COULD THIS BE THE BEST BEE HIVE EVER?!?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2019
- When I saw the Horizontal Hive boxes in action on the OFF GRID with DOUG & STACY homestead with Dr. Leo I just knew this was the direction I wanted to take my beekeeping. A friend of mine, Mr. Todd, was so kind to build these Horizontal Hive boxes for me. I painted them, put the hinges on and secured the chain to the lid. Now they are ready for the beeyard ... the Daddykirbs Farm Apiary. Right now there are only 2 horizontal hive boxes, but someday I can envision a bee yard full of them so there will be no more stacking hive boxes.
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I’m onboard! Natural bee keeping all the way for me!
Watching the episodes on Doug & Stacy inspired me as well!
A much better system than traditional vertical nightmares!
I have absolutely NO PLANS to do beekeeping, but it's really fascinating to watch your videos!
Hi from Spain. I really like those new table hives, will be interesting to see how they come along. A little tip (that i kept learning the hard way) i always (now) carry a little stapler just in case i get a rip in my head veil whilst i'm in the thick of it. It works as a temp fix until i get home and sew it up. Great video.
I would suggest adding a locking compression cylinder. These are used on screen doors for example. They cost around 10 bucks, this should protect you on windy days from closing the lid on your hands or head providing you engage the lock. You can get sealed one or grease with grapeseed oil instead of industrial oils, so it doesn't effect the bees.
good idea. I'll look into something like that.
Thanks, now I have a new project! :-) Great looking Hive Boxes
Refreshing to see a beekeeper wearing some protection. I'm intrigued by the concept. I will have a good think about this. Thank you
Those are BEAUTIFUL. I think I'm in love.
I've never seen one made quite like this and I really wish I had that kind of talent. 👍❤️
I use silicone sealer on my vail to seal tears. I put it on a board and smear the silicone over it and 1/2" beyond the torn area. Work well and last a long time.
Those new boxes look awesome! I'm anxious to see your success with them.
I built 2 for my first year of beekeeping and love them. I can check parts of the hive without disturbing the whole colony. An added bonus, they survived a bear attack with no damage to the hive.
Really? How so, as they seem like pushovers to me, then everything would spill out for a bear dining experience. PS/slow cooked black bear stew is very delicious, plus you get a free rug.
I don't want to highjack this video, but want to leave some observations. but i came a cross a video on these several years ago and liked the idea (i have a really bad back) so i built 4 of these 3 years ago, but have only used 2 up till this year. Still learning with them. Some things to consider. I built mine with 1" pink foam insulation sandwiched between 2 pieces 1/2" BC plywood for the sides and end piece. I did this for warmth. Gets cold here in Nebraska. I will also insulate the bottom on any future ones i make. I also put a pitched roof (3/8" plywd covered with metal) with hinges on 1 side and a chain to hold the top when opening it to keep it from falling clear back over to the other side. I left a gap at the top where the plywood met and covered it with mesh screen for ventalation and put a metal cap over this to keep out the rain. I also use 4x4 legs that i notch out and actually sit the frame on and bolt to them. The 2x4 legs on the hives above i wouldn't trust once that hive gets full of honey. It wobbled quite a bit already. Mines rock solid. Having my own construction company for over 26 years gives me a pretty good background in building. Built it to the exact inside demensions of a Langsford hive so i can use the same frames. Make sure ur top boards are within 3/8" of the top of ur frames, or the bees will make honey comb between them. I learned the hard way. I cut a hole in the bottom to put a sliding piece (10"x14")on the bottom to be able to allow some ventalation in the summer. Really don't need this i don't think. What i'm finding out is , being high off the ground way to much cold circulates under them in the winter which is making it to hard for bees to sustain warmth. Killed off hives both the last 2 winters. This winter , i just finished enclosing them (around the legs) with 1 1/2" foam insulation (6R value), i enclosed 2 hives together so as to use a 2'x 8' piece as my hives are 4' long each. I placed a bunkhouse heater under each set , already set on low, that i will plug in and use in really cold weather. I'll insert a candy thermometer thru the insululation to see temp as i only want the dead air space to be in the high 20's. Hopefully i won't even need these heaters. The insulation will also block wind from under the hives. I don't want to heat the hives. The heatersb/ will only b turned on if extreme cold. Last year our winter didn't arrive until Feb 1st. Then we had 3 months of extreme bitter cold and snow. I lost my only 1 of these hives i had established & 1 super strong langsford hive. The only hive that survived was a top bar hive i had in the front yard protected by some old stand evergreens. i've got 4 of these going for this winter. 1 is not as strong as i would like going into winter as i had a late swarm i collected. I also have a really strong langsford hive and the top bar hive is really strong once again. Hopefully they make it thru this winter as i really like this concept . Another thing, i put a piece of insulation inside the roof over the boards leaving the vent holes open as there is condensation in the winter and it still needs to breathe, but heat escapes upwards. This helps keep the bees heat inside. I hope some of this helps those wanting to build their own
george jenkins do you build these for sale? I live in Vermont and it gets very cold up here too.
