Exo look how far weve come together i remember watching on my inlaws cpu and you. Literally would throw stuff in to friends and family cars just to see wat it would do. man time flys!!!!
When setting the gains in this manner, the load should be connected to the output of the amplifier. The no-load voltage at the output is much higher than the voltage with load. The method used here will still yield clipped/saturated output signals to the woofers which you were initially trying to avoid. That aside, good video!
You should try cutting up old RCA female and male ends, strip down the insulation, separate positive and negative, and use that to connect to the RCA cables rather than the alligator clips. Its much faster and safer. I tune my system the same way with a oscilloscope, its the only true way to go, gives you more insight as to what is going on in your sound system than any other tool.
I was thinking the same thing instead of those alligator clips lol I have a set of "patch cables" for everything I could ever want to test to avoid using those damn clips
How’s it going brother! Been learning so much from you and your vids, thank you for your time and effort! Got a request: I’m someone who has a factory head unit, an Audiocontrol Lc2i, an Audiocontrol bass restorer, and an aftermarket amplifier. I’m sure I’m not the only one with the extra bells and whistles :) Can you please teach us where to start checking for clipping, and where to go after each step until we’re done tuning for clipping? Thanks again brother!!
hey exo ..I found out something crazy....I was metering my blazer (1 crossfire xs SPL v1 18 on a 1997 RF 500.2 clamped 470w @1.4 ) and I peaked at 44 with the port fireing the hatch and I peaked at 36 with the port fireing forward and the seats layed down and dropped .9 db on the 36hz peak 👍👍
Thinking about the imbalance on the 4 channel, is it possible to have an inconstant read by alligator clip to loose grub screws? May be better off with a bare wire lead or probe tip actually clamped into the amp's terminals.
Good point. I also think it would be a better readout with a dummy load connected, or if you don't mind the noise, with the actual speakers connected. Turn up the volume until clipping. Or just listen, if you're not deaf allready lol.
To really ensure you're clean of distortion, the load certainly plays a role. The amp can either run out of voltage or current-driving capability and it'll clip.
you would have to take off the case bottom of the amp and find out which potentiometer controls what channel... theres secondary pots in the amp that are the fine tune for the outputs and you can match the gains so they have the same output on the main pots on the outside of the amplifier per set of channels
QUESTION: What does it mean when on the oscilloscope at the top of every wave my amp shows a thick crinkly snow-like cap as if a mountain top covered in snow?? I'm setting my gains before clipping and it constantly shows these snow-top mountain like waves. If I were to guess, it would equate to a dirty 8,000 RMS watts but before I jump to conclusions I thought I should ask the AMP PRO (that's you!). I have screenshots of it I could email you if helpful. THANK YOU!
what's up bro I'm in the process of getting my system up and running. all I need is xs power battery and a aternator. and what is your review on the crescendo 2000 watt amp. thanks bro
Good video but when setting the amp gain i'm pretty sure it should be done with the amps under load. Setting the output just below clipping gets in the ballpark but without a load isn't really very accurate. The amps WILL clip at a lower voltage under load.
I installed my amps and speakers had "professional " tune amps..he burnt my woofer up smelled.. crustchfield said set it to 26 volts. My scope tool said I can turn it up. Your thoughts?
had same thing happen. my shop said he tuned it said it can go to max no clipping. bought o scope cause i dont trust anyone sure enough it clips at 16/35
Okay, one thing he isn't mentioning in these videos is even though these amps are tunned so they don't clip, you can still overpower your subwoofer/speakers. You've gotta remember these systems are designed for comps. If you're cruising around just listening to music I doubt you'll be hitting 151db. Tune to find the clipping point of the amplifier then adjust the gain so you're getting the maximum rms voltage of your subwoofer/speaker. Use ohms law. I would also install a bass knob so you don't have to mess with your preamps. Just what one guy is thinging. But since EXO doesn't respond we don't know why he tunes amps the way he does.
Nbe nice to know how to wire all this stuff,radio to eq ,eq to amp , amp in to speakers or anything else that I'm missing out on,like that knob to turn up the bass all the way,,, EXO help
Does it matter if the vehicle is running or not? Should it be running and producing enough amperage to feed the amp to get max output? I ask cause if your running off the battery at 12v, set everything to gat max clean power then later while your driving and amp getting 14v+ wouldn't cranking the volume to max cause issues?
