I have been saying this for a while. That police officers like this officer do a month on a standard bike course then a few months later do a further 4 weeks on an Advanced course and later, if chosen, can do a further two weeks on an escort course., So in all some 10 weeks of rigorous training, not including evening and weekend studies and that adds up to over 400 hours of training. Compare that with the three months that it is said to take on average to train a civilian Advanced Rider. At 2 hours per week they get what? 36 hours if they are lucky. So civilians have only about one tenth of the training that a police officer gets and to call themselves an Advanced Rider. That about says it all.
Great to see a personal perspective from a police officer and biker. I get to commute to work on my motorcycle and then ride works bikes during the day, while working with a group of motorcycle enthusiasts, 14 of 23 on my team ride their own bikes.
Now living in New Zealand and a FireBlade rider , I must say some of the best riders and people I have come across have been motorcycle police officers.
we ride WR450f's and husqvarna 701's offroad here in nsw, australia and you should see the boys trying to get their hands on the 2 701's when we do an op in the state forest
Perhaps suggest more solid fixings in hotel or at any designated motorcycle parking areas to chain a bike to. The one in your video is easily lifted into the back of a transit type van,even using the heavy duty chain locks to aid the lifting.
@UChYRpobLC3u5Kf_ZYV487ww Down here they are as much use as an ash tray on a motorbike. complete waste of tax payers money even with evidence of them self's committing crimes they still lie cheat then deny it.
Nice film. Well done to all concerned. A police bike is an extremely rare sight here in Northants as we don't have any dedicated bikers in the county. Thanks for sharing. I liaise with several former officers, all good blokes who ride to a standard us mortals can only dream about.
@@nanderlizernanderlizer684 what... no suitable bikes.... really triumph have class leaders in the Tourer and ADV market for a start at not much different price wise to the big 4 Japanese manufacturers or BMW. Tiger for patrol work or their tourer is the obvious, 675 or street triple for unmarked work or something like the sprint ST more sports tourer could replace the VFR. Would have huge benefits for British industry and from a professional pov pretty much every force uses fireblades or VFRS for undercover work so would break up what we have to look for.
@@jacobporter4623 Exactly! This comes up a lot when posting video of the top police riders... they're constantly looking behind - and all around - so as you say, they always know what's where. I've also seen people claim that using all the road is dangerous, and that their advanced instructor says they can't do it. Using all the road is completely legal (assuming the road markings allow of course), but learning to do it safely is part of the reason these officers get eight weeks of intensive, non-stop training.
I think he knows what he is doing more than most, cameras are there evidence for when your bike gets nicked by a rat. Your comment is poke at the Police, it has no value.
@@hawkeyefire6208 My comment is to highlight that laws apply equally to everyone, nobody is above the law. Those that enforce the law should not abuse their position while prosecuting & judging others. If you believe those in authority (police, politicians, judiciary etc.) should be exempt from the laws they apply to others then we'll need to agree to disagree.
Phil Gifford, I’m saying there are enough barriers in there way let’s not put more in front of them. He gets in his car fully aware of his roll at that time, it’s a shame other drivers don’t do the same.
@@philgifford8258 Totally agree with you. Unfortunately, there are way too many cops out there looking for a reason to extract revenue from soft target motorists. My support has long since evaporated and they've never been there for me when I needed theirs.
