#5: Do Muslims know that early Islam is based on HEARSAY?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Everything we know about Muhammad, the Qur'an and even about Mecca are based on stories compiled by men like Ibn Hisham, Al Waqidi, Al Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Al Tabari and others. These are household names for the nearly 2 billion Muslims who grew up believing that they all either knew Muhammad well, in order to get his story and his sayings correct, or they heard it from those who did.
Yet, when we put their names on a timeline to see when they lived, we find out none of them lived even in the century Muhammad lived, nor anywhere near where he lived, but created their stories about what he did and said over 200 - 300 years after the fact.
Thus, everything we know about how Islam began is merely a woven tapestry of lies.
The books by these men which all claim to be the irrefutable sources and the basis for Islam are nothing more than tales spun up by men who lived long after the events took place.
None of them were contemporaries of Muhammad. They were not eyewitnesses either, so how could they give an accurate and reliable account of what he did and said?
According to the "Standard Islamic Narrative", the emergence of Islam from the time of Muhammad’s birth to the revelation, followed by the massive explosion of Islam around the world all happened in a nice compact timeline faithfully accounted for by those who lived during the rise of Muhammad and Islam.
Yet, no such neat and tidy timeline exists. In fact, if you look at the earliest original documents known to Islam, all introduced 200 to 240 years after the fact, you will find that there are zero eyewitness accounts of Muhammad’s life. No source has been uncovered that can actually corroborate any and all of the claims made by Muslims today. So, why do we trust any of it?
This is a huge problem for Islam.
So, do Christian Origins have the same problems Islamic Origins have? Stay tuned to find out!
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Let no one say that Islam was ever peaceful.
You want to learn about peace.
Read numbers 31:17.🫣
@@alonzoharris9049 thanks for helping us spread Christianity 🙏🏻✝️
@@alonzoharris9049 I doubt that there has ever been a day in 1400yrs that Islam hasn't slain someone in the name of Allah.
@@ishtarlew598
Who commanded numbers 31:17?🫣
Alonzo Harris worships Muhammed (PBRB).
Most people cant remember what happened 20 years ago let alone 200!!
___ Two days ago. ;)
I am convinced that Dr. Shabir Ally is watching these video series with keen interests and curiosity. At first, he attempted to counter them as to dismiss them. But he was quickly overwhelmed and subdued with evidence - evidence that were shown on the video screens for all to see. Now, for the most part (and perhaps for the rest of his life), Dr. Shabir Ally is reduced to doing video series with subject matters like “Should a Muslim Woman Wear Hijab” or “Should Muslims Buy Clothing from Department Stores”.
Dirty lieing heathens for Christ - be patient when ,🔥 will be your ever lasting abode.
Here is my favorite video
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@@aaabrams1889 You sent me a video you claimed is your favorite video. It is a little over 7 minutes long. I watched it. I like it. So, what is your question?
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Jay asked those questions and Shabir answered😎
And the winner is from who got the most applause.
@@aaabrams1889 we know that abduls will applaud anything, even when uncle zakie said that women will also get houris in jannah, and we all know houri IS female, NOT male. So even if u say mosquitoes create honey, abduls will applaud, so long as u act like mohijab when claiming it
"Those days are OVER!" declares Al Fadi. Love it!
Muslims HATEEEE this video 😅 judging by the comments it struck a nerve
It's also eye opening that the fictional writers of the books lived hundreds and a thousand miles away from the Mecca neighborhood.
How far is Greece to Jerusalem? Thousands and thousands miles away? -10-20-23
This video was the best till now, finally i undertood something
__I also am finding this easier to follow. Am already looking forward to the next video.
Excellent time line. 🙏
good word "hearsay", i loved it, atleast for islam...
I read it as heresy not hearsay. I suppose there's not much difference.
the reason why nothing from Rome empire about Mecca really nailed it for me..
The Romans did covet that trade to some extent, but they didn’t have much interest in the Hejaz and the region containing Mecca. Early in the first century AD, they set out to invade southern Arabia directly from possessions in Egypt. Because of disease among the troops, it didn’t work out. They later tried coming down the other end of the overland incense route, striking into Nabatean territory from the Levant. Again, it didn’t work out, this time because of a lack of water supplies. The Nabateans were eventually absorbed into the empire, giving the Romans control over the most important incense routes and making direct control over southern Arabia less important, much less connecting routes through what would eventually become Mecca.
Moreover, southern Arabia stopped being so important in later antiquity. Despite having some pretty clear associations with frankincense and myrrh, Christians weren’t nearly as interested in them as their pagan ancestors, and they stopped buying them. And more trade began to come into the empire via the Persian Gulf than the Red Sea. So, while the Romans were in a tolerably good position to invade western Arabia by the early second century AD, they soon stopped having reasons to, particularly seeing what bad luck they’d had at conquest in the region.
*True, the whole Islamic "history" is based on HEARSAY. Hadith and Sirah are oral tradition and not history. Oral tradition is like telephone game, based on what they called "rawi" (the transmitter), then form the "sanad" (the chain of narration : from A from B from C from D from C and so on). The problem with this kind of sources is, the people who recieve the stories (Bukhari, Muslim, etc) never saw or meet all the people they recorded in their Hadith's collection, they just collected it from the people who recieve the story from their elders. Again, Hadith is like "telephone game", the more generation the story is passing on, the more corruption we got from the narrative.*
You can’t know anything about history without oral transmission.🥴🤥🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 you have a pdf.file as your best moral example
The whole stories of this Meccan Cult are based on oral tradition, and oral tradition are part of a literature genre, called "legend".
@Forgiving Rohan naaaw, the Muslim shuffle....
@Forgiving Rohan - unlike Muhammad, Jesus was documented by eye witnesses, immediate apprentices, and government historians; all which wrote within 50 to 100 years of Jesus. And unlike anything Islam can offer, we personally experience the Person of Yeshua with miracles and visions and Divine Presence consistent with what He taught and promised us in Scripture.
Truth will prevail !
Really good video!
Great job …. again 👍✨
Good Stuff! So we're saying the Abbasids created the history of Is!am (the Companions, Muhammad, hadith, tafsir, sira) perhaps even the Koran itself... since there isn't NOTHING from before them?
