▶ Comparison of Aliens « IN PREVIEW » 4K (4K DI) HDR10 vs 2010 EDITION
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Frankly from these stills I think it looks spectacular. Fact is we can still watch the older bluray I have it it's fine
My thoughts exactly.
No matter which way you look at it, subjectively and objectively, but removing or even reducing grain is still reducing detail inherent to the 35mm source and by applying A DIGITAL tool such as an AI algorithm to apply sharpness to details that have already been reduced is processed, unnatural and not the best way to preserve a film shot on film. Personally, im not a fan of this processing, but will respect others who do, however at the end of the day, this film deserves far better treatment from my point of view.
Why respect others who do? That will just legitimize it
I remember once inquiring what actual resolution 35mm is and it appears to be around 10-11k.
I work in a Cinema for some time and remember when 35mm was the dominant carrier of film.
The quality of 35mm still amazes Me when I place a print up to the light to see the film stock.
Its interesting to note and compare the comparisons in depth to the image with analog film vs digital as the resolutions themselves get higher over the Last few Years.
I wonder if One Day we will ever see that 10=11k resolution in the Home and if it will bring back the unparalleled depth to the image that 35 created.
I love Digital in lots of ways but not all of them.
Everything being in fine artificial detail for Me seems to chop down the depth in a lot of modern Films.
i’ve genuinely bought some 4ks that look worse than the 2k hd there is definitely sometimes an unnatural look in 4k where the picture looks softer less detail but they just use hdr to make it look better.. it often doesn’t. spartacus lawrence of arabia gladiator chinatown look awesome but upgrades like that are few and far between. rosemary’s baby, sleepy hollow and reservoir dogs look like downgraded trash compared to their 2k upgrades from a decade ago. most ppl will just except anything they are told by big tech and pop culture and believe they must be better but it’s not always the case. picnic at hanging rock 4k looks like it has this jaundiced yellow colour to it because the director has now retroactively changed it and claimed it was his original vision. i believe it’s just pretentious artsy nonsense or often just to make it different for a cash grab. don’t get me started on wicker man either 😂 too many youtubers are full of 💩 and every upgrade they claim is amazing. i must say though that aliens looked great already so it’s difficult to do much improvement from the 2010 version
@@Exor840 100% spot on.
There should be a set standard which film industries should follow before allowing there films to be made onto new formats.
Its unacceptable for them to pass sloppy transfers and mastering.
I miss THX and the standards that the process entailed.
Its ironic that we have new formats but they are not pushed enough in so many labels and studios.
They should set up a facility like the one Lucas uses and allow all the film industry to rent the mastering process for each film title instead of trying to save as much Money as possible and then thinking the buying public will just never ask questions after buying sub standard mastering.
@@zark212 yes Coppola Lucas milius we’re lucky enough to live in a time when experimental technology and artistic freedom could flourish. Hollywood took risks. They all worked together with many different strengths and ideas bouncing off each other. Would a John carpenter succeed today ?? I doubt it. A24 has done some good work but can’t really think of much else. I thought Peter Jackson would continue to make amazing movies but it never really happened.
Cameron is literally using AI to upscale his films and its not right
So all the technology that Cameron used to make the movie in the first place ; that’s good!
But AI technology; you know, technology that takes on part of the burden itself - because it’s been written so well - that’s ‘bad’.
The SUPER HIGH DEFINITION is the definitive pick. I got it on pre-order. Thanks for this. I can VERY clearly tell the diffrences.
😂😂😂
in short, the green color filter is gone, but so is most of the film grain. welp...
Worth holding onto those blu rays.
The greenish color is much closer to the original prints.
The new grading look like plastic.
Yes
No film grain = No fuzziness
@@LukeLovesRose Bullsh*t.
The grain is sharpness and details.
The 4k is a waxy and mushy DNR mess.
@@martinddhyj Nope. These screenshots are a horrible representation of the actual image. The 4K stream looks fantastic
I'm glad you do zoom in shots as it can be hard to tell if it's an actual upgrade in resolution, or if they just color corrected the original blu-ray and slapped it on a 4K disc.
I wonder. When you watch a film, do you stare at it two inches from your TV?
@@qasimmir7117 No, why would I do that?
@@colt5189
Well if you can’t tell without zooming in, then what’s the problem?
