The new crown guards are way better. The old ones were hideous looking. They are why I wouldn’t buy one previously. I bought the green dial new GMT one. Way to go Longines for improving the Conquest.
I hated the hugo crown guards, but this new watch looks better with the smallr crown guards to point in opposite directions. I understand that it was THE detail that made you recognise the Hydroconquest, but it was a subtle and refined as a brick.
On one hand I would stand with Roman in that they were a key design feature of the classic Hydroconquest. However, I myself experienced one time that the crown guard cut into my wrist, so I see why they would have changed it. For me, they also could have flattened them a bit but keep the overall shape. I love the design of the new GMT overall, especially having the GMT function on the rehaut and looking that well while keeping the divers bezel. Thats what I basically do with my Formex Reef GMT. What I don't like is that they dropped the big arabic numbers. They should have kept it and then maybe still have the hour markers changed to batons, but I miss the numerals, they said "I am a Hydroconquest". What I wonder about - there are three or four videos having deeper looks at this watch at this time, and in one it even can be seen that this is a TRUE GMT watch in that the hour hand jumps while the seconds run. THAT is astounding and none of these videos mention it! I would much rather have expected a caller GMT for this one.
The new crown guards are a definite upgrade to the vast majority of people who own or have owned a hydroconquest. I’ll be adding this watch to my collection for sure.
The new crown guards are what makes this watch so attractive to me now. The one thing about the traditional hydro conquest that I do not like, are those odd/sharp crown guards. To me it makes it look cheap.
I hate the old hydro conquest crown guard. It's oversized and it digs on your wrist. It's unique though, but that is it. Keeping the old crown guard with this new design would make it disproportion, and would disrupt the design language.
The crownguards are just like the Omega Divemaster 300M, exactly the same. I do like them more... I think I am going to give my blue Hydroconquest to my father, he loves the big numbers on it. And buy the GMT in blue for me. Ill make it my travel, do everything watch. Is perfect. To travel, for holidays, etc. Its just incredible.
For me it's actually the other way around. I'm finally willing to buy one. The old huge angled crown guards always prevented me from buying one. I found them hideous. They finally saw the light and made some proper normal crown guards. Needless to say, I absolutely love everything about the watch now.
11:30 coming from a proud owner of the hydroconquest USA edition, I might say that the new crown and crown guard design on the GMT is better as it doesn't hurt to wind the watch anymore, and it won't get caught up in long sleeves too. Not only it applies with the new hydroconquest gmt but also the new conquest for 2023. And personally I think it's a warm welcome as I honestly thought that this crown guard design of them need to go as painful as I might said it. It has better for my finger to grip to the crown and to quickly wind it up without scraping the finger's dead skins.
Thank you very much for stopping by! I personally never had any issues winding the watch or setting up the watch. But i do understand that this a more of a personal preference! Needless to say, i love the whole hydroconquest line! And the gmt one is fire!!
Personally I think it's the ridge on the end of the crown itself that digs into the finger/thumb and not the crown guards themselves so much. At least it seems that way to how I wind it. It's not a big concern for me either though
Respectfully, a "major problem" is a tangible and objective flaw, not something you don't like subjectively. The HC Gmt of course has some elements that can be improved (like all watches), the bezel action could be better (isn't that true also for the Seamaster 300?) , the wearability is very good, but the lugs could be a tad more curved. Other than that, we can argue that it should be COSC just like the Zulu (even if mine has been running as COSC for weeks), that it could have screws in the bracelet instead of pins and maybe bring out the usual 21mm/19mm lug width critique, even though now there are plenty of options for uneven widths. I found the old crown guards very uncomfortable and ugly, as I found the numerals design unappealing and very 90's. Does the HC Gmt draw from other brands here and there? Yes, but it's far from a homage, it's simply a more standard and broad appealing design.
