"After Whitney, I grab the watering can and KO the Sudowoodo." That just makes me picture your character running into a shop, grabbing a metal watering can, running outside and clubbing a Sudowoodo over the head with it..
especially since most people like me watch this for background noise after watching it normally. I totally forgot that he said that so I was super confused when I heard it again
I love Heart Gold. On my first play through I decided to catch a Zubat and evolve it into Golbat to fight Morty, as it was fast, knew bite, and was immune to poison. Leveling it up wasn't easy. It fainted a lot at first and I felt bad for the little pixel bat so I would let it follow me and give it haircuts to make it happy. When it evolved into Golbat I figured I would give it a few more levels to be safe, but when it gained another level it evolved into Crobat. Made me really happy 😊
I was using a Zubat in Legends Arceus and it died soooooo much it was so annoying but when it evolved it was overpowered since it was a level 22 Crobat
@@ShinyShilla I ment it from a team building context. His water typing puts him at odds with Fraligator. You can argue for him being in due to the ground typing but with Fraligator on the squad, the outing Quagsire in will put the team in a disadvantage.
Slugma has a Base speed of 20 and Magnemite has a base speed of 40, plus I ran the calcs the Thunderbolt had a 6.3 chance to OHKO Fast, Also Slugma has really low Special Defense and Magnemite has base 95 Special Attack Should have used Quagsire
I can only speak for myself but I liked level grinding, and I'm not saying they should remove the New EXP. Share because I find it useful for evolving Pokémon solely for their dex entries; but if they brought back the on/off option I would be very happy. I liked giving my team one on one attention so I knew exactly what they could do and how much they could withstand.
I'd specifically say it's better in SM/USUM since they reintroduced the "higher levels get less exp from lower levels" mechanic. XY's Exp. Share felt kinda excessive without that detail balancing it out.
In the original gen 2 games morty is more harder lol because of his hypnosis and dream eater combo in hgss they just nerfed him by replacing dream eater with sucker punch
I still would choose Typhlosion for this sort of playthrough. Feraligatr may be pretty good itself, but Magcargo honestly weighs it down so much more than Quagsire would do for Typhlosion. 8+2 is less than 6+5, you know.
@@gengarzilla1685 that combo is great but Quagsire itself has some issues, namely underwhelming stats and Ice Punch onky being available through the Battle Frontier after you’re already champion. If anything you could always use them both but in different roles. Plus Eevee is capable of breeding with both the Typhlosion and Ampharos lines so you could still go with another Eeveelution if you so desired.
Kyle Raven Amor i mean.. he did say “why is friendship do hard?” So he was probably relating to an eeveelution that needs friendhip which are only sylveon,umbreon,espeon so yeh
Kyle Raven Amor OMG YES. I DO WATCH IT LOOK AT MY ICON RN ITS LITTERALLY SPEED FROM ES THE JOLTEON u know? Who was to dense to even know that a glaceon had a crush on him?
Imagine if Michael returned it after Red. "Here you go , I only evolved Kenya and beat 6 gyms and all Kanto gyms. I also beat The Elite Four and the Champion with it. Thanks!"
You know, with all of the trouble Slugma caused, it might've been a good idea to just use Quagsire. Yes, it has a doubled up type weakness to Grass with Feraligatr... But that's literally their only overlapping type. And thanks to the fact that about half of the Grass types in this game are also Poison type, he has two counters for most Grass types to switch to in Fearow and Espeon.
@@LordRemiem I did a similar run, with wild battles disabled - so no catching and no grinding. Typhlosion was a monster the first half of the game, Ampharos got me through the league, and Quagsire and Dragonite did the deed against Red (at levels 43 and 58), with all the X SpDef items and exploiting Venusaur's bad IA to setup 6 Dragon Dances.
@@LordRemiem no it does it it’s not a video were saying what is the objectively best way to beat the gang this way it’s a video about him doing your fun fucking challenge
He should have used Quagsire anyways as the water/ground typing makes it quite powerful except against grass, particularly as its attack is higher than its special attack so ground attacks are especially damaging. Having 2 water pokemon (one of which has an electric immunity) would not be a bad thing in Gen 2.
@@thundrr1929 Yup. It may be the Trash Heap Pokemon but it's not garbage as far as fights! Hence why it took offense to Slugma and Magcargo being called garbage
25:54 Claire: “You’re kidding, right? I’m supposed to win! I already decided!” What a *CHILD* this woman is. Just an absolute *baby* who can’t accept the fact that something isn’t going how she wanted.
And people give Whitney grief when she cries. At least Whitney actually gives you the badge you're entitled to once she's had a moment to cool off. Clair's infinitely worse.
@@gengarzilla1685 Clair is Whitney and Jasmine combined: she whines when she loses like the former and makes you go on a fetch quest before you can get your badge like the latter.
Ehh, she's never actually lived up to any of that hype when I battle her. I've won there with an equal levelled Quilava and Noctowl once, two Pokémon you'd think would get flattened by Rollout. No buckets full of potions or X Items either.
I'm so addicted to your videos. Great video as usual and you're so tolerant and patient to do such challenge on the johto games. Milktank is so damn annoying but i think that having my starter 19LVLs higher kinda helped me all along my playthroughs of the johto games
*picks slugma for his team and leaves quagsire as HM slave* Me: oh he's going to regret that. *slugma is useless as expected and electric types stomp his team at every chance* Me: yup, called it.
Bayleaf is really good for Whitney! It has reflect, poison powder, synthesis, and razor leaf help to hard block. Setting up reflect and then poisoning it twice allows for you to synthesis and potion until the poison timer runs out. Bayleaf is also really bulky, so it can absorb several hits from Whitney.
@@Eevee3171 Unfortunately, Graveler needs to be traded with and who would trade with me only to immediately give the new Golem back? Also, it’s darn slow! Gyarados would hose it!
