"And all it takes is a few boxes and wall mines to be able to climb over a wall you're not supposed to and enter the negative zone." As opposed to the first two thief games, where finding the right ledges to climb up onto can lead to the discovery that you've been trapped on a floating island the whole time.
What's weird is that on the 1st mission of Deus Ex if you look out to the background (being new york city) You'll see everything except the Twin Towers. They were left out of the game because the developers forget them. However when questioned about this Ion Storm said the towers weren't there because of a terrorist attack. That's right. Deus Ex predicted 9/11 a year before it happened.
I FIRST played Deus Ex 1 two years ago and I absolutely loved it. I ignored the obviously dated graphics (I don't have a problem with that) since I knew it was a 2000 game and I dived into this gem. What I most loved was the story and the numerous ways to complete it (There are a TON of posibilities). Oh, and the soundtrack, it's really great and it helps a lot to create atmosphere.
AlbertoBC7 I don't think you can define a game that has you waiting for the target reticle to zoom in whilst the enemy 75% of the time deliberately misses every shot when you're practically standing right in front of them a gem... If anything that is completely ludicrous game design. I'd take System Shock 2 any day over Deus Ex, cause at least I can be sure that the enemies won't dance around like fools and would actually present me a challenge that isn't down to artificial difficulty due to the mechanics being mediocre and inconsistent! Half of the stuff, such as Pepper sprays, Gas grenades, Tranquilizer darts, stealth pistol (Practically one of the worst weapons in the game), normal pistol works fine from a distance even with the enemies being in the same room as you they're almost completely deaf and don't pay attention to what is going on above or below them... Robots are easy to kill as well, you can even get behind them when they're scanning the area or take them out with a rocket. In terms of choice however, if you choose to try and collect every item just be sure to choose the GEP gun (Yeah it takes up a lot of inventory space, however it allows you to virtually blow away turrets you can't find a password for to shut.) Hacking is nice, but who was the genius that made the dumb decision to have it timed when reading the emails? (Hey, here's some important information concerning the games plot, are you a fast reader cause if not then fuck you!) Now I can understand it being timed for the terminals, but emails that vary in size? Another part that shows the mechanics flaws is where you can save JC Denton's brother, Paul. (Yeah, again it is cool that you can set L.A.M's on the wall near to the door to take out the ambush getting ready to kill Paul.) However, this moment also completely falls on its face as the very moment Paul walks out of the door of his hotel room, he turns into The Terminator, completely impervious to damage, and whilst you sit around and wallow waiting for your aiming system to kick in he takes out most of the guards by moving around constantly, almost with perfect accuracy!? (It's almost as if the game wants to mock by saying: "Ha Ha, you can only stand in front of fire to get a perfect shot, you see even though PD is supposedly INJURED on behalf of the game narrative, he's still more competent at killing than you are...) It is like the developers are saying: "You've got all these lovely choices, however these monkey tuned mechanics are staying with you..."
AlbertoBC7 Now that's a thing I can agree on, its sound-track is great, however in terms of atmosphere I'd say the music has more personality than the atmosphere of the game. (Some of the back story is good, but you don't have many civilians referencing any of it... Nor is any of the news-papers actually dated and therefore makes it harder to work out the events of what happened before Bob Page took over.) Though the game recognises your accomplishments and deeds per-se, all it does is reference them once and they're never brought up again? (Take, for example the first Unatco guard you can kill after subduing the TERRORIST, yes Manderley say's: "it is impending investigation" and yet he doesn't go along with it?) Another, part like this occurs a bit later in the game when you finish the airfield mission in NYC. ("You can kill all the guards there except for Gunther before leaving to return to Unatco.) Yet, this time Manderley says nothing to the fact that you basically just took out 12 of his men... O.K, the game recognises you for killing AN, but again it is a reference, Alex mentions it once and Gunther mentions the same line twice... The problem with Deus Ex's narrative, is that it imposes on your choices! (It is point-less, wasting the soldiers after rescuing Paul at the Hotel as the moment you die you get taken to the MJ12 section of Unatco.) At moments, despite the game allowing you to PLAY HOW YOU WANT, they're plenty of times like this that are completely on rails.
What I liked about Deus Ex was that the characters in the game gave me some pretty solid arguments, as to why I should help them. My favorite part has to be speaking with Morpheus as he gives a pretty good overview of the history of human society, what ESPECIALLY fucks my mind is how he says "We will soon have our god, and we will create it with our own hands". Think about google! Where do you immediately seek answers when you need them? We pull out our glorious smartphones and start googling, we seek and store knowledge of ourselves on the internet, and Google is a gateway, the internet is everywhere, and soon we will be able to store our consciousness in an external nonphysical computer database which we already today know as "clouds". We are literally creating god and heaven with our own hands. Soon the machines will be controlling our government, set with the main goals to preserve intelligent life and gather knowledge.. Unless we nuke ourselves before that...
That's cute and all, but you cannot store your consciousness onto a computer. Why? Because that's not how it works, the brain is an organ, that's like saying you can download your liver into your computer. And are you seriously comparing Google to a God? It is a collection of as much knowledge in the world (if it's actually uploaded to the internet that is) as any human knows, Google, and any other search engine isn't a God that can actually be able to create the Universe and every single piece of matter in it. And why the fuck would anyone let a machine decide how we humans are governed? We barely trust other humans with the job. This comment is naive beyond comprehension.
And I find your comment cynical beyond comprehension. Technological fallacies aside, I truly believe there will be a point where we can fully integrate our consciousness into machines. The OPs google comparison was just meant to point out we managed to achieve the idea of a global knowledge databse, which would be the first step towards creating a man-made god, not that we are that close to completion.
“With Half-Life, Thief, and System Shock 2, first-person games had been steadily raising the bar, and then a company called Ion Storm released Daikatana and made the bar tunnel right into the ground beyond the wit of spelunker. “ - Most underrated ZP quote
I keep hearing Invisible War sucked because it dumbed everything down and the last level was shit. And when I hear that I get the hankering to hear that precious jingle, "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee"
TARINunit9 I'm a huge fan of the series and I tought Invisible War was pretty good. It's just not AS GOOD as the first one, but it's still better than that Human Revolution garbage.
Invisible War had one major drawback: One type of ammo for all ranged weapons. This means when you used up ammo for one type of weapon you could only use melee weapons. Which was quite frustrating at later levels when you encountered many heavily armed enemies that either exploded after dying or had almost no ammo upon dying. The nanosword was also nowhere near as strong as in Deus Ex 1. Not a whole lot of biomods to choose from, but some were pretty interesting, especially the black market ones. If you had electrostatic discharge for example, you could disable sensors and even bots with your sword without draining your bioenergy. So imo, not entirely a bad game.
"Well, in broad terms, Jew sex traditionally occurs after a Rabbi has given his blessing, and often through a hole in a bed sheet. Another thing you may be wondering about is *DAY-UHS EX.*" I was 9 when Deus Ex came out, I did indeed think it was pronounced like "Jew sex." This is one of my favorite ZP jokes. We should probably nominate Yahtzee for "priority list of people whose brains need to be scanned into a computer for posterity."
Trust me, here in Queensland, swimming and poison resistance are pretty important. If you don't have them you will likely die a slow and painful death either from poison or exhaustion during swimming. If you haven't leveled up your poison resistance or swimming you just just blow your brains out and restart the game.
I love the comparison of the Tranq gun. Actually accurate since anyone shot with one would run around screaming alerting his mates and pulling fire alarms before you pass out. Kind of like how enemies when severely wounded actually attempt to run away
You know, as frustrating as the tranq crossbow is, it's realistic. You don't get instantly get knocked out via tranquilizer, it takes time for the drug to affect you. Not sure if that was the devs intention though.
Oh wow, I had no idea Deus Ex, one of the best games of all time, happened to be made in Austin, Texas, the city I live in, a pretty nice city. Now it makes much more sense with it's rampant Illuminati references.
Had a very similar revelatory experience, I live about 40 minutes east of and often find myself hanging out in Mesquite, TX, the same city OG Id Software made Doom and quake. Coincidentally Mesquite is (depending on the severity of the inevitable nightmare traffic on I-20 and 635) about 30-40 minutes east of Fort Worth, which is where Pantera formed. Here's another sligntly unrelated fun fact: Jamie Foxx grew up in the city of Terrell, TX, which is about 15 minutes West from where I live. Texas is rad. Unreasonably fuckin' huge, but rad all the same.