NvTwist I don't think there would be an issue. You're just sending more power and it's tuned to be clean at less power, so it will be under tuned at full power
amorton94 I wonder because let's say the amp is dialed/tuned to & outputing 600w (voltage output measured) while @ 12v then after starting and running on alt @14v+ would the output remain at the previous voltage measurement/watts as before. I'd think the readings would be higher which means over driving speakers. I'm aware the difference wouldn't be enough to create any issues or damage the drivers. Just a thought I had and when you go to such lengths to perfect the system setup it could be worth a look or test. I'm not running my system Setup to perfection or competition but there are those that do which is why my questioning came up in my head. Maybe I'll test the theory myself one day but it's to damn hot in vegas during the summer so it'll have to wait till fall.
Subsonic means your subwoofer won't play anything below that note. Just like a high pass filter but for lower frenquencies. I've seen a lot of amps that have one setting at 25hz. I usually go between 6 to 8 hz lower than my tuning frequency
usually factory radios has something that automatically lowers the voltage on the driver side of the car to compensate for the distance of the passenger speaker this amp might have the same set up for the left and right terminals
You should take a female RCA and wire it so that you can just plug any male end into it, rather than having to use the alligator clips. Am I making sense?? Kinda tough to put what I'm picturing into words.
Should I use a bass knob or the sub level on a headunit I noticed with my knob with it in the bass is not as loud vs with it out it’s louder also I believe it distorted pretty easily when using bass knob
What if your speakers are lower rms than your amplifier puts out? I just bought a 4 channel amp putting 100 watts x4 channels at 4ohms and im hooking up some mids/tweets to it rated for 40 watts. Using some maths I figured my voltage should be about 12.64, so if I used an o-scope thats what I should use?
Yes EXO, I downloaded that app tht you use to meter the spl on systems, I tried it in my home system, the same app , when I turned it up the dbs didn't go up I tried to connect it but it didn't want to Can you help me please?
The app is to be used with a special microphone that can accurately measure the db's. Didn't you hear him say we got the SSA meter up on the dash.Your phones microphone is wimpy and can't measure accurately anything over 100 decibels. It's common sense that the phone mic is not strong enough. Haven't you ever seen a you tube video of a concert. The sound quality is always distorted because of the extreme SPL at a rock concert. It's just flapping all around while trying to record loud SPL. Perfectly fine for talking though which is what phones are really meant for, even the smart ones LoL.
With two completely different mono amps for subs(one 400w on one sub in single box and one 2000w on two subs in a dual box) would you still just make the gains the same?
So I'm guessing it doesn't matter the ohm load ? I mean if u set the gain is it going to be the same "clean signal" whether 4 ohm or 1 ohm?? Sorry kinda new using a tool and not eats to set amps
In the third row? With box rise? With low voltage? With music? With subs that are just breaking in? If yes to all of the above, then good for you. That's awesome.
you still clip on: high transient kicks in music, bass that is at a higher db in the song than the test tone you used, clipping indicator will show you while playing, but limiter is your best bet , sound.westhost.com/project53.htm
Does anyone ever have any trouble running subs and the factory ac on my 93 f150 i have 2 12in subs but when i turn on my ac it blows worm and the bass doesn't hit as hard im only using the factory battery and alternator should i upgrade it?
Keeping your battery charged will keep the load off alternator. That will keep you from upgrading and stressing it. Capacities are dangerous in my opinion. Mine didn’t work bad $40. Make sure you look at big 3. That will let you look at your engine plus you can add bigger wire ie big3. It will be easy to read about. You can check battery first if any corrosion. Oh and your grounding for subs. Multimeter will help that. Good luck plus see what others off of google have done with your car as far as upgrading
@@facetime9156 1000 rms per farad it works if you get a boss cap and do the numbers. I went from playing in the 12.6 range to 13.0 and up jamming harder. It don't stop dimming much or car electrical stuff. But when the amp needs its juice its the closest power provider. This means no power lost or drop for amp. Amps only tho. 4 12s w apmn audiopipe 1500s strapped and a 1000 watt amp for highs. 3 agm battery and 1 stock battery. Stock alt. 13.0 maxed....do the numbers.
exo i have see a clamp meter used also when finding the output of amps. whats a good one but cheap..lol ya i know. but want to get one but im not rich.
