The best explanation I ever seen!!! Thanks man. Keep posting. We need more educated people so we can learn what we need in few minutes without waisting 30min on some boring videos..
170 feet of treated wood is $6000 and Vinyl is $9400. Cedar is $7200. Bit of a bigger jump between then you're saying. I think you're over pricing wooden fencing to make the difference look smaller. This is in Indiana. Quote was done today 7/15/23 from Lowes of all people. Installed. This dudes a salesman.
Well done. I work with SWi Fence of Florida in St. Augustine, FL. Glad to see your comparison included a nice cap and rail finish, stain, and steel posts. These upgrades add to the life expectancy of a wood fence and make for a great comparison, even though a basic wood stockade fence with wood posts and no stain would be significantly less expensive for the initial start up. The steel posts will make the re-investment those 10-15 yrs later less as well, since the posts will not have to be replaced.
Forgot to mention another significant upgrade to the wood - cedar lumber. In most parts of the country, cedar is considerably more costly than its pine counterpart.
Spent over $16,000 on 300 feet and 3 gates of all white 6 foot privacy fence less then a year ago, the company has done thousands like mine many all around me. Mine is the problem child, graciously hes been back twice to reinstall wind blown panels, so now its my problem, the mower shoots rock through like bullets, my kids junp over it and keep knocking the top rails off. And now the neighbor hates the reflections on sunny days he can't watch his TV. The old cedar fence looked so much more appropriate with my wifes gorgeous gardens, all I needed to do was replace the posts. Would never recommend plastic fence to anyone, looks way to cheep in a nice looking yard...
No wood fence is “perfectly fine” after 50 years without regular maintenance and upkeep, including weatherproofing (sealer or stain). Without that after 50 years it couldn’t possibly be “perfectly fine” unless your definition of perfectly fine is ridiculously low.
That wood fence looks way better and if stained or painted, I bet would age better. Vinyl looks clean and white but looks and feels cheap and cheesy to be honest.
Where are you located? The prices I'm getting that include installation are outrageously high. I just need about 120 linear feet and the prices are ~$18,000.00. Plain white vinyl fence, though not from a big box store.
As a landscaping guy, I can wholeheartedly say that vinyl fencing is trash and not worth a dime. A mower or a string trimmer can shoot a rock through it like it's paper, a good solid smack on a panel will break something or make it fall down completely, a string trimmer revved too high will shred right into it if grass is up against it. Hell, a good gust of wind will mess up a vinyl fence. Sometimes they will crack and break if you just look at them wrong. Also they stain very easily if grass clippings or mud hit them, unlike a wood fence that rarely requires cleaning no matter what. ALSO you can get away with 8 feet in between wooden fence posts, while vinyl is usually 6 feet, meaning more post holes and more broken sprinkler lines. I'll never understand why vinyl fencing even exists.
Okay buddy I understand what your saying and ur right plastic/ vinyl looks shitty it strong cedar natual wood is beautiful and I would pick wood but ur right u have to seal it waterproof it the prices are crazy 13 grand for plastic fence omg 😱 people greedy I need a fence privacy so now am confused cuz am not rich and can’t piss away money how much for plastic for 50 feet fence you think ?? Or could I put up the cedar would it still be a lot of bread ?? Not trying to rude it’s just so sad how people who own small business over charge I understand u gotta make a living but come on really thank u I really want cedar it’s so beautiful compare to plastic I know it won’t die like a wood fence any comments are all welcome thanks have a blessed day 🤘🤘🤘
If you're doing it yourself (which you should if you're not wealthy), do a wood fence. A wooden fence is way more simple and approachable for a DIY install, not to mention cheaper, sturdier, and longer lasting. Stay away from vinyl at all costs.
thank you for this video. i dont like wood fence cause it turns gray eventually and i dont like vinyl cause it gets dirty and sways in the wind. i LOVE iron fence. oh, can i use that fake wood material that they use to build porches?
Yes, it's possible to build fences using composite or PVC material. There are products designed specifically for this purpose, but you can also re-purpose deck boards for your fence. We've built several privacy fences using Deckorators decking and they look fantastic!
