_Check out my other reviews:_ *"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 1:* ua-cam.com/video/g6n8VhVGKDY/v-deo.html *Spider Farmer SF300 / SF600:* ua-cam.com/video/RXbR-hcXeQ4/v-deo.html *Spider Farmer SF2000:* ua-cam.com/video/lK28aiRQ_Vs/v-deo.html *Spider Farmer SF4000:* ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html *Active Grow LoPro Max 320W:* ua-cam.com/video/PCaesi_M5DQ/v-deo.html *Maxsisun MG3000:* ua-cam.com/video/Tw6-w2gybgo/v-deo.html This UPS power station can backup a grow light! ► ua-cam.com/video/h3sUUHCEqbs/v-deo.html Check out my *Grow Light Cost Calculator:* ua-cam.com/video/aToYhyPZMVs/v-deo.html _Learn more about artificial lighting and plant growth:_ ► What is PAR vs ePAR Light? ua-cam.com/video/kUpEQ4kU148/v-deo.html ► The impact of Red or Blue light on plant growth: ua-cam.com/video/sfihE4IuFuU/v-deo.html ► To avoid Tip Burn: ua-cam.com/video/gHWf4Hfi3hA/v-deo.html ► Light Cycles & DLI: ua-cam.com/video/dQlOJ1zvoPI/v-deo.html
c'est drôle de dire ça : ua-cam.com/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/v-deo.html juste au moment où je pensais que vous faisiez peut être ça pour Amazon avec l'Atreum ^^¨¨¨¨ tout ses chiffres sont BEAUX et si certains peuvent nous faire voir des résultats concret sûr de vrai plantes , manifestez vous en commentaires .
@@brujos1freeman This Winter I've actually been using this one: Spider Farmer SF4000: ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html I dimmed it down to 100W though for seedlings in a small area.
@@brujos1freeman Atreum wanted to be in my last video but they didn't have lab reports so I said "NO". Once they got reports, I was willing to review their lights. Same for ViparSpectra. None of the companies paid me. I did this to help out the growing community! :)
This was extremely informative. This is what the industry needs, now more than ever: objective, knowledgeable analysis of products, clear-eyed comparisons, and clear explanations. Kudos, and thank you! Please keep up the great work!
Man, this is exactly how I shop for pretty much everything. Thank you so much for clearing up almost all of the confusion these brands are creating on the market with probably the best 2 videos about this line of products. Absolutely genius
This is the information I was needing!! Just learned a tremendous amount and ordered the viper spectra xs1000. With your code and a $15 off coupon, I got it for $80 after taxes! Thank you!!
Wow, the best video on LED growing lights I've ever seen! It is well laid out with all of the technical data anyone could ask for. Thanks, brother. Carlos Retired Software Test Engineer
Finally, information that compares some top brand, comparably priced growing lights! I can’t believe how many “unboxing” videos I watched while looking for useful information like this. Thank you for the time and effort you have saved us all.
I love your videos. i follow a few other UA-cam Grow Light Channels. But you are my favourite, you always speak the truth and do the deepest tests on them. and call the Company's out when they lie. we need more people like you doing this... Many thanks Aiden
Thank you!!! After spending two days comparing models myself, this video could not have been more timely! Thank you for checking the facts, following up when they were questionable, and for putting all on a level playing field where meaningful comparisons could be made. You just might have saved a new hobby for me, right out of the gate!
I used a 400 watt HPS till recently after our son bought me a 420 watt Seagrond Led light. Apparently a mid range led quantum board, but significantly better than my HPS. I noticed that my plants responded to the led much faster than my HPS. Thanks for the video. Cheers from New Zealand.
Glad to see a non sponsored reviewer for a change. There are many very good sponsored reviewers here . They gain the publics trust then subtlety push there product. At great monetary gain . No blame it’s human nature to want to become a millionaire . But they are not honest . Case in point a reviewer states one month a light is fantastic . Then when a new light arrives they say the first light only has a spread of 10 cm … that’s 3.9 inches. What isn’t mentioned the reading is taken 3 inches from the board . And no mention of the actual numbers but there it is . We see this time over time. In many different ways . They are pushing product and the Chinese are very grateful.
A lot of people could learn from this videos format on how to thoroughly present information! Love it! Really helped me dip my feet into the beginner LED world, greatly appreciated!
"Sear holes in your retinas as you walk passed the kitchen" 🤣🤣🤣 how I felt first time propagating with CFLs in my bedroom.. Then attempting HPS with no tent. Its a blindingly fun learning curve 👍🏽
Thanks for this! I ordered an Atreum Hyrdro-1000 as my first real LED right after viewing this last year, and another about a month later. About 6 months ago I got a Vipar because Atreum doesn't sell a 200w... and while I don't notice any difference in build quality, light output, or results, I am still happy to patronize Atreum for the reasons you listed. Honest businesses should get business!
Excellent review. Thank you for submitting and providing your 3rd party test results ; transparently removes all bias, making it straight forward to identify the appropriate light for ones needs.
