than half and hour fly by like that! I’m not even a huge KFP fan but this was such an insightful and well summarised video of all the villains. I love the deep dive and the analysis of the depth of the antagonist in the story. Subscribed and I can’t wait to see the video after KFP 4 comes out!
Another reason why I like lord Shen, more than the other two villains is because he’s more connected to Po and he did more damage to Po then the other two did
These are the common villains shown in these kind of videos, but what about Fenghuang? The owl that was part of the first five and became evil?
Kung Fu Panda 4 spoilers
I like how even Tai Lung accepted that Po was more worthy than he ever was to be the chosen as the Dragon Warrior 🐉 . Even bowing before him alongside his other enemies as a gesture of respect. Just shows that he wasn’t PURE EVIL deep down.
When Oogway said, "The more you take, the less you have." It was a moment frfr
Shens voice actor was really amazing.
They all were
Kai was never a "good guy" or a war hero.
They both were conquerors, Oogway was the one who had a change of heart in which is why Kai felt betrayed since Oogway didn't follow him with his path to conquest. Oogway most likely realized there was another way to make an impact in the world without violence in which translates to Kung fu well since Kung Fu is about Self-defense and usually is very defensive and reacting with your opponent's attacks.
Tai Lung:The Most Baddas😎Kung-fu Panda Villain Lord Shen:The Most Popular and Iconic Kung-fu Panda Villain Kai the Collector:The Most Powerful Kung-fu Panda Villain
never been a fan of shen. pun intended. but after this I see the deeper meaning behind him and I appreciate him more. Kai has been my favorite of the 3 for a while but there's something sad about Tai lungs ending. I wanted him to have a happy ending after the first movie. for him to be trained alongside the true dragon warrior and realize his mistakes.
Oogway did not purposely erase Kai's memories. In fact, Oogway wrote them down so that they would not be lost! Oogway was beloved because of how long he had lived and the good he had done. Could Oogway have persuaded Kai to use his newfound power in a better way than literally destroying innocent lives?
The moment you try to change your fate is the moment you seal it.
I hope Tai Lung finds peace in the spirit realm.
Thank you for posting the video. I've always wondered about the villains in the "Kung Fu Panda" movies.
Hey Isaac, have you heard the new about Phineas and Ferb returning for two whole brand new seasons? Are you excited for it to? What do you expect to see in the new seasons?
Omg
your explanations of characters are amazing bro rs i’ve never seen somebody be able to get the message across as well as you have
I would honestly love to see Tai Lung coming back from the spirit world to get revenge. And if that didn't happen maybe having a relative of his come to show his worth because of his or her family name.
you got a point cuz some times peppele say that kai is weak but he can take chi
I hope Ty Lung gets a Redemption Arc. He deserves it.
Yeah well sorry but it is not going to happen because Tai Lung is dead
No he doesn't. He wasn't justified in attempted murder on Shifu's life and didn't hesitate to attempt and kill Po despite him trying to reason with him.
He doesnt, he try to murder everyone just bc he wasnt choose to be the dragon warrior, also he never showed anything good as a person ,so why he deserves a redemotion arc?
I came upon your vid when the KFP4 trailer came out today; wonderful energy and content!! And a great catch up for the 3 prior movies. Thank you!!
In April 2023, during CinemaCon, it was announced that Mike Mitchell will direct the film, with Stephanie Ma Stine as a co-director and Rebecca Huntley as a producer, while Jack Black revealed the story, which follows Po trying to find a new Dragon Warrior while facing a new villain, the Chameleon.
This is epic excellent work dude.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
I thank the 2am UA-cam algorithms for suggesting this to me, I never knew I needed this information. Amazing video btw!
my ranking for the villains is:
1. Tai Lung
2. Kai
3. Lord Shen
I know some ppl are gonna argue that lord shen is better than kai better i just like kai better, i understand that ppl are gonna say that he had the closest connection to the protagonist but this is my opinion and i just like kai better because he was just more intriguing to me and he had the best score, he was also way more stronger which mad him a bigger threat so yeah i just like him better.
allowing Tai Lung to return as a Villain, but perhaps a bit more spiritual, since he is already dead, it could be interesting. seeing as Ta Lung was incredibly powerful AND skilled, by then also being a Spirit Warrior, he could give Po the greatest and perhaps even last challenge of his life.
Fun Fact: Kai in Maori/Te Reo means food which is a funny way of thinking about the villain
I swear all three of them had something to do with the major characters past, like Tai Lung with Shi Fu, Shen with Po and Kai with Oogway
This guy went real deep into cartoon villains
What in the world! I went back to where you showed Tai Lung's little green thing and I actually saw it!
Seems like the smart thing for kai to do in that final battle was to use Oogways chi for that final battle.
Now imagine that the way you explained Kai was executed well in Kung Fu Panda 3
Would've made Kai much more of a memorable villain
In my opinion
Kai deserved better imo
29:40 “Tai Lung had his chi stolen”
UA-cam captions: “Tai Long had his cheese stolen”
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I always thought kai made his blades from the double blades weapon that oogway broke in half. Guess i might be wrong 😅
I love the Kung fu Panda franchise it has awesome characters and villains thanks for making videos Isaac ❤
I will admit my most favourite character was Tai Lung, but my most favourite villain boss music was when po fought with Kai the song was pretty good
Its crazy how if someone just told Tai Lung "Yo you aren't a dragon warrior but you bassicaly are the second most knowledged Kung-Fu fighter IN HISTORY and thats badass!" That whole thing would have been avoided.
I don’t know about that
Wait, so the biggest villain of all is the goat lady. She knew he was listening in and knew that all the other pandas would be killed. That means she is the one who let him listen in, so the prophecy comes true!!!!