Are we sure this isnt just an AI upscale of the existing 2K master with colour regrade and HDR? Edge enhancement and uncanny valley facial features are the dead giveaway.
Some of the actors faces look so waxy too
Actually, we are sure it is.
Yes, thats all it is. There is uncanny valley all over the 4K upscale, they have butchered the film and turned it into something that looks more like a videogame.
@@nick1635 I shared a Reddit link showing comparison images and they were removed...
No one knows. I wouldn't put it past Cameron to be lazy and do it that way.
It would be better to compare that actual 4k disc when it arrives rather than this streaming version. As they will be a difference. Streaming in HIGHLY compressed in comparison. The Internet connection doesn't have a fat enough pipe to fit all of the bits of data for a UHD resolution film. So, the picture and sound are both compressed. That's why i always stick with phisycal media. Plus, if the Internet connection drops, the quality is lost
It's Disney, where the digital has better audio than the physical disc. Disney never gonna change. Someone has to take the fox titles from them 😂
A I paintings look pretty awful. I can't say I'm looking forward to the disc release if it's going to look like this. That shot of Ripley looking up at the Queen looked horrendous.
How did it look horrendous? It was clearer and definitely a better picture. Each to their own though.
derp @@krisorgan
I just watched the entire movie side by side on a 65 inch TV. The 4K version looks like plasticine garbage.
LMAO. You're full of s**t. You clearly did not watch the same 4K stream that I did
This looks very AI uncanny valley in enough shots. I'm sticking with my blu ray
WTF are you talking about?
@@LukeLovesRoseThe 4K looks like T2 level of wax museum... Screw james cameron and yourself accepting this pile of shite.
@@LukeLovesRose Plastic faces, harsh edges. Aliens is supposed to be a grainy movie. You cannot de-grain while maintaining detail or otherwise altering the picture. That's why whoever authored this 4K, used edge enhancement after the de-grain filter. It's OK to remove grain up to a point to assist the streaming codec.
@@bmwofboganville456 You are seeing things that I'm not. Let's drop it
And I'll stick with the DVD version from 1999
being as the blu-ray is sourced from a 4k source, I suppose that explains why the improvements are minimal, as due to that, it of course already looks really nice back in 2010
Minimal? I see a huge increase in detail and sharpness.
@@breadordecide You need an eye test. Aliens 2010 Bluray for starters holds more shadow detail than this 4K.
@@bmwofboganville456 Can you point me to a specific scene where you're seeing more shadow detail?
@@batman.darthmaul All you are seeing is the result of sharpening tehniques. There is no more ACTUAL detail. What you are NOT seeing is the side effects of such a technique(ringing etc).
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The cool thing is you can own all versions of this awesome movie! If you don’t like the 4k treatment, you still have your HD, SD, blu-ray, VHS, or whatever to pop in and enjoy. Oh, and that’s only if you buy physical media. Otherwise, enjoy this new version in your online library.
And I plan to own this, regardless. I still have my original VHS and laserdisc
Best version of Aliens will be the DVD, or the Bluray with the teal tint removed (as best as possible) via TV settings.
@@bmwofboganville456 If you dont want to watch this beautiful and sharp 4K, you don't have to
@My moonization What happened to the 4k Blu-ray on Amazon?
That’s good question !
7:30 The edge enhancement on Sigourney's nose is none too flattering.
I’ve got a copy on hold for the release but I’m with most of you guys on this, it look too clean
Thanks for the comparison. It's interesting how many people don't have a problem at all with these "enhancements", but probably have an issue with Lucas messing with Star Wars. This is even worse - AI re-interpreting things in the picture that isn't there to begin with (most visible on actor's faces in zoom-in images). It's got more in common with coloring B/W films or re-doing them in 3D, and nothing to do with preservation of the original movie shot on 35mm film. What's next? "Enhancing" the other works of art like paintings, to make them more vibrant, sharpen or whatnot in the museums?
Some of Lucas's changes were welcomed by many fans, like adding windows to Cloud City. The problem is the vast majority of his changes made no sense and looked awful.
Personally, I think some enhancements should be done to old films that used stop motion or matte paintings. Those effects look seamless on an old CRT TV, but completely stand out in high resolution on a large TV.
Magnificent ! I love the details and the colors !