Thanks again for your thorough reviews! If I could just mention one little detail, it might be worth consideration when buying. The Spider Farmer and Viparspectra lights I have are coated to protect the diodes' connections from corrosion. The Cheap entry level Mars Hydro light I have (TSL-2000) has no coating at all. As I mentioned in another video, the aluminum reflector will dull over time because it is not anodized. Here's the reason for my concern: The Spider Farmer lights have a sticker on them that symbolically says "NO sulfur". Indoor growers are commonly dealing with powdery mildew. P.M. is harder to deal with in flower. Sulfur 'burners' (actually vaporizers) are the best defense. Sulfur burners work by the micro-deposition of sulfur on the leaf surfaces, which then becomes oxidized, and ultimately forms sulfuric acid. A moist atmosphere, coupled with sulfur vaporization products is not an ideal environment for electronics, especially ones with no coating. Sulfur isn't used all the time, and my intermittent use of it has not damaged my lights in any noticeable way (even the Mars lights), but it's worthy of consideration, I think. It would have never occurred to me if I hadn't seen the warning on the SF-1000. It's interesting that Spider Farmer is the only company I've seen that warns us of this potential problem. Lots of 'medicinal' users of these lights would never consider sulfur, but it has saved my crops when nothing else could. I only use it in the 12 hour room, because other products work OK in veg. And no, it has never created an off taste in the -matoes. Just some food for thought. Love your work Mr. Pepper :) Thanks.
Excellent information! Thanks for pointing that out. The ViparSpectra & Maxsisun lights have the thicker rubbery coating. The current generation of SF1000 is the thinner hard type. HYDRA-1000 is coated in that same way.
I love LED light reviews and analysis, one thing I'm surprised I'm not seeing in 2024 now that light makers are understanding IR a little better is some control of the blue/red ratio to control stretching. some 'tomatoes' like to stretch more than others, and I think we could be using our lights as tools to control that a little more.
i spent hours looking for a grow light that was decent for my 4x4 without spending a absurd amount 4 days ago. I went with the Maxisun PB 4000 pro for $307 after a discount and a referral code and i was so happy with it. i love being able so slowly raise the brightness with the remote rather than twist something on the light. and now i know i did get a great deal like i thought. Great video! now we just need someone to test fans. i got one that i know is not nearly as powerful as it say and it really upsets me
I learned a lot watching these video and got into them because I purchased a couple no name quantums off amazon for 55 bucks each and was surprised at how bright they were. After watching your recommendations i decided to buy the xs1000 because its on sale for 90 bucks on amazon, i like the heat sinks and I now like knowing the fact that have a decent company behind my warranty. Thanks you.
Thank you for the complete review. It would be interesting to compare the resultant yield. You could for example dim all lights to the same PPF, and compare if their spectra resulted in better yield.
So true! People need to be able to get the best value for whatever their budget is. And Amazon has some good products on there. We just need some solid specs so we can make informed choices!
I didn't have a great time with my hlg 550 v1. It just did okay. Going much less expensive this time with two xs1500s in a 2.5x5 expandable grow space. If I get more plants, I'll get more xs1500s. Can go up to 5x5. More expensive isn't always better. Technological advances are better. And waiting for the budget models of those technological advances is wallet-friendly.
Thank you. This is my second of your videos and I could not get to the point where I am if it were not for your information. You really know what you are doing, thank you again. 👍
Ive had a little 100w maxisun for a while now and I can say ,for the price even now, that I'm beyond happy with it. I started with a marz hydro tsw2000 in a 4x4. It was ok but since I added the maxisun. For a total of 400wats. Ive had much better harvests.
Thank you again for recommending me the Viparspectra P1000. I've had it running a few days now and my plants are loving it! Such a solid build as well 👌 Keep up the good work sir 😎👍
I'm glad it worked out for you! As I was working on this review I saw the data and pricing and figured it was a good option for you. Thanks for your support! :)
I bought my lights according to your information. Great video!! I got a MARS HYDRO 2023 New TS1000 and a VIPARSPECTRA XS1000 and am looking forward to many great grows!!
We are just legal in Virginia, so I've been studying how to grow (for my personal use only - seriously) so I don't want to throw down $1,000+ for a grow light. Your videos really made me make a decision. Before your videos I had a headache trying to decipher which light to get. Thanks!!
I used these videos to weigh my options, thanks! I just bought a xs2000 for my 4x2. Hopefully my maratomatoes love it. I do like the idea of a removable board though. Maybe when I upgrade next time it will be more common in the market.
The last video you made about LED's I said I loved your video and wasen't even looking for LED light, today I am looking for a LED and still loved the old one and now the new one. The kit I am going for has a SF1000 in it so this video was quite perfect to watch now :D
I purchased a ViparSpectra P1000 in early September (I'm in Australia). The model I received looks like an updated version of the P1000 you have pictured, with 350 LEDS total and possibly 2 less IR LEDS vs 300 LEDS in the older model. No idea what impact that would have on the numbers. Love your work!
such a great review explaining in detail exactly the scenario to buy each lights! I especially liked the charts for comparison in value compared to light output.
