🔵Long hive is filling up fast!
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2021
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I didnt thing they would organize themselves that efficiently , Good video, I like seeing things like this
Well it could be a bit of luck but I put 2 solid frames of nectar/honey right of the nest at the start of the blackberry flow and thankfully she didn't cross it and lay into the honey frames. Took a little bit more effort but I think it was worth it. Kind of like doing single brood chambers vs just letting them stay in a double configuration. Both work but I feel like the extra work of reducing them to a single pays off not only in honey but in management efficiency.
The thing about a true top bar is you give them a bar and...wham it's drone comb.
I have two and it's not my thing.
Ian has this down to where he's minimized work for maximum honey. Top bar is a hobby thing. Fun but not practical on a big scale.
They do most of the time, but sometimes they need encouragement. I cut up plastic excluders to fit and limit the queens movement. If she looks like shes getting the brood nest full, pull a couple capped brood frames and swap them to the other side of the excluder for drawn comb. Boom! She has 15k empty cells, and it helps to get the bees to move over as they will stay with that brood. Horizontal hives don't lend themselves to any kind of commercial scale, or efficiency, but for the backyarder, the ergonomics and ease of manipulation is unmatched. Big fan of both of you, Ian and Kamon!
That long hive is such a nice build! You don't see that quality craftsmanship too often.
Woa the nectar shake was insane
Why is it when Laurel giggles, I giggle?
And your comment made her giggle!
Thanks for your effort. You can put grease on the legs of the hive to prevent the rise of ants
Thanks K&L, the horizontal looks great! You act like you’re feeling bad or guilty about the KY mite treatment and you SHOULD NOT! It was just a little fun and humor and everything that you do don’t have to be by the book! I bet more folks enjoyed it than didn’t! Looking forward for the next video.
Thanks Kamon!! The stings you go through to produce these videos for everyone! 😉
thank you for this video! i was praying someone had a horizontal hive to show, as i think they would save my back,, i am not able to do any heavy lifting any more,,, thank you for the tips
My neighbor told me they have had awesome results with horizontal hives:) I think that’s the style I’ll go with. Also being a disabled veteran this will help with some movement restrictions I have:)
I started with long hives because of physical condition but found limited information on them. Most beekeepers in area did not want to help so I am glad to see someone in the bee world giving new information
My Horizontal is building out faster than my 8 frames, was just telling Greg Burns that. That hive looks solid.
@ObamfSPIKE They're looking good. One of my resource hives side has a mated Queen now and she's laying it up, so 2 more to go and everything is Queen Rite and looking good. How many hives do you have now?
@ObamfSPIKE nice. .
Same here. They really seem to take to that arrangement.
Enjoyed the video. I'm rob Pollock's dad. You make a great mentor.
I built a horizontal hive last winter and I put a package of bees in it (with no drawn frames to start with) only about 6 weeks ago. Already the queen is laying in 8-9 frames and they have 6-7 frames of honey stored away. I'm using a queen excluder between the brood area and the honey area and it hasn't slowed them down one bit!
Does the royal septum move constantly? Thanks.
How did you place a queen excluder. I haven't figured how yet. I made one attempt and they filled it with honey!
@@roycarroll1856 -- I made one. I took a plastic excluder and attached it to a top bar. It has to fit tightly at the sides and the bottom.
@@roycarroll1856 -- I had to cut it to fit.
Currently building a long lang hive. Appreciate your videos since this will be my first horizontal. All the best.
Great video. Just getting started with a horizontal lang. due to limited mobility. You answered a lot of questions about management.
Thanks for the update on the long hive. This is my first year with two of them. So far they are doing well.
Yay!!
My name is Ron I really enjoy your videos I’m a retired fruit and produce farmer. I’m getting into beekeeping. Back in the eighty’s pollinators were few and far in between so I rented 20 bee hives the money i spent was well worth the investment thank you again for your help I’m building horizontal hives !!!
Just add cinnamon to the list of experiments, lol. That horizontal hive is banging! Very nice frames.
Thankfully my bees are doing good
Looks like he has added a board on the nearside to mount a frame hanger.
I feel that the horizontal hive is best for the low-volume "Hobbyist" beekeeper. It's a great way to go!