The numbers we used in this scenario are real prices for an example project. Our vinyl fence price is roughly 4% more than wood when compared per project. However, prices vary between regions and companies, so there is not one single cost difference between cedar and vinyl. Thanks for commenting!
@@Swagalious689 These prices were from February 2021. At the time, our prices on wood projects were between 5% and 15% higher than in 2020. In our experience, even with normal wood prices, cedar fencing is more expensive than vinyl when you take maintenance costs into account. This isn't a universal truth though, and your mileage may vary.
Vinyl naturally expands in higher temperatures and contracts in lower temps. At extremely low temperatures it will become more brittle, and with enough force will crack. It's not significantly more fragile than during warm weather though; either way, if your vinyl fence receives enough impact it will break. Snow is only a problem if allowed to build up enough for the snow load (weight) to be a problem. In the Pacific Northwest where we install fences we don't have any vinyl fence issues related to snow or low temps.
Well been doing fences for 30 years I was the first to put up vinyl fences in CA but oh god it went wrong in the cold it just cracked in the heat it cracked cost me so much money jump a head 20 years they told me it was made better no same save your money don't put it up
The best explanation I ever seen!!! Thanks man. Keep posting. We need more educated people so we can learn what we need in few minutes without waisting 30min on some boring videos..
170 feet of treated wood is $6000 and Vinyl is $9400. Cedar is $7200. Bit of a bigger jump between then you're saying. I think you're over pricing wooden fencing to make the difference look smaller. This is in Indiana. Quote was done today 7/15/23 from Lowes of all people. Installed. This dudes a salesman.
Well done. I work with SWi Fence of Florida in St. Augustine, FL. Glad to see your comparison included a nice cap and rail finish, stain, and steel posts. These upgrades add to the life expectancy of a wood fence and make for a great comparison, even though a basic wood stockade fence with wood posts and no stain would be significantly less expensive for the initial start up. The steel posts will make the re-investment those 10-15 yrs later less as well, since the posts will not have to be replaced.
Forgot to mention another significant upgrade to the wood - cedar lumber. In most parts of the country, cedar is considerably more costly than its pine counterpart.
Spent over $16,000 on 300 feet and 3 gates of all white 6 foot privacy fence less then a year ago, the company has done thousands like mine many all around me. Mine is the problem child, graciously hes been back twice to reinstall wind blown panels, so now its my problem, the mower shoots rock through like bullets, my kids junp over it and keep knocking the top rails off. And now the neighbor hates the reflections on sunny days he can't watch his TV. The old cedar fence looked so much more appropriate with my wifes gorgeous gardens, all I needed to do was replace the posts. Would never recommend plastic fence to anyone, looks way to cheep in a nice looking yard...
Sorry to hear that is hasn't been working out for you! Is this a fence that was installed by Cascade Fence and Deck?
No Idaho fence in eastern Washington
Thank you. This clarifies which fence would be best.
So locally, 250 linear feet of cedar fencing current price is $7300 installed and sealed. Thats with inflated lumber prices....
What do you think 250ft cedar 6ft privacy would run with 2024 July/ August pricing?
Thank you for the information.
Very nicely done.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video & analysis, Thank you!
You don’t need to stain it that often. Waste of money! My father and I built a wood fence back in 1974 and its still perfectly fine!
No wood fence is “perfectly fine” after 50 years without regular maintenance and upkeep, including weatherproofing (sealer or stain). Without that after 50 years it couldn’t possibly be “perfectly fine” unless your definition of perfectly fine is ridiculously low.
I knew it was about 11k nowadays. Ty for the breakdown
Helpful. Thank you. 👍
That wood fence looks way better and if stained or painted, I bet would age better. Vinyl looks clean and white but looks and feels cheap and cheesy to be honest.
Just get composite fence with color.
Vinal fence looks like vinyl siding...
Vinyl = Uv discoloration damage
Wow a fence cost just as much as a Roof
seems like more expensive
If the national average is 3-4k why is this so much more? I'm going to get some estimates for my backyard and see what I come in at.
Estimates are in, $4,219 for wood (pine) and $4,800 for vinyl, 165 linear feet one gate, 6ft privacy fence. Not bad, IMO.
