Hyundai Ioniq 6 First Edition review incl v Tesla Model 3 v BMW i4 40e
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2023
- We spent the day driving the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 6 First Edition so here is my review of what I like and don’t like.
As we happen to also have here a Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a BMW i4 40e I can also run some comparisons with those.
Let me know what you think
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The BMW's frunk isn't too bad. You can fit a leaf in there and the Leaf is not a small car anymore.
Dad jokes are allowed when you are a dad 😊
The all black ioniq 6 looks CRAZY
Hyundai looks great. Particularly in that colour. All decent looking cars though.
Always informative. I've seen a couple of Ioniq 6s in the wild, both in white, and I rather like the look of them. Having an EV6 myself I sort of agree with your moan about the infotainment system, but when you learn how to use it (and customise it so that all the buttons are in easy reach) then it works well enough. The comfort, space, charging speed, and driving assists more than make up for a slight clunkiness in the SatNav that I might only use once every couple of months.
I won't be changing my car any time soon, but if I had to choose one of the three in this video I'd go for the Hyundai (just remember the last syllable is pronounced "day"). But I'm thinking about the EV9 when that comes out. If it builds on and betters the EV6 then it will be amazing.
Agreed. Ioniq 6 in the metal looks great.
A brilliant informative video and it backs up my thought that if I had the budget the Ioniq 6 would be an easy choice for me with my only negative being the boot opening as I do carry round a large insulated bag (I virtually only use the screen to see my battery % in my Ioniq so that wouldn't bother me much). I love the looks, feel and efficiency and while the supercharger network is nice with the range of the Ioniq 6 I'd almost never use a public charger and I couldn't look at the BMW everyday with that grill.
Totally agree, except that I actually anticipate buying one of the models you drove. Brilliant video!
You do a good job Richard.
Thanks.
Always a great non bias opinion that deserves trust. Well done.
I like the look of it. I would rather have efficiency than looks but I think this looks nice as well.
Anything but a ubiquitous Tesla. It’s like the cortina of the 70s, sierra of the 80s, mondo……bmw 3 series……you get it, repmobile!
I drive a M3LR, have been a long term BMW fanboy, but love the Hyundai styling.... so no losers in this lineup!
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"A couple of elbow holders". Classic!
GREAT unbiased review; that's why I support this channel. I know your a Tesla guy. . great videos!
*you're
I like those first edition wheels too. I have "regular" edition here in Australia (but first drop!), still loving the drive after 2 months of ownership.
All of them are great cars. I would choose the BMW if I they were equal price, but in Western Australia the base Model 3 is $68k and base i4 is 114k drive away. Loving the content! Can't wait for you to get your hands on the new Volvo EX30.
I like that matt black ioniq 6. The design of the car is stunning. It looks like a mixture of a saab and porsche.
Great warts and all comparative review. All those models, for me, would require some compromises, so I’d probably opt for something else entirely when I buy my first EV.
I've got a Megane E-tech and one of the best things about it is the google interface with maps, google assistant etc. Its amazing, seamless, includes SOC% to destinations, gives you EV charging points. All cars should have it!
I love my First Edition, but I went for gravity gold. I like the smooth ride, its efficiency, and the spacious interior.
HUD, parking sensors, radar, tactile buttons, instrument cluster display, and really fast charging are features I would miss.
Here in Germany, Tesla Superchargers don't dominate the market, and are not cheap.
Any negatives?
@@akf2000 The First Edition does not have ventilated seats, due to the textile seats, and it was only available with a black interior. I could only finance or lease the car, I don't know why, maybe to stop me from reselling it in the first year.
I had to reset the infotainment once, because it had lost its BlueLink connection.
@@akf2000 One more: the frame around the displays reflects a little too much in the windshield, in bright sunshine.
Good comparison. I don't mind the transmission tunnel in the i4, probably because I not that tall! But love the handling.
On the subject digital mirrors (cameras and screens) with a traditional mirror if you move your position you can change your view through the mirror this is the failure of screens, you can't see more than what appears on the screen.
