You’re not even allowed to have a respectful negative opinion about this game. The fans will call you names and expletives and tell you to fuck off. This community has gotten so toxic and I hate it, and this is coming from someone who’s favourite game in the franchise was Inquisition
The community for this game has made it their entire identity, and have fostered a culture of toxic positivity while ironically shitting on anyone that doesn’t gobble everything up and suck off bioware. Quite frankly I’m hoping the game sucks, just to see the meltdown from the fans and how they try and cope after having shat on and crapped on people that had critiques.
@@Joel-sc2eethe game will never flop, fans still play Dragon Age 2 and it’s awfal, what you don’t understand is that the majority want the story, nobody gives a shit about NOTHING else, when people speak about the game they speak about Solas elven gods trust me the gameplay, is just a thing….
I think DA4 will the "Phantom Menace" to a lot of fans; as in the thing that disappoints and probably divides a fandom that isn't used to being very critical of their favorite fictional universe.
@@presomaleimgame What fans? The last Dragon age game came out 10 years ago, and BioWare’s utterly trashed their reputation with duds like Andromeda and Anthem. The dragon age fanbase isn’t big enough to make this game a financial success at this point. Plenty of Dragon Age fans have ditched out over the last 10 years, and there are plenty of dragon age fans like myself that couldn’t give a flying rats ass about Silas or the elven gods, generally and a lot of have just moved on. Dragon Age 2 likewise didn’t perform as well as Origins did, and thus was a flop in that regard, and that game released when BioWare was arguably at their peak. The gaming community hasn’t exactly received this game with welcome. From what I’ve seen across various social media that reception to Veilguard has been mixed, even the dragon age subreddit, with all its attempt at dismissing and not allowing too much negativity still has plenty of pessimism. I mean hell you can argue the same logic for Mass effect, that there’s too many fans that’ll support it, yet andromeda still bombed didn’t it? It underperformed. Veilguard will live and die by its reviews, and even if the reviews are positive, I’d be shocked if it manages to sell well anyway. Especially with the competition, you’ve got a new Assassins Creed, Black Myth this month, Indiana Jones, Space Marine 2, and not to mention Baldurs Gate 3 is getting its final patch that will add new content and mods.
Bg3 had its issues, particularly pacing wise and the shortened Act 3, but it had an identity of its own. I feel like I can't see that in any element of The Veilguard, but that's just me.
My biggest issue, that nobody seems to be addressing is the generic brain dead dialog. I have yet to see any of the the wit or fluidity, that oozed from all the previous games. I still listen to inquisition party banter just for a laugh once in a while. But as they say "a character can only be as smart as its writer".
The game was clearly built as an action game first and foremost. That's why the rogue's gameplay, the more action centric class, looks and seems so much better than warrior and mage. Also, I find it weird that they gave the player individual cooldowns for their skills but companions have a global cooldown.
The companion uselessness reminds me of Too Human. The regular humans accompanying Baldur were entirely useless. More of a tiny distraction than any real help.
The more I see of this game, the more depressed I become, even more so that the fandom is eating it up. I fell in love with this world through Origins, and it's very tactical gameplay. Seeing people say they always hated the combat always irked me a bit. Dragon age just didnt feel like it needed to be flashy or more based in exaggerated fantasy in it's aesthetic. It was grounded in reality and acknowledged the impending doom that was slowly swallowing the world. And now... we get this. I will always resent the fandom for wanting the series to be dumbed down more and more. This game's biggest fans ruined it for me.
The character creator is on par with DD2, but the character models don't look good. The companions are so imperative to the story that they change the name of the damn game, but they're mostly there to set up combos in combat (hopefully the story and dialogue with them shines). It's strictly single player, but looks like destiny, diablo 4, and dare I say overwatch? You have to upgrade the stores, upgrade the workbench, weapon upgrades only change percentages of elemental type damage you specialize in..... I don't really know how to feel. The things I've seen with this game that I like I really like. The things I've seen that I don't like leave such a bad taste in my mouth. But what's a long-time dragon age fan to do? I've played these games since I was 12. I've made lifelong friends bonding over these games. How could I not play it?
I don't know but everyone else but I knew 10 minutes into Dragon Age 2 that the series was not going in a good direction. Dragon Age 2 came out a year after Mass Effect 2. Some kind of EA mind virus definitely infected BioWare after Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 released.
@@Anna-B I found the writing, plot and themes in DA2 to be pretty good. But it couldn't overtake the rushed production with copy/pasta environments, bad enemy design, lackluster skilltrees and a hillariously goofy villain boss fight at the end.
@@rhodan74 Yeah that's the biggest shame with DA2. The rushed production schedule. I wonder what they would've ended up making if EA hadn't forced them to pump out a game within essentially a year. I know they wanted to do something more akin to Inquisition with DA2 but that was too ambitious given the production schedule they were given. Though in hindsight DA2 serves well as a bridge in the overall story to lead to Inquisition at least. I personally liked Hawke a lot and she ended up as my most tragic character through my original gameplays of the three games.
Meh origins is overrated and this is coming from someone who has spent at least a thousand hours in the game. It was great for the time, but has not aged well at all.
@@raz3rkun Idk man, I replayed all the games recently after not having done a full playthrough of the series in 6 years. DA:O surprised me when I replayed it. That game really does have soul to it. Made me remember why I loved it in the first place. Massive amounts of consequential quest choices and dialogue with very well written characters in that game. And you actually HAVE to use tactics, positioning, and team specs on Normal or higher difficulty. Very solid RPG.
I've played Black Desert Online (BDO) I can handle anything fast paced on keyboard, so I don't mind.😆 But jokes aside, yes this is fully fast-paced action game no matter how much they try to sell it as a tactical focused RPG. Everything seems predicated on combos and if you don't combo then it seems like your companions do tickle damage which is a pain in ass. The newest IGN gameplay really did make me feel that I was looking at an MMORPG as you said. But it makes sense as you described given context. They also said they'd show high-level PC and controller gameplay, but everything has been controller so far. I also agree with the take of every character model being so extremely smooth with no facial textures or ruggedness that was prevalent in Inquisition for example. It's... not great. - The saddest part is that the primary marketing campaign so far has been three things: Dating sim, Character Creator, and trying to convince people that there is still slower-paced tactical combat available for players who enjoyed it in the past. I really really hope they live up to the way they've tried to say that Thedas will be alive and the world feeling exciting. Because with all the footage so far, the environment looks pretty but the world *feels* dull. But we'll have to wait and see for that, I guess.
Yeah.... nope not for me. Greedfall and a second play through of Forbidden West will see me through till Avowed gets released. Hell, waaay more excited for Lego Horizon than this mess. The problem is Bioware have had no grand vision for the games over the years. There is literally nothing connecting the games except the names... Pity about that.
When it was 'Dreadwolf' God Of War style combat heavily influenced the dev team. Not one piece of footage has been shown using mouse and keyboard, PlayStation or Xbox controller only. This is 110% a controller game.
It is a bit disappointing that they've been flaunting on how much they worked on trying to get the PC version right , but we haven't seen the PC interface like at all and they showcased over 1hour of footage already. Because of this a lot of red flags are blaring in my head. The character models don't look that good from that Mage showcase trailer. Maybe it's the engine, but after seeing BG3 it's hard not to compare and DATV has been in development for way longer. Guess we can infer what their priorities were, which is a bit funny given that they said how much this game is about your party members and companions and they made most of them not appealing to look at (imo).
I just can't get over the esthetics of the game. It just looks so juvenile, and made for pre teens. Why make such goofy, infantile characters and creatures that is obviously made to appeal to a younger audience? Throw in what is supposed to mature content and the whole thing just gives me the ick factor.
@@Grogeous_Maximusright? It's like they grabbed a bunch of happy, bright Pixar designs and stuck them in a dark, threatening world. I really have no desire to see Pixar characters have nude scenes or be in life threatening situations. It just feels like 2 different worlds, and is really off putting.
Same. They played with some designs a tiny bit in the previous games, but this is such a massive leap into stylization that it kills the tone completely. Hideous.
