As he said, he prefers 'all in' as opposed to the slower and steady runs to just get a finish. He has had a finish already at Western so of course he is going to go for broke and course records because that's what he likes to do. You can't call it arrogance when he has already taken multiple course records and FKT's.
Jim is a beast, sure he has a touch of arrogance but you need to have that when you race and know you can beat everyone who is at the starting line. Good Luck at Western 2018!!
man, you're pushing it at the very edge of ridiculousness... and that's good. But, you'll fail sometimes. Get over that, and keep it up as long as you can. The people who change the world don't give up and pacify the body, they make the body adjust. You'll get it bud. You'll get it in a big, big way.
Thanks for this. I love running Ultras and whilst no where near Jim's league, I love the fact that you've made these short films about the journey, the puking, the days where the weather could be better. It is what it is on the day. Massive respect to Jim and his crew.
Is there some docs about the Women Ultra runners? I know Mai has a doc, I find this sport really interesting. If they had told me as a kid the running over mountains was a sport. Well, my life would be different!
I think UTMB is a completely different beast than WS. 9000 m of climb at UTMB vs "only" 5000 m of climb at WS and also the climbs at UTMB are steeper. At UTMB the European Runners are the favorites and Jim has not got much chance to win.
He led for a while. Finished 5th, which is pretty good (I'm sure he wanted 1st tho). He is young. If he keeps up his spirit he'll eventually get there. But he and everyone should accept that with such daredevil speeds there will be a lot of failures.
No disrespect intended... but watching this video I feel like Jim has been portrayed a little bit hastily as (one of) the favorite for UTMB 2017 in view of his hereby documented blow up in WS2017. Xavier, Francois and Kilian have never experienced such SHTF situation in any big race as far as I have been able to ascertain. I can't wait for the race to start in a matter of hours now, I will be on site to cheer up Jim and the other front runners - it is 7 am as I write this, weather looks OK - but for Xst sake hold your horses cowboy Jim! No pressure, it's just running, you're young, charismatic and good looking and there will be more to your life than just running (and puking).
My longest 32 mile race lasted over 4 hours so about 7+ mph. Ten MORE hours at 7+ mph to be sub 14 hours in a hundred mile race! These guys are tough Mother F++++ers!!
Major respect for what Jim has accomplished and it takes balls to go out at that pace despite some terrible conditions. He'll be back and that course record will fall. Sub 14... he's the only one today that can even attempt it probably. He is a beast. www.joerandene.com
Great effort but wanting the adoration of others is never the reason to do something. Speed is as shallow as good looks and it's time we stop encouraging unhealthy behaviors. It's tantamount to encouraging models to starve themselves for a particular look. Doing this to solve a low self esteem, which is clearly the case, will never result in something truly positive. Supporters and fans will see this as an attack without realizing their enabling behaviors. Yeah he might hit a home run at some point but at what cost and is he okay with just being himself even if that doesn't mean being a prodigy child? Kilian was asked about what having the CRs for HR100 meant to him and he was quick to say it meant nothing, that it was all about the experience. Jim wanted nothing short of the record and he wanted it bad. Winning is an attitude more than it is a result.
It's ok if you don't like Walmsley. Fine. But your wont to blather on in an attempt at philosophical grandiosity is lame. Your sentences are weak endeavors; you apparently seek to spread retrospective clairvoiyance, but unless you are him, you cannot be in league with his determination. "Speed is as shallow as good looks...": Remind yourself that this is a race, not a runway strip modeling contest. Dumbass.
John Greever "philosophic grandiosity"? My points were pretty simple, not grandiose by any means, but it's clear you were threatened somehow by how I articulated my thoughts. It's okay to feel inadequate, no need to bombast in a really cringe-worthy fashion. Name calling tells me your value. I'm not in any way trying to sound smart or clairvoyant, I'm simply stating what I think to be obvious. He has a low self esteem, which is why he cares so much what people think about him. That's where his arrogance came from " I'm gonna crush the heat ". I do not hate him at all. I feel sorry for him because he doesn't realize he's awesome whether he's at the front or at the back. He doesn't believe that which is why it means so much for him to win over everyone else. It's really simple. Racing at that distance, or any distance really, is about overcoming personal boundaries. Any great, from Meb Keflezhigi to Kilian, will tell you that. He's still very young in the sport so he has a lot to learn about patience. I'm not saying anything controversial here.
