The more I read James Tour, the more I see how confused he is, caught between his Jewish origin, his scientific background, and his newly found Christian conversion: "I have been labeled as an Intelligent Design (sometimes called “ID”) proponent. I am not. I do not know how to use science to prove intelligent design although some others might. I am sympathetic to the arguments and I find some of them intriguing, but I prefer to be free of that intelligent design label. As a modern-day scientist, I do not know how to prove intelligent design using my most sophisticated analytical tools- the canonical tools are, by their own admission, inadequate to answer the intelligent design question. I cannot lay the issue at the doorstep of a benevolent creator or even an impersonal intelligent designer. All I can presently say is that my chemical tools do not permit my assessment of intelligent design." - James Tour August 2019
@alantasman8273 one word abiogenisis. The wait is over. Plus it wasn't spontaneous it took a long time to even get what you would consider to be cellular life
@@Thespiceynuggetone word, "abiogenesis", which has been failing to prove it's worth, and none of the scietists who promoted it has the dare to say "I've done it". Also, in order for abiogenesis to be true, no being with intelligent can be accepted to be involved in providing any process to make life. If one person is involved to provide the so called "right conditions", abiogenesis failed. For there was no one there to provide the "right conditions" for life at the beginning of life. Abiogenesis now can only be called hypothesis, not theory.
@binhanh296 lmao, the fact that you said that shows you don't understand it and just because you don't understand it doesn't make it false. Gold star for trying, tho 🌟
O LORD , I have heard the report of you, and your work, O LORD , do I fear. In the midst of the years revive it; in the midst of the years make it known; in wrath remember mercy....You went out for the salvation of your people, for the salvation of your anointed. You crushed the head of the house of the wicked, laying him bare from thigh to neck. Selah(Habakkuk3:2,13 ESV)
Great video with great content; I have a science crush on Dr, Tour, and I geek out on his explanations of the organic chemistry! However, the production quality of the video leaves something to be desired. Specifically, the significant differences in volume between Abdu’s microphone and Dr Tour’s microphone is extremely frustrating. I had to adjust the volume constantly during the video.
Thanks for bringing our attention to this! Haven't had this issue before, but we did learn a valuable lesson about video editing after you pointed this out, and have taken steps to avoid it in the future.
Well, you explain to me how you get a random process to create specified information, and also ate the same time has molecular machines ready to read the specified information, and follow the instructions to build the structure the information coded for
@@jasperkloosterman747 I don't think you are going to get any answers. Definitely no evidence of a worldwide flood despite the fact the majority of the earth's surface is covered in waterborne sedimentary deposits.. never mind fossilisation on a scale that is not reproducible today.. fossil graveyards, polystratic fossils.. preserved soft tissue remains in fossil T-REX supposedly over 65 million years old.. definitely no evidence for that. Who has blind faith.. atheists.. they don't follow the evidence.
@@jasperkloosterman747 Actually I think life is almost inevitable if the conditions are right. All you need is a molecule that can act as its own template for it to copy itself. It doesn't need to be very good. If one copy in a hundred works, that's enough as long as the rate of production exceeds the rate of destruction. Random variations will be better and they will come to dominate and evolution will occur from there. All this talk of "information" is just a way of mystifying the process.
@@alanG3806 interesting response. You think it’s almost inevitable if the conditions are right. What kind of conditions would you need for random processes to create specified information systems and the machines to read the information and build the structure that the information coded for? I feel like you’re giving me a lot of hope on winning the lottery, even though I never buy any lottery tickets. I just have to wait for the right conditions, and it’s almost inevitable
I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups, rather than to make men happy. ~Bertrand Russell, "Icarus: or, The Future of Science," 1924
His basic premise is "we don't understand the process by which life could arise from organic molecular precursors, therefore a god must have done it. Not just any god, but the one I happen to believe in." Obviously garbage logic. A textbook example of the "god of the gaps" fallacy. Also called the "I don't know, therefore I know" fallacy.
There is an enormous body of research and multiple conferences. There is nothing failure about it. James Tour has been humiliated in front of his peers in public on multiple occasions for lying about the current state of origin of life research and for calling some of his colleagues frauds. We've all seen the video of him at Harvard being laughed at by his peers. Sorry, but you are bearing false witness by claiming that there is no science behind abiogenesis. Last time I checked, that was a significant sin. Possibly in the top 10?
Did you see Tour's disgraceful display when a debated Prof Dave? It was a disgraceful act by a pig of a man. What was also disgusting was the complete support the so called moderator gave Tour and even butted in with his own questions to Dave.
"Last time I checked, that was a significant sin. Possibly in the top 10?" @nemock Nice nemock. Now once again with science and math. Show how Dr. Tour lied about anything. You probably are repeating ninth grade science as we speak and the evo. and abio. talking points you teacher taught you are still fresh in your mind.