Massive upgrade over the previous standard version, especially the bracelet with taper and nice quick release micro adjustment, really glad they got rid of the 300meter script off the clasp too, one of the reasons I never bought the previous version. This new one really reminds me of the new sub, case shape, size and even down to the lug width, looks like that's what they have gone for, I'll wait for the standard version to come out as I have no need for a GMT and should be cheaper.
@@BORN2LOSE13 just an assumption, but can't see any reason why they would totally redesign the line just for a GMT, then not bring other versions out??
I really enjoyed your video. You are just as passionate about Hydroconquest model as I am, and I have two of them. In my opinion you are a bit overreacting about crownguards. I always felt they have quite sharp edges and sometimes even hurting my fingers when I was wounding the watch. I think many Hydroconquest owners had the same feedback and Longines decided to round them up a little. Still I think the new gmt model does not look anything like a sub, it looks distinguished and classy diver.
Great review!! but for me the crown guards no a big deal, do prefer de elimination of the Arabic numbers, more elegant and cleaner look. This is a Greta watch.
The new release lost its identity to the previous one especially the hr marker. From a distance you know its a longines. New it looks like a Tag or a rolex homage. Sad.
overall great video. You did a really good job conveying your thoughts and opinions. A few points - 7:28 Two words: Breitling Superocean. The previous gen of course. It had a fantastic 12, 6 , and 9 and it unequivocally has the best lume to ever grace the hands of any dive watch. Even better than any Seiko. 10:36 This was a very interesting take from you. The first thing that caught my attention when I first saw this watch, was how they had ripped off the lugs from the Rolex Submariner. Same with the side slab of the case. Ripped off directly from the sub. If you look at the lugs, It's really difficult not to think modern day submariner. Its still a beautiful watch this Longines, but it just has so much submariner DNA. I hadnt even really considered the crown guards until you brought it up. And you're right! Very subby. Its just interesting how I instantly picked up on the lugs and the side of the case and you the crown guards 😂. This is a great watch , but too much submariner influence imho.
New subscriber here!! Great vid!👍🏾 This piece is very beautiful but i have an issue with the price. The Mido Ocean Star 600 is COSC certified for only $1700 retail. I do understand that the Longines is a true gmt now. I just wished it was COSC certified as well. Great vid again and look forward to what's to come!
I agree with your opinion Roman. I know that many people did not like the sharp angular crown guards and the large arabic numerals. By removing them however, it makes the watch look significantly more generic (Like many other dive watches). I know that Longines still has excellent finishing but I look at these and think that there is less to seperate these models from a MIDO Oceanstar, Oris Aquis or Tudor Pelagos/Black Bay. Also, the three different indices (upside down triangle at 12, circle at 6 and 9, rectangles at remaining) are done better elsewhere. A good example is the Tudor Pelagos where the rectangles are used at 6 and 9, which should be more prominent. Finally, the price is somewhat high too. $3600.00 CAD for a non-chronometer certified movement? The Longines Zulu Time is not that far off from these HC models and the movement in them is certified chronometer. The sad thing is that when I acquired my Zulu Time, the retail price was the same $3600.00 (and I got a significant discount to lower it even further). This last point is seen with many other watch brands too (constant price increases, poorer value than in years past) so this is not completely on Longines. On the plus side, I like the new bracelet and clasp, significantly better than the current model (clasp is easily the worst part on current HC models right now). The thinness of the watch is also impressive. These models are thinner than my Longines Zulu Time GMT and I didn't find it too thick at all. Overall, not for me. I would not buy one even if I did not have my two tone HydroConquest with ceramic bezel but I hope it does well. Longines as a brand is great for quality and finishing.
This is exactly why I find this hobby so interesting. I love Longines and their designs, I've had a Conquest V.H.P. and I always wanted to buy the Hydroconquest but I didn't only because of the CROWN GUARDS, I really didn't like those. I will wait with the new Hydroconquest for the three hand model and also because I will definitely buy the new Conquest Chronograph 42 which I'm in love with 😊
The crown guard got changed from many people complaining the edges were to sharp. Longines listened. Now people are upset the crown guards look like a homage, smh. I agree tho, the big numbers should of stayed.