The game looks aggressively mediocre in nearly every aspect. The roleplaying won’t reach the heights of games like Baldur’s Gate 3. They’ve already shown way too much auto-dialogue for rook, and the fact that Rook attempts to save someone without any player input makes me think it’s an Andromeda 2.0 situation where a your a preset personality like Ryder was. The combat looks bland and boring, and like a lazy mix of FF7 Remake and the newer AC games without any of the depth of either. The artstyle is just trash, characters look like clay, the Darkspawn look like a bunch of goofy ass goobers, and the demons have been reduced to some weird ass neon shades. I mean they LITERALLY highlighted a shitty fetch quest as one of the ‘handcrafted’ pieces of content. How out of touch are these devs? Inquisition’s number 1 critique was its shitty open world filled with fetch quest, and andromeda copped that complaint too. Yet these muppets thought it was a good idea to show off a shitty fetch quest in their marketing for their newest game was a good idea? Jesus Christ.
Yet another case where the "men in suits" determine what the game will be like, transforming an excellent franchise into something completely different, with changes that NO fan asked for. Usually with the excuse that it's to "attract a new audience", but then why don't they just create a new IP? It's a HUGE lack of respect to take a CRPG and transform it into an Action-RPG focused on consoles... The game may still be good but really, why risk everything like that? Why not innovate in gameplay while still remaining within the CRPG genre? That's sad.
You know what, I think I've finally pinpointed what game this is giving me the same vibes as, and why it's giving me such a forboding feeling about how this game will perform. Dragon Age: The Veilguard, reminds me of Darksiders 3...
lets hope thats one of the things they decide to keep for the next game this time, and not just change it all up yet again for whatever reason. Long flowy hair should be a standard
The visual still looks very off for me. Like it's not Dragon Age. I know this is a new area, I know it's not supposed to be always dark but...somehow Inquisition graphics looked better and in line with DAO and DA2, just had the better technology to create. Veilguard though...it's like they pivot to Fortnite, Overwatch or more popular game art style.
Very good video, well put together points. Most of DA V analysis videos that i’ve seen have lacked exposing the real problems and real upsides. And also elucidating the things that are really a matter of taste, which you did very concisely. Btw, I also dig Slandered’s content, he’s awsome. Anyway, Nice vid 🤙
I am definitely watching your review of the game before making the decision to buy this Dragon age. Please cover the companions in terms of gameplay, depth, and aesthetics compared to the previous games, if possible.
I’m convinced that the only reason they even bother with a party in this is because there would be a bigger backlash if they got rid of it altogether. But the combat in particular looks like it’s begging to be a solo combat game.
I think it was more than likely just aimed to being mass effect. The gameplay looks very, very similar to Andromeda or Mass Effect 3. You always have a party but cannot directly control them in those games.
It looks like Darksiders 2. I am surprised nobody else sees it, the visual style is basically the same, Caretaker in particular just screams ''lame Vulgrim''.
It looks horrible to me. The art style clashes with the tone of DA so badly, it reads like Disney or like a superhero game, even the UI and flash or substance combat, the first thing the game reminds me of is Gotham Knights. I don't understand why every RPG series is pushing more and more into this tired hack and slash territory. Just like Final Fantasy, it really doesn't make sense because the action ones are the least popular. DA2 is the least popular one but they leaned into it even more and will now act surprised that a huge amount of fans hate it.
10 years after its predecessor and yet it become much more worse And they gonna charge this half baked thing they called a full game more pricey than its predecessor
Spell&Shield, I very much appreciate your neutrality regarding this game. I agree with your Reaper sentiment, it’s either that or Slayer for me! 😁 I’ll not lie, I’m a born and bred console player; some of my first memories involve playing the Atari 2600 with my parents (holy crap, I’m old! 😱). NES, SNES, all the PlayStation incarnations, XBOX and 360? Ran on them all. That being said, I’m hoping in the name of everything holy that the PC and console experiences are both fulfilling. I’d much rather see everyone happy as opposed to PC or console users getting screwed over. Let’s see if BioWare grants my wish!
With the exception of the qunari, I don't actually mind the appearance of the character models, particularly in cutscenes, but I will admit that a good amount of the animations feel fairly wooden.
Confusion is relative, and it can be a good thing for people that do not want to be spoon fed. Sadly there are less and less of those around. Remember. This is a computer game. That is all. It is not a "test" or guide to the survival of humanity.
As a DA fan who was obsessed with DA:Origins for years, I can play with new art style. This Arcane/Dishonored style could be tasteful. I can see why people enjoy action RPG. And I have an Xbox One controller for my PC. Progression tree is almost like the Path of Exile, which could be fun. But as for characters. I don’t know if I would… find someone like Alistair, or Varric, or Iron Bull. I would give it a try to see if it has an immersive world, but after playing Baldur’s Gate 3, I don’t think that anyone could make something better
It looks... generic and bland, to say the least, not only in the visual design, but also the skill trees/abilities/inventory system seem to be just copy and paste work from a gazillion other games. And while they dont have to reinvent the wheel, it does feel like this game has no soul of its own. I might be wrong though; these are just my initial impressions of the gameplay footage/trailers I have watched. I am going to wait till reviews before I pass my final judgement, but I think this wont be a game for a DA:Origin fan like me. Edit: Also, all of their good writing staff already left the studio ages ago, so I am not holding much hope for a decent story.
I always appreciate your take. Your takes seem just realistic and fair. Some of these other creators just crap on the game, but worse are those who shall not be named who rationalize every decision, praise every change, then dismiss any criticism
Honestly the entire game feels like it d&d 5e and not dragon age. Feels like who ever was in charge just wanted a d&d 5e game and just sprinkled in the dragon age cause they had to.
That would be fine with me if they had D&D gameplay. But mixing those formulas won't do it for me. They went in the completely wrong direction with this one. Art direction looks awful as well. None of the others had great art direction in my opinion, but they at least had a vibe.
I maintain that even by action game metrics, the game seems uninspired and derivative at best. Mediocre hodgepodge of bamham/modern God of War with none of the context that makes those games popular.
Right? Assassins Creed Odyssey gave players 8 melee based abilities to use, and 4 ranged abilities in addition to your parry, dodge, ultimate, and heavy/light attacks AND in addition you could stealth as well, and that game came out 6 years ago. Likewise FF7 remake has parry, dodge, heavy + light attacks, full control of companions who have their own fighting styles, and the ability to choose from countless abilities while hot keying 4 and that’s not even going into all the depth added by the sequel as well that came out this year. Meanwhile Veilguard has removed companion control and their effectiveness in combat, gimped the player to 3-4 abilities, and the actual combat looks bland and uninspired.
That you can´t play as the companions sucks, what if you 10 hours in want to play another class? in the other games controlling the companions let me play around with all the different play styles. If i made my main a warrior and didn´t like it, no problem just control one of the mages in my part instead.
Your videos on this topic have helped me reach the final stage of grief. I wish hey had used any other IP. I won't be purchasing, playing or watching others play this game.
ikr I'm so disappointed but I saw it coming and i just pretending it was somehow gonna be different or good, I'm still gonna buy it, almost like I need to just to see how they massacred my fav franchise.
Woohoo!! I'm not the only stubborn "I'm not using controller" player!! I feel seen!! 😅 Yeah I think I might have commented the same to your last vid. It's giving me really strong Division 2/AC:O/God of War/Diablo 4 vibes. Not that they are bad games... I enjoyed all of them... for about 40 hours. The prob is, I LOVED DA:O, DOS:2 and BG3, and played THOSE games for THOUSANDS of hours. It probably won't be a *terrible* game on the whole, but it's sure as hell not likely to be another game I can happily get lost in for hundreds of hours per playthrough. It's definitely not going to be a game that has comfortable keyboard controls.
Is the average height of Thedas is now below 160cm? Characters don't look good doesn't help they also feel like they are shorties all around. The elf opening a chest felt like a half-ling.
I want to like this game and i want to play this game. but all the negative things everyone is talking about can probably be fixed with PC mods but that won't help anyone playing on consoles.