@@hawkeyefire6208 I disagree with you entirely. The police do a great job and the Sergeant is clearly a very experienced officer in all aspects of police motoring and motorcycling. I have respect for him and most police officers, we need them of course but they need to obey the rules and laws of this country in exactly the same way as members of the public do. I'm confident, having listened to him speak that he will agree with this and it is in everyone's interests that this principle is seen to consistently apply. Your assertion that Phil's comment was a "poke at the police" will do the police no favours at all. The fact is and as I understand the situation, for a camera to do its job properly, it needs to be mounted with the lens viewing through the swept area of the windscreen but care needs to be applied when reading the regulations on such placement. There are two zones, A & B and what we see in the video is the camera appears as mounted in zone B -- but it seems that the camera falls foul of the applicable law. This is my understanding of the law re. the placement of dashcams etc. but I'm no expert. Correct me if I'm wrong. _"Zone A is a 290mm area centred on the steering wheel."_ _"Zone B is the area of the windscreen that is covered by your windscreen wipers when they are active, and is commonly referred to as the “swept area” No part of the device, camera, cradle, suction cup or cables, should intrude more than 40mm into Zone B. And only 10mm intrusion into Zone A is permitted."_ Perhaps it was placed lawfully - I haven't measured it of course - I am talking about the principle that it must be so, and it doesn't look lawfully placed to me given what I have read on the matter. The questioning of it is perfectly acceptable and so it should be. I have posted above, a concern I have regarding the police motorcyclist rapidly accelerating to well beyond the 30mph speed limit for the road he was in at 17:24 in the video. There may have been a valid reason for it but if it's ok with you, I have asked what that reason was. If there was no valid reason then the police motorcyclist was in breach of motoring law and should be prosecuted for that breach. The same principle applies here -- there is no "poke at the police" going on at all. Are you suggesting that it is correct and lawful that the police are allowed to have cameras which do not comply with the relevant regulations for the placement of dashcams for example? And are you suggesting that members of the public aren't allowed to question police on such matters? You seem to have missed the major point that police need to be seen by the public to obey all traffic laws at all times, except outside of the exemptions they are carefully given -- the exemptions they and other emergency vehicle drivers are given apply in certain circumstances only, at all other times they must drive within the laws of the country, just as you and I do. _"Serious Consequences ,"_ _"If you are involved in a road traffic collision (RTC) and your camera is illegally positioned, you could face a charge of careless driving, or even dangerous driving. A conviction could result in anything from penalty points to up to two years imprisonment. "_ _"Additionally, if your dash cam is illegally placed, your vehicle will automatically fail its MOT."_
What a superb video.
Nice to see that the sergeant is passionate, human and a biker through and through.
Thanks guys.
Hopefully their efforts are backed up by the Courts...so many sentences are an insult to the officers hard work. Steve
Agreed, sometimes I wonder is it judges being leiniant or lack of space to put them
@@K21_KXWA bit of both I think, judges who don't live in the real world and prisons not having enough guards or not enough prisons.
if there isnt enough prison space make the fine huge
@@JL-rx6hl why most of them don't work anyway
booked and out in under 2hrs given community work that they rarely ever turn up at
I have been saying this for a while. That police officers like this officer do a month on a standard bike course then a few months later do a further 4 weeks on an Advanced course and later, if chosen, can do a further two weeks on an escort course., So in all some 10 weeks of rigorous training, not including evening and weekend studies and that adds up to over 400 hours of training.
Compare that with the three months that it is said to take on average to train a civilian Advanced Rider. At 2 hours per week they get what? 36 hours if they are lucky. So civilians have only about one tenth of the training that a police officer gets and to call themselves an Advanced Rider. That about says it all.
That's the best video I've seen on this channel, thank you. Don
Great to see a personal perspective from a police officer and biker. I get to commute to work on my motorcycle and then ride works bikes during the day, while working with a group of motorcycle enthusiasts, 14 of 23 on my team ride their own bikes.
Would have been nice to see more of the bikes...
Now living in New Zealand and a FireBlade rider , I must say some of the best riders and people I have come across have been motorcycle police officers.
Best job in the world. I've spoken to a few motorcycle cops in my time and they're bikers first and coppers second.
Who cares about the Health and safety of scum bags. Knock em off
The bikes are stolen, and you wouldn't war your bike back all mangled and scratched
Great to get a look into the world of Police Motorcycle Riders, wish it had been much longer.
we ride WR450f's and husqvarna 701's offroad here in nsw, australia and you should see the boys trying to get their hands on the 2 701's when we do an op in the state forest
Perhaps suggest more solid fixings in hotel or at any designated motorcycle parking areas to chain a bike to. The one in your video is easily lifted into the back of a transit type van,even using the heavy duty chain locks to aid the lifting.