Once again great video! I have been running spider Farmers for a lil while now and considered changing. But with the info that you provided I will continue to since I am a year-round grower. Thanks for the help👊
after seeing your video i bought a Viparspectra P1000. it was my first modern setup and i wasnt sure what anything meant at first. thank you for clarifying. there is alot of marketing garbage.
I purchased the SF1000 LED light from Spider Farmer in May, after considering a lot of information, especially your earlier article on 100 Watt grow lights. I received a 270 light panel with a manual that referred LM301D diodes. I contacted Spider Farmer and they replaced my order with the 270 diode substitute which has the D diodes installed on the board. From what I understand during our multi e-mail conversation was that they ran out of LM301B diodes and started to fill orders with the upgraded , "D" diode panels. I am mentioning this because you received a SF1000 panel from Spider Farmer with 270 diodes in your video.
I'm just starting on hydroponics as our food sources aren't safe (recent recalls on lettuce for listeria!!). My budget is limited but still rather pay for quality than replace something after a few months. Your reviews of the lights is a tremendous help and greatly appreciated.
I never understood why you would mount the driver on the back of the heatsink. I know it is for efficiency but It is just throwing heat in your grow space. I can't imagine a 4-6 foot cable causing you to loose a significant amount of current.
You would loose such an insignificant amount of power it's not even worth doing the math. By the way it's volt drop that occurs across the length of a conductor.
Apogee is now making 2several model ppfd meters that use the "e-par" scale, which includes light to760nm, measuring the far red LEDs included in the newer lights. I have a dozen or so mixed ViparSpectra XS1000 and XS2000 models. I just bought a couple more, and can't speak highly enough of them. Even had a new defective one a year or so ago that was replaced no questions asked in a matter of days. Thanks for the thorough reviews, makes me feel better that I'm not missing out on something a lot better. I'd be surprised to find anything a whole lot better however, as my results have been fantastic. The multiple small lights let me adjust them individually (I use an Apogee MQ620 e-par meter) as the plants grow. you can adjust position, height and intensity to get the entire area to the desirable levels and DLI for each plant.
Thank you so much.. very good video and very informative. :) I also want to thank all companies here participating or that have decided to go in the direction of honest or/and accurate advertising.
Great video! I recently got a nasty surprise when I ordered a second Viparspectra XS1000. The one I ordered in October last year was great, the same as in this video. When I received my new lamp I couldn't believe my eyes because it was completely different. Less powerful driver, less wattage (100 instead of 120 watts) and a dimmer that wasn't freely adjustable anymore. Also the build quilty felt much less refined, would even call it cheap. Unbelievable how they can produce something so vastly inferiour to the previouw version of the same model. Watch out which version you buy online!
Samsung new horticulture led is on the way , so the remaining stock is being aggressively priced . Before the new more efficient leds arrive for purchase in a light. 3.17 umol/j. Vs lm301b. 2.5
@@Albopepper Thank you and btw your Tutos are great and much appricated i went thrue a lots of you tubers and yours are clearly outstanding clear and precise the whatch Dog aproach is benefecial for everybody including the industry ...im starting out growing rare or endangered trees and learning and watching hundreds of tutorials to master the biology spectrum of these living creatures...a kind of mission and its fascinating i just love it... and will grow lettuce and tomatoes also 😊 so please continue your great work my name is Robert 👍 thank you 🇨🇦
it would be nice to see a comparison between old and new panels, i have some 7 year old 400w viparspect panels with 5w diodes, and they still perform to perfection but they seem quite power costly compared to the new ones, back then i paid like 100$ for such a panel- i also have one of the green mars hydros with 3w diodes and it is still working 240w but comparing old used panels to brand new ones wouldn´t be a fair comparrison i think.
I did my first review on the Pandvillow LED grow light then I watch this video and said no wonder why they didn’t give me any directions the owners manual did not tell the proper way to hang the light up they were so worried about a par them tests are pointless if they’re not gonna do it on a growing distance all about the inverse Square law thank you for the truth dangling the light that was the best
Great video as usual...maybe one day you can do a report on the HLG qb288 or their "Diablo" 648 that claims a 2.8 rating since more diodes spread light more deeply and evenly into the canopy...also i just purchased HLG qb288 with sky blue diodes for veg cycles....any info on those would be awesome....HLG can send you some to test out....thanks again for straight up info and easy to understand videos...
Heya! Love your channel, love your input! I'm sure you're aware of the Migro Channel - something I'd love to see is a third party testing of those lights (also I hope to one day see some sort of collab between you're channels, I'm sure there's a lot of great stuff you could do together).
Thanks for your support Peter! Yes I'm familiar with the MIGRO ARAY lights. When I go to the home page I see an Integrating Sphere with the caption: _"Independently tested and verified"._ I click it and it says in part: _"We publish our tests and associated data for all our products on the website"._ So I click to explore their products. Looking at the Aray 2, I see various specs. But I see no Test Reports. Nothing from an independent lab. No Integrating Sphere data. I don't get it. Have they done the proper 3rd party testing? Because their home page makes it appear that way. But I can't find the reports. Let me know if you ever find the data.
