I spent weeks on the wall honing in on this technique. I then took it to the court by myself, dropping a ball and focusing on the technique. I ingrained the muscle and mental memory for it, then applied it in my first game with friends. I made some beautiful powerful returns and the power, spin and arch of the ball travel was impressive. At one point I got super aggressive and thought the ball was going to the fence for sure, but it took that beautiful dive to the ground and stood in play. Very satisfied with the results. Thanks for the breakdown and great method of instruction you deliver.
Would you guys consider making a video that's just you two playing a practice match with a nice court level camera? Would love to just watch you guys hit for an extended period of time.
I have struggle with my forehand all my life, it is simply a wild card. I have a one handed backhand of a 5.0 and a forehand of a 2.5. I have been watching UA-cam videos trying to find a fix and I think your videos are the very best I've found. The season is over now in Michigan but I will be using your videos to try fix my forehand next season. I just bought a ball machine and will use it to practice and record myself until I achieve a forehand similar to yours.
Nobody explain how to strike a tennis ball like you guys, you are by far the best and on top of that you talk the talk and walk the walk. Love you guys!
Very tactful and passionate teacher. You really understand the common problem of junior and club players. We need people like you. Your video really helps. Thank you
This is by far the best explanation and breakdown of the motions I have seen (feels like I‘ve seen hundreds of videos). You made me aware of two crucial errors I made but didn‘t know how to detect and solve them (including several coaches). Thank you so much.
Step 1 the backswing: such a good explanation from you ! Strings at 3 o’clock and the rest of the swing fell into place with a loose grip. THANKS . It puts the wrist in supination and then pronation automatically
Awesome stuff! You're an amazing teacher! We're lucky to have you. If I lived anywhere near you I'd be paying with pleasure to have you as my coach/teacher.
Great video. I watched this and took it to training yesterday - having just received a new racquet. What a revelation, Snap speed, tons of top spin and consistency. As ever one of the best tennis instructors on UA-cam
Very likely the best video I have seen on how to generate topspin while destroying the myths surrounding the racquet lag and wind-shield wiper. Just awesome content!
Guys, thank you for you positive energy, smiles, and, most important, for the great training content! It is logical and clear and it makes complex tennis motions absolutely understandable. By following your advices and drills I was able to improve my game significantly and even teach my friend from zero to a reasonably good forehand. Many thanks. Will recommend you to everyone I know 😁
Teacher thank you very much for the great video. I have a lot of difficulties of modifying my forehand! I live in Brazil and my city has few teachers. Therefore, I have used your videos to instruct me.
You are, by far, my faorite tennis channel. Not only your tennis level is excellent, but - this is very, very rare imo - you are able to explain how you do it, your path to your final technique, etc. Thank you =)
Well just signed up!! Got an opportunity to see the brothers in person. The videos are great, but in person is another level!!! Starting a new journey now and looking forward to another level of play.
Hello coach , I tried your training method on myself and it works well my forehand has improved a lot .thank you very much for your training tips. I have a good level of tennis now thank to you
Another great video! Let me remind you that you have promised a long time ago to make a video which explains how does Federer switch his grip from continental to eastern while preparing for the forehand.😀
He just pivots the racket with his non-hitting hand (left hand), as he begins to bring the racket back. He postpones squeezing the racket grip with his right (hitting) hand, (and thereby also waits to separate his hands from the racket) until he has the grip pivoted the exact amount he wishes (which turns out to be an eastern grip). It’s the exact same story with his switch to his backhand grip (which is basically an eastern backhand grip, but for a slight diagonal shift, slightly separating his index finger from the other fingers. Were he to stand holding the racket in a strict Eastern backhand grip, with his hitting hand’s base knuckles all on bevel 3, blocked together, as if he’s holding a lantern with his arm fully extended, directly out in front of him, the racket face would be at an exactly 90° angle sticking out to the left. But with his modified eastern grip, it adjusts the angle that his right arm and the racket make another 30 to 40 degrees AWAY from his body. It makes an obtuse angle. This allows for better whip into the ball, which means more power and more spin. But you didn’t ask about his backhand, I’m just remembering, so I have no idea why I’m still talking about this. So, anyway, just know that he’s not keeping his left hand on the racket when he brings it back cuz he thinks it looks good, that hand is entirely in charge of getting the racket to the proper grip position! Who’da thunk it??
