The Big Build 21. How to make a simple Oak frame to support roof rafters
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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In this episode I am starting to make the green oak frame that will carry the new roof structure and form a really nice canopy/logia over the back door of the Big Build. I really enjoy working with green oak, this is locally sourced english oak and it is a beautiful material to work with, these are the sort of jobs that I relish and thank my lucky stars that I have a wonderful craft such as Carpentry and Joinery
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The old Hitachi comes out if there is real work to be done.
You and your team are incredible generous publishing all this amazing content. You are great TV Robin and extremely informative and the passion shows.
"we're not making clocks" A great line. The way you mark out is very clever thanks for sharing your techniques. I bet you could make some damn fine clocks if you wanted to.
"we're all humans and we all make mistakes" Well said Rob
And this is an example where the materials are so expensive that you really don't want to make any mistake.
Fantastic idea using a router to astablish the mortice to minimise break out, and gives you a shoulder to set the chain too
The letterbox & box square are pure brilliant.
Another great instructal video Rob loving this series. As an DIYer which I use to manage my PTSD, I have found your videos have helped me, progress so much with my own projects.
Thanks will be using this approach soon
One of your best videos ever. I used to do an awful lot of green oak work in the UK and have cut my fair share of mortice and tenon. Never seen that sliding box trick for keeping everything square. Love it. Nice to see the chain mortice machine too. You have made life a bit easy for yourself though by getting all the members including the knee braces pre cut. We used to buy slabs of green oak and cut out what we needed on site with chain saws. The big curved beam supports you get on the old barns were fun to cut and tenon each end. And fun to get in. If we were doing a repair often we would age the wood. Burn areas and then clean up when all treated looks more natural than beating up the timber. I miss this sort of work.
Dave taylor, framing probably hasn't changed all that much since you did it, were still ripping slabs, snapping lines, twist marking and 500's.
@@leftfootforward1040 Glad to hear it. I haven't done that sort of work now for over twenty years but I spent nearly twenty doing it.
The last head carpenter I worked with would use a rod for setting out most of the time, such a fantastic way of marking out!
Beautiful work as always Robin 💪🏻🔨🪚
Yep, it’s buy for the best, most accurate, and easiest (once you learn as most people don’t think too), I always use one, from setting out hinges, hanging a door so you don’t have to keep moving it. It’s old school.
I love this series. Thank you Robin for going to the time and effort to share with us. It's inspirational.
Great tips I will be using in the future!
It's great watching you work I wish I had an ounce of your talent 👍👍
You do pal it's just training and experience 💚🔨
The vertical cuts to take the shoulders out with the big saw with little to ride on is sweet
The kick on that Hitachi when you started it up! Interesting video as always
I admire your work ethic.
Great informative video.
Please keep posting them.
Thank you! Will do!
This is the content I follow you for mate. Absolutely love this stuff
Excellent video Rob. I love the fact that you make up sticks and jigs for ultimate accuracy, rather than relying on measurements that can wander the odd couple of millimetres.
Can’t wait for the next episode
Lovely work Robin! Precision work!
Cheers Sam 🍻
What timing. Literally going to do some DIY oak framing tomorrow. Awesome tips there. So glad I clicked on this video.
Have a great time and enjoy!!
I'd love to do an oak job like that but I have all on convincing my clients to go from a 3x3 to a 4x4 fence post!!
You make those vertical cuts with the Hitachi look easy 😶
Brilliant - we're thinking how nice it would be t rip our roof off & ceiling/floors & replace with something like this! I bet we haven't got joist every 400cms - oh what I could do with all that floor space and extra head height!
You get all the good jobs Robin!👍
Would be nice to see the fit in the next video. Awesome work
Can't add anything else to all the praise given to date. Excellent video 😀
Thank you kindly!
Thoroughly enjoyed it! Now we are getting to the "meat and potatoes" part of the build. Looking forward to the next episode. Thanks for sharing.
wheres the gravy
@@jlewis1688 That's still to follow!
Keep watching.
Thank you Shaun, I appreciate your comments and thank you for watching and supporting me!
Such a beautiful home this will be. Always loved Oakwork frames
Lovely presentation 👍👍
Great video Robin,a joy to watch you at work !!!
lot of oat work!
That is truly beautiful work. I’m envious.
I would have liked to see more details of that chain morticer, that looks very useful.
Yup. Ended a bit abruptly
@@AsadMulla Never mind, it's tough making videos. I hope to see more of it sometime if possible 😉.
@@chriseast6123 looking forward to part 2
you don't have to have a chain mortiser to do this work it just looks flash
Nice new emblem with shadows at the start of your video. Awesome video thanks, love the oak work. Cheers.
Love this type of episodes, brings my in a relaxed feeling, also itching to do something like that myself 👍 thanks Robin for this great learning vids !
