Sorry Ginny, but if you read the spec sheets you would see that the car is capable of 381 mile range if fitted with the 18" wheels. Your test car has 20" wheels that reduces the range to 328 miles, as mentioned by others who drove the exact same car.
According to other reviews I've seen, in the UK only the 20" tyres are offered. The more relevant point is that aerodynamics are only going to help at higher speeds. At 30-50mph like this review largely appeared to be, you should surely expect similar efficiency to the Ioniq5. It's the same drivetrain.
@@russellmoore1533 Agreed, every range test indicates this, and I suspect the reason is that larger wheel diameters are matched to lower profile tyres (to give the same overall diameter) but that those tyres are also wider increasing contact patch area and therefore rolling resistance.
Huge huge Tesla fan here and I'm SO HAPPY to see Hyundai making great electric cars, to all automakers-- more please and may you all enjoy your future EV regardless of brand!!!;)
It's definitely a sedan. It has 4 doors and a boot. End of. Looks really quite good from the side and the back, but the front is a bit of a let down. Really like the interior, though. Seems really well thought out and the light colors will make it seem bigger than it is on the inside. I've been a fan of the Ioniq 5 since it came out. If I had to choose between the two, I'd still probably go for the 5 versus the 6, but it's good the 6 is out there for people who want something a little different.
I like how Hyundai have created 3 different looking cars (GV60, Ionic 5 and Ionic 6) and are not really following convention giving buyers choice when they really did not have to.
I'm not a fan of the droopy rear end styling, but the interior is nice. Not sure this is comparable to Tesla Model 3 after their price cuts and their ability to mass produce vehicles. Hyundai/Kia make great EV's, but the wait time to get them, dealer markups and the fact that they do not get the EV tax credits in the US makes them non-competitive. Also you didn't show if this has a frunk.
@@gap9992 Correct! It was meant to spark companies to create jobs for Americans by building and developing their products locally rather than outsourcing to other countries. EVs must be built in NA to qualify.
Really love the exterior design and the drag coefficient is quite an achievement. It's at the top of my shortlist for next EV this summer and I'm just waiting to get to see it in the metal and have a test drive. Can't wait!
I'd imagine the efficiency really comes with motorway speeds, since aerodynamic gains rise exponentially with speed... that combined with the epic 800V charging make it a strong choice for the niche of drivers who want to do regular long distances on routes with top quality chargers & little need for luggage (and who don't want a Tesla, for whatever reason). For families or urban commuters the shape and ridiculous boot probaby make this an instant 'nope', but there's probably still a (small) place for it.
@@giovannidepetris6335 Because you're sacrificing the practicality of a more practical shape (bigger boot/trunk, hatchback, more space or compact design, etc) for the range increase supposedly provided by the aerodynamic shape. But if there urban driver is rarely if ever going to get that range benefit, there are likely better options for them.
Long time Hyundai customer here. Was considering moving from my 2018 Elantra to a Hyundai EV, but my local dealer added on $5.1k of ‘extra fees’ (that’s literally what they called them in the quote…’Misc fees’, ‘non taxable fees’, ‘ Other charges’ and would not budge. By comparison, the local Tesla dealer’s fees are less than $2.1k. To get an Ioniq 6 that was comparable in features to an RWD Tesla Model 3 was $7k more before these extra fees…add those in and it would have been $10k more for the comparable Ioniq 6. As well, the same Hyundai dealer offered me $2,900 LESS than Tesla did for my trade in - seems they really understand the value of their own vehicles lol. It was a no-brainer. Hyundai has lost my business in large part due to this specific dealer, and I’ll be taking my business to Tesla.
2.8Kw/Mile sounds about right in the winter doing short stop-start driving. I have a 2019 Nissan leaf 2 Tekna with a 40kW non-temperature controlled battery still at 95% SOH. In the summer doing the school run and trips to the shops it will get about 4.5kW/mile, on longer motorways runs at about 65mph which drops to 3.5kW/mile. This was the first winter with leaf, and I was shocked to see it gradually drop over the months as it got colder to 2.3kW/mile in the middle of Jan. I thought that most of that was down to the battery not performing well but it's not that, it's the heater and in this leaf the heat pump. In the summer, I had no AC running, and didn't need it but in the colder months, its on all the time, but doing short stop get out and start-again trips means that the much heavier use (4kW) resistive heater, which heats up very quickly comes on for much more of the journey time and hence the 2.3kW/mile. On longer runs in winter, when the resistive heater switches over to the heat pump, it goes up to about 3.8kW/mile. So long story short, in the winter, doing short slow runs all the current electric cars drop well down in efficiency terms because the heaters suck up a lot of power and are on for most of the time unless you do longer trips and have a heat pump. I was thinking it was just the leaf and the lack of battery management but the more reviews like this i see the more I'm realising that the leaf is quite good and it's the rest that aren't that much better in efficiency.
I absolutely love the looks - Tatra 87 for the 21st century! So happy that streamlining is "sexy" again - not a decade too early. The lower the Cw, the better the looks.
I love everything about it. I will still reserve final judgement until I see one in person and has had a test drive. But finally, we have an EV that makes sense. Not sure how long the wait is but couldn't wait to put a deposit down for it.
I realize a review has to discuss practicality, but in almost every situation where a buyer needs a practical EV they'd pick the 5 over the 6. The 6 is aimed squarely at folks like me.. I'm not hauling any children to soccer practice, if I need something at Home Depot I've got a truck. I want a vibrant driving experience, a gorgeous look, and as much EV range and performance as I can get. The Ioniq 6 is miles/kilometers ahead of everyone in this price range.
I don’t understand why this channel consistently throws up opinions that don’t correlate with the rest of the journo world? All of the other reviews have shown good efficiency. You guys are always dropping the ball 🫠
Nice review. I thought you would have been able to reset the efficiency so that it was based on your driving rather than the cumulative of the community of test drivers(?).
Most reviewers are too lazy or ignorant to find how to do it in the menu. I hope that's not the case with Ginny though(as I love her to bits); I'm sure she has a good reason!
The E-GMP plattform is very efficient in any of the cars. I drive the Kia EV6 AWD on Swiss highways and many curvy mountain roads. On 9‘000 km the car consumed just 16,8 kWh per 100 km. A similar EQE was at 20,4 kWh. So the Ioniq 6 can be driven even below WLTP. The trick most testers do not want to try is ECO mode and a soft power pedal as well as foresight.