Phillip Espinoza Your implying that it's wrong to push the limits. To say it's a risky approach or maybe not the most strategically sound in the goal of winning the race is reasonable but you associated negative character traits with it which most would say is going too far. Jim pushes the boundaries of what is possible, you may view that as arrogant but many including tons of competitors look at it with tons of respect because he's not just trying to win the race but also to run the best time he is capable of.
So, you're saying that phoning it in is just as good as giving it your all? Sorry, no. As Pre said, "To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." Doesn't matter if your best has you breaking CRs or just finishing ahead of the cutoffs, but kudos to Jim for truly searching the depths of what his best really is. It's a fine line and sometimes you go over it. Many of us believe he's going to nail it at the hundred mile distance soon, just like he's nailed it at so many shorter races and FKTs already. You may believe that Jim trying to be the best runner he can be is "clearly" the result of low self-esteem, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Jim seems to feel pretty good about himself these days. And with good reason. Take your pop psychology elsewhere and let's all be supportive and encouraging towards someone trying to do Very Hard Things with a high risk of failure. Go get 'em, Jim!
"I want to be this fan favorite prodigy guy that everyone wants me to be." If you guys don't see anything wrong with this sentence then I dunno what to tell you. It's not about his race style, it's about his motives which can be ascertained by listening to all of his interviews. He cares entirely too much about people's opinion of himself. In the Ultrarunning magazine interview about his UROY award, he talked about how much it meant to him to be recognized by others. All you guys see is someone chasing after goals and records in an inspiring way but if you listen and look closely, there's more to his motives that show it's not entirely healthy. He drinks quite a bit, and was pretty drunk days before WSER 2017, had a DUI incident with alcohol in his past. Most people might just ignore these things and consider it judgmental to read too much into them. Or they might like him too much to come off as critical or judgmental about his actions. But if you look closely all the puzzle pieces are there. On a different but related thought, if he was a middle of the packer you guys wouldn't care one bit about him and that only goes to affirm (what I perceive to be) his motives for trying to become the "best in the world". There are plenty who have admirable stories and put in as much effort, but you'll never laud them because they're not fast enough to be worth paying attention to. He is an extremely talented guy, but talent only gets you so far in Ultra. He also seems like a really nice guy albeit with some arrogant tendencies (ie thinking you're more powerful than the sun). That doesn't mean any comment about him other than adulation should be met with such vitriol. It also doesn't mean he can't have self esteem issues. To me it's abundantly clear but if you disagree that's fine. My point is we could (and should) stop idolizing and glorifying speed in Ultra so much yet still remain encouraging of people to push it to their limit. Also, I'm tired of Prefontaine being invoked in convos about 100 mile races, the guy never ran more than 13 minutes at a time so of course he could do a suicidal pace. Having a Prefontaine race style in an ultra gets you a DNF, clearly. Also, I hold the World Record for most Rubiks Cubes solved while running a marathon (845, previous record 175), for the guy who asked "Who the fuck are you?". Someone who breaks records.
Long distance runners tend to be extremely lean (just as basically any elite athletes of endurance sports). Especially when there's so much elevation you cannot afford excess weight to carry up and down. It might not be "good for you", but there's no other way if you want to win, you have to be very lean. Pro/elite sports are usually not healthy, I hope he'll have a long career.
Wasn't sad to see Jim blow up (again) this year. His arrogance was totally classless before the race. Olson has the CR because he *finished the race* -- Jim should take some lessons in strategy and humility from him and the other elites.
Totally disagree. There is a difference between arrogance and confidence. Jim pushes the limits when it comes to ultra running, and that is why he has a higher chance of blowing up.
I think I could pace Jim from mile 99-100. I'll just go ahead and put that out there for next year maybe.