Brilliant work guys. The Met could learn a thing or 2 from you guys!
It would be good to see more videos about bike cops training and daily work routines, particularly on bike filming
That cop is sound seems a good guy.
In front of the cameras, total snake behind them.
@@jasonpoole6284 nice oldskool ford's mate you would fit in fine here.
@UChYRpobLC3u5Kf_ZYV487ww Down here they are as much use as an ash tray on a motorbike. complete waste of tax payers money even with evidence of them self's committing crimes they still lie cheat then deny it.
@@series1RS6 hah brilliant 👍😁
It’s a great promo video for Merseyside Police. I used to be in the Met but in the 80’s. My police days are long gone but I’m still a motorbike rider.
Nice film. Well done to all concerned. A police bike is an extremely rare sight here in Northants as we don't have any dedicated bikers in the county. Thanks for sharing. I liaise with several former officers, all good blokes who ride to a standard us mortals can only dream about.
What an excellent piece of film. All the best to them all.
Great works lads, you have my full respect
Come down to Sussex! We need a force such as yours; the situation is getting dire with the number of thefts here.
Fake Merseyside video, not once did they mention The Beatles or even Ken Dodd for that matter.
Calm down, calm down... ;-)
They do though ,don,t they though,they do?.
No shell suits either
@@jediknight1294 give them yours
@@maxbacon4828 yawn
Great video. I love watching motorcycle police from across the pond.
Nice leathers, what brand? Incidentally, re. bike thieves, shoot to kill.
I see so many bike thiefs. Police should have undercover 250cc and follow theifs back home.
Them hondas are pointless and expensive to big aswell.
What a great Sarg. Big thumbs up respect.
Crf 250s are ideal for the off road chasing or even taking out the scoots in the city
i not a great fan of the police, but there is something humble about a biker.
Good job lads, well done.
See you all over the lakes guys keep up the work
Which bike does he prefer as an allrounder..
I don’t think I could ever spend so much time with colleagues outside work. What about families?
Good video. May I suggest a can of ACF50?
Ey London Liverpool could give yous all a fucking lesson on that one seen loads of them unmarked bikes round Liverpool sweet to see them
Great respect for police bikers
Good work, no mercy for theives
Excellent mission, be safe brothers!
I own an ex escort met bike best bike I’ve owned by far.
Really good video - thank you.
Maybe one day a U.K. police force will buy vehicles made in the uk
They'll have to pretty soon when ye're fucked out of the E. U.
Won't have a huge choice then...
why would they do that when they are more expensive and when there isnt a single bike from the uk that makes sense for policemen
@@nanderlizernanderlizer684 what... no suitable bikes.... really triumph have class leaders in the Tourer and ADV market for a start at not much different price wise to the big 4 Japanese manufacturers or BMW. Tiger for patrol work or their tourer is the obvious, 675 or street triple for unmarked work or something like the sprint ST more sports tourer could replace the VFR.
Would have huge benefits for British industry and from a professional pov pretty much every force uses fireblades or VFRS for undercover work so would break up what we have to look for.
Jediknight 129 How about a “Thruxton Pursuit Special”?
Just a dream job, helping people and make city safer by riding a bike
Bikers hate this lot
37 bike thiefs didn't like this video.
Makes sense, there is not much value stealing video recorders and toasters in liverpool these days
" all right ".
nice chap !
15:18 you look a little close mate! lol
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks guys
thanks to the police grand job 👍🏻
Turn on subtitles at @5:06 What do you see? Lol
Got be best job in world
copper failed to do life saver
You don't need to if you know what's behind you. Probably doing enough rear obs in mirrors to get a mental image of exactly where everything is.