Hyundai have produced something here which is original and that's what the world needs. For too long we have been given breeze blocks on wheels. Tesla is not the force it was although their cars are still stylish & fast. Hyundai/ Kia with their warranties are formidable opponents.
Got 4miles per kWh out of my mg 5 today. -2 to 2 degrees. Heater on 21. 160 mile trip. Not sure I’d be forking out the extra 15 grand for something not as good.
Some points to consider that are not made clear... 1) It's a pre-production car! 2) 20" wheels 3) It's clearly freezing temperatures 4) Is ECO mode and Level 3 Regen being used? (WLTP figures are based on those parameters) 5) Was the car preconditioned prior to setting off? (Again, another factor that influences battery management and achieving the higher miles per KW) All of the E-GMP products are heavy and in my experience nowhere near as efficient as the outgoing models like the original IONIQ Electric 38.3kWh or the KONA 64kWh - which is ironic considering they were not built as standalone BEV platforms. I have a lot of experience with recent Hyundai product and I can tell you that my Model 3 Long Range (with 20s & Acceleration Boost 395hp) has driven a daily commute of 65 miles each way during the same sub-zero conditions on the M25 at speeds of 65mph with the HVAC on, consistently returning 4 miles per KW. I'm a big fan of the IONIQ 5 and I like the 6, but one thing is for sure, they don't come close to real-world returns. Looking at a dashboard display with an average efficency readout is utterly pointless unless you can guarantee the whole trip distance has been completed - the clue is in the title - 'average'.... and an average of a short test drive at that!
@@Brotherbear75 People are tired of hearing you whine about Musk. Musk, just like you, is entitled to opinions. Tesla makes the best EVs in the World hard stop. Move on, nobody cares about your "outrage" façade
We need to know the cold range, since parts of the UK can be cold a 1/4 to 1/3 of the year. Real World, is not all lovely warm days and nights, or an empty car other than a driver, near empty boot, commercial travellers (reps) as we used to call them not paying for their own charging.
To answer the question posed, "Yes" I do like the design style. It fits well as a commuting car with a flare of elegance and style. For sure, a strong competitor to the Tesla Model 3. Thank you for the video e-car content. I enjoyed watching.
A strong competition?!🤦♀️ In what world. Doesn't qualify for EV credits in the states and has 14 months wait time. It is 5000$ more in Europe and again, 14 months wait time. Has lower effeciency and Tesla produces 1 Million Model 3s whereas Hyundai does 50,000 a year....This will not sell well.
After 1 year and 51,000 km in my 2022 Model 3 rwd my average consumption is 154Wh/km. I live in Canada and drive aggressively. The real problem with the Ionic 6 is that it's not truly available. It's vaporware. Then there's the lack of charging infrastructure. The scene where 6'5" Mike is slouching in his seat is hilarious. Why does the media feel they have to hide the truth.
I'm not convinced, but it might grow on me. It almost looks like the front, middle and back have been designed by three different teams who never talked to each other.
I’m gutted it doesn’t look as stylish as the Prophecy show car due to the practicalities of everyday life, but it looks way more stylish than my super efficient Ioniq 38kWh
Low aero drag really only comes into full effect at higher speeds. Driving around UK B roads in winter weight is probably a bigger efficiency factor and the 6 is no doubt over 2 tonnes.
Now watched five reviews of this same poor Car. It gets about😂. That passenger door mirror may have a bad scratch just saying 😉 Well done Hyundai doing it their own way. Be interesting about sales of EV’s now Tesla has lower the price so much. The boot opening is acceptable to me as I’ve accepted I’d be ok with the Model 3 boot. Hyundai just knocking it out the park 👏👏👏 I may not ever buy one but I appreciate what they are doing. You obviously tested this after a few journalists have launched it. It actually gets real world 270 miles (winter).
I think that the shape is very attractive and not like much else available in the Ev range of vehicles. The only thing I would like is something similar but shorter, and 10k cheaper now that would be a very, very attractive car.
My Ioniq is exactly what an tlectric car should be like! It is a shame, Hyundai has not yet offered an upgreated version of this very efficient an beautiful car. Being a hatchbackk it is also bery Po ractical!
Hello Ginny great review i love this car and yes my first thoughts were the 4 door 911 Porsche or the 989 . I think Hyundai is on a winner with this car i was surprised with your range even in the winter , I live now on Vancouver Island and I drive a Genesis GV60 our weather is much the same as the UK at this time of the year when i am charged to 80% i have 250 mile range same battery as the Ioniq 6 . The Ioniq 6 is much lighter and much more streamline I am sure we will see a large increase in range thanks again look forward to more updates.
Cancel the Model 3 order and go for a Model Y. More practical all-round car. As much as I love the look of the Ioniq 6.... Tesla's new prices and new leasing deals mean they are better value for money.
Thanks for the test. I guess the 6 will meet the efficiency requirements on long distance runs with continuous speed. I am of good hope that its aerodynamics concept will be successful… 28 kWh seems to be more or less a result of several driving teams under testing conditions at low temperatures, btw… 28 it‘s more consumption than that of an Ioniq5
I'm curious to see how this does against the updated model 3 highland, nio et5, byd seal, xpeng p5 and other's in the expanding 4dr mid size ev sedan market. I say not for me with the exterior styling to saab/merkur looking, but way to go team Hyundai. And bring in the i5n please. 👍🏻
Another good report thanks. The car has a Mercedes coupe esque look about it. The only way to know efficency properly is to ignore the guages. Charge to 100% drive a few hundred km then recharge to 100% and do the maths. When you do you will undoubtedly see a difference to the guage. This is even more important on ICE cars and it amazes me when 'reporters' don't bother to do it properly before quoting the 'as tested' figure.
The looks are not for me. I would say ugly from the side profile but I know others will disagree. I have to say that your review was one of your best it had good structure and covered all the important points. Well done Ginny.