Forever and ever I will defend swimming lvl1 and the aqualang aug. The skill is useful right from the getgo, and there are surprisingly good water sections throughout the game.
I didn't think DX1 was terribly complicated. It was quite overwhelming at first with its UI but then you figure it all out soon enough. . Complicated game? Tie Fighter, now that shit is hardcore.
Holy fuck. Between that game and X-Wing, you are not kidding. I haven't thought about those games in decades. Remember Descent? Remember how crazy that shit got from the start?
Farscryer0 Yeah Descent was my thang. Descent was actually really simple once you can wrap your head around the concept. Surprising how such a game can be played really well with just the keyboard alone. Tie Fighter had functions for virtually every key on the keyboard my goodness.
Paul Staker Yeah, the only modern game that came close to that level of complexity was Steel Battalion. That required a specialized controller that you had to sit into like a cockpit. Great for the immersion, bad for the wallet, and it would have been great had the game not been shit. Give it a few years and the Oculus Rift can bring back the glory days of flight sims and MechWarrior-esque games. I wanna use it and play the old Wing Commander games. More than that, I want Wing Commander to get a reboot. Weird how relevant its themes became in the last 10-12 years.
Farscryer0 Recently played Wing Commander 3. You'd get a headache if you stare at that resolution for 15 minutes with Oculous Rift lol. Lately there have been some space sims cropping up so I guess it's a good time to be you : )
I replayed the whole game in 2017 and after a short adjustment at the beginning, I stopped noticing the graphics because the story and gameplay are still top notch.
So, you're telling me that Ion Storm Dallas is Icarus, Ion Storm Austin is Daedalus, and together they make up Helios. I hope you people understand this reference.
Other characters would use the name you put in in emails and messages to you in game. I didn't realize this during my first few playthroughs though. I always facetiously made my name HEY ZEUS since the character's codename was J.C. Almost all of the messages people send to you start with "Hey, (first name of name you entered)." So to me, it looked like "Hey, HEY." I just thought it was some kind of weird future mannerism,acting really excited to talk to everyone.
Actually yes you can. Block her in the room with steel crates, and then scare one of the guards into fleeing out the locked front door. This takes a LOT of preparation, and you have to corral the guard using furniture, but it does work, and the game does take this possibility into account. Later when Hermann taunts you at the cathedral, his dialogue is different if Navarre is still alive. It's considerations like this that made the game great.
I admit I did love that. Also the little things made it great for me. I Loved the mechanical sound when you used your speed aug. I hope that someday it gets voice acted. I feel like I may have missed a bit of the plot because I was reading the cut scene conversation slowly so as to really understand what was going on only to have it cut to the next bit. That's really my only gripe.I kept thinking how damn good it felt to play a DX game again. Which makes me even more excited for Revision.
I got this game in a bundle with Human Revolution (though suspiciously not invisible war or any of the other spin-offs). I found it hilarious that i could run HR at triple digit framerates but couldn't get anything over 23FPS for the original, with colossal frame dips every time i had to look at a water texture. There's poor optimization and then there's optimization so cocking bad that you'd get similar performance on a brick with a bit of glass taped to it.
change the color settings from 16-bit (i think it was) to 32 bit (i think it was). I originally had the same problems but once I changed that it's ran perfectly fine my last 3 playthroughs.
***** I updated my graphics card drivers a few weeks ago, because EA wouldn't let me play the BF1 beta without the latest drivers for whatever reason, and since then deus ex, as well as the original bioshock and a handful of other older games all seem to be working MUCH better. the graphics drivers were reasonably up-to-date, and even the stock drivers on the card wouldn't be older than 2 or 3 years, so i'm not sure why a card would be having so much trouble with a title from 2000.
I still think that's bullshit. Drugs don't put specific thoughts into your head, and even if they did then an entire class of them giving people the specific thought is still silly. What's really happening is that while any depression patient has a very good chance of able to be cured with drugs, any given antidepressant only has at best a 50-50 chance of working for any given patient's specific chemistry. It's hit and miss, you just have to find the one (or combination of ones) that work for you. And many people that seek help do so because they're at the end of their rope and they can't take it anymore. It's help or suicide. So they just tried the help and it didn't help. Guess what happens next. No, it's not the drug doing it, it's the drug not doing anything that's doing it.
Veladus I forgot what it was you were arguing, but I just wanted to say that drugs probably don't change what you think so much as what you feel, the premise of the drug class of antidepressants and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI). They brighten the mood and the patient has more energy, however these drugs contain the warning of suicidal ideation *because* although after 2-3 weeks of treatment it will brighten their mood, their thoughts might still be towards suicide and they may very well act on it now that they have the energy.
lol no, suicide ideation is a very real side-effect. Even when I was literally suicidal, I wasn't thinking about my own death so graphically or obsessively until I was on these meds. I didn't even really WANT to do it, it was just that whenever I got anxious, dark-ass thoughts would come down hard. Especially when I was falling asleep.
I heard from my parents about a co-worker of theirs that took anti-depressants. Apparently it caused some very strange and mysterious dreams. Depressed people need new goals, inspiration and hope to be revived again. I can imagine it's a hit or miss depending on the person.
Having not played Deus Ex until only recently, I underestimated his line at the end. You can very literally get your arms and legs blown off and you can still somehow move; the game has locational damage
Well, it sort of is pretty fair to say it is the best PC game of all time. I mean the plot is solid & well thought through, the Music is...well...type in Deus Ex unatco on here 7 you'll be dancing to it forever, the Gameplay is amazing & one of the best I've seen, & you actually care about the characters in the game, so yeah, I CAN say Deus Ex is the best PC gaem of all time & get away with it.
Am I the only one who thinks Deus Ex Human Revolution gave just as much freedom? I mean, there isn't THAT many ways to beat each level in Deus Ex 1. Usually you'd count 4 ones that didn't require insane luck, and thats if you count gunning (or dragon toothing) the entire building like Rambo (or a jedi) as a solution. HR usually had 3 or 4 as well. HR also had a better soundtrack and had a significantly more convincing world. It ended in a more satisfying way by giving a choice that while the original was grey neutral, it actually made the decision hard in HR while in the original robot fusion is plain the most obvious choice ever made. Finally, HR actually had a difficulty curve that wasn't "Nightmarish hard in a bullshit way until you get the dragon tooth sword and one shot your way to victory against enemies you couldn't possibly feel remorse for killing". The only advantage Deus Ex 1 has over HR is that melee was a thing, and your character at least starts useless like an RPG should.
Are you taking the *PISS*??!! Human revolution COMES NOWHERE *NEAR* the depth as the original. You shouldn't rely on luck, because I've beat the game using only the crossbow ON MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH. HR has a better soundtrack?? Ok now you're just trolling. While it is good, there is NO WAY it can match to the original Deus Ex. Better ending. Of course, choosing an ending which says push one of 3 buttons to decide whoch diologe should speek over the SAME backdrop. While Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a great Deus Ex game, it could *NEVER* hope to match the complexity of Deus Ex.
Zelousmarineinspace Firstly, the backdrop did change. Secondly, Deus Ex 1 has about 1 good track, and the rest are awful. It isn't even a good soundtrack. Human Revolution has a god damn fantastic soundtrack, but it wouldn't even need to be that good to be better then Deus Ex 1.
Fun fact: there was a third game done by Ion Storm around the time of Deus Ex and Daikatana. While Warren Spector led Deus Ex's development, and John Romero was faffing about with Daikatana, one Tom Hall was orchestrating a weird but expressive adventure game by the name of Anachronox.
I'm truly glad these guys that made revolution and thief deadly shadows are doing thief again.....because it's simply their roots and anyone that has played truly amazing PC games get's a warm feeling in their belly when they think of Deus Ex or Thief.
Always upgrade Swimming at least 1-2 times in any given playthrough. Any level with water in it has secrets and shortcuts worth diving for. Especially Hong Kong. Not a first-priority skill, but a good dump stat. Environmental Resistance, on the other hand, is completely useless. Every level that throws a radioactive or poisonous room at you always gives you a hazmat suit and some health a room or two beforehand.
