✂️Curly Cut Damage: Cut it Kinky Speaks Up

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • I like a lot of people were expecting a response from BGC about the curly cut damage...which is now being called damage from "the method". Most of the conversation is happening on UA-cam. Have you ever seen this conversation that happened over on Cut it Kinky? What are the questions you wish were answered from Black Girl Curls or Cut it Kinky Stylists?

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  • @LoveStarsWorld
    @LoveStarsWorld 22 дні тому +7

    They have since issued an apology and admitted they cut their own hair stretched bc their curly cut didnt address all the ends.

    • @Camerashy03
      @Camerashy03 21 день тому

      They have, but I don’t think they had anything to apologize for accept for maybe their tone in how they addressed people’s concerns. But I’m sure they had to do something because it could impact their brand if they didn’t, I’m sure. I just personally think their method is not to be blamed.

    • @sherwood9917
      @sherwood9917 14 днів тому

      @@Camerashy03 They may have apologized because of a video from years ago that recently resurfaced, in which they appear to recognize that curly cuts alone do not address split ends. In that video, they mention that they get both curly cuts and straight ones, despite what they explicitly told their customers, clients and the stylists they trained. The fact that so many of stylists have come out admitting that the method did damage their clients' hair may also have something to do with why they have "apologized".

  • @meloyeloniki
    @meloyeloniki Рік тому +39

    Hello a follower I don’t comment usually but I thought this was a good one. I’d add my 2 cents. From what I can see many of ladies are upset that they were misled that doing the BGC things partnering with a stylist would lead to healthy easier hair. I think a few of ladies were directly working with stylists and these stylists never said their hair wasn’t doing well! I think this a part of the larger problem that many including myself have had with stylists that even under their care and direction you’re still ending up with damaged hair and your always being blamed. Now I don’t think all stylists are like this but I know I’ve personally experienced that and have been frustrated hence why so many went natural and turned to UA-cam.
    I also watch and follow a lot of stylists and many have a variety of ways of doing hair and ultimately hair can be done in many different ways. The fundamentals of washing, conditioning and then styling your hair how you like and getting it trimmed regularly are key. I recently went to a curl specialist not associated with BGC and she said my hair was very dry and told me to start deep conditioning regularly until she can access my hair again. The thing is I’ve been using all their recommendations. I think ultimately some of their recommended products may not be as conducive to moisture retention and over time can lead to dry hair. I think ultimately you have to find a stylist right for you and your goals. I personally get my hair blown out and cut then she’ll clean up the shape. I love how my ends feel a little better. I wish they would have addressed some of the concerns of consumers directly instead of only stylists but that just my opinion. Hair is nuanced and very personal!

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for sharing,❤️ I appreciate your perspective. Putting your trust in stylists in stylists and having bad results is frustrating. One thing that helps is giving stylist feedback. It is awkward telling people something isn't working but what As are getting at in the video is... if people don't share details about their routine. It's hard to help make changes. Those changes could lead to changes in product recommendations.

    • @meloyeloniki
      @meloyeloniki Рік тому +3

      Thanks and you are right! Giving feedback is great if the other person is receptive to the feedback. I think sometimes once the trust is lost that it can make it hard to want to speak up. I know my natural inclination is to go find someone else. I now have a stylist I trust who listens to my concerns but that has not always been the case.
      I’m glad though that this is a teaching moment not all stylist are equal in talent and training. I think this will empower us though to be better at vetting stylists for our needs and if those needs are being met then moving on to someone else! Honestly there are many missing pieces so who knows what really happened. 🤷🏽‍♀️
      Glad for the productive conversation that you are bringing!

  • @Houseofgamine
    @Houseofgamine 11 місяців тому +4

    Noticing some things with my family’s hair after attempting this method. Appreciate the upload and it’s crazy to me the level of common sense that is being ignored. If there are several splits on the shaft that’s product. A “straight” cut will allow for the average stylist to access damage but no a kinky cut can’t damage hair, lol. I’m shocked the cut is what the focus of the conversation and not the product selection , frequency, styling etc. like no one in history has hair damage from a hair cut. I’m really shocked this is the focus of the discussion.