I am about to start this "hobby" and planning building my boxes. Is what you are saying is horizontal hive boxes are much more difficult to keep warm and maintain over cold weather spells than vertical ones? Did I misunderstand that? If so is the advantage of having the frames easier to access worth the risk?
please can you make your own video on how to build these boxes, would be greatly appreciated. thanks for the tips.
George, this was very helpful. I have built to horizontal hives for the summer, and I am worried about insulating it enough for next winter. I live in upstate New York. Thank!
Thanks George!
Looks lovely. Might I suggest a slight slant to the top of the lid to shed water. You are the first I have heard of Dr. Leo, I am looking him up now.
Is there anything to exclude the queen in the horizontal hive?
Yes, queen excludes are possible just as you can also have a false-end board.
I do not have a y horizontal hives but have scrutinized this and have found some designs do much better than others. Block foam 'weather stripping' or heavy vynal can work. I'll cross that bridge before long but using langstroth rather than laynes hives as my spinning equipment is langstroth
Very relaxing watching you in fast motion cutting the weeds out. ;p
A scythe beats a weed whacker every time.
Thank you for showing old Ukraine hive! It’s not top bar hive because have frames inside! I have 2 hive like your for 21 frames each! But for summer time not enough room for honey I put second box! Good luck for you! You have a great time! I’m living in Bellingham Wa!
Welcome to the Farm! Thanks for sharing with me.
This idea has legs...I am going to seriously consider this for next season. I am a first year keeper and have two healthy hives. I am a bit concerned about a proper winter plan. All the advice for wintering colonies is directed toward cold northern states and Canada. Since you have experience and success in South Texas I would find your advice very helpful in wintering my hives here in San Antonio. Please consider a video on wintering for South Texas.
Also wonder if bees experienced that new house smell when you moved them 😁😜
Very nice to inspiration and education
Becoming interested in beekeeping but I'm in the city suburbs. I came across Dr. Leo on UA-cam and I now own his book, "Keeping Bees with a Smile". Definitely think that horizontal hives are the way to go, and so is natural beekeeping, from what I've learned so far. Glad to see you making the switch. Those look really nice!
Wow looks like you are going to have fun with those hives!!!🐝🐝🐝🐝
I haven't seen one of your videos in a while. Maybe you are just really whipped from all the work, but I noticed a difference. Please make sure you are taking care of yourself so that you can continue to take care of others. I am glad you are making it easier to keep the bees going. If you can ever get a Slovenian style hive house going, you may like that even better. That is my dream hive that will age along with me. God bless & take care!
I would put gussets on the legs for stability AND tie the hive down to the ground so the wind will not blow the hive over. Tie the hive to the ground with either lags into the ground on leg brackets or a single wire from the center of the hive screwed down into the ground like using a dog run ground screw.
Over all I like the design, great job.
The attic will be a good spot to place hive beetle traps. That thing is built to give them spots to hide. Every slat provides all that length for hiding.
Interesting... I'm curious see how well this works and manages. Thanks for sharing!
Wonderful work! 🌹 🐝
awesome to see you doing this and can't wait to watch your results. I just built one to experiment with for next year. Should be a lot easier on my back.
I have never seen a horizontal hive before, looks good. Glad to see a beekeeper near me. We live up near Bandera.
Horizontal hive bees definitely is the way to go for me ! many thanks . I'll building these fall some of them and get rid of the regular langstroth , I don't like to have that many equipment ,and is must easier to work with.I was looking for something different ,somehow found your channel ,glaad I did ! the only thing I would change I'm going to use thicker wood.