UTMB Top 5 results 2017:
1. François D'HAENE (France)
2. Kilian JORNET BURGADA (Spain)
3. Tim TOLLEFSON (USA)
4. Xavier THEVENARD (France)
5. Jim WALMSLEY (USA)
As he said, he prefers 'all in' as opposed to the slower and steady runs to just get a finish. He has had a finish already at Western so of course he is going to go for broke and course records because that's what he likes to do. You can't call it arrogance when he has already taken multiple course records and FKT's.
Haha Jim's 2018 time 14:30:04 he won by over an hour and 20 minutes
Met This guy today@Grand Canyon. Very humble and generally a good guy. His experience has definitely made him who he is today. Keep going foreword👍🏻
I recognized Jamil's footage of Jim tearing down through that field of boulders!
So fun to watch the cowboys interact. It's inspiring to have a view into the joys and hardships of a pro runner's lifestyle. Thanks for the film!
For me, the bottom line is that elites, all of them, are better than me. That's why I watch them. Looking forward to a great utmb
GO Jim @UTMB, you are the people champs
Jim is a beast, sure he has a touch of arrogance but you need to have that when you race and know you can beat everyone who is at the starting line. Good Luck at Western 2018!!
He's running for reasons we don't yet know.
Also, who else could see that he wanted to scream, "FUUUUCCK!" when he was walking it in to Ruck-A-Chucky?
man, you're pushing it at the very edge of ridiculousness... and that's good. But, you'll fail sometimes. Get over that, and keep it up as long as you can. The people who change the world don't give up and pacify the body, they make the body adjust. You'll get it bud. You'll get it in a big, big way.
Loved seeing all of this. Jim has a great team!
Good to see Jim back and his spirits are in a great place. God bless, dear. God bless.
14 hours and 9 minutes this year, that's insane.
Jim your a real legend and I am following your journey. You inspire me and those around me here in the UK, England.
Love this guy! So glad I met him at WS!
Thanks for this. I love running Ultras and whilst no where near Jim's league, I love the fact that you've made these short films about the journey, the puking, the days where the weather could be better. It is what it is on the day. Massive respect to Jim and his crew.
In case you missed Episode 1 here's the link. Bang bang! ua-cam.com/video/zkdWjq34h5w/v-deo.html
8:01 baby thats what ultrarunnings all about!
What's the line from Bladerunner? The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
What a boss
Killian and Sandes should prove at the barkley ultra
Outside, why have you not created a 2018 Western States Race video?
Just clicked like before I even started watching...
home runs or strike outs............go get'em Jim.......U ROCK!!!
Does anyone know what song is playing in the background from around 9:40-12:00
Is there some docs about the Women Ultra runners? I know Mai has a doc, I find this sport really interesting. If they had told me as a kid the running over mountains was a sport. Well, my life would be different!
fuscia Billy Yang’s Life in a Day, a beautiful documentary about four elite women.
Yes there are
It Better to Burn out than Fade away, All balls and all glory love it 💪
running in 40 degrees celcius?? thats insanee
I think UTMB is a completely different beast than WS.
9000 m of climb at UTMB vs "only" 5000 m of climb at WS and also the climbs at UTMB are steeper.
At UTMB the European Runners are the favorites and Jim has not got much chance to win.
He led for a while. Finished 5th, which is pretty good (I'm sure he wanted 1st tho). He is young. If he keeps up his spirit he'll eventually get there. But he and everyone should accept that with such daredevil speeds there will be a lot of failures.
Are there any shops where such shirt with the holes are available?
Csaba Toth or make your own 😂
is there anywhere where you can buy that clif Bar shirt?
awesome guy
No disrespect intended... but watching this video I feel like Jim has been portrayed a little bit hastily as (one of) the favorite for UTMB 2017 in view of his hereby documented blow up in WS2017. Xavier, Francois and Kilian have never experienced such SHTF situation in any big race as far as I have been able to ascertain. I can't wait for the race to start in a matter of hours now, I will be on site to cheer up Jim and the other front runners - it is 7 am as I write this, weather looks OK - but for Xst sake hold your horses cowboy Jim! No pressure, it's just running, you're young, charismatic and good looking and there will be more to your life than just running (and puking).
