*TRIAL NOTES:* 00:00:00 MS v. Carly Gregg Day 3 00:10:55 ON THE RECORD 00:11:07 Carly Gregg Speaks 00:20:36 Juvenile defense witness 1 - S.K. 00:41:19 Defense Witness 2 - Heath Smylie, defendant’s stepfather, surviving victim 01:03:35 Defense Witness 3 - Deputy Tony Shack, Criminal Interdiction Unit, Rankin County Sheriff’s Office 03:05:31 Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist, based in Cambridge, MA 06:18:35 Motion to Exclude Testimony 06:29:52 CROSS: Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist 07:59:41 Redirect: Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist #CourtTV What do YOU think? MS v. #CarlyGregg #DeadlyDaughterMurderTrial MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/carly-gregg/?
To say she didn’t know right from wrong is a horrible defense after stating how she’s so smart she’s skipped grades. 🙄 Even the dogs knew it was wrong. 😡
Yes and seeing her hide the gun behind her back going in and out of the kitchen proves she was fully aware of what she was doing. A crazy person would not even realize the cameras were there but she knew the camera was there and hid the gun behind her back hiding it from the camera. GUILTY of cold blooded murder!
Carly saw her mom looking through her room for the extra phone and vape pens so Carly went to her mothers room and got the gun, went back and shot her mother. It was not a mental episode.
It was like who do you think you are looking through my things?? I will show you. She then went and got the gun and nonchalantly walked into the kitchen with the gun behind her back. She did not look like she was “possessed” or in the throws of psychosis. She then used her mom’s phone to text her stepdad like she was her and waited for him to arrive…all the while showing off her handiwork to her friends. When her stepdad arrives and she shoots him, she is screaming because she failed to execute him as well. She knew that her plan to kill him too was gone and she had to now create a ruse to try and deflect from the cold blooded murder and attempted murder she just committed…that is in my most humble opinion. I just hope that the jury gets it right and convicts her as everyone seems to have forgotten about the real victim in all of this…Ashley Smiley. Her grandparents and stepdad seem to have forgotten that fact seeing their actions in the courtroom.
@@domaybotha8572 That is true our animals know the exact times of our deaths. I'm willing to bet he the stepfather will get rid of them, cause they will not act right with him or that psychopath daughter, she'll be in. Jail, unlike where she thinks she will end up, home like she thought she'd be. We know she planned it and not very well either. I'm gonna step out now, I'll let Vinnie Politan take it from here. R.I.P. MOTHER
Stepdad seems overly protective of Carly. Wife died 6 months ago and he shows no grief yet shows “love” towards stepdaughter. Make it make sense, please.
I think he believes Ashley wouldn’t want Carly to have thrown away her life and is doing what he can believing it’s his wife’s wishes. Maybe mislead but it could be part of his healing process.
Step dad looks “blunted.” He is not showing much emotion at all, which is not unusual for people who have been through a hard time. His smiles to Carly are also muted. Everything is low energy, so he is not inconsistent in his behavior.
@@michelebosserman2680 I just want know, I drink cokes all day. I know every can or bottle sizes, how long does a can of coke last? She. drank from that can for an hour, that was to keep us from noticing her starting to get anxious and unsure of her plan unfolding the way she thought it would. Well they gave her the freedom from her mother's clutches, nobody is gonna tell her what to do now, they are gonna show her in the harshest of ways. Life is a long time, especially when your not even twenty yet. She'll get her street creds now. Everybody at school talking about crazy Carly. That stepdad couldn't even look at her cause he sure getting ready to get PAID!
Just watched day 2 again and after seeing the video how she looked for where her mom was, then went to get the gun hiding it behind her back, then shooting her mom and hides the gun from the camera behind her back as she comes back in the kitchen and calls her friend" Just her being totally aware of the camera like that proves she knew exactly what she was doing! I am glad that little monster is being tried as an adult! She is a cold blooded murderer! horrid!
Weird how she suddenly came clean about her command hallucinations and said she had them at the time of the murder even though she apparently dissociated and doesn't remember the crime....
You know I hope psychiatrists realize that sometimes these teenagers can play them as well. That's pretty much why we have convicted killers and rapists back on the streets doing it again after psychiatrist evaluated them to be normal
They do know if they’re good at their job, this psychiatrist definitely addressed that and gets it. It’s common when working in mental health to have to weed out the game players, but it can be really challenging.
@@5GreenAcres He’s interesting though, well to me he is because I love this field. I think too, he just wants to be very clear with his answers and explanations.
She did not expect Carly to have killed her mom. She did not believe there was a dead body until she saw it. And how do you expect a teenager to deal with that situation? it’s a very rare teenager who is mentally prepared to deal with being alone with a person who has a gun and who just blew their own mother’s face away. She would’ve been in shock. She would’ve been terrified. She would’ve been confused. She would not have known what to do.
I love this judge. Very organized and knowledgeable! If only the attorneys were. I feel so sorry for the judge. He is ready to pound his head against the bench at the delays.
After seeing/hearing the video of Carly in the house with her mother, hearing the 3 shots that killed the mother, watching Carly walking around with something behind her back, and watching the dogs look uncomfortable, and hearing about her threats to school friends she wanted to kill her parents, her smoking marijuana and vaping, etc., I sure this spoiled teenager gets a very long sentence. I just don't see a strong case for mental illness or a recent change in medication being blamed for this.
@@sbaumgartner9848 Essa é a educação que a mãe deu para sua filha. Pais que não educam seus filhos, sofrem mais tarde. Ela é reflexo da educação que recebeu.
@@Mooshkie50able Sim. Mas, ser educado não quer dizer nada. Muitos psicopatas e sociopatas são extrememamente educados, carismáticos, falam baixo e são bons de papo; entretanto; mostram comportamentos incoerentes e bizarros. Não é possível que essa mãe não sabia do comportamento da filha. Essa mãe soltou demais. Essa filha não respeitava sua mãe. Por isso fez o que fez. Igual aquele Wade Wilson. Um rapaz perdido, que não teve direcionamento correto da sua família adotiva.
How did her mind go blank during the entire attack, and she doesn’t remember any of it? She only remembers just before and climbing out of a drainage ditch. BUT she told the cop yes she’s the one who did it and she didn’t mean to. AND she asked if her step-dad was okay. If she couldn’t remember and went blank, how would she know he was injured? Why would she say I didn’t mean to do it? She’s faking!!!
I see Carly taking notes on every psychiatric condition mentioned by the psychiatrist. I would like to have heard something on her lack of remorse. Zero emotion, except when the police came to the house. She cried for the step father. No emotion with the murder video of her mom. She learned what “auditory command hallucinations” are from this doctor. 🤨 She’s more intelligent than many. Gut tells me she is highly manipulative and devoid of emotion.
@@barbaravaters4989 AMEN, but you didn't get it from me. No crying except that one time when she heard them play 911 when her stepdad called all upset. I haven't seen her show anything towards feeling sorry for her mom, not a minute is she caring about mom, the only one she is thinking is herself. I feel sorry for her because she doesn't know sorrows like being without your mama, its one thing when someone else takes her life but you took your mother and when you are laying in that strange cold place, you will suffer love. You need to be saying how sorry you are to GOD for taking his child, your mother his daughter. What is done can't be undone. I hope someone in her camp tells her to pray like a child prays to save their- selves while they sleep.
@@Suzie-he9ni Yes, let’s continue talking about puppy dogs and we can add rainbows to make it all seem perfectly fine to murder her mother. The fact the dad is on her side, is quite confusing. It’s one thing to forgive someone, but this is BEYOND uncomfortable!
@@BellaLeoLicorice I couldn’t agree more. He’s praising her more than his wife. I don’t want to falsely accuse, but it has to be one of the strangest testimony I’ve heard. Well, maybe the dad and grandmother of that girl name Sidney, but this one is even crazier, in my opinion.
It feels like there’s something off between the 2 of them. I can’t put my finger on it. Was he in a relationship with Carly? Did they want Ashley out of the way. It’s so weird.
