The Shocking Fire Of Swissair Flight 111 | Mayday S1 EP3 | Wonder

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Swissair Flight 111 was a scheduled international passenger flight from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, United States, to Cointrin International Airport in Geneva, Switzerland. This flight was also a codeshare flight with Delta Air Lines. On 2 September 1998, the McDonnell Douglas MD-11 performing this flight, registration HB-IWF, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean southwest of Halifax Stanfield International Airport at the entrance to St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia.
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  • @MarieJesne
    @MarieJesne 2 роки тому +1075

    I'm glad Bill decided to share his side of what happened even though it seems difficult for him to talk about. He has a unique perspective and really helped tell the stories of those who passed away.

    • @patagualianmostly7437
      @patagualianmostly7437 2 роки тому +43

      Yes....that struck me too. The man has had a very long nightmare dealing with that very short period of time which ended in catastrophe.
      Take care Bill.... You did what you could.... I salute you.

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 2 роки тому +22

      @@patagualianmostly7437 exactly. their jobs are not easy. very few can do that job effectively. he was responsible for a lot of planes landing safely.

    • @TinyFreya59
      @TinyFreya59 2 роки тому +7

      I’m glad that he found a way to be at peace with what happened.

    • @TermlessHGW
      @TermlessHGW Рік тому +5

      Bill looks like the type of bloke you'd like to have as a close neighbor.

    • @doggieworld2413
      @doggieworld2413 Рік тому

      I was out there that night, I will never forget that feeling

  • @alexwillis7093
    @alexwillis7093 3 роки тому +847

    The old saying, "where there's smoke there's fire".
    When there's fire at 33,000 feet it's an emergency.

    • @garycard1456
      @garycard1456 3 роки тому +77

      First hint of smoke, even if it is only fleeting and appears to disappear after a few minutes: get that plane down to the ground ASAP, get the passengers out safely and have the entire plane checked over by engineers to pinpoint the cause of the smoke. There should be NO smoke inside an airplane. A bit of inconvenience caused to passengers because of having to divert or return to the original airport is far better than tragedy like the one in this video.

    • @ytxmobile
      @ytxmobile 3 роки тому +23

      Among Chinese airlines any signals of fire are taken seriously, including even false fire alarms.
      Landing due to false fire alarms has happened on Air China, China Eastern, and China Southern.

    • @Asifkhan-dl4so
      @Asifkhan-dl4so 3 роки тому +21

      @@garycard1456 agree 100% land immediately at first slight hint of smoke

    • @quaxky326
      @quaxky326 3 роки тому +21

      @@garycard1456 But it was a common occurrence that happened regularly with the a/c. I don’t see your reasoning, I’m fine if your landing because of an emergency, but not because your overly cautious or ignorant. You don’t have to blame the crew for this, they did every procedure and checklist.

    • @garycard1456
      @garycard1456 3 роки тому +32

      @@ytxmobile When you are confined to an aluminium cylinder at 30,000 feet altitude, is better to be overly cautious and take no chances when it comes to smoke.

  • @kairo6033
    @kairo6033 3 роки тому +1707

    RIP to my friend Kyrstal Saugy .you never made it to Switzerland

    • @evan.5967
      @evan.5967 3 роки тому +74

      Rest in peace

    • @evan.5967
      @evan.5967 3 роки тому +29

      ☮️ ✌🏼 🕊

    • @veggiedisease123
      @veggiedisease123 3 роки тому +8

      Was she a friend?

    • @godfirst7216
      @godfirst7216 3 роки тому +105

      @@veggiedisease123 read the comment again

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 3 роки тому +44

      RIP Krystal ♥, So sorry. Hope you are doing well. She is watching you from the other side.

  • @camithewitch5265
    @camithewitch5265 2 роки тому +1737

    The retired air traffic controller sounded so sad talking about this. I'm glad he realised there was nothing he could've done to prevent this. I hope he's doing alright.

    • @stickyjocky
      @stickyjocky 2 роки тому +47

      Same here

    • @gregoryhawsjr3479
      @gregoryhawsjr3479 2 роки тому +73

      Very tough job at times. Also it’s one of the highest paid federal government jobs.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 2 роки тому +67

      Yeah, the only possible way for them to have survived would have been to ditch the plane as soon as they realized they needed to land. Even then, they still may not have made it. Ofc, they had no way of knowing how bad the fire was or how fast it would spread until it was just too late.

    • @vincentm.7462
      @vincentm.7462 2 роки тому +36

      He looked damaged by this

    • @CaptainFordo21
      @CaptainFordo21 2 роки тому +93

      @roro he's not an actor, smoothbrain.

  • @crazifyit
    @crazifyit 3 роки тому +432

    That man who lost his daughter was so sad. I know his wife was absolutely devastated! She lost her daughter AND her husband all at one time! He just left her and moved! He said he was in the right place for the wrong reasons. Very interesting perspective. I hope both he and his ex wife find peace after losing their daughter.

    • @m.gammon212
      @m.gammon212 3 роки тому +55

      THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE OF PEACE. THERE IS JUST THE ABILITY TO GO ON.

    • @crazifyit
      @crazifyit 3 роки тому +15

      @@m.gammon212 - I think you are right!

    • @uncletaylorify
      @uncletaylorify 3 роки тому +70

      People deal with grief differently. Some reach out to those close for support. Sadly some retreat in and push people away.

    • @carolinemaynard3288
      @carolinemaynard3288 3 роки тому +26

      I'm not sure he is blaming the right people surely it's the company who built the plane and the standards that aloud it's use. Also Swiss air moved fast to remove it from all their planes did any other company do so. Such a tragedy.

    • @crazifyit
      @crazifyit 3 роки тому +22

      @@carolinemaynard3288 - The company added those to the plane on their own. The rules at the time were different. A airline could add things like that without having them tested as strenuously as things are today. Today, they could never decide to add something like that without having the devices certified for the plane. Back then, they could. I think he was so caught up in his own grief that the pain was all he saw. There was a lot of blame to go around, but none of it will bring your only child back! He and his ex got a settlement, but I can guarantee you he would rather have his child. So would her mother. Her mother lost her child AND her husband.

  • @BreaMichelle3
    @BreaMichelle3 3 роки тому +325

    You can see the guilt and sadness in the air traffic controllers eyes. I bet there’s not a day that goes by where he doesn’t think about this devastating tragedy.

    • @DMVRailfan
      @DMVRailfan 2 роки тому +2

      Fun fact: On the CVR, if you put it in slow motion, the last words from the first officer was “Hello?”

    • @dexterpagurayan4881
      @dexterpagurayan4881 Рік тому +1

      @@DMVRailfan maybe that's after being unconscious for a moment

    • @120-e5h
      @120-e5h Рік тому +3

      ATC was way too casual and careless.

    • @danni1993
      @danni1993 Рік тому

      @@120-e5h
      I originally thought the same thing, but then I decided, the captain of the plane is responsible for all the decisions, regardless of what ATC says...HIS decision is final.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 9 місяців тому

      @@120-e5hso you’d rather have them panic got it. When u get a job in hospitality you’ll learn u have to remain calm in situations

  • @dynasty0019
    @dynasty0019 3 роки тому +99

    This was one of my favorite episodes of Mayday/Air Crash Investigation because they filmed the cockpit scenes like a horror film. It's like the fire was an entity just lurking and ready to strike when the pilots were the least expecting.

  • @icetooththehybrid4807
    @icetooththehybrid4807 3 роки тому +508

    Rest In Peace all of those people who sadly died in that crash that was not a good way to go

  • @uomodonore245
    @uomodonore245 3 роки тому +42

    I live in Nova Scotia. I remember the night this broke on the news. My roommate and myself were in shock when we heard Swissair Flight 111 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Peggy's Cove. I'll never forget that night.

  • @FLT111
    @FLT111 2 роки тому +30

    Ian Shaw is still alive and well, he featured in a german documentary on the incident of Swissair Flight 111. He is now 84 years old...

  • @breakbad9753
    @breakbad9753 3 роки тому +174

    Crazy how they can literally rebuild a plane after it breaks into 3 million pieces in the ocean years later

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 3 роки тому +11

      DId you hear how cheaply they did it?? That was amazing too. I am sure that if our govt would have tried doing this the cost overuns would put it in the BILLIONS>

    • @egregiousqueef7781
      @egregiousqueef7781 3 роки тому +8

      Glad they do - enables them to troubleshoot and suggest recommendations to prevent future crashes; also enable families to get a little more closure as to the cause and perhaps pursue a settlement with responsible parties

    • @Guizambaldi
      @Guizambaldi 2 роки тому +9

      This is the nightmare of ADHD guys and the life opportunity of OCD ones.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 2 роки тому +1

      @@Guizambaldi great comment!

    • @killaken2000
      @killaken2000 2 роки тому +2

      too bad they couldn't find the $500 million in jewels and cash or Picasso's Le Peintre
      I'm wondering if they ever recovered the remains of the Saudi prince or the relatives of the Shah of Iran

  • @jacksonpower6640
    @jacksonpower6640 Рік тому +15

    I actually just worked on the memorials for crash today (maintenance such as pressure washing etc.) and reading the names of the victims and then watching this show has been quite surreal. My condolences goes out to all the families of the victims and for the rest of the time I’m working on these memorials I’ll keep them in good shape

  • @Ryan-eu3kp
    @Ryan-eu3kp 3 роки тому +74

    The way they put that plane back together was incredible.

