You wanna snipe? Pick one of the guns that says “Sniper.” You wanna have a good time? Pick one of the ones that says “Infantry” or “Carbine.” You wanna have a new favorite gun and have the time of your life? Pick the one that says “Trench.”
I love small channels because they always have better discussions in the comments. Your channel deserves to grow so much more tho. Personally I only really like the infantry variants; just feels right in the ww1 setting. The lebel has an absolutely atrocious reload but it's solid rate of fire and best (in my opinion) iron sights in its class make it a blast to use.
I use the vetterli because in real life our family owns one. I think it was brought back from Europe from a distant relative. It's just cool to use something in the game you actually have.
I don’t play as scout that much but I’d say Mosin Nagant and Type 38 are really underrated in this list. Mosin has the same stats as Russian 1895, basically the 1895 marksman yet with higher fire rate. And it has a goddamn sick good looking skin holy shit. Type 38 should be a choice for aggressive recon as good as Martini, in some situations it’s even better.
you named all the good ones. . . I have 100 stars on the Arisaka, Ross and Vetterli infantry versions. The mosin, russian, m95 all are on the 50s and 60s service stars. cant snipe worth a damn with a scope tho lol
It has been tested frame by frame, the M1903 actually has a higher bullet velocity than the gewehr 98 past 100 meters. But I prefer the G98 because it has a crisp sound
It has less bullet drag but it's correct yea for extreme sniping (100+ meters) m1903 is better, however for hitting headshots or for playing around 80-100 meters g98 is better
I have no idea why, but I love the Carcano and Mosin and I would put them two tiers higher. Perhaps it's because I like their aesthetics and quality of animations, while the "assist counts as kill" probably inflates my k/d enough to make me think they are great and that I'm doing really good with them. I can't deny that the M95 is the better though. I used to use it a ton before the dlc rifles came out.
14:03 there is a way, at least on console not sure if it would be different on pc, to trick the Lebels reload so that you don’t have to double rack the bolt towards the end of the reload. You reload until the moment the hud reads 8 rounds, quick switch to your secondary and back, and it completely skips the bolt cycle.
Couldn't agree more with the analysis of the 1903. The experimental variant is the only saviour to its inclusion in the game. Having the 1917 be an almost an exact replica stats-wise. The quick swap you can do by changing weapons 'mid-infantry to pistol mode' makes the animation take way less time and with some of the nicest ironsights it can be a beast on smaller servers.
in my experience on console the Mosin is the only rifle that I find usable, every other rifle that I've tried has too much bullet spread whereas the Mosin is pinpoint accurate without zeroing changes
you lowkey deserve to get cancelled for putting the mark 3 above the ross. but also i agree the sniper rifles are all really similar in terms of performance as you said so i cant blame ur personal preference. good vid as always tho dood.
mate what you said in your intro is what I've always wanted to say. it really all depends on how you feel when using the particular weapon. Loving the vids!
I own a Gewehr 98 in real life. Just as good in game as it is irl. Super damn accurate, really reliable, smooth bolt action, and just overall amazing piece of Imperial German Engineering.
You should classified them by range. Close and medium range: label 1886 is a beast. ( then Smle Mkiii comes and Ross and the japanese Type 38 Arisaka ) Long range: M1903 all the way ( bullet velocity faster than the silent and gewehr 98 )
I’d argue that the Russian being lever action makes it a very good infantry gun for follow up shots. It’s also really good for low range play like 100m to 150m cause of it’s reload speed but I get why it is in c overall it’s just average.
You have MASSIVELY underrated the fast-firing rifles (m95, cacarno, & 1895 trench). Not all kills need to be headshots. It's very common that someone took 11 damage from a gas grenade and 90 damage to the upper torso is enough to kill. If not, rack the bolt and shoot again, and it will still have a competitive ttk against most guns except other one-shots and assault smgs. Plus, these rifles retain the ability to 1-shot non-moving & unaware targets, so you can still do your job as a sniper clearing machinegun nests.
