Shen’s Tragic Full Story: Kung Fu Panda's Complex Villain
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2020
- Today we are going to examine the tragedy of Gongmen City’s prince: Lord Shen. Finally we are going to go through every phase of his life to understand this extremely complex, misguided, and lost villain. How did he go down such a dark path in Kung Fu Panda 2? Why was he unwilling to let go of his desire to destroy Po? Why did he hate his parents? We are going to go through the life of Shen.
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Shen's story is a perfect example of "A person often meets his fate on the road he took to avoid it".
@@alsoastro there are several versions of the phrase, I think the quote was in French? I just rote down the first one I saw
yes
Often we take the choice most definitely if it is from fear that is set upon us...
Well, that felt so much out of my usual speaking😂😂
that was....deep
Like Lord Voldemort
It is kinda sad when Shen just closes his eyes and accepts fate. He does not have fear at that moment just sadness and defeat.
I felt sad too. Mainly because I loved every moment he was on screen and deep down, I secretly wish he won (jk but not rly). I will say, that moment was probably the closest shen every got to inner peace, because he had last accepted his fate.
@@ingeneous_overlord1459 and po also wasn’t mean to him even though shen killed his mother and made his father lost for years and still was kind
Yeah that was sad
I feel bad for shen
That makes sense, as he was already defeated at that point. He was very prideful and egotistical, so losing like that was too much.
According to the creators, Shen was neglected by his parents due to his poor health as albino peacock, so they left him to be raised by the Soothsayer. And according to China myths, white color is a sign of bad luck.
Where did you find that information Veronica?
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@@IsaacCarlson He also apparently cared for the wolves to a undisclosed amount during his time in Gongmen city according to IMDB
“Jammy Gamer, old friend”
White is actually symbolism of death in China.
Shen is a good example of an African Proverb “A child who is not embraced by a village will burn it to feel the warmth.”
It's pretty awesome proverb
I thought the quote was from naruto lol
Now THAT’S bonechilling……
I still salute with both hands that wolf who stood with Shen all the way through until he went against him because he wanted to hurt his pack
He made a noble sacrifice
Wotso Videos that part really hurt me when I watched it the first time.
That mf came from the streets which I think is a cool backstory
Wolf boss is still alive
In a commentary by the makers, it was confirmed that he survived the knife and that he "just fell". So yeah, great for our favorite wolf boss.
Kung fu panda: Physical strength+Shifu’s past= tai lung
Kung fu panda 2: mental strength+Po’s past= Lord Shen
Kung fu panda 3: spiritual strength+Oogway’s past= Kai
I like this
I wonder what 4 will be
I see 😄 !
good math
Soul Bound I think it’s about the Chakra’s. Maybe something Po will invent, I mean all other things Po learned was invented by someone else, Kung fu was invented by Oogway as well as inner peace, and giving chi was something the pandas invented but as Shifu said, Po learned everything in an really young age so I see Po learning to do something not even Oogway did, Master his Chakra’s. That form of Kung fu would be Po’s OWN thing! It wouldn’t be something someone else knows so Po wouldn’t be able to know anything about except for discovering its true potential and then learning that to others. Even Oogway would happily ask if he can learn it and congratulate Po as surpassing Oogway as his successor.
"Thats the thing Shen, Scars heal"
"No they don't, wounds heal"
"Oh yeah, what do scars do, fade or something "
"I don't care what scars do"
Best line in the movie lol
“This, it’s a parting gift. Part of you here, part of you there, part of you waaaaay! over there staining the wall!” - Also best line.
@@mrgodzilla5677 creepy line yet slightly funny
@@mrgodzilla5677 best line
CaptainCreature 🤣🤣🤣
You should, Shen. You gotta let go that stuff from the past, cause it just doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what you choose to be now.
After Shen killed Master Rhino, I knew unfortunately that he wasn't redeemable. He stole his title back unrightfully. What Shen needed was inner peace but the darkness in his heart was too much. This killed him.
Great analysis. I agree. He allowed himself to continue to fall
It’s just a cartoon 😂
Is that why he always scared me when I was younger? ;-;
Yup !
He was just really focused on his path.
However if was to some how survive the cannon falling on him i wouldn't consider him unredeemable especially considering how he came to accept his fate at the last moments and knowing his 30 year long plan simply didn't work
Shen may have felt that his parents didn't love him after his banishment, but what he doesn't know is that banishment was the most merciful act his parents ever did, that it drove them to suicide thinking that their son will never forgive them. If it was someone else who massacred half of the pandas they would be imprisoned, or worse, sentenced to death.
I don't think his parents committed suicide. I think they just flat out died because banishing him made them fall into such a deep state of despair that they just died from it. Some people can just flat out die like that because they mentally lose the will to live and it can have a toll on their health.