Yes there are some scenes in which the AI treatment and noise reduction really messes things up. Ripley's face, especially her pastel paint looking eyes, at 15:30 is a good example for this. But the majority of these stills really look good. Of course, Aliens special effects always benefited from the lower resolution releases. The further we journey into the realms of higher resolutions, the more unrealistic they look. The colony buildings, the Newt family rover and the dropship looked awesome in the VHS and DVD releases as the blurry image and low detail did a good job at concealing all the many giveaways of them just being small plastic miniature models. The Bluray unwillingly brought all those giveaways to light, greatly harming the overall quality of those peticular scenes. The 4k version increases this even further. The dropship hangar scene at 9:50 is testimony to this. The Bluray´s slightly blurry image still upholds the illusion to certain degree , but the 4k version clearly exposes this scene as what it always has been : a still shot of minituare model diorama made of painted wood and plastic. The immersion has finally been destroyed by showing too much details.
It's weird seeing a 4K presentation of a movie shot on celluloid that looks like it's shot on a digital camera circa 2010! I remember the controversy over the Blu-ray being 'degrained', but this is really overboard. Some of the faces look full-on CGI! Trouble is, Cameron is a revisionist director, akin to an artist who goes to a public gallery and tinkers with his paintings. A major reason I upgraded to 4K was for the higher bitrate handling grain better. I want Aliens to look grainy: it's part of the film's atmosphere. I'm still undecided on buying it.
Thanks for sharing this. I`d read some Amazon reviews saying that the 4K version has been spoilt by altering the 4K transfer? As an Aliens fan, I`ll be sure to buy it once I have a 4K TV.
Very digitalised. Where is the grain?
Exactly, the 2010 BD resolved the grain nicely over the past releases but this new 4K transfer is a step backwords.
Finally someone say it. Thanks.
Bro's...they've been using machine learning to clean up movies for about a decade now. There wasn't any generative Ai used in these restorations, so chill. Every visual choice made here was actually made my Cameron and team...if you don't like those choices...that's your prerogative. But stop treating it like "Ai did all the work".
Remember that massive leap from DVD to Blu Ray? Unfortunately the law of diminishing returns has reared its head. Some shots look slightly sharper, and they've reduced the teal, but I could hardly tell any difference.
Maybe change your UA-cam settings to 2160p from 1080p then you might see the jump 😂
DNR being incorrectly used by some and in the Conan release in Feb 2024 already being seen is Top Of Line when DNR is used correctly or not at all can preserve the original. But film grain is a normal part of actually film and being overcorecting makes it worse.Aliens is less offensive than True Lies the next to see is the Abyss 4k.
It going to be a constant reminder if your seeing the best version or an AI WAXING HORROR MOVIE. I keep versions on Blu-ray before this DNR SCRUBBING 😮.
You big tease! It’s finally here.
Some shots I can definitely see an improvement: Jones’s, the cat, looks amazing.
Other shots I’m conflicted: Ripleys side profile - grain in gone, I can see halos on her profile from hedge enhancement.
Ripley looking up at the Queen: her eyes look ‘artificial’, her sweat looks very digital.
What size screen did you watch it in? How did you find the image?
Frankly I have never seen an Aliens so precise. It’s just a monumental slap in the face. And I'm not even talking about the Atmos sound which is a treat because for once, it's a real added value. Indeed, you have very subtle and very well arranged sounds in all channels, not to mention the atmo no spheric atmosphere that takes you from the beginning to the end of the film. Merry Christmas !!!
On Ripley's side shot you can see her facial hair on the skin, not halos. Watch this on a big tv screen and not your phone.
You Can Bet That The Entire Quadrilogy Will Get Sometime Get A Full Release Like It Did Years Ago But Should Come With Over An Hour Of Additional New Features Like How The Films Still Have Impact After More Than 38 Years And Maybe Bios Of The Actors (Like On Some DVDs) And Maybe An Improved MotherMoad👍
Would you kindly make an unboxing video for the Aliens 4K set. Or share some pictures.
Are there any cool inserts like postcards of artwork for the movie?
Also could you please share the BDInfo for both discs?
Thanks.
I've never done « an unboxing ». The purpose of my channel is only to make comparisons and I have been doing this for years. Who knows, one day I will, but for now my subscribers are very happy with how I compare some Blu-rays. Also, if you want to have all the information on all James Cameron films, you will find it on my community wall. Happy holidays !