There is a way of bringing the mirror inboard the vehicle, reducing drag, PRISMATIC MIRRORS.
Great video. Just missing an intro graphic bit 🤷♂️ Keep them coming 😁👍👍
Looks like it was designed on a Friday afternoon!
With a dog doing its business as inspiration no doubt 😂
I think it's sexy
After a few drinks 😂
No doubt you all drive Tesla and have never seen a jelly mould 😂
Ioniq 6 any day! Ours arrived after the new year, yay!
After 7500 km in ev6 awd and as a previous Audi and BMW owner, I would choose Ioniq 6. I don't like the design and refinement of Tesla. I4 is really nice, and if I don't have a daughter, I would pick it. I've just done almost 1200 km holiday trip from Poland to Croatia and 800 v architecture combined with ionity 350 charges gives Teslas run for its money on longer journey.
Agree interesting platform but I have indeed settled on the tesla. I just trust them more in the BEV space because they've been around longer and I trust them to only get better and separate themselves from the competition as the preeminent BEV car production company...
For some time I wanted the Ioniq 6 to replace my Ioniq 38kWh, but it lacks a little of the practicality I want (no ski hatch for example) and I’m still a little disappointed with the final styling. I’ve driven a model 3; it was quick and comfortable, but no quieter than our Ioniq. I’ve been in a 4 series GC, but an i4 and space is a little tight. I don’t want an SUV, but at the moment my favoured replacement seems to be the Polestar 2. What are your thoughts on that as an alternative Richard?
The look of a car is subjective. I think the Ioniq 6 looks the best of the three.
It came out on top in range and charging.
It’s better to drive than I expected.
The Tesla and the BMW are great cars but I think their fronts are hideous.
I prefer the Teslas wheels.
See what I mean about subjective.
When I looked up the Ioniq 6 here in Canada, it looks like the version you have is the one with the $6000 ultimate package add on?
Also, how is the app?
I wish we had more of these interior features on the US spec cars. Also would have been nice to have the first edition model here as well!
It was very interesting when you do the comparison between the Hyundai car efficiency data and the app efficiency data. The same discrepancy exists with the Kia EV6. I always find that the car is about 15 to 20% lower than the app. The app creator has never been able to give me an explanation as to why that is because he says that the data comes from the same source so should be the same. I don’t know whether anyone can shed any light on this? Thank you for a great review.
I like the look of the Ionic 6 personally but to me it doesn't stack up so well here in NZ with current pricing. Comparing base RWD 6 to Model 3:
1. The 6 RWD costs $79,990 and the model 3 RWD $68,200 (drive away price) - which is a significant difference to me.
2. Range 6 (54 kWh): 429km versus model 3 (60 kWh): 491km (yeah thats not what you get real world however I'm sure the model 3 gets more range than the 6).
3. Performance 6 0-100kph 7.4s (top speed 185kph) versus model 3 0-100 6.1s (top speed 225 kph - not that we need that). I like the acceleration and handling of the model 3.
4. And the other advantages of Tesla, as you pointed out: efficiency (very low energy cost), software, super chargers and storage space.
So if you prioritise comfort and styling, then the Ionic 6 may be a good choice for you but otherwise the Model 3 is pretty compelling.
Great review, Richard. Particularly pertinent for me as I’m moving from a 3 to an Ioniq 6 next month. Lot of to and fro between choosing another 3, an i4 or the Hyundai. Still happy with my choice.I think 😬😂
Glad it was helpful!
I currently drive a i4 40 (carpool) but have a ioniq 6 coming, the main reason is that in the basic i4 you cannot recline the seat bottom so only supports my butt, and since I am almost 2m tall I do not have enough left foot space (even in the left hand drive) resulting in a not very comfortable position.
Tesla and fit Ohlins comfort coilovers
Interesting point about the Tesla being good for first timers due to simplicity - haven’t had one myself, but get the point. Made me wonder how many people are now on their 2nd or 3rd EVs. Still on my first after 3 years.