Well, THAT'S a fact!
These alleged people who supposedly were with Muhammad like “UMAR” what is the actual evidence of them living,
As Umar took Jerusalem in 638 Ad did he really come from Mecca. And what is the evidence that he in fact came from Mecca.
Because if Mecca didn’t exist until much later how could he come from a town that didn’t exist. Question for Dr Jay Smith.
Could you do a video on your choice of headwear? It’s historical significance, your choice of fabric and house you fold it. You must put a bit of meticulous effort into it as it’s always perfectly symmetrical.
It would be cool to put a human graphic on those maps of these men as the "empire" expanded. How they popped up as time went on. And also add the oldest fragments locations of the quran as the empire expanded and the actual real empires during that time.
Now that's would be cool
I wait the next video
Excellent concise formation, but even better Graphics!!!
Great Job
Hopefully muslims in speaker corner ,listen to it.......
Why would Christians insist that Jesus died on the cross? Conversely, why would Muslims insist that Jesus did NOT die on the cross? Ladies and gentlemen, the fight is not in Mecca, the Trinity, or the virgin birth. The fight is at the cross. We cannot be victorious over evil until we POUND the message of the cross to every person far and wide. Even the Apostle Paul claimed to know nothing save, Jesus Christ and Him crucified. We plant our flag here and make THIS the hill we die on and we CANNOT lose.
So many Sahih Hadiths that say that the Quran is not complete
The words verbatim of your god is not enough?
If you throw out the words of men in your bible. You wouldn’t even have one page.
Is the word verbatim of your god not sufficient ?🥴🤥
@@alonzoharris9049 islääm have no answers.
@@alonzoharris9049 when your own sources say that you don't have a complete Quran, you change the subject and attack the Bible that your own Quran affirms.
@@alonzoharris9049 deflection is not an answer.
@@ishtarlew598
You have never studied Islamic literature.
I have studied your bible. There is no trinity in your bible.🤥🥴
Excellent teaching about the lies call the Quran and the Hadiths. Praise be Jesus Christ, our Great God and Savior
Greeting. I've got a quick one. Am I correct originally there was only one jamarat pillar and when it was multiplied ?
There were always 3 Jamarats.
Birmingham contains parts of chapters 18, 19, and 20.
Now the Traditional Chapters 18,19 and 20 are not in the chronological order Muhammad recieved them.
So CH 19 is actually # 44 and CH 18 is Chronologically revealed # 69 and Ch 20 is actually revealation # 45.
So we can see 19 and 20 are #44 and #45 and revealed in Mecca
Chapter 18 is #69 also revealed in Mecca but has 24 other revelations between 45 and 69..
So CH 19 and 20 came 1st and 18 came long after, if we look at chronological order muhammad received these #44,45 and #69...
#48 and #49, #55, #58, #59, #60, #61, #62,#63,#64, #65,#66, where revealed in Medina... before Ch 18(#69 in Mecca)
So idk something seems weird with carbon dating of this Birmingham Manuscript and the order Muhammad recieved them and distance between Medina and Mecca and timing...
Anyone?
They don't develope Islam, they develope the proto-Sunni religion, that soon became Sunni or the Ahl Sunnah Wal Jemaah (Aswaja) and Shia religion. The Islamic religion never existed in real world, only exist in Quranic text. Sunni and Shia are two different religion, that contradict the Quran. The Sunni itself are the religion who follow the Sunnah (Hadith).
The trinity is invented in the fourth century.
Jesus is made co equal with the Father in the fourth century.🥴🤥
@@alonzoharris9049 nope.
@@alonzoharris9049 nope, Trinity is found everywhere in the Bible. But, Muhammad is nowhere can be found in 7th century historical manuscripts. There is only 4 word "mhmd" in Quranic text, and all of the word is not a proper name but title. If we read the whole context from where the four title is found, it clearly refering to Isa (Quranic version of Jesus). So, the all four refrences of "Muhammad" in the Quran are title for Isa (Jesus). For example the verses in Qs 3:114 is exactly the same with the verses in Qs 5:75. Verses Qs 3:114 refering to Muhammad (title), and Qs 5:75 refering to Isa (proper name) :
Qs 3:114
Wamaa *muhammadun ilaa rasuulun qad khalat min qablihirrusulu...*
Qs 5:75
Maal *masiihuubnu maryama ilaa rasuulun qad khalat min qablihirrusulu...*
Clearly, Muhammad is a title for Isa 🤓🤓🤓
Clearly, Muhammad is title that Quranic writer use for Isa.
@@borneandayak6725
The trinity is a square circle.😊🥴🤣
So the Abbasids formulated the Book based on a man who lived in the 7th century and added the place Mecca.The Chinese whispers ( Hadiths) came 240 years later, compiled by Bukhari, Sahih Muslim et al who never saw the Man, but had the authority to whittle down the 600,000 hadiths to 4000 and some odd.The human interpretations ( Tafasirs) came later too, did Tabari the Jewish convert to Islam meet or know Muhammad from the 7th century( Maybe he time travelled as being a Jew he had special grey cells) ...and yet these Abdools have the gall and audacity to question the authority and authenticity of the Gospels....Lord have mercy.Keep opening Pandoras box Dearest Brethren in Christ...Ameen
@Forgiving Rohan Provide your proofs.Dont come with a stupid dawa script that you are parroting without EVIDENCE.Where in the Quran does it say that it was revealed to Muhammed...all that you get is explanations in brackets...so you Abdools must come up with the Science of Bracketology, you already have Science of Reinterpretation...lol
Paul the pagan is an invention of gnostic believers.🥴🤣
Paul the pagan never mentions an earthly Jesus who walked around with disciples.🥴🤥🤣
Paul the pagan never mentions Joseph. 🥴🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 Alonzo Harris worships Muhammed (PBRB).
@@irishheritage893
Paul was gnostic.
He calls his flesh evil.
@@alonzoharris9049 ___Bible Study class is down the hall. This is the Koran Study class.
Yes, the muslims know that the coran was first oral, but they wil tell that Allah preserved the coran from the begining to the end.
Can you address the Shia claims?
Some (?) of them say that they have older hadith.