The UK version of the XS1000 is 100w and has 350 diodes. shame you couldn't include that version in your test, it would be intersting to see the side by side data. Nether the less great informative video👍
For a beginner I went with a p1000 for my 2x2 tent and was surprised I had to go buy a second p1000 and now I have 2 p1000s in a 4x4 . Been having them some 2021 these p1000s are so underrated if you get them for the right price..
Excellent test/comparisson, the best i have seen on youtube ! Marshydro has updated the TS 1000 (with new LED Chips). Would be great if you could check it out ! Thanks for your excellent work !
Hey Albopepper: I see Sansi mentioned a few times in your other videos. Will you do review on Sansi grow light and/or the minimum light requirements for growing peppers indoor? ps. Love your videos - very informative and scientific. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Hi, I am a new urban gardener with a patio that faces northeast in Orlando, FL. I am planning on building a concept of your awesome SIP raised garden bed that will fit my patio to begin my gardening journey! Since I face northeast I am pretty sure hanging some LED lights above my plants will give them the best opportunity to grow. Do you still recommend the P1000 in this kind of set up? I can’t remember if you mentioned it is waterproof or not. I truly appreciate all your work and the information you put out!
Would love to see such a good review and look at the PB4000 pro with remote and see how it stacks up vs some of the more expensive brands. Seems to be a excellent light especially for the cost considering its running meanwell drivers and samsung diodes.
honestly thanks so much for this, went down a rabbit hole of led today, was going to go with the sf1000 but then i saw on their newest version that theyre not even using a meanwell driver but their own brand, what do you think of this? also do you think theyre using fake diodes as well? that picture you put up sure looks like it
I like the idea of having 10 bars ro reach into every nook and cranny. Even at half power I would think more bars could increase yield or quality. Maybe a better proportion of red diodes. Its probably better than having two 500 watt lights. Depends if you have a big square grow area or a rectangle.
😉 Thank you so so much for this. Wish I watched it when it came out, it would've saved me from buying some very cheaply made but expensive lights. I bought the Monios-L 60W and yes 60W is way too dim. For just 20 USD more I could have gotten much better lights.
For regular tomatoes at $5/lb, efficiency is everything. But for fruit with a $10-30/g market value, total light is everything. Until you have too much light for a space; then efficiency matters again. And I pay $.90/kwh, so 1kw of 12/12 is $324/mo. The TS still wins IMO.
_Check out my other reviews:_
*"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 1:* ua-cam.com/video/g6n8VhVGKDY/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF300 / SF600:* ua-cam.com/video/RXbR-hcXeQ4/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF2000:* ua-cam.com/video/lK28aiRQ_Vs/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF4000:* ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html
*Active Grow LoPro Max 320W:* ua-cam.com/video/PCaesi_M5DQ/v-deo.html
*Maxsisun MG3000:* ua-cam.com/video/Tw6-w2gybgo/v-deo.html
This UPS power station can backup a grow light!
► ua-cam.com/video/h3sUUHCEqbs/v-deo.html
Check out my *Grow Light Cost Calculator:* ua-cam.com/video/aToYhyPZMVs/v-deo.html
_Learn more about artificial lighting and plant growth:_
► What is PAR vs ePAR Light? ua-cam.com/video/kUpEQ4kU148/v-deo.html
► The impact of Red or Blue light on plant growth: ua-cam.com/video/sfihE4IuFuU/v-deo.html
► To avoid Tip Burn: ua-cam.com/video/gHWf4Hfi3hA/v-deo.html
► Light Cycles & DLI: ua-cam.com/video/dQlOJ1zvoPI/v-deo.html
c'est drôle de dire ça : ua-cam.com/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/v-deo.html juste au moment où je pensais que vous faisiez peut être ça pour Amazon avec l'Atreum ^^¨¨¨¨
tout ses chiffres sont BEAUX
et si certains peuvent nous faire voir des résultats concret sûr de vrai plantes , manifestez vous en commentaires .
Sinon , vous vous servez de quel LED ? ...
@@brujos1freeman This Winter I've actually been using this one: Spider Farmer SF4000: ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html I dimmed it down to 100W though for seedlings in a small area.
@@brujos1freeman Atreum wanted to be in my last video but they didn't have lab reports so I said "NO". Once they got reports, I was willing to review their lights. Same for ViparSpectra. None of the companies paid me. I did this to help out the growing community! :)
@@Albopepper Thank
This was extremely informative. This is what the industry needs, now more than ever: objective, knowledgeable analysis of products, clear-eyed comparisons, and clear explanations. Kudos, and thank you! Please keep up the great work!
I bought 4 Atreums for my mari...tomatoes because of this video. I love them and am 1 happy customer~!
Man, this is exactly how I shop for pretty much everything. Thank you so much for clearing up almost all of the confusion these brands are creating on the market with probably the best 2 videos about this line of products. Absolutely genius
This is the information I was needing!! Just learned a tremendous amount and ordered the viper spectra xs1000. With your code and a $15 off coupon, I got it for $80 after taxes! Thank you!!
How much is the space your growing in?
Wow, the best video on LED growing lights I've ever seen! It is well laid out with all of the technical data anyone could ask for.