Not even had my first luckily.
Here we are a year later and you can get an I6 here in the states for a song with two years of free fast charging. Like it or not, it's more affordable than the other two.
Looks fantastic,shade of saab 900 at rear.Brilliant to see design given a chance and different to everything else on road.Well done Hyundai.
❤️ it.
Just wondering… Apple Car Play maps… I’ve driven some VW ID.3,4 and 5 cars recently and I discovered that you can’t pinch in and out to zoom in either google nor apple maps. You also can’t move the map around.
There seems to be buttons for zoom and moving.
The cars have a friggin touch screen but they haven’t heard of pinch to zoom.
So, my question….
Is this limited to just VW ID cars or is this an issue on other brands who use Apple Car Play?
And does it also affect Android Auto as well?
I tried apple maps in the Ioniq 6 which work well but don’t show charge points, so I use the cars’s nav which works well for me.
I can pinch to zoom android auto on my f-pace.
@@andrewjameswelch cheers. 👍
Don't really know why but these look so good when they're driving vs parked
As usual Richard very subjective, most people make the look and drive of a car the priority in which case it’s the BMW for me, if it had the Tesla charging network it would be miles ahead of the other two IMO.
ionic 6 is heavy for a 77kwh battery pack. how come the new hyundai are not as efficient as the ionic 28 classic- I had one of those and could get 6 mile kwh without trying and 8 mile driving efficeiently in summer
Hyundai vs Tesla is a no-brainer. Hyundai any day, superior build quality and warranty.
It would be interesting for a video on how Tesla advanced autopilot and FSD work and whether either is worth the money. Best regards Martin
FSD is not yet worth it outside North America. But it’s looking good value over there - naturally it won’t be considered value by everyone, it will depend on personal circumstances.
I think it looks quite good. That being said I don't really like the look of Tesla vehicles so maybe I'm an odd one 😄
I don't like the look of teslas either.
Nah many petrol heads aren't a fan of Tesla's looks
I think this car looks great though
I drive a Tesla and will be switching to the ioniq. I think the Tesla is by far and away the ugliest car of the three - it looks like an axolotls - only the model Y is uglier. The bmw the best looking but for me there are just way too many compromises given it’s an ice car conversion. I am going to put 18in wheels on my new ioniq and then I reckon it will be as efficient if not more so than the Tesla - also running on 18in on this test. The software is a concern but let’s hope Hyundai get there act together and update it to be as good as the rest of the car.
I think it is wishful thinking that legacy auto will get software right. User experience is poor.
@@djsslater you may well be right. The question is do you want a computer on wheels - which compromises the driving capabilities or a car that compromises the computer capabilities? I know which one I am about to switch from
Let’s go
I wonder how creeping the ioniq 6 remotely will work in detail, i bet a lot of people will not bother to read up on it and might be surprised when the car starts moving while the key is mashed in their pocket.
It's not that simple. You can't just press one button and do it accidentally.
I actually use it. Which surprised me. It’s useful.
If I could buy on I'd go tesla
If the front was as nice as the rear it would be stunning…😉
I still love my M3 Tesla
I'd pick an Ioniq5 and have slightly less range....
Impresssions: When I first saw the Ioniq 6 last year I vaguely thought Mk2 Jaguar [that ages me] from the side. I'm undecided about the looks. One thing - UA-camr Technology Connections has tested the Ioniq 5 with its regen braking light settings, and it can be dangerous - a real oversight by Hyundai. You could easily be hit up the rear because the lights don't come on with regen braking. I believe the issue is the same in the Ioniq 6. Finally, I could't stomach another car with really crap software [VW ID3 owner], so that's a deal breaker for me.
One off-topic question. I see that Ford and GM have adopted the Tesla-NACS charging connector. To my mind that is a brilliant decision, which I think should be adopted worldwide. What do RSymon RSEV think?
After more than 20.000 miles in my Ioniq 5, I can assure you there is no danger in regen breaking. It does turn on the breaklight, when regen is strong.