Yeah Kamon, I agree with you that long hives are good for people on wheel chair, people with bad back, for those who can only have one hive in their backyard and for those who have very short nectar flow.
When the bees fill up all the limited frames then the only choice the queen will have is to swarm.
That why I want one. I have problems with my feet & balance. I just know this would be so much easier for me n my sister.
Try a layens hive next and you can put the same amount of bees and comb on a third less amount of frames.
Buddy of mine down the road has a few. I think the bees would do well in them if he would treat for mites. Maybe he is having better luck this year
Good video,as always.
You don't remember your mama telling you be careful son where you put your fingers they may get snapped off.
Tremendously enjoy your channel!!
Thanks for saying so! I am fixing to release an update on that hive and it is packing away the honey
Wow! That's what I see in the top bars, they explode.
Thanks for this! I use horizontal hives and find it challenging to find good content.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for commenting!
I would luv get one of these!!
I'm going build a horizontal longstroth hive & the regular horizontal hive. Glad to see how well the horizontal langstroth is working.
That is a nice big hive
we have the legs in small bowls with a little oil in the legs, that keeps the ants at bay for the most part
Hi Kamon, I have a Horizontal Langstroth Hive, using Jumbo Deep Frames. Works a treat. 👍
Think outside the Box...
Mine was made from an Ex Log Storage Box, has a Built in Queen Excluder 2/3rds away from Brood Area. Can get brood free Honey 🍯 /or do a Split.... All involving no lifting heavy Brood or Super Boxes ... 👍
It also has thick double walls stuffed with 5" of Sheep's Wool, for Winter (lots of Sheep here in Scotland ! 😆 Notice your Top Covers hang over your Frames when stored up end (!) 🙄 That would drive me crazy....
Go for really thick walls, gives you a Built in Frame Holder, Top Inner Cover Rest etc, off and away from the Frames you want to lift uninterrupted. And a deep Sloping lid, gives better weather protection, inner thermal space / + extra equipment to stash, have at Hand. (Roof doesn't have to be boxed in like yours, if you use Deep Inner Boards / Mesh, over the Frames. Win, Win, Hive inspections etc. ✓
(Mine uses Garden Wind Break Mesh over all the Frames, and Timber Boards with Cabinet Handles on top of them. Some have 4" Plexi Glass Ports cut into them, great to see the Lassies (Girls) at work when Boards are in situ or not. You can lift a Board, take a peek, without even Smoke or a Suit (!!!) No bees buzzing me, but I can look down and view them. 👀
Even cut a top off a Soda Bottle, to make a Cone for the Bees to come up under / direct into the Top Feeder. That way, they didn't get mashed on removing / filling it (!) And if I do remove the Feeder, I can add the Soda Bottle Top, Screw it back on.... No Bees can get out of the 3/4" hole cut in that Mesh for direct Bee access into the Feeder and no stings on me or my thumb... Ouch their (!)
Sometimes I just pop the lid up, on hinges, (with an anti tip chain anchoring Roof) to just Smell that gorgeous Hive Aroma.... 🤗
It also has a mesh floor, an old Kitchen Tea Tray as a Varroa Mite Board, in an under cupboard, that holds, my Smoker, Hive Tool, Pollen Patties, and, Paper/Card, BBQ lighter etc etc... You never know when it is going to Rain here, so all stuff is good to grab, or stuff back in quickly.
We don't live off Whisky and Honey, for nothing ! Can get cold and wet here quickly. 😏
Happy Beekeeping for 2021.
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I'm near Chattanooga, and have had considerable problem with ants, including needle ants, sugar ants, another species I don't know and both red and black wood ants. I tried multiple recommended solutions, including several pounds of fresh cinnamon from SamsClub -- NONE of the ants hesitated to crawl across piles of cinnamon.
What is working, is metal tubular legs on my hive stand, which I keep coated with old bearing grease. Oh, I and have to keep the grass trimmed. But I'm going to put my new hive stand on landscape cloth, and cover it with wood chips, so there will be no grass stalks for the ants to climb.
Super !
Nice work Kamon 💯
*Interesting video Thx4Sharing Kamon* 👍🇺🇸
Looks like you need to add a box🤔😄👍
lol!