But how do you come to believe Ali is killed in Siffin and not the standard narrative which says he was killed by Ibn Muljim in the mosque during prayer?
Can't wait to see the holes scattered...
#HolesInSIN
The Hadiths appear to be all written when the Abbasids lost control of their Empire during the Anarchy of Samarra. I wonder if that has anything to do with what is recorded within the Hadiths?
What are hadiths?
@@aaabrams1889 They carve out a fabricated male central figure idol of Muhammad (sunnah) - stories of his conduct were made up to justify various actions committed by the caliphs. This includes all the polygamy/pedophilia/rape/genocide etc. and is why the geopolitical Left is infected with it (as Islam is the root of Nazism).
Your believer vs. unbeliever war is collapsing & all who endorse division & war will get exactly what is coming to them.
@@nothingnothing397
NOTHING what YOU are saying is true, as this is all the Rhetoric from the Evil missionaries😈
HELLO - YOU IDIOT
The Sunnah is what Mohammad (saw) preached and Practiced and was done since his Prophet hood and only WRITTEN DOWN for future references anf this amounts to over 90% of all Hadiths collected by Hadith COLLECTORS (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, etc.) and THEY (hadith collectors) had NOTHING do do with the Caliphs who ruled after Mohammad (saw).
NAZISM
and all those 'isms', are XTIANS who started the World wars killing MILLIONS of innocent women and children and before that, the Church with the Monarchs ruled with a Iron Fist, KILLING millions in the name of Jesus or rather LUCIFER as he was crucified instead of the Real Jesus.
@@aaabrams1889 It takes a "believer" to "believer" evil is good. You are the "believer".
They have you believing & fighting in a division & you believe & fight like a slave.
You're too busy trying to blame/accuse others of something to look at yourself.
Why did Adam get kicked out of Eden? Because instead of accounting for his own actions, he pointed both fingers outside of himself.
The original sin is blame. What you & Muslims constantly do is blame "Jews" / non-Muslims / white people / homosexuality etc.
Blame & blame & blame & blame & blame. Never accounting of ones own actions. This is why you are the way you are.
You must look at objective truth vs. falsify without indulging in your prejudices and hatred. Your own leaders are the real criminals.
Believer vs. Unbeliever is a division, not a religion. If you believe a god of one endorses a division in two... you are upside-down.
That's what fascist Nazism is... a practical inversion of reality causing pain/suffering/death. Tree of knowledge of good & evil.
Stop harassing people on here and go look in a mirror. Bring a Qur'an with you, look at yourself and ask "Am I a book-worshipping divisive Jew?" If it clicks... drop the book and discover life the way it is... one. Stop dividing & blaming others, or not and be a miserable book-worshipper who serves the Zionist Jew. Where do you think you got the idea a book is the perfect word of a god? The Jews.
It could probably be some contribution from some Arab Jews who converted to Islam as part of the Abbasid Caliphate who started under the Sassanid Empire!
@ CASTRO MASIMPLE When Umar took is oath in Jerusalem (treaty with Sophronius), it was on the Torah. Please read carefully the treaty (as recorded by Tabari).
Before the Abbasids, the 'Amir al-Mumineen' were Jewish Nazarenes.
Research baramkids zunbil and invadion of balkh
Yet no questions where answered by the Islamic person?
I'm still waiting for answers from part 1 .
MMMuhammadd
It looks like Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi become irritatingly jealous when they could read something beautiful are written about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they want is that all writers would always go by their line of thinking of always finding faults against Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and that what they should write will always be about his bad sides.
If only they have a supernatural power to squeeze the intelligence of Michael H. Hart and the likes of him, they would do so to make them write anything negative only about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they lose sight of the fact is that they cannot suppress the intelligence of the writers and their independence to write. They cannot make them succumbed to their evil motives. -07-21-23
Jealous of the son of shaytan? 😂 😂 😂
200 years of "oral tradition" means 6 GENERATIONS! (at least)
Can you put here that's graphics, please
Learn before or after. BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD THE DIVINE QUESTION DIVINE TEST DIVINE MERCY WAS READY FOR MEN ANGEL OR GOD. ISAIAH 1:18. THE DIVINE QUESTION AND DIVINE TEST PERTAIN TO BEHAVIORAL HABIT AND TO RIGHT OR WRONG. ENDLESS QUESTION ONE ANSWER. DIVINE TEST. WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR HOLY ANSWER?!., Jeremiah 17:9-10. Jeremiah 29:11. Hebrew 4:12. Wisdom of God. Hebrew 7:12. Isaiah 61:3. I TRUSTED SOMETHING BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A ROBBER AND A THIEF. HEBREW 4:12. Psalms 144:9. IBONG LIGAW. TOO MUCH LOVE WILL KILL YOU. HEBREW 6:18.
great job.. the only problem i have is how Jay says words that which contains wh.. like why and what.
__He's a singer.
What I mean is this: __ In a noisy place such as Speakers Corner, beginning a question/comment with a CONSONANT is helpful:
the distinctness of consonants are easily heard.
But WH words do not have the same 'bite' as have consonants. At Speakers' Corner, Jay would fire up his 5-gallon mountain lung capacity to push out WH words with gusto. Opera singers, in the solar plexus region near the front of the rib cage, have a kind of bulge, as a result of powerful solar plexus muscles.
In order to be heard at noisy Speakers' Corner, Jay would belt out his string of WH word like he was Pavarotti. It is not a habit that is easy to break, in the quiet UA-cam video recording studio with Al Fadi. Pavarotti, were he still alive, would have a good competitor in Jay, on a stage.
Signed :
Girl whose father belted out Torna a Surriento in the car at the top of his lungs. Go to Google and search Pavarotti singing Torna a Surriento. You'll forgive Jay his WH words.🙃
Why?
__Some of Jay's (SC) Speakers' Corner communication methods spill over into his post-SC life. Speakers' Corner is a noisy place. People speak over one another. Stringing together a series of WH words helps keep sentences/questions short.
The goal at SC is to get people thinking about different angles of historical research and complex religious topic. A short string of WH questions results in the listener, in a second or two, having dozens of little questions and thoughts go off in her or his mind.
The speaker does not have to ENUMERATE dozens of little question or thoughts; a quick, rapid string of WH questions triggers an ENUMERATION in the mind of the listener in a flash.