Hello Robin , thankyou for your reply to my comment , I have started to make notes and a contact list ,I imagnie such a film would appeal to man and boy , I know the subject of forestry and carpentry have kept me interested all my adult life ,there is something about being practical that helps us to detract from those woes that effect most of us in our everyday lives PT
Some good tips for working with green oak frames or any large timbers very handy to have a few skill saws all set to your different depths of cut 🤟🙂🇮🇪☘️👋👍
Your hard wood looks great!
Ooooer missus !
Ffs Ed 😂😂
Lovely to watch Rob.
Carpentry hasn't changed but the tool have, so it is nice to watch you link the old skills with modern tools, ie, the jigs you make. Story rods are ancient so I don't know why more guys don't use them. Bricklayers call them story rods, not sure what you do but you know what I mean.
Really enjoyed this one.
A little bit of preparation saves so much time later but guys just don't get it.
Glad you enjoyed it, And it is a shame that more people as you say don't use some of the simplest and practical techniques!!! have a good weekend mate!!
I do like it when you make a jig
Gold standard as ever !
Another excellent video Robin. really interesting. You make it look so easy when it definitely isn't.
Many thanks!
I love the box idea minght try that one 👍👍😉
It's so easy with the box, saves hours and it's super accurate!!
@@ukconstruction definitely. The perfect idear for green oak. Haven't had a square one yet. I got a car port coming up will give it ago. Cheers robin👍👍👍😉
Make a nice bird box that.
Great work again.
Great idea!!
Yaaaaaay love a good Robin clevett video
Great skill even with machines as I have done these and you need a steady hand Great work Robin
This is awesome! I’ve got a building with a bit of oak frame on the front to build, I was going to source the oak out but having watched this I reckon I can do it myself now 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
Love you videos,what a master.
Excellent…like to see more about the chain mortiser
WoW! Simply WoW 🤩
Another great video Robin I can’t believe how quick you did that tenon , I’m off work recovering from shoulder surgery 3 weeks ago and can’t wait to get back to work already. Looking forward to the next one 👍
Hope your shoulder heals soon mate!! thanks for your comment!! what happened!
@@ukconstruction morning, wear and tear apparently well I am 54 now I guess I have to expect that 🤦♂️ looking forward to the main roof videos , the mrs thinks I’m nuts lol
Great video, always enjoy your content.
This is the real deal 👍
Robin loving that you share your knowledge,time served and still picking up tips 😳 how did Ed find picking up the big boy saw. 😁
Great video!
Great content mate keep it coming 😀
Great stuff, really wanted to see more when cutting the socket
And I also realise you may have spat your coffee out, when you read the word socket, 😜🔨 it was late when I watched it ok, and I’m not worthy……love the content, and Edd is proving to be quite a chap, on another note that house is never falling down, proper jarrb
Hello Robin,
Great precision engineering work. Your knowledge, expertise and experience is really great. Simple square box and template makes life easier and faster....
I love your accuracy.
"Learning by mistake".
A ture sportsman is who accepts defeat at some time in life. We all make mistakes in life and that's when you learn the best way in future jobs. Everyday you learn something new.........
Best wishes,
Ahmed, Leicester ENGLAND
When you change from dialogue to music please will you keep the volume the same. For those of us using ear-buds it's not only a shock, but could really damage hearing. Apart from that - love the oak and the craftsmanship :)
Mate! I'm a chippy not Stephen Spielberg
@@ukconstruction SMH
@@ukconstruction You're a youtuber now aswell though.
The quality of work on display here and this is currently the highest ranked comment! SMH.
Bet you could build the Ark, that's a bigger boat right?
Great video yet again Robin👍,I like you,tend to make jigs and use rods rather than tape measures. Much more accurate ,plus the time taken making the jig is easily cancelled out by the time saved actually doing the job👍
I like the Ol' Makita morticer. It plunges in 4 positions once clamped. Fwd & back from the lever then swings to left in both positions. Speeds up production if one has lots of mortices to cut. Prob not as quick as the mafell but solid workhorse
Lovely work. This is what we've all been waiting for! 👌😁
Cheers mate!!
Breakfast with Robin. That Oak is amazing!! Don’t they say “only God can make a tree”?
God made them for us to benefit from and for that we are for ever grateful, hi Bill have a great weekend!!
Shoulder box 👍. So obvious. So simple. After you see it for the first time. Love to watch your work unfold. Always applicable lessons to store away. I know it’s inevitable, but it still bothers me with all the work that’s done from forest to mill to create a 6x6x10(?) oak post, and then there’s an edge ding when it comes off the truck.
Great video, and thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm trained as a cabinet maker, and it's always interesting to see the dark side!
Just one thing: I think you are taking an unnecessary risk when you are using your table saw without a riving knife (as well as it being against H&S for woodworking machinery!)