How do you know about parallel universes if you are 8 y/o and cant even throw pokeballs?? Smh?? Im certain you dont learn about parallel universes in 2nd grade cuz im 17
I like to imagine that everyone makes fun of Lance and calls him a Flying-type Trainer, while he grumbles and says he’s a dragon trainer. All of his Pokèmon are flying type, after all
@Lyn Wood Probably because if Gyarados has the dragon type once Magikarp evolves at level 20 it would be very op, especially because Gyarados is a really good pokemon even without the dragon type.
40:01 "and now comes the part of the game that has made me decide to never ever do a playthrough challenge of a Johto game again" In January 2022 he did another Johto playthrough challenge on MandJTV Plays channel (Pokemon HeartGold, but I'm Team Sky) Edit: He did the Miltank only playthrough in HeartGold when the MandJTV Plays channel reached 1M subscribers
@@uncanadien3272 Excuse me, but Chikorita is my favorite 2nd Gen starter and if you think no one likes it I recommend you watch TFS Gamings SoulSilver Nuzlocke, afterwards you will love Meganium 100% guaranteed.
Michael: *hypes up that the run is able to be failed if he has a pokemon that can't learn a required HM* Also Michael: *picks a starter that can learn EVERY mandatory HM*
The best part about the Primo eggs is that it feels like you're using some Winter Soldier esque activation phrase. "What do you think of me?" TOYS. BORED. "Oh wow, I never thought about it like that." DRY SKIN. ANIME. "You know what, you're a cool guy. Have this egg."
The most important lesson here; Slugma is worse than you think. Also, I'm pretty sure that the Johto games are the worst for that grinding due to the awkward level curve. Playing an enhanced (hack) version of the game such as Sacred Gold or Storm Silver is so much better in this regard. You know it's bad when a so-called "difficultly" actually means less grinding.
Slugma/Magcargo are such early gen Pokémon. Slugma has a pathetic 250 BST and for some reason evolves at a stupid level 38. You'd think having to carry such a weak pokémon for so long would reward you with a good pokémon. But no. its BST is 410 (pre-gen 7). That BST is around a second-stage starter. The other fully-evolved Pokémon around that BST mostly evolve at levels under 20. Magcargo should've been an evo in the early 20s at the latest. This pokémon, instead of being a fire slug that randomly shows up on grassy routes in Kanto, should've been a capture in the burned tower's basement when the pokémon are levels 14-16 or something, so you'd have to carry it for like, 10-ish levels at most. The worst part is that out of the 160 BST boost, 80 went into a completely useless Defense stat since 3 of its weaknesses are rock, fighting and 4x ground, probably the 3 most ubiquitous physical attacking types. That also meant that 80 BST had to be spread over 5 stats, so aside from Special Defense, every stat only rises by *10.* The 40 in Spdef ofc are also wasted cuz it has a 4x weakness to water, another common type. Please gamefreak, for the love of god give Magcargo another Evo that puts it at like 530 BST with like, a fire/steel typing or something so its defenses actually mean something.
I had a similar experience with Morty in my recent HeartGold playthrough. In my case, I switched in the level 1 Togepi that hatched from the egg to buy turns to heal one of my other Pokémon, then realized Gengar couldn't do anything against Togepi unless I attacked it. Eventually the Gengar ran out of PP and struggled itself to death.
It's hella disappointing how hard Morty got cucked over in the remake. Swapping that Gengar's Dream Eater for Sucker Punch turned his ace Pokémon from an actual menace to an exploitable joke.
Yeah, the fact they removed dream eater for some reason is so stupid, especially since sucker punch runs off its bad attack anyways. Like, at least give it dark pulse or something.@@gengarzilla1685
@@gengarzilla1685 gengar now being able to use special shadow ball in hgss is very spooky though, but replacing dream eater for sucker punch made normal types deal with it pretty easy yeah
THANK YOU!!! I’m tired of people saying the new exp share makes it too easy, I only play nuzlockes and them removing the grinding makes it much more enjoyable
Weird that Mikey needed that much grinding tho. I don't usually need it except for the first gym, because I wipe every single trainer I see... and I saw Michael skipping some of them in this video.
It makes it more enjoyable just playing the normal game too. Why do so many people think that level grinding for hours makes a game more difficult. No, it does not, it just makes it boring. If you want to make your game harder, just turn off the exp share and avoid battling wild Pokemon so you won't level up any time fast.
yep, also consider that you can get Dark Pulse in Victory Road, and get Flamethrower via level up, and Sludge Bomb, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand like, roar for a final moveset?
I second that to get the Eevee evolution so thank you very valuable I just picked up HeartGold today going to be my first time playing although I've beaten the second gen 2nd gen gold and silver back in the day many times.
you meet Lance at the lake of rage force evolving his Dragonairs then he goes all hypocrite on team rocket for force evolving pokemon in the lake and destroys the machine allowing the pokemon to be force evolved
If anything he's the flying type master, I mean that's the only thing his team has in common other than being scumbag choices, and Lance the Scumbag Master just doesn't roll off the tongue that well
Seeing how you can get a level 10 Salamance in Sun and Moon. It’s arguably rational that you can get a Dragonite that under the evolution threshold and train it.
This just reminded me that my first Dratini I got from the old man was Shiny. I was so confused why my Dratini was pink and incredibly disappointed when it evolved to Dragonite.
I started this challenge today! Just got to Goldenrod, picked up Kenya the Spearow and evolved her into Fearow, picked up an Abra from the Game Corner and evolved that into Alakazam. I also went with your strategy picked Totodile as my starter and the 3 eggs from Primo. So far hating Slugma just like you! Thinking about grinding out some cash to get myself and early Dratini from the Game Corner and swapping Slugma out for it.