Use a line driver with an adjustable gain control on it. Audio pipe has one that is also made to support multiple amps. 3 inputs 9 outputs. Max 10v out put signal you can adjust to what your amplifier max signal input is. Also recommend getting an o-scope/DMM combo on amazon. like $60 bucks.
@exocontralto exactly why does he have fused + & - leads on the smaller amp or is that distribution blocks? ahh yea I see distro blocks, but guess it won't hurt for both fused. that is a first for me.... also is 40hz the recommended tone for setting or is it better for the hz your system is loudest, like my 4th uses 63hz & roughly 43 hz.
I’m working on Two projects and I believe by watching your videos I may need a 4” Dayton woofer. I’ve made a box about 16” wide and 8”deep. I an using one of the small T116 boards that is 125 x 125 x125 for bass. I ended up putting two 6” and two 4” water proof with built in tweeters and a Bazooka 8” woofer in it. The speaker sounds good for what I made the box for, to be able to hear the TV over our hot tub but the bass just isn’t good enough. I’m on a tight budget and have to save all I can. I didn’t put a port in the box but was wondering if a 4” Dayton wouldn’t be better? That’s the first thing I need you advice on. The second thing is I want to put a tub style setup on my golf cart using the same board and maybe all Dayton speaker. 4”pipe isn’t as noticeable and I could use up to 4” speakers in it. Basically I want it to have good clear bass not destroyed but have enough to enjoy the sound while using it. Could you please give me suggestions on setup and the model Dayton speakers I need for each project? The end on the Bluetooth amp rms was surprisingly there but the speakers won’t so I added the two 4” speakers and wired them in series. That got them to sounding as good as you can expect but I think the 8” Bazooka is just not a quality speaker. And on the pipe just let me know how many and if the Daytons are what I need. My email address is goodale@shtc.net thank! If you could help me out. I’d really appreciate it! I had to get the tub and cart because of my health issues! I am alone most of the time and enjoy music! Thanks again!
@EXOcontralto, Man this Video helped so much, just being able to see you connect "what to where" plus the good video quality, very nice sir, very nice. i do have some questions though, how do you find out what Frequency to play for each type of speaker, Sub, mid and tweeters? i know sub-woofers dont like higher than 80 and tweeters dont like lows, i understand that but what or where can i find the specific Hz. or is it just a play by ear thing? also is there anyway for you to show where the head unit's EQ was? did you tune that or just leave it were it comes stock? thanks!!! im new to this, but trying to learn as much as i can. thanks again!
Have you seen Barevids' video on setting amplifier gains? He showed us that amplifier gains that are set without being loaded (no speaker load attached) clip as soon as you attach the ohm load. Have you thought about that? Can you respond to that?
It's all dependent on multiple factors, not just the existence of a load. I've dealt with many amps that behave just fine. Would be an interest comparison video from each board to the next!
Great video I wish I had been able to see this process in real life when I was young. Would have made my life a lot easier on a few occasions. One thing that I am unclear on though is that you are measuring the voltage of the RCA out of the headunit and amp output with only the impedance of the Oscope- wouldn't the voltage be different when the circuits have a real world load on them? No one has mentioned this and it's surprising
Is there any way that you can connect me to this gentleman. I live in Vermont and judging by his license plate, he also lives in Vermont. I feel like I'm all alone out here with no bassheads in my area
Watched your other tuning video and used my oscope to tune my cheap BOSS 4 channel amp, 2 channels bridged are for my sub, other two run the mids/highs. It sounds really good! Can't wait to get a monoblock for the sub! Even budget audio can sound great when properly installed!
Another great video. EXO man you need your own audio shop.
He needs his own audio brand!
Exo look how far weve come together i remember watching on my inlaws cpu and you. Literally would throw stuff in to friends and family cars just to see wat it would do. man time flys!!!!
When setting the gains in this manner, the load should be connected to the output of the amplifier. The no-load voltage at the output is much higher than the voltage with load. The method used here will still yield clipped/saturated output signals to the woofers which you were initially trying to avoid. That aside, good video!
your videos on tuning are very good. easy to understand.
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!!!
You should try cutting up old RCA female and male ends, strip down the insulation, separate positive and negative, and use that to connect to the RCA cables rather than the alligator clips. Its much faster and safer. I tune my system the same way with a oscilloscope, its the only true way to go, gives you more insight as to what is going on in your sound system than any other tool.
I was thinking the same thing instead of those alligator clips lol I have a set of "patch cables" for everything I could ever want to test to avoid using those damn clips
what song is playing at 16:10
How’s it going brother!