I really cannot say I like the look of this car. Has it got a frunk? Testing in England in the cold? That seems to be perfectly adequate. My Model 3 2021, Standard range Plus, over 5000 km, from Sep 2022 to Today, in full Standard and Sport mode is at an average of 155Wh/km. I use all heating, seats and steering wheel, I use full autopilot whenever possible. I'd love to see a proper comparison between the two cars, so both on the same road in the same conditions.
It would be great if you guys did a UK video for us Motability customers - a view of what was available and the best of those along with the costs. There is a really poor choice just now - I have a Soul EVFE just now, I dont htink I'll be able to get anything close to that spec come next december when I have to replace it.
That is the issue. Not much Low or nil advance payment EV's just now on this quarters Motability. But we will see as supply increases. I am due to repace my Corsa Electric in August so it is the next 2 quarters i am watching. But i will probably get the lease extended. Like the car, hate the 135 mile range. Needed new discs last year, needs new drop links now. There will be a bit bigger battery coming and the Astra Harch or Estate EV. Real World will still not be 200 miles for a 1/3 of the year. Oop north, when doing more than 40 mph in a carwith people and stuff in it.
@@PassportToPimlico not for me. Black shiny plastic, rear wiper / spoiler and snow / ice issues. Freezing washer / nozzles, eco tyres needing all seasons fitted. Real world needs easy winter snow clearing,. Disabled drivers, not just disabled passengers.
I think the trunk (boot) is a deal breaker for me. If there was a hatch instead of a small trunk opening it would work for my needs. It seems like they could have done that, but perhaps there is some engineering reason. I'm not sold on the looks but if the car is really efficient because of it, that would bring it a beauty for me that would tip the scales if it weren't for the bad boot. The EPA says 316 with the AWD so that's a lot better than the 266 for the AWD Ioniq 5. Hmmm, but I'd still buy the Ioniq 5 over the 6 as I love the way it looks and the range is still good.
380 miles minus 40% due to cold and higher speed than the testing average works out to about 240 miles... So that seems just about right to what you were getting.
where do you get -40% from? My Hyundai Ioniq goes from c204 in summer to c165 miles in winter which is much closer to a 20% reduction. granted, I drive in Eco mode because the efficiency is great but 40% is a huge drop
@@shaangrewal9054 You're comparing your range babying the car in the summer and winter. They are comparing the EPA rated range vs their driving style as well as cold. Since they are doing driving tests and the EPA range is based on specific speeds and combined city/highway that their own driving would be much higher speeds losing about another 20% off of the EPA. Skoda in the EU have a really great sales page that you can pick their EVs and tell it how many passengers are in it, what mode you drive in, and if you are in the city or highway and if you keep everything the same the highway range is about 25% less than the city range due to speed losses and near zero regeneration chances. I just guessed at the 20% here since they would have been doing things like launches and handling tests which are far from babying the car.
@@Snerdles That's on me, I read your comment initially as if you were saying the cold alone was reducing 40% and was proper confused. I agree that most journalists are testing for launching speeds and not driving it as the everyday user would, so I'm also expecting the efficiency rate that Ginny saw to be depressed because of that. Regardless, the 6 looks like an interesting car and at this point I trust Hyundai car's efficiencies. Personally I'll be looking at the new Kona to upgrade so I can get the longer range but still have roughly £10k off the price of the 6.
I think the styling of this car is unique and beautiful. The spoilers remind me vaguely of Porsche or Sierra Cosworth, and the sloping roofline seems Mercedes-esque. I must disagree with you when you say it's definitely not a saloon, or what I would call a sedan. Hyundai missed a great opportunity to greatly increasing its practicality by not hinging the trunk (bootlid) at the top, thus making it a "hatchback". The trunk, although spacious, has a very small opening due, I guess to the styling. It could have been so much wider. Lovely machine but, if I were forced (I expect I will never be) to buy an EV, I'd choose the Ioniq 5 over the 6.
The battery pack is the same and the engines are similar to the KIA EV6, but it has a more aerodynamic design. So with the same size and type of tyres, the range should be 12-15% better in a similar usage scenario as the KIA EV6.
Agree that you should re-visit this car for a full battery cycle and efficiency test. But what jars with me is that you’ll do it “perhaps not in the depth of winter”. Why ever not? I’m tired of efficiency reviews that are only achieved in warm weather. I bought my EV in the depth of winter and somehow feel I’ve been misled
I accept the streamliner nomenclature, but how is this not also a sedan in more generic terms? What part of the sedan’s definition does this violate? I didn’t know that sedans had to be boxy. The Infiniti J was a sedan, no?
@@adrianwright2182 I hate the analogy. Apple is very much into design and quality. Tesla isn't that much into either. Maybe Apple is over hyped and over priced, but so is Tesla. They're now priced closer to what they're worth but could still come down in price some.
It's for the American market, not Europe, as they prefer boots, not hatchbacks... Our Zoe (52kwh battery) gets 4miles per kWh atm (-3°C, 19° heater), getting 5 miles per kWh in summer. It has a decent rear luggage area, was much cheaper than an ID3, and fits in normal parking spaces. Build quality is ok, but is good enough compared to most other budget cars and has actual buttons for common functions (heated seats/ steering wheel etc)... Range is 190 in winter and 245+ in summer and tyres are still ok after 20,000 miles...if Renault brought out a higher range version (300+) it would be a winner...
Nope.. Americans prefer hatchbacks/SUVs. Just check sales numbers. They made this car for people who are obsessed with “range”. Which is funny, because range was never the problem with most of these EVs. It’s the charging infrastructure… which seems to be getting exponentially worse, not better.
It lacks some cohesion between the front and rear, it’s almost like two different cars stuck together. All a bit strange, which is no bad thing I suppose!
In the USA go with the Tesla, I have an Ioniq6 and it’s a great car. The charging situation in the United States is a disaster with Hyundai and they are severely dragging their feet on getting changed over to Tesla chargers. It’s a big joke getting a chargers on the Ioniq6 or Ioniq5 unless you pay for your own at home, but how far does that get you. Hyundai should have never jumped into the 100% EV market without a solution for the charging problem…….
I really don’t understand adjustable brake regen …. (Ginny, to be fair to her describes the joy of single pedal driving ) … but max brake regen equals maximum range ! Touching the brake pedal is a once a month event in my Tesla MY.