@@microphoner1 Thanks for elaborating on that. One can also notice how he opens his fingers to make more space between his index and the rest of the fingers.
I recently discovered these motions by accident after many years of trial and error. Thanks for putting this together to help countless current and future players elevate their game. On to the next skill gap. :D
Best video so far on youtube. Like your breakdown on the misconception of Low to High which causes a lot of problem / makes it difficult to change when it becomes a muscle memory.
Awesome video, again! Thank you! My pet peeve is the coach who keeps telling us everything we know is a myth and that tennis is intuitive. Nothing in tennis is intuitive. It’s learned behaviour built up by incremental steps. If tennis were intuitive we wouldn’t need any coaches like you to show us how it’s done. A kick is just a kick and a punch is just a punch AFTER you’ve mastered them! 😭
hi, can you also talk about the movement of bicep curl in the forehand? I feel this movement is very useful when hitting sharp angles to move the ball drop short. I never found any video talking about this movement. is it a legitimate technique for forehand?
Thanks for the video. The way I understand it is that the racket travels from a foot below your contact point during the forward swing. This creates the topspin and then after contact, the wiper finish completes the swing. The wiper does not contribute to the topspin of the ball but is a consequence of the driving inertia from the forward stroke. I like your explanation of the flip. It took me about of month of tweaking my technique till I got the flip right, and then another month to get the contact point right producing a reliable shot. I will say that the hip turn is critical to getting power on the stroke. The looseness of the wrist is critical in maximizing that transfer of rotational hip energy to the ball. You really don't use much arm muscle and it's all in the legs. I will say that the modern ATP forehand requires talent to get reliable. I don't believe that the average player can implement this because there are a lot ways this stroke can go wrong. Every player should try it but if they fail, they shouldn't feel that bad. It's based on DNA. They should then go back to improving their old strokes.
Hey Wally, thanks for watching and for your thoughtful analysis! I love your points about the loose wrist, power coming from the hip, keeping the hitting arm relaxed, and working on the contact point to create consistency. Although some players may not be able to fully implement the ATP forehand technique, fundamentals like the contact point and using the lower body to create the bulk of power are critical for virtually all players, at least to avoid injury. I'm glad you found our explanation of the flip helpful. I'd like to make one note on the windshield wiper motion: I agree that the follow-through itself is a bi-product of the momentum players create during their acceleration. But it also indicates what's happened through contact. For example, one a flatter shot, players like Federer or Djokovic will often finish with the racquet higher. For more topspin, the racquet head can rotate over more (creating a larger "windshield wiper" shape). So 1 of the elements players are using to vary topspin vs pace is the speed and amount of this internal shoulder rotation. To take this full circle, the biomechanical advantage that the racquet flip gives you during the acceleration is the stretch-shorten cycle of the hitting shoulder. But this enhancement in the muscles is only activated if there is an active "counter-movement" in the opposing muscles. Basically, although the follow through itself is a bi-product of the racquet's momentum, players are actively internally rotating their hitting arm right before contact and through the extension for spin. Thanks again for your excellent points. I hope that others can learn not just from the videos, but from the dialogue we can have afterward 🙂 Cheers! Daytri
Just too good! Tomorrow I'm gonna implement it on the ground. Then see your video all over again. By then hopefully, I'll have incorporated it in my drills. Thanks a ton.
Another great video guys. Your approach with the science behind it really helps me “get it.” Tried the drills a few hours ago and already improving. Thanks.
I am glad you didn't recommend Nadal like forehand which I see a lot of players are copying. I think that forehand is something that can be used if you are scrambling but not as an offensive shot.