What is nice about this current Jay/AlFadi Sum-up Series, is its more 'classroomy' nature, its chronology and over-view nature. The man has left Speakers' Corner; Speakers' Corner will never totally leave the man
The other useful communications tactic at SC, is rapidity of speech. Jay has slowed down in this current series with Al Fadi, from race car speaking speed, for which I am very grateful. At SC, a lot of people in attendance are trained debaters who are very knowledgeable, so there is less need for filling in details.
The current audience in this UA-cam platform probably has more people like myself, who are hearing this history and text analysis for the first time, and we need a slower pace and a presentation that fleshes out details.
@mysotiras 018 What?
@mysotiras 018 I've not seen them do that. But I don't have a problem with his accent. It's understandable to me even though I have a different English accent.
Is it not worth pondering upon as to why the ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL cannot still be produced by the Christian scholars up to now? If I were a Christian, I would give a second look on my faith since I have no book from God to serve as my basis for my spirituality and religiosity. I would not hesitate to give a second thought by questioning the genuineness of the source of my faith which come only from the opinions and ideas of different men.
How could it be that their words become the words of God? Am I in the right track? Or, should I now shift lane to erase the doubts bothering me? Or, should I choose procrastination until the original Aramaic Gospel would surface from oblivion?
But my end is getting nearer and nearer every day. I have to act now and waste not a second. I have to choose the religion whose book comes from God. With that, I am sure that I am following the words of God, and not the words of men. I am certain now that I have a better place to go to. Paradise. -08-07-23
It was aulloh's duty to protect the injeel. If you can't find it, that's his fault, not ours.
Stop disturbing us with that.
Without error? Yeah okay 👌
Uzbekistan is over one thousand miles from the middle east. Al bukhari lived there.
enough said
How are they expanding during the apostasy wars?
Did the Abbassids need a "Warrior" hero so continued the Myths surrounding the only prominent figure of the past, Muhammad?
What? Say the abduls weren’t lie to by other abduls. Too funny.
___I OBJECT to your sarcasm and snickering.
According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book.
Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul:
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES:
1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS:
1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -06-01-23
Aulloh said he would make the believers in Jesus prevail over the disbelievers until the day of judgment.
If Paul defeated aulloh, how is that our fault? 😂 😂 😂
It was Umar who entered heaven from the dome of the rock he was infatuated with that spot, but he was not alive he was killed even buried under it in the cave where he got his revelation from, he told his men he will rise like Jesus did after 3 days, that where Islam took their Muhammad from, they borrowed so many peoples story I call it the cocktail religion.
If Mecca was the city of all the prophets, then why was it not on any map till the 9th century? Why are there no artifacts found in Mecca if life was there before Muhammad, all those building today and no artifacts under earth hmm no wonder they are concreating the ground up. I like to know how Abraham's wife Sarah maid Hagar who left into the desert traveled over a thousand miles to this ZamZam well seen an angle traveled back thousand miles to give birth to Ishmael .
Hagar, also spelled Agar, in the Old Testament (Gen. 16:1-16; 21:8-21), Abraham’s concubine and the mother of his son Ishmael. Purchased in Egypt, she served as a maid to Abraham’s childless wife, Sarah, who gave her to Abraham to conceive an heir. When Hagar became pregnant, her meek manner changed to arrogance; with Abraham’s reluctant permission, Sarah treated her so harshly that she fled into the wilderness. There, by a spring of water, she was found by an angel of the Lord, who told her to return home and promised her that she would have many descendants through a son, Ishmael; he would grow up to be a “wild ass of a man,” in constant struggle with all other men. Hagar returned home to bear her child.
About 14 years after the birth of Ishmael, Isaac, Abraham’s son with whom God had promised to make a covenant, was born to Sarah. One day Sarah saw Isaac and Ishmael playing together and, fearing that Ishmael would also become an heir, sent the son and mother into the desert. There God sustained them and was with Ishmael until he grew up. The Jews believed that Ishmael was the ancestor of a number of Bedouin peoples dwelling in southern Palestine. There are also legends stating that Ishmael was an ancestor of Muḥammad, lol..
How far is Egypt to Mecca? 1200 km as the bird fly's, if you believe the Islam story that Hagger and Ishmael survived travelling 1200km with one skin of water (15 liters) to Mecca where the boy kicked some sand and up came a spring then I feel sorry for you.
Islam borrowed so many stories taken the meaning with it, hence the Quran is in a terrible mess and makes no sense to anyone. Hence, they need scholars. Thank God the Bible tells the story from start to finish without blankety blank..
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh).
By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. -05-30-23
Ask aulloh where he kept the injeel. Why didn't he protect it? 😂 😂 😂
Was the entire muslims community in medina and mecca during the time of Muhammad all illiterate?
please provide indonesian text
The BIBLE in the eyes of JAY SMITH.
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh).
By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians.
According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book.
Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul:
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES:
1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS:
1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -06-03-23
So is Christianity
According to muslims the telephone game is scientific! It’s not but they think so.
Dr Jay. Excellent work that you have done all these years
But unfortunately, you have wasted all your effort to research the “hijacked” islam, instead
Islam was hijacked by muawiyah and ended up in damascus
Centre of excellence of Christianity at that time
Even the population was 90 % christians
Your “abbasid islam” was where the SIN developed in Kufah, near the centre of excellence of Judaism
That is why your data and research only produced a lot of contradiction about islam
All the translation of al quran you used, all the hadiths and other info which you referred to, were all about a “bogus islam”
All your data and finding means nothing
In addition to that the seerah, hadiths, tafseer books you mentioned were produced & published a long time (may be 30-50 years) after the persons whose name was written as the writer/author, died
Bukhari did not author, produced and published the Saheh Bukhari which we have today
Nor did he authorised any of his students to do it
He may only had collected thousands of hadiths for his personal usage and his scholarship
However, Bukhari was a great islamic scholar, he wrote and publish many books and writings during his lifetime
Except the Saheh Bukhari
Please include the findings and info of the date/year of those books you mentioned, actually produced/published/available in your timeline
Thanks
How I earnestly wish that there is now an original ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age.
From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it?