Max regen does not mean maximum range. It is actually the worst setting for range. The best tactic is to take your foot off the accelerator as early as possible and use the lightest regen possible (without activating the friction brakes).
If you want, you can set this car to 1 pedal mode and use it all the time. It is not prohibited, but in automatic regeneration mode, it has better range.
With the production version include the all-important real world DC fast charging experience. That info is a primary purchase consideration. Please give it more than a vague reference.
Reality is efficiency drops in cold temps and even more when you have the cabin heater on. My EV6 regularly achieves over 4miles per kWh when outside temp is over 10 degrees or so. Under 10 degrees it drops, and with heating on can be under 3 miles per kWh. No doubt the Ioniq 6 will be very similar.
A little trick I've done is to use the heated seats and a little throw blanket over my lap and legs, keep the main heat off. If it's around 40⁰F to 60⁰F, that's comfortable enough. Under 40⁰, it's not quite enough. I live in a temperature zone, so the cabin heat isn't needed all winter
So a car this large with a 400L boot??? Not even good for an Uber driver if they have to pick-up from the airport. A Cupra Born has the same size boot and would be easier to park.
Great car but the Model 3 RWD costs 45k, has a tax rebate and the Tesla Supercharger system plus a nav system that takes current battery charge into account and recommends where to stop and charge. Not saying the I6 isn't amazing. But price makes them apples and oranges after the dealerships jack the price by 10K or more.
I love the car, but the glossy black does not suit it as well as the lighter colors. I don't like driving tablets, so I'm in for the driver display and the HUD. It's a different class than a M3, serving slightly different type of customers.
So, looking at the entry level prices in NL, Hyundai offers a base 53 kWh low powered version with 429 km WLTP for €46k, which is €1k more than a Model 3 RWD with 491 km WLTP (and much more equipment/tech). Add a couple of options and the Hyundai is quickly getting much more expensive. But the real problem for this car is that it sits in the same price range as the Model Y, which is a much more popular form factor with the large hatch and huge space. And even the MY RWD gets more range than the entry level version of the Ioniq 6. Still seems like a decent car. What Hyundai needs to do is to scale up production massively and lower the price even more. I don't like the design, but applaud the focus on efficiency. That was one of the biggest let-downs of the Ioniq 5 for me. It really lost the crazy fast charging advantage by being so inefficient at higher speed.
My 38kw Ioniq gets around 4.5 miles per kWh in this cold weather so that should get way more when reporters stop thrashing it about! Also shouldn't us brits be listening to the Hyundai adverts and saying the name right nowadays? 🤣🤣
you cannot use the GOM to establish the actual range, you need to do a proper road trip, like any new car that is first reviewed I am sure the accelerator it has been properly mashed!
If they’d made the retail version look like the concept. The out looks would have been even better that a Tesla or Taycan. As it is, a bean counter won the day and slightly soiled the promise. Streamliner = sweptback saloon
Sorry Ginny, but if you read the spec sheets you would see that the car is capable of 381 mile range if fitted with the 18" wheels. Your test car has 20" wheels that reduces the range to 328 miles, as mentioned by others who drove the exact same car.
According to other reviews I've seen, in the UK only the 20" tyres are offered.
The more relevant point is that aerodynamics are only going to help at higher speeds. At 30-50mph like this review largely appeared to be, you should surely expect similar efficiency to the Ioniq5. It's the same drivetrain.
@@simondehaas8784 also if there is snow that is also worse case conditions as well. Slippery roads etc.
@@johnsonjjohnson100 Not true, every article I have read says that smaller wheels give longer range.
@@russellmoore1533 Agreed, every range test indicates this, and I suspect the reason is that larger wheel diameters are matched to lower profile tyres (to give the same overall diameter) but that those tyres are also wider increasing contact patch area and therefore rolling resistance.
And 20" wheels is pure stupidity on a std car.
Huge huge Tesla fan here and I'm SO HAPPY to see Hyundai making great electric cars, to all automakers-- more please and may you all enjoy your future EV regardless of brand!!!;)
It's definitely a sedan. It has 4 doors and a boot. End of. Looks really quite good from the side and the back, but the front is a bit of a let down. Really like the interior, though. Seems really well thought out and the light colors will make it seem bigger than it is on the inside. I've been a fan of the Ioniq 5 since it came out. If I had to choose between the two, I'd still probably go for the 5 versus the 6, but it's good the 6 is out there for people who want something a little different.
I like how Hyundai have created 3 different looking cars (GV60, Ionic 5 and Ionic 6) and are not really following convention giving buyers choice when they really did not have to.
I'm not a fan of the droopy rear end styling, but the interior is nice. Not sure this is comparable to Tesla Model 3 after their price cuts and their ability to mass produce vehicles. Hyundai/Kia make great EV's, but the wait time to get them, dealer markups and the fact that they do not get the EV tax credits in the US makes them non-competitive. Also you didn't show if this has a frunk.
Why don't they get the EV tax credits in the USA? Is that for US made cars only?
@@gap9992 yup
@@gap9992 Correct! It was meant to spark companies to create jobs for Americans by building and developing their products locally rather than outsourcing to other countries.
EVs must be built in NA to qualify.
Yup, it looks like an upside down bathtub 😂
I agree. This is a really good effort from Hyundai, but if you’re in the US the only reason to get this over the Model 3 is personal taste.
Really love the exterior design and the drag coefficient is quite an achievement. It's at the top of my shortlist for next EV this summer and I'm just waiting to get to see it in the metal and have a test drive. Can't wait!
I'd imagine the efficiency really comes with motorway speeds, since aerodynamic gains rise exponentially with speed... that combined with the epic 800V charging make it a strong choice for the niche of drivers who want to do regular long distances on routes with top quality chargers & little need for luggage (and who don't want a Tesla, for whatever reason). For families or urban commuters the shape and ridiculous boot probaby make this an instant 'nope', but there's probably still a (small) place for it.
Yeah, even as a delivery driver I still want it. I just can't chose anything else and I hate Tesla so there ya go.
Why urban drivers should not like it ?
@@giovannidepetris6335 Because you're sacrificing the practicality of a more practical shape (bigger boot/trunk, hatchback, more space or compact design, etc) for the range increase supposedly provided by the aerodynamic shape. But if there urban driver is rarely if ever going to get that range benefit, there are likely better options for them.