  • @Frazzled_Chameleon
    @Frazzled_Chameleon 3 роки тому +353

    The only way the pilots could have contributed to that disaster was if they'd set the fire themselves. Yes, sometimes pilot error is to blame, and sometimes it's just completely out of their control.

    • @juanpedro4083
      @juanpedro4083 3 роки тому +8

      I am virgen

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 2 роки тому +5

      @@juanpedro4083 lol

    • @ket5818
      @ket5818 2 роки тому +56

      The most terryfying thing about Swiss flight 111 is that no one had made a mistake. Everyone handled the situation pristinely and yet, they still didn't have a chance.

    • @m.gammon212
      @m.gammon212 2 роки тому +7

      ONLY USING CAPS FOR ME TO SEE BETTER - THE PLANE MIGHT HAVE STOOD A SLIM CHANCE IF THE PIOLETS HADN'T TRIED TO DUMP FUEL.

    • @oldgreg2914
      @oldgreg2914 2 роки тому +1

      Or sometimes. Someone is involved with the WEF(World Economic Forum), and might know too much about their "you'll own nothing and be happy" agenda.

  • @dennis12dec
    @dennis12dec 11 місяців тому +3

    Swiss tennis player Marc Rosset was supposed to be on that fateful flight following his first round defeat at the US Open he changed his plans in the last minute and decided to stay in New York for another day eventually saved his life. He was very lucky not to be on that doomed flight.

  • @Significantpower
    @Significantpower 11 місяців тому +4

    Nothing the pilots did impacted the end result, even if they went straight to Halifax International, the fire would have destroyed control systems minutes before arrival.

  • @annbell6453
    @annbell6453 3 роки тому +49

    Was there anyone on here besides me that heard of the change to nearby Halifax, and kind of hoped they would land safely? I know, it wouldn't be this story, but I just couldn't help but figure they could get back!

    • @christopherhennessey8991
      @christopherhennessey8991 3 роки тому +4

      I hoped they could land.

    • @marktwain580
      @marktwain580 3 роки тому +12

      @@christopherhennessey8991 The final report as I recall stated they wouldn't have made Halifax even if they didn't dump fuel.

    • @jacquepf7442
      @jacquepf7442 3 роки тому

      Me! I was thinking “pls pick Halifax” since it looked closer.

  • @sunshinenbacon9448
    @sunshinenbacon9448 2 роки тому +3

    I’m seriously addicted to these series

  • @sm0kei38
    @sm0kei38 2 роки тому +12

    There wasnt much they could do about the situation they were in, Bill and the pilots did their bests and put all their training into action but it was too late. May all of the people that died rest in peace by this horrific accident. May Bill also realize he did everything he could and that hes doing alright. Its truly incredible how they could figure out how and what happend by such small evidence and even after all that much was still a mystery that we can all just guess how it went down, it isnt weird that this was one of the biggest flight investigations ever.

  • @nannie2846
    @nannie2846 Рік тому +2

    I remember when this happened. I was working nights at the time and heard the reports on the radio. So sad for the familes of the people lost.

  • @steamedbun5261
    @steamedbun5261 2 роки тому +5

    Just like my Hydraulics' Professor once said
    "Almost all of Aviation's design and guides are written using blood of countless people"

  • @rexxsimba
    @rexxsimba Рік тому +2

    A good bet was that the fire started in some IFE equipment underneath the First Class Cabin adjacent to the Cockpit ...
    The crew should have just gone direct for Halifax dumping fuel on the way ..
    Last ditch could have been a beach landing attempt like Ethiopian Airlines in the Comoros...

  • @EquineMetalhead
    @EquineMetalhead Рік тому +2

    What a sad story. My condolences to the families who lost their loved ones on that flight. The poor dad, the pain he went though is so unbearable. Losing your child would be terrible. To all the people onboard Swiss Airlines Flight 111, may you all rest in peace, you are deeply missed ❤

  • @AustinHansen
    @AustinHansen 3 роки тому +13

    That guy said that so casually. “I knew instantaneously that we lost our daughter” 😳

    • @dantevale0
      @dantevale0 3 роки тому +1

      She was physically very attractive...

    • @heidikindon5182
      @heidikindon5182 3 роки тому +4

      That wasn’t casual. That was self-control so deep it looked effortless.

  • @jerrygereckegod8224
    @jerrygereckegod8224 3 роки тому +4

    As a retired F.A.A. A&P mechanic, this is horrifying.

  • @peterolsen269
    @peterolsen269 2 роки тому +2

    I like how they casually put "Gambling System" and "Inflight Entertainment". It seems that not only first class passengers were gambling, everyone on the aircraft was gambling with their lives. Why put aftermarket non-approved electrical equipment on an aircraft is beyond my understanding. Where is the checklist item to control this in-house installation if it goes afoul? Swiss Air has some questions to answer about this one.

  • @dwetick1
    @dwetick1 3 роки тому +15

    The Entertainment system was wired directly to the power bus with no circuit breaker probably because the entertainment system current demand exceeded the circuit breaker ratings...really a criminal act. Its no wonder Swissair went bankrupt...they deserved it.

  • @pulimassiv8707
    @pulimassiv8707 3 роки тому +6

    Swissair never forgotten 🙏 The greatest Airline in the world!

    • @howmathematicianscreatemat9226
      @howmathematicianscreatemat9226 2 роки тому

      yeah, they were the quickest to change the flight entertainment systems to safe future passangers, they deserve their $s.

    • @Lizwindsor
      @Lizwindsor Рік тому

      Not so sure after watching this……

  • @astronomydemon6312
    @astronomydemon6312 3 роки тому +6

    This situation makes me shutter
    I remember me and my dad got on a plane once (not this one) they started the engines, and all of a sudden there was this thick smell of smoke everywhere. They stopped the take off sequence and turned back in, got on a different plane and our flight was safe, still was a bit shaken though.

  • @AjaySingh-xd4nz
    @AjaySingh-xd4nz 3 роки тому +14

    pilots did whatever they could. Given the circumstances, this crash was inevitable.

    • @bradfordmiller4287
      @bradfordmiller4287 Рік тому

      I respectfully disagree, and I consulted with a recently retired pilot friend. He & I both think that the pilots could have made a better attempt at landing quicker by losing altitude faster and taking a straight shot at landing instead of making that turn. It may still have been unsuccessful, but the way this incident is presented, there just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency by the pilots to get this flight down as quickly as possible.

    • @AjaySingh-xd4nz
      @AjaySingh-xd4nz Рік тому

      @@bradfordmiller4287 I respectfully value your opinion. My comment was purely based on my understanding just as a viewer of this video. I am not an expert of aviation, and definitely an expert or a pilot may have a completely different opinion.

  • @SuperfluousIndividual
    @SuperfluousIndividual Рік тому +2

    38:35 - _If there's smoke, there's fire._ Such a simple saying, and yet so true.
    This crash reminds me of the boy who cried wolf story. The smoke was 'banalized' due to it being an usual occurrence in the AC systems installed in commercial flights, so the sense of urgency wasn't there until oxygen masks were actually needed.

  • @oxoalan1
    @oxoalan1 Рік тому +1

    I *Wonder* what setting @Wonder is using to maximise the ads in this video.
    Great quality content, nevertheless.

  • @lordrobert12
    @lordrobert12 3 роки тому +6

    God bless the victims!! May they all Rest In Peace!!❤️❤️

  • @kharisjones6136
    @kharisjones6136 2 роки тому +3

    It always has to be a tragedy to find out that something wasn't right. Rest in peace to all on that plane

    • @lisamac8503
      @lisamac8503 Рік тому

      Have no idea what everyone keeps saying rest in peace .........maybe they do not want to rest in peace!!!

  • @riogrande5761
    @riogrande5761 Рік тому +1

    Common sense says, if there is smoke, there is fire. If there is a fire on a plane, get on the ground as soon as possible.

    • @zzoinks
      @zzoinks Рік тому

      It's weird how the plane didn't have any kind of smoke or heat sensor behind the wall, maybe they never designed it in due to the age of the plane.

  • @georgittesingbiel219
    @georgittesingbiel219 Рік тому +2

    If they knew the source of the smoke, I wonder why the pilots didn't use a fire extinguisher to try and put the fire out in the beginning. RIP to all who perished.

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom Рік тому +1

    May the passengers and crew of Swissair flight 111 heavy RIP and may our thoughts and prayers go out to their friends, families and the air traffic controllers involved in this horrible accident.

  • @titan9259
    @titan9259 3 роки тому +7

    Can’t wait for avianca flight 52

  • @johnrandolph6121
    @johnrandolph6121 3 роки тому +6

    I'm not sure how Swiss Air is at fault since the material they used was approved at the time......

    • @bob_kazamakis
      @bob_kazamakis 3 роки тому +6

      Well whose fault is it for okaying an in-flight entertainment system that (a) bypasses the cabin breaker (b) has a tendency to draw a lot of power and create heat (c) wasn’t thoroughly tested given the power requirements of the system and how it was all put together. Understanding power requirements and what type of wire to use is a critical engineering decision that could result in wire sheathing just melting right off and causing arcing. That ultimately falls on the plane manufacturer (if pre-installed, highly unlikely considering the circuit error), the air line (if they installed it themselves), or the contracted company that installed them… which should have then been tested by the airline.