I'm doing this same themed challenge run in Crystal right now. I did it with Blue Version already too. It's a fun way to try something knew on the game
slugma: dies mikey: ok thats fine maybe bad luck slugma dies again mikey: ummm ok im gettin a bit mad slugma dies again mikey: WTF SLUGMA U HAD ONE GOD DAMN JOB edit: thx for the likes 😃
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I WANT IT
Hmm idk is there kid sizes?
Michael you are the greatest model ever
Michael, you are the true Champion.
"After Whitney, I grab the watering can and KO the Sudowoodo."
That just makes me picture your character running into a shop, grabbing a metal watering can, running outside and clubbing a Sudowoodo over the head with it..
"Thanks for the can."
*breathes in and out*
"YEET"
Sudowoodo fainted!
especially since most people like me watch this for background noise after watching it normally. I totally forgot that he said that so I was super confused when I heard it again
I died after reading that...
Not gonna lie, same thought
Haha
Platinum Challenge: *Biblical names*
HeartGold Challenge: Yeah, "Fast" and "Montage" sound good
LOL.
Your first DnD character vs. your eleventh.
@@demi-femme4821 Character complexity is a very large bell curve. You start simple, get more insane over time, then give up.
To be fair gen 4 features the pokemon franchise's literal creator of the universe.
ua-cam.com/video/Ob68Zq7qGpM/v-deo.html
Alternate title: Michael yelling at slugma for 46 minutes
*Michael
902XGamer thanks
Or:
Michael refusing to praise Kenya for all it had done in this vidro.
video*
What about the other 32 seconds?
I love Heart Gold. On my first play through I decided to catch a Zubat and evolve it into Golbat to fight Morty, as it was fast, knew bite, and was immune to poison. Leveling it up wasn't easy. It fainted a lot at first and I felt bad for the little pixel bat so I would let it follow me and give it haircuts to make it happy. When it evolved into Golbat I figured I would give it a few more levels to be safe, but when it gained another level it evolved into Crobat. Made me really happy 😊
Crobat is probably one of my favourite flying/poison types Iｔｉｓ ｓｏ ｃｏｏｌｌｌ
Honestly, who needs most of the regional birds when Crobat is a very solid story mode Pokémon?
I got gastly so had no need for zubat but if you don't get gastly then zubat is another way to get mean look to catch abra for teleport.
I was using a Zubat in Legends Arceus and it died soooooo much it was so annoying but when it evolved it was overpowered since it was a level 22 Crobat
Nice to see zubat get the spotlight for once
"Why is friendship so hard!?"
I didn't expect to relate so much to Michael today.
Giving random people a ton of haircuts doesn't work for me. Weird.
You need to wait a day
Same here
“Hey bro, wanna have a haircut?”
“Okay?
The next day
“Hey bro wNna have a haIrcut?”
“no”
“Please?”
“no”
“Please?”
“FINE.”
The next day:
“NO”
Clearly real life doesn’t follow gen 2 rules. Have you tried camping or curry yet?
Friendship in Pokémon is the hardest way to evolve a Pokémon the 2nd is trade evolve when you have no friends with the game
Magnemite: Uses thunderbolt
Fast the Slugma: *Guess I’ll die*
Yep
Yee
"I narrowed my choises down to Totodile and Cyndaquill, Chikorita is not actually a choice beacuse I'm not a masochist." gets me every time.
Which is funny since Chikorita is actually a good counter to Miltank because of Reflect, Leech Seed & Bayleaf being quite bulky
I always find it funny that the one he disses is the one that might answer his problem with her Miltank.
@@gengarzilla1685 It is quite ironic.
my sister went through all of johto with only chikorita/meganium because she loved it so much
@@voxxas Nice
MandJTV: "I'm afraid of Lt. Surge, I've got nothing for electric types"
Quagsire: "I'm I a joke to you!!!"
Hes not using Quagsire as it overlaps with his starter
@@phantomnite big mistake to see quagsire as just a water pokémon. Should've seen it as a ground type
@@ShinyShilla I'm seeing it as both, but the water typing is an overlap. His ground typing doesnt matter if hes also water type
@@phantomnite It does matter since it makes no difference but an immunity to electric type like...???
@@ShinyShilla I ment it from a team building context. His water typing puts him at odds with Fraligator. You can argue for him being in due to the ground typing but with Fraligator on the squad, the outing Quagsire in will put the team in a disadvantage.
Michael: Whitney is the worst person in Pokemon
Mindy: I traded the player a Haunter with an everstone!
damm
simple... remove the everstone and trade with a friend then trade again to get the Gengar
I’m going to let the reddit fans say something about this comment
Did someone say have a friend to trade with the Haunter?
...what’s a “friend”?
they both is the worst
The sentence “I commit Grand Theft Spearow” made me laugh more than it probably should.
Same.
Same
69th like
same too
Same
Enemy pokemon: Breaths
Slugma: Aight! Ima just die now
..... What the fresh funk is that name......
@@romanxfire5thepokemondude457 idk but I respect it
@@romanxfire5thepokemondude457 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmm-
hahhaahaha
Slugma more like sugma
27:44 Mikey missed an amazing opportunity to nickname the Tyrogue "Hitmontage"
truee
💀
would’ve it have fitten in the text box
@@mrperson9838 barelt
@@mrperson9838 barelt
Michael: Okay team lets think about a mistake that happened during our playthrough
Fast: It all started when I was hatched
Damn that’s brutal but still funny
Michael: yes, yes it did
Michael: “Let’s think about success, guys! Uh, you took out Lance’s Charizard!”
"Miltank's moveset is extremely rude."
that's being GENEROUS.
Yes it is
Yeah
Yep
Also the added Scrappy in hgss is so BS
I am doing a Nuzlocke and I beat Whitney without anyone dying. I know no one asked.
"Miltank's moveset is extremely rude."
That's an insult to the extremely rude
Exactly
Be grateful it couldn't fit Defense Curl.