It had to have something to do with his childhood, not just his banishment that would make Shen think and believe that his parents never loved him. Such as being born sickly and different as an albino peacock according to the original content that would have made a whole lot of sense for his descent into madness.
@@Disneyfan82 It seems like a small thing, but the treatment albino creatures need versus what they get tends to be grossly desparate (including humans) and often has a domino effect on their lives.
I dont think the committed suicide
@@robonaught I agree
Look at Shen’s face when the canon is about to fall on and kill Shen, He accepted his fate. Also, we all know Shen is the color white. And when Po hit him with his own fireball, he was covered in soot thus, turning him black. Po didn’t defeat Shen, Shen defeated himself giving up and letting himself die
I wouldn't say Shen defeated himself he only accidently took his own life. Po had already defeated Shen by the time the wolf army was gone and all his canons were destroyed with no one or nothing to command. Po beating Shen wouldn't necessarily mean that he'd have to kill the peacock cause that's not in the panda's character or the nature of a hero.
He dind't gave up, he knew he had gone to far to stop
Less giving up more accepting the hand that life had dealt
ProfesserUniverse
He intentionally cut the rope, he wanted to stop but it was far to late and want someone to stop him
It's a pretty dark story actually
*Plot twist theory:* During that final fight against Po Shen had cut the support ropes on purpose. Not in a attempt to kill Po, but to commit suicide. He already knew he lost everything and deep down he felt nothing but sorrow and guilt for all the terrible decisions he has made. So he decided to commit suicide by pretending to fight Po in a final battle. Somehow he knew what Po said to him was right.
Po: *"All that stuff from the past doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what you chose to be now"*
But at the same time Shen also knew that what he said to Po was right.
Shen: *"Scars don't heal"*
And Shen had been inflicting scars on not only Po and the rest China, but also on himself. He only realized the errors of his ways at the final moment during that final discussion with Po. But he felt so guilty that he just couldn't live with himself due to all the horrible things he's done. Even if he wanted to be redeemed he just knew that it wouldn't erase all the terrible decisions he made and all the people/animals he traumatized. So he decided to do the one thing to fix the problem. In one last action Shen has committed suicide by pretending to attack Po.
*All because he couldn't heal his own scars*
This is a theory that I made up. I put a lot of thought into this. Some people would call me out and say I'm wrong but it's their choice to believe it or not. Shen was such an interesting villain that I felt completely fascinated with. I would say he's one of my favorite Villains next to Syndrome. Even though they are both from different companies.
Raven this theory does make sense and it really does have its points.I don’t think this theory is stupid.
This is a very interesting theory
@@Mooffgamesgamer thanks you very much.
@@OceanAce Thank you.
This theory is so incredible and makes so much sense! I can see it as pure truth and cannon! It hurts even more than he just died in a fight because he didn't want to change, he was so lost and confused, took the wrong path and let it to destroy him :'(
Shen is an awesome villain. Being voiced by Gary Oldman definitely helps.
What REALLY 😲that's so cool! Gary Oldman is the best
And he was in cod world at war playing viktor reznov and in JFK as the pasty lee Harvey Oswald and was the best Winston Churchill in darkest hour
Chase Hedges67 didn’t hear play commissioner Gordon
@@noahsmith4877 yeah
Chase Hedges67 but why does he sound different
These are not in the movie, but two more things add to his desperate need to rise above everyone and prove himself:
1. He was born very weak and the reason the Soothsayer became his nanny was to heal him. He couldn’t leave the Tower as a child... so obviously he hated it.
2. His white color as you said symbolizes death and the other noble peacocks marked his as a bad omen and unfit to inherit a throne. Shen couldn’t forget, that there is something fundamentally wrong with him, what he can’t change and he furiously tried to prove them wrong too by becoming Emperor.
Poor Shen...😔
this looks like the story of emperor willhelm 2
@@therealrtx5645the German Emperor in WW1?
In the end, I think Shen's death is a perfect symbol for his life. Blinded by his desire to achieve his goal (albeit misguidedly), Shen cut the connections that kept his life together (horrifying his parents, leaving the only home he'd ever known, wrongfully regaining his title, etc.), without ever regarding the consequences of his actions. In the end, when he realized what he had done, it was already too late.
I agree. It’s a final illustration “that one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it”. That’s pretty much the core of Shen’s character, and I think it was a satisfying way to end his story.
Not only that but I think the fate that the Soothsayer foretold "A warrior of black and white" could also mean Shen himself instead of Po. Less literal but more metaphorically, Shen was white on the outside but black on the inside.