I enjoy watching your videos many many thanks!
Instead of electrical tape for your bee mask screen, try velcro strips. One on the inside, one on the outside. Should work much better.
I know of nothing for which electrical tape is good!
Winner of a video, I have been researching "build your beehive" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Tiyia Beehive Basophilic - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some super things about it and my friend got amazing results with it.
Thought the same thing.
I would just sow the hole.
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Taping wire!
Great video. This is my first year keeping bees and I am using a long hive. I have a peaked roof for better insulation and I can fit different feeders under it if needed. I put my bees in on June 1 and everything looks great so far.
Awesome video Blake, I love the looks of the horizontal hives even better than the top bar hives and I think they would be even easier to build as well. Can't wait to see the transition taking place. Good Luck.
Not sure the bees will agree that horizontal hives are more fun
I didn't do well with the chain idea. The wind would push the top shut. Wham! I got chest hinges at the big box store. They have the advantage of locking open. I also put a bee escape in the lid for any stray bees left above the boards after an inspection.
i like it! its well done ! looks in order! very interesting!
We'll see how it works long term, but so far I like it too :)
They'll cover up those vents in no time :) good looking beehive.
I went to 3 holes per slat, using #8 mesh. They still fill them up in just a couple of days.
These kind of hives was native to Serbia, Vojvodina region. Then they got suppressed bu LR style of hive.
I work with "Poloska", a hive with 20 frames (42x30cm) and i am very satisfied with them. It's very easy to work with them and bees are extra happy with them. Swarms are a lot stronger than in LR :D
Top side must be insulation very strong 4 cm. Under side need air circulation holes. Bees need 35 degrees heat .. Co2 and moisture go down because heavy.. O2 heat goes up bees because thin. Bees consume honey easily.. This old technology works always.. basket type beehive.. loves from Anatolia..
In Romania the horizontal hive is the traditional hive. It has some advantages: one model of frames, not to lift heavy, much brood and bees, the frames remains always in the box and you don't need a special place (sheed) to store them. Also has some big disadvantages: the box is heavy, difficult to move in transhumance beekeeping, less honey versus vertival hive, the frames for honey are exposed to treatments for varroaa mites and the chemicals will fix in the wax, these hives are not practical for profesional beekeepers because requairs more time for regular controls and works.
The vents look too small for the amount of water evolved from concentrating the nectar to honey and wax. A trolley can be easy to make from a couple of old bicycles
Same thoughts like mine
The top bars are my main hive
Why do you get less honey than from a vertical hive?
Pull outside frame first . You should be able to visually see where the bees are. Go to opposite side. As I see you rolled bees taking a middle frame first. Thanks for sharing your time!
Thank you
And when you harvest keep a couple empty boxes on a wagon. That way you can pull your frames out and still no heavy lifting.
Great idea! I'm going to do just that with my old Aluminum Dock Cart
I wanted to get into bee keeping. It really looks rewarding. Keep the vids coming, very therapeutic
Thank you. I hope you can find a way to experiment with beekeeping.
So interesting! We were supposed to "foster" some beehives this year but the beekeeper had a bad year so not enough splits to put any out here. There's always next year!
Thanks for sharing.
If you noticed when you removed the frames from the old hive that honey was on the outside and brood in the middle, you place it on opposite side. The honey acts as an insulated around the brood
Seems like a good design to have a window top under the cover for less disturbance when checking in a cold period.
I like the horizontal hives. I would want a peaked roof, though, added on to top of the flat roof for insulation as well as rain run off. Oh...and snow, lol. Keep forgetting I moved to a place where it snows!
When you went into your bee yard to clear the weeds, I thought "That looks like hot, crispy Texas." Then I scrolled down and saw you're in Cibolo! I'm a little north of you in the Austin area. Looking forward to seeing how the long lang's work for you!
If your veil needs minor repair/s, I suggest you sew the tears with fishing line. If the line just fits a darning needle, it’ll hold up to the rigours of beekeeping. I volunteer with a charity and part of my work there, is checking and prepping bee suits for their training courses. Veils occasionally get damaged.