@@bazh6041 You're high
The drag should rise quadratically with speed, not exponentially
Long time Hyundai customer here. Was considering moving from my 2018 Elantra to a Hyundai EV, but my local dealer added on $5.1k of ‘extra fees’ (that’s literally what they called them in the quote…’Misc fees’, ‘non taxable fees’, ‘ Other charges’ and would not budge. By comparison, the local Tesla dealer’s fees are less than $2.1k. To get an Ioniq 6 that was comparable in features to an RWD Tesla Model 3 was $7k more before these extra fees…add those in and it would have been $10k more for the comparable Ioniq 6. As well, the same Hyundai dealer offered me $2,900 LESS than Tesla did for my trade in - seems they really understand the value of their own vehicles lol. It was a no-brainer. Hyundai has lost my business in large part due to this specific dealer, and I’ll be taking my business to Tesla.
2.8Kw/Mile sounds about right in the winter doing short stop-start driving. I have a 2019 Nissan leaf 2 Tekna with a 40kW non-temperature controlled battery still at 95% SOH. In the summer doing the school run and trips to the shops it will get about 4.5kW/mile, on longer motorways runs at about 65mph which drops to 3.5kW/mile.
This was the first winter with leaf, and I was shocked to see it gradually drop over the months as it got colder to 2.3kW/mile in the middle of Jan. I thought that most of that was down to the battery not performing well but it's not that, it's the heater and in this leaf the heat pump.
In the summer, I had no AC running, and didn't need it but in the colder months, its on all the time, but doing short stop get out and start-again trips means that the much heavier use (4kW) resistive heater, which heats up very quickly comes on for much more of the journey time and hence the 2.3kW/mile.
On longer runs in winter, when the resistive heater switches over to the heat pump, it goes up to about 3.8kW/mile.
So long story short, in the winter, doing short slow runs all the current electric cars drop well down in efficiency terms because the heaters suck up a lot of power and are on for most of the time unless you do longer trips and have a heat pump.
I was thinking it was just the leaf and the lack of battery management but the more reviews like this i see the more I'm realising that the leaf is quite good and it's the rest that aren't that much better in efficiency.
kWh...
@Colin Deal from the number he mention, I think he is talking about miles/kwh
What are you talking about? This makes no sense at all. Maybe you mean KWh?
I absolutely love the looks - Tatra 87 for the 21st century! So happy that streamlining is "sexy" again - not a decade too early. The lower the Cw, the better the looks.
It is not. Definitely not.
I am right and you are wrong! 😆 My opinion - my rules!
I love everything about it. I will still reserve final judgement until I see one in person and has had a test drive. But finally, we have an EV that makes sense. Not sure how long the wait is but couldn't wait to put a deposit down for it.
To really check efficiency against the Tesla 3 you need to do a side by side comparison along the same route in the same conditions.
I realize a review has to discuss practicality, but in almost every situation where a buyer needs a practical EV they'd pick the 5 over the 6. The 6 is aimed squarely at folks like me.. I'm not hauling any children to soccer practice, if I need something at Home Depot I've got a truck. I want a vibrant driving experience, a gorgeous look, and as much EV range and performance as I can get. The Ioniq 6 is miles/kilometers ahead of everyone in this price range.
If the looks of the front matched the look of the rear, this car would be a legend for the decades to come
I don’t understand why this channel consistently throws up opinions that don’t correlate with the rest of the journo world? All of the other reviews have shown good efficiency. You guys are always dropping the ball 🫠
Nice review. I thought you would have been able to reset the efficiency so that it was based on your driving rather than the cumulative of the community of test drivers(?).
Presumably they didn't have enough time with the car to get a suitable reading
All their reviews are shady at best.
Most reviewers are too lazy or ignorant to find how to do it in the menu. I hope that's not the case with Ginny though(as I love her to bits); I'm sure she has a good reason!
@@geoffhemingway3926 They know very well how to do it, but they're just sloppy. Leaving out or forgetting to do important details.
The E-GMP plattform is very efficient in any of the cars. I drive the Kia EV6 AWD on Swiss highways and many curvy mountain roads. On 9‘000 km the car consumed just 16,8 kWh per 100 km. A similar EQE was at 20,4 kWh. So the Ioniq 6 can be driven even below WLTP. The trick most testers do not want to try is ECO mode and a soft power pedal as well as foresight.
Hyundai have produced something here which is original and that's what the world needs. For too long we have been given breeze blocks on wheels. Tesla is not the force it was although their cars are still stylish & fast. Hyundai/ Kia with their warranties are formidable opponents.
Got 4miles per kWh out of my mg 5 today. -2 to 2 degrees. Heater on 21. 160 mile trip. Not sure I’d be forking out the extra 15 grand for something not as good.
The auto journalists rag these cars hard. Regular driving would net you a lot more
Some points to consider that are not made clear...
1) It's a pre-production car!
2) 20" wheels
3) It's clearly freezing temperatures
4) Is ECO mode and Level 3 Regen being used? (WLTP figures are based on those parameters)
5) Was the car preconditioned prior to setting off? (Again, another factor that influences battery management and achieving the higher miles per KW)
All of the E-GMP products are heavy and in my experience nowhere near as efficient as the outgoing models like the original IONIQ Electric 38.3kWh or the KONA 64kWh - which is ironic considering they were not built as standalone BEV platforms.
I have a lot of experience with recent Hyundai product and I can tell you that my Model 3 Long Range (with 20s & Acceleration Boost 395hp) has driven a daily commute of 65 miles each way during the same sub-zero conditions on the M25 at speeds of 65mph with the HVAC on, consistently returning 4 miles per KW.
I'm a big fan of the IONIQ 5 and I like the 6, but one thing is for sure, they don't come close to real-world returns. Looking at a dashboard display with an average efficency readout is utterly pointless unless you can guarantee the whole trip distance has been completed - the clue is in the title - 'average'.... and an average of a short test drive at that!
Old school pronunciation of Hyundai - the new TV ads tell you how.
HUNDAY.
Except the front, I like how it looks, mix of Saab, Citroën and Porsche. And that trunk is straight from Saab 96.
Side/profile has the old Mercedes jelly bean look to it.