Yep...very wierd. His testimony is very strange. With state he was looking down whose time. Acting drugged to me. Smirking at Carly. Like love sick puppy. Did he want Carly to do it so convinced her? She wanted him to herself...why the camera in house? Wierdos.DEATH PENALTY
And the back door locked but step dad said she ran out the back. Who locked it? Funny how she could miss him and only a graze, why didn't she wait til he came in the door or house? He looked fake on the front porch. Something big is behind this missing. Dad knows at her age she wouldn't get much time. Something's wrong here imo
I think the State made their point with DR. He based all his findings on What Carly said, and she’s changed her story from before and after finding out she was being charged. She is COLD.
Doesn’t mean it’s not possible. Must people tolerate all kinds of medications. yet some cannot go anywhere near them. A ‘calming’ medication given to my autistic grandson , has the total opposite effect. I, myself hallucinate and get very ill from taking codeine. To say that this couldn’t happen is very short sighted given that you are a nurse. Granted you may not have witnessed such things, doesn’t mean we are all the same though and react the same to different chemicals put into our bodies. If we all reacted the same way… ie be calmed or whatever, why does every dry come with adverse affects lists etc and things to watch out for. 🤷♀️
The fact that she was on a taper down on one SSRI while simultaneously starting another SSRI is not the best practice and leads to a mucher high risk of serotonin syndrome. Also, I've personally been on both medications and Zoloft made me feel like a shell of myself and then Lexapro made me incredibly anxious and jumpy/fidgety
After watching the trial today and listening to stepdad, I wonder if he may have 2:08 put her up to it. "You're just a kid, they won't give you a long term" I'm just wondering 😮😢
@@judybailey9031really? He is smiling at her and he’s so cringe.. they talk everyday and he is making light of the murder like she stole a pack of gum he barley makes eye contact his affect is off from what he is saying he shows zero emotion at picture of dead wife but smiles at the picture of Carley with the dog
I feel there's something off about him. The murder was only 6 months ago and maybe he hasn't been able to process everything properly. Hard to say, not being in his shoes, but his affect just doesn't seem quite right.
I get some odd feelings on this little girl. Yes, she's a minor and looks innocent. But, I can see she could be very manipulative. The smile that step dad gave her was odd, too.
Stepdad is trying to be supportive of the child who he helped raised and feels responsible for since her mother, his wife, is no longer around to support her and he knows that is what she would have done. He is also in complete denial that the little girl he helps to raise his capable of such a horrific act, therefore, in his mind, it must have been a psychotic break. It’s pretty normal for people to support family members who have killed a loved one. And if that’s hard for you to wrap your mind around, imagine how much harder it must be to wrap your mind around the idea that somebody you cared about killed somebody you loved, and trying to sort that out while you’re still grieving the loss of your partner.
I’m from the UK and can’t get over how much craziness you guys deal with in the US, my aunt lives and California and agrees with me when I say there’s something in the water over there
I kept wondering if they were still in the room/ awake. I put in plenty of 'objection ! irrelevant's for them. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just wanted him to run his mouth off so they'd have plenty to pick apart.
Doc's question about her worrying about things the past 6 months was stupid. We all have worries about things over a 6 month period or more. Worry about stuff is a natural emotion of fear. Kids are so coddled these days. Life happens, get over it and adjust.
@@maryjackson.214 oh, meekness, I understand that. Of course. Their strategy was to make her look like a sixty-eight-year-old legal secretary with poor posture? Don’t be silly.
@@SISSYKAY agree....someplace last night i did see where they had the questions and answers going in closed caption, but was so hard to keep up with at times,,,
"What i learned was that Carly suffers from normal teenage issues and decided she was going to murder her mother to avoid consequences of her actions" this is insane.
Im late on watching this trial, but that hadn't crossed my mind yet. I have tried my hardest to not know the verdict as I don't want to spoil it for myself. But something doesn't sit right with me about the stepdad and Carly. Its weird. Maybe he forgave her but still all the smiles and smirks are kind of inappropriate in this situation.
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Is the video skipping for anyone else around the 2 1/2 hour mark?
Even if she is bipolar, that’s not an excuse for murder. I’m bipolar and have PTSD from severe abuse and I can’t imagine doing something like this. She knew exactly what she was doing and her home life was not horrible enough to drive her to murder. Hope she gets life.
I hope she gets the maximum sentence allowed. Sitting in court trying to look innocent 🙄 she knew what she was doing that day and she is trying to manipulate.
Hmm something ain’t right about the relationship… did anyone do a serious mental health assessment on both of them? What was really happening in that house? She could have asked to know if he was dead OR if he was alive bc it was a plot?? Idk something is just so off about him and her
Judge asks for other witnesses, defense says they have none, carly looks at female attny says "not me?" And she looked at her like child please, and mouthed no. PUT HER ON THE STAND.
So the step dad who is testifying for her, giving her smiles and weird lovingly looks, saying she was being her pleasant self etc, he is a physical therapist? So he knows the body well And he got shot in the best possible through and through spot? A spot where he could have shot himself? He then tells the police she is wearing a grey shirt and not a blue one? How certain are we that this man-who apparently shows more love and affection for Carly who shot him than he does for his murdered wife- isnt a major part of this??? Didn't anyone in his family tell him how flat out weird it is that he is testifying this stuff? Didn't anyone warn him that it will make him look guilty.
@@BrandySunnenberg It just occured to me that it wouldn‘t make any sense for Carly to call her friend over after she killed her mother, but she told the friend she was about to kill the stepfather when he came home - doesn‘t make any sense either, unless Carly and her stepdad planed the whole thing, and the friend was called so they can testify that Carly was going to kill the stepdad - otherwise he would be a suspect, too.
@@НастяСорокина-п3з yes! That is what makes sense. My nephew's half sister actually shot her own father in the face and killed him a few years ago. She turned 18 and got out of jail last year. No one knows why she really did it because there was no physical, sexual or mental abuse from her dad in any way. Most people think maybe her mom put her up to it. That's part of why I think this guy might have put her up to it.
For the stepdad being nice talking to her for a couple of years his being with her mom I think they both know what they did let's see how far this will go
Very fishy ... if he grabbed the gun and shot himself because she chickened out of that part of the plan it would explain her crazy screaming and running away and why she questioned how he was.
@@BellaLeoLicoriceexactly . I do believe though that he came in between Carly and her mum , probably interested in Carly but had to marry mum to look feasible . Her behaviours are like someone whose been brainwashed and groomed. It’s easy to go down this track I know… because we cannot fathom these actions of a fourteen year old girl who before him , had a very loving relationship. The sad fact is , this 💩is more common than we know . So not hard to come to these kind of conclusions. The fact that he is seriously creepy and way to ‘into’ Carly is vomit inducing. 🤮🤮🤮
Her stepfather is creepy the way that he smiles at her it's only been 6 months since this has and he is so forgiving something isn't right why all the cameras and why all of the guns left out if they knew that she suffered from depression what about a life insurance policy and how much just don't add up if he is involved they both need to be locked up for good
The defense is trying to pull a fast one with their psychiatric expert. Here’s why: 1. Saying he wont offer his opinion or draw conclusions because that’s “not his role”might just be the stupidest thing I’ve heard from an expert witness on the stand. Using his expertise to form opinions and make findings is literally the exact job of an expert witness. Even if one can’t determine something, that’s a conclusion! It’s not a juries’ job to form those conclusions because they aren’t experts. The juries’ job is to consider all evidence and testimony and weight it out in terms of the charges. 2. Defense was admonished by the judge for not producing a psychiatric expert within a reasonable period of time. Essentially, they could not find an expert to say that Carly was NGRI. 3. The best the defense could do was find this guy who is feigning reverence for the role of the jury to cover the fact that he CANNOT and WILL NOT say on the stand, that Carly is NGRI. 4. He did a four hour interview and reviewed some records, this is subpar at best. We have many well designed and standardized tools to assess whether someone is faking, diminishing, being defensive, even lying to themselves about mental health symptoms! He didn’t use a single one? 5. People who have auditory hallucinations, tend not to describe them as “voice in my head” but describe actual auditory hallucinations or as delusions where they believe the government, witches, aliens, etc are inserting or controlling thoughts. An internal dialogue in someone’s head is simply that. It’s common for people with depression or anxiety to experience their internal dialogue as very intrusive, but it’s not a hallucination. 6. He’s throwing out tons of random information that has no bearing on anything and only serves to confuse the jury. I just about lost it when he started going on about fugue states. 7. Even if we all agree Carly has all these diagnoses and is psychotic, unless this was completely controlling her at the time of the murder, then she’s not NGRI. It’s beyond telling that he won’t attest to this on the stand. PS - people get diagnosed with personality disorders all the time.