  • @TheIndoGod
    @TheIndoGod Рік тому

    Well God Damn. Good Thing They Told The Whole Story In The First 2 Minutes. Guess I'll Find Something Else To Watch

  • @annalupton9284
    @annalupton9284 3 роки тому +2970

    It's so incredible how they can analyze every fragment of the wreckage and reconstruct it to figure out what happened. It's literally a plane autopsy and it's fascinating

    • @patriciaramsey5294
      @patriciaramsey5294 3 роки тому +22

      I wonder would so much work have been done if this crash happened in america

    • @wioi
      @wioi 3 роки тому +138

      @@patriciaramsey5294 of course it would be. It has to be done no matter where in the world it happens it is always done

    • @tammymize
      @tammymize 3 роки тому +6

      100% agreed

    • @GoLakers3900
      @GoLakers3900 3 роки тому +21

      Men are very capable to a point it truly amazes people when they stop and think. The modern world isn't possible without us.

    • @GregorioStyreco
      @GregorioStyreco 2 роки тому +6

      Well thats their job. You act like you just came from the Stoneage.

  • @onethousandtwonortheast8848
    @onethousandtwonortheast8848 2 роки тому +222

    I can’t help but think about the second pilot who was still alive one minute before impact. The stress. I know he tried his best. RIP all of them.

  • @rommy143
    @rommy143 3 роки тому +2993

    That poor air traffic controller is devastated. I can’t imagine what he must feel.

    • @marthahanley6650
      @marthahanley6650 3 роки тому +198

      I hope that he was given counseling for his PTSD which seems to me that he would have.
      When he said that he "dreamed" of it I would say nightmares. I watch TheFlightChannel but these here are really more determined with real people as in the three or more actors.

    • @michaeljoseph3528
      @michaeljoseph3528 3 роки тому +43

      @@marthahanley6650 Thanks Martha for sending out your care. Hope he sees it. God Bless All.

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +115

      He has made public statements about his PTSD. Now he helps other ATCs after critical incidents.

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 3 роки тому +146

      The one that gets me the hardest is the ATC who was murdered by the Russian because of a midair collision. The actor for the ATC screaming in pain after seeing two radar markers collide makes my soul hurt.

    • @TopAhmed1
      @TopAhmed1 3 роки тому +11

      He should always be blamed for it

  • @angelawerner6921
    @angelawerner6921 3 роки тому +3541

    This show is so good....I literally never want to fly again

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 3 роки тому +330

      Thanks to this show I understand why its safe to fly.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 роки тому +122

      That's a pretty stupid conclusion

    • @aBaird-du4jd
      @aBaird-du4jd 3 роки тому +12

      Yes

    • @brianlaroche8856
      @brianlaroche8856 3 роки тому +80

      @@thisaccounthasbeensuspended suspended !!!lol, maybe but fender benders or roll overs usualy have all passengers survive.
      There is no fender bender on a plane flying down

    • @user-ej2xz3lx2e
      @user-ej2xz3lx2e 3 роки тому +6

      Hahaha

  • @samanthaklein2428
    @samanthaklein2428 2 роки тому +673

    Rest In Peace to my grandpa who died on swissair 111, I didn't get to know him because of this tradgey but he will forever be remembered. RIP To all other victims of this crash and thank you to the first responders

  • @ddiamondr1
    @ddiamondr1 3 роки тому +847

    Residents of St. Margaret's Bay took to their boats immediately after hearing the crash, searching the waters. I'm not sure why this omission of the efforts of the residents happened but I have read that many were greatly affected by what they saw that night. One fisherman recovered the body of a toddler. Others recovered personal items identified by family and many of the residents met the 111 families and established friendships that continue to this day. A small comfort of connection in a heart breaking tragedy.

    • @MajesticalHonky
      @MajesticalHonky 2 роки тому +9

      Do you mean the residents of Peggy's Cove? St' Margaret''s Bay is some distance away from where the plane went down.

    • @roamingirl
      @roamingirl 2 роки тому +7

      I’ve read about that as well- or watched something that included it. Very touching that a community between the different groups was established almost immediately - bonded by tragedy as soon as that first boat was put in the water.
      FWIW, also interesting from a sociological perspective!

    • @jefferystutsman6419
      @jefferystutsman6419 Рік тому

      As did your mom, her being used to following the Navy men

    • @hmkmk7038
      @hmkmk7038 Рік тому +8

      @@MajesticalHonky Peggy’s Cove is on one side of the bay, Bayswater, where another memorial is, is on the other. Entrance of the bay between these points goes out to where the crash site was.

    • @michaelhuebner6843
      @michaelhuebner6843 Рік тому +6

      Many things are omitted from shows like these. One of the main factors is the accident itself. They only want to make an episode about the well known, positive outcome, or very old crashes to not scare the general public away from flying on planes. Flying is not at all safe and the multi-trillion Dollar per year industry wishes to keep this lie going. Many people have died in plane crashes and there are hundreds of things that can go wrong. When your engine fails on your car, you pull over on the side of the road. When both engines fail on a plane, you have a 90% chance of death or serious injury. Stark contrast of outcomes.

  • @GWhizard
    @GWhizard 3 роки тому +2570

    As a private pilot, nothing frightens me more than fire at altitude. If i smell the slightest waft of smoke, I'm descending Vne RIGHT NOW.

    • @tdickensheets
      @tdickensheets 3 роки тому +17

      Survivors 0

    • @GWhizard
      @GWhizard 3 роки тому +347

      @@tdickensheets oh! I didn't feel the need to explain, Thomas Dippinshits, i reduce to approach speed near the ground. Why is there always somebody like you?

    • @Asifkhan-dl4so
      @Asifkhan-dl4so 3 роки тому +79

      could not agree more with you as some 1 looking at the situation from outside , am i right to say if they had directly gone for landing immediately at the first hint of a smell of smoke .. they would have all lived ,

    • @Aamir1Sohail
      @Aamir1Sohail 3 роки тому +38

      But for commercial flights, is it mandatory to dump fuel before landing? And why don't those huge planes are built with automated fire extingushing system?

    • @GWhizard
      @GWhizard 3 роки тому +133

      @@Aamir1Sohail Generally, dumping fuel is not for fire prevention cuz the fumes that remain are more explosive than the fuel, i think. Dumping fuel is for reducing the weight in case of a quick return to the airport, i think. Dumping fuel takes time a most fires don't wait, i think.

  • @TaldrenDR
    @TaldrenDR 3 роки тому +354

    "...By the book approach cost them their lives" ... same people that would say "he deviated from the book costing them their lives"

    • @anbee8127
      @anbee8127 3 роки тому +56

      I can't think of anything they did wrong. It sad that they just did not have any time left considering the speed at which the fire spread.

    • @Trulycanadian777
      @Trulycanadian777 3 роки тому +21

      You really can't please those kinds of people

    • @LoaThunder
      @LoaThunder 3 роки тому +10

      But thats a sad fact, i dont think he blamed the pilots for following the book

    • @33moneyball
      @33moneyball 3 роки тому +4

      The pilots not understanding the gravity of the situation cost them their lives.

    • @LoaThunder
      @LoaThunder 3 роки тому +23

      @@33moneyball yeah, but they couldn't understand it

  • @PWNsoldier
    @PWNsoldier 3 роки тому +2628

    "Flammable materials do not belong on commercial aircraft"
    Two hundred and twenty nine people died to teach the aviation industry this lesson. Nobody figured this out before. Wow.

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 3 роки тому +175

      You should read about the Apollo 1 fire. Same problem.

    • @paulamarentette695
      @paulamarentette695 3 роки тому +98

      @@BollocksUtwat That was a horror. Those poor guys.

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 3 роки тому +163

      @@paulamarentette695 They were sealed in the capsule from the inside and had to use tools to try and escape. It was insane. They never stood a chance.
      As the head of Mission Control during the Apollo says said, he believes they basically murdered those men through the dangers they exposed them to. Pretty serious stuff.

    • @FeelFree3
      @FeelFree3 3 роки тому +47

      It is ironic that material passed the test.

    • @gustavolopez3405
      @gustavolopez3405 3 роки тому +17

      hola va mas alla de darse cuenta, yo trabajo con gente y la gente suele hacerse la tonta, algunos por inters economico, otros por porfiadez , te dicen que "nunca paso nada" , o te dicen " no te metas" ... o creenque vos queres hacer negocio cambiando algo ......hay muchas actitudes de el ser humano que son un desastre.
      muchas cosas la gente SE DA CUENTA , Y asi y todo se niegan a hacer algo y cuando pasa un accidente se hacen los tontos....
      es el ser humano, es asi , es triste, pero es asi.

  • @AmazonAllie73
    @AmazonAllie73 2 роки тому +180

    I live in Moncton. This flight feels like yesterday.
    On a side note, I was in Peggy's Cove last weekend and was out on a boat. I asked how far out it was. And found out another piece was found last month. In 2022, still finding pieces.

    • @stephendacey8761
      @stephendacey8761 Рік тому

      Maybe, it's worth money.

    • @YousetAlabkal
      @YousetAlabkal Рік тому +9

      @@stephendacey8761bro 💀

    • @StephenLuke
      @StephenLuke 7 місяців тому +10

      @@stephendacey8761 You could get arrested for theft of government property if you kept it or sold it. If you find a piece in a wrecked or crashed plane or anything that occurred in a disaster, you should report it, don't touch it, follow instructions, document it, wait for guidance, and most of all not keep it.