The advantages for me, is that a small reel goes a long way. And regardless of veil colour, there’ll be a line colour to match, (presentation being important).
I have two that I have made. One is in working order. The other is just placed but no bees yet. Just placed the second yesterday. You will like it.
So glad you've come over to the horizontal side! I've been using horizontal hives since 2015 and love them. I don't get as much honey, but one day I may make a queen excluder and a horizontal TB super to put on top just for honey production.I saw a video from Africa where someone is doing that with great success.
I have gone completely treatment-free; The first year I fed my bees sugar water to give them a leg up. I have never treated for mites, but the hive _is_ made from full 1"-thick western red cedar, which contain thujone oils that have been proven to adversely affect Varroa mites but not bees, (I can look up the studies if you are interested.) That winter (here in snow country) I poured a couple of pounds of sugar on the bottom board of the hive body - not fondant, not sugar water, just granulated, organic, white cane sugar. The next year, I didn't feed them except for some more sugar in January. Last year I didn't feed them at all. They are strong and healthy, and swarm every year. I believe swarming is how they cleanse the colony of mites.
My hive bodies have 3 open 2"-holes in the long side of the hive. The fist year, I only opened one hole at the far end of one side; they didn't build out more than a third of the box. The next year, I opened the middle "door", and they built out another third of the top bars. Last year, I opened the lat "door", and they built out all of the bars.
BTW - since we get up to 3 feet of snow for up to 3 months where I live, I only harvest honey in the spring after the first nectar flow begins.
Hi Kirsten . Thanks for the info I am in Canada . Just wondering how you winterize your longhive. I have 3 inch foam in the cover . Thanks for any info Dan
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Hey, Dan. I am in Western Washington on the northern Olympic Peninsula outside of Sequim - I can see Victoria, BC most days. In what part of Canada are you located?
Since I'm on the coast, my winters are pretty mild: Zone 8. While there may be snow on the ground for up to 3 months at my altitude (~500 feet/~152.4 meters), it doesn't get very cold here - only about 15° F/-9.44° C at the very coldest. Consequently, I don't need to do much to winterize the hive.
My hives were built with fully 1" thick Thuja plicata (western red cedar) by a company in Portland, Oregon called Bee Thinking, now defunct. It is such an awesome hive that I bought 4 of them a few years before they went out of business. It has a water repellent roof with an overhang that keeps the hive dry in our wet winters. There are ventilation holes under the "eaves". Some of my hives have mesh bottoms with sliding covers, but others have solid wood bottoms. The latter seem best for my area since it never gets very hot and I don't seem to have an overabundance of Varroa mites.
The one thing that worried me about my hive was winter moisture. The first year or two, I thought about making a winter quilt like those used in Warré hives, but I've not gotten around to it. My bees seem to do very well in the Kenyan TBH, as is.
I have come to be very hands off with them - they seem to know how to take care of themselves very well without my interference not that they are fully established. Last winter, I forgot to cap off all but one entrance to the hive. I posted pictures last March or April on FB of my hive with 3 feet of snow on the roof. They still thrived despite my benign neglect.
Some people in the local bee club wrap their Langstroth and\or Warré hives with quilts and tar paper. They use ratchet straps to keep the covers on. That's about all I can offer. I hope it helps.
Best wishes!
I like that! Thanks 🐝👍
I saw their video also. We have only had bees 3-4 years now, but I like the idea also. I wonder about the bees filling the outside frames though. We have trouble getting them to fill all the frames with the vertical ones. The other possible problem I can see is Idaho winters can be tough. The farther the honey is from the center, the harder it is for the bees to reach their food supplies.
You can take your vertical deeps take off ends of the ones that will be in center and one end of the ones that will fit on each end and make new horizontals we did :) Love our horizontals. You can reuse the supers to make a medium horizontal to use in spring to raise queens or make nucs. Just add divider boards and holes rotating front to back so the holes are not too close to each other.
Does it make sense to add a rod or stick to brace the cover securely in the up position if a strong back wind were to push the top shut?
I was thinking the same thing when he described the chain function.
John Sluga add a bunny cord to keep it from slamming shut
If you want it more secure, make the chain a little bit longer.
Hello. We are new subscribers. This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing this.
Human: randomly inserts the combs back into the hive
Bees: "Ah, I see the politicians are redistricting again."