I take that as an insult
Justice for the "extremely rude"
It did not deserve to be used for such a demonic moveset such as Miltank's
I think there was no reason to miltank learn rollout, it could not roll fast because of its body, it should be also slower
Slugma has a Base speed of 20 and Magnemite has a base speed of 40, plus I ran the calcs the Thunderbolt had a 6.3 chance to OHKO Fast, Also Slugma has really low Special Defense and Magnemite has base 95 Special Attack Should have used Quagsire
Did u actually do ALL the calculations for damage?
@@Aikon77-k1l
Yes because I was standing up for fast the slugma, Mikey acted surprised and annoyed but it was a guarantied ohko
@@RodimusMinor1987 that's some huge dedication 👏
@@Aikon77-k1l
Yup
@@RodimusMinor1987 I respect how dedicated you are.
When you face a miltank. Me : we have you four to one. Miltank: I like those odds
Yeah... Miltank swept my team with Stomp, but I was worried about Rollout because two of my Pokémon were Flying.
Oooooooooof
Lol whitney was easy cuz i had a herracross with brick break
Nuzlocks: Hold my bear
Oof
“I commit grand theft Spearow…”
“I immediately boxed it (Shuckle), and never gave it back”
The origins of Grunty Boi
HAHA, It is I Grunty Boy!
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEE HE STEAL A SPEAROW ON 7:03
ErR0r
@@sherlockong8453 we know…
I knew someone would comment about it.
"Why is friendship so hard?"
*Everyone felt that*
What's friendship?
I don't know
JustLaughinq Friendship Is Friendship
.....!!!!!!?????
I didn't
I can only speak for myself but I liked level grinding, and I'm not saying they should remove the New EXP. Share because I find it useful for evolving Pokémon solely for their dex entries; but if they brought back the on/off option I would be very happy.
I liked giving my team one on one attention so I knew exactly what they could do and how much they could withstand.
Yeah,The X/Y and SM/USUM exp.share was the best
I'd specifically say it's better in SM/USUM since they reintroduced the "higher levels get less exp from lower levels" mechanic. XY's Exp. Share felt kinda excessive without that detail balancing it out.
Michael looking at miltank : “ disgustang “
*disgostang
DAHSTUHSTAHNG
**disgustank*
*disgustank
Once I did a heartgold playthough only using miltank named Michael before I knew about this channel😂
“I battled this young couple who’s Pokemon were an Onix and a Cloyster” Talk about innuendos we missed as kids...
Did you notice that both the onix and cloyster are both male, lol
@Parker Beaird yes lol
Billy Butcher: They’re fucking
Kimiko: *Nods in agreement*
@@thatchicksebby references to the male and female genitalia
@@thatchicksebby I only just noticed too. And I've got something like 200 in game hours...
Michael: Its over Morty, i have the Espeon
Morty: You underestimate my power
Morty's Gengar: you cant defeat me.
Espeon: I know but he can
*Michale sends out Fearow*
Kenya: Don't try it
In the original gen 2 games morty is more harder lol because of his hypnosis and dream eater combo in hgss they just nerfed him by replacing dream eater with sucker punch
Haha Star Wars
It’s over Morty! I have the high ground!
You underestimate my power!
Don’t try it
*Tries it anyway*
29:29: No one is talking about this scene that is speaking the ultimate truth.
Michael: A play through where I can’t catch any Pokémon! That sounds fu-
Fast: *n o*
Shines: *N O*
@@tunaprogamer6187 He might've been playing with Shiny Clause, we don't know.
@@wallybrown1341 he killed the shiny Gyrados so he isnt
@@tunaprogamer6187 Well the shiny Gyarados is guaranteed and required so it doesn't really feel special.
@@wallybrown1341 but is a shiny Lmao
Trainer: wants it’s shuckle to see the world
Michael: box
9999999999999 IQ
@@sacredex7136 lord of iq
Yeah shuckle!
Professor: take these poke balls an-
MandJTV: how many times do we have to teach this lesson to you old man
I still would choose Typhlosion for this sort of playthrough. Feraligatr may be pretty good itself, but Magcargo honestly weighs it down so much more than Quagsire would do for Typhlosion. 8+2 is less than 6+5, you know.
Could also use Vaporeon.
That too, but I think I'd like to get a different Eeveelution because Water/Ground is too good to pass up on.
@@gengarzilla1685 that combo is great but Quagsire itself has some issues, namely underwhelming stats and Ice Punch onky being available through the Battle Frontier after you’re already champion. If anything you could always use them both but in different roles. Plus Eevee is capable of breeding with both the Typhlosion and Ampharos lines so you could still go with another Eeveelution if you so desired.
He didn't know that when he started
"Uhm ackhsually 8+2 is 10 and 6+5 is 11"-🤓
“Why is friendship so hard?”
“These things take EONS to make”
*esp EON*
jolt EON
UMBR EON
Kyle Raven Amor i mean.. he did say “why is friendship do hard?”
So he was probably relating to an eeveelution that needs friendhip which are only sylveon,umbreon,espeon so yeh
Kyle Raven Amor OMG YES. I DO WATCH IT LOOK AT MY ICON RN ITS LITTERALLY SPEED FROM ES THE JOLTEON u know? Who was to dense to even know that a glaceon had a crush on him?
Kyle Raven Amor k thanks lel
Fast: Doesn't die
Micheal: Wait that's illegal
E c.f. tagging jj
No, he's more like "Thank goodness!"
Miltank: nooooo u can’t paralyze me,I have a lum berry
Wooliam: hehe static go brrrrrr
Should be "Static go bzzzt" though.
@@bandu2609 wtf
@@bandu2609 lay off the weed dude
@@matsushitathefifth2862 what did he say??
Whos lvl 60 mew
“Chikorita isn’t not a choice because I am not a masochist.”