Why isn't anyone looking into her and the stepfather I think he molested her and being bipolar maybe she fell in love with him wanted her mom out of the way the only one she was worried about was him and they were showing lots of love at court when he was talking about them
Ok, let me get this straight...If Carly's parents knew she had a mental disorder WHY would they have a pew pew where she could get to it? Shouldn't the step father be indicted for this un alive of the mother too? After all, we have two parents that are sitting in prison for the same thing.
If you have all of these symptoms of manic depression or manic bipolar , these symptoms don’t develop overnight , if she had had testing before for her behaviour , others would pick up on this . Putting the video camera in the fridge , I’m thinking her mind was working well then to call a friend to come over to see her mom , would that be bragging that she did it? Getting into drugs changing her hole demeanour to show her friends how cool she was. I’m really trying to not sound cruel but I still believe this girl planned this,
Neither of her attorneys seem to be fond of her. Nor does she seem surprised they're not! 😮there is a huge back story to this we know nothing about. Seems like she has been treated as an adult fot quite some time even though she is a minor.
she knew exactly what she was doing and played this guy100% because she knew what her dad was diagnose with and use that for herself! This girl needs to go to jail, danger to society.
If I was still a drinker, I almost wanted to take a shot every time he said "Carly told me". I think I would have been on the floor passed out by time he was one hour into his testimony.
I think it's because they have been having a sexual relationship and she chickened out of shooting him as per their plan. He grabbed the gun, shot himself, she screamed and ran off and was petrified he had hurt himself too much.
I think she had to know so that she could figure out how to spin things since there would be a survivor and witness. No need to ask about mom cause she already knew mom was gone.
This judge is excellent. He doesn't take any crap and be is wise enough to know how much slack to give to avoid the case being overturned on appeal. I like him.
Well i wonder she went straight to the unsecured gun should stepdad be charged too the only difference between this and a school shooting is they were not at school . Isnt that the point the courts are trying to make now.
No one just "randomly" shoots their parent. Something is off. There 100% has to be a motive. We don't know what happened in that house. Why were there cameras in the home? Were there other cameras? Something doesn't make sense.
I laughed as the "expert" came out with every useful diagnosis in the book. (DSM - 5) Was he implying she had DID as well? They've probably got Letecia Hardin (Stauch}'s favourite expert, Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis lining up to shore up that diagnosis. It is laughable that defence counsel can buy experts like this to tell them what they want to hear. Thank goodness the prosecutor set a few things straight. Dr expert will hopefully be questioning his own ideas about dissociative memory loss now. The other truly hilarious part was when the expert said with a perfectly straight face that she was experiencing command hallucinations at the time of the crime. She had denied it to him as he carefully explained exactly what they were and then went back to jail and finally fessed up. I'd like to know how this kid got her nipple pierced. I thought she'd need a parent's permission and supervision for that. How did she pay for the marijuana? She seems awfully fond of her stepdad, just saying.
If there is insurance money and if she is found guilty I wonder how friendly she will be with her stepdad because she won't get a penny of the insurance money
If you have all of these symptoms of manic depression or manic bipolar , these symptoms don’t develop overnight , if she had had testing before for her behaviour , others would pick up on this . Putting the video camera in the fridge , I’m thinking her mind was working well then to call a friend to come over to see her mom , would that be bragging that she did it? Getting into drugs changing her hole demeanour to show her friends how cool she was.
Rewarch crew!! I am eye rolling through the defense doctor, whom is reaching out of the solar system to diagnose but not diagnose Carly with PTSD, BiPolar 2, blah blah blah. BiPolar people are impulsive, not patient and calculating.
The defense attorney was trying to throw out every single mental issue title under the sun just to see if the jury would just pick one out of the hat and go with the flow.
These doctors that are hired to evaluate murderers and Claim after four hours of spending with them in jail that they are innocent because they can’t remember doing it should lose their license. They are money grabbers.
Oh. As for the defense saying she didnt know right from wrong. I am sure she did. At least reasonably sure. She chose wrong for a reason folks. What was it?
She knew EXACTLY what she was doing, and she was super calm which is super alarming!!! She planned this... its so obvious!! Her defense team is useless to be honest.... there's no point in their cross examination. Pointless really. And I feel weird vibes between her and the stepdad.... something is just not right... more concerned about him.
I swear i don't think i've ever seen a competent judge so frustrated at incompetent atty's who are supposed to be organized for a murder trial 🫣 Hey Atty's! Judge Dewey K. Arthur runs a very efficient courtroom, so how about you all come to court very well prepared or even overly prepared !
I believe her father planted that mess in her head. I don’t know why the courts allow unsupervised visitation with mentally ill drug users or questionable non-custodial parents. I am speaking from experience. I had a judge who didn’t think the father was capable of taking care of the child or providing him with the mental stability he needed. He also indicated the absolute hatred this cheating, no bill paying individual had for the mother. He wouldn’t give him custody or allow joint custody, but mandated that this narcissistic individual have regular unsupervised visitation. The father also was mandated to meet the mother in a public location to exchange the child. A child is the best gift you can give to a narcissistic, manipulative psychopath. He will definitely use this child against you
Bottom line it was not OK for what she did. So many of us want parents like that, who treat us good and not like crap! She was lucky! It's like *Sydney* Or *Ambuser Turd* No! She was wrong. Carly Looked in her room saw her mother looking around turned around and walked back to the other side of the house and got the pistol Came back and did what she did It's Terribly sad what she did!! 😔🙏🏼
This smart young girl is calculated and cunning in her planning to kill mom and attempt to kill step dad. She even wanted to share her killing with her friends!!!
Carly’s dad creeps me out. That love sick smile while he looks at a picture of his dead wife and the spoiled teen that took her life. She told her friend that “ I just put 3 in my mom, and I have three for my stepdad when he gets home”. She knew what she was doing 100% of the time. I hope she stays in Prison for the rest of her life. RIP Ashley 😢💔🙏
Why is the defense attorney spending so much time on the body cam being turned off? Surely with all those other officers around there is another body cam he can watch to see what was said.
As a doctor who knows about research, I think that the person testifying about the state of mind of the defendant (the Psychiatrist) is not a credible witness. There is no literature that will neither suggest nor back the notion that a person that hides presumptive bad actions does not know the difference between right or wrong. What he says is ridiculous! Fortunately for the criminal prosecution, we have the conceptual and empirical frameworks of Consciousness' of Guilt. "As an axe leaves its mark in the speechless tree, so an evil deed leaves its mark in the evil doer's consciousness" (Wigmore, 1923 cited in Hutchins & Slesinger, 1929).
Clearly this is a spoiled child.. got EVERYTHING she wanted and more than she needed to include 2 loving parents.. she wanted attention from her friends which is why she called them to view her dead mums body.. I hope the jury gets it right and she’s locked up for VERY long time. I was sexually, emotionally and physically abused by my stepfather. I never killed him or my mother!! Is this what we have become.. you kill a loving mother because she takes ur phone away?!?! Disgusting!!
Somebody needs to tell the doctor that testified today that starting, virtually, every response with "so" is annoying and makes him appear undereducated. "So" stop it!
Totally …. But dare to state that in some of the chat and you’ll get put in your place. I go by gut instincts and at the moment let’s just say, my gut is screaming to me that things are not as they appear. Besides what took place that is.