I'm good with Vetterli-vitali. I love it but I know a lot don't like it. I make it work for me. I'm not great with a lot of the scout weapons at distance since it doesn't fill my playstyle. I want to be close. Gives me a chance to utilize flairs and my tripwires. My biggest strength is the use of my gadgets for assisting the team. Impact Grenade and either obrez or peacekeeper for sidearm. My choice for being really close is the sidearm. I don't push players with my rifle. The upper body and headshot potential to one shot kill with my sidearms make it more worthwhile to push with them. I never use scopes. Even if I run the 1903, I go with experimental.
I like Vetterly + Kolibri. Why? Because with Martini you will kill enemy in most cases. Yes, I played a lot with Martini + Kolibri but most Kolibri kills was "accidental". With Vetterly I can be sure that enemy will be like 5-20hp. I usually use it on maps like Vaux, Argonne, etc.
Yeeees. Finally a man of culture. I did my service star on kolibri mostly with vetterli-vitali as my primary. And it's 100% true that with it as prime kolibri actually feels like a decent secondary.
The Martini Henry really made me better at aiming as every shot counts and made me way more aggressive as I see a sniper aiming at me fire hide fire potentially flank if not go in a close position than fire getting a nice kill
I actually got a cool gewehr skin but I then realized that it wasn’t the regular gewehr it was the m.95 one and then I used it and I loved it because I can use it for more closer range and mid range with no problems
Honestly, after watching all four of the tier lists you did, I mostly agree with you. I do disagree on all but Medic though for my preferred weapons. I have 419 kills with the MP-19 Trench and only 23 kills with the SMG-08/18 period, so I would switch the two around because I struggle with the SMG but with the MP I do strongly with it. For Support I use the Benie Mercie, and I'm really good with is, so seeing you put it in D tier really rubs me the wrong way. It's a C tier minimum for me. And then Scout, the Gewehr M.95 is S tier! I hate the sweet spot mechanic so having none on the M.95 is such a dream, it's my best rifle with 208 kills on the infantry variant. I have a few other changes like move the Fedorov, Lewis Gun, and Mosin Nagant up to S, A, and B each but I'm fine for the most part on all four of the lists. All of them were great, all were entertaining to watch and see your perspectives on each of the weapons. Nice job on them.
as much as i love watching tier videos of guns i’ve always just picked only guns for the country i play and especially the gun that looks coolest to me lmao
Weirdly, the mosin is almost identical to the Russian 1895, the only difference is fire-rate, sights, and reloads. Also, how dare you put my two favourite scout rifles in D-tier!
And then there is me and the boys playing scout just to use a pistol carbine with a longer barrel because we suck at sniping but still dominating servers. (1903 experimental)
fun fact, the Lebel M.1886 gets its bullet "reloaded" way before the second cycle, and if you swap to your secondary and back to the rifle, you dont need to cycle
Am I the only Person who loves the Vetterli Vitali? It's one of the most satisfying scout weapons when you master it. Not a bad weapon at all. I'd say it's high C tier or lob B tier.
I usually switch between the Lebel, M95, Arisaka, and the 1917. I primarily use the Lebel and the M95 and have 50 service stars with each. The rest I have less than 20
i had my best game at 29 kill and had to leave mid of my best game, i was using the russian 1895, my personal favorite. Also the type 38 airisaka i think are great wirh their 10x zoom, i started playing this game like 4 days ago and im rank 30
I use it for close range, mid range and long distance.😂😂 I love that sniper just the quickness of the ads speed and being able to challenge, shotgunners, and every other class that's close range is a dream. I am a sucker for Designated marksman rifles. The feeling of a DMR on a sniper that can 1 shot is a dream
Damn and I just got really happy today because I unlocked the mosin nagant marksman and I'm shredding with it... Ngl it's funny how you have to use a better weapon (the G-98) to unlock it xD
Nah the vetterli is still great. The carcano seems pretty pointless on the surface but when I used it I literally couldn't miss, I don't know why, but I loved it, one of my faves. Okay cmon you either put the martini in s cuz it's the martini or you put it in like d cuz it's the martini. There's no in between and you know it.