@@Mymoonization There are other channels that do unboxing. Personally, I never understood the appeal. At the end of the day you are looking at a box and contents inside. This channel is awesome because it is a straight up comparison. Worth its weight in 100 unboxing videos that ultimately show you nothing of merit
@@AchtungEnglanderRight On ❤!!!!!!
So glad I canceled my order on all 3 of his movies on 4k.
Gonna stick with my blu ray and DVD
I hope Arrow or Shout etc will get the license to do them in the future.
But I won't hold my breath on that.
Ignorant decision
Thank you for this! The 4k is definitely an upscale, not a 4K Digital Intermediate... unless you were stating from 4K Digital release. 👍
I only have the physical versions and this is thanks to my distributor. And I think that some fans will not have the chance to get the Blu-ray on March 12 because it's already out of print and to my knowledge it has been postponed until June or even July.
Thanks and Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 !!!
@@Mymoonization So hold on with the new release coming out on digital and in physical you’re saying that there will be differences in picture quality ? It’s the same new release though so how would they be different quality ?
No I think you misunderstood. I have the physical versions and comparing it with the digital version, there will be no difference but the bitrate only.
@@Mymoonization got you 👍
I would consider updating if the audio has been remastered in Atmos?
For your information this new edition features incredible Atmos !!!
Dark areas on 35mm prints hold very little detail, and filmmakers made their films knowing that dark areas would look really dark on the prints. What you're seeing on blu-rays is often not what was originally intended to be seen. If you can get 35mm film scan you'd be doing yourself a favor (it pops up on eBay and Ecrater).
For instance the fact the marines are using flashlights is redundant in the Blu-ray and 4k because everything is so brightly lit in those transfers. Also Newt attempting to hide in the vent, only to be illuminated by Ripley's flashlight... in Blu-ray she's visible the entire time. The scenes would be shot differently if there was so much light to begin with. That's the whole point of Cameron firing the original director of photography who wanted everything brightly lit, but now Cameron who's known for his perfectionism approves it !?!
Keep in mind guys, that YT is further reducing any detail that is left… but I absolutely agree that techniques such as DNR should be avoided!
Just curious ... Wouldn't playing the 2010 edition look close to 4K if you go into the tv menu and alter the contrast / brightness / sharpness / saturation etc turning it up a notch or so ?
Close, sort of but not really. The process is more complex than a few tweeks. HDR, for one, will be objectively missing from "upscaling" the BD. I'm not sure if I will pick up this one myself, I will rewatch the BD and see if it holds up.
Some shots look less cyan-biased on the 4K edition, but it is definitely overly grain managed.
The 4K version has more detail than real life.
4:19 is that not a shot only included in the special edition of Aliens? I had heard that only the theatrical cut was getting the 4k disc and the special edition was going to be an included blu-ray disc. Is this incorrect or did you just use that shot from the included special edition blu-ray.
No, there will be two 4K versions planned for March 12. These screenshots are from the 4K Blu-ray and the Blu-Ray anthology edition, 2010. Happy new year !
The 4K UHD has both cuts in 4K.
I wish for the longer cut, but removing Hadley's Hope scene early on. That scene should never have been released. Thanks for posting this - it's amazing!
16:12 4k disaster, look at the ship outline
The Blu-ray also has it (this is how the film looks) but the 4K added edge enhancement so it's even more visible
@@ughugh351 might be edge enhancement highlighting the existing mattes.
From laserdisc to VHS to DVD and now either way you watch you can still walk away knowing the story. I feel these critics are watching details and not watching the movie
Need Goldilocks. Just tone down the contrast/or really mid tone and highlight brightness, tone down the sharpness aka and/or add more grain back in and it would be pretty impressive in terms of artificial detail. Not a restoration but as a creative remaster it’s impressive. Film doesn’t need it, just needs added bit depth, but it’s interesting.
Reading the comments, I'm not sure why people think seeing this sharper image is "good". Its an awful AI upscale, not an original negative scan. All the depth perception is completely gone so now you have a totally flat image. When composting images in backgrounds, you're told to add a natural haze to give the impression of distance...everything like that is completely stripped away. Your eyes are drawn to things you weren't supposed to be able to see..Good example is Gormans patch at 8:00 that emblem wasn't designed to be seen with such clarity....so all the imperfections are painfully obvious. Same goes for the matte painting backgrounds, they stick out like a sore thumb now. As a lifelong fan of this movie I would still say the 1080 bluray is the best option, they've tried to make an old movie look modern here, like it was never shot on film. I hope they eventually re-release this from a proper film negative scan, only way to do it properly
exactly, I think they’re just trolls, wouldn’t worry
True. This is abomination.
