Hey Everyone! We normally dont upload on the weekends, but I wanted to make sure we get all profession guides out before launch! Thanks so much for watching! I hope you enjoy
The thing that always turned me off professions over the years you couldn't really turn a profit by buying mats to crafting and sell, as mats tends to cost more than the finished product most of the time. Sure there was gold to be made, but usually only if you went in hard and early, which resulted in people sinking tons of gold into maxing out fast and then making it back before the price goes down too much. By the time the average player catches up, there is not much profit to be made, and without farming your own mats you mostly craft at a loss. I did some herb/alchemy to craft my own flasks, until I realized it was better to just sell the herbs and buy flasks, which feels so backwards. Crafting should add value. With this new system, will this change you think?
Unsure tbh. If ur picking ur own flowers to increase flower quality so ur not buying most of those herbs urself and thus continue to increase ur alchemy quality you'll stand out and have ur pots bought. I think there'll be potential you just gotta put the time into trying it out and checking in on the auction house on what makes more gold ur high quality herbs (which you'll need for high quality alchemy) or ur high quality alchemy products.
Thanks for all of your hard work! I can tell these take a lot of effort to not only learn but also to then teach all of us. And you are a very thorough teacher so good job! Question(s)! How much do these profession stats weigh? +60 to multicraft equates to what %, like is that a lot or not? Can you max out a profession stat to essentially guarantee you multicraft something? Some classes have secondary stats that are very static with (x) amount of mastery points will yield (y) amount of mastery % until they start reaching diminishing returns... is it similar with profession stats or no? I hope my question makes sense.
Great Videos! They have been very informative! I especially liked that you spoke of alts! I've decided 1 or 2 alts will become the most efficient inker, prospector, cloth weaver etc. This way hopefully I maximize my output of raw mats sent to them for processing.
Great guide! Regional ah really makes this xpac seem like a struggle to make gold. I feel like I’m on the tail end of every rush. I’ve lost 1.5mil investing into all of the professions and some patterns. The work order system is underutilized right now so that’s part of the issue. Hopefully I can make it back and then some. Your vids help for sure. Thanks!
Yes its on its way! trying to get all of the professions out before launch... one may overlap with launch but it will be here within the next week and a half!
Alchemy is pretty much the only profession ever worth taking. It's always useful. The only other one even worth talking about is maybe engineering just for the fun of it. My main will always be an alchemist and my alts double gather.
Alchemy looking very very good, torn between trying something new or sticking to Blacksmithing. I do not mind the rng so much, hopefully if I go this route I will not be so unlucky. Thank you for the vid bro, very thorough.
I'm planning to main gatherings while leveling up my character, and later change into Alchemy when I reach 70. My question is if I forget a profession and learn another, and maybe change back into the old profession later, do I keep all the skill points and recipes of the forgetton ones?
If you drop a profession you will lose all your progress (besides Specialization progression), so if you have rare recipes, you are lvl 100/100, you will lose all recipes and go back to 0/100
Ohband thanks to you, 2months i been playing , i since i am a gathering, i never knew i had a daily quest/weekly, and i figure/looked up what item was .. the item you bring to guy and get knowledge, but did not know bout master and daily/weekly un tell you said.. a d the rare drops... i gather so much, i just fiure someingbgoibg to drop, lol
Thanks a lot for the video. Very well explained. Although i'm not quite sure i understood how this is good for alt armies. Is it because you get access to a lot of different recipes or did i misunderstand something?
Alchemy is decent for alts due to the transmute cooldowns - granted you may have to pay for the BoE recipes, or just farm them on your main for your alts, orrrr just use that one transmute daily that you get from leveling, but they can be helpful if specific awakened(s) are worth more than others
I'm a tad bit concerned with Alchemy. I feel like the supply is going to be incredibly high with all the stuff that you can make and the specs themselves so profits are going to be incredibly low.
