600 IQ SHORTCUT Goes STRAIGHT THROUGH The Map!
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Hello everyone! Dapper here and today I made a track in Zeepkist I hope you enjoy!
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Listening to Kan get more angry as time went on and finally snapping when you laid down the fast time was hilarious
The fact it's ACTUALLY just go STRAIGHT through each checkpoint and to the goal is hilarious.
best part of this one is that you could crash into every wall in the map and still not find the cheese, you have to know to slide sideways into that one bit
It always catches me off guard when theres just someone zooming through the sky
Then i remember its just dapper forgetting to disable photomode
Yannic should add a car builder to Zeepkist. After all, the big part of soap box derbies IS the build of the cars.
Yeah, but then the campain to unlock cars becomes useless. Maybe add the car builder as an unlockable item for completing the campain?
@@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 replace cars rewards with car parts.
@@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 not if the campaign gives you premade parts
In the next update you can customize your zeepkist more, you can choose your soapbox, wheels in front, wheels in the back, glider, zeepguy can now be colored in 5 seperate pieces and your hat and glasses are separated
Some maps, sorta like this one actually, require the carts to be pixel perfect. I think if there is too much cart customization it might make maps impossible for those who don't know the build, or who haven't unlocked certain parts.
Everyone going left was so close to the cheese, so close yet so far.
I love when dapper is actually able to pull one over with the cheese.
The best cheese is the one that shows no signs of being a cheese. Excellent job, Dapper! And I'm glad that your cheese worked out in the end :)
Trackmania has a HUGE incentive (and a lot more resources) to fix the controller vs keyboard disparity, and they haven't managed yet, so I'd say Zeepkist having the same problem isn't a big deal at all lol
it is an impossible problem to solve. the smooth steering vs tapping won't be able to be fixed and that problem get's even worse if you compare keyboard vs steering wheel. it is either better to use one of them or it will be bad for both of them. sadly there doesn't seem to be a sweetspot that works for both equaly good.
Somehow Apex Legends managed to mess this up even more, the Aim assist given to controller players is so big that all the pros use it.
There's only 2 hack solutions and 1 actual solution (which is horrible though) that I can think of:
One is to make the cars loose less speed at the same steering angle when someone uses a keyboard. It won't make the two modes equivalent, but at least keyboards have an advantage on half of the maps, if you can adjust it right (which you won't be able to, not only because the skill of the top players develops over time).
Or you could save separate "keyboard" and "controller/steering wheel" leader boards and have the game fudge the times so that the tops of the leader boards line up for each track and can be displayed as a single list. Nobody would notice if their in-game clock progresses at a second every 1.023 seconds; and times on the leaderboard slowly changing is imho acceptable if they include a "(+0.78s controller penalty)" or "(-0.29% keyboard bonus)" note. The problem with that is that you have to build the fudge algorithm such that intentionally putting down a bad or mediocre time doesn't poison the handicap.
The only way to actually solve the fact that the keyboard just lacks the fidelity in position is to use several steering keys. You'd have separate "strong left" "gentle left", ... keys. And on top of that, you can make it so that holding "strong left" and tapping "gentle left" gives you a different steering angle than holding "gentle left" and tapping "strong left" than holding both keys. And tapping only "gentle left" a different amount than tapping only "hard left". 2 different keys per direction would theoretically give you 8 different steering amounts (HR HT HH TT TH RH TR RT), but I don't know how many of them you could cram into a control scheme that remains intuitive enough. Probably only 6. And I think that it would still not make keyboard players quite as good as controller players.
@@Pystro Sort of funny that you came up this actual solution under someone talking about Trackmania, because that's basically what Trackmania did. Trackmania has action keys in their game which makes it so players are able to do certain turn amounts whenever they want on keyboard. And your conclusion is accurate, while it makes the game a lot more consistent for keyboard players, there will still always be turns that you don't have the perfect action key for.
TM players use analog keyboars with input limiters
You should make a track where the "cheese" gains you time on the checkpoints, but looses speed, so between the last checkpoint and the end, someone taking the normal round actually overtakes.
That's a mean one.
This is one of his first cheese video ideas. Have a look through old videos and you'll find it 😊
He's done bait cheeses before.
Finally Dapper made an easy cheese but still well hidden.
Ok, that was actually a really cool cheese. Love how it all lined up perfectly straight and basically hidden in plain sight. Probably my favorite cheese you've done :)
This certainly lived up to my expectations! The only thing that would've made this video better, would be hearing Kosmo groaning over the way Dapper speaks.
That was a really clean shortcut idea
That was such a satisfying cheese
I'm so glad, "Where's the cheese dapper?" Is back!
The moment he revealed the cheese had me laughing so hard! Can’t believe he just went straight through all that!
So cool seeing the prototype track at the end of the video there.
Stoll is a Swedish word for a horizontal mining shafts. I think there is something similar in German so the title is spot on re herring.
Yep, it's 'Stollen' in German. But I didn't make that connection, maybe because there wasn't a tunnel
I love the segue from 'less steering = faster' just before the straight line shortcut
The super satisfying B-line combined with kAN's reaction made for a very comical bit there :D
A big cheese + Kan reaction + Yannic not finding it = Instant classic.
holyyyyyyy that is maybe the most satisfying shortcut I've ever seen
I was laughing so hard when you pulled the cheese 😂 I feel like the cheese is getting tastier lately, keep it up!