I don't know much , but i think stepdaddy groomed carly , told her she a juvenile and won't go to jail if she kills her mother , then they can be toghter , i have a feeling this is long from over
bruh - the spin on medication theory is crazy, its clear to anybody that has senses in them that this girl is sociopathic if not psychopathic. period. the defense lawyer really wanna make that bucks huh -_-
I'm trying to figure out if they are trying to blame the medicine for her actions or if they're trying to blame the bulimia for her puking it all out of her system and not having any medication in her to manage her symptoms. Which is it???
I'm wondering if this stepfather has anything going on with this young girl, it wouldn't be the first, and it wont be the first time, and it wont be the last. Time will tell and it won't be the least. Has anyone else had this run through their mind, and just won't say it out loud as I have done. She got her mother spot on, but him he is not hurt and is in court making nice with the person who took his wife from him😮 he hasn't a thing about his wife yet.. not has he said a negative thing about his smilingly stepdaughter yet. Maybe it's because she didn't do much injury to him as they planned , only time will tell😊😊. I'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking, but not saying😢😢
Alot of people are saying it. It definitely hasn't gone unnoticed. They may not have anything on him and they're waiting for her to roll over on him after some time in prison. I have a feeling this story is definitely not over.
She hated her biological dad so much and feared him so much that she didn't kill him in self defense, she killed her mother, who got her away from him and away from the situation.
I just posted a similar comment on yesterday's video on this trial. This is common in the American south and it drives me nuts. They have very different meanings. So many of them say whenever when the proper word, given the context, is when. A lot of Floridians, and those from the Carolinas, etc., do this as well. It's a southern thing. The cops testiying yesterday did it throughout their testimony. Today, I'm annoyed by the way this defense attorney pronounces "Carly" but it's not wrong, of course, it's just her accent.
I used to litigate criminal defense cases. I have empathy for the defense team, because we do what we do because we have a passion for law. We either fight tooth and nail for their innocence, or if the circumstances doesn't allow that, we fight for a proportional sentence for the offense. This defense team seems without fight in some ways. That's why I have empathy, because it is clear their hands were pretty much tied from the get go with the information presented. It would seem they had a job to defend a girl that voices a defense poorly thought through, who, herself, is not adamant that her defense version + takes center stage. What a crappy set of facts to defend.
Is anyone else seeing every chance she can get she turns to look at older gentleman of jury and the talk back and forth especially when her attorney’s approach the bench
Will someone please tell me that the Jury is not directly beside her to the right. The older gentleman has talked to her through out this whole trial. Especially every time her attorneys approach the bench
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*TRIAL NOTES:*
00:00:00 MS v. Carly Gregg Day 3
00:10:55 ON THE RECORD
00:11:07 Carly Gregg Speaks
00:20:36 Juvenile defense witness 1 - S.K.
00:41:19 Defense Witness 2 - Heath Smylie, defendant’s stepfather, surviving victim
01:03:35 Defense Witness 3 - Deputy Tony Shack, Criminal Interdiction Unit, Rankin County Sheriff’s Office
03:05:31 Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist, based in Cambridge, MA
06:18:35 Motion to Exclude Testimony
06:29:52 CROSS: Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist
07:59:41 Redirect: Defense Witness 4 Dr. Andrew Clark, forensic psychiatrist
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To say she didn’t know right from wrong is a horrible defense after stating how she’s so smart she’s skipped grades. 🙄 Even the dogs knew it was wrong. 😡
I specifically remember being 14 and knowing right from wrong. Both of my parents drowned and my world was flipped upside down.
@@lindahandley5267 How horrible! I’m so sorry for your loss. 🥲🙏💔
Yes and seeing her hide the gun behind her back going in and out of the kitchen proves she was fully aware of what she was doing. A crazy person would not even realize the cameras were there but she knew the camera was there and hid the gun behind her back hiding it from the camera. GUILTY of cold blooded murder!
So sorry😢🙏
My husband while watching it said the very same thing even the dogs knew it was wrong and stayed away from her from then on
Carly saw her mom looking through her room for the extra phone and vape pens so Carly went to her mothers room and got the gun, went back and shot her mother. It was not a mental episode.
Thanks, I was trying to find a motive. I wonder what she thought would happen if her mom and stepdad were no longer alive?
Thanks I missed that.
She reacted to what her mother was doing, it’s almost like she took on that self-entitled “I’ll show you!” Attitude.
It was like who do you think you are looking through my things?? I will show you. She then went and got the gun and nonchalantly walked into the kitchen with the gun behind her back. She did not look like she was “possessed” or in the throws of psychosis. She then used her mom’s phone to text her stepdad like she was her and waited for him to arrive…all the while showing off her handiwork to her friends. When her stepdad arrives and she shoots him, she is screaming because she failed to execute him as well. She knew that her plan to kill him too was gone and she had to now create a ruse to try and deflect from the cold blooded murder and attempted murder she just committed…that is in my most humble opinion. I just hope that the jury gets it right and convicts her as everyone seems to have forgotten about the real victim in all of this…Ashley Smiley. Her grandparents and stepdad seem to have forgotten that fact seeing their actions in the courtroom.
@@MsFitz11my thoughts exactly! Well said.
She just wanted to do it. Period. There’s a difference between psychosis and psychopathy. Doesn’t seem like the former is at play here.
Was it ever decided why she murdered her mother? Did I miss this?
@@judybailey9031 it doesn't matter and none care because now its getting her to prison for life
@@judybailey9031not sure. I haven’t watched the entire trial.
Poor dogs are beside themselves . Someone should care and console or calm them.
They need therapy!
The dark golden knew his mom was gone. His tail stopped wagging
@@domaybotha8572 That is true our animals know the exact times of our deaths. I'm willing to bet he the stepfather will get rid of them, cause they will not act right with him or that psychopath daughter, she'll be in. Jail, unlike where she thinks she will end up, home like she thought she'd be. We know she planned it and not very well either. I'm gonna step out now, I'll let Vinnie Politan take it from here. R.I.P. MOTHER
I’ll bet the dogs were trying to lick Ashly’s wounds and that’s why she kept yelling at them to get out 😢
Stepdad seems overly protective of Carly. Wife died 6 months ago and he shows no grief yet shows “love” towards stepdaughter. Make it make sense, please.
I think he believes Ashley wouldn’t want Carly to have thrown away her life and is doing what he can believing it’s his wife’s wishes. Maybe mislead but it could be part of his healing process.
It's a good thing you're not on the jury.
@@lettiegrant9447 why? Because I don’t see the person that’s not on trial as a monster?
Something was going on between those two.... Its obvious imo
Step dad looks “blunted.” He is not showing much emotion at all, which is not unusual for people who have been through a hard time. His smiles to Carly are also muted. Everything is low energy, so he is not inconsistent in his behavior.
Let’s also remember this girl is above average intelligence.. she’s taking notes thru trial.. she knew exactly what she was doing and what she did!!
Yup!
@@michelebosserman2680 I just want know, I drink cokes all day. I know every can or bottle sizes, how long does a can of coke last? She. drank from that can for an hour, that was to keep us from noticing her starting to get anxious and unsure of her plan unfolding the way she thought it would. Well they gave her the freedom from her mother's clutches, nobody is gonna tell her what to do now, they are gonna show her in the harshest of ways. Life is a long time, especially when your not even twenty yet. She'll get her street creds now. Everybody at school talking about crazy Carly. That stepdad couldn't even look at her cause he sure getting ready to get PAID!
I see her taking notes during mental health testimony but not so much during other times.
Just watched day 2 again and after seeing the video how she looked for where her mom was, then went to get the gun hiding it behind her back, then shooting her mom and hides the gun from the camera behind her back as she comes back in the kitchen and calls her friend" Just her being totally aware of the camera like that proves she knew exactly what she was doing! I am glad that little monster is being tried as an adult! She is a cold blooded murderer! horrid!
She texted her dad first then her friend
Weird how she suddenly came clean about her command hallucinations and said she had them at the time of the murder even though she apparently dissociated and doesn't remember the crime....