Quality is a big deal here. You will notice potions (and phials) require ALOT of skill to craft at max quality. Only the people who really specialize and have access to a lot of knowledge points will be able to do that
The main reason i made myb1st alt, was to hold main item/mats, then it became another bank, then guildie said i need to go by som potions for NAXX, thats i said i can have my alt buy and send in mail so you dont have to go to town, after that, he be came my auction man/bank, made another toon to herb.. and so on, i had all slots full, then i liked playing, so they became max level, but all got nerf doen to 30-35
„Hochenblume“ in fact looks like a made-up German word. „Blume“ literally means flower. „Hoch“ means „up“, but it can also mean „high“ (as in Highmountain). But you wouldn’t call it Hochenblume in German. Wowhead tells me it’s actually „Hochblume“ in the German localization which sounds a bit more like it could be a real thing.
I have planned to focus on transmutates with one of my alts, however, I am a little bit disapointed if there will not be any other than elements available. For example, cooldowns to create better bars or something like that.
It’s the traditional “element” style transmutes that we’ve seen in the past with Primals and Eternals, etc. Maybe we will get something better in a later patch!
This morning I tried 40x advanced potion alchemical research and didn't unlock a single recipe... Still don't have the ultimate power potion and wasted 200 artisans mettle. Feels absolutely awful :(
@@Penguinr2gt yeah but is this normal that you don't get a single recipe discovered via advance experimentation at all? I spent at least 300 artisan's mettle on advance phial experiments and didn't get anything. You tried basic one and got 2 discoveries out of 3 tries. I thought that maybe it's because "basic" is easier but then I watch another alchemy video and another guy gets like 3 recipies out of 5 tries with "Advance potion experiment". So the only difference here is that nobody I've seen tried "Advanced phial experiments". To me it looks like a serious bug and nothing related to luck when sombody is 50-66% successfull on 3-5 tries and others 0% successfull on ~60 tries. Did anyone else got screwed with "advanced phial experiments" or got lucky?
So i can make my Main with 2 porfessions and my alt beeing a herb/ore farmer? or whats the best setup? iam pretty lazy with professions so i guess Alchemy only ?
Yea! I recommend grouping two crafting professions together and then mine/herb together on another. You never have to focus on professions, so even if you dont plan to use it much, picking up a second crafting to go along with alchemy will be worth it!
This is just the guide I was looking for, thank you, but I have a question: Would you recommend to buy ASAP the profession equipment? Before making any craft? Or it's not that important during leveling the profession? Thanks.
Hey! Thanks so much for watching. In terms of equipment, it will likely be a later-purchase than an early one. Theres two types of each equipment - the BiS version (showcased in these videos) and then a lesser quality BoE version. Depending on the profession, when leveling you will likely create these lesser versions yourself and then you can just use them to benefit yourself, or in the case like alchemy you can simply buy the basic versions off the AH whenever you want for an extra boost. I dont think you need to buy any sort of equipment until youve gone thru your initial leveling (1-65, 1-50, 1-60, etc. depending on the profession)! hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions!
Really depends on what you want to get out of it. Are you a raider/high end content player that will want to make their own gear? if so, I recommend picking up that specific armor profession. Do you want to make your own potions and benefit more from them? I recommend alchemy. Do you want the utility that engineering brings? Pick up engineering. Really cant go wrong with any!
Ive heard that leveling and this xpac being alt friendly is apparently going to be a thing so it might not hurt to lv one or two more toons if you're REALLY wanting some more professions to choose from and utilize. Gathering doesnt hurt since theres the quality system. Like she said tho if ur into harder content u may want to invest in ur main toons armor/wep specialty whether its tailoring, LW, or BS to be able to make high item lv gear. If u want it to be simple but potentially effective with gold making id definitely recommend alchemy and/or maybe even inscription since theyre capable of making knowledge books that will sell as well as a potential powerful trinket. Alchemists can make these trinks that synergize with ur potion use so that might be into ur consideration with ur main. Hope that helped. Go with what u want really tho! :)
i assume the transmutes is a daily cooldown baseline? if so then im gonna get this on as many toons as i can, and prop tailoring on the rest, im gonna go all in alt army!
hi, was wondering if the phials/potions are classified as reagents? they got the "crafting reagent" blue text. If so, does Chemical Synthesis (the multicraft tree for reagents) affect them?
Hello! Thank you for your video. When you say that knowledge points and trees are permanent and you can not change it. Does that mean if we go into potion experimentation you can never switch to batch production when you unlock all the recipes? Or do you know if you can pay gold for some item to reset? Thank you!