I own the black ceramic bezel HC on 41 mm. I've always thought the one thing thata keeps it from perfect are the crown guards. They are just too big. I like the fact that they represent the longines logo, but being honest I always wanted it to have this same old submariner crown guards... But even with that I don't think I would replace it for this new lineup, I love the big numbers. I feel its like if a submariner had a child with an explorer lol.
That is what the Spirit Zulu Time watch is for. There is a market for GMT watches with a timing bezel, yet there are very few watches that meet this demand. I think this watch is awesome and I bought a green dial version.
So, all video mostly is a complaining about new case ledges, used for crown protection in a dive watches usually, which are now designed in a more soft lines (as most other luxury brands, Rolex, Omega, etc.), rather than use of previous triangle sharp design for that ledges. And that's a deal of taste! Longines becomes more mature brand for luxury mechanical watches, especially in terms of modern design of watches. Longines now is a strong contender for Tudor and other brands. I love the new Longines design for case and crown, and new clasp (the previous clasp design was a horrible one!). This definitely now my kind of a wristwatch!
No not all video. I complained about the guards only at the end of the video. I praised the watch mostly. I agree that Longines has become more mature brand. I simply don’t like the new crown guards. The old ones worked just as well and were different than any i seen out there.
probably would have subscribed but you waffled back and forth and beat around the bush.. stop wasting your viewers time -- for others he is getting at the crown guards. longines redesigned them to be more modern and less blocky/fashion trend.. subjective but an improvement in my view
I think it’s fair on my own channel to mention things I don’t like right? I don’t care that Longines redesigned them to be more modern. I see nothing but a generic design copied from a bigger guy.
I totally get your frustrated feeling about the crown guard. Truly an identifiable detail that is gone now... Tho now with the GMT complication, the crown could also have come with a 0-24 numbers but... ..yeah, it would make it look like a R...X GMT master II... So... guessing Longines can't have us all happy...
Just a little reminder that the first dive watch, Fifty Fathoms has the 12, 3, 6 and 9 numerals. Though I agree with u that these features should be kept on the new ones. Smaller sizing preferably. But the crown guards, as mentioned by your goodself. I am not complaining. Great that they have it in nato straps, but a jubilee strap would be a killer!
Personally, I think the new crown guards are better. One thing that would make it perfect for me would be a display case back. Would buy it immediately. Other companies have it with their divers. Small thing but I love staring at the movement sometimes.
That’s So interesting because i have zero feelings for opened caseback 😂 not interested to see the movement of a dive watch . But thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.
I can see where you're coming from, the crown guards are definitely styled after Rolex, however the old crown was really unflattering and I'm glad that got changed. Where these new crown guards really work are on the regular Conquest 2023, such a nice watch for around €2k. On a sidenote, adding the GMT hand to have a jack of all trades watch appealing to the ordinary person doesn't work on a dive watch in my opinion, it also adds unnecessary thickness to the watch, not that this watch is particularly beefy to begin with.
agree that it looks more like Submariner... but I like that lugs are shorter now which makes it more wearable, I think they were too long in the older design. Another thing that I not quite like is round markers on 6 and 9 ... they look strange in this design imho
beautiful watch but for me using circles at 6 and 9 does not make sense and I did not like the 6 and 9 on the previous model. I would much prefer to spend more and get the new tudor bb red bezel 41
I find the new crown guards much more beautiful than the originals. The originals are bulky, sharp, chunky, they're great but not beautiful. This new ones actually complement the lines of the watch. I like the change. And i aslo like thay they removed the oversized 12, 6 and 9 numbers. They were really ugly and disproportionate. Well olinion is an opinion.