We have had more issues with the riving knife than with out it!! many new portable circular saws do not have a riving knife, For my own use I generally remove the knife
@@ukconstruction Thanks for the reply. It's interesting - perhaps the rules are different for site. Kick-back can be scary when it happens, and I've seen some nasty things on fixed machinery because of it!
Great video mate, thanks again. Any chance of showing a little bit more about the chain mortiser? looks a beautiful tool to use
Liking the new snazzy intro graphic Robin. All you need now is some music to go with it. Oh...and the wood butchering was on point, as usual 😀👍
Why no riving knife on the table saw? Nice job on the Oak frame!
Very nice
Awesome to see some of the traditional carpentry styles mixed with modern techniques. Thanks Rob
Love watching any craftsman performing his trade and skills after years of experience.
Great work what the music at 10.40 love that tune
Thanks Robin. I'm preparing to build a timber framed workshop (as per The Restoration Couple) and have watched many timber framing videos, mostly American, but nowhere have I seen tenons cut with such accuracy. That box is a complete boon! Please show us your subsequent steps where, I presume, you'll be drawboring the frame together with Oak pins? Also please could you recommend one budget circular saw - 240V would be OK - to make all the necessary cuts?
oak pegs not pins
Normally chestnut pegs are used as there's not much movement in them try looking at the makita 5903rk it's a beast of a motor and remember to get a good blade fred red or fruad pro 😝 with about 60 teeth with give you a good cut 🔨🍺
Love the work, but Robin, as a restoration stone carver I need to say: never ever use iron rods in natural stone. They wíll rust and expand at some point in time. Crack says the stone. Stainless is not all that expensive in these short lengths
That's how they came!!
@@ukconstruction 🤓😬🙆♂️
My wife's even on board watching now 😛
Well I appreciate that!!!! please thanks her from me!!
Man who never made a mistake never made anything
wow
Robin, really interesting video, but we wanted to see a more in-depth look at the machine to do the mortise joint.
Beautiful to watch such a skilled tradesman at work. Like the box template, great idea, mate.
That chain morticer did rip up the edge; thought you'd drive the chisel in first to prevent that?
Or do it from both sides downward, but there's scope for inaccuracy there, I guess.
Driving a chisel down still won't prevent it because of the chainsaw ripping upwards motions 🔨
What type of routing bit did you use at 23:30. How did it not cut in the template itself? A trimming bit would be way too long
Hi Robin, how do you fix the staddle stone down? and do you put a type of resin on the peg before you mount the oak post? Thanks
We cut set them onto the foundation pad and then pave around them and point with a decent sand and cement mix
👍
I had no idea Hitachi made a 250mm/10" circ saw. (Model number, if you have the time?)
Hi Robin, I note there is no diving knife on the table saw. Is this a problem or a risk? Mike
Hi what mill supplies these braces, they look real quality
Hi Andy, this is a local Mill to me in West Sussex, happy to pass on the details maybe DM me on Instagram as the guy at the mill does not like publicity!!!
Now that was Carpentry Porn!!!! 👌
Would have been great to see a mortice made with non specialist tools, things most chippies have?
Auger bit and a big chisel work for me. Takes a bit longer but cheaper than a chain morticer.
I'm with you on this I was disappointed to see how Rodin went about this job
It's about time and speed and if you've priced for it you might aswell make profit 😝🔨
Does all traditional post and beam work use green lumber?
Generally Tim, once its dry its rock hard!! just have to catch it green!!
Loving this project. You got any jobs going 😂 keep the content coming
What tool belt is that? i know it’s diamondback but what bags have you got
Check the video called Chippie Chat the one from about 3 weeks ago!! Ed talks about what we have!!
fukin awesome.
Hi rob ,how much time do you save using the electric saw,in comparison to the hand saw.
No Comparison, also the physical effort needed to do loads of repeat cuts is pretty mad!! A good circular saw with a sharp blade is the way to go!! Takes some practice though!
Great work and really good advice. Where did you get the beams, they look great. I am looking to get some for a garden project and I live in the same area as you.
prob from an oak tree
what tool with the chainsaw is that?
Makita chain mortiser
@@ukconstruction The video was great packed with some good tips, but a pity you didn't show more about the mortiser as I have never seen or used one.
Any opportunity for carpenter
Hi Nisar, if you are looking for work as a carpenter and you are qualified maybe speak to some agencies in your city as they always need new talent, hope that helps bro
Nice work, do you still see much of Rodger 🤔
Undercut them shoulders robin and draw and bore them babies together
Buy a Mafell NFU50. You will wish you bought one years ago.
Bet you don’t pay any tax with all that kit you buy to offset it , you got every tool known to man ..
Dont let the IOC see you not using a push stick you will be downgraded to Student membership lol
Don't tell!!