You forgot to mention Shen being born albino which caused his parents to neglect him and leave his upbringing to his nanny the Soothsayer. Also how he closed his eyes and accepted his death at the end, even though he had plenty of room and time to escape like Po did. Shen just wanted his suffering to end, the cannon was the perfect irony to do so.
I was very...hurt when Shen came home from murdering the pandas and he looked at his parents with such joy and enthusiasm. The look on his face was saying “Look what I did! Aren’t you proud?” But when he saw his parents’ horror, he looked broken and confused. He thought he was doing the right thing, but his parents didnt agree.
I remembered loki from thor....he was lost like this too
The thing that gets me about Shen is that even though he discovered the destructive properties of the gunpowder he was never taught that he shouldn't use those properties or that such power should be only used a certain way, they instead decided to just ask the sooth sayer and that prophecy is what truly lead him down that road. If he had never over heard that prophecy he would never have attacked the pandas and could have been lead down a proper path. The parents may have cared but it was because they choose to look for a prophecy instead of just teaching him he headed down the wrong path. They cannot be blamed for him continuing it but they are the reason he started. I imagine he didn't know the prophecy was about him being evil only that someone stops his rule, the very thing he's been taught that he was supposed to do when he grew up. Perspective matters a lot especially when talking about a grow child(?(it never said his age)).
i like to imagine Shen wasn't even evil. He just got understandably frightened and then took what he thought was the right action of defending the throne.
If you think genocide is your best option you are already pretty evil. I think at that point Shen already had the ambition to conquer China. He was under the mad impression that he needed to be a conquerer to be happy so he interpreted the prophecy as a panda ruining his life. I wonder why the soothsayer never set out to follow Shen after he was banished if she really cared for him. Maybe she could have changed his mind with enough time. But maybe she did not want to do that. Maybe she wanted to rule the city instead. Perhaps she even made sure that Shen would overhear the prophecy hmmmmm
@@Avatarbee nah i think its bc it was her home and since she saw the prophecy wasnt changed, she stayed and waited for his return. Though, i think she feared he would be worse than before and she didnt know the exact time of his arrival
when Shen discovered the cannonball i think he was already a young adult. it's very hard to tell someone that age to step down especially considering his past and ability, which makes consulting the sooth sayer the most logical approach
I think shen was forty because he destroyed the pandas when he was 20 before po became 20 and was just a baby panda
Shen is definitely my favorite character in the whole Kung Fu Panda series. His design is fantastic, voice spot on, and involvement in Po’s story.
And I have a suggestion? Would you be doing a story on the Light Fury from the Hidden World? She is a good character and I don’t think people like her because of her splitting up Hiccup and Toothless.
Shen may have a tragic story
But his complicated character is what makes him my fav character.
He's my one of chinese favorite villain, along side with Tai Lung and Kai!
I don't like the Light Fury because me personally I feel she doesn't have any actual character outside of being just "girl dragon" for Toothless to fall in love with. Also THW just overall felt super OOC and went against everything the characters stood for in the first two movies, which is why Toothless and Hiccup separating just felt confusing to me, the story's plot just did not feel like that good of a reason for the two to just split up like that, or for dragonkind to split up with vikings in general.
Shen miscalculated one thing about Po his plot armor
And his Gary Stu-ness.
@@PlanetZoidstar Po is no where near a Gary Stu. He has flaws, and that makes him NOT a Gary Stu. And of course he has "plot armor", what would a story be without a plot? The hero needs to survive until the end, in a movie meant for families with children! And Po surviving all that crap isn't hard to believe in the universe he's in. It's a very cartoony world, they survive battles that would kill anyone in this reality. His "plot armor" here makes enough sense.
@@iclynnx Gary Stus can have flaws. The problem is Po's flaws do not really hold him back. He is able to defeat Tai Lung with a fraction of the training of the Furious Five. And he just so happened to have the perfect counter to Tai Lung's paralysis move.
And he is able to achieve Inner Peace at a young age. Where Kung Fu masters like Shifu have not managed that. Shifu himself acknowledges that. Po barely needs to try to achieve feats no other Kung Fu warrior has been able to do, and he makes it look comparatively easy.
Yes, it's a very cartoony world, but the other characters seem more restricted by the feats they can pull off. Po is THE most powerful character in his universe, in spite of his lack of training, he makes it seem these amazing feats just come naturally to him.
THAT makes Po a Garu Stu. He succeeds in spite of his flaws and surpasses Kung Fu masters who have trained their entire lives. He becomes The Dragon Warrior through dumb luck. Being in the right place at the right time. Plus he is literally The Chosen One as of Kung Fu Panda 2.
Bingo
People are really overusing the word plot armour to the point it's lost all meaning. Po didn't have plot armour, he survived because his mum sacrificed herself. And in the third movie it's proven that he isn't the only one, there's an entire panda village
Despite having red in his feathers, the two other major colors Shen has are white and black. I think the soothsayer was saying that he'd be his own downfall in a sense.
