Family in Ancient Greek • Ancient Greek in Action! ep9• Genitive; Ancient Greek Comprehensible Input

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  • @ScorpioMartianus
    @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +17

    Learn Ancient Greek through comprehensible input! By watching every video in this series in order, you should be able to understand everything after watching a video two or three times. In this way, you will build a strong foundation in Ancient Greek. Ancient Greek includes both Classical Attic Greek and Biblical Koine Greek.
    🐢 ANCIENT GREEK IN ACTION 🏛
    by Luke Amadeus Ranieri 🦂 Λούκιος ̣Θεόφιλος Ῥᾱνιήριος
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    🦁 LESSON NOTES
    In this lesson we learn vocabulary for family members, as well as the genitive case, used for possession.
    Subtitles are only placed where they are necessary for the desired level of comprehension, which is primarily *auditory*; nevertheless, if you are interested in seeing the transcript, it is available to my Patreon supporters here:
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    🗣 PRONUNCIATION NOTES
    ⬇️ Download the Ancient Greek Pronunciation Guide
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    🇬🇷 For Modern Greek speakers (see below for English*): Έλληνες φίλοι, σε αυτό το βίντεο δεν χρησιμοποιώ την παραδοσιακή σχολική προφορά της Αρχαίας Ελληνικής, εκείνη που χρησιμοποιείτε και γνωρίζετε στην Ελλάδα σήμερα. Αυτή η συμβατική προφορά ονομάζεται η ‘Λουκιανή Προφορά’. Είναι διαφορετική προφορά από αυτή που έχετε συνηθίσει. Η Λουκιανή Προφορά είναι μια (υποθετική) ιστορική αναδημιουργία του ήχου των Αρχαίων Ελλήνων κατά τη Ρωμαϊκή Αυτοκρατορία. Σας ευχαριστώ για την υπομονή και την κατανόησή σας. 🇬🇷 😊
    *Pronunciation notes: This video uses the Lucian Pronunciation of Ancient Greek, which is a reconstruction of the historical sound of Greek during the first centuries of the Roman Empire. This pronunciation system is explained in detail in my video on the Lucian Pronunciation here: ua-cam.com/video/Dt9z5Gvp3MM/v-deo.html
    And my research into Ancient Greek phonology is summarized in this public spreadsheet of mine, Ranieri's Greek Pronunciation Chronology: bit.ly/ranierigreekpronunciation
    The methology in determining this historical pronunciation, and the reasons for choosing it over other standards, is explained in the above linked Lucian Pronunciation video, as well as in my essay here: expert-experimenter-2558.ck.page/abae340f49 📄
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    00:00 Intro: Here is My Family
    00:58 Woman, Man, Child
    02:50 House & Family
    03:28 Father, Mother, Daughter, Son, Brother & Sister
    08:20 Homer's Family
    09:28 The Children & Parents
    16:37 Genitive Case (Possession)
    18:58 Small & Large
    21:17 Τὸ Παιδίον, Now, No Longer
    22:39 Finale

    • @nixter888
      @nixter888 2 роки тому

      We still say το Παιδί

  • @ΧρῆστοςΚωστελίδης-γ3φ

    Χαῖρε Λούκιε! Ὁ μὲν ἐμὸς πατὴρ ὁ Νικόλαός ἐστι. Ἡ δὲ ἐμὴ μήτηρ ἡ Θεοδώρα καὶ ἡ ἀδελφὴ ἡ Ἄννα. Ἔρρωσο!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +11

      Εὖ! Χάριν σοι οἶδα ὅτι εἶπες ἡμῖν τοὺς οἰκείους σου.

    • @thomasvulpius56
      @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому +7

      Χαῖρε, ὦ Χρῆστε. Ὁ μὲν πατήρ μου Πολύφημός ἐστιν, ἡ δὲ μήτηρ Χίμαιρα, τὼ δ᾽ ἀδελφώ ἐστον *Γώζιλλα ὁ ὑπερμεγέθης δράκων καὶ *Κόγγος ὁ βασιλεὺς ὁ πάμμεγας πίθηκος.