Me, who chose Chikorita as my starter in my SoulSilver Nuzlocke…
He never said there was anything wrong with being a masochist...
Did you win?
Did you beat red?
@@thatguy6714 red is not included in nuzlockes. most people stop the nuzlocke after the elite 4.
@@thatguy6714 not quite there yet. Grinding up my team for Bugsy, cause only flying type I got is Hoothoot
Edit: Scyther crit out my entire team fml
Fast: **exists**
Literally everyone: *"We will watch your career with great disappointment."*
Ha lol
padme is alive
@@LewisJamieson6 Nope she dead man
@@callmelime5870 I know but give anakin something to live for
True
Webster: _I'm sure my friend must be enjoying Kenya and the mail!_
Michael: *destroys Johto and Kanto with Kenya on the team*
Underrated
Imagine if Michael returned it after Red.
"Here you go , I only evolved Kenya and beat 6 gyms and all Kanto gyms. I also beat The Elite Four and the Champion with it. Thanks!"
The real OGs return it at the end of the game, shout out to ETU
Michael: She heals it, I flinch it, I kill it, I win.
When did Michael turn into Ariana Grande
XD
Lol
No. Just no.
He be spitting fire
Pheeeeeee hahahahaha ahahahahahahaha You serious
I just realised how painful it would be it do a shiny only version of this
Smallant wants to know your location
you would be stuck with starter entire game really hard to get a shiny unless you cheat and increase shiny odds.
@@natstar7864 or keep resetting
You know, with all of the trouble Slugma caused, it might've been a good idea to just use Quagsire. Yes, it has a doubled up type weakness to Grass with Feraligatr... But that's literally their only overlapping type. And thanks to the fact that about half of the Grass types in this game are also Poison type, he has two counters for most Grass types to switch to in Fearow and Espeon.
^this. Magnemite and gang would have been a cakewalk with Quagsire.
He could use also Cyndaquil as starter :/ this video needs a remake
@@LordRemiem I did a similar run, with wild battles disabled - so no catching and no grinding. Typhlosion was a monster the first half of the game, Ampharos got me through the league, and Quagsire and Dragonite did the deed against Red (at levels 43 and 58), with all the X SpDef items and exploiting Venusaur's bad IA to setup 6 Dragon Dances.
@@LordRemiem no it does it it’s not a video were saying what is the objectively best way to beat the gang this way it’s a video about him doing your fun fucking challenge
He should have used Quagsire anyways as the water/ground typing makes it quite powerful except against grass, particularly as its attack is higher than its special attack so ground attacks are especially damaging. Having 2 water pokemon (one of which has an electric immunity) would not be a bad thing in Gen 2.
"There is no bad Pokemon only a bad trainer."
Michael: *frustated* *screaming*
@Christopher Damant I'll do you one better
Cosmog
@Christopher Damant level 500 wishiwashi (solo)
Gacug Gamer slugma
Y’all forgetting bout S u n k e r n
better lvl -10000 feebas
Micheal: Why is friendship so hard
Everybody felt that
One of MandJTV’s best videos by far in terms of length, humor, storytelling, challenge and team building
Plot twist:
He nicknamed slugma "Fast" so
"Macargo fast"
omg XD
lol
OMG LMAO
I desperately hope this was on purpose but knowing Mikey It wasnt
Gotta go fast 🏎️
Michael: Ok I want you to kill this really weak Pokemon-
Slugma: *no*
"Magcargo and Slugma are garbage most of the time."
[Garbodor] "How dare you insult me by comparing me to those weaklings?"
xD
Actually Garbodor is really good now because of the variety of attacks and a Gigantamax form
@@RayoMcQueen95990 exactly why its offended by being compared.
@@thundrr1929 Yup. It may be the Trash Heap Pokemon but it's not garbage as far as fights! Hence why it took offense to Slugma and Magcargo being called garbage
@@RayoMcQueen95990 you didn't get the joke clearly 😂
25:54
Claire: “You’re kidding, right? I’m supposed to win! I already decided!”
What a *CHILD* this woman is. Just an absolute *baby* who can’t accept the fact that something isn’t going how she wanted.
And people give Whitney grief when she cries. At least Whitney actually gives you the badge you're entitled to once she's had a moment to cool off. Clair's infinitely worse.
@@gengarzilla1685 Clair is Whitney and Jasmine combined: she whines when she loses like the former and makes you go on a fetch quest before you can get your badge like the latter.
@@gengarzilla1685 to be fair, Whitney is MUCH more irritating to battle
Ehh, she's never actually lived up to any of that hype when I battle her. I've won there with an equal levelled Quilava and Noctowl once, two Pokémon you'd think would get flattened by Rollout. No buckets full of potions or X Items either.
@@yorecf9641 At least Jasmine is friendly and is a graceful ballerina.
"Chikorita is not actually a choice, because Im not masochist"
Michael, 2020
might try this with chikorita on crystal one day
*welp* Guess I’m a masochist now
Ryan Rickman sweet. CHIKORITA GANG ASCEND
Lyn Wood 1. Chikorita does look cute 🥰
2. Masochist basically means someone who loves being in pain. It’s a form of insanity
Me: Sees a 46 Minute Vid. Also Me: We are in for one hell of a ride
More like, one “hail” of a ride
Almost an hour of Micheal
@@leviathan1225 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well I’m in Self iso so it’s something to do lol
I’m sat indoors all day bc of corona
Lesson learned.
Slugma is terrible against Pokémon they should be good at, but great against Pokémon the should be bad against.
So, if we use a Slugma/Macargo against a water type, we'll win?
@@donanasol Hell yeah, he’s clearly the best Pokémon in all of the games
@@donanasol What about a 4x super effective nidoking?