Kilian did at Western States in 2014 didn't he? Went off the front and blew up.....
2010 not 2014.
Kilian even neglected hydration for his first Western States. Often always pointed out he didn't like carrying water on his runs. Big mistake.
PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME THE DAMN SONG AT 5:30???
soundcloud.com/fizzix-productions/light-my-fire
Having a life filled with "Guys that would go to war with me" is pretty great.
Soundtrack pls?
My longest 32 mile race lasted over 4 hours so about 7+ mph. Ten MORE hours at 7+ mph to be sub 14 hours in a hundred mile race! These guys are tough Mother F++++ers!!
where exactly does this race takes place ? is it for locals or international runners as well? what month ?
Yes but you have to qualify for it by participating in other qualifying races
What Nathan belt is J-Dubs wearing?
Nathan Vapor Krar waist pack: www.nathansports.com/vaporkrar-waistpak
does anyone know the song from 5:29???
soundcloud.com/fizzix-productions/light-my-fire
Get well soon Rivs 🏴☠️
SEND IT JDub
Epic!!!
Awesome 💪🏾✌🏾
He doesn't care guys so stop asking him.
Jim's a fucking legend!!
kenneth mcinnerney not yet not yet
Jims awesome
Bro.. 0:48 name of this song pls. :)
@Florian Maxl Thanks Bro :)
song @ 5:29?????
soundcloud.com/fizzix-productions/light-my-fire
What is this song?!?!?!
soundcloud.com/fizzix-productions/light-my-fire
Major respect for what Jim has accomplished and it takes balls to go out at that pace despite some terrible conditions. He'll be back and that course record will fall. Sub 14... he's the only one today that can even attempt it probably. He is a beast. www.joerandene.com
Run smart
8:00
#gotrytosendit
Is weed a disqualifier? I could run forever if I smoke. Keeps my stomach stable.
8:12 yum
Great effort but wanting the adoration of others is never the reason to do something. Speed is as shallow as good looks and it's time we stop encouraging unhealthy behaviors. It's tantamount to encouraging models to starve themselves for a particular look. Doing this to solve a low self esteem, which is clearly the case, will never result in something truly positive. Supporters and fans will see this as an attack without realizing their enabling behaviors. Yeah he might hit a home run at some point but at what cost and is he okay with just being himself even if that doesn't mean being a prodigy child? Kilian was asked about what having the CRs for HR100 meant to him and he was quick to say it meant nothing, that it was all about the experience. Jim wanted nothing short of the record and he wanted it bad. Winning is an attitude more than it is a result.
It's ok if you don't like Walmsley. Fine. But your wont to blather on in an attempt at philosophical grandiosity is lame. Your sentences are weak endeavors; you apparently seek to spread retrospective clairvoiyance, but unless you are him, you cannot be in league with his determination. "Speed is as shallow as good looks...": Remind yourself that this is a race, not a runway strip modeling contest. Dumbass.
John Greever "philosophic grandiosity"? My points were pretty simple, not grandiose by any means, but it's clear you were threatened somehow by how I articulated my thoughts. It's okay to feel inadequate, no need to bombast in a really cringe-worthy fashion. Name calling tells me your value. I'm not in any way trying to sound smart or clairvoyant, I'm simply stating what I think to be obvious. He has a low self esteem, which is why he cares so much what people think about him. That's where his arrogance came from " I'm gonna crush the heat ". I do not hate him at all. I feel sorry for him because he doesn't realize he's awesome whether he's at the front or at the back. He doesn't believe that which is why it means so much for him to win over everyone else. It's really simple. Racing at that distance, or any distance really, is about overcoming personal boundaries. Any great, from Meb Keflezhigi to Kilian, will tell you that. He's still very young in the sport so he has a lot to learn about patience. I'm not saying anything controversial here.