  • @leightondawson5447
    @leightondawson5447 3 роки тому +54

    I'm thoroughly convinced of the importance of comprehensible input, and content like this is sorely needed. Keep up the good work!

  • @altermellion6984
    @altermellion6984 Рік тому +9

    I found it touching that a family and a home share the same word. It gives it lot to ponder over in this day and age.

  • @magdi4714
    @magdi4714 3 роки тому +9

    I am from Greece 🇬🇷 and i learn ancient Greek in school, but i have never heard them!

  • @weepinghomonculus4887
    @weepinghomonculus4887 3 роки тому +23

    Well, that was adorable.

  • @apmoy70
    @apmoy70 3 роки тому +11

    Χαῖρε ὦ Λούκιε! Οἱ γονεῖς ἐμὼ, Ἰωάννης καὶ Αἰκατερίνά είσιν. Ἡ οἰκίᾱ ἡ ἐμὴ, πολυτεκνικὴ οὖν ἐστι. Ἐγώ μέν Ἀπόστολός εἰμι, ὁ πρωτότοκος καὶ πρεσβύτερος, ὁ δ' ἀδελφός μου ὁ Ἐμμανουήλ, ὁ ἔσχατός ἐστι. Ὀνομάζουσιν οὖν τὼ ἀδελφὰ νῷν, Ἑλένη καὶ Χριστίνη. Ἔρρωσο!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +7

      Χάριν σοι ἴσμεν, ὦ φίλε, ὅτι οὕτω καλὸν παράδειγμα ἔγραψας!

  • @Rogerio.Alexander
    @Rogerio.Alexander 2 місяці тому +1

    It was really beautiful seeing your family then and now!! Thanks!

  • @Rogerio.Alexander
    @Rogerio.Alexander 2 місяці тому +1

    Gratias ago tibi Magister Lucius!

  • @TeutonicEmperor1198
    @TeutonicEmperor1198 3 роки тому +17

    The Simpsons is an undercover show of Greek history! From the ancient poet Homer to modern day Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew! Maybe that's why the family is so disfunctional but still standing! LOL
    Calling your domestic cat "Λέων" is unethical! Maybe he was a little big for a cat but he was not big enough to be a lion! 🤣🤣

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 3 роки тому +6

    The family photos are so nice

  • @Rogerio.Alexander
    @Rogerio.Alexander 2 місяці тому +1

    watching again and again. Thanks for the content

  • @jb_1971
    @jb_1971 3 роки тому +14

    Always such a nice surprise to find one of these in your notifications!

  • @billowen9823
    @billowen9823 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank You Luke Outstanding Lesson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching, Bill! I intend to update and improve these a lot soon

    • @billowen9823
      @billowen9823 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ScorpioMartianus You Are Welcome Luke, We Are So Fortunate To Have You Teaching Us Greek, I Don’t Even Know What To Say!! You Are A Teacher Who Understands Students, But In Addition To That You Are A Prodigious Scholar!!!! Wow…Until I Found Your Videos I Was Worried I Would Never Understand Ancient Greek In A Significant Way!! Thank You And I Look Forward To Seeing All Of Your Videos!!!! Wow We Are Lucky!!!!!😃😃😃😃😃

  • @z120p
    @z120p 3 роки тому +5

    Θυγάτηρ (daughter) - I love this word. Another linguistic relic of Greek’s shared indo-European heritage, although sadly lost in the modern language.

    • @apmoy70
      @apmoy70 3 роки тому +5

      Not lost in dialects though, my grandmother who spoke the Thessalian regiolect, used θυγατέρα alot!

    • @z120p
      @z120p 3 роки тому +2

      @@apmoy70 really?! That’s so cool.