I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -05-26-23
At least we really knew who said it. You don't even know who actually wrote those gospel....its just like picking up some papers with writings on it laying around on the floor. And even then, u chosed what you liked, translated the text to fit your liking and threw the rest.... Too bad you can't do that to the quran, no matter how hard u try...
The name of the books in the Bible, are named by their authors often. What are you talking about?
But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness.
(Al-Quran 4: 166)
Allah witnesses that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Him, and [so do] the angels and those of knowledge, maintaining [creation] in justice. There is no ilah (deity/god) except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
(Al-Quran 3: 18)
What about the Quran they found? Dated to 645?
As The Roman Empire didn't trade or even try to take Mecca, let alone leave records about it, it didn't exist in their time. That breaks the Quran right there. Now, add in it doesn't get the location of Eden correct. Bahrain is the major part still above water! That's enough for me ^_^
No such thing. The Birmingham manuscript only have 3 surahs, all stories that predate Islam.
The Birmingham folio is just two pages, with nothing referring to someone called Mohammed, Islam or Muslims, if it was Quranic, it would give Muslims a problem and go against the standard Islamic Narrative, if that couldn't be believed it puts everything into Question, it's was probably written by an heretical Christian.
@@knowitall6677
It’s a Quranic manuscript.
There is no need to lie. Scholarship accepts this to be Quranic manuscript.
Can you show me a biblical manuscript from the first century?🥴🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 it is not a quran manuscript as stated as it is not complete and the stories predate islam. You cannot provide an Uthman manuscript because one does not exist.
One Source. One message to all Prophets. One Religion. Only ISLAM.
Q. 3:19. Indeed, the RELIGION in the sight of ALLAH is ISLAM. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.
Q. 2:213. Mankind was [of] ONE RELIGION [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. AND NONE DIFFERED OVER THE SCRIPTURE EXCEPT THOSE WHO WERE GIVEN IT - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path.
Q. 2:208. O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and DO NOT FOLLOW the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.
Q. 2:112. Yes [on the contrary], whoever submits his face in Islam to Allah while being a doer of good will have his reward with his Lord. And no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
Q. 2:256. There shall be NO COMPULSION in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
Q. 23:52. And indeed this, your religion, is ONE RELIGION, and I am your Lord, so fear Me." -06-05-23
I looked into christianity and judaism before acceptimg islam/montheism in 2002. I never bought into twirling a live chicken overhead in order to transfer their sins to the chicken [kapporet]. and christians 'eating flesh drinking blood of jesus ' cannibalism ..were nonstarters for me
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Drinking “blood” of Jesus? Are you a moron? That’s a symbolic gesture of Brotherhood and Devotion! They drink wine and ate bread! Bread not flesh! Don’t you guys worship Muhammad and committing Shirk by including Muhammad in your Shahada! And don’t you ask the Black Tones to forgive your SINS! Ordering Muslims not to eat flesh but to KILL HUMAN FLESH wasn’t revolting 🤮 for you when you accepted Islam! Surah 9:29
@@tc7500
Drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Jesus who was actually LUCIFER who they crucified, is SATANIC AT ITS CORE, whether it's symbolic or not!!!
@@aaabrams1889
Don’t be an idiot! Show me a verse in a Bible where Jews ate flesh or drink blood! Your Prophet and your Allah in the Quran ORDERS the believers Arabs that IF IN DOUBT to ASK ASK ASK the people of the book! Obviously Muhammad knew how dumb his Useful Idiots followers really are! The Quran actually AFFIRMS the Bible Ingil and the Torah! You need to follow your own cult Allah! ASK ASK ASK people of the book like me! 😂
@@aaabrams1889
🤣🤣🤣 Typical Muslim who always always can not stay on topic to defend their man made dangerous racist evil Supremacist intolerant destructive Genocidal dangerous backward nonsense Lying cult! Islam is indefensible! Just watch this video AGAIN! Attention Deficit Disorder like all of them! 😂
There is no real human flesh, so where is the cannibalism?
God is only one.
God sent messengers.
God is not a messenger.
Jesus was a messenger from a long line of messengers.
Messengers are chosen from men to convey message to men.
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth.
(Al-Quran 5:75)
Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely.
(Al-Quran 14:11)
Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men.
Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
(Al-Quran 22:75)
There are angel messengers
He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Me; so fear Me."
(Al-Quran 16:2)
Angel Gabriel is referred to as The Spirit.
And mention, in AlKitab (the Book), Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east.
And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Angel Gabriel), and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.
She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ."
He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy."
She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?"
He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.'
(Al-Quran Translation/interpretation Chapter Mary/Maryam(19) : 16-21)
Gabriel identified himself to Mary as "the messenger of your Lord".
The story of Gabriel appearing before Mary(Maryam) to inform her about her future son (Jesus/Isa) is also mentioned in the bible.
And angels have wings.
It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," rather, "be rabbaniyyun, because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it."
Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims?
(Al-Quran 3:79-80)
There are angel messengers
There are human messengers.
God is not a man.
God created men.
God is not an angel.
God created angels.
God is only one.
God have no son.
God is not one third of three.
God is not a messenger.
God sent messengers.
Lady boys alonzo Harris and Aaron H believes in 4 gods alhat manat aluzah and allah and his 2 right hands and 1shin
@@dundadunda552
Did you get all that from your 3 god's delusion ishtar bichtar and bastart🤣
@@dundadunda552
Princess Murrah is a production of the slippage from your Bible's backside - here read::::::.
Mark 14:51-52
A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, he fled naked, leaving his garment behind
Genesis 38:8-10
Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also.
That's a lot of holy spillage 🤣
@@S734L7H1 nope from pedo mo, Murderer mo and rapist mo...islaams trinity😛😛
A cheap and perverted copy of the gospels, some of witch were written in the first century, long before tour fake profit the child rapest
Imaginary dialogue between a Muslim and a Christian
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus
Muslim : Is Jesus the son of Mary.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who created Mary?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim : Jesus is a servant of God.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Jesus died on the cross?
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who resurrected him?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who sent him?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim : Did God have a beginning?
Christian : No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim : Is Jesus God.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Where's God?
Christian : In Heaven.
Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian : Only one God.
Muslim : Where's Jesus?