Yet nothing he has claimed is unscientific and nobody has described in scientific terms how you got complex organized living organisms out of inorganic matter. Or point to living organisms totally created artificially and are now growing, living and multiplying
@@DrMichael-T-7777 that is false, Christians would describe that as bearing false witness. Of course, this is a continuing field of research, but stop lying, and suggesting that many researchers in this field are clueless on the subject. All you people seem to have is gaslighting and rhetoric.
And Sagan said we are stardust, and we are carbon-based life. I don't see what's the contradiction there. What's your point my ultramaterialist buddy? :v
James Tour is one of the greatest grifters and liars on the internet. He has already debunked all of Origin of Life Research on UA-cam, but has published ZERO rebuttals of OoL papers in academia 😁
I'll paste what I just wrote to another. Did you see Tour's disgraceful display when a debated Prof Dave? It was a disgraceful act by a pig of a man. What was also disgusting was the complete support the so called moderator gave Tour and even butted in with his own questions to Dave.
Yeah, that's why no one will challenge him. And please don't look to the Farina. He is an embarrassment on this subject. I'm sure the truth is very hard to see when you believed your eyes evolved from some ape like creature.
@codonmatrix4510 it's more of an objective fact that Tour is a joke to the science community, but let's hear your opinion but you know what they say about opinions
@@Thespiceynugget Objective? Not even close. If you want a TRUE statement say, "Tour is a joke to the atheistic scientism community." THAT would be a more accurate statement.
@codonmatrix4510 lol no, even Christians, his own colleagues, the only good work he did as a scientist was in the production of graphene, but even in that, he contributed basic nothing to it
The more science I learn, the more amazing God is.
A have different experience, more knowladge fewer "god gaps"
That's the sad thing - Jimmy Thinner Than Thong needs for his particular theology this gap to plug his god into.
If you learn enough biology, you will actually stop seeing God behind all this.
The more I read James Tour, the more I see how confused he is, caught between his Jewish origin, his scientific background, and his newly found Christian conversion:
"I have been labeled as an Intelligent Design (sometimes called “ID”) proponent. I am not. I do not know how to use science to prove intelligent design although some others might. I am sympathetic to the arguments and I find some of them intriguing, but I prefer to be free of that intelligent design label. As a modern-day scientist, I do not know how to prove intelligent design using my most sophisticated analytical tools- the canonical tools are, by their own admission, inadequate to answer the intelligent design question. I cannot lay the issue at the doorstep of a benevolent creator or even an impersonal intelligent designer. All I can presently say is that my chemical tools do not permit my assessment of intelligent design." - James Tour August 2019
Intelligent design is common sense. A logical conclusion derived from knowledge.
Excellent content. The world needs more Dr. Tours, intelligent people at the top of their field who boldly proclaim the Truth of the Gospels.
Always good to hear from Dr Tour. Keep up the good work.
Even if they manage to make a working cell, all they have proven is that it takes a LOT of smarts.
Lol no
@@Thespiceynugget Then please give us an example of life being created spontaneously from non life. We will be waiting.
@alantasman8273 one word abiogenisis. The wait is over. Plus it wasn't spontaneous it took a long time to even get what you would consider to be cellular life
@@Thespiceynuggetone word, "abiogenesis", which has been failing to prove it's worth, and none of the scietists who promoted it has the dare to say "I've done it".
Also, in order for abiogenesis to be true, no being with intelligent can be accepted to be involved in providing any process to make life. If one person is involved to provide the so called "right conditions", abiogenesis failed. For there was no one there to provide the "right conditions" for life at the beginning of life. Abiogenesis now can only be called hypothesis, not theory.
@binhanh296 lmao, the fact that you said that shows you don't understand it and just because you don't understand it doesn't make it false. Gold star for trying, tho 🌟
O LORD , I have heard the report of you, and your work, O LORD , do I fear. In the midst of the years revive it; in the midst of the years make it known; in wrath remember mercy....You went out for the salvation of your people, for the salvation of your anointed. You crushed the head of the house of the wicked, laying him bare from thigh to neck. Selah(Habakkuk3:2,13 ESV)
Only Jesus Christ is life.
Jesus Christ is dead.
@@galileog8945 The tomb is empty~
@@hotarukaleidos he is still dead regardless of where his remains may be.
Thank you!
Dr Tour should try to bring the flow of free energy through prebiotic solutions into the discussion since that is how already living cells get along.
Somehow abiogenesis happend, just we dont know how yet and we are far to make it happend - Dr. James Tour
Great video with great content; I have a science crush on Dr, Tour, and I geek out on his explanations of the organic chemistry!
However, the production quality of the video leaves something to be desired. Specifically, the significant differences in volume between Abdu’s microphone and Dr Tour’s microphone is extremely frustrating. I had to adjust the volume constantly during the video.
Thanks for bringing our attention to this! Haven't had this issue before, but we did learn a valuable lesson about video editing after you pointed this out, and have taken steps to avoid it in the future.
Somehow, I don’t experience any mic issues. Christ bless!
Always the same. "Abiogenesis is not possible because I don't want to see a way it can, but you must believe the worldwide flood is true."