    • @GudaGudaPaisen
      @GudaGudaPaisen 4 місяці тому +2

      @@stephendacey8761 dude, have some moral.

    • @ArronP
      @ArronP Місяць тому

      I was in Peggy's Cove with my family a little over a week ago
      I'm not surprised that pieces are still showing up along the shore it turned up a million pieces..

  • @samkohen4589
    @samkohen4589 3 роки тому +1032

    I was at Peggy's Cove last year. It is a truly beautiful place. A policeman there told me that artifacts from the accident still come on shore at times. That just a few days earlier a wallet from one of the passengers showed up brought in by the tide.

    • @hfifm
      @hfifm 3 роки тому +133

      This reads like something an NPC would say to you in Pokémon

    • @yoongz384
      @yoongz384 3 роки тому +25

      @@hfifm HELP

    • @y2daisy
      @y2daisy 3 роки тому +11

      💔✝🙏🌸

    • @shieevpalpaitine5134
      @shieevpalpaitine5134 3 роки тому +5

      I am also planning on going is there anything to do there?

    • @samkohen4589
      @samkohen4589 3 роки тому +5

      @@shieevpalpaitine5134 The beach is fantastic

  • @korbell1089
    @korbell1089 3 роки тому +877

    "initially a small cockpit fire..."
    There is no such thing as a small fire on an airplane!

    • @nomiddlenamenmn427
      @nomiddlenamenmn427 3 роки тому +27

      I agree. There is no such thing as a small fire.

    • @icemachine79
      @icemachine79 3 роки тому +37

      "Small" as in hidden and contained as long as the circulation fans kept running.

    • @LoneWolf_RO
      @LoneWolf_RO 3 роки тому +14

      i agree. outrageous on how the pilots reacted. all the blame it s on them

    • @icemachine79
      @icemachine79 3 роки тому +70

      @@LoneWolf_RO You have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @nomdeplume2213
      @nomdeplume2213 3 роки тому +23

      Well technically. One time on Alaska airlines one of the stewards accidentally put foil in the microwave and it caught fire and extinguished it immediately. Id say thats a small fire. Also, it was a breakfast burrito wrapped in paper and then in foil and it was the paper that actually caught fire. He was mortified and so embarrassed that all us passengers felt for him. He apologized to each of us individually as if he had slapped our mothers 🤣 he was such a sweetheart.

  • @LLandS18
    @LLandS18 3 роки тому +532

    I live in Nova Scotia and I was 8 years old when this happened we were staying out at a cottage in Peggy's cove and I'll never forget that sound of that plane hitting the water. When I'm stressed out or upset about something when I sleep I dream about that Bang. I feel for the families who lost.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 3 роки тому +30

      Thanks for sharing that story. It must be such an eerie feeling knowing you were there.

    • @LLandS18
      @LLandS18 3 роки тому +63

      @@jaimhaas5170 I was in bed but my mom saw the plane flying low then min later we heard the boom. She called 911 but they all really knew. The local Fishman were the first out to look for survivors. Unfortunately there were no survivors. I have traveled alot and I my be bias but the Nova Scotia coastline is one of the most beautiful coast lines with some of the most welcome people in the world. I know these things don't mean terrible things can't happen there but it just seems so out of place for such a peaceful area. The province of Nova Scotia has built a place for love ones to remember the family and friends who they have lost.

    • @novascotiaskater1868
      @novascotiaskater1868 3 роки тому +19

      @@LLandS18 I’m glad you enjoy NS so much! It’s a beautiful province and the people are very friendly! I had multiple friends in the Navy who responded immediately and saw horrible tragic things that night and suffered severe ptsd.....

    • @andrewmjoli8617
      @andrewmjoli8617 3 роки тому +8

      Never agine will I Fly

    • @simna32
      @simna32 2 роки тому +7

      Thanks for sharing so sad 😞

  • @MsFreudianSlip
    @MsFreudianSlip Рік тому +111

    My forensic anthropology professor missed the first few weeks of classes in the fall of 1998 because the RCMP needed her on the shores of Peggy's Cove to identify human remains. From how she described it, I'm surprised that there was even one body found in-tact because when she arrived back at the university and we saw her in class she told us a lot about her experience and I'll never forget one of the things she said: many pieces she identified were mere shards and splinters of bone. She said that the plane hitting that fast literally broke those poor people up incredibly badly. The only solace is that they wouldn't have been in any pain - she said that kind of death is so incredibly fast that they wouldn't have felt a thing.

    • @biker5662
      @biker5662 Рік тому +2

      Wow. So sad.

    • @2goblinsinatrenchcoat
      @2goblinsinatrenchcoat Рік тому +8

      That does offer a strange comfort to know that they didn’t suffer in the end. I am so terribly saddened for the lives lost and their loved ones.

    • @applesomething
      @applesomething 11 місяців тому +3

      Whoa. I can’t even wrap my brain around how bodies can break up like that.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 роки тому +1933

    It is always easier to blame those that no longer have a voice.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 3 роки тому +214

      The fire wasn't the fault of the crew. They did everything they were trained to do.

    • @mereja108
      @mereja108 3 роки тому +78

      @@twistedyogert but think about it, the moment there was smoke, they were just doubting that the smoke was nothing. The moment they smell smoke on deck, they have to declare emergency, before anything worse can happen.

    • @jasonmumbo7123
      @jasonmumbo7123 3 роки тому +6

      True

    • @quaxky326
      @quaxky326 3 роки тому +201

      @@mereja108 No, it was a common occurrence therefore dismissed, they only decided to divert the plane when the smoke started to fill the cockpit with fire. They did everything they were trained to do including checklists and other procedures. It’s okay to be cautious, but it’s never okay to be over-careful and ignorant.

    • @mereja108
      @mereja108 3 роки тому +4

      @@quaxky326 true, but in this case, this situation was really bad

  • @ef5supercell
    @ef5supercell 3 роки тому +1587

    Thank you for uploading the full thing without any BS "pay-to-watch-more" kinda things, Wonder UA-cam intern.

  • @GaisSacredCreations
    @GaisSacredCreations 3 роки тому +2961

    My brother was deeply affected by this crash. His naval ship, the HMCS Ville de Québec was docked at the Port of Halifax and was the first ship to arrive on the scene that night. He spent 12 hours in the darkness and cold picking up bodies and wreckage out of the water. Most of the crew members suffered PTSD following that sad incident. Just visiting the beautiful SR 111 Peggy's Cove Memorial erected over Indian Harbour, you can feel the sadness that lingers there.

    • @empacotador
      @empacotador 3 роки тому +51

      Omg, should be a hell on Earth.

    • @markrenton1093
      @markrenton1093 3 роки тому +35

      I do not mean to sound crude but how could the bodies been intact?

    • @GaisSacredCreations
      @GaisSacredCreations 3 роки тому +258

      @@markrenton1093 I never mentioned that they were intact. and that there were children too. This isn't the place to mention those details.

    • @markrenton1093
      @markrenton1093 3 роки тому +26

      @@GaisSacredCreations , it crashed at an astounding 350 g's if that is possible.

    • @burningwreckage00
      @burningwreckage00 3 роки тому +128

      @@markrenton1093 In the words of a coroner from an article who worked on victim identification for this accident, "What bodies?"

  • @idknils2920
    @idknils2920 3 роки тому +940

    I feel so bad for the atc. He is at no fault, still he feels so guilty and insecure.

    • @TopAhmed1
      @TopAhmed1 3 роки тому +10

      nah... he is guilty and to be blamed for

    • @marieanni5401
      @marieanni5401 3 роки тому +98

      @@TopAhmed1 How is he guilty?

    • @PP-ed9cf
      @PP-ed9cf 3 роки тому +63

      True and it wasn't his fault. Being calm and in control is great which is very commendable of the pilots but failing to communicate smoke in the cockpit and the fact that they couldn't see instruments was beyond calm, it was ineffective communication.

    • @nonnaurbisness3013
      @nonnaurbisness3013 3 роки тому +6

      @@adriangurges8244 you're talking about a different person then those guys are.

    • @adriangurges8244
      @adriangurges8244 3 роки тому +2

      @@nonnaurbisness3013 Do you mean firefighters? Well i mean when your Christmas tree Burns you Just Need a fire extinguisher. And every Plane has one on Board.

  • @matkodoris9099
    @matkodoris9099 3 роки тому +438

    I have a smoke detector that does not allow me to light a candle without going bananas. I figured a plane would have had some detection system that could give an early heads up to the pilots.

    • @livethemoment5148
      @livethemoment5148 3 роки тому +67

      no you see...that would cost too much and cut into the airlines profit...