Been learning so much from you and your vids, thank you for your time and effort!
Got a request: I’m someone who has a factory head unit, an Audiocontrol Lc2i, an Audiocontrol bass restorer, and an aftermarket amplifier. I’m sure I’m not the only one with the extra bells and whistles :)
Can you please teach us where to start checking for clipping, and where to go after each step until we’re done tuning for clipping?
Thanks again brother!!
You should tin your speaker wire leads at the speaker output on the amp to have full contact with all of the conductors.
The extra steps do make it all come together! Hard to convince most to take the time and do everything by the book ;)
I’ve always known them as ‘grub screws’ - maybe it’s a UK thing?
That meter read ouch at 4:01 LOL.
12:45 & 13:50 left/right balance setting in the head-unit?
I'm learning from this
hey exo ..I found out something crazy....I was metering my blazer (1 crossfire xs SPL v1 18 on a 1997 RF 500.2 clamped 470w @1.4 ) and I peaked at 44 with the port fireing the hatch and I peaked at 36 with the port fireing forward and the seats layed down and dropped .9 db on the 36hz peak 👍👍
that was really nice of u to do that fir him i just had someone do that for me last night
Thinking about the imbalance on the 4 channel, is it possible to have an inconstant read by alligator clip to loose grub screws? May be better off with a bare wire lead or probe tip actually clamped into the amp's terminals.
Good point. I also think it would be a better readout with a dummy load connected, or if you don't mind the noise, with the actual speakers connected. Turn up the volume until clipping. Or just listen, if you're not deaf allready lol.
I remember this guy from slam. It actually sounded damn nice before you tuned it.
A clipping sine wave becomes a square, not a saw (saw has WAY more harmonics). Wicked video as always, dude!
Who thinks EXO needs his own online shop like JP has.??? Thumbs up if you think it's a good idea!
exo seems like he can help a ton of people make great builds
+Just Chillin 👍🏼
Bro did you just spin that cardboard box on that mans hood 😂
Its a Chevy 💪
The little screws are called grub screws in UK too
it's like a dd1 and a cc1 and some built in one. very nice
I just saw this guy at Slamology, nice system! I am pretty sure he only had one alt though but I'd love to hear after! Too bad EXO wasn't there!
To really ensure you're clean of distortion, the load certainly plays a role. The amp can either run out of voltage or current-driving capability and it'll clip.
clipping and distortion
i do my system with SMD DD-1 more easy to use because you can plug the RCA right into it :)
left/right balance on the headunit maybe, for why the different output voltages on channels of the 4 channel amp?
Was the balance being used?...if you forgot to flatten that that could explain the voltage difference in the 4 channel.
I thought the same, gotta check out what settings the people use cause it's usually whack
you would have to take off the case bottom of the amp and find out which potentiometer controls what channel... theres secondary pots in the amp that are the fine tune for the outputs and you can match the gains so they have the same output on the main pots on the outside of the amplifier per set of channels
QUESTION: What does it mean when on the oscilloscope at the top of every wave my amp shows a thick crinkly snow-like cap as if a mountain top covered in snow?? I'm setting my gains before clipping and it constantly shows these snow-top mountain like waves. If I were to guess, it would equate to a dirty 8,000 RMS watts but before I jump to conclusions I thought I should ask the AMP PRO (that's you!). I have screenshots of it I could email you if helpful. THANK YOU!
What do you use to see it? Answr. 9:42
What do you use to hear it? Answr. 10:08
Now, lick your elbow while looking in the mirror. What do you see?
151. not bad. not bad at all. that's loud.
missing your weekly videos man! daily videos would just be insane....
so nice to see you still going strong, been watching you since I was 12 man haha
what's up bro I'm in the process of getting my system up and running. all I need is xs power battery and a aternator. and what is your review on the crescendo 2000 watt amp. thanks bro
why dont u need to test high on channel 3 and 4????? r u using a 0Db or -5 Db?
Hey EXO!! How goes it? Quick question can I tune a head unit and amps with just a multi meter? No scope?
Should have checked the balance on the radio to see if that was the issue on having more volts on some channels. I think it was a R/L issue.
Good video but when setting the amp gain i'm pretty sure it should be done with the amps under load. Setting the output just below clipping gets in the ballpark but without a load isn't really very accurate. The amps WILL clip at a lower voltage under load.