Well, you explain to me how you get a random process to create specified information, and also ate the same time has molecular machines ready to read the specified information, and follow the instructions to build the structure the information coded for
@@jasperkloosterman747 I don't think you are going to get any answers.
Definitely no evidence of a worldwide flood despite the fact the majority of the earth's surface is covered in waterborne sedimentary deposits.. never mind fossilisation on a scale that is not reproducible today.. fossil graveyards, polystratic fossils.. preserved soft tissue remains in fossil T-REX supposedly over 65 million years old.. definitely no evidence for that.
Who has blind faith.. atheists.. they don't follow the evidence.
James tours honesty disturbs a lot of people on abiogenisis, he has never said its impossible here merely states we are nowhere knowing
@@jasperkloosterman747 Actually I think life is almost inevitable if the conditions are right. All you need is a molecule that can act as its own template for it to copy itself. It doesn't need to be very good. If one copy in a hundred works, that's enough as long as the rate of production exceeds the rate of destruction. Random variations will be better and they will come to dominate and evolution will occur from there.
All this talk of "information" is just a way of mystifying the process.
@@alanG3806 interesting response. You think it’s almost inevitable if the conditions are right. What kind of conditions would you need for random processes to create specified information systems and the machines to read the information and build the structure that the information coded for?
I feel like you’re giving me a lot of hope on winning the lottery, even though I never buy any lottery tickets. I just have to wait for the right conditions, and it’s almost inevitable
I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups, rather than to make men happy. ~Bertrand Russell, "Icarus: or, The Future of Science," 1924
His basic premise is "we don't understand the process by which life could arise from organic molecular precursors, therefore a god must have done it. Not just any god, but the one I happen to believe in."
Obviously garbage logic. A textbook example of the "god of the gaps" fallacy. Also called the "I don't know, therefore I know" fallacy.
Relax. Take a deep breath in and out. It's not worth stressing over.
There is an enormous body of research and multiple conferences. There is nothing failure about it. James Tour has been humiliated in front of his peers in public on multiple occasions for lying about the current state of origin of life research and for calling some of his colleagues frauds. We've all seen the video of him at Harvard being laughed at by his peers. Sorry, but you are bearing false witness by claiming that there is no science behind abiogenesis. Last time I checked, that was a significant sin. Possibly in the top 10?
Did you see Tour's disgraceful display when a debated Prof Dave? It was a disgraceful act by a pig of a man. What was also disgusting was the complete support the so called moderator gave Tour and even butted in with his own questions to Dave.
"Last time I checked, that was a significant sin. Possibly in the top 10?"
@nemock Nice nemock. Now once again with science and math.
Show how Dr. Tour lied about anything. You probably are repeating ninth grade
science as we speak and the evo. and abio. talking points you teacher taught you
are still fresh in your mind.
Yet nothing he has claimed is unscientific and nobody has described in scientific terms how you got complex organized living organisms out of inorganic matter.
Or point to living organisms totally created artificially and are now growing, living and multiplying
@@DrMichael-T-7777 that is false, Christians would describe that as bearing false witness. Of course, this is a continuing field of research, but stop lying, and suggesting that many researchers in this field are clueless on the subject. All you people seem to have is gaslighting and rhetoric.
@@DrMichael-T-7777 So we have not made a cell yet therefore God. The logic of a creationist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The science is on this. Yahweh formed man out of clay and breathed life into him. LOL
And Sagan said we are stardust, and we are carbon-based life. I don't see what's the contradiction there. What's your point my ultramaterialist buddy? :v
James Tour is one of the greatest grifters and liars on the internet.
He has already debunked all of Origin of Life Research on UA-cam, but has published ZERO rebuttals of OoL papers in academia 😁
I'll paste what I just wrote to another.
Did you see Tour's disgraceful display when a debated Prof Dave? It was a disgraceful act by a pig of a man. What was also disgusting was the complete support the so called moderator gave Tour and even butted in with his own questions to Dave.
Yeah, that's why no one will challenge him. And please don't look to the Farina. He is an embarrassment on this subject. I'm sure the truth is very hard to see when you believed your eyes evolved from some ape like creature.
Please reference any published OoL research you have read.
@@sentientflower7891 I'm a science communicator, I've read dozens and dozens of papers on the topic
@@francescoghizzo that's great. Which Abiogenesis pathway do you prefer? How many Abiogenesis pathways are available?
I saw the title, but as soon as i got to jame tour, i instantly lost interest
So? You know what they say about opinions?
@codonmatrix4510 it's more of an objective fact that Tour is a joke to the science community, but let's hear your opinion but you know what they say about opinions
@@Thespiceynugget Objective? Not even close. If you want a TRUE statement say, "Tour is a joke to the atheistic scientism community." THAT would be a more accurate statement.
Because you are running away from the Truth and the Life - Jesus Christ, who is working in and through Dr James Tour and all the Lord’s disciples
@codonmatrix4510 lol no, even Christians, his own colleagues, the only good work he did as a scientist was in the production of graphene, but even in that, he contributed basic nothing to it