    • @SkarKingg
      @SkarKingg 3 роки тому +26

      Your smoke detector is too close to the candle

    • @Colaholiker
      @Colaholiker 3 роки тому +54

      Aircraft did and do have smoke detectors. But you can't have them everywhere. Keep in mind this is not just a lot of open space like your living room, behind the panels there are lots of small compartments, most of them too small to hold a smoke detector, and putting one everywhere + the monitoring equipment for them just drives the plane's weight through the roof. That's why you are supposed to have non flammable materials there, so that even if a wire starts to get hot, the damage is limited to that wire and maybe its direct neighbors.
      Too bad they didn't really go into why that material passed the flammability test and was certified first, but then went thermonuclear on board of Swissair 111.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 роки тому +7

      1998

    • @nunyabidness674
      @nunyabidness674 3 роки тому +37

      @@Colaholiker The Mylar had gone through flammability testing in the most rigorous environment conceivable at the time. NASA has used it for years. The difference was the method of installation. It had been blessed off on for use in spaceflight, and engineers said "That's good enough for us!" The difference being, the Mylar in commercial aircraft isn't changed out every flight, NASA wasn't using 5 year old material. This incident is what proved that Mylar breaks down over a relatively short span of time and loses it's retardant capability.

  • @LinLin-fp5dw
    @LinLin-fp5dw 3 роки тому +283

    Ok, now I understand why Mr Beveren was so irritated when he spoke about the entertainment system being newly incorporated into the Swiss planes. What a horrible event that happened. The pilots experienced hell and I admire their composed attitude.

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +3

      The IFE system was a new thing then.

    • @silavantalyn
      @silavantalyn 3 роки тому +8

      Totally agreed. I also think it's absolutely incredible that they kept the pane flying for a full 6 minutes after the fire had burned through the cockpit electrics. 6 MINUTES!!! So sad they didn't make it in the end 😢

  • @deminalla3993
    @deminalla3993 2 роки тому +165

    Major respect for the people who analyzed million tiny pieces to figure out what happened. Im just grateful that they didn't give up after like 2 months and kept going

    • @wlfgang
      @wlfgang 7 місяців тому

      Why would they give up? In the western countries (Europe, USA) there are aviation accident agencies that do jobs like these and they get paid for it.

  • @AmDrag5
    @AmDrag5 3 роки тому +410

    every time i see a different rendition of this incident, i always have a small feeling of hope that the plane will be able to land safely, even though we all know it doesn't. very sad for all of those involved.

    • @harindranathk300
      @harindranathk300 2 роки тому +5

      But rest assured that whoever investigates a crash , many times over , will publish a final report _ pilot error

    • @dazzlingextremes389
      @dazzlingextremes389 2 роки тому +10

      Me too!!! It's wild how we know how it will end and still wish it to be safe.

    • @jeandiamond3898
      @jeandiamond3898 2 роки тому

      @@supertoasting1011 .p

    • @larrysproul9424
      @larrysproul9424 2 роки тому +6

      @@harindranathk300 They should have taken the smoke more serious and landed the plane ASAP . I just cant think what was going on in their minds .

    • @AmrMoatasem
      @AmrMoatasem 2 роки тому +7

      @@larrysproul9424 It was stated in the doc that the plane wouldn’t have reached the the closest airport before the fire spread. It was doomed from early on.

  • @ninsku3739
    @ninsku3739 3 роки тому +1025

    I will never forget that day. That summer I flew for the first time in my life and I was pretty scared. My parents told me over and over that Swiss Air is very safe with great pilots and the MD11 was a very safe plane. We returned from our vacation on September 1st, 1998. The next day this crash happened.

    • @marlonquintana3466
      @marlonquintana3466 3 роки тому +17

      😳😖.

    • @ninsku3739
      @ninsku3739 3 роки тому +55

      @@marlonquintana3466 suddenly things are very close

    • @gab1606
      @gab1606 3 роки тому +12

      This summer?- that would be 24years ago girl but I’m glad your sfae

    • @ninsku3739
      @ninsku3739 3 роки тому +28

      @@gab1606 sorry, meant "that summer"

    • @Brucev7
      @Brucev7 3 роки тому +6

      Don't use the Entertainment system

  • @srmj71
    @srmj71 3 роки тому +299

    I think it's been determined that no matter if they started heading straight for the runway, from the altitude they were at..... it wouldn't have mattered. God I hope I'm never in a situation that no matter what I do, it's already been decided.

    • @theblueclue3843
      @theblueclue3843 3 роки тому +43

      that’s what makes this crash so terrifying. there’s nothing the pilots or ATC could have done

    • @srmj71
      @srmj71 3 роки тому +23

      @@theblueclue3843 If I were in that same situation, I'd hope they would be able to say the same thing about me, they fought it all the way down, they never gave up.

    • @stopspam420
      @stopspam420 3 роки тому +17

      The real truth is that we are all living that scenario right now. Our fates are already decided! Just sayin.

    • @petemitchell9996
      @petemitchell9996 3 роки тому +18

      If it was daytime there would've been an option of VFR landing in captain Sully's style. But considering the weather, the uncalm waters, and the terrain around Halifax, it's unlikely it would be a good idea even during the day.

    • @EShirako
      @EShirako 3 роки тому +11

      @@petemitchell9996 Agreed. They never even knew the issue was so desperately dire until it was far too late even to take desperate measures. It all happened so *quickly*.

  • @zachzelman418
    @zachzelman418 2 роки тому +80

    Was on a Swiss flight a few weeks ago and got to know one of the flight attendant who also worked for Swissair starting in the early 1990s. Said he knew the crew of 111. Still devastated 23+ years later

  • @TheLavennovell
    @TheLavennovell 3 роки тому +466

    This flight was supposed to be my father's flight before his ticket was rerouted. He never told us before, until he safely arrived home. He passed away on 2012.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 роки тому +26

      In 2012 but I'm so sorry to hear your loss

    • @TheLavennovell
      @TheLavennovell 3 роки тому +35

      @@florjanbrudar692 thanks dear , we still missed him so dearly. He did told us about some bad rumor regarding this flight.

    • @naaomi
      @naaomi 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@TheLavennovell What rumour did your dad tell you guys???

    • @CraftingTableMC
      @CraftingTableMC 2 роки тому +4

      That was a very close one! Sorry for your loss.

    • @eddieeclark314
      @eddieeclark314 2 роки тому +1

      sorry for ur loss plane crashes are horrible

  • @shreyanayak782
    @shreyanayak782 3 роки тому +355

    After watching these videos' I have immense respect for all the pilots who fearlessly have devoted themselves in service of the people. Hats off to all these great hero's.

    • @harindranathk300
      @harindranathk300 2 роки тому +2

      But the investigators put cause as pilot error especially if the cockpit crew are no more

    • @dazzlingextremes389
      @dazzlingextremes389 2 роки тому +1

      You are right bc as many times as it all goes great it only takes one time for it to all go wrong and they never know. Just as we never know getting into our cars BUT most the time we have better chances of walking away from a car crash.

    • @mik55tv22
      @mik55tv22 2 роки тому +5

      The pilot was the one to cause this tragedy if he was still alive i would throw him in prison he killed 229 people because he wanted to seem smarter than his co pilot who told him to land without dumbing fuel but pilot insisted to go away ftom the airport to dumb fuel which lead to this horrible tragedy

    • @WorkWizdom
      @WorkWizdom 2 роки тому +12

      It's beyond me to think how the pilot can be responsible when the particular flight system was a total disaster. They were facing an unusual situation and I am sure they tried their best to safeguard the passengers. It's highly unfortunate that the entire blame is been put on the pilot as opposed to the company who designed the aircraft

    • @haranglouis5252
      @haranglouis5252 2 роки тому +1

      lol airplane are safer than bus. So what about bus driver.

  • @benjamingaiety9158
    @benjamingaiety9158 3 роки тому +253

    My biggest fear as a pilot will always be getting a call from the crew stating we have smoke in the cabin espcially of unknown origin

    • @flyhigh4332
      @flyhigh4332 3 роки тому +3

      Don't fear, only be wise and alert. If u face such a things in ur life instead of continu the flight, find a better place for landing it. Thank u

    • @egregiousqueef7781
      @egregiousqueef7781 3 роки тому +7

      Or having them get on the intercom only to hear "Pull Up, Terrain - Pull Up, Terrain" over and over in the background, at night while cloudy

    • @howmathematicianscreatemat9226
      @howmathematicianscreatemat9226 2 роки тому +1

      If this happens to you, I hope you have a copilot with you who can then stand up and assist the flight attendants to find the origin of the fire ( while you can continue to calmly lead the plane to its destination)

  • @LtNduati
    @LtNduati 3 роки тому +289

    This has to be the scariest air disaster, because of how quickly everything went south. I'm a novice pilot, started flying when I could barely reach the rudder pedals, and used to be a nervous flyer when I wasn't behind the controls, and this is the only scenario that still makes me scared to fly.

    • @informitas0117
      @informitas0117 3 роки тому +12

      Fire is no joke.

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla 3 роки тому +18

      They really should’ve landed as soon as possible.The cockpit fire procedures back then were very poor.These days it’s mandatory for planes to land ASAP during cockpit fires.

    • @Bheliar
      @Bheliar 2 роки тому +40

      @@BrooklynBalla They couldn’t. They couldn’t. They couldn’t. Did I mention that they couldn’t? It’s even stated in this very video that we both watched, that there was absolutely no way they could have landed that plane on time. What’s done is done, and that’s the reality. People need to stop coming up with random scenarios in their heads regarding this flight. You don’t land a plane every time one of your windshield wipers don’t work. There was absolutely no indication that there was a fire at first. Again, as per mentioned in this video, smell of burnt electronics or even a bit of smoke is completely normal. There was nothing that could have been done to avoid this tragedy.

    • @ZeppelinR101
      @ZeppelinR101 2 роки тому +7

      @@Bheliar Finally, somebody said it. Thanks!