Not even safe excuse grammar glasses not on
You can't go to school,or tell your children off without possibly getting shot.very scary country
@@Scott-up3bq I am very grateful to be living in New Zealand. I wouldn't live in the US for all the tea in China.
You know I hope psychiatrists realize that sometimes these teenagers can play them as well. That's pretty much why we have convicted killers and rapists back on the streets doing it again after psychiatrist evaluated them to be normal
So many uneducated posters who know nothing of bipolar disorder. Read a book
Well when you are a paid witness.. they don’t care!!
They do know if they’re good at their job, this psychiatrist definitely addressed that and gets it. It’s common when working in mental health to have to weed out the game players, but it can be really challenging.
Wonder how much he got paid to testify. The longer he is up there tick tick tick goes the clock and dollars add up.
@@5GreenAcres He’s interesting though, well to me he is because I love this field. I think too, he just wants to be very clear with his answers and explanations.
What kind of friend would willingly go to another friends house to look at a dead body. That friend should have called the police.
You check she's not lying first.
She absolutely should have at least immediately told a parent who could have called police.
@elaineagvent5513 she was probably scared that crazy ass was going to kill her .Come she just did her mom in .
jip, my thoughts also, almost like were discussing this beforehand
She did not expect Carly to have killed her mom. She did not believe there was a dead body until she saw it.
And how do you expect a teenager to deal with that situation? it’s a very rare teenager who is mentally prepared to deal with being alone with a person who has a gun and who just blew their own mother’s face away. She would’ve been in shock. She would’ve been terrified. She would’ve been confused. She would not have known what to do.
I love this judge. Very organized and knowledgeable! If only the attorneys were. I feel so sorry for the judge. He is ready to pound his head against the bench at the delays.
After seeing/hearing the video of Carly in the house with her mother, hearing the 3 shots that killed the mother, watching Carly walking around with something behind her back, and watching the dogs look uncomfortable, and hearing about her threats to school friends she wanted to kill her parents, her smoking marijuana and vaping, etc., I sure this spoiled teenager gets a very long sentence. I just don't see a strong case for mental illness or a recent change in medication being blamed for this.
@@sbaumgartner9848 Essa é a educação que a mãe deu para sua filha. Pais que não educam seus filhos, sofrem mais tarde. Ela é reflexo da educação que recebeu.
Yep - her actions caused her to disassociate, not disassociation causing her actions - imo...
@@verdeeflores If you watched the trial from day one? You would see that she was very educated and smarter than most kids her own age.
@@Mooshkie50able Sim. Mas, ser educado não quer dizer nada. Muitos psicopatas e sociopatas são extrememamente educados, carismáticos, falam baixo e são bons de papo; entretanto; mostram comportamentos incoerentes e bizarros. Não é possível que essa mãe não sabia do comportamento da filha. Essa mãe soltou demais. Essa filha não respeitava sua mãe. Por isso fez o que fez.
Igual aquele Wade Wilson. Um rapaz perdido, que não teve direcionamento correto da sua família adotiva.
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How did her mind go blank during the entire attack, and she doesn’t remember any of it? She only remembers just before and climbing out of a drainage ditch. BUT she told the cop yes she’s the one who did it and she didn’t mean to. AND she asked if her step-dad was okay. If she couldn’t remember and went blank, how would she know he was injured? Why would she say I didn’t mean to do it? She’s faking!!!
I see Carly taking notes on every psychiatric condition mentioned by the psychiatrist.
I would like to have heard something on her lack of remorse. Zero emotion, except when the police came to the house. She cried for the step father. No emotion with the murder video of her mom.
She learned what “auditory command hallucinations” are from this doctor. 🤨
She’s more intelligent than many.
Gut tells me she is highly manipulative and devoid of emotion.
@@barbaravaters4989 AMEN, but you didn't get it from me. No crying except that one time when she heard them play 911 when her stepdad called all upset. I haven't seen her show anything towards feeling sorry for her mom, not a minute is she caring about mom, the only one she is thinking is herself. I feel sorry for her because she doesn't know sorrows like being without your mama, its one thing when someone else takes her life but you took your mother and when you are laying in that strange cold place, you will suffer love. You need to be saying how sorry you are to GOD for taking his child, your mother his daughter. What is done can't be undone. I hope someone in her camp tells her to pray like a child prays to save their- selves while they sleep.
She keeps smiling. She thinks she is getting away with murder.
@@Suzie-he9ni Yes, let’s continue talking about puppy dogs and we can add rainbows to make it all seem perfectly fine to murder her mother. The fact the dad is on her side, is quite confusing. It’s one thing to forgive someone, but this is BEYOND uncomfortable!
@@holylandfan3275 Something is very fishy with the stepfather.
Same with Sydney Powells father. He was creepy.
@@BellaLeoLicorice I couldn’t agree more. He’s praising her more than his wife. I don’t want to falsely accuse, but it has to be one of the strangest testimony I’ve heard. Well, maybe the dad and grandmother of that girl name Sidney, but this one is even crazier, in my opinion.
Maybe he doesn’t want her to kill him after she gets out!
Omgosh, I think Carly and stepdad set this up , sorry not sorry 😮
It feels like there’s something off between the 2 of them. I can’t put my finger on it. Was he in a relationship with Carly? Did they want Ashley out of the way. It’s so weird.
Something about him gives me those same vibes but I just don't know....@@jessieroos128
No, you’re onto something. Something is not right. There is a large piece missing.
Yep...very wierd. His testimony is very strange. With state he was looking down whose time. Acting drugged to me. Smirking at Carly. Like love sick puppy. Did he want Carly to do it so convinced her? She wanted him to herself...why the camera in house? Wierdos.DEATH PENALTY
And the back door locked but step dad said she ran out the back. Who locked it? Funny how she could miss him and only a graze, why didn't she wait til he came in the door or house? He looked fake on the front porch. Something big is behind this missing. Dad knows at her age she wouldn't get much time. Something's wrong here imo
I think the State made their point with DR. He based all his findings on What Carly said, and she’s changed her story from before and after finding out she was being charged. She is COLD.
Who's DR? I didn't watch all of the state's case.
Doctor.
Yes, he seemed to base his diagnosis on her self reporting since she was 9 years old 🙄
@@jovicrazed sorry, the defense’s doctor.
The doctor was giving me headache. Blah, blah , blah. And then they said we the women talk too much.😂😂😂
@@victoriakennedy5683 Gotcha, thanks! Watching the state crossing him right now.
There it is. Step father said he has never seen Carly angry. Ashley told Dr that Carly was easily angered.
As a nurse i used to give my patients these meds. They keep you calm and i have never noticed side effects as described by this psych dr
Doesn’t mean it’s not possible. Must people tolerate all kinds of medications. yet some cannot go anywhere near them. A ‘calming’ medication given to my autistic grandson , has the total opposite effect. I, myself hallucinate and get very ill from taking codeine. To say that this couldn’t happen is very short sighted given that you are a nurse. Granted you may not have witnessed such things, doesn’t mean we are all the same though and react the same to different chemicals put into our bodies. If we all reacted the same way… ie be calmed or whatever, why does every dry come with adverse affects lists etc and things to watch out for. 🤷♀️
I had the same experience with this medication
The fact that she was on a taper down on one SSRI while simultaneously starting another SSRI is not the best practice and leads to a mucher high risk of serotonin syndrome. Also, I've personally been on both medications and Zoloft made me feel like a shell of myself and then Lexapro made me incredibly anxious and jumpy/fidgety
After watching the trial today and listening to stepdad, I wonder if he may have 2:08 put her up to it. "You're just a kid, they won't give you a long term" I'm just wondering 😮😢
Weird, i was thinking the same thing.
No she is just an evil selfish little teenager that didn’t like or want to have any rules ,,,, I hope she goes away for a long time
That stepfather is very creepy. He hid it pretty well yesterday but not so well today
Didn’t think he was at all creepy.
Couldn’t agree more. Aside from , I thought so yesterday too. Odd!