You can unlock everything, its not "pick this or that" - you just need enough knowledge points to learn it all. You cant reset any points once you use them
If you are someone with alts, you will likely want to set up Transmutes on your alts so you can allocate all your main's points to something a bit more "advanced" - however, if you dont have alts, go for it on your main! Theres not really a right or wrong option!
Currently I'm in Phial and was wonder what do I want to have on my tools the optional reagent? I was thinking Multi but not sure if thats good (I plan to mainly make pots and phial for myself or guild members)
Theres no right or wrong answer - Multicraft and resourefulness will be good in the future once you can guarantee yourself Q3 potions - if you cant do that yet, Inspiration is very strong
Do we need lvl 70 to use our alts for daily cooldowns? Also on the cooldowns do we have to login every 12 hrs for example to use them or can we craft 5 every 3 days or something like this
ehm.. ok i get it they whana make specializations.. fine.. but can u get both potion spec and flask spec to maxx at some point? or u just need to 2 alchemmists if u whana get the best potions and best flasks?
You can learn everything, just takes times as you need to gain knowledge points - that’s why you can mix and match as much as you want because eventually you’ll have it all
I can't stand Dragonflight alchemy. The 4 hour lockout is absolutely absurd, whoever thought of that should get a new job at the IRS. It's just so fun, engaging, and rewarding to spend hours collecting mats just to be locked out of experimenting, which is the only way I can gain exp or new recipes. I'm torn between swapping to jewel crafting and hitting 50 in two hours or unsubbing all together. Disrespectful of the time I have to spend
No! Other transmutes are BoE recipes and actually are really cheap on the AH on most servers! Just look them up to see their price and you can get them easily!
@@Penguinr2gt Ah okay! Thanks and you're videos are the best. Do you know the names of one I should strive for at some point for a bunch of alts? Thanks love you
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Hey Everyone! We normally dont upload on the weekends, but I wanted to make sure we get all profession guides out before launch! Thanks so much for watching! I hope you enjoy
Nice, I am happy you released this right after the tailoring one since this is where the rest of my questions were.
Thank you for all your efforts!
Thank you for watching them! I hope they help!
Really enjoy your stuff penguin! Thanks, I’ve found myself just watching all your content recently even if I’m not doing it. Thanks!
Thanks so much Joe! That means alot, I hope you are enjoying Dragonflight!
Nice! I missed this upload over the weekend but it was right here waiting for me when I got to work.
hahah thanks for watching David!
Awesome video! I have a soft spot for alchemy because it is always in high demand.
Informative and straight forward i dig it. bit heavy on 'ultimately' but the harry potter reference makes up for it lol
Fun fact: When you say Hey guys ...I automatically say ... it's Penguin here :'D
The thing that always turned me off professions over the years you couldn't really turn a profit by buying mats to crafting and sell, as mats tends to cost more than the finished product most of the time. Sure there was gold to be made, but usually only if you went in hard and early, which resulted in people sinking tons of gold into maxing out fast and then making it back before the price goes down too much.
By the time the average player catches up, there is not much profit to be made, and without farming your own mats you mostly craft at a loss.
I did some herb/alchemy to craft my own flasks, until I realized it was better to just sell the herbs and buy flasks, which feels so backwards. Crafting should add value.
With this new system, will this change you think?
Unsure tbh. If ur picking ur own flowers to increase flower quality so ur not buying most of those herbs urself and thus continue to increase ur alchemy quality you'll stand out and have ur pots bought. I think there'll be potential you just gotta put the time into trying it out and checking in on the auction house on what makes more gold ur high quality herbs (which you'll need for high quality alchemy) or ur high quality alchemy products.
Thanks for all of your hard work! I can tell these take a lot of effort to not only learn but also to then teach all of us. And you are a very thorough teacher so good job! Question(s)! How much do these profession stats weigh? +60 to multicraft equates to what %, like is that a lot or not? Can you max out a profession stat to essentially guarantee you multicraft something? Some classes have secondary stats that are very static with (x) amount of mastery points will yield (y) amount of mastery % until they start reaching diminishing returns... is it similar with profession stats or no? I hope my question makes sense.
Awesome video thanks for sharing! This is exactly what I was looking for, I was so confused about the new system.
Glad it was helpful!