Thanks, brother.
Carlos
Retired Software Test Engineer
Finally, information that compares some top brand, comparably priced growing lights! I can’t believe how many “unboxing” videos I watched while looking for useful information like this. Thank you for the time and effort you have saved us all.
I love your videos. i follow a few other UA-cam Grow Light Channels. But you are my favourite, you always speak the truth and do the deepest tests on them. and call the Company's out when they lie. we need more people like you doing this... Many thanks Aiden
Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate your support on my channel. :-D
Thank you!!! After spending two days comparing models myself, this video could not have been more timely! Thank you for checking the facts, following up when they were questionable, and for putting all on a level playing field where meaningful comparisons could be made. You just might have saved a new hobby for me, right out of the gate!
I used a 400 watt HPS till recently after our son bought me a 420 watt Seagrond Led light. Apparently a mid range led quantum board, but significantly better than my HPS. I noticed that my plants responded to the led much faster than my HPS. Thanks for the video. Cheers from New Zealand.
Glad to see a non sponsored reviewer for a change. There are many very good sponsored reviewers here . They gain the publics trust then subtlety push there product. At great monetary gain . No blame it’s human nature to want to become a millionaire . But they are not honest . Case in point a reviewer states one month a light is fantastic . Then when a new light arrives they say the first light only has a spread of 10 cm … that’s 3.9 inches. What isn’t mentioned the reading is taken 3 inches from the board . And no mention of the actual numbers but there it is . We see this time over time. In many different ways . They are pushing product and the Chinese are very grateful.
A lot of people could learn from this videos format on how to thoroughly present information! Love it! Really helped me dip my feet into the beginner LED world, greatly appreciated!
"Sear holes in your retinas as you walk passed the kitchen" 🤣🤣🤣 how I felt first time propagating with CFLs in my bedroom.. Then attempting HPS with no tent. Its a blindingly fun learning curve 👍🏽
I love my ViparSpectra P1000. It's been a fantastic light for the price and my plants are happy.
I went with the MAXSISUN PB1000Pro. Thank you for your quality reviews
Thanks for watching Micheal! I appreciate your support. :)
16:11 “great option for those mari-tomatoes” nice, those medicinal plants are my favorite, cana-peppers are pretty tasty too, give those a try :D
Thanks for this! I ordered an Atreum Hyrdro-1000 as my first real LED right after viewing this last year, and another about a month later. About 6 months ago I got a Vipar because Atreum doesn't sell a 200w... and while I don't notice any difference in build quality, light output, or results, I am still happy to patronize Atreum for the reasons you listed. Honest businesses should get business!
Thanks for sharing your first hand experience. I'm glad you've been getting good results! 😀
Excellent review. Thank you for submitting and providing your 3rd party test results ; transparently removes all bias, making it straight forward to identify the appropriate light for ones needs.
Extremely helpful my brother.. you raised the bar for us all.. Thank You
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching. :-D
Thanks again for your thorough reviews! If I could just mention one little detail, it might be worth consideration when buying. The Spider Farmer and Viparspectra lights I have are coated to protect the diodes' connections from corrosion. The Cheap entry level Mars Hydro light I have (TSL-2000) has no coating at all. As I mentioned in another video, the aluminum reflector will dull over time because it is not anodized.
Here's the reason for my concern: The Spider Farmer lights have a sticker on them that symbolically says "NO sulfur". Indoor growers are commonly dealing with powdery mildew. P.M. is harder to deal with in flower. Sulfur 'burners' (actually vaporizers) are the best defense. Sulfur burners work by the micro-deposition of sulfur on the leaf surfaces, which then becomes oxidized, and ultimately forms sulfuric acid. A moist atmosphere, coupled with sulfur vaporization products is not an ideal environment for electronics, especially ones with no coating. Sulfur isn't used all the time, and my intermittent use of it has not damaged my lights in any noticeable way (even the Mars lights), but it's worthy of consideration, I think. It would have never occurred to me if I hadn't seen the warning on the SF-1000. It's interesting that Spider Farmer is the only company I've seen that warns us of this potential problem.
Lots of 'medicinal' users of these lights would never consider sulfur, but it has saved my crops when nothing else could. I only use it in the 12 hour room, because other products work OK in veg. And no, it has never created an off taste in the -matoes. Just some food for thought.
Love your work Mr. Pepper :) Thanks.
Excellent information! Thanks for pointing that out. The ViparSpectra & Maxsisun lights have the thicker rubbery coating. The current generation of SF1000 is the thinner hard type. HYDRA-1000 is coated in that same way.
