Homemade Electric Buggy, Ep 7: Cooling System

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  • Homemade Electric Buggy, Ep 7: Cooling System
    In this video I install the cooling system for the electric motor in my homemade electric buggy. As some of you know, the battery is sized large enough to only require forced air cooling, but the motor requires liquid cooling (a glycol/water solution). To do that, I'm using an 8x12" radiator with a 12V, 7" fan from Derale Performance. The glycol solution will be circulated by a Flojet 12V general purpose pump with a flow rate up to 10 L/m. I made a reservoir/overflow container from 3" ABS pipe, an end cap for the bottom, a screw cap for the top and barbed fittings for connecting the heater hoses. I also incorporated a filter between the reservoir and pump to keep particulates out of the system. Links for all of the parts that I used can be found below with the exception of the ABS pipe and fittings and heater hoses. You can source those at a local home building supply store like Home Depot. Electricmotorsport.com also sells a complete kit with the pump, filter and radiator together to make things simple, but for a slightly higher price.
    Radiator:
    www.electricmo...
    Pump & filter:
    www.ebay.ca/it...
    Complete kit:
    www.electricmo...
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  • @JamesBiggar
    @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +11

    In this video I install the cooling system for the electric crosskart/buggy ME1616 motor. As some of you know, the battery is sized large enough for the motor to only require forced air cooling, but the motor requires liquid cooling (a glycol/water solution). To do that, I'm using an 8x12" radiator with a 12V, 7" fan from Derale Performance. The glycol solution will be circulated by a Flojet 12V general purpose pump with a flow rate up to 10 L/m. I made a reservoir/overflow container from 3" ABS pipe, an end cap for the bottom, a screw cap for the top and barbed fittings for connecting the heater hoses. I also incorporated a filter between the reservoir and pump to keep particulates out of the system. Links for all of the parts that I used can be found below with the exception of the ABS pipe and fittings and heater hoses. You can source those at a local home building supply store like Home Depot. Electricmotorsport.com also sells a complete kit with the pump, filter and radiator together to make things simple, but for a slightly higher price.
    Radiator:
    www.electricmotorsport.com/ev-parts/cooling/lck/radiator-with-1-2-inch-hose-barb-inlets-and-electric-fan.html
    Pump & filter:
    www.ebay.ca/itm/301739981256
    Complete kit:
    www.electricmotorsport.com/ev-parts/cooling/lck/liquid-cooling-kit-for-dlc-motors-and-controllers.html
    Website: www.resystech.com
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    • @Codyhumburg
      @Codyhumburg 2 роки тому

      That 1/8 aluminum that you are bending, is that 5052?

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      No sir.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +1

      3003, I believe. Same grade used for roofing, siding, fuel tanks, etc. Excellent formability with reasonably good corrosion resistance, not quite as good as 5052 but it's all gonna be painted anyway.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      Np.

    • @Codyhumburg
      @Codyhumburg 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar Thanks. I had mixed results with 6061. Actually, just bad. Separately, I have a similar build using a MOtenery motor and 8080IPS controller. That is a tricky controller with the sine wave sensor. Some people I see on UA-cam get persistent hall sensor errors (inja, aging wheels). Let me know if you run into troubles.

  • @waynetroxel1734
    @waynetroxel1734 2 роки тому +2

    I have really enjoyed following along on this build. Something to consider on the coolant tank mount, this may be overkill, but covering the edges of the aluminum where it contacts the tank with some split vacuum hose would prevent the aluminum from digging into the plastic over time. I learned this lesson the hard way.

  • @Ifitallfails
    @Ifitallfails 2 роки тому +7

    Thats going to be such a great vehicle, and you're going to have a blast riding it

  • @abderrahmaneaissa9914
    @abderrahmaneaissa9914 2 роки тому +4

    that's impressing iam so excited to see this crosskart working

  • @MiniLuv-1984
    @MiniLuv-1984 2 роки тому

    Its clear to me that you have thought through the issues, however what astounds me is the out of the box solutions you come up with. Very impressive James.