Would love a video like this for blacksmithing / tailoring! great video
Tailoring is already out! Blacksmithing will be here soon
Great Videos! They have been very informative! I especially liked that you spoke of alts! I've decided 1 or 2 alts will become the most efficient inker, prospector, cloth weaver etc. This way hopefully I maximize my output of raw mats sent to them for processing.
Thanks Todd!
Great guide! Regional ah really makes this xpac seem like a struggle to make gold. I feel like I’m on the tail end of every rush. I’ve lost 1.5mil investing into all of the professions and some patterns. The work order system is underutilized right now so that’s part of the issue. Hopefully I can make it back and then some. Your vids help for sure. Thanks!
Your overviews are always good and thorough. Are you doing a lw one soon?
Yes its on its way! trying to get all of the professions out before launch... one may overlap with launch but it will be here within the next week and a half!
@@Penguinr2gt awesome. Dont overwork yourself!
Alchemy is pretty much the only profession ever worth taking. It's always useful. The only other one even worth talking about is maybe engineering just for the fun of it. My main will always be an alchemist and my alts double gather.
Alchemy is great for your main! Good luck!
@Penguinr2gt Might want to add a note in your pinned comment about the new tool enchantments. As always, great guide!!
Subbed, thanks for this all your vids are very informative.
Thank you Anthony!
Alchemy looking very very good, torn between trying something new or sticking to Blacksmithing. I do not mind the rng so much, hopefully if I go this route I will not be so unlucky. Thank you for the vid bro, very thorough.
My Blacksmithing video will be released tomorrow (tuesday), so hopefully that can help you decide! Either way, I think youll have a great time
I'm planning to main gatherings while leveling up my character, and later change into Alchemy when I reach 70. My question is if I forget a profession and learn another, and maybe change back into the old profession later, do I keep all the skill points and recipes of the forgetton ones?
If you drop a profession you will lose all your progress (besides Specialization progression), so if you have rare recipes, you are lvl 100/100, you will lose all recipes and go back to 0/100
Thank you so much for the great video!
I am soooo unlucky when it comes to experimenting lol..
I am too! Haha
i hope that crafting will be fun again. in shadowlands it was .... :(
I think Dragonflight will be a blast!
Ohband thanks to you, 2months i been playing , i since i am a gathering, i never knew i had a daily quest/weekly, and i figure/looked up what item was .. the item you bring to guy and get knowledge, but did not know bout master and daily/weekly un tell you said.. a d the rare drops... i gather so much, i just fiure someingbgoibg to drop, lol
Thanks a lot for the video. Very well explained. Although i'm not quite sure i understood how this is good for alt armies. Is it because you get access to a lot of different recipes or did i misunderstand something?
Alchemy is decent for alts due to the transmute cooldowns - granted you may have to pay for the BoE recipes, or just farm them on your main for your alts, orrrr just use that one transmute daily that you get from leveling, but they can be helpful if specific awakened(s) are worth more than others
@@Penguinr2gt That makes a lot more sense! Thank you so much!
I love the video just wish we could see our character creating the potions :
If you get the addon Blizzmove, you can rescale the profession windows! Thats what I use in these videos to make them alot bigger than normal!
@@Penguinr2gt awesome thank you!
I'm a tad bit concerned with Alchemy. I feel like the supply is going to be incredibly high with all the stuff that you can make and the specs themselves so profits are going to be incredibly low.
Quality is a big deal here. You will notice potions (and phials) require ALOT of skill to craft at max quality. Only the people who really specialize and have access to a lot of knowledge points will be able to do that
that's what resourcefulness and multicraft are for, more product with less materials. A maxed out profession will do more with less.
can't wait for blacksmith guide
Ahh nice informations :3 . Love u ^^
The main reason i made myb1st alt, was to hold main item/mats, then it became another bank, then guildie said i need to go by som potions for NAXX, thats i said i can have my alt buy and send in mail so you dont have to go to town, after that, he be came my auction man/bank, made another toon to herb.. and so on, i had all slots full, then i liked playing, so they became max level, but all got nerf doen to 30-35
After i saw someone in trade,( LF blacksmith to make Molten primal spellblade, my mats, 40k tip.. ) i was like holy crap! I want to craft. Lol
Thanks a lot for your good work 👍
Thanks for watching Nathan!