Great instruction .Just watching you know this is the exactly correct pathway towards a heavy quality forhand , sort of slapping the ball ( pulling across body) yet at contact rapidly rolling the strings over the top of the ball for top spin. Unfortunately it won’t be easy to break the habit of trying to brush up low to high.
Really love the video quality and content that was produce each time ! :D Do you have any videos on how to hit a FLAT single handed backhand to destroy opponent?
Thanks for the video. I have been trying to change from the “low to high” to the modern forehand. However my wrist seems to be hurting a little so not sure if I am doing it wrong.
If it hurts you’re doing it wrong. Stop. The wrist is fragile. Need an on-site coach to help you. The wrist must not be completely relaxed or you risk hyperextension. Do not actively ulnar nor radially deviate. A minimal amount of passive is ok but must be careful.
For others like me... what he talks about at 8:35 is crucial for injury prevention. Never intentionally rotate your write. Your wrist movement should only be induced from lagging and whipping of the racquet!
Hi Yakziv! Yes, there are slight nuances that will change depending on your grip, whether you have a bent/straight arm, and what shot you're trying to hit. But the basic fundamentals of making contact in front of your body and using internal rotation from the hitting shoulder stay constant. We'll continue to cover the nuances within tennis through future videos. Thanks for watching!
@@ErikOstermueller Do you like playing with western or will you switch to eastern eventually? Since I'm just an amateur noob, I will stick to western grip.
I have a question: is it correct to say that the forehand swing is in fact a semicircular movement where the initial part up to contact with the ball is linear and immediately before the windshield wiper movement begins?
The swing path you are illustrating appears to be the "outside in" approach. For the sake of argument, how does this approach compare to the "inside in" swing path to generate massive topspin and pace?
I spent weeks on the wall honing in on this technique. I then took it to the court by myself, dropping a ball and focusing on the technique. I ingrained the muscle and mental memory for it, then applied it in my first game with friends. I made some beautiful powerful returns and the power, spin and arch of the ball travel was impressive. At one point I got super aggressive and thought the ball was going to the fence for sure, but it took that beautiful dive to the ground and stood in play. Very satisfied with the results. Thanks for the breakdown and great method of instruction you deliver.
Would you guys consider making a video that's just you two playing a practice match with a nice court level camera? Would love to just watch you guys hit for an extended period of time.
💯💯
Is that a yes? 🙂
I wanna see you guys go at it too 😁
Would want to see this!
Try this one. ua-cam.com/video/Pa-c4rlHuUo/v-deo.html
I have struggle with my forehand all my life, it is simply a wild card. I have a one handed backhand of a 5.0 and a forehand of a 2.5. I have been watching UA-cam videos trying to find a fix and I think your videos are the very best I've found. The season is over now in Michigan but I will be using your videos to try fix my forehand next season. I just bought a ball machine and will use it to practice and record myself until I achieve a forehand similar to yours.
Nobody explain how to strike a tennis ball like you guys, you are by far the best and on top of that you talk the talk and walk the walk. Love you guys!
Thanks so much Raudel!
This lesson (more than a simple video) has all that been lacking in my tennis. Thanks from Brazil, u guys are really great.
Very tactful and passionate teacher. You really understand the common problem of junior and club players. We need people like you. Your video really helps. Thank you
This is by far the best explanation and breakdown of the motions I have seen (feels like I‘ve seen hundreds of videos). You made me aware of two crucial errors I made but didn‘t know how to detect and solve them (including several coaches). Thank you so much.
Step 1 the backswing: such a good explanation from you ! Strings at 3 o’clock and the rest of the swing fell into place with a loose grip. THANKS . It puts the wrist in supination and then pronation automatically
Awesome stuff! You're an amazing teacher! We're lucky to have you. If I lived anywhere near you I'd be paying with pleasure to have you as my coach/teacher.
Same here, same here.
Great video. I watched this and took it to training yesterday - having just received a new racquet. What a revelation, Snap speed, tons of top spin and consistency. As ever one of the best tennis instructors on UA-cam
Very likely the best video I have seen on how to generate topspin while destroying the myths surrounding the racquet lag and wind-shield wiper. Just awesome content!