@@judybailey9031really? He is smiling at her and he’s so cringe.. they talk everyday and he is making light of the murder like she stole a pack of gum he barley makes eye contact his affect is off from what he is saying he shows zero emotion at picture of dead wife but smiles at the picture of Carley with the dog
I feel there's something off about him. The murder was only 6 months ago and maybe he hasn't been able to process everything properly. Hard to say, not being in his shoes, but his affect just doesn't seem quite right.
I get some odd feelings on this little girl. Yes, she's a minor and looks innocent. But, I can see she could be very manipulative. The smile that step dad gave her was odd, too.
o she know exactly what she did and she wanted to do that, lack of discipline, manipulative and spoiled Bratt.
Stepdad is trying to be supportive of the child who he helped raised and feels responsible for since her mother, his wife, is no longer around to support her and he knows that is what she would have done.
He is also in complete denial that the little girl he helps to raise his capable of such a horrific act, therefore, in his mind, it must have been a psychotic break.
It’s pretty normal for people to support family members who have killed a loved one. And if that’s hard for you to wrap your mind around, imagine how much harder it must be to wrap your mind around the idea that somebody you cared about killed somebody you loved, and trying to sort that out while you’re still grieving the loss of your partner.
@valerierodger I have my opinion and you have yours. Wrap your noodle around that.
I’m from the UK and can’t get over how much craziness you guys deal with in the US, my aunt lives and California and agrees with me when I say there’s something in the water over there
I'm surprised that the state wasn't objecting to this doctor's long-winded answers that stray well off the question asked.
I’m don’t think the state wants a conviction to be honest. They are trying it like they don’t really care. It is a poor job by the state.
I kept wondering if they were still in the room/ awake. I put in plenty of 'objection ! irrelevant's for them. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just wanted him to run his mouth off so they'd have plenty to pick apart.
The state knew that the more they let him talk they would have more to fire back and knock holes in everything he said and they did.👍
maybe because they know that they will get the answers they need whn they cross
Doc's question about her worrying about things the past 6 months was stupid. We all have worries about things over a 6 month period or more. Worry about stuff is a natural emotion of fear. Kids are so coddled these days. Life happens, get over it and adjust.
She has the posture of a sixty-eight-year-old legal secretary.
And her clothes 😂
That’s the entire point of the defence making her appear meek and unassuming to the jury.
@@maryjackson.214 oh, meekness, I understand that. Of course. Their strategy was to make her look like a sixty-eight-year-old legal secretary with poor posture? Don’t be silly.
I can understand not showing the juvenile witnesses, but why don't they let us HEAR them?
agree,,,maybe it varies state to state because we heard juveniles in a case on this station last week
@@inyourdreams3263 It would be nice to hear what they testified to if they are her peers/friends.
@@SISSYKAY agree....someplace last night i did see where they had the questions and answers going in closed caption, but was so hard to keep up with at times,,,
@@inyourdreams3263 Thanks. I'll try to find it.
"What i learned was that Carly suffers from normal teenage issues and decided she was going to murder her mother to avoid consequences of her actions" this is insane.
Did the dad have life insurance on the the mother? There’s something not right with him about all of this
You are totally right about him not being quite right. But hadn’t considered life insurance. That’d take it to a whole other level . 🤦🏼♀️
Yes , I'm thinking he had some kind of involvement!! Of course have her do it, she will get less time.if any .
Im late on watching this trial, but that hadn't crossed my mind yet.
I have tried my hardest to not know the verdict as I don't want to spoil it for myself. But something doesn't sit right with me about the stepdad and Carly. Its weird. Maybe he forgave her but still all the smiles and smirks are kind of inappropriate in this situation.
Is the video skipping for anyone else around the 2 1/2 hour mark?
Yes! It's driving me nuts!! Thought it was just me having an issue
Even if she is bipolar, that’s not an excuse for murder. I’m bipolar and have PTSD from severe abuse and I can’t imagine doing something like this. She knew exactly what she was doing and her home life was not horrible enough to drive her to murder. Hope she gets life.
I hope she gets the maximum sentence allowed. Sitting in court trying to look innocent 🙄 she knew what she was doing that day and she is trying to manipulate.
She asked after her stepfather during the arrest because she wanted to know whether she succeeded.
He was fkn that lil girl imo
Hmm something ain’t right about the relationship… did anyone do a serious mental health assessment on both of them? What was really happening in that house? She could have asked to know if he was dead OR if he was alive bc it was a plot??
Idk something is just so off about him and her
I like this judge.
Judge asks for other witnesses, defense says they have none, carly looks at female attny says "not me?" And she looked at her like child please, and mouthed no. PUT HER ON THE STAND.
So the step dad who is testifying for her, giving her smiles and weird lovingly looks, saying she was being her pleasant self etc, he is a physical therapist? So he knows the body well And he got shot in the best possible through and through spot? A spot where he could have shot himself? He then tells the police she is wearing a grey shirt and not a blue one? How certain are we that this man-who apparently shows more love and affection for Carly who shot him than he does for his murdered wife- isnt a major part of this???
Didn't anyone in his family tell him how flat out weird it is that he is testifying this stuff? Didn't anyone warn him that it will make him look guilty.
@@BrandySunnenberg It just occured to me that it wouldn‘t make any sense for Carly to call her friend over after she killed her mother, but she told the friend she was about to kill the stepfather when he came home - doesn‘t make any sense either, unless Carly and her stepdad planed the whole thing, and the friend was called so they can testify that Carly was going to kill the stepdad - otherwise he would be a suspect, too.
@@НастяСорокина-п3з yes! That is what makes sense.
My nephew's half sister actually shot her own father in the face and killed him a few years ago. She turned 18 and got out of jail last year. No one knows why she really did it because there was no physical, sexual or mental abuse from her dad in any way. Most people think maybe her mom put her up to it. That's part of why I think this guy might have put her up to it.
For the stepdad being nice talking to her for a couple of years his being with her mom I think they both know what they did let's see how far this will go
Very fishy ... if he grabbed the gun and shot himself because she chickened out of that part of the plan it would explain her crazy screaming and running away and why she questioned how he was.
@@BellaLeoLicoriceexactly . I do believe though that he came in between Carly and her mum , probably interested in Carly but had to marry mum to look feasible . Her behaviours are like someone whose been brainwashed and groomed. It’s easy to go down this track I know… because we cannot fathom these actions of a fourteen year old girl who before him , had a very loving relationship. The sad fact is , this 💩is more common than we know . So not hard to come to these kind of conclusions. The fact that he is seriously creepy and way to ‘into’ Carly is vomit inducing. 🤮🤮🤮
I can't imagine husband being so calm and smiling while looking at pictures of his wife. Even smiling at Carly. Sorry but that is not normal!
Her stepfather is creepy the way that he smiles at her it's only been 6 months since this has and he is so forgiving something isn't right why all the cameras and why all of the guns left out if they knew that she suffered from depression what about a life insurance policy and how much just don't add up if he is involved they both need to be locked up for good
Its obvious he was fkn that lil girl imo 😏
The defense is trying to pull a fast one with their psychiatric expert. Here’s why:
1. Saying he wont offer his opinion or draw conclusions because that’s “not his role”might just be the stupidest thing I’ve heard from an expert witness on the stand. Using his expertise to form opinions and make findings is literally the exact job of an expert witness. Even if one can’t determine something, that’s a conclusion! It’s not a juries’ job to form those conclusions because they aren’t experts. The juries’ job is to consider all evidence and testimony and weight it out in terms of the charges.
2. Defense was admonished by the judge for not producing a psychiatric expert within a reasonable period of time. Essentially, they could not find an expert to say that Carly was NGRI.
3. The best the defense could do was find this guy who is feigning reverence for the role of the jury to cover the fact that he CANNOT and WILL NOT say on the stand, that Carly is NGRI.
4. He did a four hour interview and reviewed some records, this is subpar at best. We have many well designed and standardized tools to assess whether someone is faking, diminishing, being defensive, even lying to themselves about mental health symptoms! He didn’t use a single one?
5. People who have auditory hallucinations, tend not to describe them as “voice in my head” but describe actual auditory hallucinations or as delusions where they believe the government, witches, aliens, etc are inserting or controlling thoughts. An internal dialogue in someone’s head is simply that. It’s common for people with depression or anxiety to experience their internal dialogue as very intrusive, but it’s not a hallucination.