    • @MegaMayday16
      @MegaMayday16 3 роки тому

      In Farsi. Girl= Dokhtar

  • @Cyclonus2377
    @Cyclonus2377 3 роки тому +5

    So Ancient Greek has cases for nouns too, just like Russian and Ukrainian (and I assume Modern Greek). Another interesting vid! Thank you for sharing!

  • @manorueda1432
    @manorueda1432 3 роки тому +5

    I know that's not the point... but gotta love that music at the beginning! 😅

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      I also adore the music! It's so bubbly and inviting. I'm glad you like it!

    • @manorueda1432
      @manorueda1432 3 роки тому +1

      @@ScorpioMartianus yessss!

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 3 роки тому +1

    Χαίρετε! Ὁ μὲν πατὴρ μοῦ Βασίλειός ἐστιν, ἡ δὲ μήτηρ Ἑλένη κέκληται. Αὑτοῖς δ' εἰσὶν τρία παιδία. Εἷς μεν ἐγὼ, ἕτερος ὁ μέγας ἀδελφος μου, ὃς Πέτρος ὀνομάζεται, ὕστερον δὲ ὁ μικρὸς μου ἀδελφος, ὁ Χρήστος. Ἔρρωσθε!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому

      Χάριν σοι οἶδα ὅτι ἐξηγήσω ταῦτα!

  • @Contrapunctus1984
    @Contrapunctus1984 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the excellent work! I see the gap between 0 and Alexandros closing.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      Yes! Closing quickly, I hope, and also closing with Athenaze.

  • @cerberaodollam
    @cerberaodollam 3 роки тому +2

    Damn, all the PIE connections!!! * Dhughater and all that 😁❤️

  • @michelaperito6994
    @michelaperito6994 3 роки тому +3

    Dear Luke I am following your lessons -- so very lucky to have found your channel :) so sweet this one tho, very moving -- your parents and sister must be very proud of you!

  • @dorothy-2930
    @dorothy-2930 Рік тому

    Great stuff, Luke!

  • @rafaelcarvalho3928
    @rafaelcarvalho3928 3 роки тому +1

    Beatiful video! It made cry at the end!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much! 😃 I feel that way too when I see my family. 🥲 I’m very close to them, as you can imagine.

  • @thanosfila
    @thanosfila 3 роки тому +2

    The most surprising beautiful is the perfect pronunciation... I allready a fan of you. Great Great job. Χαῖρε, ὦ φίλε Λούκιε. Best regards from Hellas.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому

      Ευχαριστώ πολύ! Ὅτι καὶ σοί γε ἀρέσκει ἡ Λουκιᾱνὴ προφορά̄, τέρπομαι σφόδρα! I'm very glad to hear my reconstruction of Roman era Greek pronunciation is pleasant to a native Greek speaker. 😊 ♥️ 🇬🇷

    • @thanosfila
      @thanosfila 3 роки тому +2

      @@ScorpioMartianus It sound a bit strange to us Greeks, because we are use to the modern Greek pronunciation. I certainly agree with the logic of the Lycian theory. But most of all I am fascinated with you...I believe that is very difficult for an English speaker to use sounds of Greek language like ρ,θ,ψ etc and you nailed them all. Great great work with deep understanding, i am great full to watch your lessons online. Thank you and keep up

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      Ευχαριστώ ☺️

  • @fractal_gate
    @fractal_gate Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing your family and this wonderful video. By the way, in Chinese 家, the word for house, is also the same as the word for family. I wonder how many languages are like this?

  • @РадкоАлександров
    @РадкоАлександров 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting and useful video! Thank you for your work! :). I have one question if it possible to ask you: what word the ancient Greeks used for "grandmother "? Thank you! :)

  • @pavlosstaios6954
    @pavlosstaios6954 3 роки тому +8

    Λουκίδιον! That`s cute!