„Hochenblume“ in fact looks like a made-up German word. „Blume“ literally means flower. „Hoch“ means „up“, but it can also mean „high“ (as in Highmountain). But you wouldn’t call it Hochenblume in German. Wowhead tells me it’s actually „Hochblume“ in the German localization which sounds a bit more like it could be a real thing.
I have planned to focus on transmutates with one of my alts, however, I am a little bit disapointed if there will not be any other than elements available. For example, cooldowns to create better bars or something like that.
It’s the traditional “element” style transmutes that we’ve seen in the past with Primals and Eternals, etc. Maybe we will get something better in a later patch!
thanks for the info!
Thanks for watching Zanthimos!
Great guide, thanks!
I only have one question: When Experimenting, should I tick the "Use Best Quality Reagents" or not?
You do not need to, quality of your items won’t affect your results
leatherworking video please ? :(
Its coming soon!
This morning I tried 40x advanced potion alchemical research and didn't unlock a single recipe... Still don't have the ultimate power potion and wasted 200 artisans mettle. Feels absolutely awful :(
I havent been lucky either, i feel your pain!
@@Penguinr2gt yeah but is this normal that you don't get a single recipe discovered via advance experimentation at all? I spent at least 300 artisan's mettle on advance phial experiments and didn't get anything. You tried basic one and got 2 discoveries out of 3 tries. I thought that maybe it's because "basic" is easier but then I watch another alchemy video and another guy gets like 3 recipies out of 5 tries with "Advance potion experiment". So the only difference here is that nobody I've seen tried "Advanced phial experiments". To me it looks like a serious bug and nothing related to luck when sombody is 50-66% successfull on 3-5 tries and others 0% successfull on ~60 tries. Did anyone else got screwed with "advanced phial experiments" or got lucky?
So i can make my Main with 2 porfessions and my alt beeing a herb/ore farmer? or whats the best setup? iam pretty lazy with professions so i guess Alchemy only ?
Yea! I recommend grouping two crafting professions together and then mine/herb together on another. You never have to focus on professions, so even if you dont plan to use it much, picking up a second crafting to go along with alchemy will be worth it!
This is just the guide I was looking for, thank you, but I have a question:
Would you recommend to buy ASAP the profession equipment? Before making any craft? Or it's not that important during leveling the profession? Thanks.
Hey! Thanks so much for watching. In terms of equipment, it will likely be a later-purchase than an early one. Theres two types of each equipment - the BiS version (showcased in these videos) and then a lesser quality BoE version. Depending on the profession, when leveling you will likely create these lesser versions yourself and then you can just use them to benefit yourself, or in the case like alchemy you can simply buy the basic versions off the AH whenever you want for an extra boost. I dont think you need to buy any sort of equipment until youve gone thru your initial leveling (1-65, 1-50, 1-60, etc. depending on the profession)! hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions!
which profession would you recommend if i'm playing my main only without any alts?
Really depends on what you want to get out of it. Are you a raider/high end content player that will want to make their own gear? if so, I recommend picking up that specific armor profession. Do you want to make your own potions and benefit more from them? I recommend alchemy. Do you want the utility that engineering brings? Pick up engineering. Really cant go wrong with any!
Ive heard that leveling and this xpac being alt friendly is apparently going to be a thing so it might not hurt to lv one or two more toons if you're REALLY wanting some more professions to choose from and utilize. Gathering doesnt hurt since theres the quality system. Like she said tho if ur into harder content u may want to invest in ur main toons armor/wep specialty whether its tailoring, LW, or BS to be able to make high item lv gear. If u want it to be simple but potentially effective with gold making id definitely recommend alchemy and/or maybe even inscription since theyre capable of making knowledge books that will sell as well as a potential powerful trinket. Alchemists can make these trinks that synergize with ur potion use so that might be into ur consideration with ur main. Hope that helped. Go with what u want really tho! :)
Is it possible to max out *all* the trees? Or are there a limited number of knowledge points (like talent points)?
You can learn everything! Just takes time
Penguin... Which profession do you think is the most complicated
By far I think Engineering is the most complicated profession in Dragonflight
i assume the transmutes is a daily cooldown baseline?
if so then im gonna get this on as many toons as i can, and prop tailoring on the rest, im gonna go all in alt army!