Ya know charcoal helps and you can get it before the second gym
@@suchomimustenerensis omg from the first movie my water type Pokemon but he has nidoqueen lol
I'm so addicted to your videos. Great video as usual and you're so tolerant and patient to do such challenge on the johto games. Milktank is so damn annoying but i think that having my starter 19LVLs higher kinda helped me all along my playthroughs of the johto games
My Entei almost lost to a Miltank lol in Pokémon Sun
A “Grand Theft Spearow” T-Shirt to reference this playthrough would be nice
Yep gts t shirt I need it
Y E S
Yees -v-
This video:
•90% MandjTV harassing Fast
•10% Actual content.
I mean it makes sense, Fast is so [beep] weak
That’s rude
@@pottyd77 no
its not fast is garbage
Diego Chirinos Then who tf uses ice moves
@@duxhunt Quagsire: Am i a joke to you?
*picks slugma for his team and leaves quagsire as HM slave*
Me: oh he's going to regret that.
*slugma is useless as expected and electric types stomp his team at every chance*
Me: yup, called it.
hm bearer of burden you mean
Hey, Fast is awesome
@@jerryakatony5724 Awesome material for making memes.
He could have gotten sandshrew from the game corner if he was smart
Kostis Rizos he didn’t do much research
Bayleaf is really good for Whitney! It has reflect, poison powder, synthesis, and razor leaf help to hard block. Setting up reflect and then poisoning it twice allows for you to synthesis and potion until the poison timer runs out. Bayleaf is also really bulky, so it can absorb several hits from Whitney.
But to get there you need to go through dollar store Lance the Bird Keeper and a sexy Bug catcher and we know how Meganium cannot stand against them.
Yeah but it will most likely be male, and you will have to worry about attract
@@jameshickman9325 Just reset until you don't get a male.
@@jeffreygao3956 Meganium is good against Whitney. You could catch a Geodude to go against Lance and Bugsy and take care of the issue.
@@Eevee3171 Unfortunately, Graveler needs to be traded with and who would trade with me only to immediately give the new Golem back? Also, it’s darn slow! Gyarados would hose it!
8 y/o me who couldn't throw pokeballs: *I'm four parallel dimensions ahead of you*
I'm not sure why this made me laugh so hard, but thank you
So... did you just kill the legendary? Or did you never get to that?
I was the 69th to like this comment. Nice!
@@Stink252 nice
How do you know about parallel universes if you are 8 y/o and cant even throw pokeballs?? Smh?? Im certain you dont learn about parallel universes in 2nd grade cuz im 17
Michael: stupid turtle. Squirtle’s mom: Hey. Squirtle: we are obviously squirrels.
Lol
Seems legit
Squritle:and WHAT THE F HAPPENED TO THE FLOOR
elias payton hi
There not but eh
I like to imagine that everyone makes fun of Lance and calls him a Flying-type Trainer, while he grumbles and says he’s a dragon trainer. All of his Pokèmon are flying type, after all
Same for Agatha cuz she uses more poison types than ghost
@Lyn Wood Probably because if Gyarados has the dragon type once Magikarp evolves at level 20 it would be very op, especially because Gyarados is a really good pokemon even without the dragon type.
For some reason I absolutely LOVED Magcargo as a child and to this day I'm not sure why 😂
Same with me right now lol.
Dunno why its just nice.
You love snails!
I like it too, I just wish it would get an evolution or regional form
same here but because the first Ever shiny I ever encountered (and caught) was a Shiny Magcargo caught as a Shiny Slugma
"I named him Riser as a reference to the Rising Sun."
*Imperialist Japan Intensifies*
Kimigayo anthem intensifies
"Pokémon is epic" -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@@highproteincorn yes
that's what he said
"Immobilized by love and flinched by stomp" sounds like abuse 😅
So true
Thats because it is
Why yez u r correct -v-
Nawww
Or BDSM
Whitney: (exists)
Michael: So you have chosen... *death.*
Holly Compton 😂😂😂
40:01 "and now comes the part of the game that has made me decide to never ever do a playthrough challenge of a Johto game again"
In January 2022 he did another Johto playthrough challenge on MandJTV Plays channel (Pokemon HeartGold, but I'm Team Sky)
Edit: He did the Miltank only playthrough in HeartGold when the MandJTV Plays channel reached 1M subscribers
He also banished Grunty Boi with just a "TaTa!"
When Michael posts a 46 minute video during lockdown:
"I see this as an absolute win!!
100% facts
Y E S
U used the meme wrong
@@jodesy1 I understand what you're saying, but I still used it in a humorous manner.
@@jodesy1 what? its used right lol
Michael: "I'm not using Meganium. I'm no masochist."
Filbert: "So you have chosen .... death."
Noone likes meganium so nobody cares if he insults it
@@palpatinjw Yeah, but if you pick it in GS and HGSS you give Cyndaquil to Silver. And Typhlosion is an absolutely terrifying opponent
@@uncanadien3272 Excuse me, but Chikorita is my favorite 2nd Gen starter and if you think no one likes it I recommend you watch TFS Gamings SoulSilver Nuzlocke, afterwards you will love Meganium 100% guaranteed.
Tabea Tamm did you say 2nd favourite gen 2 starter or 2nd favourite starter
@@uncanadien3272 Favorite Gen 2 starter, that's what it says right there in my comment. Totodile is a close second.
Michael: *hypes up that the run is able to be failed if he has a pokemon that can't learn a required HM*
Also Michael: *picks a starter that can learn EVERY mandatory HM*
The best part about the Primo eggs is that it feels like you're using some Winter Soldier esque activation phrase.
"What do you think of me?"
TOYS. BORED.
"Oh wow, I never thought about it like that."
DRY SKIN. ANIME.
"You know what, you're a cool guy. Have this egg."
Michael: *Releases some pretty awesome new merch*
Leon: *heavy breathing intensifies*
The most important lesson here; Slugma is worse than you think.