Thanks for your opinion. There’s no wrong or right in this case. Just preference. I just see the Sub way too much in this watch. That’s it. Other than that is great
@@romanmoruz actually I understand your point about it being too resembling a Submariner (sort of the industry standard). I myself am rocking a black Aquaracer 300. Really loving it, and it's totally different from the "standard". I just wish they gave it a COSC movement. Longines does it for a thousand bucks less...
The old crown guards were absolutely hideous. They were the reason I wouldn’t have ever worn that watch, even if it were given to me. Absolutely hated them. The new watch is much more attractive. Too expensive for what it is, but I’d at least wear one if it were given to me.
This is way better than the old one. I have the old style Hydroconquest Chronograph. It’s a bulky watch and with the bracelet, it’s too much. The bracelet is well made but like the regular hydro conquest, it has no taper and is thick. Micro adjustment was a problem for me too. I wear it on a leather or rubber and it makes it look a whole lot better. The new bracelet looks great with the taper and it’s not as thick. Big improvement there! Love the color, especially the green. The crown guards are better now in my opinion but that could be because I have the old style chrono. You’re right though, they’re a duplicate of the Sub crown guards. The 6, 9 and 12 I liked! I’m kinda disappointed in that. It was a way of distinguishing it from the Sub. I guess that and the crown guards. I travel a lot so I’m into the GMT function. I’m curious to know if it’s a True GMT like the Spirit. All in all, this watch is beautiful. Big ups to the design team.
Roman, it’s your “ME” thing. New crown guards are beautiful. The whole watch is stunning! One thing you did not mention is whether this this a boring CallerGMT or exciting TravelerGMT. My guess is CallerGMT at this price point. Although Mido Ocean Star GMT is a True or Real or Travelers GMT - for about 1200 bucks. SWEET! Oh, and… Roman, lose that TV in the background. Picture and sound are irritating. And yes, that whole video could have been half as long as somebody else already pointed out. Ciao!
I understand everything, but how can the new crown guards be “beautiful “ if every dive watch has those exact same guards? No originality at all Will work on the length and music. Thank you 🙏🏼
again, Roman - it's your "ME" thing. It's all good. different people, different tastes, eh. Just because it's different, it doesn't mean it is better. Ever checked into REAL GMT or not?
It's an absolutely stunning piece. I have been saving to buy the Zulu Time but I'm now going to have to visit an AD to try both to see which I prefer. Do you know why all the brands are using these guards? Not because they're simply copying the design but BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY FUNCTION BETTER THAN OTHER DESIGNS!! Sorry for shouting but I needed to fully convey my frustration. It absolutely baffles me that you didn't consider that.
I considered that. I just don’t give a shit about it. I love the old crown guard better and hate the new ones no matter how much they “work” or look like sub!
@@romanmoruz it's a dive watch! It's supposed to perform a function to the best of it's ability. Function over form is paramount in a tool watch. And you're wrong anyway 👨🏻🦲👍🏻
@@seanhickling7340 old guards functioned just as good. You’re just submariner rider that’s why u love it so much. It became just another boring Watch looking like every other watch
@@romanmoruz Stop crying and get a grip. I'm no sad Rolex fanboy; I just understand watch functionality. Rolex wasn't the first with that guard style either. They also copied it due to it's superior functionality. Anybody with even the most basic knowledge of watches knows that. I'd stick to fashion watches if I were you as your true knowledge of horology is severely limited. Take care 👋🏻👨🏻🦲
I see a bit of aqua racer and a bit of breitling thrown into a rolex sub maxi case. I think it was one of the old superocean designs with the triangle at the top and batton markers that im thinking of. I mean it looks good, but yeh a tad generic compared to the old version.