Perfect comment!
Thanks for doing these as always. After reading the controversy around the master it doesn't look as bad but will wait to see what it's like in motion.
Why Cameron, why???
How did a copy so early? Did Disney send you a preview copy?
It came out streaming 2 weeks ago.
Oh I see, thanks
If you talking about this comparison is from the physical Blu-ray only and not the digital version. And between the two you won't see any difference, except the bitrate.
I don’t get why people are moaning, from these pictures I think it definitely looks superior. But what do I know and what does James Cameron know?
The bluray has a bluish tint. The 4K has a purple tint, which I have not seen before. Overall the 4K is a definite improvement.
It's surprisingly a lot closer to the original look of the film, the previous blu ray pushed a lot more teal colours whereas it seems this has a more neutral white balance. Reminds me of the Quadrilogy DVD release, though not quite as magenta.
Damn it really does look like AI art sad news
Is this from the 4K disc (releasing 3/12/2024)?
Yes Michael !!
What’s strange here is that normally these new 4K masters have that horrible teal tint slapped on them but in this case it seems it’s the 2010 master that has the teal wash and not this new 4k master . I think it looks great personally . The details are incredible but the only thing I don’t like in new masters these days is the dnr taking all the film grain out . Film grain is important for the time when the film was done on actual film and you feel like you’re watching the proper film with the grain intact but this dnr crap makes everything look too fake and digital
For you info there is no DNR for Aliens, NONE !!!
@@Mymoonization 09:35 look at the edge enhancement on the faces in the canteen, the left side of the frame looks pretty bad on the 4k. Maybe in motion it's OK.
@@Mymoonization You trying to tell me this new 4K hasn’t had DNR on it ? Even the 2010 master was DNR’d because it’s apparent that Cameron hates grain
@ClintH400 Absolutely no DNR at all !
@@Mymoonization Don’t be so silly
great job Moon :)
10:20 what is happening to Burke's face? Why is Ripley's overall so smooth?
15:29 wtf happened to her face?
Nice trip backwards into the uncanny Valley.
I'm keeping my 1920 BR, thanks.
One thing to remember while watching this video, the max bitrate I've seen is about 15MB/s for the digital online only release(streaming), while the BR 4KUHD will probably be closer to 50MB/s when it releases in a few months. Still shots never look as good as motion, so they look off compared to actually watching it. Plus UA-cam compression is whack and makes everything look worse than it really is.
Exactly. That's what these trolls refuse to acknowledge
So it means that we finally see the quadrilogy in 4k in 2024 or do we need to wait another 5 years until the series is complete?
Who knows !!!
Je pense 2025 pour alien 3 et 2026 pour alien 4
Enfin je l'espère
Excited to watch the 2014 Blu-ray I got in the mail today. The 4k left a strange taste in my mouth my mouth. I’ll either gain more respect for the 4k or dislike it more.
HOLY MACARONI! This is beyond my expectations, I am glad I preordered the physical copy coming out in March. Thank you for the video!
Beyond expectations?
Are you blind?
It’s awful and fake looking, AI filters and DNR.
The Blu-ray is much better and filmic.
Bonjour, oui C'est pas mal mais un vrai scan 4K aurait bien aidé ! Encore une fois, d'autre films ont un scan 4K, et sont bien plus net. Certains plans sont flous, bon, mouais, la définition générale est bien mais pas honnête. Les couleurs, ont s'endort un peu. J'attends des scènes intégrales HDR pour juger plus précisément. Et à quoi ressemble le blu ray des 30 ans svp ? Il est supérieur au blu ray de 2010?