    • @Leetbeast
      @Leetbeast 2 роки тому +2

      @@Bheliar yeah there was smoke = fire and they always land immediatly if smoke

  • @theblueclue3843
    @theblueclue3843 3 роки тому +388

    Learning about plane crashes and incidents usually doesn’t affect me but flight 111 is terrifying. So many little things *might* have been able to save them, but at the same time, beyond the instrumental failure none of them made and obvious mistakes. terrifying

    • @banyana6515
      @banyana6515 3 роки тому +47

      Then you should check out the Alaskan airline crash. Now those people suffered. The plane flew inverted for a while. Eye witnesses said it flipped, twisted, before it hit the ocean. Out of all the crashes I have watched that one always gets me very emotional just thinking how they suffered before they died.

    • @uncletaylorify
      @uncletaylorify 3 роки тому +39

      Add to the fact that Alaskan Airlines not only falsified repair records but denied the Chief mechanic request to replace the part that broke and killed all those folks.

    • @dlobrown3673
      @dlobrown3673 3 роки тому +12

      Turning away from halifax was a mistake.

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 3 роки тому +25

      @@dlobrown3673 We can say what was a mistake and what was not with the benefit of hindsight, but if you were those pilots and accustomed to some small amount of smoke from the air conditioner? Who's to say what any of us would do in that situation.

    • @TysMommy609
      @TysMommy609 3 роки тому +7

      @@dlobrown3673 Also, the fact that they didn’t start coming down sooner. It sounds like it they didn’t wait so long to descend (and if they had communicated the need to dump fuel sooner) they would have been able to land so much sooner. It wouldn’t have stopped the fire but they likely would have gotten everyone off.

  • @roxanbabin6680
    @roxanbabin6680 3 роки тому +464

    I lived in st Margaret’s bay. My Dad was in the navy and the stories of the aftermath clean up of the crash still hurt my heart till this day. So many men had to pull out of the water things they could’ve never imagined. Rest In Peace to all souls lost. If anyone around the world visits Halifax, please make a point to visit the memorial of Swiss air 111.

    • @meinradsigner203
      @meinradsigner203 3 роки тому +8

      Been there, visited the church of Peggy's Cove, drove all the way from Manitoba to Nova Scotia and back. MS

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +7

      After visiting the graves of the people who were aboard the Titanic. Same kind of thing one hundred years apart.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 3 роки тому +17

      I can't even begin to imagine what your dad and others went through that night. My heart goes out to all rescuers everywhere. They have to witness the unimaginable horrors that many of us are blessed not to witness.

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +1

      @H Sh Yes, its a bit further down from the famous lighthouse. About a half hour drive from where I live in Halifax.

    • @Tawadeb
      @Tawadeb 3 роки тому +4

      God rest all lost

  • @sandrachisholm2310
    @sandrachisholm2310 2 роки тому +60

    I'm from Nova Scotia and I remember this day like yesterday. It was devastating for all involved, knowing what those poor passengers and crew suffered and the trauma of those who worked in the recovery and investigation.

  • @bernlin2000
    @bernlin2000 3 роки тому +462

    Perhaps the most terrifying episode so far that I've seen...the fact that a flight crew could do everything right and still spell doom for all aboard, it gives me chills. The kind of temperament the pilot's exhibited might have been their downfall in this specific circumstance, but it's exactly what you would hope for in a flight crew. Who knows what other disaster could have occurred if they panicked? Truly a nightmare scenario.

    • @targetedandfiring4336
      @targetedandfiring4336 2 роки тому +69

      It's so scary to think. That while a fire is raging behind him. Smoke taking over the cabin. The captain probably dead behind him in the smoke. His body being burned alive by the flames. That the 1st Officer kept the plane in the air and did the best he could during his final moments. The amount of pain he must have endured as he turned off the engine. Alone. In the dark. He's a hero too. He did his best given the situation more than would have been able to. Somehow fighting through what must have been unbearable pain with the corpse of his fellow pilot somewhere in the dark of the cabin behind him while he struggled in vain to keep all those people alive.

    • @vincentm.7462
      @vincentm.7462 2 роки тому +7

      They didn’t do everything right! If he told him about the fuel dump sooner it might have given them the precious time they needed to survive. Should have just dumped it over Halifax

    • @user-qz2ld3vt2d
      @user-qz2ld3vt2d 2 роки тому +19

      The japan airlines flight was chilling as well. The pilots tried everything to control that plane for half an hour, but it was literally impossible

    • @kerrynoaro9065
      @kerrynoaro9065 2 роки тому +20

      @@vincentm.7462 no matter what they did, they would not have made it to Halifax. They might have had an attempt at ditching the plane, but it would have likely resulted in massive loss of life.

    • @metalgearsolidsnake6978
      @metalgearsolidsnake6978 2 роки тому +3

      see germanwings crash some years ago, also very terrifying.. or alaska airlines crash

  • @andrewdillon7837
    @andrewdillon7837 3 роки тому +78

    What is so metal ,,the co-pilot had molten aluminium raining down from above him,,but still kept trying to fly,,the pilot had succumbed to fumes whilst fighting the fire,,worse is,,they were dead as soon as they smelt smoke,,but didnt know it,,kept calm,,fought till the end,,
    Heroes, unsuccessful heroes,,RIP

    • @tomwilson1155
      @tomwilson1155 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah both pilot seats had melted plastic from the burning upper panels that dripped down on them. Horrifying!

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 3 роки тому +3

      That was some fire. Aluminum melts at 1221▫F/660▫C.

    • @arvantsaraihan5777
      @arvantsaraihan5777 3 роки тому +5

      @@twistedyogert one report said that the cockpit temperature reached 700°C at one point.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 3 роки тому +1

      @@arvantsaraihan5777 Like I said, "That was some fire." :P

    • @Scratchingforcash
      @Scratchingforcash 3 роки тому

      @travpoet “‘’! Yeah,.,? I agree.,!-

  • @jameshaviland6183
    @jameshaviland6183 Рік тому +29

    I met Ian Shaw here in Nova Scotia. Since this show was made, he left Nova Scotia and joined his wife in retirement in Spain. The restaurant still operates and bears his name. There’s something about standing by that monument.

  • @RichartEgli
    @RichartEgli 3 роки тому +640

    R.I.P Urs Zimmermann, my parents where friends with him and I knew him and his family. Thanks for uploading and remembering this tragedy.

    • @justhuman24
      @justhuman24 3 роки тому +31

      My sincere condolences

    • @bigdaddydaddy3203
      @bigdaddydaddy3203 3 роки тому +24

      What a sad sad shame bless all their souls

    • @nenblom
      @nenblom 3 роки тому +5

      Amen

    • @nenblom
      @nenblom 3 роки тому +3

      It’s crazy that an IFE would bring down a modern airliner. RIP

    • @zidanehadeed9229
      @zidanehadeed9229 3 роки тому +4

      Do you remember what he was like as a person?

  • @borealiswan2363
    @borealiswan2363 3 роки тому +352

    My mam nearly took that flight .... we talked so much about it .... tears are coming to my eyes ......
    And I remember she had taken that flight the year before because it was so convenient, direct to Geneva ....

    • @Hashslingingslasher-
      @Hashslingingslasher- 3 роки тому +24

      I feel appreciative for you and your mumma that she didn't take that flight

    • @jzk3919
      @jzk3919 3 роки тому +2

      There are few cues that indicate possibility of underlying and predestined causes. Was this during the Clintons` presidency?

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 роки тому +13

      @@jzk3919 wtf

    • @gab1606
      @gab1606 3 роки тому +6

      GODS BLESSING HE IS PROTECTING YOUR MOM (sorry if you don’t believe in god, I’m just glad your mom is okay)

    • @pp3k3jamail
      @pp3k3jamail 3 роки тому

      Lies

  • @samersijbesma5708
    @samersijbesma5708 3 роки тому +389

    I can only imagine what the controller went through that night not being able to do anything and the PTSD that resulted from that night. I am continually surprised that the pilots didn't just land ASAP at the first wiff of smoke. Rather be safe than sorry.

    • @John.0523
      @John.0523 3 роки тому +54

      they just took off with a full load of fuel. in their mind there was light smoke so they could wait a few minutes to dump the fuel instead of a heavy landing or if it was a crash landing, a huge fire ball. also the documentary said they were way too high to land right away.

    • @tabeajanus8687
      @tabeajanus8687 3 роки тому +30

      they wouldn't even have made it to the airport, or maybe even land, they would've crashed either way

    • @wernerfoerster3666
      @wernerfoerster3666 3 роки тому +5

      PTSD??? lol ... how soft is your generation?

    • @John.0523
      @John.0523 3 роки тому +84

      @@wernerfoerster3666 hundreds died under his watch. he probably faulted himself and felt guilty and horrible, it’s sad really. yes he could have had ptsd that doesn’t make him soft

    • @wernerfoerster3666
      @wernerfoerster3666 3 роки тому +2

      @@John.0523
      He wasn't in any way shape or form responsible ... comment makes no sense

  • @FLT111
    @FLT111 2 роки тому +42

    Fun Fact: At 4:40 if you look closely, that's the overhead panel of an Airbus A320/330/340 cockpit. This same panel was used in an earlier episode of MAYDAY called Flying On Empty. The panel is supposedly there to represent "circuit breakers". This is what happens when you work in aviation folks..you pick up the small details!