    • @fin4008
      @fin4008 11 місяців тому +8

      If the haircut does not address damage then the damage will worsen. No one is saying cutting hair in itself is damaging it, I think they figured that would be common sense…not to mention people are talking about the products and method as a whole if you actually go watch the videos you’ll see.

    • @LoveStarsWorld
      @LoveStarsWorld 22 дні тому

      False. The cosmetologist in the video said herself that 3 different cutting techniques actually CAN cause split ends but that none of those techniques are part of the cut it kinky method.

    • @Houseofgamine
      @Houseofgamine 22 дні тому

      @ I hear ya! I guess the point is hair care practices or lack there of are the #1 cause of split ends not a haircut. I think focusing on the hair cut techniques is counter productive when the reality is the regimen, lack of lubricants and drying ingredients leaves the hair shaft vulnerable to friction which is what cause the shaft to split.

  • @lovelygirl1975
    @lovelygirl1975 Рік тому +11

    I appreciate you shared here. My concern back when some of this got going. I don’t understand how the blame was on BGC and not the person you went too. They have no control over what an individual does after they take the class. We all know doctors, and other trained people that we don’t think are doing the best job. But, that’s on them not necessarily the training. I really think BGC tried to answer them; they just didn’t like the way they chose to answer.

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for sharing your perspective❤️ I had similar thoughts. After some ladies got the second blow out cut and saw more split ends. I felt like it really didn't have anything to do with curly cuts

  • @pameladavis895
    @pameladavis895 Рік тому +12

    I appreciate this video and no I hadn't seen it before. Thank you for sharing it with us!
    It is unfortunate that the discussions weren't had between the stylist and the person receiving the cuts and this ran into the "streets." But at this point if this is still out in the streets it's because people want to see it dragged out. I have even stopped viewing videos that "stoke the flames" because it gets their numbers up!
    This is interesting because when A & A addressed that a curly cut is not for shape but maintenance I thought the same thing. When they talked about a vertical, horizontal, and diagonal cut, I watched a video of Elaine of YES studios cut a few of the UA-camr's curly cuts and she didn't do a curl by curl. I haven't seen (that I was able to see) that were on UA-cam curly cut stylists cut curl by curl. I just used Elaine as an example but I have watched other stylists cut and they aren't cutting curl by curl either. So to hear this being said and what is being shown are two different things.
    The saddest thing for me is seeing stylists go after other stylists and telling what they aren't doing right or wrong (products, making fun of how they look, etc.). Consideration has to be taken into account how a client and stylist work together to determine how to reach the goals for a client's hair. If this client is not in the stylist's chair (especially on UA-cam), why on earth would anyone want to interject themselves into the issue of which they have no firsthand knowledge?
    A & A made some good points and I am glad you presented this platform to address it. If this doesn't help then I don't think people want to move on. I for one am tired of the drama. When people don't want to resolve an issue, it doesn't matter what you say or do. They want the continued pity party and not a solution!

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for sharing❤️ Appreciate your feedback. Stylists vs stylist thing is tough to watch even as a consumer. Because who do you trust?

    • @pameladavis895
      @pameladavis895 Рік тому +1

      Although the natural hair journey is the same road, there are different perspectives from stylists and how they approach their client's hair. I find the respect I had for some stylists on their channels (influencers too) have changed because of their intentional stoking and/or bashing. It's not necessary.
      Whether one has a blown out cut, curly cut, dry WNG or wet, leave in or not, deep conditioner or not, if client and stylist are making it work then so be it. If not, continue to find someone that can give you what you desire and need@@Untwisted_hair

    • @menerverdolor8791
      @menerverdolor8791 Рік тому +2

      👏👏👏

  • @harmonious.balance
    @harmonious.balance Рік тому +11

    I remember watching this live back then and pretty much thought the same thing. What BGC preferred was a different way to communicate about the problem. My bone of contention has always been folks will not follow up with the stylist whose hands were actually in their hair but expect the ones that are total strangers to their hair to answer for it. The situation is many think they are right and just expected contrition. While I do think BGC and CIK could've been less defensive, I do think to paint the picture that they went silent or were just total "mean girl" was unfair.

  • @lindahertz1402
    @lindahertz1402 Рік тому +5

    Good video! I saw this live and Shelly, Rosie, and Afrikan Hair Goon were there asking questions.