I love LED light reviews and analysis, one thing I'm surprised I'm not seeing in 2024 now that light makers are understanding IR a little better is some control of the blue/red ratio to control stretching. some 'tomatoes' like to stretch more than others, and I think we could be using our lights as tools to control that a little more.
i spent hours looking for a grow light that was decent for my 4x4 without spending a absurd amount 4 days ago. I went with the Maxisun PB 4000 pro for $307 after a discount and a referral code and i was so happy with it. i love being able so slowly raise the brightness with the remote rather than twist something on the light. and now i know i did get a great deal like i thought. Great video! now we just need someone to test fans. i got one that i know is not nearly as powerful as it say and it really upsets me
I've had the same one for a few months now. Great light! Thinking about getting another one. Where did you find such discounts? ;p
I learned a lot watching these video and got into them because I purchased a couple no name quantums off amazon for 55 bucks each and was surprised at how bright they were. After watching your recommendations i decided to buy the xs1000 because its on sale for 90 bucks on amazon, i like the heat sinks and I now like knowing the fact that have a decent company behind my warranty. Thanks you.
This leds lightning how many périmètre ?
Thank you for the complete review. It would be interesting to compare the resultant yield. You could for example dim all lights to the same PPF, and compare if their spectra resulted in better yield.
These LED videos are very informative and extremely high production quality! Keep up the great work. 👍
You made all of these stats sound so much easier to understand. Wish I had a chemistry teach that explained things like you
Its great to see the numbers! My local hydro store hates all things Amazon but some folks can’t throw 1k at an HLG. Thank you for this awesome video.
So true! People need to be able to get the best value for whatever their budget is. And Amazon has some good products on there. We just need some solid specs so we can make informed choices!
I didn't have a great time with my hlg 550 v1. It just did okay.
Going much less expensive this time with two xs1500s in a 2.5x5 expandable grow space. If I get more plants, I'll get more xs1500s. Can go up to 5x5.
More expensive isn't always better. Technological advances are better. And waiting for the budget models of those technological advances is wallet-friendly.
I love videos like this that explains the details of the led lights that were all using today 👍💯🌿🇬🇧
Great video! It taught me a few things. I already have a ViparSpectra and for the money you can't beat it.
hi, how do you like the viparspetra now? i am deciding to get one soon
Good job , You should be fairly compensated for all your hard work .
Thank you. This is my second of your videos and I could not get to the point where I am if it were not for your information. You really know what you are doing, thank you again. 👍
Ive had a little 100w maxisun for a while now and I can say ,for the price even now, that I'm beyond happy with it. I started with a marz hydro tsw2000 in a 4x4. It was ok but since I added the maxisun. For a total of 400wats. Ive had much better harvests.
Thank you again for recommending me the Viparspectra P1000.
I've had it running a few days now and my plants are loving it! Such a solid build as well 👌
Keep up the good work sir 😎👍
I'm glad it worked out for you! As I was working on this review I saw the data and pricing and figured it was a good option for you. Thanks for your support! :)
I'm a Big fan of the P1000, I have 4.
Just bought one
I bought my lights according to your information. Great video!! I got a MARS HYDRO 2023 New TS1000 and a VIPARSPECTRA XS1000 and am looking forward to many great grows!!
Glad to find this channel need to know about lights as a new grower
As always great content and honest reviews, love the mari-tomato pun, please stay safe and keep the videos coming
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. :)
We are just legal in Virginia, so I've been studying how to grow (for my personal use only - seriously) so I don't want to throw down $1,000+ for a grow light. Your videos really made me make a decision. Before your videos I had a headache trying to decipher which light to get. Thanks!!
What yu decided
Some of the best vids I've seen on the tubes. Thanks man!
I used these videos to weigh my options, thanks! I just bought a xs2000 for my 4x2. Hopefully my maratomatoes love it. I do like the idea of a removable board though. Maybe when I upgrade next time it will be more common in the market.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad the info can help out. :)
The last video you made about LED's I said I loved your video and wasen't even looking for LED light, today I am looking for a LED and still loved the old one and now the new one. The kit I am going for has a SF1000 in it so this video was quite perfect to watch now :D
Lights are pretty wild to dissect and find whats best. Thanks. I actually get the info I was needing. Keep up tue great reviews
I purchased a ViparSpectra P1000 in early September (I'm in Australia). The model I received looks like an updated version of the P1000 you have pictured, with 350 LEDS total and possibly 2 less IR LEDS vs 300 LEDS in the older model. No idea what impact that would have on the numbers.
Love your work!
hi, how do you like the viparspectra now? i want to buy it soon
such a great review explaining in detail exactly the scenario to buy each lights! I especially liked the charts for comparison in value compared to light output.
Thanks so much for your feedback. I'm glad the charts are able to help out! :)
Once again great video! I have been running spider Farmers for a lil while now and considered changing. But with the info that you provided I will continue to since I am a year-round grower. Thanks for the help👊
I'm glad the info has help out! Thanks so much for watching. :-D
dude, there are many great led grow light in this world, you just need to find them.
Thank you so much for this video. This is just what I have been looking for. Solid information. YOU ARE THE BEST!
after seeing your video i bought a Viparspectra P1000. it was my first modern setup and i wasnt sure what anything meant at first. thank you for clarifying. there is alot of marketing garbage.
I purchased the SF1000 LED light from Spider Farmer in May, after considering a lot of information, especially your earlier article on 100 Watt grow lights. I received a 270 light panel with a manual that referred LM301D diodes. I contacted Spider Farmer and they replaced my order with the 270 diode substitute which has the D diodes installed on the board. From what I understand during our multi e-mail conversation was that they ran out of LM301B diodes and started to fill orders with the upgraded , "D" diode panels. I am mentioning this because you received a SF1000 panel from Spider Farmer with 270 diodes in your video.