3:05 - 3:13 To be fair to that one example, you're trapped in a small arena with the Gonorath, and you can only escape by hurting it and having it break open the doors when it tires to flee.
hristaki99 I do have them, I'm a massive fan, I'm aware, but that certainly does not make it look like it came out two years ago unless you're living in 2010. The physics need a massive update and overall the engine is extremely out of date. it needs a fully fledged update
As someone who has been to both Austin and Dallas I can say that the game quality also reflects the quality of the city, at least the contemporary traffic (it has somewhat evened out over the past couple decades however in terribleness)
what i loved about Deus Ex was the way it wasn't so much 'open' but 'available', in that, chasing down this or that person lead you, in a linear fashion, to Paris, Hong Kong, etc etc. you travelled the world's great cities in this pre-Orwellian future and, thru info fed you at just the right moment, would change your target of choice as you begin to realise your little man in the game, this little nobody agent, is in fact being used as a tool to complete something you certainly only have a small percentage of the relevant facts and are only still alive because the technology within you is the only thing keeping you alive. it kinda reminded me of the 1960s espionage movies with the central character named Palmer, played by Michael Caine, a nobody as agents go & a criminal past, wit no influence or friends in high places but is known by at least one Chief of Intelligence as a dog that won't let go once he's got his teeth into something. except in Deus Ex it's cyberpunk, a genre i am a big fan of. but, as far as grfx and combat systems go, it wasn't in the same class as HL, and, from the beginning i noticed just how bad the grfx were BUT, the story had so much depth and intrigue that it was like a book you just couldn't put down and the quality of the grfx just did not matter. they were certainly nowhere near as important as the wonderful story i, as a gamer, was involved with. HL was a game that slowly drew me in. from the shuttle service , and being late for your job, watching all the activity of the odd ppl and 'things' that seemed to be going on about you, but you only an observer, as the credits faded in and out, it was a real shock when BOOM! you're in a room where something has gone wrong and ppl are dying all around and strange things are happening beyond all comprehension. from being this "press this or that button, gordon, come on now!" gofor, to suddenly dodging what look like large fat bodied desert spiders [like the balloon spiders you get in Iraq etc] and trying to help scientists as they plummet to their horrible death. HL and DE are both 10/10 games that are just different genres, in game terms, anyway. you just cannot compare them. it would be like comparing Mortal Combat to Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [well, the one about Darth Vader's apprentice and the use of the Dark Side, i forget its name]. or Thief:Dark Project to Call of Duty 1.
3:06 I can totally imagine this 'mechanic' in games, but the bosses will cause MORE trouble during the game (say creating ten minions in a corridor vs the pre-programmed 4) OR at the final boss of the game, all the 'skipped' bosses will appear and you'll have to fight them ALL AT ONCE (Or one after another without rest or healing)
So i just started playing this recently, and I encountered an unfortunate bug. I was trying a stealthy, no-kill run (which I usually completely fail at, but I made it through the first couple missions, so it was going way better than normal) and discovered that as far as NPC interactions are concerned, "unconscious" enemies are indistinguishable from "dead." There goes all motivation for even attempting to use the tranq dart.
I actually think Human Revolution was a strong follow up. Obviously it wasn't as vast or complex, but it did have the benefit of updated graphics and I think it managed to keep the spirit of the original
"It is like inventing an antidepressant that makes people believe there is free money inside their wrists" I laughed so hard my fucking face is about to melt.
If you can just skip the boss fight and silently runaway in the first game...then why the heck did they make it obligatory in Human Revolution it's annoying especially when you've been focusing on stealth !!
Thief, Half Life, System Shock 2, Deus Ex...good times in my early years of gaming. SS2 is overly hard at the beginning, I agree, but if you can get into the swing of things with the wrench, it blossoms into a great and scary game, at least until you leave the Von Braun.
Please play Deus Ex: Revision. It's a mod which remakes the game with better graphics, and better maps (I loved the original and was dragged into playing Revision, and have loved it throughout.) An awesome update with modern technology. It even adds to the complexity that you would love!
***** Revision is fairly frequently being patched and upgraded. I've seen one person play it on UA-cam, and it is vastly different to the experience I have played. The visual upgrade is minimal, but the gameplay upgrade, along with maps is much better.
***** New players I think. The mod received a lot of backlash from Deus Ex fans at release. Most of all, it completely ruined the chance of us getting a proper Deus Ex remaster by Eidos which pisses me off.
I recommend installing GMDX v8.0 mod, it fixes little bits, has HDTP and New Vision graphical upgrades and pieces and adds some new stuff (mantling, visible weapon mods, some aug rework etc.)
There will come a point where I will watch all of the ZP videos. I'll then re-watch most of them as each one could be rewatched three times and still be funny
+umbrela347 Its not deep... Its broken! You want depth in an RPG that isn't just some clunky mess? Then I suggest you play the original Fallout by Interplay.
Well Yahtzee, if you really wanna talk about pronouncing the word 'deus', the actual way is where the 'u' is pronounced as in 'put'. So it sounds like 'dayoos' not 'dayes'. You and the rest who pronounce it 'dayes' are not doing it right either. So I'm gonna stick with 'deuce'.
I only just noticed the antidepressant metaphor. It would work if a higher risk of suicide wasn't one of the really common side-effects of taking antidepressants.
I want to play a game where at any point in a boss fight you can run past the boss and Escape but any boss you did not defeat the first time you met them is going to be part of a Boss Rush at the end of the game.
I basically did that for an RPG maker game I put together. The player can skip an entire area if they want to explore it but the boss of that level ambushes in the final lair.
Deus Ex is truly one of my favorite games, even though I still was a kid when it came out. It's pretty non linear, because there's always a billion ways to solve each puzzle, and it has a lot of content, so even people like me who don't feel the obsessive need to load an old save every time they take a single stray bullet will take several hours to finish the game.
I'm going to guess you're under 30. Yes if you weren't alive or too young to remember I get it, 9/11 doesn't matter. Just like it's a big meh about Pearl Harbor.
Yes, I do. I'm sure hundreds of people who's relatives died during it sure do. Just because it's not talked about anymore doesn't mean people still aren't hurting from it. And even in a couple of decades, I bet it will still be considered a day of mourning. It was an act of mass murder, countless people died. True, we should work to move past it, but we shouldn't ever diminish the event because to do such would be lessening all of the lives lost.
Anthony Clay Again you have to remember there's people in their 20s now he were too young to know about 9/11. They're just not going to care like someone who lost someone or was old enough to understand what was happening. I'll never forget because I was buying a TV that morning and watching 100s of TVs constantly show that plane slamming into the building was surreal.
Darkstar im with you, Funny really. When after that the US/EU went into Iraq/Afganistan and killed a shit load more civilians that were killed in the Attack on the Twin Towers.
I wish more shooters would do the whole thing where if you're not skilled your crosshairs are much farther out and take longer to balance like you're actually aiming
same.2 attempts few years ago&I got frustrated at the first level. Started it again yday with the new NEWvision mod and now i'm hooked. You start off pretty underpowered...use the prod (aim at the neck-for instant knock down). The tranq cross bows are for isolated guards at a distance. I'v completed a few levels with 0kills&alerts without upgrading melee. Avoiding guards is important&adds tension instead of knocking everyone out with unlimited ammo HR tranq gun feels OP now-instant&0 suspicion
"Greatest PC Game of All Time"? No. LOL, no. That title belongs to Half-Life followed closely by Total Annihilation. I can understand your mistake but a mistake it is nonetheless. Please let us know when you've corrected your video. Thank you.
pyroneutral a game doesn't need to be "free form" or "open" to be good, as evidenced on Half-life, the Greatest PC Game of All Time. Half-Life delivers its narrative with excellent pacing that never seems jilted, strange or at all convoluted, unlike every deus ex game made. The problem with deus ex, the same problem many "open" games fall prey to is that they are too reliant on being "open". Game mechanics, graphics, art, sound design, music, level design, animation, etc. all suffer because this game has to be "open". It's ridiculous and merely praising a game because it's "open" and may offer more than one style of play (deus ex claims to but seriously punishes open combat styles of play) but sucks otherwise isn't at all realistic.