In my opinion “pay to access guns”, well first off it should be illegal, but anyways it shouldn’t be considered in game lists, just for the fact not everyone can or will get them
Watching all your tier vids for my favourite game thank you for helping me stay competitive in 2022 I've not played this in two years but I remember why it's my favourite game
Mosin has a higher muzzle velocity than most other than the g98 and it shoots quicker than the g98 and it ss range is middle range I also prefer the the carcano to the m95 1 extra round and higher rof and you can cancel single loading of 1 round at a time and the marksman guns have no glint the level lower muzzle than the 1903 mosin and g98 but 8 rounds but slow reload times
I agree, man. Then, in order to try and balance it out, DICE decided to ramp up suppression, making shooting back in engagements nearly impossible with a Sniper. Overall, if I'm being honest, I don't really enjoy Sniping on BF1 that much anymore
I think battlefield hardline did it better; the one shot snipers only did so at pretty close range. Maybe making it only on infantry variants would have worked too but even then it would still probably feel a little overtuned
The Mosin is more comparable to the Russian 1895, same SS, same ROF, but the 1895 gets a Sniper variant and the Mosin a Marksman, which for me makes the 1895 better. Also i agree that the Mosins rechamber animation is annoying
I love the fact that BF1 is still a beloved and played 24/7 game....thanks for keeping it alive my Aussie friend...
"The Carcano isn't a one-shot headshot kill at all ranges"
Lee Harvey Oswald: hold my beer
3 shot kill
@@MarynaraSauc3_Yeah but the bullet to the head would have been lethal on it's own
@@MarynaraSauc3_you can near 6 shots in the recordings lol
You wanna snipe? Pick one of the guns that says “Sniper.”
You wanna have a good time? Pick one of the ones that says “Infantry” or “Carbine.”
You wanna have a new favorite gun and have the time of your life? Pick the one that says “Trench.”
What about the “marksman” variants?
@@cenni1887 something between infantry and sniper
@@cenni1887vomit
You want a semi auto? Use the experimental variant or switch classrs
fr the ross mk lll inf. changed my life forever
I love small channels because they always have better discussions in the comments. Your channel deserves to grow so much more tho.
Personally I only really like the infantry variants; just feels right in the ww1 setting. The lebel has an absolutely atrocious reload but it's solid rate of fire and best (in my opinion) iron sights in its class make it a blast to use.
Iron sights on gewehr m.95 are beautiful
yup, if you use scopes in bf1, you a bish
A bit ironic the 1917 has so bad sights in game cause irl they are by far the best iron sights of any weapon in ww1
Bri'ish moment indeed
@leviathan
Based on the P.14 .
I love the sights but I'm just insane
I use the vetterli because in real life our family owns one. I think it was brought back from Europe from a distant relative. It's just cool to use something in the game you actually have.
Slightly jelly
It's a good gun. Currently my new favorite scout weapon. I got 2 stars with it in one night. It's definitely better than D tier.
I don’t play as scout that much but I’d say Mosin Nagant and Type 38 are really underrated in this list.
Mosin has the same stats as Russian 1895, basically the 1895 marksman yet with higher fire rate. And it has a goddamn sick good looking skin holy shit.