Also, I'm pretty sure that the Johto games are the worst for that grinding due to the awkward level curve. Playing an enhanced (hack) version of the game such as Sacred Gold or Storm Silver is so much better in this regard. You know it's bad when a so-called "difficultly" actually means less grinding.
as someone who used a slugma in oras in my swampert run i Agree alot, Hate that Snail, My manetric was a better fire type than him
Slugma/Magcargo are such early gen Pokémon. Slugma has a pathetic 250 BST and for some reason evolves at a stupid level 38. You'd think having to carry such a weak pokémon for so long would reward you with a good pokémon. But no. its BST is 410 (pre-gen 7). That BST is around a second-stage starter. The other fully-evolved Pokémon around that BST mostly evolve at levels under 20.
Magcargo should've been an evo in the early 20s at the latest. This pokémon, instead of being a fire slug that randomly shows up on grassy routes in Kanto, should've been a capture in the burned tower's basement when the pokémon are levels 14-16 or something, so you'd have to carry it for like, 10-ish levels at most.
The worst part is that out of the 160 BST boost, 80 went into a completely useless Defense stat since 3 of its weaknesses are rock, fighting and 4x ground, probably the 3 most ubiquitous physical attacking types. That also meant that 80 BST had to be spread over 5 stats, so aside from Special Defense, every stat only rises by *10.* The 40 in Spdef ofc are also wasted cuz it has a 4x weakness to water, another common type.
Please gamefreak, for the love of god give Magcargo another Evo that puts it at like 530 BST with like, a fire/steel typing or something so its defenses actually mean something.
"why is friendship so hard? "
I felt that
Your pet felt that
The whole world felt that
The entire universe felt that
I had a similar experience with Morty in my recent HeartGold playthrough. In my case, I switched in the level 1 Togepi that hatched from the egg to buy turns to heal one of my other Pokémon, then realized Gengar couldn't do anything against Togepi unless I attacked it. Eventually the Gengar ran out of PP and struggled itself to death.
I had a HootHoot and it was amazing against Gengar.
It had the ability Insomnia so the Hypnosis couldn't do anything.
It's hella disappointing how hard Morty got cucked over in the remake. Swapping that Gengar's Dream Eater for Sucker Punch turned his ace Pokémon from an actual menace to an exploitable joke.
Yeah, the fact they removed dream eater for some reason is so stupid, especially since sucker punch runs off its bad attack anyways. Like, at least give it dark pulse or something.@@gengarzilla1685
@@gengarzilla1685 gengar now being able to use special shadow ball in hgss is very spooky though, but replacing dream eater for sucker punch made normal types deal with it pretty easy yeah
THANK YOU!!! I’m tired of people saying the new exp share makes it too easy, I only play nuzlockes and them removing the grinding makes it much more enjoyable
As a person whos first Pokemon game was Pokemon Sun, I can say it was hell to level up without it
Weird that Mikey needed that much grinding tho. I don't usually need it except for the first gym, because I wipe every single trainer I see... and I saw Michael skipping some of them in this video.
You should try playing normal Pokemon.
Yup, as egoraptor stated. More time does not equal more difficult.
It makes it more enjoyable just playing the normal game too. Why do so many people think that level grinding for hours makes a game more difficult. No, it does not, it just makes it boring. If you want to make your game harder, just turn off the exp share and avoid battling wild Pokemon so you won't level up any time fast.
If only that guy gave us a houndour egg instead of slugma.
true
It would be good against morty and Jasmine.
yep, also consider that you can get Dark Pulse in Victory Road, and get Flamethrower via level up, and Sludge Bomb, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand like, roar for a final moveset?
@@suchomimustenerensis Yeah that too
@@suchomimustenerensis yeah dude houndoom would be op
Even if slugma and macargo were good it could have worked
"Ampharos is incredible and a staple in any Johto playthrough."
Cries in Crystal Virtual Console
Ikr
The only other option for an electric type is a Jolteon as of all I know.
@@DawnOnDopamine The only way to get evolution stones is for one NPC to call you. She never finds anything, trust me.
Cookie Use Raikou then
@@guilhermeviana2198 In case you didn't notice, Raikou is available slightly later in the game than Mareep.
Omg when you added eyelashes to Kenya at 9:48 was hilarious😂
"My team is terrible against electric types"
Quagsire: "Am i a joke to you?"
quagsire is his HM slave
"Yes"
@@drewisuppose hm bearer of burden you mean
Quagsire is Sunny's next team member.
ouuuuuuu Mayro Fans will be so triggered
Mikey: mentions anything that has to do with synthesis
Litterally his entire community: *pHoToSyNtHiSiS*
Slugma is named fast because it’s a funny pun
“Macargo fast”
Fast to die
My car go fast
Macargo fast
Macargo fast
Macargo faster faster
Faster faster faster
mycargo
Where did macargo
OMG why did I never think of evolving Eevee that quick! It’s so obvious!!!! Thank you for this lol
I second that to get the Eevee evolution so thank you very valuable I just picked up HeartGold today going to be my first time playing although I've beaten the second gen 2nd gen gold and silver back in the day many times.
Lance: I AM THE DRAGON MASTER!
Also Lance: *Has only 3 dragons and they are all illegal dragonites"
you meet Lance at the lake of rage force evolving his Dragonairs then he goes all hypocrite on team rocket for force evolving pokemon in the lake and destroys the machine allowing the pokemon to be force evolved
Lmao
Isn’t it possible to catch low level fully evolved Pokémon
Lv 1 gyarados in gen 5
Lv 9 salamence in gen 7
If anything he's the flying type master, I mean that's the only thing his team has in common other than being scumbag choices, and Lance the Scumbag Master just doesn't roll off the tongue that well
Yeah Ok in sun and moon it’s possible to catch lv 13 wild dragonite
Mikey: “These take EONS to make.”
Johnstone: “Am I a joke to you?”