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 3 роки тому +1

    Hey there! Sorry if it's a bit unrelated, but I figured if there's a good person to ask this, it would be you Luke. I've recently come across an issue in my Latin course. You see, up until now I've had no problem learning new inflections and types and the syntax because I love learning languages and especially Ancient Greek and Latin. So, once I learnt new features, I'd immediately do many excercises from my school book and also read the texts a couple of times. But while the perfect stems of 1st, 2nd and 4th group verbs are generally regular, having either a v or an u after the main verb stem (or in some cases of the second group, an s, but I guess I'll memorize those with time), the 3rd group is completely daunting! There are others like lego who make their final vowel long, lēgi, others who make the world initial vowel long, like ago which becomes ēgi, then dico which becomes dixi, adding an s, and finally ones that redouble the initial syllable, like curro which becomes cucurri. Maybe my grammar book doesn't explain this well, but it just says they're all one of these and it's irregular. I don't like unexplained and generalized irregularities. If there's some small tip or at least has an explanation of how that came to be or some patter on which of these to expect, I'd be really happy if you tell me. Thanks!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому

      Right! This is how I dealt with it ua-cam.com/video/_yflqUWKVVc/v-deo.html

  • @sigram2
    @sigram2 Рік тому

    I was always taught to pronounce /g/ in Ancient Greek as a velar stop, you pronounce it as a glottal fricative, which I've heard described as a change that occurred during byzantine period, similarly to b -> v ... other than that, which may be a confusion on my part, your Greek sounds lovely!

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  Рік тому +1

      Hi, thanks for the comment. Actually that change occurred very early in some parts of the Greek speaking world, which is why it’s in this pronunciation system that I developed to correspond to early Roman Empire. See more here: ua-cam.com/video/5lcIcYFveII/v-deo.html

  • @pasqualetortorella4559
    @pasqualetortorella4559 3 роки тому +3

    Χαῖρε!

  • @epiphanio
    @epiphanio 3 роки тому +1

    Υπέροχος 🤗🤗🤗

  • @marcmalki734
    @marcmalki734 3 роки тому +2

    So cute o mikros loukios me mqllia and his oikia!

  • @YiannissB.
    @YiannissB. 3 роки тому +3

    Just because of 0:14 the title should be “Seductive Roman Chad makes a move”

  • @pantelispanopoulos
    @pantelispanopoulos 2 роки тому

    At 12:24 I think you should have used the dual number with the noun τέκνον and it should have been "δύοιν τέκνοιν" But why use the dual number when you do not use a classical ancient Greek accent? (but a rather later Koine Greek accent which did not use the dual number anymore). I so like your videos, though! They put a nice voice/sound to my school year books!!!

  • @luomoxx9662
    @luomoxx9662 3 роки тому +1

    Have you ever thought of contributing to the Duolingo Latin program? They could really use a ton of help.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +4

      They really could.
      Being an experienced polyglot, I don’t find Duolingo to be at all useful. If people enjoy, that’s great. But unless they are able to compensate me, I won’t have time to help them, I fear.

  • @marceloneves7738
    @marceloneves7738 3 роки тому +2

    Muito bom!!!

  • @isobellabrett
    @isobellabrett 3 роки тому +1

    Full points for Pretzel

  • @CesarArturoCastaneda
    @CesarArturoCastaneda 5 місяців тому +1

    Ὁ πατερ μοῦ εστιν ὁ Αρτοριός και ἡ μητερ μοῦ εστιν ἡ Βλανκα. Ὁ αδελφός μοῦ εστιν ὁ Διεγός. Ὁ υἱοί μοῦ εισιν Εφρεμ και Φαβιαν.