    • @pameladavis895
      @pameladavis895 Рік тому +4

      Really?

    • @lindahertz1402
      @lindahertz1402 Рік тому +11

      @@pameladavis895 yup. Most of that live they were speaking DIRECTLY to the 3 people who are always saying they were ignored and dismissed.

    • @pameladavis895
      @pameladavis895 Рік тому +4

      How pitiful!@@lindahertz1402

    • @jaynel9191
      @jaynel9191 Рік тому +4

      wow...tfs@@lindahertz1402

    • @potterylady44
      @potterylady44 Рік тому +2

      ​@@pameladavis895yes all 3 of them came into the live. The live was actually about another topic but the 3 came in and the topic changed.

  • @klynne899
    @klynne899 10 місяців тому +1

    As a subscriber to BGC I thank you for bringing this to light. Im also a subscriber to your channel, and i think you make excellent content

  • @barbarakberry
    @barbarakberry Рік тому +23

    I’m tired of the conversation really. It feels like the people with the problems either didn’t pay for BGC education (e.g. See Some Curls or Wash Your Damn Hair) or they are really bad students. I paid for education, I see a trained/ licensed stylist regularly, and I have had a great experience. Outside of my stylist, I don’t know any of these people personally. I just don’t understand what happened to their hair and how or why are they blaming BGC 🤷🏾‍♀️ Since when does washing your hair with shampoo, conditioning your hair with conditioner, and styling your hair with 1-3 gels damage your hair? Or in this case: since when does getting trims damage your hair? Thank you for reiterating that this topic was addressed by BGC.

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому

      Thank you for sharing❤️

    • @afuanieto4438
      @afuanieto4438 Рік тому +1

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I’ve had a good experience so far with BGC. I am completely under a rock with this conversation. Didn’t even know this what was happening.

    • @fin4008
      @fin4008 11 місяців тому +9

      Gels can be extremely drying for one, not getting proper trims that address hair damage can leave it more damaged. Calling ppl “bad students” is insane.

    • @barbarakberry
      @barbarakberry 11 місяців тому +4

      @@fin4008 my comment is strictly about people who paid for a see some curls or wash your damn hair subscription. Misapplying the information provided then speaking on it unintelligibly is what’s insane.

  • @ossier2796
    @ossier2796 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for the video. I’ve been getting curly cuts since 2018 Devacut and my stylist is proficient in several types of curly cuts including cut it kinky.

  • @rdejlee9288
    @rdejlee9288 Рік тому +11

    Anthony Dickey also addressed curly cuts... I never understood how "everyone" should do the same thing...Can't be "one size fits all" not when we all have different hair🤔...

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +3

      Who said everyone should do the same thing?

    • @rdejlee9288
      @rdejlee9288 Рік тому +6

      From what I've seen, they have their method & a list of products..

    • @rdejlee9288
      @rdejlee9288 Рік тому +1

      All of this is very interesting...Thank you

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +8

      Thanks for watching ❤️ The list has over 50 products on it. To be fair most stylist stick to a few products that they know work on most of their clients.

    • @154angel154
      @154angel154 15 днів тому +1

      ​@Untwisted_hair Most stylists WON'T fire you as your stylist if you go opposite of their suggested product list though!!!

  • @meech3727
    @meech3727 Рік тому +10

    I noticed that the three main YTers with issues were just using this as a means to generate content I stopped giving them clicks. I remember seeing that live and feeling like BGC handled it appropriately being that they hadn’t assessed their hair personally. What more do you want from someone whose chair you haven’t been in? I really want everyone to have their concerns listened to but it became so much more and I wasn’t a fan of how they were behaving.

    • @Untwisted_hair
      @Untwisted_hair  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for sharing your perspective ❤️ I feel bad for those initial UA-camrs because other people are using their hair trauma for content. They think people are laughing with them but they are laughing at them . After 9 months of curly cuts folks had 2in of split ends after 9 months of blown out cuts they lost a lot more length than that. I hope they find resolve in 2024.

    • @klynne899
      @klynne899 10 місяців тому

      I totally agree💯

  • @jaynel9191
    @jaynel9191 Рік тому +3

    Interesting...TFS