Bonjour Lunitics
En ce qui concerne cette comparaison, certains me disent qu’ils ont déjà ke HDR activé et d’autres me disent le contraire. Peut-être qu’en France il faudrait un tout petit peu attendre mais cela ne durera pas très longtemps. Il faudrait la regarder soit dans quelques minutes voire dans quelques heures. Personnellement, je n’ai jamais vu un Aliens aussi précis et même si les couleurs ne vous plaisent pas je peux vous rassurer une chose, c’est qu’il faut le regarder plusieurs fois vos yeux s’habitueront au final. C’est ce qui m’est arrivé au début quand j’ai eu l’occasion de le voir. C’est juste une claque monumentale. Et je ne vous parle même pas du son Atmos qui est un régal car la pour le coup, c’est une vraie valeur ajoutée. En effet, vous avez des sons très subtile et très bien agencé dans tous les canaux, sans compter l’ambiance atmosphérique qui vous prend du début jusqu’à la fin du film. Et concernant votre deuxième et dernière question, la version 30e anniversaire est identique à la version anthologie. Au plaisir de vous relire. Je vous souhaite de passer de très bonnes fêtes de fin d’année.
@@Mymoonization Merci ! Bon, et bien, je les prendrais peut-être au final, Abyss, Aliens et Titanic. Car après visionage HDR de scène, et comparaison en 4K, c'est un peu mieux. Même si je ne tolère pas l'usage d'une IA. Mais bon, j'accepte de me prêter à l'expérience.
@lunaticsstudio Je n’ai pas la prétention d’avoir raison, mais je pense que vous ne le regretterez pas !
05:20...YIKES! This 4k is a trainwreck of epic proportions.
I may give this a change when the disc is released….but true lies is definitely a no go for me unfortunately
You do not have a copy of the 4K UHD disc. Please feel free to remove this comment. Thanks.
If he did I think Disneys legal department would be onto him.
Is this an AI custom or is it the actual 4K release? If it’s the later, it looks like it’s the least “teal tinted” from the 3 releases. I’ve seen other screen captures from the 4K release that are _more_ tealed up than the blu-ray (such as the hallway scene at 11:41)… so where do these come from? 🤷
The is the official 4K release !
no grain = no detail
No grain = No fuzziness blurring out the actual picture
The detail is obviously there moreso in the 4K version, judging by the zoomed in screenshots. Whether or not that detail has been generated by A.I. I cannot say.
Exactly, how do people not get that?
the AI processing looks very heavy. A real 4K transfer with a proper cleaning would be much better than this.
Definitely a good transfer. True Lies and The Abyss looking very good also. Thanks Moon.💯👍
Cant wait to buy the 4K. And i thought the Quadrilogy version on blu ray back in 2010 looked outstanding.
The Blu-ray is much better.
Filmic, nice grain, better colors.
The 4k UHD Disc looks artificial and fake - DNR massacre.
I think it looks awesome. Day one buy here. Yes there is some DNR. Can tell in some of the closeups like the alien inside Ridley but....so many awesome upgrades. The soldiers patch, the pod shot where you can actually see the venting in the foreground. The Blu ray looked great but this is better imo even if a few shots look off
After watching this, in 2024. I can confirm the Star Wars 4k from disney will never get fixed at this point 😂
its just looks weird
As someone who has always been a little disappointed with how rough the visual fidelity of ALIENS was, this 4K is a miracle imo. To me, the film now looks like it was meant to without sacrificing the tone and atmosphere. Some of the shots of the Aliens here look, well, otherworldly. Look at 15:11 - the way the light silhouettes the alien so strongly. Pure atmosphere. It looks like how I always thought the film looked like in my head.
@@nope5657 I always liked the gritty graineness of Aliens image quality and the Blu-ray actually looked surprisingly good . Though to me the 4k doesn't look natural. It's looks artificial and takes me out the film .
The edge enhancement is excessive, the more I look at these captures, the less I like.
Bishop, quit screwing around....
But why still not available on Disney + in 4K when everything else just about is? Unless their aiming to get as big a bang for bucks from 4K Blu-Ray sales first.
Most of this is HOLY S*** great, but the occasional bit looks really weird. Gorman’s uniform outside Ripley’s looks like it’s made out of a solid block of plastic on the 4K version, and the increase of actual pixels on the screen behind Ripley in the debrief scene is downright crazy. On the whole though it looks stunning.
You do such fantastic work... MUCH appreciated. Keep it up good sir
Thanks and Merry Christmas !
The box art wrong is so laughably bad that I can't add it to my movie collection. As per these examples, the 4k transfer and the cover deserve eachother.