It make sense the fact that he hated himself.
I think Its less of actual colours and more of a representation. Shen is white on the outside, but black on the inside. Thus black and white is Shen
11:51 I disagree. For once he fully realizes what he is doing. He feels like he has nothing left to live for. He cuts the cords on purpose so that Po won’t detain him. This is evident as he accepts looks at his weapon and accepts his death allowing the very weapon that he built to destroy, destroy himself. It’s poetic as for once in his life his destruction led to what he wanted instead of having unintended consequences. Dark for a dream works movie I know.
Edit: Also Shen in In his final moments as he looked up at the weapon that fell and crushed him finally felt happy for the first time in a long time after he got kicked out by his parents. He died happy as he finally accepted his fate that he himself set out. In short he came to peace knowing his actions were wrong and the initial cause of his unhappiness, finally coming to terms with himself.
Jonathan M You say that as if your fully right, at least say it’s your opinion instead of acting as if it’s a hundred percent true
Fluffo Doggo I’m always right.
All jokes aside though I didn’t intend that comment to be that way. The key words at the beginning being “I disagree.” This means I disagree with your viewpoint, this is mines and how I saw the scene. I provide evidence that supports my viewpoint but in no way making the only correct viewpoint. In no way does this statement claim I’m right or wrong.
It’s a movie. The beauty of movies are that different people will interpret scenes in a certain way. Especially in a scene left open such as this one.
So I don’t know why you are attacking me.
My intitial comment wasn’t attacking the content creator in anyway either. I just shared how I saw it and I’m sure he is open to hearing what others think. I don’t know how you see this as an attack as if I’m saying “your video is bad because I disagree.” I enjoyed the video. If I did not I would not have took the time to make such a comment sharing my viewpoint on this particular scene. Video was well made. The comment section was created to share ideas based on the video. I literally used it for the right purpose. I’m sure if the content creator didn’t want us to share our ideas he would have shut off comments on this video. But he did not so I took the opportunity to share my idea. I apologize if I’m enthusiastic about film and like talking about them.
I am open to hearing how you interpreted this scene if you disagree with what I said in the initial comment
Edit: no offense but do people have to clarify in their comments, “I’m not saying I’m right but” or “I’m not attacking you but” in order for you to understand it and not be over sensitive about it.
If you were that upset about my comment why waste the time to reply. Just dislike it and move on with your day. In this world your not going to agree with everything people say or do. And if you don’t understand that it would be difficult taking certain steps in your life.
Jonathan M Why are you wasting your time replying on my reply?My reply only took about 10 seconds while you’re wasting much time just typing.Also, you’re always right?I can’t wait for another 8 paragraphs since you can’t sum up things in a short statement.
Jonathan M People don’t have to clarify, but they can and are able to so they will.I’m also not disagreeing nor agreeing with you, I’m just saying that you should’ve typed your comment more as of a opinion instead of a fact.
I agree with the others that your comment sound kinda dogmatic instead of being phrased as an opinion...
Honestly, I couldn't agree more: Shen's parents loved him so much and gave him everything, but they never told him "using the fireworks' destructive force is a no-no" or "to be a ruler is to be selfless and serve your people".
Shen couldn't let go of his past, his pain, his parents' dissapointment in his actions, or his obsession for power and control.
I liked his character and how he wasn't just evil for the fun of it. His inner turmoil was visible in his actions and his words. He couldn't realize the danger he was because he was blinded by his goal to take over China and to make his parents proud.
I enjoy watching your videos, Issac! Hope your doing good!
Shen is awesome character. If only he had a sense of clarified at the end, maybe he would open his eyes and see what he did wrong. Wish he survive and leave China to take a long path of redemption
Shen is a great fighter.
I always like to consider Shen likely dead but not certainly as we have seen how powerful he is as a kung fu fighter
He did, he just knew it was too late
Is it weird that I secretly wish he won and conquered all of China? I mean, I know he’s a vaillain and we’re supposed to vouch for our hero’s, but I just loved shen so much and kindaaaaaaa maybe sort of wanted him to winnnnn. Oh god, maybe I should see a soothsayer 😳
@@ingeneous_overlord1459 I really agree with you. Shen is so likable!
@@ingeneous_overlord1459
Me too I loved him so much ☺️❤
It doesn't make too much sense, but I always liked to believe the person who was destined to bring Shen's downfall wasn't Po, but Shen himself. He had nothing to lose but his own life, but not even then he tried to stop.
And despite how sudden Shen's death was, right before he was crushed, he looked eerily accepting of his fate.