I think a box is possible. The hive would look a bit like an offset smoker. Just make it compatible with 8 frame Langstroth hives.
Kamon, in late Feb, my grandson and I built a Layens system hive from 1/2" ply and fiberglass insulation, bottom, top and all four sides in hopes of capturing a swarm or two to fill up the box of 24 frames. I'm going to gather my bait boxes today as they are empty and no need to remain out for hornets to take over. Not a good year for feral swarms this year.
I have found that if I get stung I want to make sure I scape the stinger off with my knife blade or something quickly and just put water on it and if its not to deep it goes away quickly. Enjoy your videos always.
Note: If he places each leg into a metal dog bowl and fills the dog bowls with mineral oil or cooking oil and water (never motor oil) it will solve the ant problem. The water in the bowl fills most of the bowl. The oil creates a slick layer on top of the oil. Fill the bowl about 1/2 full. The dog bowl "moats" solved my ant problem.
I wonder if just plain water would work? The bees would have a water supply also. That's if they wouldn't drown themselves.
@@jamesbarron1202 Yes to an extent. The mineral oil makes it slick and helps keep mosquitoes from the water.
Thank you for showing video! Good job Ramon! What state are you living? Very green all round nice! I have same hive just 21 frame. I remember my grandfather having many hives in Ukraine. But frame is different sizes like long like same dips. It’s 50 years ago from now. Happy a New season! Thank for much Stay more healthy! I’m from Northwest America !
There rocking ✅😁👌🏴☠️🏴☠️
i have a trick for you .
find yourself 4 coffee cans the old metal ones put one under each leg fill with oil and install a cone on the legs above the can so water cant collect in them . the ants wont cross the oil to climb up the legs of the hive ant problem solved.
Your comment on beekeepers in a wheelchair was interesting - I have never seen a video on handicap beekeepers... that might be a good video program!
Brother, to keep the ants out use some round pipe for the legs of the hive and put PVC cups upside down filled with grease. I have a video showing this my friend. I'm not good at making videos but it will show you what I did and it really works GREAT. :)
i think ill progress to a long lang in our urban backyard, and keep traditional langstroth down at the other apiary, yours are looking great
I understand if you already have the equipment but layens does better over winter because they don't really break cluster.
Beutiful information sir 🙏
I love my long hive
Is that lid insulated looks pretty thick...nice hive...good video
IF YOU APPLY SOME TANGLEFOOT TO THE LEGS YOU WON'T HAVE ANY ANTS, DONE THAT FOR YEARS.
I should try that this year!
Hey Kamon how's it going glad you and Mrs Laura are fine how's the bee's that had I believe 7 or 8 oxalic treatment going and did they survive the winter thanks Kamon for showing the experiment yard and try a mega hive and see if it's worth doing
Hey Jason that 8 OA treated hive has 100lbs of honey on it if that tell you anything. Took 8 OA shots followed up with Apivar to get the mites down. 2 queens changes and nearly a years recovery but they made it. Best to keep the mites low lol
@@kamonreynolds that's great glad to hear that
I am not a bee keeper nor do I plan to be , however I’m thinking this style of hive would be good for established bee keepers not so great for bee keepers just starting out because the number of bees the keeper will have when they just start will not fill that hive .
Thank you for taking the time to share with us us all here on You Tube your bee keeping experiments .
Not sure the practice with this style but in my layens I have a solid board which I slide as I need more frames. I can add a second to the other end if I want to position the winter frames more to the middle of the hive for more air insulation.
@@kade426 Thank you for the explanation.
My experience last year with my LLH: queen likes to venture out every so often. I found two frames on separate occasions ⅔ of the way through the honey section. Each frame had about 5 sq in of brood on it. I moved the frames next to the brood section. I've changed my thoughts about the honey section being placed away from the entrance for protection from robbing to the brood section being placed near the entrance because there it's easier for them to control temperature and moisture levels nearer the entrance.
Edit: I currently have 2 LLHs. One of them has swarmed itself queen less. Gave it a frame of eggs/larvae. Will have to see how this one does. Swarm season has been horrendous this year in Central New York.