Christian : He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim : Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian : Only one God.
Muslim : Then how many seats?
Christian : One
Muslim : Where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim : How are they seated on one chair?
Christian : It's only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
Allah clearly tells us in Qu'ran :-
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth.The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary,
was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him.
So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say,"Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." - Surah An-Nisa [4:171]
Bible says :-
“... God is not the author of confusion ...” (Corinthians 14:33 )."God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:
hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?." (Numbers (23:19) King James Version (KJV)
According to the plan prepared by god, god brought down god. god remained for nine months in the womb of a creature created by god.
god made her pregnant to give birth to god, a baby god. After the birth of baby-god, we circumcised baby-god.
And when baby-god became great god, god's creatures wanted to kill god, but god prayed to god to save god but god is going to abandon god
despite god pleading insistently to god but god left god alone to be slaughtered by god's creatures under god's gaze and all to save the creatures from god.
Contradictions in the Bible
Nobody knows how many, please check it out which is false book.
1.Who incited to David to reckon the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24:1)
Satan did ( 1 chronicles 21:1)
2.The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men in one time?
800 (2 Samuel 23:8)
300(1 Chronicles 11:11)
3.When did David bring the ark of the covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the philistines or after?
4.When David defeated the King of Zobah, How many horses men did he capture?
1700(2 Samuel 8:4)
7000(1 Chronicles 18:4)
5.When did David bring the ark of covenant to Jerusalem? before defeating the Philistines or after?
Before(1 Chronicles ch 13and 14)
After(2 Samuel ch 5and 6)
6.In that reckon how many fighting people were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand(2 Samuel 24:1)
1.1 million (1 Chronicles 21:5)
7.How many fighting men were found in Judah?
500000(2 Samuel 24:9)
470000(1 Chronicles 21:5)
8.God sent his Prophet to threaten to David how many years of famine?
7 years(2 Samuel 24:13)
3 years(1 Chronicles 21:12)
9.How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign over Jerusalem?
22 years(2 Kings 8:26)
42 years(2 Chronicles 22:2)
10.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
18 years(2 Kings 24:8)
8 year(2 Chronicles 36:9)
11.How long did Jehoiachin reign over Jerusalem?
Three months(2 Kings 24:8)
Three months and ten days
(2 Chronicles 36:9)
12.How many pairs of clean animals did God tell to Noah to take into the ark?
2 (Genesis 6:19-20)
7 (Genesis 7:2)
13.How many stalls for horses did Solomon have ?
40000 (1 Kings 4:26)
4000 (2 Chronicles 9:25)
14.In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha king of Israel die?
Twenty six year(1 Kings 15:33-16:8)
Still alive in the thirty-six year(2 Chronicles 16:1)
15.How many overseers did Solomon appointed for the work of building temple?
Three thousand six hundred(2 : Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred(1 Kings 5:16)
16.Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
2000 (1 Kings 7:26)
Over 3000( 2 Chronicles 4:5)
17.Of the Israelites who were freed from Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrathmoab ?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve(Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen(Nehemiah 7:11)
18.How many were children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty- five(Ezra 2:8)
Eight hundred and forty -five(Nehemiah 7:13)
19.How many were children of Azgad?
One thousand two hundred and twenty-two(Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two(Nehemiah 7:17)
20.How many were the children of Adin?
Four hundred and fifty-four(Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five(Nehemiah 7:20)
21.How many were the children of Hashum?
Two hundred and twenty-three(Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight(Nehemiah 7:22)
22.How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
Two hundred and twenty-three(Ezra 2:28)
One hundred and twenty-three(7:32)
23.Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of whole assembly was 42360. Yet the number do not add up to anything close,the total Obtained from each
book is as follows:29818(Ezra)
31089(Nehemiah)
24.How many singers accompanied the assembly?
Two hundred(Ezra 2:65)
Two hundred and forty-five
(Nehemiah 7:67)
25.What was the name of king Abijah's mother?
Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah(2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, Daughter of Absalom(2 Chronicles 11:20)
But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar( 2 Samuel 14:27)
26.Did Joshua and Israelites capture Jerusalem?
Yes, (Joshua 10:23-49)
No, (Joshua 15:63)
27.Who was the father of Joseph, Husband of Mary?
Jacob(Matthew 1:16)
Heli (Luke 3:23)
28.Jesus Descended from which son of David?
Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke 3:31)}..
Ignorance at its finest lol
@@J1WE
YOU CAN'T REPLY
YOU are the ignorant one!
@@aaabrams1889
Nothing to reply to. Its a bunch of imagination with added verses. Always trying to make it out as some error or mistake or contradiction.
Can easily look it up. Haha 😄
Besides been refuted thousands of times.
@@J1WE
But it is...errors AND mistake AND contradiction....YOUR BELIEF😅
1) How can Jesus be the Father?
As he clearly says that the Father is Greater 😃John 14:28
@@aaabrams1889 Jesus isnt the Father. They are God. GOD IS spirit. Not a man.
A river isnt a stream and a stream isnt a creek but they are ALL WATER. Same substance and essence and source. But can experience 3 distinct observations of that same water.
If you want to know how your theory of "Document hypothesis" and the Protestants' "Sola Scriptura" are both the two sides of the same coin and why they are both worthless, read the article below...
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ISRAEL AND THE NATIONS PAGAN
Paul(Romans 11 thru 9)
The Qur'an in the Qur'an(Reminder) refers to the Law of Moses. If anyone couldn't figure out that the title Qur'an on the cover of the book is a fraudulent one, then it is safe to argue that, that person doesn't understand the polemical exchanges between the pagans and the believers not even the content of the Bible for that matter.
"We have given you the 7 oft-repeated verses and the glorious Qur'an..."
Translation:
We have given you the Fatiha and the Law of Moses as the basis for your legislations in rejection of the Roman pagan Law, the papal sacraments, and Trinity.
Here is another one:
"What! If this Qur'an is from God you believe not but a Rabbi among the Children of Israel attests to its similitude and believe while you proudly reject it..."
Does this look like some words from God? What was the Rabbi doing in Mekka messing with Allah's revelation? LOL...
Or was he just comparing two translations of the same Torah, one in Hebrew and the other in Arabic?