You heard that phrase wrong.@1:15"Popularly considered the greatest PC game of all time." HL1 was released in 1998 and didn't have far as much complexity as Deus Ex did, though it did have great depth and was/is considered with similar reverence popularly. I even feel so. I put them in the same pedestal Nice try though
***** I see what you did there (re: "on" and "in"). Please be aware some of us are replying via cell phones which fall prey to "predictive text". I appreciate the praise ("nice try"). It's not necessary, however; being correct is its own reward. Being "open" isn't immediately analogous to being "good" or "fun" or even "unique". I'm tired of people attempting to make this connection. Some "open" games (shooters) truly use the game mechanic to bolster many design facets of the game (Fallout 3, GTA IV, GTA V, Dishonored, etc.) but unfortunately many use it as an excuse to prop up a game that has too many problems otherwise. I'm tired of poor game mechanics and design laziness being excused because "hurrrr, it's 'open'". Too many modern games fall into this trap (Far Cry 3, new Thief, new deus ex, etc.). I'm tired of bountiful excuses being made for boring, repetitive games in the sake of promoting "open". Focus on the mechanics and basics first. Then, and ONLY then, think about making the game "open".
hikeskool Since you are clearly wearing your bias on your sleeve I'm going to enjoy bursting your little bubble. Speaking as someone who played Half-Life for the first time two years ago it has aged about as well as milk. There is nothing sacred about old games, they are just old. The Beatles is not the greatest rock band ever, and Half-Life isn't the best PC game ever. Were they pioneers that revolutionized the field in their day? Yes. Can they still be enjoyable in the right mindset? Yes. Have others come along and since done the same thing but better? Yes. Nostalgia goggles are a bitch I know; I am still convinced Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time is the best game ever, even though objectively I know I am wrong; but they are no excuse to be a twat.
And if there is one thing Rise of the Triads 2013 has shown, it's that you can update graphics and still stay faithful to the game's style and principles. Let's pray.
know the industrial and manpower resources part, I was stating that the War was Team effort and it took the combined might to defeat the Germans. That was my statement, You know that Bernard Montgomery was the one that got that foot hold in Africa that led to the invasion of Italy right?
I remember this one time in Hong Kong I got my legs broken (as you do) I crawled about the market place for approximately half an hour before I could find a health pack. eventually I found one on a boat in the canal, but if I had picked up that health pack earlier on however I would have been fucked. I had the regeneration augment but trough a series of unfortunate events (I SERIOUSLY fucked up) my bio energy was drained and I had no recharge disks (or what ever they are) SO REMEMBER KIDS, ALWAYS THINK AHEAD! (and spiders are bollocks)
I seem to be one of the five people on the planet who actually enjoyed Invisible War. Sure, it wasn't as complex as it's predecessor and the graphics were about on par with the PS2 port but it still had it's good points.
Tom Snider That makes me number 2 then. Deus Ex 1 was a 9.5/10 for me, Invisible war was probably a 8/10. Still have not played the new one yet but I just bought it on a cheap ass deal.
Tom Snider I wanted to enjoy it. Then the club owner asked the teenage looking girl he's never met or heard about to go kill a lawyer and not tell anyone about it, and I was being nagged by a girl I barely knew to join a crazy cult because the government has scientists watching the subjects with experimental augmentations.
Unfortunately (because I'd really love to be wrong on this one), the "wow" factor of complete movement freedom and a myriad approaches to each objective, combined with well-laid sidequests in a LINEAR game is still there. I see your point, though. Check the Mod DB's thread on the Nameless Mod to Deus Ex, it has some solid graphics improvement info in the tutorial section.
I always find it ironic that Ion Storm released both the best and worst first person PC games in the history of PC gaming.
The duality of man
Even crazier, they released them just a month apart.
Daikatana came out BROKEN, but if you use the fan patch, it's actually pretty good.
Deus Ex: Every time it is mentioned, someone reinstalls it again....
because in some places terabytes of storage cost more than 700$
In some places people own over 300 games.
Eamon Watson yes, and sometimes they don't even play it... dunno why.
With GMDX mod
I have it on my drive right now!
_"Welcome to the coalition J.C. I might as well start using coke."_ -Paul.
_"Yeah."_ -J.C.
Mom and dad would be proud
I counted 4 character models. Woman, big man, skinny man and little boy
7. Woman, fat woman, fat man, muscular man, skinny man, normal man, little boy. (Plus all of those non humans like Greasels and Spiderbots)
1mmortalGaming Oh yeah, fat man. Like the "What a shame" guy XD
There were fat women too.
The Continental Yeah, forgot about them.
Don't the Dentons have a model for themselves...?
It'll take the GEP Gun. I like a silent takedown.
Paul doesn't bitch at you for that. Prolly a good choise then.
Dirac Angestun Gesept.
***** Go in, and go in, and go in, and go in, like the US marshals and his 3 daughters, and , we loose the vaccine!
***** Get Pills against my orders!
Man. Occasionally that gun is silent and sometimes its insanely loud haha
"Paul! I... I... I thought you were a GEP gun."
Welcome to the Coalition, PROD! I might as well start using your codename.
How long haw you been locked in the bathroom?
I DO NOT MOVE OUT OF THE WAY
That's terror
I love how you showed Gordon Freeman running from Gornach, as much as I love Half Life, that boss is a real pain in the ass.
I remember when it first barreled out of its cave, I was like, "Ohhhhhhhhhh.......shit......RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN"
Leo Schue i was like ohhhhhhhhhh.......shit......it's a robot testicle spider
Boss? More like ammo depository.
"And all it takes is a few boxes and wall mines to be able to climb over a wall you're not supposed to and enter the negative zone."
As opposed to the first two thief games, where finding the right ledges to climb up onto can lead to the discovery that you've been trapped on a floating island the whole time.
Thief is far too easy to get of the maps in. Deus Ex I've finished literally 9 times and only managed to get out when I spent 20 minutes trying to.
Plot twist?
The twisted house in the first Thief though.
"your brain is a permanent consolation prize" thanks, thanks, thanks for giving me the best insult ever. I will use it with caution
What's weird is that on the 1st mission of Deus Ex if you look out to the background (being new york city) You'll see everything except the Twin Towers. They were left out of the game because the developers forget them. However when questioned about this Ion Storm said the towers weren't there because of a terrorist attack. That's right. Deus Ex predicted 9/11 a year before it happened.
Whoa, thanks for the tidbit!
because no one knew about that cough* cough*
But that's just a theory... A GAYMME THEWEY!
I heard it was due to technical limitations, rather than forgetfulness...
EchoesofOld Yes, that's what I heard too
My vision is augmented
You're derpin out there JC.
What a shame
Oh yeah yeah
I FIRST played Deus Ex 1 two years ago and I absolutely loved it. I ignored the obviously dated graphics (I don't have a problem with that) since I knew it was a 2000 game and I dived into this gem. What I most loved was the story and the numerous ways to complete it (There are a TON of posibilities).
Oh, and the soundtrack, it's really great and it helps a lot to create atmosphere.
AlbertoBC7 I don't think you can define a game that has you waiting for the target reticle to zoom in whilst the enemy 75% of the time deliberately misses every shot when you're practically standing right in front of them a gem... If anything that is completely ludicrous game design. I'd take System Shock 2 any day over Deus Ex, cause at least I can be sure that the enemies won't dance around like fools and would actually present me a challenge that isn't down to artificial difficulty due to the mechanics being mediocre and inconsistent! Half of the stuff, such as Pepper sprays, Gas grenades, Tranquilizer darts, stealth pistol (Practically one of the worst weapons in the game), normal pistol works fine from a distance even with the enemies being in the same room as you they're almost completely deaf and don't pay attention to what is going on above or below them... Robots are easy to kill as well, you can even get behind them when they're scanning the area or take them out with a rocket. In terms of choice however, if you choose to try and collect every item just be sure to choose the GEP gun (Yeah it takes up a lot of inventory space, however it allows you to virtually blow away turrets you can't find a password for to shut.) Hacking is nice, but who was the genius that made the dumb decision to have it timed when reading the emails? (Hey, here's some important information concerning the games plot, are you a fast reader cause if not then fuck you!) Now I can understand it being timed for the terminals, but emails that vary in size? Another part that shows the mechanics flaws is where you can save JC Denton's brother, Paul. (Yeah, again it is cool that you can set L.A.M's on the wall near to the door to take out the ambush getting ready to kill Paul.) However, this moment also completely falls on its face as the very moment Paul walks out of the door of his hotel room, he turns into The Terminator, completely impervious to damage, and whilst you sit around and wallow waiting for your aiming system to kick in he takes out most of the guards by moving around constantly, almost with perfect accuracy!? (It's almost as if the game wants to mock by saying: "Ha Ha, you can only stand in front of fire to get a perfect shot, you see even though PD is supposedly INJURED on behalf of the game narrative, he's still more competent at killing than you are...) It is like the developers are saying: "You've got all these lovely choices, however these monkey tuned mechanics are staying with you..."