Where are you located? The prices I'm getting that include installation are outrageously high. I just need about 120 linear feet and the prices are ~$18,000.00. Plain white vinyl fence, though not from a big box store.
very informative thank you
As a landscaping guy, I can wholeheartedly say that vinyl fencing is trash and not worth a dime. A mower or a string trimmer can shoot a rock through it like it's paper, a good solid smack on a panel will break something or make it fall down completely, a string trimmer revved too high will shred right into it if grass is up against it. Hell, a good gust of wind will mess up a vinyl fence. Sometimes they will crack and break if you just look at them wrong. Also they stain very easily if grass clippings or mud hit them, unlike a wood fence that rarely requires cleaning no matter what. ALSO you can get away with 8 feet in between wooden fence posts, while vinyl is usually 6 feet, meaning more post holes and more broken sprinkler lines. I'll never understand why vinyl fencing even exists.
Okay buddy I understand what your saying and ur right plastic/ vinyl looks shitty it strong cedar natual wood is beautiful and I would pick wood but ur right u have to seal it waterproof it the prices are crazy 13 grand for plastic fence omg 😱 people greedy I need a fence privacy so now am confused cuz am not rich and can’t piss away money how much for plastic for 50 feet fence you think ?? Or could I put up the cedar would it still be a lot of bread ?? Not trying to rude it’s just so sad how people who own small business over charge I understand u gotta make a living but come on really thank u I really want cedar it’s so beautiful compare to plastic I know it won’t die like a wood fence any comments are all welcome thanks have a blessed day 🤘🤘🤘
If you're doing it yourself (which you should if you're not wealthy), do a wood fence. A wooden fence is way more simple and approachable for a DIY install, not to mention cheaper, sturdier, and longer lasting. Stay away from vinyl at all costs.
How will this hold up in the heat down south?
Vinyl not well
Thk u
thank you for this video. i dont like wood fence cause it turns gray eventually and i dont like vinyl cause it gets dirty and sways in the wind. i LOVE iron fence.
oh, can i use that fake wood material that they use to build porches?
Yes, it's possible to build fences using composite or PVC material. There are products designed specifically for this purpose, but you can also re-purpose deck boards for your fence. We've built several privacy fences using Deckorators decking and they look fantastic!
@@CascadeFenceandDeck thank you for the vote of confidense. im going to do it then. :0)
Vinyl fencing is significantly more expensive than cedar, not just $435
The numbers we used in this scenario are real prices for an example project. Our vinyl fence price is roughly 4% more than wood when compared per project. However, prices vary between regions and companies, so there is not one single cost difference between cedar and vinyl. Thanks for commenting!
Wood prices right now are so high that gap is closing up. Imo
Price of wood is extremely high right now. Historically you are correct not with this current market.
@@Swagalious689 These prices were from February 2021. At the time, our prices on wood projects were between 5% and 15% higher than in 2020. In our experience, even with normal wood prices, cedar fencing is more expensive than vinyl when you take maintenance costs into account. This isn't a universal truth though, and your mileage may vary.
thank u
Thanks great info
Thanks for the video. Funny I found someone in the PDX area as I'm looking. Actually sent out a request to 8 subs and got 3 replies in ~10 days ;-|
In installing a vinyl fence should you use wood post to stabilize it?
We use Z metal inserts in each post to stabilize!
@@otdubbs9225 thank you very much.
How does the vinyl fence hold up in the cold. Snow and freezing??
Vinyl naturally expands in higher temperatures and contracts in lower temps. At extremely low temperatures it will become more brittle, and with enough force will crack. It's not significantly more fragile than during warm weather though; either way, if your vinyl fence receives enough impact it will break. Snow is only a problem if allowed to build up enough for the snow load (weight) to be a problem. In the Pacific Northwest where we install fences we don't have any vinyl fence issues related to snow or low temps.
I'm in northern Washington, haven't had problems in winter but cold morning my mower shoot rocks through it like bullets...
Do you service the southside of the state?
They work all around sw Washington and Portland area
Respect 👍
Well been doing fences for 30 years I was the first to put up vinyl fences in CA but oh god it went wrong in the cold it just cracked in the heat it cracked cost me so much money jump a head 20 years they told me it was made better no same save your money don't put it up