  • @DashART
    @DashART 2 роки тому +5

    cannot wait to see the numbers, i haven't seen a water cooled electric motor before.

    • @theecstatic9686
      @theecstatic9686 2 роки тому

      You have seen a Tesla, don't play dumb....

    • @DashART
      @DashART 2 роки тому +1

      @@theecstatic9686 dude, tesla is using oil for cooling.

  • @eduardom800
    @eduardom800 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. Biggar, you make it look simple. Nice!

  • @AkashChaudharymax
    @AkashChaudharymax 2 роки тому +3

    That metal bending rig is amazing.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks. Built it last summer. You can check out the video on my channel.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija 2 роки тому

    What an awesome looking vehicle is shaping up!

  •  2 роки тому

    Good share, Thank you for introducing You have good skill.

  • @anands6127
    @anands6127 2 роки тому

    Very neat work bro

  • @Maker1000
    @Maker1000 2 роки тому

    Amazing build !

  • @wellshare9603
    @wellshare9603 2 роки тому

    This is your hobby or business
    Love from India 🇮🇳 ♥

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +1

      Kind of both.

    • @WileHeCoyote
      @WileHeCoyote 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar That's how you know your doing things right!! Now if we could just get reliable cheap batteries, our creations could be very profitable!

  • @polarkerr
    @polarkerr 2 роки тому +1

    Very Neat, great video

  • @ahmetnazli6683
    @ahmetnazli6683 2 роки тому

    looking forward to the result...

  • @blackmafia8555
    @blackmafia8555 2 роки тому +2

    First like first view bhai short out do next video mai ♥️♥️♥️

  • @user-vi6kr2hk6c
    @user-vi6kr2hk6c 2 роки тому

    круто , без воды, все по делу нет трепа и все понятно !

  • @vandeirminiaturasautomotiv522
    @vandeirminiaturasautomotiv522 2 роки тому

    Amazing amazing amazing!

  • @Drdestruction_27
    @Drdestruction_27 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back 🔙✌️ sir

  • @grizzly9274
    @grizzly9274 2 роки тому

    You are as good as ever!)

  • @wilmincaraballo8718
    @wilmincaraballo8718 2 роки тому

    Excellent project, I would like to see this great machine in action, I hope to see the videos of the tests soon off-road. Ah, and a question, ¿how does the vibration of the entire chassis caused by the road imperfections affect the batteries?

  • @GingerPiston
    @GingerPiston 2 роки тому +1

    Looking good and can't wait to see you hooning around in the finished product. Wanted to ask about that vertical reservoir - if the only thing stopping it moving is that strap, isn't there a danger that the weight of fluid plus vibration will allow it to drop, and put pressure on the top valve as the strap presses against it?

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks. No. The hanger is mounted snuggly between the end caps - the reservoir can't move in any direction unless a tremendous load of some sort snaps that rugged bungee or bends the hanger. Vibration alone won't move it - a bungee that thick (1/2") can handle up to a 400 lb load. A 1/8" thick bungee can handle a 100 lb load. I did well just to get it hooked into place lol.

  • @ahmetyusufkaloglu2690
    @ahmetyusufkaloglu2690 2 роки тому

    looking forward to new videos

  • @suntzu6122
    @suntzu6122 11 місяців тому

    Have you ever run into issues with too much heat? To me this seems like the hardest part of the build, to make sure you dont run too hot.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  11 місяців тому +1

      Only with the esc, which was a bit undersized because it was the largest I could find to match with the motor at the time (larger esc's are now available, and liquid cooling options to go with them). The battery and motor never get above 45C. LFP perform a bit different than NCM in that regard. They're not as energy dense but they can usually handle a lot of power without risking overheating whereas with NCM it's usually the opposite - nearly twice as much cap but they can't output as much power, and combined with the nature of the chemistry itself, pushing NCM to its limits will risk overheating. That's why I got away with passive cooling for this battery, but might need forced air cooling for the current e-moto which uses NCM because they're going to push 60C+ under normal conditions, but can't exceed 70C otherwise they could get damaged or damage the PETG enclosure that I'm making for it. Next to LTO, LFP is the safest chemistry. Far less likely to overheat with normal operation, and far less likely to cause a fire if they get damaged or short internally. The trade off is more weight/wh.