AlbertoBC7 Now that's a thing I can agree on, its sound-track is great, however in terms of atmosphere I'd say the music has more personality than the atmosphere of the game. (Some of the back story is good, but you don't have many civilians referencing any of it... Nor is any of the news-papers actually dated and therefore makes it harder to work out the events of what happened before Bob Page took over.) Though the game recognises your accomplishments and deeds per-se, all it does is reference them once and they're never brought up again? (Take, for example the first Unatco guard you can kill after subduing the TERRORIST, yes Manderley say's: "it is impending investigation" and yet he doesn't go along with it?) Another, part like this occurs a bit later in the game when you finish the airfield mission in NYC. ("You can kill all the guards there except for Gunther before leaving to return to Unatco.) Yet, this time Manderley says nothing to the fact that you basically just took out 12 of his men... O.K, the game recognises you for killing AN, but again it is a reference, Alex mentions it once and Gunther mentions the same line twice... The problem with Deus Ex's narrative, is that it imposes on your choices! (It is point-less, wasting the soldiers after rescuing Paul at the Hotel as the moment you die you get taken to the MJ12 section of Unatco.) At moments, despite the game allowing you to PLAY HOW YOU WANT, they're plenty of times like this that are completely on rails.
Same here, but I didn't like it :/
+AlbertoBC7 gonna replay it now since the new deus ex trailer , this game is so brilliant.
GMDX mod is apparently fantastic.
What I liked about Deus Ex was that the characters in the game gave me some pretty solid arguments, as to why I should help them. My favorite part has to be speaking with Morpheus as he gives a pretty good overview of the history of human society, what ESPECIALLY fucks my mind is how he says "We will soon have our god, and we will create it with our own hands". Think about google! Where do you immediately seek answers when you need them? We pull out our glorious smartphones and start googling, we seek and store knowledge of ourselves on the internet, and Google is a gateway, the internet is everywhere, and soon we will be able to store our consciousness in an external nonphysical computer database which we already today know as "clouds".
We are literally creating god and heaven with our own hands. Soon the machines will be controlling our government, set with the main goals to preserve intelligent life and gather knowledge..
Unless we nuke ourselves before that...
+Kevin “FortuneCookieBeer” Traberg Oh my god it's like the ending of I Robot the book not the movie.
and now you have become the Messiah to my cult
What are you on and where can I get some?
That's cute and all, but you cannot store your consciousness onto a computer. Why? Because that's not how it works, the brain is an organ, that's like saying you can download your liver into your computer. And are you seriously comparing Google to a God? It is a collection of as much knowledge in the world (if it's actually uploaded to the internet that is) as any human knows, Google, and any other search engine isn't a God that can actually be able to create the Universe and every single piece of matter in it. And why the fuck would anyone let a machine decide how we humans are governed? We barely trust other humans with the job. This comment is naive beyond comprehension.
And I find your comment cynical beyond comprehension. Technological fallacies aside, I truly believe there will be a point where we can fully integrate our consciousness into machines. The OPs google comparison was just meant to point out we managed to achieve the idea of a global knowledge databse, which would be the first step towards creating a man-made god, not that we are that close to completion.
“With Half-Life, Thief, and System Shock 2, first-person games had been steadily raising the bar, and then a company called Ion Storm released Daikatana and made the bar tunnel right into the ground beyond the wit of spelunker. “
- Most underrated ZP quote
he's a machine
What I want to see is a zero punctuation of invisible war, just to hear yahtzee shred it to bits in style.
I keep hearing Invisible War sucked because it dumbed everything down and the last level was shit. And when I hear that I get the hankering to hear that precious jingle, "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee"
TARINunit9 I'm a huge fan of the series and I tought Invisible War was pretty good. It's just not AS GOOD as the first one, but it's still better than that Human Revolution garbage.
Invisible War had one major drawback: One type of ammo for all ranged weapons. This means when you used up ammo for one type of weapon you could only use melee weapons.
Which was quite frustrating at later levels when you encountered many heavily armed enemies that either exploded after dying or had almost no ammo upon dying.
The nanosword was also nowhere near as strong as in Deus Ex 1. Not a whole lot of biomods to choose from, but some were pretty interesting, especially the black market ones.
If you had electrostatic discharge for example, you could disable sensors and even bots with your sword without draining your bioenergy. So imo, not entirely a bad game.
@@DecepticonLeader The only thing that stops me from doing a third playthrough is thinking about the loading screens...
I for one loved Invisible War, because it provided the best possible ending for the entire series, the ascension of OMAR.
"Well, in broad terms, Jew sex traditionally occurs after a Rabbi has given his blessing, and often through a hole in a bed sheet. Another thing you may be wondering about is *DAY-UHS EX.*"
I was 9 when Deus Ex came out, I did indeed think it was pronounced like "Jew sex." This is one of my favorite ZP jokes. We should probably nominate Yahtzee for "priority list of people whose brains need to be scanned into a computer for posterity."
we were *based and learned Latin
"Mistah JC Denton. In da fresh."
Trust me, here in Queensland, swimming and poison resistance are pretty important. If you don't have them you will likely die a slow and painful death either from poison or exhaustion during swimming. If you haven't leveled up your poison resistance or swimming you just just blow your brains out and restart the game.
Poison resistance and aqualung are mutually exclusive augs. Deus Ex is not for Queensland.
I love the comparison of the Tranq gun. Actually accurate since anyone shot with one would run around screaming alerting his mates and pulling fire alarms before you pass out. Kind of like how enemies when severely wounded actually attempt to run away
You know, as frustrating as the tranq crossbow is, it's realistic. You don't get instantly get knocked out via tranquilizer, it takes time for the drug to affect you. Not sure if that was the devs intention though.
Oh wow, I had no idea Deus Ex, one of the best games of all time, happened to be made in Austin, Texas, the city I live in, a pretty nice city. Now it makes much more sense with it's rampant Illuminati references.
Now go watch "Waking Life", and look for familiar locations
Had a very similar revelatory experience, I live about 40 minutes east of and often find myself hanging out in Mesquite, TX, the same city OG Id Software made Doom and quake. Coincidentally Mesquite is (depending on the severity of the inevitable nightmare traffic on I-20 and 635) about 30-40 minutes east of Fort Worth, which is where Pantera formed. Here's another sligntly unrelated fun fact: Jamie Foxx grew up in the city of Terrell, TX, which is about 15 minutes West from where I live.
Texas is rad. Unreasonably fuckin' huge, but rad all the same.
8bitguy is, I think, from Austin
Arkane Austin is also from there, so Texas is full of stuff. There's a reason The state is awesome
"Welcome to the Coalition _PROD!_"
- Paul Denton
prod with the prod
Forever and ever I will defend swimming lvl1 and the aqualang aug. The skill is useful right from the getgo, and there are surprisingly good water sections throughout the game.
I didn't think DX1 was terribly complicated.
It was quite overwhelming at first with its UI but then you figure it all out soon enough.
.
Complicated game?
Tie Fighter, now that shit is hardcore.
Holy fuck. Between that game and X-Wing, you are not kidding. I haven't thought about those games in decades.
Remember Descent? Remember how crazy that shit got from the start?
Farscryer0 Yeah Descent was my thang.
Descent was actually really simple once you can wrap your head around the concept.
Surprising how such a game can be played really well with just the keyboard alone.
Tie Fighter had functions for virtually every key on the keyboard my goodness.
Paul Staker Yeah, the only modern game that came close to that level of complexity was Steel Battalion. That required a specialized controller that you had to sit into like a cockpit.
Great for the immersion, bad for the wallet, and it would have been great had the game not been shit. Give it a few years and the Oculus Rift can bring back the glory days of flight sims and MechWarrior-esque games.
I wanna use it and play the old Wing Commander games. More than that, I want Wing Commander to get a reboot. Weird how relevant its themes became in the last 10-12 years.
Farscryer0 Recently played Wing Commander 3. You'd get a headache if you stare at that resolution for 15 minutes with Oculous Rift lol.
Lately there have been some space sims cropping up so I guess it's a good time to be you : )
Paul Staker Did you see the Tie Fighter animation? This one guy made an anime style battle sequence based off the game.
Somehow there are games where i can't stand the graphics and ones where i don't care in the slightest and deus ex was the latter
That's because Deus Ex compensates for it in every other possible way, and does so swimmingly.