@@jacobporter4623 Exactly! This comes up a lot when posting video of the top police riders... they're constantly looking behind - and all around - so as you say, they always know what's where. I've also seen people claim that using all the road is dangerous, and that their advanced instructor says they can't do it. Using all the road is completely legal (assuming the road markings allow of course), but learning to do it safely is part of the reason these officers get eight weeks of intensive, non-stop training.
Illegally mounted GoPro. Stuck in swept area of windscreen obstructing forward view.
I think he knows what he is doing more than most, cameras are there evidence for when your bike gets nicked by a rat. Your comment is poke at the Police, it has no value.
@@hawkeyefire6208 My comment is to highlight that laws apply equally to everyone, nobody is above the law. Those that enforce the law should not abuse their position while prosecuting & judging others. If you believe those in authority (police, politicians, judiciary etc.) should be exempt from the laws they apply to others then we'll need to agree to disagree.
Phil Gifford, I’m saying there are enough barriers in there way let’s not put more in front of them. He gets in his car fully aware of his roll at that time, it’s a shame other drivers don’t do the same.
@@philgifford8258 Totally agree with you. Unfortunately, there are way too many cops out there looking for a reason to extract revenue from soft target motorists. My support has long since evaporated and they've never been there for me when I needed theirs.
@@hawkeyefire6208 I disagree with you entirely. The police do a great job and the Sergeant is clearly a very experienced officer in all aspects of police motoring and motorcycling. I have respect for him and most police officers, we need them of course but they need to obey the rules and laws of this country in exactly the same way as members of the public do. I'm confident, having listened to him speak that he will agree with this and it is in everyone's interests that this principle is seen to consistently apply.
Your assertion that Phil's comment was a "poke at the police" will do the police no favours at all.
The fact is and as I understand the situation, for a camera to do its job properly, it needs to be mounted with the lens viewing through the swept area of the windscreen but care needs to be applied when reading the regulations on such placement. There are two zones, A & B and what we see in the video is the camera appears as mounted in zone B -- but it seems that the camera falls foul of the applicable law. This is my understanding of the law re. the placement of dashcams etc. but I'm no expert. Correct me if I'm wrong.
_"Zone A is a 290mm area centred on the steering wheel."_
_"Zone B is the area of the windscreen that is covered by your windscreen wipers when they are active, and is commonly referred to as the “swept area” No part of the device, camera, cradle, suction cup or cables, should intrude more than 40mm into Zone B. And only 10mm intrusion into Zone A is permitted."_ Perhaps it was placed lawfully - I haven't measured it of course - I am talking about the principle that it must be so, and it doesn't look lawfully placed to me given what I have read on the matter. The questioning of it is perfectly acceptable and so it should be.
I have posted above, a concern I have regarding the police motorcyclist rapidly accelerating to well beyond the 30mph speed limit for the road he was in at 17:24 in the video. There may have been a valid reason for it but if it's ok with you, I have asked what that reason was. If there was no valid reason then the police motorcyclist was in breach of motoring law and should be prosecuted for that breach.
The same principle applies here -- there is no "poke at the police" going on at all.
Are you suggesting that it is correct and lawful that the police are allowed to have cameras which do not comply with the relevant regulations for the placement of dashcams for example? And are you suggesting that members of the public aren't allowed to question police on such matters? You seem to have missed the major point that police need to be seen by the public to obey all traffic laws at all times, except outside of the exemptions they are carefully given -- the exemptions they and other emergency vehicle drivers are given apply in certain circumstances only, at all other times they must drive within the laws of the country, just as you and I do.
_"Serious Consequences
,"_
_"If you are involved in a road traffic collision (RTC) and your camera is illegally positioned, you could face a charge of careless driving, or even dangerous driving. A conviction could result in anything from penalty points to up to two years imprisonment.
"_
_"Additionally, if your dash cam is illegally placed, your vehicle will automatically fail its MOT."_
Not an easy job