    • @suntzu6122
      @suntzu6122 11 місяців тому +1

      @@JamesBiggar Thanks for the detailed reply!
      Have you considered making a parts list to sell on your website? Im definitely interested! Id love to hear your insights on different 'tiers' of this build with different motors / parts for different budgets like 'Medium / High / Ideal'.554tvt
      If you have a radiator for each battery pack (not even sure how big) would that be enough cooling to get away with NCM batteries? Maybe its not even worth the hassle if they are more likely to flame up.

  • @sergiovelazsques501
    @sergiovelazsques501 Рік тому

    Interesante y exente diseño se ve profecional cuanto es el costo por producirlo saludos desde mexicali

  • @zmanpianoman
    @zmanpianoman 2 роки тому

    Very cool how you let the heated brass make it's own threads in the pvc pipe. Saves some work tapping it. Did you run the fitting in again using silicon tape?

  • @thefreesoulchannel
    @thefreesoulchannel 2 роки тому

    Interesting !!!

  • @MadMotoInc
    @MadMotoInc 2 роки тому +1

    How am I just discovering this??

  • @vishuarya2260
    @vishuarya2260 2 роки тому

    I am like this project. 🎉

  • @utahnick
    @utahnick 2 роки тому

    Looks good 👍

  • @stillme_1
    @stillme_1 2 роки тому

    Hey James why dont you put some sort of fenders for the rear tires and a spoiler will be nice too🤗...otherwise such a great project

  • @VijayKB..
    @VijayKB.. 2 роки тому

    A machine making machines🙄🥴 Can’t wait to see it dusting on roads😤🤘🏻

  • @ephraimmichel3923
    @ephraimmichel3923 2 роки тому

    Wow .verry good bro.good job.

  • @Gorynych-V
    @Gorynych-V 2 роки тому

    классная работа!)))

  • @chris_1337
    @chris_1337 2 роки тому

    So good!

  • @ruslangabitov5202
    @ruslangabitov5202 2 роки тому

    Hello and thank for your video.
    I don't think that making thread in the plastic for brass fitting is a good idea for high temp liquid, because they have different thermal size-changing.
    Hope this will work.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +3

      The fluid won't be any hotter than the water coming out of your kitchen tap, according to science. If it is, the system isn't working properly and the motor will burn up. As a building contractor and journeyman, I have 100% confidence in this - it's no different than a home plumbing system with a myriad of pipes and fittings of all different types of materials, from PEX, copper, brass, or ABS pipes to quick connect fittings made from plastic, metal and rubber that slip over said plastic and metal pipes to form tight, reliable seals in hot or cold distribution lines.

  • @charliebeers2013
    @charliebeers2013 2 роки тому

    Well done. Are you building it off the cusp or did you make plans for the project? You are good at building this almost like you done it before. Haha! Great work!

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I created it in CAD first. Plans will be available after the test ride.

  • @anands6127
    @anands6127 2 роки тому

    Can we see it on road in next part?

  • @goojy
    @goojy 2 роки тому +1

    when you dune make a video to show how she do riding it ?

  • @Veveve1
    @Veveve1 2 роки тому

    so much steel on that buggy - arent you worried its too heavy?
    or is it a standard thing? just asking purely out of interest. love following this build

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +1

      Yep, because it's a buggy, not a passenger vehicle. Tube chassis is a necessity for safety. Nope, not worried at all. Curb weight is ~850lb, on par with ICE powered pro crosskarts and rally-karts (700-900lb). That's saying something given that it'll be hauling around an extra 180lb of battery.