I actually miss old school graphics. When designers were limited to basic graphics they spent all the more time making a game worth playing.
I replayed the whole game in 2017 and after a short adjustment at the beginning, I stopped noticing the graphics because the story and gameplay are still top notch.
@@VicariousReality Except in the swimming, ironically.
+Michael Batashov Even in the Swimming, since the Ocean Lab is based heavily around the Skill, especially if a Player wants about 250 extra SP.
I just played through Deus Ex for the first time. Thanks to GMDX I was able to get through the whole thing without eye cancer, highly recommended mod.
OMG! JC, a BOMB!
A bomb!
...
What a shame.
A bomb's a bad choice for close range combat
A bomb.
I'd love to see a ZP on Invisible War!
There is one...
+Jason Neu no
Jason Neu I don't get it?
And the good bits of the Dallas shop banded together, said "Fuck this shitstorm", and went ahead and made Anachronox.
So, you're telling me that Ion Storm Dallas is Icarus, Ion Storm Austin is Daedalus, and together they make up Helios. I hope you people understand this reference.
daedalus? created from a crystilas, demon edge, and a recipe?
So, if John Romero ever goes back to Ion Storm he's gonna become the nanotechnological overlord of the human race?
Leonardo Santos yes
Understand, YEEEES.
I speak pi the way I want, beause I'm augmented
I thougt you were a GEP gun.
A GEP gun to the head is the most silent takedown.
Slithereenn A GEP gun to the head? What a rotten way to die.
I completely lost it at the "That's like inventing an anti-depressant that makes people think there's free money inside their wrists".
Other characters would use the name you put in in emails and messages to you in game. I didn't realize this during my first few playthroughs though. I always facetiously made my name HEY ZEUS since the character's codename was J.C. Almost all of the messages people send to you start with "Hey, (first name of name you entered)." So to me, it looked like "Hey, HEY." I just thought it was some kind of weird future mannerism,acting really excited to talk to everyone.
It's amazing that a game that came out 20 years ago, still has imo the best inventory management system compared to games that came out yesterday.
1:30
I would not like chocolate buttons in my shoes.
"That's like inventing an anti depressant that makes you think there's free money inside your wrist" -Yahtzee 2012
I also came back to watch this specifically for this quote :)
Yep, nice
Actually yes you can. Block her in the room with steel crates, and then scare one of the guards into fleeing out the locked front door. This takes a LOT of preparation, and you have to corral the guard using furniture, but it does work, and the game does take this possibility into account. Later when Hermann taunts you at the cathedral, his dialogue is different if Navarre is still alive. It's considerations like this that made the game great.
That Queensland joke though xD
I admit I did love that. Also the little things made it great for me. I Loved the mechanical sound when you used your speed aug. I hope that someday it gets voice acted. I feel like I may have missed a bit of the plot because I was reading the cut scene conversation slowly so as to really understand what was going on only to have it cut to the next bit. That's really my only gripe.I kept thinking how damn good it felt to play a DX game again. Which makes me even more excited for Revision.
Loved this game. Every.SINGLE. BIT.
*I wanted ORANGE*
- Gunther Herman
I got this game in a bundle with Human Revolution (though suspiciously not invisible war or any of the other spin-offs). I found it hilarious that i could run HR at triple digit framerates but couldn't get anything over 23FPS for the original, with colossal frame dips every time i had to look at a water texture.
There's poor optimization and then there's optimization so cocking bad that you'd get similar performance on a brick with a bit of glass taped to it.
change the color settings from 16-bit (i think it was) to 32 bit (i think it was). I originally had the same problems but once I changed that it's ran perfectly fine my last 3 playthroughs.
Tbh, it was optimized for computers from the 90s, not 2016
*****
yeah, but that's why directX is a thing.
Just run deus ex with openGL, instant fps boost
*****
I updated my graphics card drivers a few weeks ago, because EA wouldn't let me play the BF1 beta without the latest drivers for whatever reason, and since then deus ex, as well as the original bioshock and a handful of other older games all seem to be working MUCH better.
the graphics drivers were reasonably up-to-date, and even the stock drivers on the card wouldn't be older than 2 or 3 years, so i'm not sure why a card would be having so much trouble with a title from 2000.
Since I couldn't change JC Denton's codename i made his real name that he was using the codename to hide "CJ Denton"
I get that its a joke but most antidepressants do carry a risk of suicidal ideation though.
I still think that's bullshit. Drugs don't put specific thoughts into your head, and even if they did then an entire class of them giving people the specific thought is still silly. What's really happening is that while any depression patient has a very good chance of able to be cured with drugs, any given antidepressant only has at best a 50-50 chance of working for any given patient's specific chemistry. It's hit and miss, you just have to find the one (or combination of ones) that work for you. And many people that seek help do so because they're at the end of their rope and they can't take it anymore. It's help or suicide. So they just tried the help and it didn't help. Guess what happens next. No, it's not the drug doing it, it's the drug not doing anything that's doing it.
Veladus
I forgot what it was you were arguing, but I just wanted to say that drugs probably don't change what you think so much as what you feel, the premise of the drug class of antidepressants and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI). They brighten the mood and the patient has more energy, however these drugs contain the warning of suicidal ideation *because* although after 2-3 weeks of treatment it will brighten their mood, their thoughts might still be towards suicide and they may very well act on it now that they have the energy.
lol no, suicide ideation is a very real side-effect. Even when I was literally suicidal, I wasn't thinking about my own death so graphically or obsessively until I was on these meds. I didn't even really WANT to do it, it was just that whenever I got anxious, dark-ass thoughts would come down hard. Especially when I was falling asleep.
I heard from my parents about a co-worker of theirs that took anti-depressants. Apparently it caused some very strange and mysterious dreams.
Depressed people need new goals, inspiration and hope to be revived again. I can imagine it's a hit or miss depending on the person.
Having not played Deus Ex until only recently, I underestimated his line at the end. You can very literally get your arms and legs blown off and you can still somehow move; the game has locational damage
Well, it sort of is pretty fair to say it is the best PC game of all time. I mean the plot is solid & well thought through, the Music is...well...type in Deus Ex unatco on here 7 you'll be dancing to it forever, the Gameplay is amazing & one of the best I've seen, & you actually care about the characters in the game, so yeah, I CAN say Deus Ex is the best PC gaem of all time & get away with it.
Oh yeah, I fogot to mention mods as well (not that many people mod Deus Ex: everyone is probabully out modding DooM)
No worries
Am I the only one who thinks Deus Ex Human Revolution gave just as much freedom? I mean, there isn't THAT many ways to beat each level in Deus Ex 1. Usually you'd count 4 ones that didn't require insane luck, and thats if you count gunning (or dragon toothing) the entire building like Rambo (or a jedi) as a solution. HR usually had 3 or 4 as well. HR also had a better soundtrack and had a significantly more convincing world. It ended in a more satisfying way by giving a choice that while the original was grey neutral, it actually made the decision hard in HR while in the original robot fusion is plain the most obvious choice ever made. Finally, HR actually had a difficulty curve that wasn't "Nightmarish hard in a bullshit way until you get the dragon tooth sword and one shot your way to victory against enemies you couldn't possibly feel remorse for killing".
The only advantage Deus Ex 1 has over HR is that melee was a thing, and your character at least starts useless like an RPG should.
Are you taking the *PISS*??!! Human revolution COMES NOWHERE *NEAR* the depth as the original. You shouldn't rely on luck, because I've beat the game using only the crossbow ON MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH. HR has a better soundtrack?? Ok now you're just trolling. While it is good, there is NO WAY it can match to the original Deus Ex.
Better ending. Of course, choosing an ending which says push one of 3 buttons to decide whoch diologe should speek over the SAME backdrop.
While Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a great Deus Ex game, it could *NEVER* hope to match the complexity of Deus Ex.
Zelousmarineinspace Firstly, the backdrop did change.
Secondly, Deus Ex 1 has about 1 good track, and the rest are awful. It isn't even a good soundtrack. Human Revolution has a god damn fantastic soundtrack, but it wouldn't even need to be that good to be better then Deus Ex 1.
Fun fact: there was a third game done by Ion Storm around the time of Deus Ex and Daikatana. While Warren Spector led Deus Ex's development, and John Romero was faffing about with Daikatana, one Tom Hall was orchestrating a weird but expressive adventure game by the name of Anachronox.