Nice. I’d keep the model 3, but appreciate the option
Stink of Musk off that brand… no thanks
@@Brotherbear75 People are tired of hearing you whine about Musk. Musk, just like you, is entitled to opinions. Tesla makes the best EVs in the World hard stop. Move on, nobody cares about your "outrage" façade
@@Brotherbear75 Enjoy sitting in front of one or two (broken) chargers in the motorway services, wishing you'd bought a Tesla.
@@Kenbark42 I would never buy anything from qElon. Many people outside your echo chamber feel the same. LOOK AT THE SHARE SLIDE!
@@trainingtheworld5093 Do tell why you would "NEveR bUy ANytHiNG FrOm ELoN" Did he hurt your feewings?
Really nice car, but I definitely wouldn't choose it over a Tesla.
We need to know the cold range, since parts of the UK can be cold a 1/4 to 1/3 of the year. Real World, is not all lovely warm days and nights, or an empty car other than a driver, near empty boot, commercial travellers (reps) as we used to call them not paying for their own charging.
Saw Ginny on the BBC discussing the Tesla price cuts and said that's Ginny! true story
Tesla competitors must be shaking … because they simply can’t compete ..
I wouldn't caught dead in a Tesla. I really don't like the brand nor its front man.
@@Paul_C what about all the American factory worker? You hate them too?
Was Fully Charged not available? 😂
@@Atgul-z6o you really dislike Mercedes factory workers?
Wish it was a hatch back, but I like the way this car looks more than anything else I have seen in a long time from an attainable drivers car.
To answer the question posed, "Yes" I do like the design style. It fits well as a commuting car with a flare of elegance and style. For sure, a strong competitor to the Tesla Model 3. Thank you for the video e-car content. I enjoyed watching.
More to it than styling. Has it got the backing that Tesla has built up over the last decade.
Nice car, but it won't be cheap. Tesla is today "cheap" and good value for the buck. Did not calculate with quality, though.
A strong competition?!🤦♀️ In what world. Doesn't qualify for EV credits in the states and has 14 months wait time. It is 5000$ more in Europe and again, 14 months wait time. Has lower effeciency and Tesla produces 1 Million Model 3s whereas Hyundai does 50,000 a year....This will not sell well.
@@marcusbiller867 5 butts up against the Y & this will w/the three. Seems like a nice car & comes with an obscene free charging plan.
After 1 year and 51,000 km in my 2022 Model 3 rwd my average consumption is 154Wh/km. I live in Canada and drive aggressively. The real problem with the Ionic 6 is that it's not truly available. It's vaporware. Then there's the lack of charging infrastructure. The scene where 6'5" Mike is slouching in his seat is hilarious. Why does the media feel they have to hide the truth.
I'm not convinced, but it might grow on me. It almost looks like the front, middle and back have been designed by three different teams who never talked to each other.
I’m gutted it doesn’t look as stylish as the Prophecy show car due to the practicalities of everyday life, but it looks way more stylish than my super efficient Ioniq 38kWh
My answer to your question is YES, even if it probably will cost a lot more today.
Current owner here. I average about 4.3 kw/hr efficiency (even got a round 5.0 on some trips) and loving it. (Context: I live in a metropolitan area)
Low aero drag really only comes into full effect at higher speeds. Driving around UK B roads in winter weight is probably a bigger efficiency factor and the 6 is no doubt over 2 tonnes.
Now watched five reviews of this same poor Car. It gets about😂. That passenger door mirror may have a bad scratch just saying 😉 Well done Hyundai doing it their own way. Be interesting about sales of EV’s now Tesla has lower the price so much. The boot opening is acceptable to me as I’ve accepted I’d be ok with the Model 3 boot.
Hyundai just knocking it out the park 👏👏👏 I may not ever buy one but I appreciate what they are doing. You obviously tested this after a few journalists have launched it. It actually gets real world 270 miles (winter).
Looks like a traditional Jag had a love child with a Porsche... or was it a Ford Sierra? But will it fit in a parking space?
It's the sort of car Jaguar ought to be making themselves.
What type of battery? Anything on the software performance?
I think that the shape is very attractive and not like much else available in the Ev range of vehicles. The only thing I would like is something similar but shorter, and 10k cheaper now that would be a very, very attractive car.
You can buy a used original Hyundai Ioniq - the 'wind knife'.
@@FFVoyager And that just happens to be one of the most efficient EV's around....
@@Brian-om2hh I know. I've got one! 😁
My Ioniq is exactly what an tlectric car should be like! It is a shame, Hyundai has not yet offered an upgreated version of this very efficient an beautiful car.
Being a hatchbackk it is also bery Po ractical!
I'm wondering if the Ora Lightning cat would fit your description.
Hello Ginny great review i love this car and yes my first thoughts were the 4 door 911 Porsche or the 989 . I think Hyundai is on a winner with this car i was surprised with your range even in the winter , I live now on Vancouver Island and I drive a Genesis GV60 our weather is much the same as the UK at this time of the year when i am charged to 80% i have 250 mile range same battery as the Ioniq 6 . The Ioniq 6 is much lighter and much more streamline I am sure we will see a large increase in range thanks again look forward to more updates.
Cancel the Model 3 order and go for a Model Y. More practical all-round car. As much as I love the look of the Ioniq 6.... Tesla's new prices and new leasing deals mean they are better value for money.
I prefer the style of the Model 3, and the fact it's slightly smaller. Suits me more.
Phillip.
SO, the boot is like a standard boot from the pre-SUV days?
Thanks for the test. I guess the 6 will meet the efficiency requirements on long distance runs with continuous speed. I am of good hope that its aerodynamics concept will be successful… 28 kWh seems to be more or less a result of several driving teams under testing conditions at low temperatures, btw… 28 it‘s more consumption than that of an Ioniq5
Looks like a restyled 1996 Infinity J30t
I'm curious to see how this does against the updated model 3 highland, nio et5, byd seal, xpeng p5 and other's in the expanding 4dr mid size ev sedan market. I say not for me with the exterior styling to saab/merkur looking, but way to go team Hyundai. And bring in the i5n please. 👍🏻
Sure but where are nio cprng etc? Do i have to go to shanghai to get one??
....do they come in any colour......as long as its black?????