Type 38 should be a choice for aggressive recon as good as Martini, in some situations it’s even better.
you named all the good ones. . . I have 100 stars on the Arisaka, Ross and Vetterli infantry versions. The mosin, russian, m95 all are on the 50s and 60s service stars. cant snipe worth a damn with a scope tho lol
Type 38 is amazing imo
@@Allwin-lz6yjyeah s-tier
It has been tested frame by frame, the M1903 actually has a higher bullet velocity than the gewehr 98 past 100 meters. But I prefer the G98 because it has a crisp sound
I always found the M1903 had a better recovery especially the sniper variant
It has less bullet drag but it's correct yea for extreme sniping (100+ meters) m1903 is better, however for hitting headshots or for playing around 80-100 meters g98 is better
I have no idea why, but I love the Carcano and Mosin and I would put them two tiers higher. Perhaps it's because I like their aesthetics and quality of animations, while the "assist counts as kill" probably inflates my k/d enough to make me think they are great and that I'm doing really good with them. I can't deny that the M95 is the better though. I used to use it a ton before the dlc rifles came out.
I like the 95 but i think carcano is better
I love the mosin 'cause the mosin has some of the best animations, I know it's not a real thing that benefit how well you play but it is still cool.
14:03 there is a way, at least on console not sure if it would be different on pc, to trick the Lebels reload so that you don’t have to double rack the bolt towards the end of the reload.
You reload until the moment the hud reads 8 rounds, quick switch to your secondary and back, and it completely skips the bolt cycle.
Huuuhhh, interesting... frame skipping works... imma have to give it a try
That's what I am doing
Couldn't agree more with the analysis of the 1903. The experimental variant is the only saviour to its inclusion in the game. Having the 1917 be an almost an exact replica stats-wise. The quick swap you can do by changing weapons 'mid-infantry to pistol mode' makes the animation take way less time and with some of the nicest ironsights it can be a beast on smaller servers.
My fav weapons are the vetterli and the Russian trench. You are completely right that sniper rifle rankings are entirely subjective
Cheers man, I was expecting to get cancelled while ranking this class, ngl HAHAHA
in my experience on console the Mosin is the only rifle that I find usable, every other rifle that I've tried has too much bullet spread whereas the Mosin is pinpoint accurate without zeroing changes
I remember trying the M.95 when I first got the game and I've loved it ever since. I'm not great with it, but it's just so fun to use!
yes
you lowkey deserve to get cancelled for putting the mark 3 above the ross. but also i agree the sniper rifles are all really similar in terms of performance as you said so i cant blame ur personal preference. good vid as always tho dood.
mate what you said in your intro is what I've always wanted to say. it really all depends on how you feel when using the particular weapon. Loving the vids!
Cheers man :)
label infantry is underrated , very accurate and powerful
i also like SMLE carbine ... but hate infantry variant for it's crappy iron sight
I own a Gewehr 98 in real life. Just as good in game as it is irl. Super damn accurate, really reliable, smooth bolt action, and just overall amazing piece of Imperial German Engineering.
You should classified them by range.
Close and medium range: label 1886 is a beast. ( then Smle Mkiii comes and Ross and the japanese Type 38 Arisaka )
Long range: M1903 all the way ( bullet velocity faster than the silent and gewehr 98 )
I’d argue that the Russian being lever action makes it a very good infantry gun for follow up shots. It’s also really good for low range play like 100m to 150m cause of it’s reload speed but I get why it is in c overall it’s just average.
You have MASSIVELY underrated the fast-firing rifles (m95, cacarno, & 1895 trench). Not all kills need to be headshots. It's very common that someone took 11 damage from a gas grenade and 90 damage to the upper torso is enough to kill. If not, rack the bolt and shoot again, and it will still have a competitive ttk against most guns except other one-shots and assault smgs. Plus, these rifles retain the ability to 1-shot non-moving & unaware targets, so you can still do your job as a sniper clearing machinegun nests.
I'm good with Vetterli-vitali. I love it but I know a lot don't like it. I make it work for me. I'm not great with a lot of the scout weapons at distance since it doesn't fill my playstyle. I want to be close. Gives me a chance to utilize flairs and my tripwires. My biggest strength is the use of my gadgets for assisting the team. Impact Grenade and either obrez or peacekeeper for sidearm. My choice for being really close is the sidearm. I don't push players with my rifle. The upper body and headshot potential to one shot kill with my sidearms make it more worthwhile to push with them. I never use scopes. Even if I run the 1903, I go with experimental.