It's so abandonware that it barely appears on abandonware sites
@@BoostedMonkey05 Ooh! An ancient artifact.
I'm truly glad these guys that made revolution and thief deadly shadows are doing thief again.....because it's simply their roots and anyone that has played truly amazing PC games get's a warm feeling in their belly when they think of Deus Ex or Thief.
Or System Shock 2. Or even the original System Shock (CD version), for that matter.
I take it you have just recently suicided after what they did with Thief.
dragonheart967
Me? Nope.
Always upgrade Swimming at least 1-2 times in any given playthrough. Any level with water in it has secrets and shortcuts worth diving for. Especially Hong Kong. Not a first-priority skill, but a good dump stat.
Environmental Resistance, on the other hand, is completely useless. Every level that throws a radioactive or poisonous room at you always gives you a hazmat suit and some health a room or two beforehand.
My favorite game of all time :)
3:05 - 3:13
To be fair to that one example, you're trapped in a small arena with the Gonorath, and you can only escape by hurting it and having it break open the doors when it tires to flee.
We want a Deus Ex remake!
TheJayson8899 i want a re so fucking bad.
TheJayson8899 All you need is a DirectX10 renderer and HQ texture pack. Add these two and the game will look like it came out 2 years ago.
hristaki99 I do have them, I'm a massive fan, I'm aware, but that certainly does not make it look like it came out two years ago unless you're living in 2010. The physics need a massive update and overall the engine is extremely out of date. it needs a fully fledged update
***** Sorry, yes, I meant a remake, not an update. A fully fledged remake would be great and it makes a ton of sense as well.
As someone who has been to both Austin and Dallas I can say that the game quality also reflects the quality of the city, at least the contemporary traffic (it has somewhat evened out over the past couple decades however in terribleness)
PUT ON A TRENCHCOAT
AND FIGHT SOME CONSPIRACIES
GET EXPERIENCE
AND LEVEL UP ABILITIES
WILL YOU PICK RIFLES
OR COMPUTERS?
what i loved about Deus Ex was the way it wasn't so much 'open' but 'available', in that, chasing down this or that person lead you, in a linear fashion, to Paris, Hong Kong, etc etc. you travelled the world's great cities in this pre-Orwellian future and, thru info fed you at just the right moment, would change your target of choice as you begin to realise your little man in the game, this little nobody agent, is in fact being used as a tool to complete something you certainly only have a small percentage of the relevant facts and are only still alive because the technology within you is the only thing keeping you alive.
it kinda reminded me of the 1960s espionage movies with the central character named Palmer, played by Michael Caine, a nobody as agents go & a criminal past, wit no influence or friends in high places but is known by at least one Chief of Intelligence as a dog that won't let go once he's got his teeth into something. except in Deus Ex it's cyberpunk, a genre i am a big fan of.
but, as far as grfx and combat systems go, it wasn't in the same class as HL, and, from the beginning i noticed just how bad the grfx were BUT, the story had so much depth and intrigue that it was like a book you just couldn't put down and the quality of the grfx just did not matter. they were certainly nowhere near as important as the wonderful story i, as a gamer, was involved with.
HL was a game that slowly drew me in. from the shuttle service , and being late for your job, watching all the activity of the odd ppl and 'things' that seemed to be going on about you, but you only an observer, as the credits faded in and out, it was a real shock when BOOM! you're in a room where something has gone wrong and ppl are dying all around and strange things are happening beyond all comprehension. from being this "press this or that button, gordon, come on now!" gofor, to suddenly dodging what look like large fat bodied desert spiders [like the balloon spiders you get in Iraq etc] and trying to help scientists as they plummet to their horrible death.
HL and DE are both 10/10 games that are just different genres, in game terms, anyway. you just cannot compare them. it would be like comparing Mortal Combat to Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [well, the one about Darth Vader's apprentice and the use of the Dark Side, i forget its name]. or Thief:Dark Project to Call of Duty 1.
Im very much in a committed relationship with this game.
3:06 I can totally imagine this 'mechanic' in games, but the bosses will cause MORE trouble during the game (say creating ten minions in a corridor vs the pre-programmed 4) OR at the final boss of the game, all the 'skipped' bosses will appear and you'll have to fight them ALL AT ONCE (Or one after another without rest or healing)
I vanted ORANGE.
So i just started playing this recently, and I encountered an unfortunate bug.
I was trying a stealthy, no-kill run (which I usually completely fail at, but I made it through the first couple missions, so it was going way better than normal) and discovered that as far as NPC interactions are concerned, "unconscious" enemies are indistinguishable from "dead." There goes all motivation for even attempting to use the tranq dart.
Best boss ever... killed with the phrase: "Mcpootenmachine." I shit you not in this game. :P
It's "Laputan Machine"
A reference to the book Gulliver's Travels
Yeah, its is. My bad. But, you get the idea. :P
Zelnyair funny coincidence
Zelnyair Laputa, as a name, is actually older than Spanish.
Sure it does. But before it ever meant that, it was the name of a mythical floating island in the sky.
I play it all the way through about once a year. Still finding new shit to this day.
Deus Ex: A BOMB!
+DungeonHax What a shame.
I actually think Human Revolution was a strong follow up. Obviously it wasn't as vast or complex, but it did have the benefit of updated graphics and I think it managed to keep the spirit of the original
w000t QUEENSLAND shoutout
"It is like inventing an antidepressant that makes people believe there is free money inside their wrists" I laughed so hard my fucking face is about to melt.
If you can just skip the boss fight and silently runaway in the first game...then why the heck did they make it obligatory in Human Revolution it's annoying especially when you've been focusing on stealth !!
In the director's cut they added in ways to kill bosses by hacking and stealth if you rank in them enough
Cause the bosses got out sourced to a dev company who didn't know hack shit about good games.
not exactly old news, seriously research.
Before they released directors cut it made me to invest into that rocket barrage tech. Because it was pain in the ass.
Thief, Half Life, System Shock 2, Deus Ex...good times in my early years of gaming. SS2 is overly hard at the beginning, I agree, but if you can get into the swing of things with the wrench, it blossoms into a great and scary game, at least until you leave the Von Braun.
Please play Deus Ex: Revision. It's a mod which remakes the game with better graphics, and better maps (I loved the original and was dragged into playing Revision, and have loved it throughout.) An awesome update with modern technology. It even adds to the complexity that you would love!
Revision is atrocious and not even close to a remake.
***** Revision is fairly frequently being patched and upgraded. I've seen one person play it on UA-cam, and it is vastly different to the experience I have played.
The visual upgrade is minimal, but the gameplay upgrade, along with maps is much better.
***** New players I think. The mod received a lot of backlash from Deus Ex fans at release. Most of all, it completely ruined the chance of us getting a proper Deus Ex remaster by Eidos which pisses me off.
TWB If not better with graphical updates.
I recommend installing GMDX v8.0 mod, it fixes little bits, has HDTP and New Vision graphical upgrades and pieces and adds some new stuff (mantling, visible weapon mods, some aug rework etc.)
There will come a point where I will watch all of the ZP videos. I'll then re-watch most of them as each one could be rewatched three times and still be funny
Level pistol
Hit their head with tranquilizer.
Instant down.
Problem solved.
Yeah but it has to be at "Master" if you want to do that, which will cost about 4600 SP to get there.
Anyone else noticed the little "Oh my god JC a bomb!" sequence at the credits?
It does look like arse but it has a reason to, if it looked better then it wouldn't be so deep
Deus Ex looks great! Even without mods.
+umbrela347 Its not deep... Its broken! You want depth in an RPG that isn't just some clunky mess? Then I suggest you play the original Fallout by Interplay.
whilst watching your "Alpha Protocol" video you mentioned said game ...and here i found it
Well Yahtzee, if you really wanna talk about pronouncing the word 'deus', the actual way is where the 'u' is pronounced as in 'put'. So it sounds like 'dayoos' not 'dayes'. You and the rest who pronounce it 'dayes' are not doing it right either. So I'm gonna stick with 'deuce'.
Zero Punctuation more like Zero Pronounciation.
I only just noticed the antidepressant metaphor. It would work if a higher risk of suicide wasn't one of the really common side-effects of taking antidepressants.
Best game ever. Nuff said.
HA! You lose! No likes for you!
The chocolate in shoes... is actually a tradition in my culture.
Love the review c:
Whats Due Sex lol
jew sex
Sex with a shapeshifting cyborg blonde girl. Nearly as good as Deus Ex!