    • @Veveve1
      @Veveve1 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar cool

  • @WileHeCoyote
    @WileHeCoyote 2 роки тому

    Beautiful!!! What are the Grey plastic pieces in the middle of 2 of the coolant lines? Thermostat valves?

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Just barbed unions to connect hoses together (some pieces weren't quite long enough for the job).

  • @filmweaver2013
    @filmweaver2013 2 роки тому

    Hey, noob question... why wouldn't you cut the pattern and then bend? You seem to bend first and then cut... is it because you are limited by ur bending method, or is there sth else?
    And, forgot to mention, ur series is amazing! Great inspiration

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Not every scenario needs a template - the steps you take to make the pattern could be used to make the actual piece instead. Bend it with extra material, then place it in position and mark where more material needs to be removed, cut then test the fit. We use this method when trimming and scribing in finish construction (carpentry). For example, I would cut a piece of window casing to a rough length (~1" longer than its expected total) and miter one end, then place it on the reveal mark on the window buildout with the miter lined up in the corner where it should be, and use a pencil to mark the exact position of the other miter on the opposite end - fool proof. Impossible to cut it too short unless a person cuts on the wrong side of their mark. Tape measures aren't the most precise tool for stuff like this.

    • @filmweaver2013
      @filmweaver2013 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar thank you, makes sense... :)

  • @blar2112
    @blar2112 2 роки тому

    What temperature do you expect the water to get?
    You migh need to consider a pressure relief valve.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +1

      It's an open system, a filtered vent tube will be located in the res cap. No pressure.

    • @blar2112
      @blar2112 2 роки тому

      ah, great.
      What are the expected temperatures of the water?

  • @foty8679
    @foty8679 2 роки тому

    Will it get headlights?

  • @maitreekittiwetrak4694
    @maitreekittiwetrak4694 2 роки тому

    I like it 😊

  • @Drezed01
    @Drezed01 2 роки тому

    Unless the ABS you used is listed as UV resistant, you may want to paint it.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      No need. Refer to the body panel video. It's located behind and under aluminum panels. The only light it will see is (somewhat) diffused indirect light through the mesh at the back of the kart on rare occasions.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      ...MAYBE, lol, it's the only circumstance I can imagine.

    • @Drezed01
      @Drezed01 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar Roger that. 🙂

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      It shouldn't be a problem regardless, really. Solid ABS pipe is actually an ideal choice for using outdoors - it's the same material that we use for plumbing roof vents (I'm a journeyman carpenter/contractor - plumbers don't like getting on roofs for some reason). It's used on the majority of residential and commercial roofs, in direct sunlight where I've seen roof surface temps climb as high as 80C. Code compliant. Cellular core ABS is the type that deteriorates due to UV exposure - it's not a good choice for outdoors.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому

      Cell core ABS pipe has a hard/smooth inner and outer ABS skin with an ABS foam interior. End cuts look like a sponge. It's lighter and easier to cut.

  • @ngarmy6602
    @ngarmy6602 2 роки тому

    👍👍👍❤❤💪💪💪

  • @kuehcheong6330
    @kuehcheong6330 2 роки тому

    左手不捉拿做不至

  • @beastgamerzxstunter9259
    @beastgamerzxstunter9259 2 роки тому

    Make an electric sports bike

  • @Lakisleon
    @Lakisleon 2 роки тому

    I don't trust that tank support. It might slide down when it's full of fluid.

    • @JamesBiggar
      @JamesBiggar  2 роки тому +4

      I do trust it, because I trust my judgement and foresight. As already mentioned, the hanger is mounted snuggly BETWEEN the end caps by a very strong 10"x1/2" thick bungee. A 1/2" bungee can support up to a 400 lb load. 12" of ABS pipe filled with antifreeze 'might' weigh ~10 lbs. I can barely stretch it enough with arm power to hook it in place. That reservoir isn't going anywhere.

    • @Lakisleon
      @Lakisleon 2 роки тому

      @@JamesBiggar Thanks for the response. Keep up the good work, great build!