Excellent breakdown of the modern forehand. You're a great teacher.
Some of the best information on swing fundamentals, as usual.
Guys, thank you for you positive energy, smiles, and, most important, for the great training content! It is logical and clear and it makes complex tennis motions absolutely understandable.
By following your advices and drills I was able to improve my game significantly and even teach my friend from zero to a reasonably good forehand.
Many thanks. Will recommend you to everyone I know 😁
Teacher thank you very much for the great video.
I have a lot of difficulties of modifying my forehand!
I live in Brazil and my city has few teachers.
Therefore, I have used your videos to instruct me.
Amazing explanation of a highly complex movement that I have struggled with for years !
You are, by far, my faorite tennis channel. Not only your tennis level is excellent, but - this is very, very rare imo - you are able to explain how you do it, your path to your final technique, etc.
Thank you =)
Well just signed up!! Got an opportunity to see the brothers in person. The videos are great, but in person is another level!!! Starting a new journey now and looking forward to another level of play.
Hello coach , I tried your training method on myself and it works well my forehand has improved a lot .thank you very much for your training tips. I have a good level of tennis now thank to you
You make it sound so easy by breaking it into doable steps...can't wait to try it out...Awesome video!
Another great video!
Let me remind you that you have promised a long time ago to make a video which explains how does Federer switch his grip from continental to eastern while preparing for the forehand.😀
Yo I want to see this as well!!
He just pivots the racket with his non-hitting hand (left hand), as he begins to bring the racket back. He postpones squeezing the racket grip with his right (hitting) hand, (and thereby also waits to separate his hands from the racket) until he has the grip pivoted the exact amount he wishes (which turns out to be an eastern grip). It’s the exact same story with his switch to his backhand grip (which is basically an eastern backhand grip, but for a slight diagonal shift, slightly separating his index finger from the other fingers. Were he to stand holding the racket in a strict Eastern backhand grip, with his hitting hand’s base knuckles all on bevel 3, blocked together, as if he’s holding a lantern with his arm fully extended, directly out in front of him, the racket face would be at an exactly 90° angle sticking out to the left. But with his modified eastern grip, it adjusts the angle that his right arm and the racket make another 30 to 40 degrees AWAY from his body. It makes an obtuse angle.
This allows for better whip into the ball, which means more power and more spin. But you didn’t ask about his backhand, I’m just remembering, so I have no idea why I’m still talking about this.
So, anyway, just know that he’s not keeping his left hand on the racket when he brings it back cuz he thinks it looks good, that hand is entirely in charge of getting the racket to the proper grip position! Who’da thunk it??
@@microphoner1 Thanks for elaborating on that. One can also notice how he opens his fingers to make more space between his index and the rest of the fingers.
I recently discovered these motions by accident after many years of trial and error. Thanks for putting this together to help countless current and future players elevate their game. On to the next skill gap. :D
You two have the best tennis videos on the web. Plus the obvious joy you get from smashing balls is infectious
Best video so far on youtube. Like your breakdown on the misconception of Low to High which causes a lot of problem / makes it difficult to change when it becomes a muscle memory.
Awesome lesson. Thanks a lot for sharing! I'm going to practice it tomorrow in my recreational weekly game with a friend.
Awesome video, again! Thank you! My pet peeve is the coach who keeps telling us everything we know is a myth and that tennis is intuitive. Nothing in tennis is intuitive. It’s learned behaviour built up by incremental steps. If tennis were intuitive we wouldn’t need any coaches like you to show us how it’s done. A kick is just a kick and a punch is just a punch AFTER you’ve mastered them! 😭
Hi, love your video's and how it incorporates science and theory into the movement. would love to see more video's on 2hbh and shot timing
Thanks for the video suggestion Flixt!
The loose racket at tip you give is amazing. Totally freed my forehand up. Thanks guys!
The way you explain things makes so much sense, excellent instructing/teaching methodology and skills.