  • @plakette26
    @plakette26 3 роки тому +3

    I first read the description and expected the Homer of Illias yhad to laugh so hard as he turned out yellow 😂😂😂
    Brilliant video with your lovely family 😍
    Then 'gonads' refer to parents! And is there a similar sounding word in any other language for 'teknon'? 🤔

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      Haha yes! What family is better known or more universal?
      Architecture is etymologically connected with τέκνον

    • @plakette26
      @plakette26 3 роки тому

      @@ScorpioMartianus you're so right with the family of Homer 😁👏
      Oh wow, I never had thought of architecture 🤯 so cool, thank you!!

    • @pierreabbat6157
      @pierreabbat6157 3 роки тому

      @@ScorpioMartianus Isn't that τέκτων? In Greek, money gives birth; τόκος means both birth and interest. "Tocopherol" is from that root.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      As I said, they are etymologically connected en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/tetḱ-

  • @Rogerio.Alexander
    @Rogerio.Alexander 2 місяці тому +1

    Pater mu estin o (Charles), meter mu estin n (Thereza), adelphoi moi eisin o Brunos, o (Luigi) kai n (Lorraine)

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 3 роки тому +1

    I see here that sometimes you put the genetive possesive words before and sometimes after the noun that is possessing them. Are both of these equally common?

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +2

      Great question! The form ὁ τοῦ Ῥωβέρτου υἱός is more common, or at least more Attic in style. But both are possible. They are called bound and unbound forms. Essentially they're all equivalent, but can emphasize more the possessor or the thing possessed.

  • @juanluisgomar7640
    @juanluisgomar7640 3 роки тому

    χαιρε, ω λουκά. Επι την 13:11, Ἑγᾡ ουκ συνιημι δια τι "οί ΜΗΝ γονεῖς εισι...", ουχί "οί γονεῖς εισι...". Τι έστι "ΜΗΝ"?

  • @lethodeestagira8570
    @lethodeestagira8570 3 роки тому +2

    Do you have any book to recomennt , for learning

  • @pierreabbat6157
    @pierreabbat6157 3 роки тому

    Is δυοιν τεκνων proper, or should it be δυων τεκνων or δυοιν τεκνοιν? Euclid wrote δυσιν ορθιαις ισαι εισιν.
    Ο Βαρθολομαιος και η Πρισκιλλα αστρονομοι ησαν και γονεις μιας θυγατρος και ενος υιου.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +1

      The dual forms are used with non-dual forms rather a lot in Attic, and naturally δύο is inherently dual, unlike in Latin, so the regularized δυῶν form absolutely exists, but also δυοῖν. Here is an example of Plato mixing δυοῖν...ποδῶν
      stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/Iris/demo/browser.jsp#doc=tlg&aid=0059&wid=024&st=31861&et=31868&hl=%7B%22hl%22%3A%5B%7B%22start%22%3A31861%2C%22end%22%3A31868%2C%22color%22%3A%22HI1%22%2C%22backToStartSnippet%22%3Afalse%2C%22forwardToEndSnippet%22%3Afalse%2C%22outOfSnippet%22%3Afalse%7D%5D%7D&type=browser

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому +1

    Τὸ "ὁ πατὴρ τοῦ Λουκίου" τί διαφέρει τοῦ "ὁ τοῦ Λουκίου πατήρ"; Τὸ μὲν οὖν "ὁ πατὴρ τοῦ Λουκίου" τονίζει τὸ "ὁ πατήρ" (καὶ οὐχ ὁ θεῖος), τὸ δ᾿ "ὁ τοῦ Λουκίου πατήρ" τὸ "τοῦ Λουκίου" (καὶ οὐχ ὁ Πατρόκλου πατήρ).

  • @jimatreidēs
    @jimatreidēs 3 роки тому

    Nice!!
    One question, though: why did you decide to use αίλουρος for "cat" instead of γαλή?
    In modern Greek, αίλουρος usually means "feline".

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +2

      It’s the Ancient Greek word for cat.