Makes no sense? That IS what makes so much sense. Shen was indeed the warrior-of-black-and-white that was destined to defeat him. In the foretelling scene, the smoke took the form of a white peacock, then the symbol of yin and yang, not the image of panda. In the last battle, Po didnt once try to attack him. Shen cut the ropes holding the cannon himself.
@@asimanayak304 woah truly he himself was the reason of his demise
Shen has such a unique character design, I was in awe the entire time watching the movie
Me as well
I love the Kung Fu Panda franchise
Agreed! I love it!
Joshua Merriweather ikr
@@IsaacCarlson can you do one for Tai lung
@@IsaacCarlson Or Po's Backstory. But, let's go with Tai Lung first.
Me too
Shen was like the Joker.
Seeing himself as the hero of his own story.
Both Shen and Joker know their doing unspeakable things. They don't think themselves as heroes
Shen is very RELATABLE to the Joker
Or Claude Frollo
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Every villain sees themselves as the hero of the story
I congratulate dreamworks for writing a villian this complex - it blows my mind how well this works , in the movie the performance of Shen was also pulled off so well. His time on screen was amazing he really felt intimidating and threatening at times and understanding his story makes him that much more amazing.
But you would never say that about kai smh
Tai lung: Relatable villain to po
Shen: Interesting past
Kai: Epic Into
All: Great design
I would like a spin off Kung Fu Panda movie where Tigress finds his long lost parents and other Tigers
I would totally watch that! As long as it has the same story telling of the Kung Fu Panda movies I would be excited!
Wotso Videos I mean Tigress is the only tigress we know, are they any more Tiger in China? You should do a Video about Tigress
Tigress is a girl
Tigress is awesome and I ship her and po. Didn't they do something with her family in the series I have not seen it all yet.
[redacted] I know she’s a girl
Shen is one of my favorite dreamwork’s villains even though he isn’t as skilled in kung fu as tai lung and Kai he still really an interesting character but I wonder what if he changed his ways what would of happened to him ?
One of the best DreamWorks franchises ever
Agreed . IMO , how to train your dragon takes the top spot but this isn’t far behind . If only the third instalment of Kung fu panda was as refined as the other two
I will say this once, and I will continue to say it, the people who cast Gary Oldman as Lord Shen did a brilliant job!
I also love how there are so many strong examples of Master Oogway's words of wisdom from the first film that applies to Lord Shen's character, such as:
• _“You are too concerned about what was and what will be.”_
• _"When the path you walk always leads back to yourself, you never get anywhere.”_
• _"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”_
• _“You must let go of the illusion of control.”_
• _“When will you realise, the more you take, the less you have.”_
It is quotes like these that show why Shen is such a brilliantly thought out character, who unlike Tai Lung who was more of the physical aspect, Shen was the psychological one and therefore much more of a threat to Po.
It is clear that the people at Dreamworks who worked on Kung Fu Panda 2 did their homework well and it shows. 🦚
Agreed
I like to think Shen wanted to stop but had come so far and killed so many. He doesn't want to waste the lives that he had taken and continued being the villain that will be stopped by the panda. Hence, closing his eyes at his last moments, accepting his fate as the prophecy foretold.
I also interpret it this way, when Shen attacked the panda village and returned to his parents, as soon as he saw the horror on their faces, he may have thought that perhaps he had gone too far, but it was already too late to turn back, because the The path he chose had no return, he would have to conquer China even if it wasn't what he really wanted or what brought him satisfaction and happiness, as he couldn't just give up considering that all his atrocities committed would have been in vain.
All other peacocks wish they were as great as Shen
"The dead exist in the past, and I must attend to-"
*ad for Kellogg's cornflakes* 🤣
I like how you separated intelligence and wisdom. There's so much I like about him, especially as a villain
Shen is literally the Darth Vader of Kung Fu Panda, becoming darker as he grows and realizes he is underappreciated. Only he doesn't redeem at the end, but both do accept their respective fate.
Something that never fails to break my heart is when Shen tells Po, "Let me heal you." and then reveals the canon, fully intending to kill Po. Because that implies that Shen believes the only true way to be healed is by dying. And so when the canon falls on him, he simply closes his eyes and accepts death :
Shen is one of my favorite movie villains just because of his fighting techniques
Oh yes, I totally admire his elegant fighting as well! And I thought I was the only one
Mewtwo is second best right? XD
The Makashi of Kung-Fu Panda 😂
Star Wars And not to mention he’s the smartest villain in the Kung Fu Panda trilogy
What fighting style he uses cannon and all he uses his is raw hate
I always find it funny when villains have dreams to rule all but they can't even lead a small group or rule a city. Even with the old goat makes it clear he just destroyed his home he only seeks all of China after he takes over (for the short time) his old home.
I loved Shen since he was so different as a villian being unable to use kung fu and his design was gorgeous!