The itemizations is very arpg Diablo/PoE or looter shooter MMO'esque, the combat is not, it's a lot more like spiderman/arkham/GoW. And obviously it has been developed a 100% for console and just ported to PC. I also agree at this point after watching that Qunari abomination that the character creator is not going to be as good as they claim, it's just going to have a lot of option nobody is going to use like vitiligo and having one eye looking inwards or bloodshot eyes,etc. If the CC was as robust as they claim they would to the same as Dragons Dogma 2 and InZoi and just release a CC Demo, it's free marketing with explosive word of mouth.
The IGN showing was terrible. The recent rogue showing was a lot better, i love action combat so that isn’t an issue for me. But i am getting major Andromeda vibes. Fun combat, great looking environments everything else was bad. I think it’ll be much the same for Veilguard.
I’m actually enjoying the reveals and I understand why some people would be disappointed. I also thought the mage gameplay was uninteresting compared to the warrior gameplay, but the rogue gameplay has really sold me on purchasing this game. I like the art style, although some of the facial animations are concerning because they look so stiff especially the npcs, and I have hope that this game is going to be good. I’m pretty hyped for the release.
Dragon age is an adult game, this thing looks like a kid game in terms of graphic. Who made this choice after Inquisition....must really hate Dragon Age. But I could play Dragon Age Origins even without a great graphic, so let's forget this old graphic is not really the result of 10 years of advanced development but a cheap recycling of Mass Effect Andromeda graphic engine. Then this videos shows how the game play is more and more action (really no effort to bring in something more evolved), fine I can stick with it, combos where a secret battle result mixing the skills in Dragon age Origins, nice to see it back.....but, could anyone help me to understand in the videos I have seen, how this action game should work. With the player forced all the time to stop the game to open the skills wheel interrupting the action, the main core of the game, for what reason, to make an action game pathetically look like a turn based strategic game? This will kill the action flow and make all look frankly like a big mess. Does anyone know if it possible to skip this stupid interface to make the things work automatically during the battle with no need to use this will and kill the flow? I hope there is a way otherwise this game will be ridiculous to play. Sorry to say but they now want 60 euro for a game with an old graphic, a mixed game play system does not satisfy the needs of an action or a turn based style, the only reason at the end left to play this game looks like is the story.....After seeing the Kunaris violated graphically, I hope at least the story will be fine, and things to do will be interesting, but with that messed up fighting system.....huh please tell me it can be avoided for PC....
I believe they said you can keymap skills to avoid using the wheel, but I'm not sure if that works for your companions skills too. And i have no idea if you can see the cooldown for their skills and command them to attack a specific enemy without opening the wheel. Maybe you can set some tactics and let their ai do all the work, but they seemed to do very little damage with their auto attacks in the trailers released so far (and the last two were high level combat so it would seem companions are there only for combos when it comes to combat).
I'm not liking it at all. The unnecessary change in art style, the faces, the fast-paced ARPG combat, not controlling your companions, the politics involved... It is a mess. I expected nothing from Bioware and got disappointed anyway.
Simple…just don’t play it. What were you expecting, it was NEVER going to go back to the origins style. If you had low expectations, you never really wanted to play it to begin with, and that’s absolutely fine! There are so many games out there don’t waste time on ones you don’t like.
@@raz3rkun As the guy above me is saying, some of us have bought all three previous games, expansions, books and only subscribed to Netflix to see the anime. Why do you feel, that we don't get voice our opinion?
I'm very sorry if for you the fact that the game isn't optimized for mouse and keyboard is a dealbreaker, because this game was definitely designed only for controllers, just by looking at the game I can say that it's noticeable. I say this game will be mediocre at best.
I wouldn't say that MMO combat is that popular that I imagine Bioware trying to jump on that "trend"....what this reminds me of somehow is Cyberpunk before its big rework. You had dozens of useless perks/skills ala "+5% damage if the wind blowing from the east", "after reloading gain buff xyz for 5 seconds". CDPR saw that this is just boring bloat and removed all of it for more impactful perks that change your playstyle. About controller/kb+m....I would say kb+m has a significant advantage as you can keybind you companions' skills and therefore play w/o pausing.
quote - "this is not the end of the world". Actually this IS the end of any desire I have to play the game. A whole raft of very bad decisions by the devs because Bioware thought it knew better than the fans. If I wanted an action game I'd play Elden Ring. I don't want a Disneyesque action game where my companions are ineffective and the RPG part and depth of combat are all on the cutting room floor. It's too late to change stuff now and has been probably been too late for years. The only thing left is to watch this car crash in slow motion.
The combat and visuals remind me a lot of Mass Effect Andromeda. The companions in that game didn't do anything either. The play dough character model vibe is also quite similar.
I can only say that should this be the first DA game I don't buy, it will be for the flashy, super-fast, over-the-top combat. I can live with characters who just look serviceable (and I don't think they look that bad in the first place, honestly), environment aesthetics that look good but don't capture the feel of the setting, subpar character creators and I'm even somewhat tolerant of bugs as long as they aren't game-breaking. But this style of combat....I just hate it. And that it reminds me of DA2 makes things worse. I hated the combat in that game so much that on subsequent playthroughs I did to explore roleplaying options, I chose easy difficulty and added a damage reduction mod on top of it, just because I wanted combat to be over faster and preferably with no input from me at all.
The reveals looked ok to me. Yes the qunari rook looks dumb. But thats a character creation. There are better looking qunari in the newer video just released. I noticed some animation issues too. But honestly, I never played Bioware for their visuals or combat systems. I like the characters and lore and choices and consequences. I play Bioware for the writing. And the writers on this one are vets from the original DA and ME and BG games. I can only decide how much i like/dislike this game when I've played it and experienced the story and how much I can influence the world by my choices. The rest just doesnt matter to me. What matters to each of you will be different. But if the direction of this DA is making you unhappy, then please find something that excites you. Or replay BG3.
I disagree with your controller sentiments, but I still agree if this game is only a twitchy combo buttom mashing mesh, I'll hate it. Baldur's Gate 3 is a game I still play, despite knowing the story and characters. The gameplay was solid and makes me think. Thats how you do a modern Triple A big budget crpg. Also, i got to be honest, yeah the facial animations and some character designs in the Mass Effect trilogy might be dated, but the games released on Xbox 360 and Ps3 well over a decade ago. Thats not an excuse for terrible models. And if we're gonna go there, Femshep is still one of the most attractive video game chaarcters, and broshep is a decent looking dude. I have trouble even finding one appealing design so far.
Same here for controls. If a game is optimized for the controller but plays poorly with a mouse and keyboard, I am out. I also don't really see the point behind a party-action RPG where your teammates need constant attention to do some damage. We had that in Mass Effect and in the end, the teammates were just carriers for additional abilities you could call upon. Party combat in single-player is better suited for turn-based games where you have time to take control of your team members.
I’m not so worried about the art style or the faces anymore, now what bugs me is the jank. Now BioWare games have always had jank, but because of how vibrant the art style and graphics are and the 60 fps, they stand way more in combat. The running animation is so wooden, looks like you’re running on ice, and the transition from running to walking is very abrupt. Don’t even get me started on ALL of the effects, it looks like there’s whole frames missing. This game is not finished lol. I’m still gonna buy it but damn is this really the best they can do
thank you for the video. I don't know how to move that fast in a game with a mouse and keyboard. I have a pac man game with no option for a controller and it's really difficult to get used to. I used to get to like 10 levels easy on pac man. however, with mouse and keyboard, I get to around level 3.
The companions can't even take damage, they can't die. Notice they have no HP bars, no defense stat, no armor stats on their gear. Ally Mages and Rogues healing action is single target only works on Rook. They're just battle minions that do chip damage and combo starters.
This is what happens when you layoff all your talented character designers and you think you can just bypass them using AI or an in-game character creator.
'They have moved on almost entirely from the original RPG formula'. I don't get that complaint. Dragon Age has been action focused since DA2. There's literally nothing surprising about this.
The combat was designed around rogue or first rogue the best. The other class are going to worst to play and fundamentally don’t fit the action combat they’re going for. At least with the design they went for. Kingdom of amalur has better combat that games and that came out 11 years ago even then the combat got repetitive after a while.