😂😂😂😂😂
That’s how I feel because I hate trump .
Phil Chandler also shows how to Transition Frames* into Top Bar only Hives. Let the bees do the work !
Video shows him placing Frames into a Long Hive, Bar either side.*
* Bees will make their own top down Comb on these either sided placed Top Bars ! (Then you can move frames along/away to end of the hive. And/or remove Honey store for extraction. Or emptied Comb done by the bees. ! 🐝🐝🐝
In Germany, Melifera has long been available as one-room hive. Good system, nice to work with. Have fun.
Good luck Sir,,
Just clicked on this, form a komcha video, and wanted to mention, shungite. A mineraloid crystal. Heard the other day that it very helpful for bees, and helps them withstand some of the environmental stress they are exposed to... Even in the best of locales. thought to pass that on, as I love bees.
Komcha, nice typo! a short form. i meant kombucha.
holes in your hood? use screen patch and hot glue. Glue melds one to the other, is semi-flexible, and can be removed with heat gun or hair dryer.
Nice color copy cat! I built my yellow bottom horizontal hive three months ago. I built a gable top and painted it salmon for some contrast before adding a layer of aluminum. I like the width of your inner top boards mine are narrower.
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I reccomend keeping a deep or two for transferring honey frames into when harvesting honey.
Copy Cat LOL ... Hey, when you have a good idea it's going to be "borrowed". :)
Love the videos keep up the good work
Ya good for you Cant wait to see this new adventure .From Ontario Canada
Thanks for following along Deborah!
Interesting weed eater choice... but I see the point... quiet. Our bees don't seem to mind a gas weed eater or the lawn mower. Funny the temperament of them in various locals.
They look great! It has to be easier than moving all of those boxes around and squashing some of the bees when you do move them. Im excited to see how it goes.
I do hope there will be fewer bee casualties with this method.
Nice.
In middle east we have like this design but with some change we call it Abu Salman Natural System we don't need to give them any sugar or any anti faro any the bee need only 16 day to get out of the cell the system very powerful
Very good effort by Luke on your Tshirt!🎨🎈
You will do everything you can to make it work but in the end you will go back to the vertical hives.I have been there decades ago. I saw these in Bee Culture magazine back nearly 40 years ago.I like the idea but it just doesnt work like we always hope for.There is a reason everyone goes back to vertical hives.Good luck and have fun with your bees.
Me2. Built two top bars. It was fun but really not sustainable here in central Illinois. If you just want to watch a colony grow and harvest a little honey for yourself its great.
They don't winter well horizontally.
This has to be much better om an aging back in the long run ! thankyou for this post good quality video, nice work !
My back right now is fine, but YES... I think in order to keep it fine I'll need to be careful about all the heavy lifting.
I built a few of these years ago. The "Kenya" type of top bars are more problems. You tear off cross comb, or just combs, because you can't see cross- combing until you move the bar.
Frames are good, consider making an inner cover or 2 with regular bee space dimensions. Youll need to modify or delete the hinge set up.
Keep using an extractor, and reusing your frames. If you are setting them up foundationless, the work you save you bees is quite a lot.
Just a few things I ran into, I'm passing them on. I still like Langstroth hives better. You may too after a while. I have big 48" frame storage boxes now, but they could have bees again.
Fast-mo scything is the best part. ;)
I like this design. I made a video of a “horizontal long beehive design with the option to stack 8-frame supers”. You can do a search with those words between quotations to find the video on youtube. I think horizontal hives are the best.
Dr Leo recommended (in Doug and Stacy's videos) different designs on the bee hives so the bees know which one is home. Painted or simple duct tape.
I do plan on making some different colors and designs. The yellow was available to me this time and I wanted to get them done :)
I've seen people staple plastic playing cards above the entrance, too. Apparently bees are well able to tell the difference between a six of clubs and an eight of hearts, and know which one is their own home.
Just a UA-cam fan, but really liked your bar top hive. I think it is better than Manzer Apiary Inc., top bar hive, as the use non standard frames. With regular frames, you're is more versatile, and works with existing tools, spinners and other bee keeper equipment. Very clean design. Look forward to figure videos.