This is by far the best forehand tips I have got so far on UA-cam! Great job!
provide easy-to-understand information And it's the most natural body language. I love it.
hi, can you also talk about the movement of bicep curl in the forehand? I feel this movement is very useful when hitting sharp angles to move the ball drop short. I never found any video talking about this movement. is it a legitimate technique for forehand?
I have almost this whole motion naturally but was trying to train it out of myself because of other videos. Good thing I saw this.
Thanks for the video. The way I understand it is that the racket travels from a foot below your contact point during the forward swing. This creates the topspin and then after contact, the wiper finish completes the swing. The wiper does not contribute to the topspin of the ball but is a consequence of the driving inertia from the forward stroke. I like your explanation of the flip. It took me about of month of tweaking my technique till I got the flip right, and then another month to get the contact point right producing a reliable shot. I will say that the hip turn is critical to getting power on the stroke. The looseness of the wrist is critical in maximizing that transfer of rotational hip energy to the ball. You really don't use much arm muscle and it's all in the legs. I will say that the modern ATP forehand requires talent to get reliable. I don't believe that the average player can implement this because there are a lot ways this stroke can go wrong. Every player should try it but if they fail, they shouldn't feel that bad. It's based on DNA. They should then go back to improving their old strokes.
Haha.. so you are saying your DNA is better???😆😆😆
Hey Wally, thanks for watching and for your thoughtful analysis! I love your points about the loose wrist, power coming from the hip, keeping the hitting arm relaxed, and working on the contact point to create consistency.
Although some players may not be able to fully implement the ATP forehand technique, fundamentals like the contact point and using the lower body to create the bulk of power are critical for virtually all players, at least to avoid injury. I'm glad you found our explanation of the flip helpful. I'd like to make one note on the windshield wiper motion:
I agree that the follow-through itself is a bi-product of the momentum players create during their acceleration. But it also indicates what's happened through contact. For example, one a flatter shot, players like Federer or Djokovic will often finish with the racquet higher. For more topspin, the racquet head can rotate over more (creating a larger "windshield wiper" shape). So 1 of the elements players are using to vary topspin vs pace is the speed and amount of this internal shoulder rotation.
To take this full circle, the biomechanical advantage that the racquet flip gives you during the acceleration is the stretch-shorten cycle of the hitting shoulder. But this enhancement in the muscles is only activated if there is an active "counter-movement" in the opposing muscles. Basically, although the follow through itself is a bi-product of the racquet's momentum, players are actively internally rotating their hitting arm right before contact and through the extension for spin.
Thanks again for your excellent points. I hope that others can learn not just from the videos, but from the dialogue we can have afterward 🙂
Cheers!
Daytri
Another great video .small suggestion.avoid mixing up with left & right as two of you giving demos having different playing / nonplaying hand.
Brilliant explanation. Thanks.
Just too good! Tomorrow I'm gonna implement it on the ground. Then see your video all over again. By then hopefully, I'll have incorporated it in my drills. Thanks a ton.
U guys just are the best tennis channel ever on yt
Another great video guys. Your approach with the science behind it really helps me “get it.”
Tried the drills a few hours ago and already improving. Thanks.
absolutely thee best breakdown I have Ever seen. Wow.
Best tennis instruction videos on YT by far. Keep it up!
Super well explained - scientific and yet simple!
Great explanation. As a physician you really understand the biomechanics well👌👍
DEAR SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM THE CORE OF MY HEART👍👍👍👍
A more detailed video on the next gen forehand would be awesome guys!
I love you explanations. I shared your videos with Essential Tennis and they were impressed too.
YOur best lesson to date for my. thank you.
Very good, I learned many things for perfect foreand.
Great video guys!
Hey guys! Thanks for watching - I'm glad you liked it!
You guys produce fantastic instructional video. Keep up the great work and hope you guys are having fun playing and teaching tennis!
Best tennis channel by far
I am glad you didn't recommend Nadal like forehand which I see a lot of players are copying. I think that forehand is something that can be used if you are scrambling but not as an offensive shot.