Mah Dry Bread: "Tune in next week..."
Sead Kolludra idk how that dude does it lol.
pink grape I think it’s because 99% of his week involved the challenges since the only other videos are letsplays.
ua-cam.com/video/Ob68Zq7qGpM/v-deo.html
Zikry Shaharudin stop self promoting
well, in red's defence, he is supposed to be the STRONGEST trainer EVER.
I kinda wanted slugma to get some sort of comeback on red but he stayed useless 😅
Cynthia and Gold/Lyra/that Blue haired girl that i forgot the name,the second which canonically Defeated him:Bruh Momento confirmado
Me and competitive Pokémon players: we shall present ourselves
@@chriswentz5197 i think you mean Ethan, not Gold. And that "blue haired girl" was Kris
@@chriswentz5197 tu é BR?
40:07 then proceeds to do a Team Sky playthrough of HeartGold less than 2 years later
And then the Miltank Only Playthrough when the MandJTV plays channel reached 1M subscribers
Redemption arc
Michael: "uploads"
Me: What is it?
Michael: A Pokemon challenge.
Me: Like like like!
You should have named it Hitmontage. Such a missed opportunity.
You know there is something called name rater dude?? Idk if he exists in HGSS
@@fifteenz4249 goldenrod
Nice
Named what?
Rude
Micheal: “Oh and i also fought a couple with a Cloyster and an Onix.” Me and Micheal: “o h m y“
edit: jesus i have no clue why yall liked this LMAO
you’re like 11 max, lmaoooo
NahJ i found out why he said that, the h a r d way
RockySeeker 8330 OMG LMAOOO
Mei Jia an i oop
GivesMemesForCash i dont mean that “hard” way.. ew
Seeing how you can get a level 10 Salamance in Sun and Moon. It’s arguably rational that you can get a Dragonite that under the evolution threshold and train it.
Karen of the Pokémon League: **Exists**
Mikey: **Whistle** ᴅᴀʏᴍɴ
And she brings some dark humor
“My team can’t handle electric types well...”
*Wooper noises*
Poor wooper needed the spotlight
What the heck poor woopy boi. Also what the trick is ur name?
@@darkpretzel my name is a swear word
@@darkpretzel Woop Woop
@@darkpretzel my name is based off of joe cum.
This just reminded me that my first Dratini I got from the old man was Shiny. I was so confused why my Dratini was pink and incredibly disappointed when it evolved to Dragonite.
Dragonite's shiny should be blue
At least blue looks better than green
Me to!!
@@pacificpoke5606 I have an unpopular opinion - nothing looks better than green. Green is the best color 💚💚💚
@@Kostyurik I agree with said opinion. I like a lot of the green shinies
@@Kostyurik yeah green shinies are amazing
I started this challenge today! Just got to Goldenrod, picked up Kenya the Spearow and evolved her into Fearow, picked up an Abra from the Game Corner and evolved that into Alakazam. I also went with your strategy picked Totodile as my starter and the 3 eggs from Primo.
So far hating Slugma just like you! Thinking about grinding out some cash to get myself and early Dratini from the Game Corner and swapping Slugma out for it.
Should have gotten Cyndaquill, that way you could have avoided Slugma altogether. That may be my Quagsire bias talking though.
Michael: Why is friendship so hard?
Me: Social distancing
ha
Guys, we found a unique version of this format👏👏
Yeah..
Michael: Miltank is the hardest Pokemon battle ever.
Youngster Joey: Is my top percent ratatta a joke to you?
Yesn't
It's so OP I had to grind my chimchar
Rattata isn't a pokemon
*It's a GOD*
@Lyn Wood kkao
Michael: Why is friendship so hard!
Also Michael: *has an amazing relationship with girlfriend that was built on friendship*
I'm doing this same themed challenge run in Crystal right now. I did it with Blue Version already too. It's a fun way to try something knew on the game
Trainer: *walks into gym without fighting type* I am not scared of you!
Miltank: Then you'll die braver than most...
Or rock type
Is that a Star Wars Rebels reference?
I realy liked that line.
@@nojachi_6829 yup
MandJTV: why is friendship so hard? Me: define friendship
Edit: thank you for all the funny comments guys😁 I appreciate it.
The word friend added to the word ship
It’s a ship of two friends. Like how people ship theodd1sout and Jaiden animations together.
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"These take eons to make"
Mah-dry-bread: *Laughs in weekly challenges*
Orange-Chan ikr
The first form bug challenge took 2 weeks ;)
The new elemental monkeys challenge took 5 weeks
and mdb is more dedicated on doing this challenges his channel is all about it
@@needyty15 what does "ikr" Mean?
Mikey then: "I can't catch a drowsey to trade for machop"
Mikey now: I made the right call
For future reference: no Johto challenge is done until Red is defeated. Similarly, no Emerald challenge is done until Steven is defeated
Mike decided not to do Steven cos he's an optional fight
I agree on Johto, but I consider Steven to be a bonus fight in Emerald.
There are basically no obvious pointers leading you to Steven and no build-up towards your battle with him, so I'd say it's completely optional.
Nah, the Battle Frontier rules!
Michael: *starts talking about Whitney's Miltank*
Me, with this being my first MandJTV video: I sense bitter here.
Oh, you’re new around here? You see, we want every miltank to burn in the deepest pits of hell here.
Yeah
Right
Welcome, as you probably know we hate miltank and cast form is best boi
@@eclipseok1217 yass you correct
slugma: dies
mikey: ok thats fine maybe bad luck
slugma dies again
mikey: ummm ok im gettin a bit mad
slugma dies again
mikey: WTF SLUGMA U HAD ONE GOD DAMN JOB
edit: thx for the likes 😃
Ikr and it nearly lost to an ice type
I mean slugma is terrible
Well that sneaker was very speedy but still were all disappointed marcargo