I like Vetterly + Kolibri. Why? Because with Martini you will kill enemy in most cases. Yes, I played a lot with Martini + Kolibri but most Kolibri kills was "accidental". With Vetterly I can be sure that enemy will be like 5-20hp. I usually use it on maps like Vaux, Argonne, etc.
Yeeees. Finally a man of culture. I did my service star on kolibri mostly with vetterli-vitali as my primary. And it's 100% true that with it as prime kolibri actually feels like a decent secondary.
The Martini Henry really made me better at aiming as every shot counts and made me way more aggressive as I see a sniper aiming at me fire hide fire potentially flank if not go in a close position than fire getting a nice kill
I actually got a cool gewehr skin but I then realized that it wasn’t the regular gewehr it was the m.95 one and then I used it and I loved it because I can use it for more closer range and mid range with no problems
Honestly, after watching all four of the tier lists you did, I mostly agree with you. I do disagree on all but Medic though for my preferred weapons. I have 419 kills with the MP-19 Trench and only 23 kills with the SMG-08/18 period, so I would switch the two around because I struggle with the SMG but with the MP I do strongly with it. For Support I use the Benie Mercie, and I'm really good with is, so seeing you put it in D tier really rubs me the wrong way. It's a C tier minimum for me. And then Scout, the Gewehr M.95 is S tier! I hate the sweet spot mechanic so having none on the M.95 is such a dream, it's my best rifle with 208 kills on the infantry variant. I have a few other changes like move the Fedorov, Lewis Gun, and Mosin Nagant up to S, A, and B each but I'm fine for the most part on all four of the lists. All of them were great, all were entertaining to watch and see your perspectives on each of the weapons. Nice job on them.
as much as i love watching tier videos of guns i’ve always just picked only guns for the country i play and especially the gun that looks coolest to me lmao
the 1903 and 1917 have a bit less velocity but a better ballistic coefficient (bullet slows down less)
the Gevveher M.95 infantry never gets kill assists it gets assist count as kills GURANTEED EVERY TIME
Weirdly, the mosin is almost identical to the Russian 1895, the only difference is fire-rate, sights, and reloads. Also, how dare you put my two favourite scout rifles in D-tier!
And then there is me and the boys playing scout just to use a pistol carbine with a longer barrel because we suck at sniping but still dominating servers. (1903 experimental)
fun fact, the Lebel M.1886 gets its bullet "reloaded" way before the second cycle, and if you swap to your secondary and back to the rifle, you dont need to cycle
Dude, we need a vehicle and vehicle variants tier list.
lets go a new cole video, keep em coming
SMLE carbine is my bae. Love beating out scoped enemies with it
Am I the only Person who loves the Vetterli Vitali? It's one of the most satisfying scout weapons when you master it. Not a bad weapon at all. I'd say it's high C tier or lob B tier.
I usually switch between the Lebel, M95, Arisaka, and the 1917. I primarily use the Lebel and the M95 and have 50 service stars with each. The rest I have less than 20
Lebel feels weird to my hands but i love what it sounds like
i had my best game at 29 kill and had to leave mid of my best game, i was using the russian 1895, my personal favorite. Also the type 38 airisaka i think are great wirh their 10x zoom, i started playing this game like 4 days ago and im rank 30
i just downloaded the game, thx for video. Keep it up
Which variant? Infantry? Marksman?
Type 38 Arisaka Patrol is so fun because it’s all about close range sniping. With a scope❤
I use it for close range, mid range and long distance.😂😂 I love that sniper just the quickness of the ads speed and being able to challenge, shotgunners, and every other class that's close range is a dream. I am a sucker for Designated marksman rifles. The feeling of a DMR on a sniper that can 1 shot is a dream
Damn and I just got really happy today because I unlocked the mosin nagant marksman and I'm shredding with it... Ngl it's funny how you have to use a better weapon (the G-98) to unlock it xD
man you gotta put some hours into the arisaka, its a beast.