Its been bad in the UK too.
I have been dealing with swarms this week. I had to have hernia surgery so I had to let the bees do there own thing. Now I am paying for it.
I have to get in them but going to rain again tomorrow. Looks good in there in your neck of the world..
Sorry to hear Jeff. Make sure you take care of yourself!
If you have your entrance on the end the Queen will tend to stay up that end. You can run a nuc at the other end if you get swarm cells.
Glad to see that the bee stings hurt you as much as it does us backyard bee keepers.. lol
If you don't like the honey above the broodnest you can open it up with a fork so they could transfer it overnight to the back. I'm working with german Kuntzsch hoch frames which are something like 9inch wide/13inch high layens frames and I do this every spring to concentrate brood/food in separate frames.
Great hive
We started using cinnamon on our inner covers and it’s working really well against the ants
The horizontal box seems to be more insulated then the standard box. We live in the high desert of central Oregon. It can get down to -30 and i was interested in information of using this box in my area.
spray some white vinegar and salt water on those hive covers to keep the ants off. also put it on the legs of the hive. Someone told me last year that a good use for old motor oil is to bush it on the legs of the beehive and it will keep all insects at bay.
Make a poultice of plantain and stick on bee sting.
Interesting video. I might have to try a horizontal hive.
Hope you share a vid
Your bees are so well behaved. When I apply smoke to mine, they just keep doing what they were doing...which is mostly getting in my way.
They have minds of their own lol
Wooly Dragon.... Try using a Water Spray Bottle (one with a pump lever to mist) is easy. Add Water, a couple of drops of Spearmint Essential Oil. # B
ees don't like Spearmint much (!) It masks the Phremones, Sting / Anger traits.... Works way better than Smoke.... Some days I feel more Kippered than the bees, I smell like I've been in a Smoke Shack ! 😆
# Peppermint doesn't work !
See a UK Beekeeper called Phil Chandler (uses Top Bar Hives)... He always Mists his Bees. ✓
Your long hive it going gangbusters. I do not recall if you loaded it with frames of drawn comb but that would make all the difference in the world. I haven't met a hive type that I dislike and I try to use them all. Your point about good and bad points for all of them is 100% true...they all have advantages and disadvantages. Anyone that tells you a certain hive type is doomed to fail has no idea what they are talking about. It is all about the bees and not the box.
Hey Robert. I did load it with 100 drawn comb and it does make a big difference!
@@kamonreynolds Oh yeah...wax is gold!
All you have to do is add a door to the bottom opposite side of the entrances. Cut out that piece on your next one and hinge it so you can drop it down and add trays and inspect for swarm cells.
As for the ants, I found if I sprinkle diatomaceous earth around and under my hive it keeps the ants away. You can buy it at your yard and garden stores.
Mr. Kamon, place a sardine can under the hive stand legs and pour in a little motor oil and you'll never ever have those ants in your hive again!!
Great video. Can you put queen excluders in horizontal hives?
NICE!
Very cool hive. Did you ever get time to Finnish the other long hive you filmed? Thanks 👍
I built a horizonal hive quite similar to yours. However, I made two (5-inch) mail-slot type entrances even with the bottom board. In doing so, the bees later propolised one of the entrances shut. With such a long hive I'm wondering why the bees did this?
5:23 Special moment!!! I know exactly how you feel =P
As long as I can hear your wife with a lil giggle ill keep coming back. Thanks for your videos and your help Kamon and Laurel. 7 year keeper from NC.
Have you used a Layens long box vs a Langstroth long box? Would be an interesting experiment. Layens frames naturally seal at the top between frames, so it elliminates those top covers use use on this box
I haven't used a Layens. I am sure they work but there are many advantages to keeping frames in the langstroth category. Ease of Extraction for one.
Out of curiosity, can you use an old fridge to store the reclaimed come frames to preserve and prohibit bug intrusion during storage?
Best to have an old Freezer. Freeze and defrost as you need them. Also freezing gets rid of any Varroa Mite or Wax Moth larva. 👍
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We are presented with a hive with 30 frames in which the bees step on all 30. Have you strengthened this hive during the development with frames or the population from another hive or the method of the two queens? Very nice video, thank you.