6:14 did the oscope just say ouch?
Yes sir, it did! Super smart scope there ;)
Pretty cool right lmao
'Too many volts. You are hurting me!'
Damn nice. Name of the songs please
excellent video. why did you don't use a preamp.
Did you check balance in the head unit?
Tuning mine today first time in my life with a meter big thanks
your improving car audio
I installed my amps and speakers had "professional " tune amps..he burnt my woofer up smelled.. crustchfield said set it to 26 volts. My scope tool said I can turn it up. Your thoughts?
had same thing happen. my shop said he tuned it said it can go to max no clipping. bought o scope cause i dont trust anyone sure enough it clips at 16/35
Okay, one thing he isn't mentioning in these videos is even though these amps are tunned so they don't clip, you can still overpower your subwoofer/speakers. You've gotta remember these systems are designed for comps. If you're cruising around just listening to music I doubt you'll be hitting 151db. Tune to find the clipping point of the amplifier then adjust the gain so you're getting the maximum rms voltage of your subwoofer/speaker. Use ohms law. I would also install a bass knob so you don't have to mess with your preamps. Just what one guy is thinging. But since EXO doesn't respond we don't know why he tunes amps the way he does.
so did you check the voltage of the 4 channel rca's before the amp? like you said the rca's could be screwing with the voltage
Nbe nice to know how to wire all this stuff,radio to eq ,eq to amp , amp in to speakers or anything else that I'm missing out on,like that knob to turn up the bass all the way,,, EXO help
name of first song on test drive?!
Here in Australia we call em Grub Screws
Exo what if i dont have a fluke how can i tune my 4 channel.
That's the exact same setup I'm working on now except I'm running Taramp amps and Resilient Sounds 12" subs.
Does it matter if the vehicle is running or not? Should it be running and producing enough amperage to feed the amp to get max output?
I ask cause if your running off the battery at 12v, set everything to gat max clean power then later while your driving and amp getting 14v+ wouldn't cranking the volume to max cause issues?
NvTwist I don't think there would be an issue. You're just sending more power and it's tuned to be clean at less power, so it will be under tuned at full power
amorton94 I wonder because let's say the amp is dialed/tuned to & outputing 600w (voltage output measured) while @ 12v then after starting and running on alt @14v+ would the output remain at the previous voltage measurement/watts as before. I'd think the readings would be higher which means over driving speakers. I'm aware the difference wouldn't be enough to create any issues or damage the drivers. Just a thought I had and when you go to such lengths to perfect the system setup it could be worth a look or test. I'm not running my system Setup to perfection or competition but there are those that do which is why my questioning came up in my head. Maybe I'll test the theory myself one day but it's to damn hot in vegas during the summer so it'll have to wait till fall.
Man this video was so fuck dope exo 5 years ago omg keep up the good work can't do with out you learned so much from you
how do you set the subsonic and lpf
Subsonic means your subwoofer won't play anything below that note. Just like a high pass filter but for lower frenquencies. I've seen a lot of amps that have one setting at 25hz. I usually go between 6 to 8 hz lower than my tuning frequency
usually factory radios has something that automatically lowers the voltage on the driver side of the car to compensate for the distance of the passenger speaker this amp might have the same set up for the left and right terminals
You should take a female RCA and wire it so that you can just plug any male end into it, rather than having to use the alligator clips. Am I making sense?? Kinda tough to put what I'm picturing into words.
what about gain overlap odb on the deck didnt see it 10db 4 the woffers 5 4 the mids what happend
Yukons are fkn amazing for stereos. Great acoustic
This did sound pretty good for what it was, too!
Can you do a short vid on tuning a amp for speakers that are 900 watts rms?
Should I use a bass knob or the sub level on a headunit I noticed with my knob with it in the bass is not as loud vs with it out it’s louder also I believe it distorted pretty easily when using bass knob
I thought the speakers were supposed to be disconnected while setting the gain levels with a DMM or oscope?
No sir
His balance adjustment probably wasnt center... might be why voltage on one side of front stage was off than the other.
What if your speakers are lower rms than your amplifier puts out? I just bought a 4 channel amp putting 100 watts x4 channels at 4ohms and im hooking up some mids/tweets to it rated for 40 watts. Using some maths I figured my voltage should be about 12.64, so if I used an o-scope thats what I should use?
exo did you check voltage at high RCA's. didn't see you do that in video. that could be where the voltage difference is
Holy shit good job man I really wish you were in jersey so I can take my shit to you to tune . They fucking sound clean as hell
Could the voltage mismatch on the vocal amp be from the HU fade settings? Or RCA connection/impedance?