Facts. It's a 5 round martini henry
The Springfield and g98 do not have the same sweet spot..The m1903 has a sweet spot from 100-150 yards where the g98 I believe is 80-125yards
so the game data is not accurate?
Nah the vetterli is still great. The carcano seems pretty pointless on the surface but when I used it I literally couldn't miss, I don't know why, but I loved it, one of my faves. Okay cmon you either put the martini in s cuz it's the martini or you put it in like d cuz it's the martini. There's no in between and you know it.
In my opinion “pay to access guns”, well first off it should be illegal, but anyways it shouldn’t be considered in game lists, just for the fact not everyone can or will get them
To be honest i would like to use the Gewehr 98 marksman but that awful looking palm rest kills it for me so i go for the M1903 marksman lol
It's funny cause no matter how much I try, I can't enjoy the gewehr 98, I just love the Lebel model 1886
Watching all your tier vids for my favourite game thank you for helping me stay competitive in 2022 I've not played this in two years but I remember why it's my favourite game
Mosin has a higher muzzle velocity than most other than the g98 and it shoots quicker than the g98 and it ss range is middle range I also prefer the the carcano to the m95 1 extra round and higher rof and you can cancel single loading of 1 round at a time and the marksman guns have no glint the level lower muzzle than the 1903 mosin and g98 but 8 rounds but slow reload times
i just love the lebel. :)
infantry version*
Please do handgun tier list 2022
Currently scripting a bigger project around the Secondaries. Hopefully should be better then a Tier List
@@co1e. thanks man, keep it up
Vitali used to be very strong before the aim assist nerf
vetterli has a closer sweetspot than martini, and so does arisaka, smle and arisaka
Yes,I am one of those vettereli enjoyers
Secondary tier list next?
Maybe, I'm a bit "Tier Listed" out for now
I thought m1903 beats gewher 98 bc 98 has a higher drag coificent so its slower at longer ranges marginally
Am I the only person here who thinks the sweet spot was a very cheesy design decision that kind of hurt weapon balance?
I agree, man. Then, in order to try and balance it out, DICE decided to ramp up suppression, making shooting back in engagements nearly impossible with a Sniper. Overall, if I'm being honest, I don't really enjoy Sniping on BF1 that much anymore
I think battlefield hardline did it better; the one shot snipers only did so at pretty close range. Maybe making it only on infantry variants would have worked too but even then it would still probably feel a little overtuned
The Mosin is more comparable to the Russian 1895, same SS, same ROF, but the 1895 gets a Sniper variant and the Mosin a Marksman, which for me makes the 1895 better. Also i agree that the Mosins rechamber animation is annoying
Ross MKIII > SMLE MKIII because iron sights
Good video but it's not "for all intensive purposes" it's "for all intents and purposes"
Huh
>c tier Arisaka
I think you mean SSS tier
Where are you from along time
English?
@@mani5458 انت فين من زمان i translated my comment to arabic
If your asking where I'm from nationality wise, I'm from Australia
@@co1e. man i told we waiting your video from along time ok
Chad servers ban the 08/18
Sidearms next?
Gotta try and get the Peacekeeper first. That's my goal for this weekend 🤞
@@co1e. good luck
I'm gonna need it 😮💨
@@co1e. she’s a beauty
Russian next to Arisaka is hilarious. That's when I knew you didn't know anything about the game at all
Yeah the Arisaka is ass
Subbed. Great video m8
Without Watching the vid i would say that the mosin is the worst gun lets see if my tip is correct
It really is a shame that such an iconic weapon irl and in many other videogames, is so trash in Battlefield
this list is completely cooked
First
gRAT cONETENT !! wELL doME
1903 is ass
M95 is ass
Ass list
you're trippin. how are they bad
You use the term "low floor" wrong