The dude was a Prince-Legislator, a Founding Father, and a statesman
"Hear O Israel Jesus is the Messiah, i.e. Christ..."
OPTICAL ILLUSION!
Jesus is Muhammad(the Praised-One), fools. A point was made but you guys missed it altogether due your poor reading skills.
But the adults and the Sufis in the room know that Muhammad is not a given or personal name but a substitute title, a euphemism for Christ/Messiah. Since Jesus is said to be that Christ, then Jesus is Muhammad.
We make the difference between Islam and the Arab-Qureishites propaganda contained in the Hadiths, and the "Sira Rassul Allah," etc...
That marketing gimmick was meant to capitalize on the pilgrimage to Mekka and not as historical facts. Kaabahism therefore is not Islam!
For the "stone that the Mekkan builders rejected and exiled had become the cornerstone..." and it is our Lord doing.
We also know that when someone promulgates a Constitution like the Constitution of Medina, receives embassies, passes legislations, proclaims a tax Codes, raises armies, signs treaties, etc... with some neighborhood nations, etc..., that person is in a role of a Founding Father like George Washington, Emperor Constantine, Cyrus the Great, Caesar Augustus or Alexander the Great, etc... We don't take the word "Prophet" in the literal sense.
So, If you have ever wondered why a substitute title was needed for Jesus and a name shifting for the Arabian Founding Father, here you have it:
"Your people don't want to hear about Jesus. And when His name is mentioned, lo! your people burst into clamor thereby..."
That is why an OPTICAL ILLUSION was created:
We(the Children of Israel) send you, O Abu Quasim, among your own people so that they may believe in our God and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ/Al-Massih, help Him, praise Him(Muhammad=the Praised-One), sing for Him evening and morning...."
"Remember when Jesus asked, "who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied: 'we shall be the helpers of God. Bear witness we are Muslims.'"
By the way, According to Acts 11:26 is a Christian he who believes Jesus to be the Messiah, that is to say Christ, foretold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by Israel.
"I will send the Christ/Messiah, a Prophet/Messenger like you Moses, Him, they must listen...." Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:22-25; Acts 7 ; John 4:24-26, etc...
The word CHRISTIAN was coined in Antioch of Syria and not in Athens, Rome, or Boston.
In that sense, Muslims are Christians because for Islam Jesus is the Christ announced in the Law and the Prophets, born of the Virgin Mary. You may as well check the Transfiguration in Matthew 17:1-13 where Jesus "oversees" a meeting between Moses the Lawgiver and someone who would ratify the same Law for the Arabs(the descendants of Ishmael). In Genesis, Abraham was promised many Princes for Ishmael.
So the Muslims are Christians certainly not of Paul's Tradition, yet still Christians but the Americans are not...
Every American should know, then, that If Jesus is Lord, it stands to reason that Nature's god is NOT.
Yet, Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible and in the so-called 'Declaration Of Independence" claims just that...
And this is the official position of the American government because Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States and is the one who penned the so-called "declaration of independence" which became the Law of the land in the Constitution.
Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible inspired the "Bill Of rights" and specially the First Amendment which states that every religion under nature is as valid as the next; this is why polytheism and Idol worship enjoy special protection under Natural Law which pushed out Canonical Law or Sharia Law.
Nature's god states that Jesus did not resurrect because there is no such thing as resurrection of the dead; men die and worms take care of their bodies and that, most surely, wild dogs took care of Jesus' body.
Nature's god claims that there is no supernatural, no miracles, no virginal birth, no revealed Law since Laws are a construct of societies and each society makes its own laws in accordance with its need.
That the Ten Commandments were not revealed and are no better than the Law of Hammurabi.
For Thomas Jefferson, the Apostle of Nature's god, Nature's god instituted government on earth to distribute rights without responsibility: right to liberty from morality, right to pursue happiness, happiness for all(We wonder how government will enforce happiness which is not a tangible good), and right to life...
Paul, Jesus-Christ's Apostle to the "Pax Romana," on other hand instructed us that Government was instituted on earth by God to keep order, render Justice for the equality of the Children of God in view of the Last Judgment.
Nature's god insists that Life stops here and that there is NO immortality: "Let's eat and drink for tomorrow we die, and nothing awaits us after death. Don't be missing out..."
Jesus said man was born corrupted and can purify himself with the means God put at his disposal.
Nature's god however holds that man was born perfect but got corrupted by government.
We wonder If all the jails built across their lands are only for members of government.
Nature's god is truly Satan who set out to contradict the True God on every single line!
So If you are an American you should worry about the subversive nature of the American founding documents, America's Nature's god, and the fate of your impious founding fathers who worked hard to mislead mankind away from the Gospel.
Enough of that circular reasoning.
Please worry not about Islam; it has been around for more than 1000 years. I am just wondering If America would be around that long...!!! Worry about the disastrous fate of America, that house built in the sand...!!!
Through Mary, God...!!!
More in:
1/The Making Of The Arabian Messiah(Christ), Sole Ruler Of Mankind Like Augustus Caeasar.
2/Christianity: Circumcised(Islam) Versus Filioism(Uncircumcised)...
@mysotiras0187
The topic is Jesus Messiahship which Islam affirms while the man on the video tramples upon...!!!
@@Pax-Africana
YOU WERE BUSTED ON THIS💩ALRREADY.
@@aaabrams1889
You are being delusional; you cannot bust the truth...
"Muhammad" is a Jewish Messianic titile which introduces a Jewish Messianic protocol. Just like someone would say His Majesty to address the king.
The joke is on you If someone else made you swallow it as personal name....
Again, check the dictionary for figure of speech, simile, metaphor, analogy, allegory, parallel...
The fake "Allah" says, His message contained in the 114 Surats is a simile, but you took it for a personal name in a literal sense. LOL...!!!
It wouldn't be a simile If someone born in the desert of Mekka was given the title Muhammad(Praised-One) as a name from birth.
Either Allah is lying to you or you are lying to yourself ! LOL... as does every IMPOSTOR!
@@Pax-Africana
HELLO!!!
YOU should be ashamed to promote a colonialist's religion who came to Africa with a CORRUPTED bible in one had and a Gun in the other,
"Muhammad" is a Jewish Messianic is what those Pagan Pauline Colonialist told you
Here is a Jewish Professor who studied Islam for over 50 yrs and lectures to academics at Israeli Universities.