Yes EXO, I downloaded that app tht you use to meter the spl on systems, I tried it in my home system, the same app , when I turned it up the dbs didn't go up
I tried to connect it but it didn't want to
Can you help me please?
lol
The app is to be used with a special microphone that can accurately measure the db's. Didn't you hear him say we got the SSA meter up on the dash.Your phones microphone is wimpy and can't measure accurately anything over 100 decibels. It's common sense that the phone mic is not strong enough. Haven't you ever seen a you tube video of a concert. The sound quality is always distorted because of the extreme SPL at a rock concert. It's just flapping all around while trying to record loud SPL. Perfectly fine for talking though which is what phones are really meant for, even the smart ones LoL.
With two completely different mono amps for subs(one 400w on one sub in single box and one 2000w on two subs in a dual box) would you still just make the gains the same?
yes
So I'm guessing it doesn't matter the ohm load ? I mean if u set the gain is it going to be the same "clean signal" whether 4 ohm or 1 ohm?? Sorry kinda new using a tool and not eats to set amps
b1782w The output will be set optimally for those different ohm loads as well. Amplifiers are always experiencing changes in impedance.
it's joke? i have a 152.5 at 37 hz with 2x12" and one 5.5k amp)
p.s. Hello in Russia,bro)
like your vids) we following!
In the third row?
With box rise?
With low voltage?
With music?
With subs that are just breaking in?
If yes to all of the above, then good for you.
That's awesome.
+Friends Are Overrated 2х12 subs, 140 liters ported box, 12 volt system, on music.
awg on 30 sec. 151.5 db on 37 hz.
Were did you get yours at it want the same kind you have i can't find it? ????
you still clip on:
high transient kicks in music,
bass that is at a higher db in the song than the test tone you used,
clipping indicator will show you while playing, but
limiter is your best bet
, sound.westhost.com/project53.htm
What about phase ?
Does anyone ever have any trouble running subs and the factory ac on my 93 f150 i have 2 12in subs but when i turn on my ac it blows worm and the bass doesn't hit as hard im only using the factory battery and alternator should i upgrade it?
With just 2 12's you shouldnt need an upgraded alternator, maybe try adding a farad capacitor or a deep cycle battery between the amp and cars batt.
Keeping your battery charged will keep the load off alternator. That will keep you from upgrading and stressing it. Capacities are dangerous in my opinion. Mine didn’t work bad $40. Make sure you look at big 3. That will let you look at your engine plus you can add bigger wire ie big3. It will be easy to read about. You can check battery first if any corrosion. Oh and your grounding for subs. Multimeter will help that. Good luck plus see what others off of google have done with your car as far as upgrading
@@facetime9156 1000 rms per farad it works if you get a boss cap and do the numbers. I went from playing in the 12.6 range to 13.0 and up jamming harder. It don't stop dimming much or car electrical stuff. But when the amp needs its juice its the closest power provider. This means no power lost or drop for amp. Amps only tho. 4 12s w apmn audiopipe 1500s strapped and a 1000 watt amp for highs. 3 agm battery and 1 stock battery. Stock alt. 13.0 maxed....do the numbers.
i need a box for 2 15 in kicker cop vx for a 03 yukon any ideas
Damn exo I'm on my way for you to tune my stuff up!!
I only have 2 15s on 1200 watts but if I came to you could you tune it?
Old video but could it be that he had the headunit balanced to right side that caused the voltage drop?
What were the songs the dude played?
What app your using your phone for the frequency ?? And do the have it for iPhone ??
Hay EXO. The screws in your amps you call worm screws are actually called grub screws.
exo i have see a clamp meter used also when finding the output of amps. whats a good one but cheap..lol ya i know. but want to get one but im not rich.
Sanford NC was just there at John Deer
how big should my fourth order be for four alpine type r 12 s
Don’t you use Ohms Law to find the optimum voltage for the speaker
Yes you can if you're using a multimeter that doesn't show scopes
So you are losing one tenth of a volt along that length of rca cable the further away you go from the head unit. What is the fix for this.