    • @bernlin2000
      @bernlin2000 2 роки тому +5

      Does it drive you crazy when they get details wrong, like the infamous scenes where the narrator says one "found at crash site" airplane part, but they shows another? 😂

    • @kevinmalone3210
      @kevinmalone3210 Рік тому +8

      It saves on money for their budget when making these videos. I saw them recycle a woman pilot who died in a USAir MidWest flight 5481 crash, be brought back to life, and get used again for a ValueJet flight in 1996, and ended up getting killed once more when it crashed in Everglades.

    • @Illusionyary
      @Illusionyary Рік тому +12

      @@kevinmalone3210 once you watch enough of these you start to recognize the same actors. There's one guy who plays a terrorist in one episode and a captain of a flight in another, lol.

    • @orionxtc1119
      @orionxtc1119 Рік тому +6

      Even so, these documentaries are excellent and riveting to watch

    • @muslimcel4581
      @muslimcel4581 Рік тому

      @@kevinmalone3210 😂😂

  • @ErinJeanette
    @ErinJeanette 3 роки тому +386

    The amount of pieces they had to put back together is insane. This one is especially horrific.

    • @2vintage68
      @2vintage68 3 роки тому +24

      Impact of 350 G's broke the plane into 3 million pieces. The end was instantaneous for the passengers although they were aware the plane was going down. I agree this is especially horrific for a lot of reasons. Swiss air went down too.

    • @firstsoldier4257
      @firstsoldier4257 3 роки тому +3

      and now think of the Malaysian airlines B777 ...they saying that mashine is intact max 3 big peaces bottom of the Indian Ocean
      if goes down like Switzerland many peaces have to be find
      but peaces even language not find .....so he ditched the airplane !

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +3

      @@2vintage68 Yes. Out of business.

    • @PabloGonzalez-hv3td
      @PabloGonzalez-hv3td 3 роки тому +8

      I served in the Canadian Navy a few years after this and heard stories of what the responders encountered. It was grisly. People forget that the same thing that happened to the plane happened to the passengers.

    • @bobgillis1137
      @bobgillis1137 3 роки тому +2

      True that. If there is an upside, it is that their deaths were quick and not, (aside from the crew) by fire.

  • @ruzzelladrian907
    @ruzzelladrian907 3 роки тому +181

    I feel so sad for the air traffic controller, it was out of his control that he didn't get the transmission from the pilots that they needed to do an emergency landing. The fire already burned all of the wires on-board the plane and its equipment.

    • @patagualianmostly7437
      @patagualianmostly7437 2 роки тому +14

      Even if he had....the fuel dump would have made no difference....they would never have made the runway...check the time logs.

    • @Jack_The_Ripper_Here
      @Jack_The_Ripper_Here Рік тому

      Hmmmm pretty much his fault he sent them back to dump fuel, he killed everyone on board doing this. He should be charged for murder

    • @120-e5h
      @120-e5h Рік тому +2

      The ATC was a cause to this accident.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 місяців тому

      @@120-e5hthe pilots never told him what was actually going on like he kept saying based on the info he was given he thought there was no emergency

  • @jackiem3740
    @jackiem3740 3 роки тому +172

    That poor Dad was still grieving at the time of this documentary. Bless him and his business.

    • @Planefan1000
      @Planefan1000 3 роки тому +7

      Shaw's Landing is doing well for itself - average 4.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Apparently they've changed owners since then

    • @Cookie-zz2mg
      @Cookie-zz2mg 3 роки тому +23

      i think no parent ever truly stops grieving, they just learn to live with it.

    • @donc7984
      @donc7984 2 роки тому +5

      A wound to the heart more often than not, will never heal.

    • @dimitriskotsks389
      @dimitriskotsks389 Рік тому +2

      There is a german documentary on youtube about swissair 111.His daughter wasn't suppose to be on that flight.A tennis player, Marc Rosset is his name,cancelled his ticket and stephanie shaw took his place.Fate plays painful games sometimes

    • @jackiem3740
      @jackiem3740 Рік тому

      @@dimitriskotsks389 WOW!

  • @Ad_Astra_321
    @Ad_Astra_321 3 роки тому +71

    I wish Bill Pickrell & His Colleague peace. There really was nothing they could do. How awful for them to live with all of this

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 3 роки тому +632

    I’m no aviation expert
    But I got smoke in the cockpit
    I make a straight line for the nearest runway

    • @dynasty0019
      @dynasty0019 3 роки тому +123

      In this case it wouldn't have made any difference. If the crew went straight in to Halifax instead of circling to dump fuel, the only thing that would've changed is the location of crash site at 5 miles out instead of 20.

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 3 роки тому +8

      @@dynasty0019 thx.

    • @David-Zita
      @David-Zita 3 роки тому +70

      its not that easy, brother there are procedures to be done. the fire was just rapid they did everything correct.

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 3 роки тому +29

      @@David-Zita cool. Just seems like a long time to land.
      “I’d rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air
      Than be in the air wishing I was on the ground.”

    • @christopherhennessey8991
      @christopherhennessey8991 3 роки тому +9

      @@dynasty0019 Might they have made it if they were already dumping fuel enroute to Halifax ?

  • @neaarmstrong6784
    @neaarmstrong6784 3 роки тому +17

    I don't know why everyone in the comments is like should've done this, should've done that, they could've . Like I'm sorry, since when are you a qualified pilot in 1998, half of you have not the slightest clue about planes.

  • @solmy92
    @solmy92 3 роки тому +58

    I don't know how I will be able to get on a plane after binge watching these documentaries :/

    • @Itried20takennames
      @Itried20takennames 3 роки тому +7

      I suspect you don’t mean it literally, but an average of well under 50 Americans die in commercial plane crashes, compared to 50,000 in car crashes, and flying is also vastly safer per mile travelled. For all emergencies, more than 50% of passengers are fine. That is called a heuristic….(as opposed to a statistic), where because the news knows people like unusual stories (no one would watch a video on annual car crash fatalities), so they focus on the unusual, but the many stories eventually make people think the unusual events (plane crashes) are more common.

    • @jacquepf7442
      @jacquepf7442 3 роки тому +2

      Me neither. I am binge watching for 6 hours now

    • @jacquepf7442
      @jacquepf7442 3 роки тому

      @pepe now I will move on to watching UFO sightings 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jacquepf7442
      @jacquepf7442 3 роки тому

      @pepe really? what are the odds? Lol. I have to work all day the next 2 days so I will catch up on my days off. Can’t wait! Enjoy your vids! 😊

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla 3 роки тому +1

      @@Itried20takennames Also people don’t realize that even when planes have any problems in flight they rarely ever crash as a result.A LOT has to go wrong to bring a plane down.I’ve personally been on 2 flights that suffered mechanical or electrical issues.One had a stuck landing gear that was somehow resolved in flight and landed safely.The second had an electrical issue that was also resolved in flight but the crew were forced to make an emergency landing due to regulations even though it wasn’t anything critical.

  • @usmale4915
    @usmale4915 3 роки тому +114

    Horrific, just horrific. I always find tears in my eyes when Mr. Ian Shaw is speaking of the loss of his daughter. It's so tragic. Thank you for the upload.

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +7

      Mr Shaw has a place here now. To be close to his daughter. The best and brightest of America and Europe were aboard that plane. Including a couple who Dr Anthony Fauci would have known. Dr Johnathan Mann and Mary Lou Clements, his wife. The top HIV/AIDS researchers. And "a Saudi Prince". His family made a donation to build the new mosque here .

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 3 роки тому +3

      @@michaelrmurphy2734 Yet he left his wife to do that. Didn't she count at all?

    • @trentcruise3084
      @trentcruise3084 3 роки тому +1

      @@keerthivasannambiraju955 He ran the Restaurant for 8 years then sold out and moved to Spain with his new Wife.

    • @vanhelsingdracula2294
      @vanhelsingdracula2294 3 роки тому +1

      Went to Spain after 8 years, that is correct.
      But not with new wife.
      He never separated from his wife Gudula and in Spain they went there together, to live out their last years together again.
      His son Olivier became a doctor and worked for the Red Cross back then.

  • @humblehombre9904
    @humblehombre9904 3 роки тому +106

    I am relieved to know that regardless the plane could never have made it. It takes away the frustration one feels about the methodical, almost unconcerned attitudes of the pilots. I am not criticizing them in ANY WAY! They did a fantastic and heroic job. Who could keep calm, and actually read instructions while this went on. They were trained to do checklists, instead of using their instincts. So, so sad. They did EVERYTHING they were taught, to their detriment.

    • @alexmacdonald5087
      @alexmacdonald5087 2 роки тому +9

      Honestly, as a Haligonian, and fairly regular user of Halifax - Stanfield international, our airport is in a very forest covered area, you can go straight into trees from the runway, I don't think landing with all their fuel and on fire would have ended much better

    • @jlb8094
      @jlb8094 Рік тому

      ​@largebiff1743ok captain

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 місяців тому

      @largebiff1743so basically they did everything right and still wouldn’t have made it

  • @staceyjones1769
    @staceyjones1769 3 роки тому +78

    So much respect for the air traffic controller for taking part in this ❤️

  • @raphaellavictoria01
    @raphaellavictoria01 3 роки тому +44

    That shot where the bin full of tiny airplane pieces is dumped onto the table is so striking. It illustrates the extent of the tragedy. Just horrible.