DrSaering That sounds fucking awesome
DrSaering Vacuum cleaner with a puffer fish on the end.
raulprima Very unsatisfying.
A history lesson and an awesome video. What more could you ask for?
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The Bosh TURN OFF THE DAMN CAMERA.
I want to play a game where at any point in a boss fight you can run past the boss and Escape but any boss you did not defeat the first time you met them is going to be part of a Boss Rush at the end of the game.
I basically did that for an RPG maker game I put together. The player can skip an entire area if they want to explore it but the boss of that level ambushes in the final lair.
Everytime you mention Deus Ex, someone reinstall it
Deus Ex is truly one of my favorite games, even though I still was a kid when it came out. It's pretty non linear, because there's always a billion ways to solve each puzzle, and it has a lot of content, so even people like me who don't feel the obsessive need to load an old save every time they take a single stray bullet will take several hours to finish the game.
Does anyone actually give a fuck about 9/11 anymore I know I don't ....
I'm going to guess you're under 30. Yes if you weren't alive or too young to remember I get it, 9/11 doesn't matter. Just like it's a big meh about Pearl Harbor.
Yes, I do. I'm sure hundreds of people who's relatives died during it sure do. Just because it's not talked about anymore doesn't mean people still aren't hurting from it. And even in a couple of decades, I bet it will still be considered a day of mourning. It was an act of mass murder, countless people died.
True, we should work to move past it, but we shouldn't ever diminish the event because to do such would be lessening all of the lives lost.
Anthony Clay Again you have to remember there's people in their 20s now he were too young to know about 9/11. They're just not going to care like someone who lost someone or was old enough to understand what was happening.
I'll never forget because I was buying a TV that morning and watching 100s of TVs constantly show that plane slamming into the building was surreal.
Darkstar im with you, Funny really. When after that the US/EU went into Iraq/Afganistan and killed a shit load more civilians that were killed in the Attack on the Twin Towers.
Rathelm MC Age shouldn't matter. I wasn't born when Pearl Harbor happened, but I don't say "Who cares? Only old people care about that."
I laughed at the final slide of the end card far harder than I should have.
i never asked for this...
and not one of you get the reference, huh?
kellen liame The Simpsons?
Couldn't be much farther from being right. Sat it again in a grizzled depressed voice
I get the reference.
It's Adam from the new one.
Finley Turner ding ding ding ding ding ding! i raise a glass of my finest wine to you sir!
I wish more shooters would do the whole thing where if you're not skilled your crosshairs are much farther out and take longer to balance like you're actually aiming
That's more in line with RPG mechanics, though.
3 words Deus Ex Revision.
+Pylon Jumper 2002 2 more words: is shit. one more abbreviation: GMDX
+Pylon Jumper 2002 deus ex the mother and father
+Pylon Jumper 2002 I tried it and was... kinda disappointed.
Three words: Absolute fucking garbage
same.2 attempts few years ago&I got frustrated at the first level. Started it again yday with the new NEWvision mod and now i'm hooked.
You start off pretty underpowered...use the prod (aim at the neck-for instant knock down).
The tranq cross bows are for isolated guards at a distance.
I'v completed a few levels with 0kills&alerts without upgrading melee. Avoiding guards is important&adds tension instead of knocking everyone out with unlimited ammo
HR tranq gun feels OP now-instant&0 suspicion
System Shock 2 > Deus Ex
Personally, I lean the other way. Never got into SS2, yet I played hundreds of hours of Deus Ex.
I think the first sign that I was definitely going to like this game from square one was that it makes a Soylent Green reference.
"Greatest PC Game of All Time"? No. LOL, no. That title belongs to Half-Life followed closely by Total Annihilation.
I can understand your mistake but a mistake it is nonetheless.
Please let us know when you've corrected your video.
Thank you.
i like half life but it wasnt as free form as deus ex nor as open. in fact the first level of deus ex blows anything half life had to offer
pyroneutral a game doesn't need to be "free form" or "open" to be good, as evidenced on Half-life, the Greatest PC Game of All Time. Half-Life delivers its narrative with excellent pacing that never seems jilted, strange or at all convoluted, unlike every deus ex game made. The problem with deus ex, the same problem many "open" games fall prey to is that they are too reliant on being "open". Game mechanics, graphics, art, sound design, music, level design, animation, etc. all suffer because this game has to be "open". It's ridiculous and merely praising a game because it's "open" and may offer more than one style of play (deus ex claims to but seriously punishes open combat styles of play) but sucks otherwise isn't at all realistic.
You heard that phrase wrong.@1:15"Popularly considered the greatest PC game of all time." HL1 was released in 1998 and didn't have far as much complexity as Deus Ex did, though it did have great depth and was/is considered with similar reverence popularly. I even feel so. I put them in the same pedestal
Nice try though
***** I see what you did there (re: "on" and "in"). Please be aware some of us are replying via cell phones which fall prey to "predictive text".
I appreciate the praise ("nice try"). It's not necessary, however; being correct is its own reward.
Being "open" isn't immediately analogous to being "good" or "fun" or even "unique". I'm tired of people attempting to make this connection. Some "open" games (shooters) truly use the game mechanic to bolster many design facets of the game (Fallout 3, GTA IV, GTA V, Dishonored, etc.) but unfortunately many use it as an excuse to prop up a game that has too many problems otherwise. I'm tired of poor game mechanics and design laziness being excused because "hurrrr, it's 'open'". Too many modern games fall into this trap (Far Cry 3, new Thief, new deus ex, etc.).
I'm tired of bountiful excuses being made for boring, repetitive games in the sake of promoting "open". Focus on the mechanics and basics first. Then, and ONLY then, think about making the game "open".
hikeskool
Since you are clearly wearing your bias on your sleeve I'm going to enjoy bursting your little bubble.
Speaking as someone who played Half-Life for the first time two years ago it has aged about as well as milk.
There is nothing sacred about old games, they are just old. The Beatles is not the greatest rock band ever, and Half-Life isn't the best PC game ever. Were they pioneers that revolutionized the field in their day? Yes. Can they still be enjoyable in the right mindset? Yes. Have others come along and since done the same thing but better? Yes.
Nostalgia goggles are a bitch I know; I am still convinced Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time is the best game ever, even though objectively I know I am wrong; but they are no excuse to be a twat.
And if there is one thing Rise of the Triads 2013 has shown, it's that you can update graphics and still stay faithful to the game's style and principles.
Let's pray.
«Concrete texture artists union» - ROFL
know the industrial and manpower resources part, I was stating that the War was Team effort and it took the combined might to defeat the Germans. That was my statement, You know that Bernard Montgomery was the one that got that foot hold in Africa that led to the invasion of Italy right?
10 years ago, now I feel old
I remember this one time in Hong Kong I got my legs broken (as you do)
I crawled about the market place for approximately half an hour before I could find a health pack. eventually I found one on a boat in the canal, but if I had picked up that health pack earlier on however I would have been fucked. I had the regeneration augment but trough a series of unfortunate events (I SERIOUSLY fucked up) my bio energy was drained and I had no recharge disks (or what ever they are)
SO REMEMBER KIDS, ALWAYS THINK AHEAD! (and spiders are bollocks)
Enviromental Resistance skill rocks, Ballistic armor protects for 80-ish precent so add Ballistic Protection and you're invulnerable to bullets.
I seem to be one of the five people on the planet who actually enjoyed Invisible War. Sure, it wasn't as complex as it's predecessor and the graphics were about on par with the PS2 port but it still had it's good points.
Tom Snider That makes me number 2 then. Deus Ex 1 was a 9.5/10 for me, Invisible war was probably a 8/10. Still have not played the new one yet but I just bought it on a cheap ass deal.
Tom Snider I wanted to enjoy it. Then the club owner asked the teenage looking girl he's never met or heard about to go kill a lawyer and not tell anyone about it, and I was being nagged by a girl I barely knew to join a crazy cult because the government has scientists watching the subjects with experimental augmentations.
Tom Snider I liked it too! It was no where near as great but it was fun to play!
Unfortunately (because I'd really love to be wrong on this one), the "wow" factor of complete movement freedom and a myriad approaches to each objective, combined with well-laid sidequests in a LINEAR game is still there. I see your point, though. Check the Mod DB's thread on the Nameless Mod to Deus Ex, it has some solid graphics improvement info in the tutorial section.