Living in southern US in the winter, our Ioniq 6 is getting 3.9 kw/mile according to the car computer.
Why is the charge port on the wrong side?
Another good report thanks. The car has a Mercedes coupe esque look about it.
The only way to know efficency properly is to ignore the guages. Charge to 100% drive a few hundred km then recharge to 100% and do the maths. When you do you will undoubtedly see a difference to the guage.
This is even more important on ICE cars and it amazes me when 'reporters' don't bother to do it properly before quoting the 'as tested' figure.
380+? 🤔 - let’s see a proper test from full to virtually 0%! It’s got potential though, plus that free Ionity year.
The looks are not for me. I would say ugly from the side profile but I know others will disagree. I have to say that your review was one of your best it had good structure and covered all the important points.
Well done Ginny.
The side looks good, but the front is incredibly ugly. Looks like a cheap car from the 90s
No mention of the drag
Coefficiency, do you have a figure ?
Used to live in a pub called the 'The Hand in Hand' on Boxhill and I loved the place! lol!
I really cannot say I like the look of this car. Has it got a frunk?
Testing in England in the cold? That seems to be perfectly adequate.
My Model 3 2021, Standard range Plus, over 5000 km, from Sep 2022 to Today, in full Standard and Sport mode is at an average of 155Wh/km.
I use all heating, seats and steering wheel, I use full autopilot whenever possible.
I'd love to see a proper comparison between the two cars, so both on the same road in the same conditions.
I can see the white dash reflecting in the screen, I noticed this issue on Soul 1 (also white dash) 😢
It would be great if you guys did a UK video for us Motability customers - a view of what was available and the best of those along with the costs.
There is a really poor choice just now - I have a Soul EVFE just now, I dont htink I'll be able to get anything close to that spec come next december when I have to replace it.
Definitely :)
That is the issue. Not much Low or nil advance payment EV's just now on this quarters Motability. But we will see as supply increases. I am due to repace my Corsa Electric in August so it is the next 2 quarters i am watching. But i will probably get the lease extended. Like the car, hate the 135 mile range. Needed new discs last year, needs new drop links now. There will be a bit bigger battery coming and the Astra Harch or Estate EV. Real World will still not be 200 miles for a 1/3 of the year. Oop north, when doing more than 40 mph in a carwith people and stuff in it.
@@georgewalker7061 If you can get the money up front, the MG4 looks very good on the Motability.
@@PassportToPimlico not for me. Black shiny plastic, rear wiper / spoiler and snow / ice issues. Freezing washer / nozzles, eco tyres needing all seasons fitted. Real world needs easy winter snow clearing,. Disabled drivers, not just disabled passengers.
Is this in the USA?
I think the trunk (boot) is a deal breaker for me. If there was a hatch instead of a small trunk opening it would work for my needs. It seems like they could have done that, but perhaps there is some engineering reason. I'm not sold on the looks but if the car is really efficient because of it, that would bring it a beauty for me that would tip the scales if it weren't for the bad boot. The EPA says 316 with the AWD so that's a lot better than the 266 for the AWD Ioniq 5. Hmmm, but I'd still buy the Ioniq 5 over the 6 as I love the way it looks and the range is still good.
380 miles minus 40% due to cold and higher speed than the testing average works out to about 240 miles... So that seems just about right to what you were getting.
where do you get -40% from? My Hyundai Ioniq goes from c204 in summer to c165 miles in winter which is much closer to a 20% reduction. granted, I drive in Eco mode because the efficiency is great but 40% is a huge drop
@@shaangrewal9054 You're comparing your range babying the car in the summer and winter. They are comparing the EPA rated range vs their driving style as well as cold. Since they are doing driving tests and the EPA range is based on specific speeds and combined city/highway that their own driving would be much higher speeds losing about another 20% off of the EPA.
Skoda in the EU have a really great sales page that you can pick their EVs and tell it how many passengers are in it, what mode you drive in, and if you are in the city or highway and if you keep everything the same the highway range is about 25% less than the city range due to speed losses and near zero regeneration chances. I just guessed at the 20% here since they would have been doing things like launches and handling tests which are far from babying the car.
@@Snerdles That's on me, I read your comment initially as if you were saying the cold alone was reducing 40% and was proper confused. I agree that most journalists are testing for launching speeds and not driving it as the everyday user would, so I'm also expecting the efficiency rate that Ginny saw to be depressed because of that.
Regardless, the 6 looks like an interesting car and at this point I trust Hyundai car's efficiencies. Personally I'll be looking at the new Kona to upgrade so I can get the longer range but still have roughly £10k off the price of the 6.
I think the styling of this car is unique and beautiful. The spoilers remind me vaguely of Porsche or Sierra Cosworth, and the sloping roofline seems Mercedes-esque. I must disagree with you when you say it's definitely not a saloon, or what I would call a sedan. Hyundai missed a great opportunity to greatly increasing its practicality by not hinging the trunk (bootlid) at the top, thus making it a "hatchback". The trunk, although spacious, has a very small opening due, I guess to the styling. It could have been so much wider. Lovely machine but, if I were forced (I expect I will never be) to buy an EV, I'd choose the Ioniq 5 over the 6.
The battery pack is the same and the engines are similar to the KIA EV6, but it has a more aerodynamic design. So with the same size and type of tyres, the range should be 12-15% better in a similar usage scenario as the KIA EV6.
Hyundai owns Kia.
I think that's a fair estimate
I liked the Ioniq 6, but I needed more space in the boot. so I went for the Ioniq 5 Premium. (24 plate)
They could definitely brand this as a Genesis if they wanted to. Glad they kept it for their main brand
Porsche? No. Chrysler Crossfire. That is the first car that comes to mind when I see the back of this thing.
A little doll at the front end, but the back and the side profile is excellent.
Exterior styling is ugly with the weird sloping rear end and that unsightly spoiler. Hard pass!
They raped the orginal concept.
Agree that you should re-visit this car for a full battery cycle and efficiency test. But what jars with me is that you’ll do it “perhaps not in the depth of winter”. Why ever not? I’m tired of efficiency reviews that are only achieved in warm weather. I bought my EV in the depth of winter and somehow feel I’ve been misled
I accept the streamliner nomenclature, but how is this not also a sedan in more generic terms? What part of the sedan’s definition does this violate? I didn’t know that sedans had to be boxy. The Infiniti J was a sedan, no?