@@SvikDK Ok good. Interesting that Technology Connections clearly had an issue.
My brake lights come on in regen in my Ioniq 6.
The software is different from the model 3 but seems ok to me.
It drives superbly.
@@bentaxelrod I watched the previous video where the Ioniq 6 couldn't understand Richard's various voice commands. Nope. That would drive me up the wall. If the feature is there it must be reliably capable of carrying it out. If Hyundai (or VW for that matter) would say 'beta' version, I would sort of understand.
@@ramblerandy2397 I think it was the American market cars if memory serves, there was also something about indicators over there where they don't have to have separate orange lights so the brake lights go out and the rear light flashes the signal turn... Not sure if that was necessarily all about the Ioniq5 though...
There’s still no real competition for Tesla. When you look at it in aggregate. The efficiency, range, UI, performance, APP, Superchargers, practicality, reliability etc. are all excellent and at their prices are I think the best option.
That’s not to say that some other cars don’t compete in some areas - clearly they do, but they’re just not as good value.
Has Chrysler crossfire look at the back think Jeremy Clarkson summed that up.
I admire Hyundai for being a bit different, both the styling and paint colours are unusual. I really liked the ambient lighting in the Ioniq and some of the interior features (hollow tunnel etc) are good too. But for rear seat passengers a Model Y is miles better for similar money and overall size. The BMW really shows the downside of using a non-EV platform, it looked really cramped.
The Tesla doesn't cancel the 'Autopilot' on indicating. It should but it doesn't.
It gives me old porsche vibes
Nothing comes close to the taycan in everything except charging network i would say
Don’t like the ioniq 6 I’m afraid. Did you also noticed when you put seats down how narrow the space is… weird!!
Model 3 rain thing… not happening on newer models, from 2021 onwards.
Still model 3 for me…
I've got the opposite problem now. Wipers in the sun! Means I lose CC...
@@everusualsuspect I don’t have that problem 🤷♂️
@@ericvet8b I'm going to report it to them
I happen to have driven all three of them (loaded AWD, LR, M50). When keeping the value proposition in mind the choice is really easy here.
Also: The Ioniq 6 looks like it's melted and bending in profile - the front and (to some degree) rear really aren't the main design issues in my book.
Hello mate
smart park is a cute little thing, but keep in mind, if you need to smart park your car to get it into a tight space.... the guy next to you who doesnt have smart park is going to bang the shit outta your car trying to open his door when he tries to leave.
Tinted windows don't mean shhh
they know who's inside
Love the car inside and out.
Less keen on the price
They want 25k balloon payment after 3yrs, quite like that price though. May get one in 2026
Thanks Richard. The Ioniq 6 looks overdone to me. Just too much stuff on the exterior. Altho i might get used to it in person. On the other hand, the Model 3 is just too basic inside and out. One reviewer aptly described is as 'melted confectionery'. The i4 edrive40 has the classic looks of a Bimmer. I used to own a Model 3 and switched to an i4 because of the nice styling, better build quality and interior, better suspension, classic Bimmer handling AND a REAL SUN ROOF!
As long a car does not charge above 200-220kW 800V battery does not mean anything. It's snake oil.. E-GMP platform just pushing the chemistry a little harder than everyone else. Charge at a C2 vs C1,4 for almost every one else.
Good vid. It's semi-amusing if also quite sad to see that both the other £50+k cars are still trying to catch up with even my 10 year old Model S when it comes to usability/software/modern features. BMW will cling on to I drive to their last breath but let's face it it's garbage. Sadly my dad had a 4 series for 6 years and I simply did not like it, so i would walk straight past the 4 series even if it was £35k (£70+k, LOL). The Ioniq does look interesting and has potential but the software interface with sat nav that cant even find a charger, is unforgivable on a "next gen" 50k car. Overall for both other cars B+ must try harder :D (people may accuse me of being a Tessy fanboy but in reality I've always been a proper petrol head and still am).