Is he wrong? ua-cam.com/video/GJLtu9qpuC4/v-deo.html
@@aaabrams1889
The Arabs are impostors... They fed us with lies, nothing but lies!
Why don't you debate with Daniel Haqiqatjou or Shaykh Uthman? Real Muslims, not this paid actor
Omw! Did you see how the apostate prophet made mincmeat withiqiiqatjou? He made him ppikachoo!😀😀
@@murielpucoe9213 Imaginary dialogue between a Muslim and a Christian
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus
Muslim : Is Jesus the son of Mary.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who created Mary?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim : Jesus is a servant of God.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Jesus died on the cross?
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who resurrected him?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Who sent him?
Christian : God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim : Who is God?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim : Did God have a beginning?
Christian : No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian : Jesus.
Muslim : Is Jesus God.
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Where's God?
Christian : In Heaven.
Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian : Only one God.
Muslim : Where's Jesus?
Christian : He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim : Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian : Only one God.
Muslim : Then how many seats?
Christian : One
Muslim : Where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim : How are they seated on one chair?
Christian : It's only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
Allah clearly tells us in Qu'ran :-
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth.The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary,
was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him.
So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say,"Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." - Surah An-Nisa [4:171]
Bible says :-
“... God is not the author of confusion ...” (Corinthians 14:33 )."God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:
hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?." (Numbers (23:19) King James Version (KJV)
According to the plan prepared by god, god brought down god. god remained for nine months in the womb of a creature created by god.
god made her pregnant to give birth to god, a baby god. After the birth of baby-god, we circumcised baby-god.
And when baby-god became great god, god's creatures wanted to kill god, but god prayed to god to save god but god is going to abandon god
despite god pleading insistently to god but god left god alone to be slaughtered by god's creatures under god's gaze and all to save the creatures from god.
Contradictions in the Bible
Nobody knows how many, please check it out which is false book.
1.Who incited to David to reckon the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24:1)
Satan did ( 1 chronicles 21:1)
2.The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men in one time?
800 (2 Samuel 23:8)
300(1 Chronicles 11:11)
3.When did David bring the ark of the covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the philistines or after?
4.When David defeated the King of Zobah, How many horses men did he capture?
1700(2 Samuel 8:4)
7000(1 Chronicles 18:4)
5.When did David bring the ark of covenant to Jerusalem? before defeating the Philistines or after?
Before(1 Chronicles ch 13and 14)
After(2 Samuel ch 5and 6)
6.In that reckon how many fighting people were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand(2 Samuel 24:1)
1.1 million (1 Chronicles 21:5)
7.How many fighting men were found in Judah?
500000(2 Samuel 24:9)
470000(1 Chronicles 21:5)
8.God sent his Prophet to threaten to David how many years of famine?
7 years(2 Samuel 24:13)
3 years(1 Chronicles 21:12)
9.How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign over Jerusalem?
22 years(2 Kings 8:26)
42 years(2 Chronicles 22:2)
10.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
18 years(2 Kings 24:8)
8 year(2 Chronicles 36:9)
11.How long did Jehoiachin reign over Jerusalem?
Three months(2 Kings 24:8)
Three months and ten days
(2 Chronicles 36:9)
12.How many pairs of clean animals did God tell to Noah to take into the ark?
2 (Genesis 6:19-20)
7 (Genesis 7:2)
13.How many stalls for horses did Solomon have ?
40000 (1 Kings 4:26)
4000 (2 Chronicles 9:25)
14.In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha king of Israel die?
Twenty six year(1 Kings 15:33-16:8)
Still alive in the thirty-six year(2 Chronicles 16:1)
15.How many overseers did Solomon appointed for the work of building temple?
Three thousand six hundred(2 : Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred(1 Kings 5:16)
16.Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
2000 (1 Kings 7:26)
Over 3000( 2 Chronicles 4:5)
17.Of the Israelites who were freed from Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrathmoab ?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve(Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen(Nehemiah 7:11)
18.How many were children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty- five(Ezra 2:8)
Eight hundred and forty -five(Nehemiah 7:13)
19.How many were children of Azgad?
One thousand two hundred and twenty-two(Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two(Nehemiah 7:17)
20.How many were the children of Adin?
Four hundred and fifty-four(Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five(Nehemiah 7:20)
21.How many were the children of Hashum?
Two hundred and twenty-three(Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight(Nehemiah 7:22)
22.How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
Two hundred and twenty-three(Ezra 2:28)
One hundred and twenty-three(7:32)
23.Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of whole assembly was 42360. Yet the number do not add up to anything close,the total Obtained from each
book is as follows:29818(Ezra)
31089(Nehemiah)
24.How many singers accompanied the assembly?
Two hundred(Ezra 2:65)
Two hundred and forty-five
(Nehemiah 7:67)
25.What was the name of king Abijah's mother?
Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah(2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, Daughter of Absalom(2 Chronicles 11:20)
But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar( 2 Samuel 14:27)
26.Did Joshua and Israelites capture Jerusalem?
Yes, (Joshua 10:23-49)
No, (Joshua 15:63)
27.Who was the father of Joseph, Husband of Mary?
Jacob(Matthew 1:16)
Heli (Luke 3:23)
28.Jesus Descended from which son of David?
Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke 3:31)}.
@@harriskhan7671 .
YES,yes , we know your crap answers. Now back to the issue at hand , or don't you dare ?
@BramaleaRoad, If they're the best you've got, it will be an easy win for the other side.
Jay Smith believes in three gods.
Mohammad believed in 4 gods and so do you.
Lat, and their 2 daughters Manat and Uzza. Al is just a word that means god. Lah, Lat, Uzza, and Manat are actually the personal names of these pagan deities Your pagan prophet bowed down worshiped and prayed to them in Q 53:19-20😂 🤣
Boring and lazy argument from stone worshiper.
Ähhh, shut up
Bot, shut up.
@@borneandayak6725
Your mangod is called a stone in the bible.😊🥴
The cultures of the areas of Afghanistan and Uzbekistan influenced the evil insertions of the pre Islamic quran.. my guess?