What about it not having a rear window wiper!!
Looks like the Tesla from the front, Merc from the side .Porche from the rear ?
how does it look old already? the front view looks like from 90s and back gives throwback to early 911s
Liking the look. The Samsung of the ev world as Tesla is the Apple.
A very good analogy if I might say as apple products are indeed over hyped and over priced!
@@adrianwright2182 I hate the analogy. Apple is very much into design and quality. Tesla isn't that much into either. Maybe Apple is over hyped and over priced, but so is Tesla. They're now priced closer to what they're worth but could still come down in price some.
It's for the American market, not Europe, as they prefer boots, not hatchbacks...
Our Zoe (52kwh battery) gets 4miles per kWh atm (-3°C, 19° heater), getting 5 miles per kWh in summer. It has a decent rear luggage area, was much cheaper than an ID3, and fits in normal parking spaces. Build quality is ok, but is good enough compared to most other budget cars and has actual buttons for common functions (heated seats/ steering wheel etc)...
Range is 190 in winter and 245+ in summer and tyres are still ok after 20,000 miles...if Renault brought out a higher range version (300+) it would be a winner...
Nope.. Americans prefer hatchbacks/SUVs. Just check sales numbers. They made this car for people who are obsessed with “range”. Which is funny, because range was never the problem with most of these EVs. It’s the charging infrastructure… which seems to be getting exponentially worse, not better.
The exterior is wonderful. The interior is OK. I would want a larger touch screen,
Like the EV6, it's too big. We need smaller, efficient EVs.
It lacks some cohesion between the front and rear, it’s almost like two different cars stuck together. All a bit strange, which is no bad thing I suppose!
The 361 mile range with 4+ efficiency is the base SE model only.
In the USA go with the Tesla, I have an Ioniq6 and it’s a great car. The charging situation in the United States is a disaster with Hyundai and they are severely dragging their feet on getting changed over to Tesla chargers. It’s a big joke getting a chargers on the Ioniq6 or Ioniq5 unless you pay for your own at home, but how far does that get you. Hyundai should have never jumped into the 100% EV market without a solution for the charging problem…….
Can you do a review for the BYD Seal when available?
Very interesting review. Thanks! PS: Does your sponsor give you a bonus every time you use the word 'caveat'? 😊
I really don’t understand adjustable brake regen …. (Ginny, to be fair to her describes the joy of single pedal driving ) … but max brake regen equals maximum range ! Touching the brake pedal is a once a month event in my Tesla MY.
Max regen does not mean maximum range. It is actually the worst setting for range.
The best tactic is to take your foot off the accelerator as early as possible and use the lightest regen possible (without activating the friction brakes).
If you want, you can set this car to 1 pedal mode and use it all the time. It is not prohibited, but in automatic regeneration mode, it has better range.
Looks a bit like a reincarnation of a vintage Saab 92. Not a bad thing.
With the production version include the all-important real world DC fast charging experience. That info is a primary purchase consideration. Please give it more than a vague reference.
Physical buttons. Loving it.
front end reminds me of a late model toyota celica, body of a merc cls fast back, and back end of a old saab 900 for me.
Reality is efficiency drops in cold temps and even more when you have the cabin heater on. My EV6 regularly achieves over 4miles per kWh when outside temp is over 10 degrees or so. Under 10 degrees it drops, and with heating on can be under 3 miles per kWh. No doubt the Ioniq 6 will be very similar.
A little trick I've done is to use the heated seats and a little throw blanket over my lap and legs, keep the main heat off. If it's around 40⁰F to 60⁰F, that's comfortable enough. Under 40⁰, it's not quite enough. I live in a temperature zone, so the cabin heat isn't needed all winter
"I like the window controls all being in the middle here"
BMW Says "hello!"
gets a thumbs up on looks from me........having said that....i am saving for the 5
So a car this large with a 400L boot??? Not even good for an Uber driver if they have to pick-up from the airport. A Cupra Born has the same size boot and would be easier to park.
Ordered mine today!
Hyundai already had greatness in the form of ioniq electric, consumption in 38kwh model is 10kwh/100km with no AC on
Great car but the Model 3 RWD costs 45k, has a tax rebate and the Tesla Supercharger system plus a nav system that takes current battery charge into account and recommends where to stop and charge. Not saying the I6 isn't amazing. But price makes them apples and oranges after the dealerships jack the price by 10K or more.
I love the car, but the glossy black does not suit it as well as the lighter colors.
I don't like driving tablets, so I'm in for the driver display and the HUD.
It's a different class than a M3, serving slightly different type of customers.
So, looking at the entry level prices in NL, Hyundai offers a base 53 kWh low powered version with 429 km WLTP for €46k, which is €1k more than a Model 3 RWD with 491 km WLTP (and much more equipment/tech). Add a couple of options and the Hyundai is quickly getting much more expensive.
But the real problem for this car is that it sits in the same price range as the Model Y, which is a much more popular form factor with the large hatch and huge space. And even the MY RWD gets more range than the entry level version of the Ioniq 6.
Still seems like a decent car. What Hyundai needs to do is to scale up production massively and lower the price even more. I don't like the design, but applaud the focus on efficiency. That was one of the biggest let-downs of the Ioniq 5 for me. It really lost the crazy fast charging advantage by being so inefficient at higher speed.
My 38kw Ioniq gets around 4.5 miles per kWh in this cold weather so that should get way more when reporters stop thrashing it about! Also shouldn't us brits be listening to the Hyundai adverts and saying the name right nowadays? 🤣🤣
Unlike the previous IONIQ, I actually wouldn’t be ashamed to drive this!
I can see the inspirations in it and I like it , they true art is inspiring
you cannot use the GOM to establish the actual range, you need to do a proper road trip, like any new car that is first reviewed I am sure the accelerator it has been properly mashed!
Prototype looks much better, hopefully they offer an add on package.
No frunk?
This car is a saloon. Saying it isn’t is like me saying I’m big boned
If they’d made the retail version look like the concept. The out looks would have been even better that a Tesla or Taycan. As it is, a bean counter won the day and slightly soiled the promise.
Streamliner = sweptback saloon