The more information that release for The veil guard the more it gives off the vibe of a really bad mobile game that's also a crappy MMO. At this point it just feels like it should have been a whole different IP
I can play fast-paced but not fond of it much & easy to get bored. I can like leveling up my sets but definitely not for the other's because it's like homework to me when farm resources for too much pp. And romance with kind of these companion's looks... it just shut me down completely, that'll make them less interesting to care for or talking to. This kind of game which I can only enjoy if just only 1 main character bc I feel companions is useless
While my stance on controllers is not as hard as yours, I do get it. I'm very interested on how it plays without one too. My current one started getting... I think it's called "stick drift"...... within a year.... 😒
I didn't have to revise anything. No brag, just fact. The reveal trailer was just garbage marketing. I knew it wouldn't be indicative of the gameplay. It was just a terrible ad. As for the demo, I called out everything wrong with it, from the PS2 era graphics, to the bad storyline, to the Inquisitor's absence. The trailer after that is the one BioWare should have led with, but the story is still bad. The warrior combat was too flashy and had bugs. The mage demo further confirmed that player choice has gone out the window, as Rook speaks for the player much more than the player gets to select dialogue options. The deep dive is also awful that shows how we once again can't switch abilities during combat, even while the ability slots have been cut in half from 8 to 3 + 1. And I agree this looks like an MMO system, especially the duplicate item being merged into the existing item to power it up. Also, the companions don't take damage, and you don't have to worry about healing them. There is no strategy to this.
Regarding the facial animations, I think it's worth remembering that Inquisition faced a lot of criticism for having a zoomed-out camera during most conversations and it sounds like they tried to move away from that for this game by having everything be up-close. Given that the animations in the actual cinematics looked a lot better, this might just be a matter of it not being technically feasible to have fully motion-captured animations for every single character interaction. Which was probably why they did the zoomed-out camera in Inquisition in the first place.
Personally I’m excited this is the kind of game I like. The only thing I don’t like is the toning down of inventory and item management in comparison to other RPGs.
My biggest issue so far is the party members A.I. in theses game play they pause too much so U can’t tell if you’re so called members are really doing anything or they just useless!!!! meaning can they heal or throw bombs or do anything.
I don't like it at all. The game is somehow even worse than DA: Inqusition when it comes to combat. Game doesn't look like Dragon Age. DA:V looks like a Tencent mobile game. I won't buy it.
I thought the emphasis on Combos was just a copy of Mass Effect Andromeda. Not necessarily bad, but i do hope that i can make a simple pure damage and armor build without any additional enchantments.
I was shocked that a lot of people didn't seem to care it looks like a MMO, and i guess that's the target audience, they didn't seem to care and obviously don't care about the franchise and pretend they are fans, only that they're not, they only seem to care what this games means for ME5 and not dark fantasy like Dragon age. I'm going to buy this game because I love DA, I know that this game is going to disappoint me, but I'm not shocked as I knew that the game was going to be online and they changed everything from RPG to online to "rpg" again, I guess now its just a reality for the game, I do not like the flashy MMO, saturated, bs on the screen, and its AGAIN confused about its identity and I hope above all, that the main story is relatively interesting and has emotional stakes, but I'm not holding my breathe. The thing that bugs me the most, is people pretending this is ok and acceptable, online and some UA-cam channels that'll except anything, I'm grateful your not one of those youtubers, I at least know you'll say how it is and not just accept any old crap from companies that fail, again I cant understand why people defend them, delusional. great video 👍
People have different opinions.... people are boasting that Origins was some Masterpiece to others it was an ugly game with a good story and bad combat. Is that's valid? Well yeah it can be A lot of people are going off about it looking like a Cartoon but it's really just a different style just like 2 or Inquisition People like different things and pretending that there not fans because they don't agree with your assessment is pretty shit What your seeing is called nuance
@@demonking-zm3rsSpot on I played Deagon Age since origins and been a fan ever since and to me Vailguard looks really good and I am excited for it. People just don't want innovation.
Just because they have a different opinion doesn't mean they aren't true fans. Just makes tou look like you wanna dog on it her people and crown yourself as an ultimate fan.
It looks like a mobile rpg. Not as button mashy but still looks close. Also do NOT play da2 it is the biggest waste of time. The most halfassed game ive played in years even anthem outshines da2 for variety
I find it funny (and actually understandable) how opinions about this game are so divisive. You watch UA-camrs like Jackdaw and the opinions are high praises only, and yes Jackdaw is basically a Dragon Age channel so there’s bias but then you watch none other than Fextralife and says how looking forward he is to playing this game, particularly the combat. Then there are UA-camrs like Luke Stephens who are skeptically optimistic who try to walk a middle ground leaning to optimism, opposite I’d say to Spell&Shield who feels to me skeptically pessimistic trying to keep it rational leaning to pessimism and finally there are UA-camrs on the complete negative side and some even hate. I find all of these are fair, some people just love DA with a passion and are willing to open their arms to DAV for whatever it is now, some are just waiting for release to actually find out then, some just are too frustrated about this not being like DAO. Whatever the case BioWare’s recent products haven’t given reason to anyone to trust and the recent marketing shows the game is not for everyone. I believe when the game comes out we will see some review scores and they’ll be (to whatever side of the spectrum) just numbers. This will be one of those games that in one or two years each camp will say “I messed up when I reviewed, after the euphoria of October 2024 I can say the game is better/worse than I gave it credit”
Lord Medina, thank you for the comment; I think one thing you stated is most important, namely that BW's recent releases have done nothing to instill confidence in their current product. Two huge failures so what can one say and do? Developers can only be given so many chances until some skepticism becomes warranted. I do think your characterisation of my position is accurate however and I appreciate that.
I liked what i saw, is like God of War the RPG. There seems to be tons of deep customization and builds. Well is obviously an action rpg, there are things that will work differently from your typical turn based rpg.
You’re not even allowed to have a respectful negative opinion about this game. The fans will call you names and expletives and tell you to fuck off. This community has gotten so toxic and I hate it, and this is coming from someone who’s favourite game in the franchise was Inquisition
The community for this game has made it their entire identity, and have fostered a culture of toxic positivity while ironically shitting on anyone that doesn’t gobble everything up and suck off bioware.
Quite frankly I’m hoping the game sucks, just to see the meltdown from the fans and how they try and cope after having shat on and crapped on people that had critiques.
Idk I've seen plenty of people on the other get super toxic and make Origins their entire personality.
@@Joel-sc2eethe game will never flop, fans still play Dragon Age 2 and it’s awfal, what you don’t understand is that the majority want the story, nobody gives a shit about NOTHING else, when people speak about the game they speak about Solas elven gods trust me the gameplay, is just a thing….
I think DA4 will the "Phantom Menace" to a lot of fans; as in the thing that disappoints and probably divides a fandom that isn't used to being very critical of their favorite fictional universe.
@@presomaleimgame What fans? The last Dragon age game came out 10 years ago, and BioWare’s utterly trashed their reputation with duds like Andromeda and Anthem.
The dragon age fanbase isn’t big enough to make this game a financial success at this point. Plenty of Dragon Age fans have ditched out over the last 10 years, and there are plenty of dragon age fans like myself that couldn’t give a flying rats ass about Silas or the elven gods, generally and a lot of have just moved on.
Dragon Age 2 likewise didn’t perform as well as Origins did, and thus was a flop in that regard, and that game released when BioWare was arguably at their peak.
The gaming community hasn’t exactly received this game with welcome. From what I’ve seen across various social media that reception to Veilguard has been mixed, even the dragon age subreddit, with all its attempt at dismissing and not allowing too much negativity still has plenty of pessimism.
I mean hell you can argue the same logic for Mass effect, that there’s too many fans that’ll support it, yet andromeda still bombed didn’t it? It underperformed.
Veilguard will live and die by its reviews, and even if the reviews are positive, I’d be shocked if it manages to sell well anyway.
Especially with the competition, you’ve got a new Assassins Creed, Black Myth this month, Indiana Jones, Space Marine 2, and not to mention Baldurs Gate 3 is getting its final patch that will add new content and mods.