Honestly I don't think I'll ever understand Shen. There's just so much missing contexts we never see and were never explained. I can respect that they made him irredeemable. It's realistic. There are a lot of people who would rather die than have to change the narrative or identity they've built for themselves.
The question still remains: how did two loving parents raise such a problematic little monster? Or did they just make the same mistake as Shifu and allow their love for their son to blind them to all of the warning signs of his sociopathic and destructive tendencies. Honestly. For his crimes Shen should have been executed or imprisoned for life. Banishment was a slap on the wrist. That's how I feel anyways. I can't imagine the distress his parents must have put up with afterwards. They likely would have had to earn the trust of their people while also grappling with the guilt of failing as parents.
I personally think that they just didn't see most of it. And to the firework thing, I can imagine that they let him experiment with it for the sake of learning and it got out of hand. What if shen was allowed to experiment with the fireworks at first because his parents considered knowledge desirable and shen found out how to weaponize it on accident and then his parents just couldn't stop it anymore?
@@fossfox That backstory makes a lot more sense why Shen was driven down the path of darkness and why he really believed that his parents never loved him other than being banished. I even have this theory that studying fire works was Shen's way of coping with his parent's negligence and the bad things that followed where he would not allow himself to show any weakness or shed tears.
The peacock was a psychopath
@@fossfox That would make perfect sense, really. You also have to consider his albinism in that back story. Albino's are often seen as outcasts or freaks/failures of nature and especially for proud creatures like peacocks (who use their colourful feathers to attract mates and stand up other males and predators) that's a really big deal. Albinism can lead to many hardships, both in body and mind.
I'm not excusing Shen's behaviour solely on that though and I refuse to belief that his parents had nothing to do with fueling the hate even if they never meant to. Either that or Shen was born mentally unstable due to his genetic 'defect' and messed up in the head from the start.
You'd be surprised with what royalty could get away with back then.
And Lord Shen’s theme in the soundtrack is so great! It has a sad tune to it, going to decrescendo
Shen is definitely my favourite Kung Fu Panda villain, and may even be my favourite character full stop. I love it when the villains have a painful and complex backstory.
Thanks for finally exploring Shen, interesting and awesome video 💙
Same here
Lord Shen the only peacock that I'm actually terrified of lol
So do i
Shen is the best villain everrr💕
He definitely ranks high for me! Go LORD SHEN
Tai lung is the og. Shen comes a good second
@@IsaacCarlson I think Lord Shen should be interrogated into Mortal Kombat 11, what do you think?
Meh tai lung lol
@@IsaacCarlson what's you're favorite kung fu panda villain
Other people: **wants kung fu panda 4**
Me: 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗼𝗳𝗳!! 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗼𝗳𝗳!!
Shen is such a underrated villain
*Yay! My favourite youtuber doing a video about my favourite character in my favourite movie!*
Thanks for the heart! :D
That's awesome
Lord Shen is one of my Favourite Kung ful Panda villains.
I wish that DreamWorks really would do a Netflix series about Lord Shen's life before he became evil and what really lead him down the path of darkness, because I always felt there was more to it than what the movie didn't have time to tell us. I doubt Shen thought his parents hated him only during the banishment part, but it must have something to do with his childhood that made him believe that, such as being born different or sickly for being an albino peacock.
Lord shen is my most favorite villains ever in the whole world. I was born around when I first saw kung fu panda 2. He is awesome and very epic
The Kung Fu Panda series are a perfect depiction of what happens when you raise someone with impossible expectations. Tell your kids you love them, tell them you're proud, let them know just existing, is enough.
One often meets his destiny when taking the road to avoid it.Does this mean that shen's parents followed their Destiny when they sent their son away to try to avoid shen's destiny
The fact that Kung Fu Panda gives the villains a true backstory and motives to their evil in a way where you understand their rage is a masterpiece of emotions.
Good detail about Shen and why he's such a villain. Wished he could have found peace. Any chance you could do Tai Lung's back story. Interesting quote "one meets his fate on the road he takes to avoid it" Shen did all this to avoid his fate only to have it destroy him.
he is not my favourite villain in Kung fu Panda, he is my favourite villain of all time xD he is such a complex character, his backstory and his design is just sooooo amazing and appealing to me :D
KP2 is one of my favourite dreamworks films. shen was such an unexpectedly complex villain. loved the score of this film too. the shadow puppet sequence in the beginning gives me chills!
If and when they make a 4th movie I hope that they make a villain as good as Shen. When I watched this movie as a 7 year old I didn't know how good this villain really was. So if they are to make 4th movie I hope they capture the magic that made Shen a great Villain.
Finally a detailed story on Shen. Thank you! ❤️
My absolute pleasure Paige! This was a joy to make!