So it is THAT bad
In many pics comparisons I was completely whooaaaaa, in a good way ofc! Top work as always 😁 The visual upgrade is damn nice and the audio track is promising too. This will be a must buy for sure😃 Happy holidays to you 😆
Happy Holidays to you and yours thx 🙏🏻
The only good thing might be the Dolby Atmos sound. There's no difference in the picture quality.
What the hell is up with that waxy 4K...
IT'S ATROCIOUS 👎
These are bad screenshots. I've seen the full 4K stream. Its AMAZING.
@@LukeLovesRose Massive cope.
Holy shit. I was worried but now I’m excited. I’ll always have my blu-rays as a backup but most of these stills are shockingly good. A few feel a little AI so I hope they feel fine in motion.
Great! Overall texture, sharpness, detail... I feel like near sight boy who finally wear a glass for the first time lol~
Is this comparison the 4K Disc Version or the Web Prasentation?
Physical only !
Love your work. So glad the 4k of this film is on point. Was worried they do a shoddy job. Looks sublime 😅👌
On point? Lmao
It’s awful.
The Blu-ray is much better, filmic and without fake AI filters.
There is no AI filters None !!!!
Oh my god, he will do the same with The Abyss.. It's damn unnatural. Celluloid is a canvas, it is organic. You don't 'clean' the Gioconde by AI. I don' care for detail if it waxes out the image. I want grain because grain is on the celluloid. You can tweak contrast and color to some degree, but be true to the source..
Just watched the 4K stream and it's worse than T2 UHD, a very inconsistent AI upscale job that sucked the life out of the film, the old blu blows it out of the water, let's hope that they backtrack and just give us the unfucked 4K scan on disc.
LMAO. You must've watched something different than I did. I watched the Blu-ray cut of certain scenes and then the new 4K stream. All I saw was that they cleaned up the film grain. That's it!
Sadly these are the transfer we are going to have to live with for a long time. Atleast we can fall back on the Aliens BD and the 4K of The Abyss sounds much closer too looking like a film shot on celluloid thankfully.
Goodby teal!
Hello unnatural magenta plastic look.
Hey Moon, overall looks fantastic - sharpness, colours and contrast all much improved. Though a few shots looks like the film grain has been drastically reduced, e.g. the close-up of Ripley's chin in her side profile. What did you think of it in motion? Thanks again for another awesome video! 🤙
Frankly I have never seen an Aliens so precise. It’s just a monumental slap in the face. And I'm not even talking about the Atmos sound which is a treat because for once, it's a real added value. Indeed, you have very subtle and very well arranged sounds in all channels, not to mention the atmo no spheric atmosphere that takes you from the beginning to the end of the film. Merry Christmas !!!
Wow, did the older Blu-ray have that much pixelization, and look like a DVD upscale, or is that some streaming version screenshots. What are the sources for this?
I only have the physical versions Lenny and this is thanks to my distributor !
Trustworthy man.👍👌💯
@@Mymoonization Then I'm even more amazed how badly the 2010 version looks, I must have gotten used to all the UHD content in the last years, and don't remember it looking so much worse. 😝
And yet, the anthology version remains the best version ever made on Blu-ray if we have to compare it to previous editions. But with this new 4K version, it's so beautiful, you're rediscovering the film for the first time and I'm not even talking about the Atmos sound which is splendid.
@@MymoonizationWow can’t wait ❤❤❤
Extremely disappointed in James Cameron, the 4K version looks so bad because of the trash upscaling. Why did we wait years after they were supposed to come if they weren't even going to bother doing anything you couldn't already find online from some random guy?
I'm astounded they released this with how many of these scenes look straight up worse and less realistic than the blu-ray. So much just becomes mushy and misshapen, the drawn backgrounds get the worst of it for sure.
Can't wait, thanks !
"Is the 4k been released"?
March 12th !
Jonesy's Fur...... 🤯
I don't know why I watch these comparisons. They just piss me off.
No Titanic comparison?
Of course on my playlist !
Omg thank you, it looks so horrible, it’s one thing to read the hot takes another to finally see the tragedy of all the grain removal and AI painting. What a shame. Thanks for doing this comparison. Save me some money.