Ironic that their bid to appeal to the mainstream only made it boring. And that BG3's faith to its origins made it mainstream and GOTY😂
Bg3 had its issues, particularly pacing wise and the shortened Act 3, but it had an identity of its own. I feel like I can't see that in any element of The Veilguard, but that's just me.
@@kkkk-uh1cu I definitely felt act3's pacing problem, but still leagues better imo than this "new" DA game
Funnily enough, BG3 was once called "not Baldur's Gate" or that it's Divinity Original Sin 3 but with the Baldur's Gate name before release.
@@khoavo510 Theyre def similar, but I thought DND fans liked Divinity original sin2.
You can clearly see the legacy of, "Anthem with dragons."
Dragon Age: Do You Guys Not Have Phones
Well..after 10 years another 2 months isn't going to do shit for this game.
My biggest issue, that nobody seems to be addressing is the generic brain dead dialog. I have yet to see any of the the wit or fluidity, that oozed from all the previous games. I still listen to inquisition party banter just for a laugh once in a while. But as they say "a character can only be as smart as its writer".
The game was clearly built as an action game first and foremost. That's why the rogue's gameplay, the more action centric class, looks and seems so much better than warrior and mage. Also, I find it weird that they gave the player individual cooldowns for their skills but companions have a global cooldown.
Yup, they just ported all this stuff from the MMO; you said the skeleton is MMO but a lot of the organs are too!
The companion uselessness reminds me of Too Human. The regular humans accompanying Baldur were entirely useless. More of a tiny distraction than any real help.
The rune setup is similar too.
The more I see of this game, the more depressed I become, even more so that the fandom is eating it up. I fell in love with this world through Origins, and it's very tactical gameplay. Seeing people say they always hated the combat always irked me a bit. Dragon age just didnt feel like it needed to be flashy or more based in exaggerated fantasy in it's aesthetic. It was grounded in reality and acknowledged the impending doom that was slowly swallowing the world. And now... we get this. I will always resent the fandom for wanting the series to be dumbed down more and more. This game's biggest fans ruined it for me.
One for the "modern audience" but not for me
They wont come. Because they simply not exists. Concred, dustborn, the new stars wars. They all failed.
The character creator is on par with DD2, but the character models don't look good. The companions are so imperative to the story that they change the name of the damn game, but they're mostly there to set up combos in combat (hopefully the story and dialogue with them shines). It's strictly single player, but looks like destiny, diablo 4, and dare I say overwatch? You have to upgrade the stores, upgrade the workbench, weapon upgrades only change percentages of elemental type damage you specialize in..... I don't really know how to feel. The things I've seen with this game that I like I really like. The things I've seen that I don't like leave such a bad taste in my mouth. But what's a long-time dragon age fan to do? I've played these games since I was 12. I've made lifelong friends bonding over these games. How could I not play it?
I don't know but everyone else but I knew 10 minutes into Dragon Age 2 that the series was not going in a good direction.
Dragon Age 2 came out a year after Mass Effect 2. Some kind of EA mind virus definitely infected BioWare after Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 released.
I actually really liked 2…
@@Anna-B I found the writing, plot and themes in DA2 to be pretty good. But it couldn't overtake the rushed production with copy/pasta environments, bad enemy design, lackluster skilltrees and a hillariously goofy villain boss fight at the end.
@@rhodan74 Yeah that's the biggest shame with DA2. The rushed production schedule. I wonder what they would've ended up making if EA hadn't forced them to pump out a game within essentially a year. I know they wanted to do something more akin to Inquisition with DA2 but that was too ambitious given the production schedule they were given. Though in hindsight DA2 serves well as a bridge in the overall story to lead to Inquisition at least. I personally liked Hawke a lot and she ended up as my most tragic character through my original gameplays of the three games.
@@rhodan74 They made that game in less than a year, it's amazing that we got as much as we did.
This game makes dragon age origin look like a very advance game.
that is the point. they got rid of all of the competant people.
Meh origins is overrated and this is coming from someone who has spent at least a thousand hours in the game. It was great for the time, but has not aged well at all.
@@raz3rkunwholeheartedly disagree
@@raz3rkunI am playing Origins right now, and I totally disagree with you.
@@raz3rkun Idk man, I replayed all the games recently after not having done a full playthrough of the series in 6 years. DA:O surprised me when I replayed it. That game really does have soul to it. Made me remember why I loved it in the first place. Massive amounts of consequential quest choices and dialogue with very well written characters in that game. And you actually HAVE to use tactics, positioning, and team specs on Normal or higher difficulty. Very solid RPG.
I've played Black Desert Online (BDO) I can handle anything fast paced on keyboard, so I don't mind.😆
But jokes aside, yes this is fully fast-paced action game no matter how much they try to sell it as a tactical focused RPG. Everything seems predicated on combos and if you don't combo then it seems like your companions do tickle damage which is a pain in ass. The newest IGN gameplay really did make me feel that I was looking at an MMORPG as you said. But it makes sense as you described given context. They also said they'd show high-level PC and controller gameplay, but everything has been controller so far. I also agree with the take of every character model being so extremely smooth with no facial textures or ruggedness that was prevalent in Inquisition for example. It's... not great.
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The saddest part is that the primary marketing campaign so far has been three things: Dating sim, Character Creator, and trying to convince people that there is still slower-paced tactical combat available for players who enjoyed it in the past. I really really hope they live up to the way they've tried to say that Thedas will be alive and the world feeling exciting. Because with all the footage so far, the environment looks pretty but the world *feels* dull. But we'll have to wait and see for that, I guess.
Yeah.... nope not for me. Greedfall and a second play through of Forbidden West will see me through till Avowed gets released. Hell, waaay more excited for Lego Horizon than this mess. The problem is Bioware have had no grand vision for the games over the years. There is literally nothing connecting the games except the names... Pity about that.
When it was 'Dreadwolf' God Of War style combat heavily influenced the dev team. Not one piece of footage has been shown using mouse and keyboard, PlayStation or Xbox controller only. This is 110% a controller game.
Nope you can use Keyboard & Mouse if you played a lot of Console Ports.
@@mattstansbeary3068you can, but it's made for controller in mind.
@@mattstansbeary3068 "You can use K&M if..." doesn't sound reassuring tbh
its reminds me more of mobile game lol
@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou lol Dragon RAID: Veilguard Legends
It is a bit disappointing that they've been flaunting on how much they worked on trying to get the PC version right , but we haven't seen the PC interface like at all and they showcased over 1hour of footage already. Because of this a lot of red flags are blaring in my head.
The character models don't look that good from that Mage showcase trailer. Maybe it's the engine, but after seeing BG3 it's hard not to compare and DATV has been in development for way longer. Guess we can infer what their priorities were, which is a bit funny given that they said how much this game is about your party members and companions and they made most of them not appealing to look at (imo).
I just can't get over the esthetics of the game. It just looks so juvenile, and made for pre teens. Why make such goofy, infantile characters and creatures that is obviously made to appeal to a younger audience? Throw in what is supposed to mature content and the whole thing just gives me the ick factor.
All the while the game is clearly the darkest DA game thematically.
Tonal whiplash.
@@Grogeous_Maximusright? It's like they grabbed a bunch of happy, bright Pixar designs and stuck them in a dark, threatening world. I really have no desire to see Pixar characters have nude scenes or be in life threatening situations. It just feels like 2 different worlds, and is really off putting.
Same. They played with some designs a tiny bit in the previous games, but this is such a massive leap into stylization that it kills the tone completely. Hideous.
The game looks aggressively mediocre in nearly every aspect.
The roleplaying won’t reach the heights of games like Baldur’s Gate 3. They’ve already shown way too much auto-dialogue for rook, and the fact that Rook attempts to save someone without any player input makes me think it’s an Andromeda 2.0 situation where a your a preset personality like Ryder was.
The combat looks bland and boring, and like a lazy mix of FF7 Remake and the newer AC games without any of the depth of either.
The artstyle is just trash, characters look like clay, the Darkspawn look like a bunch of goofy ass goobers, and the demons have been reduced to some weird ass neon shades.