Yea! At the base level, the cooldowns are around technically 18-20ish hrs so I just refer to them as daily!
@@Penguinr2gt *smiles in 60 toons*
Hey thnx for the video, what do you think about a combo of Alchemy + JC on main and Herb + Mining on alt?
I think thats great!
Maybe, if it was bugged to begin with and come packed with a 4 hour CD on a RNG debuff from the Experimentation....very big bullshit
Experimentations are suppose to have CDs, I know it’s annoying tho
Yaaasss another one
hi, was wondering if the phials/potions are classified as reagents? they got the "crafting reagent" blue text. If so, does Chemical Synthesis (the multicraft tree for reagents) affect them?
Trinkets? :(
2 Alchemy trinkets!
Would you still recommend having a second account with the new proff. setup? I only sell current exp. items
I would! A second account even just for posting is extremely useful
Hello! Thank you for your video. When you say that knowledge points and trees are permanent and you can not change it. Does that mean if we go into potion experimentation you can never switch to batch production when you unlock all the recipes? Or do you know if you can pay gold for some item to reset? Thank you!
You can unlock everything, its not "pick this or that" - you just need enough knowledge points to learn it all. You cant reset any points once you use them
@@Penguinr2gt ah I see ! Thank you so much for answering!!
Do alchemy users still have 2 hour flasks? All my caracters today are alchemy just because of this.
Alchemy does still have buffs like duration and more powerful potions, but those buffs are tied to the specialization tree
Question, can you fill all mastery trees with points?
yes!
Why are you saying to take transmute spec on an alt not your main? just less gold in it or what
If you are someone with alts, you will likely want to set up Transmutes on your alts so you can allocate all your main's points to something a bit more "advanced" - however, if you dont have alts, go for it on your main! Theres not really a right or wrong option!
how do recraft in alchemy dragonflight work?
Currently I'm in Phial and was wonder what do I want to have on my tools the optional reagent? I was thinking Multi but not sure if thats good (I plan to mainly make pots and phial for myself or guild members)
Theres no right or wrong answer - Multicraft and resourefulness will be good in the future once you can guarantee yourself Q3 potions - if you cant do that yet, Inspiration is very strong
@@Penguinr2gt ok thx
Do we need lvl 70 to use our alts for daily cooldowns? Also on the cooldowns do we have to login every 12 hrs for example to use them or can we craft 5 every 3 days or something like this
Nope! Just need to learn the recipes
which one will make most gold long term?
Long term you’ll have everything unlocked so you’ll be fine! Lots of phials are looking good tho for raiding
ehm.. ok i get it they whana make specializations.. fine.. but can u get both potion spec and flask spec to maxx at some point? or u just need to 2 alchemmists if u whana get the best potions and best flasks?
You can learn everything, just takes times as you need to gain knowledge points - that’s why you can mix and match as much as you want because eventually you’ll have it all
@@Penguinr2gt ok thx for info ure great
how do you get the tier 3 draconic vial?
You can craft it with Alchemy - once you gain enough skill to reach the required difficulty
Can someone link me a TSM alchemy dragonflight pastebin i can use for posting ?
Early wow.. shit I almost die.. just one chance to survive= let’s use a heal pot.
wow today.. alchemy? ROFL.
My head hurts.....
so, can anyone tell me what the fuck "breakthrough chance" is? I know that's probably a dumb question, but I have no idea.
Breakthrough chance is the chance of you discovering a new recipe
Wish I watched this first, I wasted all them points. LoL
I can't stand Dragonflight alchemy. The 4 hour lockout is absolutely absurd, whoever thought of that should get a new job at the IRS.
It's just so fun, engaging, and rewarding to spend hours collecting mats just to be locked out of experimenting, which is the only way I can gain exp or new recipes. I'm torn between swapping to jewel crafting and hitting 50 in two hours or unsubbing all together. Disrespectful of the time I have to spend
I'm losing my mind. It's pronounced eSpecially not eXpecially.
Do you have to keep doing the experimentation to unlock the different transmutes?
No! Other transmutes are BoE recipes and actually are really cheap on the AH on most servers! Just look them up to see their price and you can get them easily!
@@Penguinr2gt Ah okay! Thanks and you're videos are the best. Do you know the names of one I should strive for at some point for a bunch of alts? Thanks love you