Great video Roman. Enjoyed this one a lot. I was digging this watch a lot until the thing you pointed out in the end!! I have been on the road and haven’t been checking any watch news so this was actually the first I have heard about it. I like the overall aesthetic and designs of this watch as a whole and I am actually surprised they released it since they have the spirit Zulu GMT. You have great points throughout and I definitely agree on the crown guards. It was something unique that set it apart. I am a big fan of the now tapered bracelet and the fact that the bracelet now looks brushed as opposed to polished center links. While this watch is definitely an amazing watch at almost 3k msrp it’s going to be hard to compete with say a used black bay gmt. I think it’s definitely a good step though for the brand. Longines have been focusing slot on their heritage models so I like they are also updating and paying attention to their more modern releases and designs like this.
I think Longines has always done good things and even now they know what they’re doing. Overall i think this watch is gorgeous! I really love it! There’s just that one detail for me that pisses me off but i think i’ll get used to it 😀 Thanks for stopping by buddy and sharing this! Drive safe!
@@romanmoruz and sell many more watches and maintain much better resell value. Like it or not…there are design elements that people like and some that people dońt like. I have own two hydroconquest watches and the anglular crown guards are not clicking with buyers…more people dislike them, then like them.
I understand that more people dislike the old ones. I love them and there is nothing wrong with that. Why did they have to make the new guards 100% same as the sub? My problem is that this was lazy and they could have done better.
He just wanted to get some additional views with a negative opinion- pure marketing stunt: kept till the end of the whole video to reveal it.. such a gimmick.. I had 2019 model blue Hydroconquest - sold it later.. neither the crown not the clasp was not okay at all.. but I loved the watch.. planning to buy the chronographs if they launch with Gmt next year.. prefers an open case back as well.. but not expecting from Longines though for the Hydroconquest
11:36 Nope, you are 100% spot on. Way too submariner homagey. Dude, even look at the bracelet. Sure its not an oyster bracelet and more of an H link bracelet, but cmon we all know they try to design it as close to the oyster as they could.
I agree the crown guards could be a lot better, but I did not like the old ones much, and crown guards are often poorly designed. This looks one of the most interesting new watches I have seen for a long time, and look forward to seeing it on the wrist.
It definitely is one of the most interesting new watches out there at the moment. I love it too but somehow it feels like I am one of the few that really loved the old guards. Thanks for stopping by!
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The new crown guards are way better. The old ones were hideous looking. They are why I wouldn’t buy one previously. I bought the green dial new GMT one. Way to go Longines for improving the Conquest.
I tried it on a few day again and didn’t love it. Put my old one on my wrist again and it’s way better. Each with their own preferences i guess
Me too 🤝
I hated the hugo crown guards, but this new watch looks better with the smallr crown guards to point in opposite directions. I understand that it was THE detail that made you recognise the Hydroconquest, but it was a subtle and refined as a brick.
Yeah like i said it might just be a Me thing because it looks like more people like then new crown guards better 😀
On one hand I would stand with Roman in that they were a key design feature of the classic Hydroconquest. However, I myself experienced one time that the crown guard cut into my wrist, so I see why they would have changed it. For me, they also could have flattened them a bit but keep the overall shape.
I love the design of the new GMT overall, especially having the GMT function on the rehaut and looking that well while keeping the divers bezel. Thats what I basically do with my Formex Reef GMT.
What I don't like is that they dropped the big arabic numbers. They should have kept it and then maybe still have the hour markers changed to batons, but I miss the numerals, they said "I am a Hydroconquest".
What I wonder about - there are three or four videos having deeper looks at this watch at this time, and in one it even can be seen that this is a TRUE GMT watch in that the hour hand jumps while the seconds run. THAT is astounding and none of these videos mention it! I would much rather have expected a caller GMT for this one.
The new crown guards are a definite upgrade to the vast majority of people who own or have owned a hydroconquest. I’ll be adding this watch to my collection for sure.
Glad you like it! 👍
I love the new crown guards. I never bought a Hydroconquest because I hated the crown guards.
The new crown guards are what makes this watch so attractive to me now. The one thing about the traditional hydro conquest that I do not like, are those odd/sharp crown guards. To me it makes it look cheap.