I mean they LITERALLY highlighted a shitty fetch quest as one of the ‘handcrafted’ pieces of content. How out of touch are these devs? Inquisition’s number 1 critique was its shitty open world filled with fetch quest, and andromeda copped that complaint too. Yet these muppets thought it was a good idea to show off a shitty fetch quest in their marketing for their newest game was a good idea? Jesus Christ.
Yet another case where the "men in suits" determine what the game will be like, transforming an excellent franchise into something completely different, with changes that NO fan asked for. Usually with the excuse that it's to "attract a new audience", but then why don't they just create a new IP? It's a HUGE lack of respect to take a CRPG and transform it into an Action-RPG focused on consoles... The game may still be good but really, why risk everything like that? Why not innovate in gameplay while still remaining within the CRPG genre? That's sad.
You know what, I think I've finally pinpointed what game this is giving me the same vibes as, and why it's giving me such a forboding feeling about how this game will perform. Dragon Age: The Veilguard, reminds me of Darksiders 3...
It racked my brain but I remember the name of the game Veilguard looks exactly like- Kingdoms of Amalur.
Why is there best facial animation still DAI?
The hair physics are on a whole other level though. I’ve never seen such animated hair. It’s beautiful.
lets hope thats one of the things they decide to keep for the next game this time, and not just change it all up yet again for whatever reason. Long flowy hair should be a standard
@@maiafay I did like seeing the female Qunari’s hair. I agree, it was beautiful.
The visual still looks very off for me. Like it's not Dragon Age. I know this is a new area, I know it's not supposed to be always dark but...somehow Inquisition graphics looked better and in line with DAO and DA2, just had the better technology to create.
Veilguard though...it's like they pivot to Fortnite, Overwatch or more popular game art style.
And the slop thickens...
Very good video, well put together points.
Most of DA V analysis videos that i’ve seen have lacked exposing the real problems and real upsides. And also elucidating the things that are really a matter of taste, which you did very concisely.
Btw, I also dig Slandered’s content, he’s awsome.
Anyway, Nice vid 🤙
Maybe they told the gameplay team “we want gameplay like modernized origins” and that team instead of looking up DA:origins looked up AC: origins? 😅
LOL
You mean DA 2?
I am definitely watching your review of the game before making the decision to buy this Dragon age. Please cover the companions in terms of gameplay, depth, and aesthetics compared to the previous games, if possible.
I’m convinced that the only reason they even bother with a party in this is because there would be a bigger backlash if they got rid of it altogether. But the combat in particular looks like it’s begging to be a solo combat game.
I think it was more than likely just aimed to being mass effect. The gameplay looks very, very similar to Andromeda or Mass Effect 3. You always have a party but cannot directly control them in those games.
It’s just not a buy for me unless it goes on a massive sale.
Jesus this looks like a cartoon...
That’s insulting to cartoons, they can do better lip sync and expressions.
This disney cartoon style has been a thing since DAI.
It looks like Darksiders 2. I am surprised nobody else sees it, the visual style is basically the same, Caretaker in particular just screams ''lame Vulgrim''.
It looks horrible to me. The art style clashes with the tone of DA so badly, it reads like Disney or like a superhero game, even the UI and flash or substance combat, the first thing the game reminds me of is Gotham Knights. I don't understand why every RPG series is pushing more and more into this tired hack and slash territory. Just like Final Fantasy, it really doesn't make sense because the action ones are the least popular. DA2 is the least popular one but they leaned into it even more and will now act surprised that a huge amount of fans hate it.
what happened to the sons of the Arishok to become prettier than elves? (with the forehead of a melted cheese, that is...)
10 years after its predecessor and yet it become much more worse
And they gonna charge this half baked thing they called a full game more pricey than its predecessor
Spell&Shield, I very much appreciate your neutrality regarding this game. I agree with your Reaper sentiment, it’s either that or Slayer for me! 😁
I’ll not lie, I’m a born and bred console player; some of my first memories involve playing the Atari 2600 with my parents (holy crap, I’m old! 😱). NES, SNES, all the PlayStation incarnations, XBOX and 360? Ran on them all.
That being said, I’m hoping in the name of everything holy that the PC and console experiences are both fulfilling. I’d much rather see everyone happy as opposed to PC or console users getting screwed over.
Let’s see if BioWare grants my wish!
With the exception of the qunari, I don't actually mind the appearance of the character models, particularly in cutscenes, but I will admit that a good amount of the animations feel fairly wooden.
Confusion is relative, and it can be a good thing for people that do not want to be spoon fed. Sadly there are less and less of those around. Remember. This is a computer game. That is all. It is not a "test" or guide to the survival of humanity.
I just hope the side quests are more fun than dai.
As a DA fan who was obsessed with DA:Origins for years, I can play with new art style. This Arcane/Dishonored style could be tasteful. I can see why people enjoy action RPG. And I have an Xbox One controller for my PC. Progression tree is almost like the Path of Exile, which could be fun. But as for characters. I don’t know if I would… find someone like Alistair, or Varric, or Iron Bull. I would give it a try to see if it has an immersive world, but after playing Baldur’s Gate 3, I don’t think that anyone could make something better
Thank you for being open minded.
So you're telling me they are giving us another failed MMO project as a single player dragon age? Two nickels is crazy
It looks... generic and bland, to say the least, not only in the visual design, but also the skill trees/abilities/inventory system seem to be just copy and paste work from a gazillion other games. And while they dont have to reinvent the wheel, it does feel like this game has no soul of its own. I might be wrong though; these are just my initial impressions of the gameplay footage/trailers I have watched. I am going to wait till reviews before I pass my final judgement, but I think this wont be a game for a DA:Origin fan like me.
Edit: Also, all of their good writing staff already left the studio ages ago, so I am not holding much hope for a decent story.
I always appreciate your take. Your takes seem just realistic and fair. Some of these other creators just crap on the game, but worse are those who shall not be named who rationalize every decision, praise every change, then dismiss any criticism
Honestly the entire game feels like it d&d 5e and not dragon age. Feels like who ever was in charge just wanted a d&d 5e game and just sprinkled in the dragon age cause they had to.
Exactly
That would be fine with me if they had D&D gameplay. But mixing those formulas won't do it for me. They went in the completely wrong direction with this one. Art direction looks awful as well. None of the others had great art direction in my opinion, but they at least had a vibe.
I maintain that even by action game metrics, the game seems uninspired and derivative at best. Mediocre hodgepodge of bamham/modern God of War with none of the context that makes those games popular.
Right?
Assassins Creed Odyssey gave players 8 melee based abilities to use, and 4 ranged abilities in addition to your parry, dodge, ultimate, and heavy/light attacks AND in addition you could stealth as well, and that game came out 6 years ago.
Likewise FF7 remake has parry, dodge, heavy + light attacks, full control of companions who have their own fighting styles, and the ability to choose from countless abilities while hot keying 4 and that’s not even going into all the depth added by the sequel as well that came out this year.
Meanwhile Veilguard has removed companion control and their effectiveness in combat, gimped the player to 3-4 abilities, and the actual combat looks bland and uninspired.
That you can´t play as the companions sucks, what if you 10 hours in want to play another class?
in the other games controlling the companions let me play around with all the different play styles. If i made my main a warrior and didn´t like it, no problem just control one of the mages in my part instead.
Finally found the words, hemogenized and antiseptic best sum up everything so far.
Your videos on this topic have helped me reach the final stage of grief. I wish hey had used any other IP. I won't be purchasing, playing or watching others play this game.
ikr I'm so disappointed but I saw it coming and i just pretending it was somehow gonna be different or good, I'm still gonna buy it, almost like I need to just to see how they massacred my fav franchise.
I don't think you've played any MMOs if you think this is closer to mmos than previous dragon age games.
Woohoo!! I'm not the only stubborn "I'm not using controller" player!! I feel seen!! 😅
Yeah I think I might have commented the same to your last vid. It's giving me really strong Division 2/AC:O/God of War/Diablo 4 vibes. Not that they are bad games... I enjoyed all of them... for about 40 hours. The prob is, I LOVED DA:O, DOS:2 and BG3, and played THOSE games for THOUSANDS of hours.
It probably won't be a *terrible* game on the whole, but it's sure as hell not likely to be another game I can happily get lost in for hundreds of hours per playthrough. It's definitely not going to be a game that has comfortable keyboard controls.