To. We need to talk about po's mother.
Yes
Good question. I wonder what happened to Po's mother? Did she died or she ran off far away!?
Fr like she could've gotten away why did she let the wolves kill her in front of Po
I’m very relieved to find I’m not the only person completely fixated on Shen and his entire role as a villain.
And that at the end of the movie, with Po and Lord Shen fighting, when the ship was falling on him, he just looked at it and closed his eyes which was surprisingly for me because he was so determine to do his plan that he let himself die, or that he looked like he gave up. I dunno it was just interesting for me
I kind of feel bad for Shen, being basically abandoned by your parents must be horrible. Of course what he did to the panda village was horrible but I don't really believe he would end up like that if his parents had raised him differently.
Tai Lung is my favorite villain, he deserved way more..
He did everything just to make Shifu proud and even after many years he didn't want to hurt him.
He was even abused by the guards.
The difference between him and the other five is the fact that he didn't have friends to support him.
And to me Oogway should have explained to shifu that tai lung wasn't meant to be the dragon warrior from the beginning. But of course we wouldn't do that, they needed him as a villain in order to give Po what he needed.
One thing about Po as a protagonist is that he’s not at all a pacifist, he will kill his enemies if that’s what needs to be done to save people. It is because of it that I will always find ever so poignant that Shen, the villain who took the most from Po, was the only main antagonist of the trilogy that Po didn’t kill.
They were all different tho, he kind of had to prove himself in the first movie, he was kind of too young to remember shen to even want to kill him as much, he had to remember what happened. Po has remorse, he’s a sweet, humble panda. That’s what shen lacked. The third one kai was basically already dead he just had to send him back because he was putting everyone in stone. Death was too good for shen, I think they would’ve locked him up. He knew it that’s why he let the pole fall on him.
Honestly love Shen as a villain! I gotta say I enjoy watching Kung Fu Panda 2 the most! 😭💕
Po and Shen’s chapter development alone is what made Kung-Fu Panda 2 my favorite in the franchise. Both are so fleshed out that you can’t help but feel sorry for them, the dark tone was on point, and the stakes just keep raising.
Do the story of Tigress next! She's my favorite
Shen was definitely one of the best villains dreamworks has ever made.
not was he is the best
@@jammygamer8961 even better 👍
YASSSS THANK U!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏 Awesome Job! I think he’s everyone’s favorite, because as you illustrated perfectly in your analysis, he’s an emotional mad peacock bent on glory, his own destiny, along with China.
My pleasure!
Back when I saw Kung Fu Panda 2 in theaters, Shen scared the living hell outta me. Probably more than Tai Lung
The scene of po hurling the cannon balls back at shen was a beautiful way of symbolizing their relationship, shen being the aggressor destroyed the early parts of po's life (this is represented by shen firing the cannonballs) but because po was able to do what shen could not and let go he was then able to take the pain shen had given him (po catching the cannonballs) and use it against shen to defeat him (po throwing back the cannonballs and showing how the pain shen had caused po made him stronger because he has now found inner peace)
I always kinda hoped that Shen jumped out of the way before the canon fell and is secretly plotting his revenge
IMO he's too good of a villian to be killed like that☹️
I liked that they showed his ruthless side, like him killing his wolf general, actually killing a master of Kung Fu (Master Rhino), how he threatened the wolf general, how he laughed when he destroyed his ancestral home, how he played with Po's mind and emotions, how he almost killed Po
Shen was just awesome🔥⚔️
Shen is the type of villan that I dont see often in movies he stands out from other villans in my opinion and is my favorite one in the kung fu panda franchise if not DreamWorks
Shen is what happens when someone refuses to let go of their anger and hate. You can just look in his eyes and know intimately the exact bitterness he's wallowing in. The saddest part is how the soothsayer speaks to him so tenderly and gives him so many chances to return to the sweet light of mercy, and though you search his face fervently for a glimmer of remorse, nothing but scorn materializes. He doesn't really believe any of the things he says to her, he just says those things because he refuses to forgive.
Why do Shen even take them prisoner. Why didn't he order them killed on site
He probably wanted them to witness his victory. He seems like the type to force his enemies to watch helplessly as he takes over
@@eviebradney2068 but he was fortold to defeat him .
You think If Shane really wanted to stop the prediction
It was "a warrior of black and white" who was fortold to defeat him, either Master Ox or Croc were that and Shen threatened to use the cannon against them and the city if they didn't surrender so Shen gave them a chance to give up.
Do a video on one of The Lion Guard's side characters, like Ono or Fuli. You hardly ever bring them up in your videos, but I believe that they deserve as much attention as anyone else in the show, maybe more.