Hello - I plan to become a beekeeper and will build a horizontal hive. Question: Do you divide your colony - i.e., do you separate the frames that keep the queen and brood from the frames which you use to harvest honey? If so, how do you ensure that the queen does not crawl out and into the harvesting frames between the covers you place over the frames and the top of the frames? Many thanks in advance for your answer.
Nice!, for holes in the hood a dab of silicone calking if you have some works well
I have been thinking about trying out a few of these hives. Probably would of been a good idea to put them in the order you took them out of the old hive. Would be less confusing for the bees. Everything would of been the same just a new box.
Those horizontal hives look like more of a pain than a cure. Now if it was a 2 story hive i could see it working a little better.
Wouldn't it be cool to see one that opens up like an old tackle box? Where the top story would hinge up and back out of the way so you can see the bottom layer. I wish I had more time to do silly projects like that LOL.
Never watched someone use a scythe (?) before, pretty cool
I think bees will walk right over your divider board top is not thick enough. Very nice hive!
I'm a nub this year. Started with a vertical hive in May. Got a second queen by end of June while I was in the process of building my first horizontal hive. I found my follower board is not quite deep enough. My ladies squeezed under it. Sitting here now I just thought of an idea to add a strip of felt along the bottom. Thanks for the idea! I have split my ladies once more. I now have 2 vertical and the 1 horizontal hive.
@@davidlewis4179 the top is same as frames. They are walking over it same as a frame. Felt on top may work also.
@@00448296 I ripped a thicker board for the top of the follower board to fill the bee space above and used peg board that I had laying around. Oops! Peg board makes for a good queen excluder. LOL. I then lined the peg board with #8 hardware cloth.
Hope the painted lid works for you. Mine became a headache fast so I will go to a thin sheat of metal at some point. Maybe a slanted shingled roof next time.
I hate to disappoint you but I built three of these and my bees never liked moving horizontally inside the boxes. After two years, I gave up and put them in Apimayes and they are booming.
You may want to add hold downs for wind protection
i love this hive wish I could build it
I like that hive!
In a hive like this, do the move laterally during the winter and stay clustered? My concern would be winter time, with the cluster ending up on one side and all of their resources on the other side. Totally interesting... just curious about cold winters.
In regards to the holes in your hood, try a screen repair for a screen door. You basically cut a section of screen and sew it onto the old screen.
Love it! I just finished the illustrations for Dr. Leo's new book coming out next spring. I have build 4 of these now and I love them. I've also come up with a few improvements to minimize lumber waste, and have a full set of drawings to match. My design also allows for hive top feeders, if you would be so inclined. I actually have (6) 1" entrance holes, using plastic rotatable hive entrance discs rather than slots. Also included the bottom tray with screened bottom. Great video!
Dr. Leo throws down some knowledge doesn't he?
Very nice. How about those flow hives though? Please try one the Daddykirbs way.
Also, brood towards the entrance and ventilation on a few of your top boards.
Wife wants me to go to topbar hives also due to back issues. I have several books from Dr. Leo but my woodwork skills stink. I hope to meet Dr. Leo sometime. Wish I understood as much as he has probably forgot. 🐝
Go to his site he builds and sells them and free designs
make sure you keep the piano hinge oiled well, they rust easily even though they are brass plated. if rusted you may never be able to open the hive.
Actually Doug n Stacy's channel musta been one of the first aside from this that I got so much helpful info on stuff like when I first wanted to start fermenting and kombucha so the honey is really peeking my interest
(wish I could try beekeeping but I live in an apartment right now.....they don't even have yards here lol)
OFF GRID with DOUG & STACY are awesome :)
"Bees in the Hood" sounds like you just released a new Rap Album..
OpenSesame001 I like the bees in a couch!
You can put coffee cans under the legs and fill can with water to deter beetles n ants. Happy Hiving
If you want brood on every frame have entrance all the way along the bottom. If you would like some honey only frames have the entrance up the other end.
Looking forward to seeing how this progresses for you. don't be too quick to sell off your woodenware, you may need it for splits, nucs, etc. also will need them to tote the frames when you rob them of their honey. Still think you should do a couple of top bars. :D
I use my older deep boxes to make swarm traps. 100% success rate for 2 years so far. :-)
Looks promising .... think some bracing on the legs might be more secure?
Tack