6. He’s throwing out tons of random information that has no bearing on anything and only serves to confuse the jury. I just about lost it when he started going on about fugue states.
7. Even if we all agree Carly has all these diagnoses and is psychotic, unless this was completely controlling her at the time of the murder, then she’s not NGRI. It’s beyond telling that he won’t attest to this on the stand.
PS - people get diagnosed with personality disorders all the time.
Why isn't anyone looking into her and the stepfather I think he molested her and being bipolar maybe she fell in love with him wanted her mom out of the way the only one she was worried about was him and they were showing lots of love at court when he was talking about them
👏🏽 EXACTLY WHAT I'M THINKING MORE AND MORE
Yes exactly!!!!! The way they smile at each other is creepy. Something is definitely going on there. I wonder if the state will question that?
text......Are you coming home soon, honey? Was that her trying to be her mother OR was that her asking him directly from her?
Ok, let me get this straight...If Carly's parents knew she had a mental disorder WHY would they have a pew pew where she could get to it? Shouldn't the step father be indicted for this un alive of the mother too? After all, we have two parents that are sitting in prison for the same thing.
100%!
What on earth is a pew pew?
😂@@Jo.lawler
The case is not over yet. His turn is coming
@@lettiegrant9447 Should have been indicted by now. He testified and helped the defense with the "mental health" crap.
If you have all of these symptoms of manic depression or manic bipolar , these symptoms don’t develop overnight , if she had had testing before for her behaviour , others would pick up on this .
Putting the video camera in the fridge , I’m thinking her mind was working well then to call a friend to come over to see her mom , would that be bragging that she did it?
Getting into drugs changing her hole demeanour to show her friends how cool she was.
I’m really trying to not sound cruel but I still believe this girl planned this,
Neither of her attorneys seem to be fond of her. Nor does she seem surprised they're not! 😮there is a huge back story to this we know nothing about. Seems like she has been treated as an adult fot quite some time even though she is a minor.
Her smug attitude while the Psychiatrist talks, she obviously believes this will result in her getting off scott free.
Hopefully with he's long winded thoughts will be great for a rebuttal expert to have a hay day with that maybe why they didn't object hopefully
All three look like they are about to cry when the prosecution is questioning the witness they paid good money for.
@@PacificTrigger no, the plea offer was 40 years
she knew exactly what she was doing and played this guy100% because she knew what her dad was diagnose with and use that for herself! This girl needs to go to jail, danger to society.
If I was still a drinker, I almost wanted to take a shot every time he said "Carly told me". I think I would have been on the floor passed out by time he was one hour into his testimony.
Judge Dewey looking mighty irritated 😂
He's irritated because he clearly was struggling afterwards with he's ruling to let the doctor have full reign knowing but was unlawful
@@carolinagirl740Right, but he did it. Judge Seemed to favor the defendant.
He’s great isn’t he!😀 He always looks to be permanently pissed off 😂
Did anyone look into the step dad getting her to do this? It wouldn’t be the first time. His wound wasn’t life threatening
I bet the reason she asked the officer if her step dad was ok was because she was hoping she killed him too.
I think it's because they have been having a sexual relationship and she chickened out of shooting him as per their plan. He grabbed the gun, shot himself, she screamed and ran off and was petrified he had hurt himself too much.
I think she had to know so that she could figure out how to spin things since there would be a survivor and witness. No need to ask about mom cause she already knew mom was gone.
She was so smart she would known right from wrong . Can’t wait till the state cross
She needs to go jail for the rest of her life. Psychopath imo
i think if they are locking her in a cell for the rest of her life maybe the death penalty is a better answer 50 or 60 years in a cell
This judge is excellent. He doesn't take any crap and be is wise enough to know how much slack to give to avoid the case being overturned on appeal. I like him.
Well i wonder she went straight to the unsecured gun should stepdad be charged too the only difference between this and a school shooting is they were not at school . Isnt that the point the courts are trying to make now.
It's my understanding that the gun belonged to her mother, and her mother kept it under her side of the bed normally.
I thought this at first to but I do believe the gun belonged to her mother.
No one just "randomly" shoots their parent. Something is off. There 100% has to be a motive. We don't know what happened in that house. Why were there cameras in the home? Were there other cameras? Something doesn't make sense.
I thought it was because the wife was afraid of her ex. She put them up according to him.
Why is the defense attorney prosecuting the officer like he's the one murdered this girls Mother? I'm so confused.
I laughed as the "expert" came out with every useful diagnosis in the book. (DSM - 5) Was he implying she had DID as well? They've probably got Letecia Hardin (Stauch}'s favourite expert, Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis lining up to shore up that diagnosis.
It is laughable that defence counsel can buy experts like this to tell them what they want to hear. Thank goodness the prosecutor set a few things straight. Dr expert will hopefully be questioning his own ideas about dissociative memory loss now.
The other truly hilarious part was when the expert said with a perfectly straight face that she was experiencing command hallucinations at the time of the crime. She had denied it to him as he carefully explained exactly what they were and then went back to jail and finally fessed up.
I'd like to know how this kid got her nipple pierced. I thought she'd need a parent's permission and supervision for that. How did she pay for the marijuana? She seems awfully fond of her stepdad, just saying.
If there is insurance money and if she is found guilty I wonder how friendly she will be with her stepdad because she won't get a penny of the insurance money
I think you’ve answered your own questions . Very odd . So much more going in here as I’ve said from beginning. ✌🏼
Was there insurance money? How much?!
I agree. Somethings very odd here between the two.
If you have all of these symptoms of manic depression or manic bipolar , these symptoms don’t develop overnight , if she had had testing before for her behaviour , others would pick up on this .
Putting the video camera in the fridge , I’m thinking her mind was working well then to call a friend to come over to see her mom , would that be bragging that she did it?
Getting into drugs changing her hole demeanour to show her friends how cool she was.
Rewarch crew!! I am eye rolling through the defense doctor, whom is reaching out of the solar system to diagnose but not diagnose Carly with PTSD, BiPolar 2, blah blah blah. BiPolar people are impulsive, not patient and calculating.
@@legendarymayormarylikestur8874 Sounds like a normal hormonal teenager. 😂
Aggree
The defense attorney was trying to throw out every single mental issue title under the sun just to see if the jury would just pick one out of the hat and go with the flow.
These doctors that are hired to evaluate murderers and Claim after four hours of spending with them in jail that they are innocent because they can’t remember doing it should lose their license. They are money grabbers.
When you break up the core family, kids act out in different ways, some go this route, and stepdad seems shady to me. Just a bizarre girl.
Oh. As for the defense saying she didnt know right from wrong. I am sure she did. At least reasonably sure. She chose wrong for a reason folks. What was it?
Relationship with stepfather...
She absolutely knew and knows right and wrong as much as a 14 15 year old can and that includes murdering your parents or anyone is wrong
She knew EXACTLY what she was doing, and she was super calm which is super alarming!!! She planned this... its so obvious!! Her defense team is useless to be honest.... there's no point in their cross examination. Pointless really. And I feel weird vibes between her and the stepdad.... something is just not right... more concerned about him.
Defense is a mess! Also every time little monster starts doing that thing with her neck, I expect an alien to burst out of her body 😮
lol 😂
John carpenters The Thing 😂
I swear i don't think i've ever seen a competent judge so frustrated at incompetent atty's who are supposed to be organized for a murder trial 🫣
Hey Atty's! Judge Dewey K. Arthur runs a very efficient courtroom, so how about you all come to court very well prepared or even overly prepared !
Judge Borowski is another one … superior!