I don't watch the Lion Guard these days but I remember that Fuli was my favorite character. The least annoying one (don't even get me started on that honey badger character...). And I like sarcasm and speed/action. And cheetahs, they're cute.
shen was my favorite kung fu panda villain. he was interesting i felt bad for him, was sad that he died, and felt bad for his parents. his actions horrified me yet he always seemed to justify them in some way. truly he was the best villain
You wouldn't feel bad for those parents of his anymore if you read how they treated him back then
@@Kanade-gy6yf how did they treat him? were they really bad parents or just really strict? they seemed like nice people.
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They scorned and neglected him for being born sickly...
@@Kanade-gy6yf whoa i did not know that man talk about harsh. how did you learn this was it a deleted scene or something?
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I know I feel bad for Shen :' (
I searched it in wiki. Maybe there are other sources like interviews with the creators etc.
One of the best villains I know. I hope to see him return as a reformed character in future installments.
Agreed Tai Lung and Shen i see as villains that can be redeemed.
Kai however can't be redeemed ever
Isn’t he dead?
@@Unofficial-Name he likely is
I hope you will make a video about Queen Lillian and King Harold love story I really want to know the love story between Fiona's parents
If we have a Kung Fu Panda 4 coming, I hope it would give him a chance to change as a spirit along with Tai Lung.
I just watched the kung fu panda movies a few days ago- OMG
Ive been waiting for this, Shen is my favorite
Shen: Mom, Dad I just killed the entire panda race ...
Shen’s parents: It’s because of that damn phone!
I'd love to see a full story of taotie I think there's more than a boar with machines and his rivalry with shifu because if u see it from his perspective the training device was his most prized and cherished creation but he still failed and got injured while shifu used it to improve himself maybe he would have been different if oogway helped him more and he could've improved and would help train a future generation of kung fu masters
Given your last video Issac I’d love to see more Little Mermaid centric vids
I have some ideas
Where did Ursula learn her magic?
Why was Ariel so fascinated with the human world?
Ursula’s Giant form explained-Did she do it cause of the Trident it was it something she could the whole time?
I love those ideas!!
Kyla Hartigan Thanks
Caroline DiSalvatore 😁💛😁
Hey Wosto I love your video♥️ and I’m a fan of you and I have a question? What would happen if Lord Shen wasn’t the only child? What if Shen have a pure heart inside of him A family member he love? What would happen if Lord Shen have a little sister?
Shen is my fav Kung Fu Panda, and thanks for making him even more amazing.
Shen is the greatest dreamworks villain
THIS is why Kung Fu Panda 2 will forever be my favorite (although I haven't watched the 3rd) he's just so fierce so intimidating and so tragic "he set out to change his fate but what he did next only. sealed. it." One of my favorite animated movie quotes ever
He’s my favorite villain in the series, he’s so complex and is such a tragic character
Yessssss the Video ive been wanting for ages Yay Ur A good you tuber Keep up da good work
I'm glad I could finally bring this to you! I will definitely keep going! Thank you for your support
@@IsaacCarlson r u streaming today?
When's Drago Bludvist gonna get a video like this? Come on he didn't have the most happy life either and he's certainly a lot more complex than what we were shown.
Not to mention he was going to be redeemed in the 3rd film!
Edit: Drago's video was disappointing and not one mention about his unused redemption for the 3rd film.
The saddest thing about Shen's death wasn't only him accepting his faith, but it was also him choosing death as an escape for inner peace. In the scene where Po says "you can choose who you want to be" Shen actually chooses death. I think he's the best villain out of the three and he for sure is my favorite movie villain of all time.
There's a theory that Shen was the Master Peacock. There's not a lot of evidence but there's one bit. After the final battle, after Po achieves inner peace and destroys Shen's fleet, Shen asks "How did you achieve peace?". This implies that he knows the technique Po used. Only Kung Fu masters know the technique. Oh and the fact that he's an incredible fighter even against Kung Fu masters.
Also Kung Fu Panda 3 had a missed opportunity to bring Tai Lung back. He was skadooshed a.k.a sent to the spirit world so he could've appeared and maybe helped Po because he's acknowledged his strength.
Lord Shen is one of the best villains in the series and arguably all of animation
I think Shen might have felt guilt and had an epiphany from his conversation with Po. But because he had chosen this path to villainy, and having lost everything, he saw no other way to live.
You could see it in his final moments. Instead of struggling to live, to escape. There was resignation in his face when his death was imminent. 12:01
In a way, he chose his fate to the very end.
Deep and extremely intelligent narrative. Good work.
I don’t think I’ve noticed that Shen was unconsciously cutting the ropes that were holding his ship up, until you mentioned it and showed the clip. Thanks.
I think he wanted to die, but he wanted to make it seem like a defeat, suicide would be humiliating for him