Dear Ryan
« optimized by Park Road’s proprietary deep-learning algorithms-to create a new 4K Digital Intermediate. Photochemical grain has been greatly reduced, though not eliminated entirely, and it should be noted that this isn’t the usual Digital Noise Reduction with which people have long been familiar (a dreaded and blunt instrument). Unlike an image scrubbed with DNR, this process hasn’t removed all of the fine image detail. Not only does that detail remain, it too has been “enhanced” algorithmically ».
It still sucks.@@Mymoonization
@@gieferg Maybe for you and honestly it doesn't matter. The important thing is that you like it or you don't like it but you can't impose your opinion simply because you don't like this transfer.
@@giefergPfffff !!!!!!
@@Mymoonizationnone of that should have happened. Grab a film reel, physically clean it up, run it through a 4K digital scanner, and call it a day mate. The people just want the original film in high pixel density and full colour spectrum that HDR and Dolby Vision provide.
4K edition with its weird AI sharpening sucks big time. I will not touch it.
I'll stick with my old DVD from 1999. This looks straight up dreadful
There is always some wannabe know-it-all who thinks they're an A/V expert telling us "this transfer is bad, actually" but to me this is one of the best and most obvious upgrades in picture detail I've seen recently.
Aliens has always, imo, looked a little too soft. The roughness and graininess imo has never been successfully managed in disc. I'm no expert but I assumed the rough look of the film was always due to what film that shot it on and the processing of it, etc. It looked more aged compared to Alien. You look at Alien and you're still blown away it came out in 1979. It's timeless. But Aliens always looked firmly stuck in the mid 80s.
This 4K is a magnificent upgrade imo.
The fine detail sings, the contrast is finely tuned - giving the Adrian Biddle's lighting more room to shine and make an impression. The detail work REALLY makes the model work pop.
The film looks, finally, like it can stand next to the visual clarity of the original. Do I see some DNR? Maybe. Probably. But to me the film still looks to retain enough fine grain detail to stay faithful to the overall look of the film.
Or there's always someone with the eyes of a marsupial mole who can't discern serious issues with transfers like this, and think AI monstrosities are acceptable cause "it look sharp".
@@channelthechannel good thing that's not the case here.
Magnificent upgrade?
Are you blind?
It’s fake looking, AI filters and DNR.
The Blu-ray is much better and filmic.
Right?! I cant wait to add this magnificent 4K disc to my collection
@@LukeLovesRose I wish you were able to add some brain cells to your collection.
wow, I cannot wait to grab this in March :)))
Another great vid getting this tks 💞🍺
I guess I'm skipping this 4K and keep my BD. The 4K just seems so odd and artificial, everything is so over sharpened, over contrasted but lacks actual detail. It is passable for some shots but falls apart when people are present. The shots with Ripley and then Gorman on the hallway are outright ugly, and the soaking wet Ripley at the end feels like a bad attempt at an oil painting instead of a human.
I see a lot of edge enhancement. I'll pass, happy with my Blu-ray.
merci pour ce partage, il me tarde de le revoir en 4k
Bonjour Cédric. Merci pour votre commentaire. Toutefois, si j’ai un conseil à vous donner, faites votre pré commande le plus tôt possible car aux États-Unis c’est déjà en rupture de stock et cela a été reporté jusqu’au mois de juin voire juillet. En vous souhaitant de passer de très bonnes fêtes de fin d’année.
j'ai precommandé les bd 4k en france chez Fnac, le premier jour de precommande, merci pour le conseil et bonnes fetes@@Mymoonization
insane it makes look like a modern movie
Awful
A nice upgrade, subtle on some scenes but ultimately 4k showcasing more depth and density, great job! 👍will you be comparing the blu ray to 4k physical disc upon release?
Physical only Ethan !
@@Mymoonization you managed to get the disc so early? , wow you lucky thing enjoy, thanks for sharing 👍
@@ethanberry9846 Yes…..It's thanks to my distributor, but given the latest information, I think that some people may not have the chance to have it even on the day of its release because it has been postponed to June or July. I hope I’m wrong !!
@@Mymoonization I don't know, all I Know is that I've pre ordered it along with True Lies and it was said to be released in March. Iam a little perplexed to why The Abyss 4k has been snubbed for the UK release, having to now resort to import it from the states.
@@ethanberry9846 The UK release of The Abyss has been cancelled due to a scene involving animal cruelty that did not pass the UK distribution board. Disney reportedly were happy to cut the live rat being forced to breathe underwater scene but Lightstorm weren't.