Phillip Espinoza Your implying that it's wrong to push the limits. To say it's a risky approach or maybe not the most strategically sound in the goal of winning the race is reasonable but you associated negative character traits with it which most would say is going too far. Jim pushes the boundaries of what is possible, you may view that as arrogant but many including tons of competitors look at it with tons of respect because he's not just trying to win the race but also to run the best time he is capable of.
So, you're saying that phoning it in is just as good as giving it your all? Sorry, no. As Pre said, "To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." Doesn't matter if your best has you breaking CRs or just finishing ahead of the cutoffs, but kudos to Jim for truly searching the depths of what his best really is. It's a fine line and sometimes you go over it. Many of us believe he's going to nail it at the hundred mile distance soon, just like he's nailed it at so many shorter races and FKTs already. You may believe that Jim trying to be the best runner he can be is "clearly" the result of low self-esteem, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Jim seems to feel pretty good about himself these days. And with good reason. Take your pop psychology elsewhere and let's all be supportive and encouraging towards someone trying to do Very Hard Things with a high risk of failure. Go get 'em, Jim!
"I want to be this fan favorite prodigy guy that everyone wants me to be." If you guys don't see anything wrong with this sentence then I dunno what to tell you. It's not about his race style, it's about his motives which can be ascertained by listening to all of his interviews. He cares entirely too much about people's opinion of himself. In the Ultrarunning magazine interview about his UROY award, he talked about how much it meant to him to be recognized by others. All you guys see is someone chasing after goals and records in an inspiring way but if you listen and look closely, there's more to his motives that show it's not entirely healthy. He drinks quite a bit, and was pretty drunk days before WSER 2017, had a DUI incident with alcohol in his past. Most people might just ignore these things and consider it judgmental to read too much into them. Or they might like him too much to come off as critical or judgmental about his actions. But if you look closely all the puzzle pieces are there. On a different but related thought, if he was a middle of the packer you guys wouldn't care one bit about him and that only goes to affirm (what I perceive to be) his motives for trying to become the "best in the world". There are plenty who have admirable stories and put in as much effort, but you'll never laud them because they're not fast enough to be worth paying attention to. He is an extremely talented guy, but talent only gets you so far in Ultra. He also seems like a really nice guy albeit with some arrogant tendencies (ie thinking you're more powerful than the sun). That doesn't mean any comment about him other than adulation should be met with such vitriol. It also doesn't mean he can't have self esteem issues. To me it's abundantly clear but if you disagree that's fine. My point is we could (and should) stop idolizing and glorifying speed in Ultra so much yet still remain encouraging of people to push it to their limit.
Also, I'm tired of Prefontaine being invoked in convos about 100 mile races, the guy never ran more than 13 minutes at a time so of course he could do a suicidal pace. Having a Prefontaine race style in an ultra gets you a DNF, clearly.
Also, I hold the World Record for most Rubiks Cubes solved while running a marathon (845, previous record 175), for the guy who asked "Who the fuck are you?". Someone who breaks records.
Worst hairstyle ever?
Is being that thin good for you? Actually wanna know.
He became 5th at UTMB!
You can follow the race here live utmbmontblanc.com/en/live/utmb
Long distance runners tend to be extremely lean (just as basically any elite athletes of endurance sports). Especially when there's so much elevation you cannot afford excess weight to carry up and down. It might not be "good for you", but there's no other way if you want to win, you have to be very lean. Pro/elite sports are usually not healthy, I hope he'll have a long career.
Wasn't sad to see Jim blow up (again) this year. His arrogance was totally classless before the race. Olson has the CR because he *finished the race* -- Jim should take some lessons in strategy and humility from him and the other elites.
NealArmstrong
Thank you! I couldn't have said it better!
Totally disagree. There is a difference between arrogance and confidence. Jim pushes the limits when it comes to ultra running, and that is why he has a higher chance of blowing up.
Strong worded comment from someone sitting behind a keyboard considering this year's result
This aged poorly
If Bill Burr turned athlete, Jim would be the result
I DON'T CARE!