    • @jimatreidēs
      @jimatreidēs 3 роки тому

      @@ScorpioMartianus interesting.
      As a speaker of modern Greek, we use γάτα for "cat", which comes from Latin "catus" I believe. But we call felines "αιλουροειδή".
      The scientific name for "cat" in Greek is "γαλή". Any idea where that comes from?

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому

    Οἱ πράσινοι μέλλουσιν ἀπερεῖν τοῖς ἀνθρώποις μὴ οἰκοδομεῖν οἰκίᾱς.

  • @nathanbinns6345
    @nathanbinns6345 3 роки тому +3

    I'm curious, does anyone else in your family share your love of languages?

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому

    Ἡ οἰκίᾱ μου καταπεπτωκυῖα κατὰ γῆς ἔδῡ, ἐπεὶ οἱ ταχεῖς σκώληκες ὑπώρυξαν αὐτήν.

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому

    Οἱ παῖδες ἀποικοῦσιν ἐκ τῆς γῆς εἰς τὸν Ἄρη ἀστέρα, ἐπεὶ μάλα γε φοβοῦνται τὴν κορωνὴν τυραννίδα.

  • @filipK14357
    @filipK14357 2 роки тому +1

    Ἠ μήτηρ μου Σεσήλια ἑστίν. Ὀ πατήρ μου Κάρλος ἑστίν. Ὀ πατήρ καὶ ἠ μήτηρ μοὺ εἱσι γονεῖς μιᾶς θυγατέρος. Τίς ἑστιν ἠ τοῦ Κάρλου καὶ τῆς Σεσήλιας θυγάτηρ; Βιβιανή ἑστιν, ἠ τοῦ Φιλίππου ἁδελφή. Ὀ Φίλιππος τίς ἑστιν; Φίλιππος εἱμι ἑγώ. Ἠ μὲν αδελφή μου ἑστι μία, οἰ δὲ αδελφοί μου εἱσι πολλοί! Τέσσαρες εἱσιν οἰ αδελφοί μου· ὀ Κάρλος Ἐρρίκος καὶ ὀ Ὀρλάνδος καὶ ὀ Ἑρνανδὀς καὶ ὀ Ἑρατός. Τίνων ἑστὶν ὀ Φίλιππος υἰός; Ὀ Φίλιππος ἑστιν ὀ τοῦ Κάρλου καὶ τῆς Σεσήλιας υἰός! Ιδού ἠ οἱκία μου!

  • @dinuwarabinudithdesilva5464
    @dinuwarabinudithdesilva5464 3 роки тому

    hey luke, where do we put tin, ton in greek. What is the meaning of that?

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому

    Ἆρα Ῥεβέκκᾱ τὼ βελοσφενδόνᾱ ἐν ἀμφοῖν τοῖν χεροῖν ἔχει; Ἦ αὐτῇ μεγάλη βελοσφενδόνη ἐστίν, ἣν ἔλαβε παρὰ τοῦ δεσπότου; Τί δ᾽ αὐτῇ καὶ τῇ δικαιοσύνῃ ἐστίν; Μόνον γὰρ αἰσθάνεσθαί σου βούλεται.

  • @thomasvulpius56
    @thomasvulpius56 3 роки тому

    Δύο ἐμοὶ παῖδέ ἐστον, οἷν ὁ μὲν Κάστωρ, ὁ δὲ Πολυδεύκης καλεῖται.

  • @Marble8King
    @Marble8King 2 роки тому

    Οι, just like ει ,is pronounced ι, not Ο-Ι. So, you must say "Η οικία μου" as in "Ikia"

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  2 роки тому +1

      No. You are describing the pronunciation of Modern Greek. Ancient Greek is pronounced very differently ua-cam.com/video/Dt9z5Gvp3MM/v-deo.html

  • @ogorangeduck
    @ogorangeduck 3 роки тому +1

    17:38 heh missed opportunity to use Greek numerals?

    • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
      @Michail_Chatziasemidis 3 роки тому

      Ἔνιοι μόνοι ἂν νοοῖεν. Καὶ ἐφ’ ᾦ τὸ βίδεο τοῖς μὴ λαλοῦσι σκοπεῖ, οὐ δεῖ αὐτοὺς δυσχεραίνειν.

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +3

      Definitely not! 😃 As it is permitted to use modern punctuation in Latin and Ancient Greek, it is also permitted to use modern technology such as Arabic numerals. While Arabic numerals are universally understood in all languages, just as most forms of punctuation are, Roman and Greek numerals are much more obscure, and thus should be used sparingly until the student is very confident with basics of the language. This is at least my pedagogical view. LLPSI takes the same tactic.

  • @loris3244
    @loris3244 3 роки тому

    I'm maybe wrong but I think there's a mistake at 4:29 because the complement of έστιν shouldn't have an article. Actually you used one in every sentence but it sounds weird, I wouldn't have put one.

    • @LukeRanieri
      @LukeRanieri 3 роки тому +4

      I don’t understand. How would you have said it?
      Edit:
      Ah, but she is *the* daughter (the only daughter), not one daughter of many.

    • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
      @Michail_Chatziasemidis 3 роки тому +1

      Ὡς ἀληθῶς ἕτερον ἑκάτερον. Ἕτερον ἂν σημαίνοι τὸ ἄνευ ἄρθρου ἢ τὸ μετ’ ἄρθρου. Διὸ κᾦδε τὸ μετ’ ἄρθρου ἀρμόζειν, ἐμοὶ δοκεῖ.

    • @loris3244
      @loris3244 3 роки тому

      @@Michail_Chatziasemidis Νυν μανθανω, ευχαριστώ !

    • @loris3244
      @loris3244 3 роки тому

      @@LukeRanieri Yes I know in that way it would have been weird but it's just that grammatically I felt it better without an article, I don't why actually

  • @WillelmusAestus
    @WillelmusAestus 3 роки тому +1

    I thought "ou" was pronounced "oh"

    • @ScorpioMartianus
      @ScorpioMartianus  3 роки тому +4

      ου has a pronunciation like /o:/ in the archaic period, but by late Classical times it was /u:/ for most speakers.

    • @WillelmusAestus
      @WillelmusAestus 3 роки тому +1

      @@ScorpioMartianus Oh, didn't know it. Thanks. I suppose it's like the Ecclesiastical-Classical debate for Latin

    • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
      @Michail_Chatziasemidis 3 роки тому +2

      @@WillelmusAestus It isn't even a debate in Greek, though. It's fair acknowledgement that languages change diachronically.

    • @WillelmusAestus
      @WillelmusAestus 3 роки тому

      @@Michail_Chatziasemidis But... I heard people pronounce it as "oh" in Ancient Greek.

    • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
      @Michail_Chatziasemidis 3 роки тому +5

      @@WillelmusAestus Don't rely only on what you hear, but put time into reading studies and researches by scientists. Sidney Allen's Vox Graeca and Horrocks' Greek deal a fair amount with the pronunciation. Οὐ may have been /o:/, but that was before the Classical Period. Languages naturally change, not only in Grammar, Vocabulary and Syntax, but also in Pronunciation (cf. The Great Vowel Shift of English). Even in Modern Greek we've observed such a change in ντ, μπ, γκ and γγ (from /nd/, /mb/, /ng/ to /d/, /b/, /g/), even though most native speakers aren't even aware of it.
      I'm sorry if you perceive me as harsh, as English isn't my mother language; I never meant anything like that. I just want to tell you that οὐ naturally changed from /o:/ (before Classic) to /u:/ (Classic and Early Koine) to /u/ (Late Koine and therefore). It isn't a debate about which pronunciation is "correct" in a certain time period, it's about the evolution of pronunciation through time.

  • @ДавидМеяфеКамиль
    @ДавидМеяфеКамиль 3 роки тому

    Herete