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 3 роки тому +176

    I saw this on approach flying over the city and then I saw it when it was heading back out to sea to dump fuel. Found out the next day it crashed. Weird feeling.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 3 роки тому +22

      I've always wondered if some planes I see fly overhead would crash. Must be a very weird feeling

    • @Del-Canada
      @Del-Canada 3 роки тому +6

      @@visionist7 We were having a few beer on the front lawn and thought it weird to see it going back out to sea. Next day found out it was dumping fuel.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 3 роки тому +2

      Oh sad! I know you didn't actually witness the crash, but that's too close for comfort. I used to have nightmares about witnessing plane crashes. I'm glad they were nightmares and not premonitions! It has to be very surreal to know you saw those pilots' last moments.

    • @Del-Canada
      @Del-Canada 3 роки тому +2

      @@scootermom1791 Halifax is kind of a city of death. Look up the Halifax explosion sometime. Also, I can see the "J Dawson" Titanic grave from my living room window. I live within walking distance of all three Titanic cemeteries. Some personal Titanic videos on my channel if interested.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 3 роки тому +2

      @@Del-Canada Definitely! Will check them out ASAP. Thanks!

  • @tubularfrog
    @tubularfrog 3 роки тому +95

    My heart aches for Ian Shaw and all of the others who lost their loved ones on this ill-fated flight. I hope they can find solace in the fact that their loved ones didn't die in vain. That people now are traveling much safer based on the investigations and new retrofitting of aircraft. It's really sad that it takes disasters like this to make air travel safer. I wish them all the best.

    • @tsarbomba1
      @tsarbomba1 3 роки тому +5

      Many years afterwards he sold the inn and moved to France with his wife.

  • @kessiawright1710
    @kessiawright1710 3 роки тому +44

    I live in Nova Scotia. I remember when it happened. I stayed up nearly all night watching the news hoping there were survivors even though they hit the water too fast. They almost made it.

  • @NewyorkRican2191
    @NewyorkRican2191 3 роки тому +104

    Rest in Peace Ingrid Acevedo. She was a great woman and Trail blazer in her field. She was such a beautiful soul and friend. You are truly missed!!

  • @SynthD
    @SynthD 3 роки тому +176

    Even as an amateur electrical engineer, I know there are five main components to a “healthy” circuit. A power source, a load, conductors, a switch, and a circuit protection device. This IFES (in-flight entertainment system) seemed to be missing the last two. How this ever ended up in an aircraft is mind blowing.

    • @plhebel1
      @plhebel1 2 роки тому +26

      most likely the system was rushed so 1st class would be happy with their toys and secondly the weight , I understand that thermo-protection in circuits, depending on amps/voltage/resistance vary in size and weight but when on an aircraft lite weight is always king.

    • @SynthD
      @SynthD 2 роки тому +25

      @@plhebel1 making it from point A to point B is king. The loss of an aircraft plus the lawsuits that follow is the most expensive thing an airline can face.

    • @jukee67
      @jukee67 2 роки тому

      Left out possibly on purpose?

    • @patagualianmostly7437
      @patagualianmostly7437 2 роки тому +14

      I think adding anything, to any type-approved transport, is risky in itself: Corners will be cut. The plane was approved as "standard" then people start putting accessories on that negated the testing procedures from the manufacturers. It's bound to end in tears.

    • @orionxtc1119
      @orionxtc1119 Рік тому +2

      Indeed.... because it was a new element to flying, I suspect the enthusiasm for installing the entertainment system blinded them to dangers....

  • @johndryden9553
    @johndryden9553 Рік тому +17

    As a pilot all I can say is that a fire in-flight is one of the most terrifying emergencies a flight crew can face. In this instance, doubly so as the smoke and fire were in the cockpit. When they lost the electricals and the pilot was overcome with smoke the flight was doomed. The crew did everything they could have done. R.I.P.

  • @cseguin
    @cseguin 3 роки тому +53

    Closed circuit video cameras should have become standard years ago . . . cameras throughout the aircraft and on the outside with a feed back to a monitor on the deck so the crew has even more information to work with . . . cameras should be made mandatory, period.

    • @JavierBonillaC
      @JavierBonillaC 3 роки тому +7

      I have always thought this and have argued it several times here on UA-cam only to have pilots say back “everything you need to know is in the black boxes. There should be 40 cameras, in the tail, the landing gear, the bathrooms, the wings, the engines, the cabin, then cockpit, the food carts if necessary. Great comment.

    • @cseguin
      @cseguin 3 роки тому +8

      @@JavierBonillaC I'm surprised there aren't a cadre of pilots wanting this to happen . . . I've received a similar response to this idea from some people - they say all the extra weight wouldn't make it feasible . . . and yet here we have an example (in this video) of a plane decked out with an entertainment system for passengers that outdo anything I've owned in my home . . . how much do all those monitors weigh and the all the additional wiring? Far more than a couple of monitors on the deck and the wiring running to a few dozen cameras . . . never mind the fact that the black box is used by the accident investigators, _not_ the pilots whilst they are addressing an emergency . . . FFS - a pilot _should_ know this - black boxes record things, that's it - they don't help in any way troubleshoot an emergency. The emergency in this situation could have been handled with a wet finger if the crew had a way to _see_ where the smoke was coming from - a small camera nestled above the deck would provide the means to _see_ what's going on instead of guessing and wasting precious minutes and seconds.

    • @JavierBonillaC
      @JavierBonillaC 3 роки тому +2

      grin correct!

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 3 роки тому +2

      40 cammeras would cost $2000+, and hooking them to the planes network would cost $300+ more per lane, therefore not economical
      (no im not being ironic, i fi ever buy a plane im using this idea)

    • @BlackFoxFalcon
      @BlackFoxFalcon 3 роки тому +9

      @@cseguin As a Pilot myself, I disagree. Cameras are already mounted in certain aircraft. But most of the times, they are for entertainment or for the Pilots to montior who wants to enter the Cockpit.
      If there is a fire in the Cargo Bay for example, the fire detection and suppression systems will engage. A big, red message will appear on either the EICAS or ECAM telling me exactly where the fire is occuring at that moment. From there on we can start the counter measures. The sensors that detect and alert are incredibly sensitive. They will go off even if there isn`t a fire yet. So, even if there would be a camera mounted, the crew probably wouldn`t see that much at first glance.
      Plus, a lot of systems have fuses or CBs. If there is an overheat in the wiring of the Galley Bus for instance, CBs will start to pop out disconneting the affected system from the electrical supply. And while CBs can be reset, Fuses cannot. If a fuse melts, that system is down for good.
      Modern aircraft are jam-packed with safety and alerting systems. Mounting cameras would simply be overkill. Especially outside where they would increase drag.
      It`s not black and white folks.

  • @theblondeone8426
    @theblondeone8426 3 роки тому +74

    My dad died in a sudden bike accident and I felt it before i knew it had happened to one of my prents - I was ten years old - theres something about knowing when someone very close to you dies- i still cannot explain it neither can my mom and Im 35 now - idk if they visit you or its instinct or what

    • @bealong8718
      @bealong8718 3 роки тому +22

      theres another documentary on this channel, about a man being sucked out due to a fault with the underbelly door..... his mum was in NZ sound asleep when the accident happened. She woke up in a fog, and her son was standing at the end of her bed, jacket draped over his should, with a small smile on his face. She was paralyzed and couldn't speak. When she woke up in the morning she mentioned it to her husband, at the moment their phone rang from airlines to advise son missing, likely dead. I think you're right, there is a soul connection that let's you know when they pass, often you feel those things but dont know what it is, until that news is delivered. Sorry for your loss xx

    • @nevillec5252
      @nevillec5252 3 роки тому +8

      When my dad died, I was on the other side of the world in Canada, just about to go flying with a new student. We were in a Cessna 152 (a small two-seater), still parked on the ramp with the engine off. There seemed to be a sudden gust of wind out of nowhere, and the plane shook quite violently - but I got a weird happy feeling.
      My student was afraid, but I said not to worry, it was just a gust of wind. I looked around, but there was actually no wind (dead wind-sock), and nothing else shaking. I was sort of spooked, but put it out of my mind as we prepped for engine start.
      About 10 minutes later, I got the call.
      My dad was a retired airline pilot. I think he was happy to see that I was about to go flying. If that was him.

    • @aliceelrod8344
      @aliceelrod8344 3 роки тому +3

      I’m so sorry for your loss.

    • @thereisnoother1502
      @thereisnoother1502 3 роки тому +4

      I think God gives this grace of knowing at times to help us deal with it. He is the Father of Compassion.

    • @davidnavarro4821
      @davidnavarro4821 3 роки тому +3

      I’ve seen many reportages and articles on tragic deaths. Parents said they literally could « feel » something was very wrong before they were informed something happened to their loved ones.

  • @TheKetsa
    @TheKetsa 3 роки тому +34

    The only mystery is why DuPont cable coating that was not only flammable but also emitted a terrible toxic and dense smoke was used in the first place.

  • @kila11
    @kila11 3 роки тому +59

    My Best friend has a cabin out near St. Margaret's Bay. Last time I visited him he took me to the Swiss Air memorial site. Beautiful and heartbreaking. As we were looking out over the water, we saw a giant rainbow overhead. I couldn't help but cry.