Always love the cheeses like this that are hidden by the presence of other, more obvious cuts, but this might be the craftiest of them all!
I love kAN's reaction whenever dapper gets a cheese time in any of his maps haha
I cackled loudly as soon as the cheese was demonstrated, bravo! One of the best :)
i found the wall but didn't know what to do from there
Does Warcans not play anymore?
Hope so
@@bolttanker9190 you hope that Warcans does not play anymore? Whyyy?
I think warsnac featured in some videos a week or two or three ago
On screen chat. Person 1, piston engines. Person 2, combustion engines. Me, a piston rides in the combustion chamber.
And not all pistons ride in a combustion chamber where fuel and spark are used. Thank's for the shows Dapper, and have a nice day people.
I love how you keep running into your foe: Straight paths!
I am glad you are back with this game! Love Yannick joining
So satisfying when Dapper actually pulls off the cheese and no one else finds it. Your maps are the best
i need more pixel perfect shortcuts like this pls its so satisfying!
I genuinely enjoy these troll cheese maps, especially when Kan loses his mind trying to figure it out.
Props on the cheese Dapper, it was spectacular! Also loved the little peak behind the scenes at the end.
It's funny how Kan thinks he found the cheese, and 4 of them too.
Ok, not gonna lie, that was a really clever cheese! Love your ideas and ingenuity!
It's always impressive how you manage to sneak in a creative cheese. Most be do much research especially because you can only use them once
This is the best cheese ever!
Can i play Zeepkist on xbox?
Dapper's making so many cheeses, he could solve the world hunger.
You've really refined your smoke and mirrors dialogue since the last time i watched one of your videos 😂
I gotta admit, this is probably one of my favorite cheeses that I've seen.
The fact that dapper can make cheeses day in and day out and STILL people won't find them is amazing
definitely keep trying to come up with awesome cheeses that have to be impossible to find or you have to do a certain thing to get it right. you got away with doing it without anyone noticing also.
They know Dapper well, since the begining they knew something was going on 😆
i have (re)watched so many of the old dapper zeepkist videos that i certainly was confused by the modern lingo :) fietz casually rizzing around (or something like that;)
6:24 "He's not straight--"
Oh happy pride!
Today, Dapper made me moist... and he didn't take no shortcut to my heart. :U
Next video should be a fake tree that leads to a tunnel that goes under the map. 8:45
I don't even know how you do it, but these cheese tracks never cease to be entertaining. 😂
I like the last minute of this video. It is a nice visualization of the entire cheese.
When there are gaps in the trees, then you know there's a cheese.
That was awesomely perfect. Potentially best Dapper cheese so far. Definitely a runner up.
30 min team
Beating the team of players out there to just debunk the map of cheesing, impressive.
That cheese was amazing! We need more like this! Or more fake cheese like this? Maybe fake the cheese, to make the fake cheese the real cheese? I don´t know. I´m lost.
Apparently my 4yo knows you. On setting the video he excitedly exclaimed "When is he go going to go through the rock"
The wall line up is freakin perfect dude
That was the most satisfying Shortcut ever
Dapper you should definitely make a regular track with regular short cuts but make sure the fastest time is a min or more then make a totally different track underground where you go just below a min with their own short cuts and play that map twice
I really thought the cheese was getting up the short wall on the left and into a tunnel 😂
The funniest cheese yet! So good, loved seeing you fly past everybody
This is such a good one. I love so many of dapper/kosmos tracks.
I think this is the best map/video you've made so far. Genius.
Wow,this the first time Dapper won 4 times in row
Dapper has gotten so good at making cheese
I wonder if you could make that cheese any faster? possibly more hidden boosters along the path that boost you to ridiculous speeds? with those boosters possibly also helping other shortcuts so that people don't notice them being out of place... you could do the omni-directional boosters to accomplish this. Possibly have them visible inside the shortcuts to give a hint that there is another way to use the shortcut? Just spit-balling ideas...
The cheese king! Loved this video and the breakdown and example of how it was made at the end!!
This is it, THE best cheese skip ever.
This was Gouda, or at least my favorite cheese!!! Well done Dapper!
Mmmm that's sum good cheese 🧀
That was an epic press forward map!
Ok, I think this was my favourite cheese yet :D
Cheese batman, there is the cheese😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Omg that shortcut was epicly glorious. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Very good, lol that was actually one of my favorite videos.
that's some grade A wisconson chedder!
I'm so glad zeepkist is back and with my favourite dapper cheeses! I'm enjoying the new vids
Everyone running into the left wall reminded me of generative AI
Thats actually pretty satisfying
This was the best so far.
I gotta applaud that one.
There's no cheese like dapper cheese. Awesome.
Bro sounds like Uncle Dane's little brother.
Kan was right. The trick really was to steer as little as possible.
reallly enjoyed this am happy to see dapper actually doing it :) bravo
He finally broke Kan.
I was one second away from winning 😢 That was a sick cheese though.
this was the best cheese I've seen so far
hey dapper, did you used to do videos on starship evo? your voice sounds familiar
If there's trees there's a cheese
That's the good stinky cheese.
what a great set up.
I recognise that noise at 9:00
Does dapper use steelseries?
Can't remember his name but he's the designer, he said he likes stools, we should send them some samples 😉😉
Sigma is a "lone wolf" mindset. I think kan is saying you have no friends.
Well done Dapper, well done
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not the brain rot