I believe her father planted that mess in her head. I don’t know why the courts allow unsupervised visitation with mentally ill drug users or questionable non-custodial parents. I am speaking from experience. I had a judge who didn’t think the father was capable of taking care of the child or providing him with the mental stability he needed. He also indicated the absolute hatred this cheating, no bill paying individual had for the mother. He wouldn’t give him custody or allow joint custody, but mandated that this narcissistic individual have regular unsupervised visitation. The father also was mandated to meet the mother in a public location to exchange the child. A child is the best gift you can give to a narcissistic, manipulative psychopath. He will definitely use this child against you
This judge being obviously fed up with the disorganization of the defense is the funniest thing to me. He’s so sick of them 💀💀💀💀💀
Bottom line it was not OK for what she did. So many of us want parents like that, who treat us good and not like crap! She was lucky! It's like *Sydney* Or *Ambuser Turd*
No! She was wrong. Carly Looked in her room saw her mother looking around turned around and walked back to the other side of the house and got the pistol Came back and did what she did It's Terribly sad what she did!! 😔🙏🏼
This smart young girl is calculated and cunning in her planning to kill mom and attempt to kill step dad. She even wanted to share her killing with her friends!!!
Carly’s dad creeps me out. That love sick smile while he looks at a picture of his dead wife and the spoiled teen that took her life. She told her friend that “ I just put 3 in my mom, and I have three for my stepdad when he gets home”. She knew what she was doing 100% of the time. I hope she stays in Prison for the rest of her life. RIP Ashley 😢💔🙏
Step dad and daughter both seem to be trying to refrain from smiling at each other . Step dad could be the master mind letting baby take the fall.
They probably was fkn imo
I think they wanted the mother out of the picture cuz something is going on there
Why is the defense attorney spending so much time on the body cam being turned off? Surely with all those other officers around there is another body cam he can watch to see what was said.
This happened 15 miles from me and I didn't even hear about it!
As a doctor who knows about research, I think that the person testifying about the state of mind of the defendant (the Psychiatrist) is not a credible witness. There is no literature that will neither suggest nor back the notion that a person that hides presumptive bad actions does not know the difference between right or wrong. What he says is ridiculous! Fortunately for the criminal prosecution, we have the conceptual and empirical frameworks of Consciousness' of Guilt. "As an axe leaves its mark in the speechless tree, so an evil deed leaves its mark in the evil doer's consciousness" (Wigmore, 1923 cited in Hutchins & Slesinger, 1929).
Clearly this is a spoiled child.. got EVERYTHING she wanted and more than she needed to include 2 loving parents.. she wanted attention from her friends which is why she called them to view her dead mums body.. I hope the jury gets it right and she’s locked up for VERY long time.
I was sexually, emotionally and physically abused by my stepfather. I never killed him or my mother!! Is this what we have become.. you kill a loving mother because she takes ur phone away?!?! Disgusting!!
Somebody needs to tell the doctor that testified today that starting, virtually, every response with "so" is annoying and makes him appear undereducated. "So" stop it!
@@babyk6374 Yes!! Yes.
"So" gas creeped into our lexicon these past few years and it's annoying.
So what!!!
Jk 😂
@@minimalist2036Funny and very appropo!
It's a murder trial not a language or speech trial.
I dont know... The stepdad is throwing off strange vibes to men
Totally …. But dare to state that in some of the chat and you’ll get put in your place. I go by gut instincts and at the moment let’s just say, my gut is screaming to me that things are not as they appear. Besides what took place that is.
Whoever that chose that outfit for Carly has never been around 15 yr olds.
Step dad is not to be trusted. That poor girl did what she was asked to do. Did step dad set this all up? I think so
he didnt shed 1 tear today for his wife,,,if that was my spouse i would be a wreck,,something is way off
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I think "forbidden secrets" are between them
What is she smiling for?
She’s pleased. Speaks volumes.
In her mind she's so sure she's going to be set free. She's not worried a bit.
she gets what she wanted, attention and because she knows she played that Dr and her attorneys!!
I don't know much , but i think stepdaddy groomed carly , told her she a juvenile and won't go to jail if she kills her mother , then they can be toghter , i have a feeling this is long from over
Who is she turning to talk to? Should not be allowed.
Her grandparents
@@vickir4526 why ones? Maternal?
It’s crazy they allow the grandparents to talk to her
@@vickir4526 Are they the parents of the woman she murdered or her stepfather's parents???
She doesn't have anyone e!se.
bruh - the spin on medication theory is crazy, its clear to anybody that has senses in them that this girl is sociopathic if not psychopathic. period. the defense lawyer really wanna make that bucks huh -_-
I'm trying to figure out if they are trying to blame the medicine for her actions or if they're trying to blame the bulimia for her puking it all out of her system and not having any medication in her to manage her symptoms. Which is it???
@@thebewitchinghour831 whichever that they can falsely use to get her free, but i m so very glad she was given guilty verdict
I'm wondering if this stepfather has anything going on with this young girl, it wouldn't be the first, and it wont be the first time, and it wont be the last. Time will tell and it won't be the least. Has anyone else had this run through their mind, and just won't say it out loud as I have done. She got her mother spot on, but him he is not hurt and is in court making nice with the person who took his wife from him😮 he hasn't a thing about his wife yet.. not has he said a negative thing about his smilingly stepdaughter yet. Maybe it's because she didn't do much injury to him as they planned , only time will tell😊😊. I'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking, but not saying😢😢
Yes I feel the same. I think the stepfather and Carly are in love and possibly planned this. The way they smile at each other is very strange
Alot of people are saying it. It definitely hasn't gone unnoticed. They may not have anything on him and they're waiting for her to roll over on him after some time in prison. I have a feeling this story is definitely not over.
The defense cross examination on the defense’s psychiatrist was brutal to watch…. So poorly prepared
Is it just me or does the video start messing up when the cop who picked her up is on the stand?
The psych Doc is a nut.
I think he has or needs to dip into the medicine cupboard.
He's a rich nut. Probably made 100k from this case.
When are they going to go into her toxicology report? Where did she get the pot? Is it possible that it was laced with something?
I thought the same
Look up cannabis induced psychosis
She knew as soon as she walked in the door and looked directly into the camera! Like "y'all watchin right?" Horrendous!!!
She hated her biological dad so much and feared him so much that she didn't kill him in self defense, she killed her mother, who got her away from him and away from the situation.
So weird how so many defendants sit there and write a bunch of stuff as if they actually have that much to write down.
The defense attorney does not know the difference between when and whenever. I can't believe this person is educated.
I just posted a similar comment on yesterday's video on this trial. This is common in the American south and it drives me nuts. They have very different meanings. So many of them say whenever when the proper word, given the context, is when. A lot of Floridians, and those from the Carolinas, etc., do this as well. It's a southern thing. The cops testiying yesterday did it throughout their testimony. Today, I'm annoyed by the way this defense attorney pronounces "Carly" but it's not wrong, of course, it's just her accent.
That’s a southern thing. The police officers were saying it too.
@@thecozybungalow Are you replying to me? That's what I just said.
I absolutely hate that misuse of whenever! It’s so annoying.
@@river8760 That and "I want to say" drive me nuts. Oh, and saying someone did something "on accident" (BY ACCIDENT/ ON PURPOSE FFS!)
What’s with his smirk
Who did the judge threaten to put in jail please?
How she can be found not guilty after the video is beyond me😮😮
I used to litigate criminal defense cases. I have empathy for the defense team, because we do what we do because we have a passion for law. We either fight tooth and nail for their innocence, or if the circumstances doesn't allow that, we fight for a proportional sentence for the offense. This defense team seems without fight in some ways. That's why I have empathy, because it is clear their hands were pretty much tied from the get go with the information presented. It would seem they had a job to defend a girl that voices a defense poorly thought through, who, herself, is not adamant that her defense version + takes center stage. What a crappy set of facts to defend.
That step dads def not right... and i think the mum found out for sure.
Is anyone else seeing every chance she can get she turns to look at older gentleman of jury and the talk back and forth especially when her attorney’s approach the bench
The jury won’t be on camera, it’s her grandparents
I have watched a ton of cases n this is the first time I seen that the judge has everyone sit when the jury enters n leaves the room
Will someone please tell me that the Jury is not directly beside her to the right. The older gentleman has talked to her through out this whole trial. Especially every time her attorneys approach the bench
@@poptimesprouse it’s her grandparents