C H Thicker wire could potentially fix it but you are always going to lose a small amount of voltage no matter how thick the wire is
Use a line driver with an adjustable gain control on it. Audio pipe has one that is also made to support multiple amps. 3 inputs 9 outputs. Max 10v out put signal you can adjust to what your amplifier max signal input is. Also recommend getting an o-scope/DMM combo on amazon. like $60 bucks.
You should do a sine sweep on the ion
Fuse before amp ground?
What about the DD-1 from SMD?
the song at 16:10
twank star-Radio thug (slowed)
@exocontralto exactly why does he have fused + & - leads on the smaller amp or is that distribution blocks?
ahh yea I see distro blocks, but guess it won't hurt for both fused.
that is a first for me....
also is 40hz the recommended tone for setting or is it better for the hz your system is loudest, like my 4th uses 63hz & roughly 43 hz.
exo what if i dont have anything to tune the amp. cause i dont have money for a tune.
Kolton Ives Your ears are the best and most affordable tuning tool you can get :)
hey kolton sonicelectronix has a great video on setting gain by ear
I’m working on Two projects and I believe by watching your videos I may need a 4” Dayton woofer. I’ve made a box about 16” wide and 8”deep. I an using one of the small T116 boards that is 125 x 125 x125 for bass. I ended up putting two 6” and two 4” water proof with built in tweeters and a Bazooka 8” woofer in it. The speaker sounds good for what I made the box for, to be able to hear the TV over our hot tub but the bass just isn’t good enough. I’m on a tight budget and have to save all I can. I didn’t put a port in the box but was wondering if a 4” Dayton wouldn’t be better? That’s the first thing I need you advice on. The second thing is I want to put a tub style setup on my golf cart using the same board and maybe all Dayton speaker. 4”pipe isn’t as noticeable and I could use up to 4” speakers in it. Basically I want it to have good clear bass not destroyed but have enough to enjoy the sound while using it. Could you please give me suggestions on setup and the model Dayton speakers I need for each project? The end on the Bluetooth amp rms was surprisingly there but the speakers won’t so I added the two 4” speakers and wired them in series. That got them to sounding as good as you can expect but I think the 8” Bazooka is just not a quality speaker. And on the pipe just let me know how many and if the Daytons are what I need. My email address is goodale@shtc.net thank! If you could help me out. I’d really appreciate it! I had to get the tub and cart because of my health issues! I am alone most of the time and enjoy music! Thanks again!
Have you had a Chance to use the NANO OSCOPE? I see them on eBay, just wondering how well they work. I'm just looking to tune my system.
@EXOcontralto, Man this Video helped so much, just being able to see you connect "what to where" plus the good video quality, very nice sir, very nice. i do have some questions though, how do you find out what Frequency to play for each type of speaker, Sub, mid and tweeters? i know sub-woofers dont like higher than 80 and tweeters dont like lows, i understand that but what or where can i find the specific Hz. or is it just a play by ear thing? also is there anyway for you to show where the head unit's EQ was? did you tune that or just leave it were it comes stock? thanks!!! im new to this, but trying to learn as much as i can. thanks again!
Have you seen Barevids' video on setting amplifier gains? He showed us that amplifier gains that are set without being loaded (no speaker load attached) clip as soon as you attach the ohm load. Have you thought about that? Can you respond to that?
It's all dependent on multiple factors, not just the existence of a load. I've dealt with many amps that behave just fine. Would be an interest comparison video from each board to the next!
How does this factor into dsp tuning? do this before?
What model number is the head unit?
Great video I wish I had been able to see this process in real life when I was young. Would have made my life a lot easier on a few occasions. One thing that I am unclear on though is that you are measuring the voltage of the RCA out of the headunit and amp output with only the impedance of the Oscope- wouldn't the voltage be different when the circuits have a real world load on them? No one has mentioned this and it's surprising
Is there any way that you can connect me to this gentleman. I live in Vermont and judging by his license plate, he also lives in Vermont. I feel like I'm all alone out here with no bassheads in my area
Watched your other tuning video and used my oscope to tune my cheap BOSS 4 channel amp, 2 channels bridged are for my sub, other two run the mids/highs. It sounds really good! Can't wait to get a monoblock for the sub! Even budget audio can sound great when properly installed!
can u explain on what to do if theres tweeters ran off a 4 channel amp please?
Same thing just use 3k-12k tone maybe
@@casemods i used a 10k tone for tweeters and a 1k for mids