Is the average height of Thedas is now below 160cm? Characters don't look good doesn't help they also feel like they are shorties all around. The elf opening a chest felt like a half-ling.
Bioware died when the founders left.
I want to like this game and i want to play this game. but all the negative things everyone is talking about can probably be fixed with PC mods but that won't help anyone playing on consoles.
Unfortunately PC modding is becoming regulated so it might not even be allowed.
@@BrandonPyle-v5m oh boy that's harsh
Me too, but the game is slop. Mods should not fix broken or missing major things. Just enhance the game.
@@KarlKapo tell that to Bethesda 😂😂😂
The itemizations is very arpg Diablo/PoE or looter shooter MMO'esque, the combat is not, it's a lot more like spiderman/arkham/GoW. And obviously it has been developed a 100% for console and just ported to PC.
I also agree at this point after watching that Qunari abomination that the character creator is not going to be as good as they claim, it's just going to have a lot of option nobody is going to use like vitiligo and having one eye looking inwards or bloodshot eyes,etc. If the CC was as robust as they claim they would to the same as Dragons Dogma 2 and InZoi and just release a CC Demo, it's free marketing with explosive word of mouth.
I thought this was a Fortnite expansion when I saw the gameplay lol
The IGN showing was terrible. The recent rogue showing was a lot better, i love action combat so that isn’t an issue for me.
But i am getting major Andromeda vibes. Fun combat, great looking environments everything else was bad.
I think it’ll be much the same for Veilguard.
It looks like a mobile game. It actually looks worse than some mobile games.
haha, first time I saw the initial trailer; my exact thoughts were: oh,they are making a Dragon Age mobile game.
I’m actually enjoying the reveals and I understand why some people would be disappointed. I also thought the mage gameplay was uninteresting compared to the warrior gameplay, but the rogue gameplay has really sold me on purchasing this game.
I like the art style, although some of the facial animations are concerning because they look so stiff especially the npcs, and I have hope that this game is going to be good. I’m pretty hyped for the release.
Dragon age is an adult game, this thing looks like a kid game in terms of graphic. Who made this choice after Inquisition....must really hate Dragon Age. But I could play Dragon Age Origins even without a great graphic, so let's forget this old graphic is not really the result of 10 years of advanced development but a cheap recycling of Mass Effect Andromeda graphic engine. Then this videos shows how the game play is more and more action (really no effort to bring in something more evolved), fine I can stick with it, combos where a secret battle result mixing the skills in Dragon age Origins, nice to see it back.....but, could anyone help me to understand in the videos I have seen, how this action game should work.
With the player forced all the time to stop the game to open the skills wheel interrupting the action, the main core of the game, for what reason, to make an action game pathetically look like a turn based strategic game? This will kill the action flow and make all look frankly like a big mess. Does anyone know if it possible to skip this stupid interface to make the things work automatically during the battle with no need to use this will and kill the flow? I hope there is a way otherwise this game will be ridiculous to play. Sorry to say but they now want 60 euro for a game with an old graphic, a mixed game play system does not satisfy the needs of an action or a turn based style, the only reason at the end left to play this game looks like is the story.....After seeing the Kunaris violated graphically, I hope at least the story will be fine, and things to do will be interesting, but with that messed up fighting system.....huh please tell me it can be avoided for PC....
I believe they said you can keymap skills to avoid using the wheel, but I'm not sure if that works for your companions skills too.
And i have no idea if you can see the cooldown for their skills and command them to attack a specific enemy without opening the wheel.
Maybe you can set some tactics and let their ai do all the work, but they seemed to do very little damage with their auto attacks in the trailers released so far (and the last two were high level combat so it would seem companions are there only for combos when it comes to combat).
I'm not liking it at all. The unnecessary change in art style, the faces, the fast-paced ARPG combat, not controlling your companions, the politics involved... It is a mess. I expected nothing from Bioware and got disappointed anyway.
This comment is hilariously on point, especially the last part
The art style and comic arpg style is horrible
Simple…just don’t play it. What were you expecting, it was NEVER going to go back to the origins style. If you had low expectations, you never really wanted to play it to begin with, and that’s absolutely fine! There are so many games out there don’t waste time on ones you don’t like.
@@raz3rkunwell people are heavily invested in Thedas
@@raz3rkun
As the guy above me is saying, some of us have bought all three previous games, expansions, books and only subscribed to Netflix to see the anime.
Why do you feel, that we don't get voice our opinion?
I'm very sorry if for you the fact that the game isn't optimized for mouse and keyboard is a dealbreaker, because this game was definitely designed only for controllers, just by looking at the game I can say that it's noticeable. I say this game will be mediocre at best.
Not looking forward for this game, but i do look forward to avowed :)
I wouldn't say that MMO combat is that popular that I imagine Bioware trying to jump on that "trend"....what this reminds me of somehow is Cyberpunk before its big rework.
You had dozens of useless perks/skills ala "+5% damage if the wind blowing from the east", "after reloading gain buff xyz for 5 seconds".
CDPR saw that this is just boring bloat and removed all of it for more impactful perks that change your playstyle.
About controller/kb+m....I would say kb+m has a significant advantage as you can keybind you companions' skills and therefore play w/o pausing.
3:57 - nice to see Darth Vader making an appearance in this game!
quote - "this is not the end of the world". Actually this IS the end of any desire I have to play the game.
A whole raft of very bad decisions by the devs because Bioware thought it knew better than the fans. If I wanted an action game I'd play Elden Ring. I don't want a Disneyesque action game where my companions are ineffective and the RPG part and depth of combat are all on the cutting room floor. It's too late to change stuff now and has been probably been too late for years. The only thing left is to watch this car crash in slow motion.
The combat and visuals remind me a lot of Mass Effect Andromeda. The companions in that game didn't do anything either. The play dough character model vibe is also quite similar.
It’s not looking great
I can only say that should this be the first DA game I don't buy, it will be for the flashy, super-fast, over-the-top combat. I can live with characters who just look serviceable (and I don't think they look that bad in the first place, honestly), environment aesthetics that look good but don't capture the feel of the setting, subpar character creators and I'm even somewhat tolerant of bugs as long as they aren't game-breaking. But this style of combat....I just hate it. And that it reminds me of DA2 makes things worse. I hated the combat in that game so much that on subsequent playthroughs I did to explore roleplaying options, I chose easy difficulty and added a damage reduction mod on top of it, just because I wanted combat to be over faster and preferably with no input from me at all.
The reveals looked ok to me. Yes the qunari rook looks dumb. But thats a character creation. There are better looking qunari in the newer video just released. I noticed some animation issues too. But honestly, I never played Bioware for their visuals or combat systems. I like the characters and lore and choices and consequences. I play Bioware for the writing. And the writers on this one are vets from the original DA and ME and BG games. I can only decide how much i like/dislike this game when I've played it and experienced the story and how much I can influence the world by my choices. The rest just doesnt matter to me. What matters to each of you will be different. But if the direction of this DA is making you unhappy, then please find something that excites you. Or replay BG3.
I disagree with your controller sentiments, but I still agree if this game is only a twitchy combo buttom mashing mesh, I'll hate it.
Baldur's Gate 3 is a game I still play, despite knowing the story and characters. The gameplay was solid and makes me think. Thats how you do a modern Triple A big budget crpg.
Also, i got to be honest, yeah the facial animations and some character designs in the Mass Effect trilogy might be dated, but the games released on Xbox 360 and Ps3 well over a decade ago. Thats not an excuse for terrible models. And if we're gonna go there, Femshep is still one of the most attractive video game chaarcters, and broshep is a decent looking dude. I have trouble even finding one appealing design so far.
Same here for controls. If a game is optimized for the controller but plays poorly with a mouse and keyboard, I am out.
I also don't really see the point behind a party-action RPG where your teammates need constant attention to do some damage. We had that in Mass Effect and in the end, the teammates were just carriers for additional abilities you could call upon. Party combat in single-player is better suited for turn-based games where you have time to take control of your team members.