The i5,i7, new polestars, iD7, and more to come are all way nicer and more feature packed than any Tesla I ever went in. Model S I've sat in but even that was missing features and I immediately discount it in the UK due to the new S and X not coming here.
legacy auto is in a race to stay in business will be tough for them to compete as they know zero about software having outsourced to contractors for the the lowest cost
@@JohnnyZenith "feature packed".... like waiting seconds after you click anything to get a response on a 1990s TomTom looking satnav 🙄
@@JohnnyZenith S and X would've been £100k+ cars.... you can buy two Ironic 6s for that
Front looks good - but the back end looks very droopy! Side view makes it look banana shaped
Great with a new EV, the more the better, too bad it is so expensive
You have to be a bit emotional to get anything other than the fastest most efficient / most convenient and cheapest option. Tesla for the win.
Saab 900 backend
The Ioniq 6 is banging the whole design is Juicey lovely better looking than a model 3
Hyundai are not afraid to go wild
If u don't like this car u must be blind ..
O I am a bmw man
Think I shall change to Hyundai
Bmw boring same old same old to be honest ..
And the best car is; Tesla model Y…..
From now on the non-tesla option every time, Polestar, any new BMW, iD7, Buzz, etc. I wouldn't choose any if these 3. Least of all the Model 3.
The back just looks like it has collapsed
Looks like a cut n shut of a Porsche and a Toyota.
I honestly, think it looks…horrendous and if you gave me one for free, I’d give it back :) But what looks horrendous to me, some other people would love, doesn’t mean it’s a bad car.
Richard, Hyundai say its pronounced Hyunday, not Hyundie.
Not a Hoondaay fan the 6 is marmite for sure. I dont like marmite.
Im not touching a hyundai for free. It might have a better repair record than a bmw tho. lol
I'm missing a HUD on M3/MY.... that's the only thing I want to otherwise a perfect car
Unless they remove the stalks. Then it's a shitty car
No hatchback. No sale. BMW ftw.
I like it but it does look strange at the sides
Pretty? No, but still good looking and the best of those three. To me the issue is that poor efficiency, how come these new dedicated EVs for Hyundai/Kias are almost worse than their old Niro/Kona, even the orig Ioniq was much better.
And Hyundai need an estate version of this, with big rear seat adjustment
Because the i6 weighs about 600kg more than the Ioniq and has wider tyres.
Talking about Dog Mode. My upcoming Smart #1 Brabus has Dog Mode. These Chinese will steal anything. 🤣
Rather have a Tesla…
Horrendous looking monstrosity the Kia !
Can’t understand spending time talking about how a car looks, which I can see in seconds. Information re range , charging speed and efficiency should not be so hard to find
Can't stand the rear of the ionic 6.
Looks like a boomerang from the side, not in a good way
No matter what. Only Tesla invest in giving you charging infrastructure. The rest just rely on other people to give you chargers. Sell you a car to hell with how you get power in it. Poor show. Well done Tesla.
Much as I love my Tesla, I depute that it doesn’t need CarPlay. I miss Apple Maps, Audible, Messaging, PlexAmp, Prologue and quite a few others!
Why everyone try to copy Tesla?
Not bad, I’d get the polestar 4
Yikes! It looks like a model 3 that got left out in the sun and melted a bit.
The 6 is alot better than the 5 by far
The 5 drives rubbish to be honest..
The 6 is a drivers car 🚗
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All of these cars treat the rear passengers like they are an afterthought. Design over function. Model 3 wins for the dumbest rear seats ever..... oh wait, tied with the 911.... LOL
Looks like they've cut and shut a Tesla with a 2006 Merc CLS, ugly.
Looks awful. The fact you spend half the video comparing to a Tesla says it all 🤣🤣
Just save your money and buy a Tesla 👌👌👌
Yeah, I have difficulty justifying the higher cost of the Ioniq 6 when it's slower, doesn't have sentry mode, no built-in dashcam, no supercharging network, no phone key. It's a nice car, but the price doesn't make any sense.
Ooooh! The ugliness! They have kind of copied everything😉