Excellent , well explained info. I’ve taken a lot from your instructions
Great instruction .Just watching you know this is the exactly correct pathway towards a heavy quality forhand , sort of slapping the ball ( pulling across body) yet at contact rapidly rolling the strings over the top of the ball for top spin. Unfortunately it won’t be easy to break the habit of trying to brush up low to high.
great content!! could you consider making a video specifically about the looseness of the wrist on the FH?
Such fresh technical information, thank you, loving your lessons!
Love the detailed explanation!
Next gen forehand video would be amazing
Amazing video, thanks very much. Can't wait to try tomorow!
Really love the video quality and content that was produce each time ! :D Do you have any videos on how to hit a FLAT single handed backhand to destroy opponent?
Amazing video. The mistakes pointed out here are true and seems like these are exactly the faults I’m doing
Thanks for the video. I have been trying to change from the “low to high” to the modern forehand. However my wrist seems to be hurting a little so not sure if I am doing it wrong.
If it hurts you’re doing it wrong. Stop. The wrist is fragile. Need an on-site coach to help you. The wrist must not be completely relaxed or you risk hyperextension. Do not actively ulnar nor radially deviate. A minimal amount of passive is ok but must be careful.
@@Johnstage thanks for your reply. It’s an art to get it right and I guess everyone’s body is different
@@mybluesky123 if you watch the slow motion, Federer and Nadal wrist are not actively moving prior and during contact.
Amazing video as always !!!!!
great video! will try on court tomorrow:)
Nice clear explanation.
More on Next Gen please. Great insights. Keep it up!
For others like me... what he talks about at 8:35 is crucial for injury prevention. Never intentionally rotate your write. Your wrist movement should only be induced from lagging and whipping of the racquet!
The new logo and title card is looking 🔥🔥🔥
Amazing Vídeo!!!! Saudações brasileiras!! 🇧🇷
Nice video. Love the drills!!
Perfect. Thank you!
This channel is great, I love it. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Would you make a tutorial on how to slide on court specifically,forward and sidewards (hard court)
Great video thanks for what yall do!
Great instruction... thanks!
That was very well done, clear, and demystified some of the BS surrounding topspin and forehands.
Exelente explicacion !!!!!
U explain really well 👍👍👍
Fantastic!!! Thank you!
yall goated for this
What are you thoughts about the next gen forehand vs the modern forehand?
Very informative. May I know your racket specs ? Weight ? head size ? And string tensions ?
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Great video thank you!!!!
Great video 🎉🎉🎉 again
i would definitely like a video on next gen forehands
Use full video thanks sir
Thank you .
Great! Thank you!
Simply the best 🎾
Doesn't the type of grip also determine what type of swing path you will use to increase top spin???
Hi Yakziv! Yes, there are slight nuances that will change depending on your grip, whether you have a bent/straight arm, and what shot you're trying to hit. But the basic fundamentals of making contact in front of your body and using internal rotation from the hitting shoulder stay constant. We'll continue to cover the nuances within tennis through future videos. Thanks for watching!
@@RacquetFlex Thank you for replying. I play with a full western grip, so my hand is in a little different position- so that's why I was asking.
@@yakzivz1104 I’ve got a full western also and this video has inspired me to try a little less wrist and more shoulder to help avoid wrist stress/pain
@@ErikOstermueller Do you like playing with western or will you switch to eastern eventually? Since I'm just an amateur noob, I will stick to western grip.
I have a question: is it correct to say that the forehand swing is in fact a semicircular movement where the initial part up to contact with the ball is linear and immediately before the windshield wiper movement begins?
What string tension do you guys use on the Blade?
I use around 50-52 while Daytri uses 48 on his pro staff 👍
What grip did you use? Will it work with a western grip?
The swing path you are illustrating appears to be the "outside in" approach. For the sake of argument, how does this approach compare to the "inside in" swing path to generate massive topspin and pace?
What a great drill~~~!!!!👍👍
Thanks
Excellent 🎾
Thank you!!
Very nice share thanks
Where are you located for in person instruction?
You guys are awesome
I really love how you guys cut up during the making of these videos. Keep it up. Go ahead, I dare you.