Smell something rotten in the kingdom of Denmark
I’m not so worried about the art style or the faces anymore, now what bugs me is the jank. Now BioWare games have always had jank, but because of how vibrant the art style and graphics are and the 60 fps, they stand way more in combat. The running animation is so wooden, looks like you’re running on ice, and the transition from running to walking is very abrupt. Don’t even get me started on ALL of the effects, it looks like there’s whole frames missing. This game is not finished lol. I’m still gonna buy it but damn is this really the best they can do
thank you for the video. I don't know how to move that fast in a game with a mouse and keyboard. I have a pac man game with no option for a controller and it's really difficult to get used to. I used to get to like 10 levels easy on pac man. however, with mouse and keyboard, I get to around level 3.
The companions can't even take damage, they can't die. Notice they have no HP bars, no defense stat, no armor stats on their gear. Ally Mages and Rogues healing action is single target only works on Rook. They're just battle minions that do chip damage and combo starters.
This is what happens when you layoff all your talented character designers and you think you can just bypass them using AI or an in-game character creator.
Their faces are tired
Dragon Age: dream light valley is not for me
Despite its flaws, DAI still looks beautiful after all these years. Better looking than what Ive seen so far from Veiguard tbh
'They have moved on almost entirely from the original RPG formula'. I don't get that complaint. Dragon Age has been action focused since DA2. There's literally nothing surprising about this.
The combat was designed around rogue or first rogue the best. The other class are going to worst to play and fundamentally don’t fit the action combat they’re going for. At least with the design they went for. Kingdom of amalur has better combat that games and that came out 11 years ago even then the combat got repetitive after a while.
This looks like an awesome game. AAA
The more information that release for The veil guard the more it gives off the vibe of a really bad mobile game that's also a crappy MMO. At this point it just feels like it should have been a whole different IP
I can play fast-paced but not fond of it much & easy to get bored. I can like leveling up my sets but definitely not for the other's because it's like homework to me when farm resources for too much pp. And romance with kind of these companion's looks... it just shut me down completely, that'll make them less interesting to care for or talking to. This kind of game which I can only enjoy if just only 1 main character bc I feel companions is useless
While my stance on controllers is not as hard as yours, I do get it.
I'm very interested on how it plays without one too.
My current one started getting... I think it's called "stick drift"...... within a year.... 😒
Would you consider doing a video about your thoughts on MMO’s? 😅
I didn't have to revise anything. No brag, just fact. The reveal trailer was just garbage marketing. I knew it wouldn't be indicative of the gameplay. It was just a terrible ad. As for the demo, I called out everything wrong with it, from the PS2 era graphics, to the bad storyline, to the Inquisitor's absence. The trailer after that is the one BioWare should have led with, but the story is still bad. The warrior combat was too flashy and had bugs. The mage demo further confirmed that player choice has gone out the window, as Rook speaks for the player much more than the player gets to select dialogue options. The deep dive is also awful that shows how we once again can't switch abilities during combat, even while the ability slots have been cut in half from 8 to 3 + 1. And I agree this looks like an MMO system, especially the duplicate item being merged into the existing item to power it up. Also, the companions don't take damage, and you don't have to worry about healing them. There is no strategy to this.
I am waiting to see how the character creator works before I buy ,
I want it to be good so bad Dragon Age is my 100% fav fantasy game ever I love them all even 2...But its EA and fuck them...
Regarding the facial animations, I think it's worth remembering that Inquisition faced a lot of criticism for having a zoomed-out camera during most conversations and it sounds like they tried to move away from that for this game by having everything be up-close. Given that the animations in the actual cinematics looked a lot better, this might just be a matter of it not being technically feasible to have fully motion-captured animations for every single character interaction. Which was probably why they did the zoomed-out camera in Inquisition in the first place.
Personally I’m excited this is the kind of game I like. The only thing I don’t like is the toning down of inventory and item management in comparison to other RPGs.
My biggest issue so far is the party members A.I. in theses game play they pause too much so U can’t tell if you’re so called members are really doing anything or they just useless!!!! meaning can they heal or throw bombs or do anything.
I don't like it at all. The game is somehow even worse than DA: Inqusition when it comes to combat. Game doesn't look like Dragon Age.
DA:V looks like a Tencent mobile game. I won't buy it.
I thought the emphasis on Combos was just a copy of Mass Effect Andromeda. Not necessarily bad, but i do hope that i can make a simple pure damage and armor build without any additional enchantments.
so you can only wear one set armor and a helmet? hahahah truly a triple A experience
I was shocked that a lot of people didn't seem to care it looks like a MMO, and i guess that's the target audience, they didn't seem to care and obviously don't care about the franchise and pretend they are fans, only that they're not, they only seem to care what this games means for ME5 and not dark fantasy like Dragon age.
I'm going to buy this game because I love DA, I know that this game is going to disappoint me, but I'm not shocked as I knew that the game was going to be online and they changed everything from RPG to online to "rpg" again, I guess now its just a reality for the game, I do not like the flashy MMO, saturated, bs on the screen, and its AGAIN confused about its identity and I hope above all, that the main story is relatively interesting and has emotional stakes, but I'm not holding my breathe.
The thing that bugs me the most, is people pretending this is ok and acceptable, online and some UA-cam channels that'll except anything, I'm grateful your not one of those youtubers, I at least know you'll say how it is and not just accept any old crap from companies that fail, again I cant understand why people defend them, delusional.
great video 👍
People have different opinions.... people are boasting that Origins was some Masterpiece to others it was an ugly game with a good story and bad combat. Is that's valid? Well yeah it can be
A lot of people are going off about it looking like a Cartoon but it's really just a different style just like 2 or Inquisition
People like different things and pretending that there not fans because they don't agree with your assessment is pretty shit
What your seeing is called nuance
@@demonking-zm3rsSpot on I played Deagon Age since origins and been a fan ever since and to me Vailguard looks really good and I am excited for it. People just don't want innovation.
@@Crow-nc1oo Different for sure but innovative? That might be stretching it a bit.
@@JustAGamerInc innovation for the series
Just because they have a different opinion doesn't mean they aren't true fans. Just makes tou look like you wanna dog on it her people and crown yourself as an ultimate fan.
Bummer. Was hoping for more Origin vibes.
Why? Like its been over 10 years and after several sequels they made it clear they have moved on. At this point your just setting yourself for failure
It looks like a mobile rpg. Not as button mashy but still looks close. Also do NOT play da2 it is the biggest waste of time. The most halfassed game ive played in years even anthem outshines da2 for variety
You clearly never played a mobile game if you think this looks anything like a mobile game
Definitely looks like a phone game
I find it funny (and actually understandable) how opinions about this game are so divisive. You watch UA-camrs like Jackdaw and the opinions are high praises only, and yes Jackdaw is basically a Dragon Age channel so there’s bias but then you watch none other than Fextralife and says how looking forward he is to playing this game, particularly the combat. Then there are UA-camrs like Luke Stephens who are skeptically optimistic who try to walk a middle ground leaning to optimism, opposite I’d say to Spell&Shield who feels to me skeptically pessimistic trying to keep it rational leaning to pessimism and finally there are UA-camrs on the complete negative side and some even hate.
I find all of these are fair, some people just love DA with a passion and are willing to open their arms to DAV for whatever it is now, some are just waiting for release to actually find out then, some just are too frustrated about this not being like DAO. Whatever the case BioWare’s recent products haven’t given reason to anyone to trust and the recent marketing shows the game is not for everyone.
I believe when the game comes out we will see some review scores and they’ll be (to whatever side of the spectrum) just numbers. This will be one of those games that in one or two years each camp will say “I messed up when I reviewed, after the euphoria of October 2024 I can say the game is better/worse than I gave it credit”
Lord Medina, thank you for the comment; I think one thing you stated is most important, namely that BW's recent releases have done nothing to instill confidence in their current product. Two huge failures so what can one say and do? Developers can only be given so many chances until some skepticism becomes warranted. I do think your characterisation of my position is accurate however and I appreciate that.
@@spellandshield Thank you for your answer, sir! I appreciate it.
I liked what i saw, is like God of War the RPG. There seems to be tons of deep customization and builds.
Well is obviously an action rpg, there are things that will work differently from your typical turn based rpg.