I love my Viparspectra P series lights and recommend them to everyone.
Again a amazing in-depth video and follow-up, thanks for the quality work!
Thanks for taking your time to made this video. I learn a lot from you.
I'm just starting on hydroponics as our food sources aren't safe (recent recalls on lettuce for listeria!!). My budget is limited but still rather pay for quality than replace something after a few months. Your reviews of the lights is a tremendous help and greatly appreciated.
This was EXCELLENT INFORMATION
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Thanks for watching Kelly! :D
I never understood why you would mount the driver on the back of the heatsink. I know it is for efficiency but It is just throwing heat in your grow space. I can't imagine a 4-6 foot cable causing you to loose a significant amount of current.
You would loose such an insignificant amount of power it's not even worth doing the math. By the way it's volt drop that occurs across the length of a conductor.
Apogee is now making 2several model ppfd meters that use the "e-par" scale, which includes light to760nm, measuring the far red LEDs included in the newer lights.
I have a dozen or so mixed ViparSpectra XS1000 and XS2000 models. I just bought a couple more, and can't speak highly enough of them. Even had a new defective one a year or so ago that was replaced no questions asked in a matter of days. Thanks for the thorough reviews, makes me feel better that I'm not missing out on something a lot better. I'd be surprised to find anything a whole lot better however, as my results have been fantastic. The multiple small lights let me adjust them individually (I use an Apogee MQ620 e-par meter) as the plants grow. you can adjust position, height and intensity to get the entire area to the desirable levels and DLI for each plant.
Thank you so much.. very good video and very informative. :)
I also want to thank all companies here participating or that have decided to go in the direction of honest or/and accurate advertising.
Thanks so much Paul! Yes, I agree that we should commend the companies that are striving to be honest and transparent with their product specs!
Thanks for all the work you put in!
As always your reports are so helpful!!
Excellent work , the atrium hydro is the way to go. Best of the bunch . I’m gonna buy one thanks
Great videos. They are very well researched. I learned a great deal and I'm looking forward to watching your other videos.
I'm glad the info is able to help out! Thanks so much for watching. :)
Thank you sir for all your research you did for this video! I love the science behind lights and this was very interesting and informative !
Duuude this helped me so much. If any more info pops up keep us updated. I've been interested in Viparspectra
god bless you man...this need to be turned to a series and updates every 2 years hahah
Well done friend, you did a very good job, thank you from Greece, Athens, greetings, we are new and very far back in the led.
That tash deserves a life and a video of its own !!
Transparency. Great business ethics! 👌🏻
Are you planning to do another comparison video for 2024?
Awesome!! Reminds me of Ralph Nader, always liked him, so thank you!
Great video.
Interested in seeing more viparspectra models
Great video! I recently got a nasty surprise when I ordered a second Viparspectra XS1000. The one I ordered in October last year was great, the same as in this video. When I received my new lamp I couldn't believe my eyes because it was completely different. Less powerful driver, less wattage (100 instead of 120 watts) and a dimmer that wasn't freely adjustable anymore. Also the build quilty felt much less refined, would even call it cheap. Unbelievable how they can produce something so vastly inferiour to the previouw version of the same model. Watch out which version you buy online!
Also got the 100 watt one, while the website advertised it as being 120 watt. I got mine in last Wednesday.
16:09 still a good option for those mari...tomatoes! LMAO
😉 hahaha you know it!
I was absolutely dying laughing when that part came up! Priceless!! 😂
Thanks again for your reviews, they help out alot.
Samsung new horticulture led is on the way , so the remaining stock is being aggressively priced . Before the new more efficient leds arrive for purchase in a light. 3.17 umol/j. Vs lm301b. 2.5
Based on your tuto i ordered the pb 1000 pro thank you so much cause its a jungle out there and your teck skills brighten my desicion 😅
Glad I could help! I hope you get great results. :-D
@@Albopepper Thank you and btw your Tutos are great and much appricated i went thrue a lots of you tubers and yours are clearly outstanding clear and precise the whatch Dog aproach is benefecial for everybody including the industry ...im starting out growing rare or endangered trees and learning and watching hundreds of tutorials to master the biology spectrum of these living creatures...a kind of mission and its fascinating i just love it...
and will grow lettuce and tomatoes also 😊
so please continue your great work my name is Robert 👍
thank you 🇨🇦
thank you for helping an old man out-----great info
Wow. Just WOW! Thank you.
Thanks for watching João! I appreciate your support. :)
it would be nice to see a comparison between old and new panels, i have some 7 year old 400w viparspect panels with 5w diodes, and they still perform to perfection but they seem quite power costly compared to the new ones, back then i paid like 100$ for such a panel- i also have one of the green mars hydros with 3w diodes and it is still working 240w but comparing old used panels to brand new ones wouldn´t be a fair comparrison i think.
Thanks again bro!! Keeping them real. An someone should!!