No this queen built this up by herself no help needed. Interesting, enough the hive superseded her in the summer. The daughter is doing magnificent though!
👍 moment of silence for your poor thumb! 😂 👍
Slice of union remedy's stings
Curious on how to pull honey when we cant isolate a super using a fume board etc since its horizontal. Will you just bang the bees down and brush the rest off old school?
Thanks for this video. Can you explain again about how you keep the queen limited to fewer frames? Are you saying the frame of honey was enough of a suggestion that she stayed to the left? Maybe you explained in another video and I missed it. I really appreciate your videos, thanks again.
Yes I placed all the good brood frames with the queen to that far wall and then 2 nearly solid frame of nectar/honey. Queens don't like to cross them but sometime they do. Worked this time.
It's called a Honey Bridge on Vertical Boxes...
Guess it needs to be called a "Honey Arch" in a Horizontal Hive. 🤭
I have a HH, with the entrance at one end on the Front, facing South, (morning Sun.) That way the Brood stays nearer to that entrance, say, to folk who have entrance(s) along the side, mid way along... See Fred Dunn's Videos. He's just Videoed one like that. 😏
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It sounds crazy, but a friend showed me another trick for ants. She sprinkles rubber bands around her counter to drive off ants and it seems to work. You could try sprinkling some rubber bands, or bits of rubber bands around on the top and see if that has any effect.
I saw the queen marked white being shakedown at 9:25 on the fourth frame
How do you contain the queen in 9 frames without queen excluder?
Care to share the dimensions for this hive? Also, can I use heat treated wood to build boxes and frames?
I would go for coffee nor cinnamon.
Sometimes kamon it just hurts like shit 😆
I'm just getting started in beekeeping. I have a langstroth vertical beehive I will be setting up next month once my bees arrive. I want to eventually move my bees from the vertical to the horizonal beehive, once I build it. I have to wait for warmer weather first. Will it be ok to shift the frames from the vertical to the horizonal without much disruption? I've also thought about keeping the vertical and slowly start another colony in the horizontal. If I get my new bees in April how long would I need to wait before I could split them to make a new colony for the horizonal hive? Is it a good idea to have a queen excluder to keep her in the brood section or do they stay in place?
Just curious is there a way to put a queen excluder in your long hive? Or do you just depend on a honey wall to stop the queen from moving?
It came with a excluder but I wanted to use a honeywall.
They are usually pre fitted Vertically. # Regular Stack Box QE's don't fit Horizontals, like just slotting in one...
May need to cut to Size, and have a Wood Frame or surround. # Those plastic ones, are to deep or long to fit my HH, as they come... 🙄
Try a bay leaf in the hive
Do you see an advantage of colony growth and health with a long Lang than with a traditional stacked?
First year using it so I have yet to over winter it. I think it will work good. However, my bees are doing fantastic in their traditional hives.
Hey Kamon, awesome vid, im thinking of getting a long hive myself. I do have a question. I caught my first swarm last week. They have drawn out empty plastic foundation like crazy. In a weeks time there is 3 frames of eggs/brood and 6 frames of solid honey. Im adding a second deep tomorrow. Should i take all those honey frames and put them in the top deep and replace with undrawn foundation or just simply add the 2nd deep on and be done. Im a first year beekeeper so i dont have any drawn comb at the moment. Thanks
are long hives so much stronger than regular hives?
Try spreading instant grits on top cover for the ants.
I use ant bait traps
Maybe I missed it, but what does this LLH have for ventilation? Is it a solid bottom? Are there top entrances?
Good looking hive, who made it?
Great Video.
Question for you Kamon. I'm in the NE--what type of (Langstroth) hive configuration do you recommend for summer and winter? Should I run double deeps all year long?
That is an unusual looking hive box, very interesting. Glad you mentioned swarm cells. I was inspecting my hives today and noticed one that had several frames of brood but no larva or fresh eggs anywhere in the hive. The hive has two frames that still need the cells drawn out so I didn’t think over crowding was an issue. The bees also had drawn out 7 active capped queen cells. I looked for the queen but couldn’t find her. I left the queen cells alone because without seeing any fresh eggs I figured the queen died and they were raising a new queen.