Thanks Lance!
Thank you so very much for all your hard work!!!
I did my first review on the Pandvillow LED grow light then I watch this video and said no wonder why they didn’t give me any directions the owners manual did not tell the proper way to hang the light up they were so worried about a par them tests are pointless if they’re not gonna do it on a growing distance all about the inverse Square law thank you for the truth dangling the light that was the best
Thanks for the info, and doing the discovery work..
Great video as usual...maybe one day you can do a report on the HLG qb288 or their "Diablo" 648 that claims a 2.8 rating since more diodes spread light more deeply and evenly into the canopy...also i just purchased HLG qb288 with sky blue diodes for veg cycles....any info on those would be awesome....HLG can send you some to test out....thanks again for straight up info and easy to understand videos...
Love the information and you non bias stand. Would you be able to do a video on the bigger lights from the same brands as you’ve done here?
Heya! Love your channel, love your input! I'm sure you're aware of the Migro Channel - something I'd love to see is a third party testing of those lights (also I hope to one day see some sort of collab between you're channels, I'm sure there's a lot of great stuff you could do together).
Thanks for your support Peter! Yes I'm familiar with the MIGRO ARAY lights. When I go to the home page I see an Integrating Sphere with the caption: _"Independently tested and verified"._ I click it and it says in part: _"We publish our tests and associated data for all our products on the website"._ So I click to explore their products. Looking at the Aray 2, I see various specs. But I see no Test Reports. Nothing from an independent lab. No Integrating Sphere data. I don't get it. Have they done the proper 3rd party testing? Because their home page makes it appear that way. But I can't find the reports. Let me know if you ever find the data.
Have there been any significant changes in the market since this video was posted? Anything remarkable?
The UK version of the XS1000 is 100w and has 350 diodes. shame you couldn't include that version in your test, it would be intersting to see the side by side data. Nether the less great informative video👍
Thanks for letting us know! I appreciate your feedback. :)
Can I use these lights to grow canna-beans? My last Mari-Tomatoes yeild wasn't as impressive as I thought it would be
Obama say "YES YOU CAN"
For Sure, Grande Budlets from a $65 led..
For a beginner I went with a p1000 for my 2x2 tent and was surprised I had to go buy a second p1000 and now I have 2 p1000s in a 4x4 . Been having them some 2021 these p1000s are so underrated if you get them for the right price..
Good to know! Thanks for sharing your experience. 😀
Excellent test/comparisson, the best i have seen on youtube ! Marshydro has updated the TS 1000 (with new LED Chips). Would be great if you could check it out ! Thanks for your excellent work !
Hey Albopepper: I see Sansi mentioned a few times in your other videos. Will you do review on Sansi grow light and/or the minimum light requirements for growing peppers indoor? ps. Love your videos - very informative and scientific. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Hi, I am a new urban gardener with a patio that faces northeast in Orlando, FL. I am planning on building a concept of your awesome SIP raised garden bed that will fit my patio to begin my gardening journey! Since I face northeast I am pretty sure hanging some LED lights above my plants will give them the best opportunity to grow. Do you still recommend the P1000 in this kind of set up? I can’t remember if you mentioned it is waterproof or not. I truly appreciate all your work and the information you put out!
Would love to see such a good review and look at the PB4000 pro with remote and see how it stacks up vs some of the more expensive brands. Seems to be a excellent light especially for the cost considering its running meanwell drivers and samsung diodes.
honestly thanks so much for this, went down a rabbit hole of led today, was going to go with the sf1000 but then i saw on their newest version that theyre not even using a meanwell driver but their own brand, what do you think of this? also do you think theyre using fake diodes as well? that picture you put up sure looks like it
Using Marshydro ts1000 and tsw2000 lights happy enough with results good video tho some great info happy gardening new sub🍁🍋🍦🍊🧀🍰😎🍁✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
Got a maxsisun pb1500 (150W) for $65 from Amazon
Nice! :D
ohhh that is a great deal i have the same!, and the best part is, is bigger than most 100w 150w lights so it covers more area!!!!!! its really niceee
I like the idea of having 10 bars ro reach into every nook and cranny. Even at half power I would think more bars could increase yield or quality. Maybe a better proportion of red diodes. Its probably better than having two 500 watt lights. Depends if you have a big square grow area or a rectangle.
😉 Thank you so so much for this. Wish I watched it when it came out, it would've saved me from buying some very cheaply made but expensive lights. I bought the Monios-L 60W and yes 60W is way too dim. For just 20 USD more I could have gotten much better lights.
For regular tomatoes at $5/lb, efficiency is everything. But for fruit with a $10-30/g market value, total light is everything. Until you have too much light for a space; then efficiency matters again.
And I pay $.90/kwh, so 1kw of 12/12 is $324/mo. The TS still wins IMO.
Did you mention that the xs 1000 comes with a meanwell 150 watt driver , vs the others 100 watt drivers .
Awsome bro, really thank u for this information. Bless up!
I purchased the vipraspectra xs1500 pro new gen version I've not put it inside yet but it works fantastic 🤜🤛🔥💨🇬🇧