I got nothing to say at this point 😀 I guess it’s just preference. Glad you like it though! It’s a beautiful watch!
I hate the old hydro conquest crown guard. It's oversized and it digs on your wrist. It's unique though, but that is it. Keeping the old crown guard with this new design would make it disproportion, and would disrupt the design language.
Very interesting because i find it very comfortable
The crownguards are just like the Omega Divemaster 300M, exactly the same. I do like them more...
I think I am going to give my blue Hydroconquest to my father, he loves the big numbers on it. And buy the GMT in blue for me. Ill make it my travel, do everything watch.
Is perfect. To travel, for holidays, etc. Its just incredible.
Hey thanks for sharing! That’s awesome! Glad you love it!
For a cheap watch I see zero problems here. Great addition.
How to say .. I wouldn’t say this is a cheap watch
“Cheap watch”…… ok baller 🙄
@@imhighonlife9075 if it’s not cheap to you then you shouldn’t be on UA-cam.
Excellent review
Hope they bring out a non GMT version in brown as they colour looks unbelievable
Certina has something similar to what you want, their titanium DS Action Diver. That'll be your watch.
I love the new one so much that I bought it today! It’s an absolute stunner of a watch especially with those crown guards, at least for me.
Glad you love it brother! Enjoy!
For me it's actually the other way around. I'm finally willing to buy one.
The old huge angled crown guards always prevented me from buying one. I found them hideous. They finally saw the light and made some proper normal crown guards. Needless to say, I absolutely love everything about the watch now.
I realized at this point that I am from the very few people that love the old guards. Didn't know that until I saw the comment section of my video 😂
11:30 coming from a proud owner of the hydroconquest USA edition, I might say that the new crown and crown guard design on the GMT is better as it doesn't hurt to wind the watch anymore, and it won't get caught up in long sleeves too. Not only it applies with the new hydroconquest gmt but also the new conquest for 2023. And personally I think it's a warm welcome as I honestly thought that this crown guard design of them need to go as painful as I might said it. It has better for my finger to grip to the crown and to quickly wind it up without scraping the finger's dead skins.
Thank you very much for stopping by! I personally never had any issues winding the watch or setting up the watch. But i do understand that this a more of a personal preference! Needless to say, i love the whole hydroconquest line! And the gmt one is fire!!
Personally I think it's the ridge on the end of the crown itself that digs into the finger/thumb and not the crown guards themselves so much. At least it seems that way to how I wind it. It's not a big concern for me either though
Respectfully, a "major problem" is a tangible and objective flaw, not something you don't like subjectively. The HC Gmt of course has some elements that can be improved (like all watches), the bezel action could be better (isn't that true also for the Seamaster 300?) , the wearability is very good, but the lugs could be a tad more curved. Other than that, we can argue that it should be COSC just like the Zulu (even if mine has been running as COSC for weeks), that it could have screws in the bracelet instead of pins and maybe bring out the usual 21mm/19mm lug width critique, even though now there are plenty of options for uneven widths. I found the old crown guards very uncomfortable and ugly, as I found the numerals design unappealing and very 90's. Does the HC Gmt draw from other brands here and there? Yes, but it's far from a homage, it's simply a more standard and broad appealing design.
Hey thanks for sharing this. You’re right
Looks good to me. I prefer indices over Arabic numerals, so this is an improvement. I'm agnostic about the crown guards.
Yeah I understand! Thanks for stopping by!
Massive upgrade over the previous standard version, especially the bracelet with taper and nice quick release micro adjustment, really glad they got rid of the 300meter script off the clasp too, one of the reasons I never bought the previous version. This new one really reminds me of the new sub, case shape, size and even down to the lug width, looks like that's what they have gone for, I'll wait for the standard version to come out as I have no need for a GMT and should be cheaper.
Yes I totally agree with you? Thanks for sharing this!
They are making a standard version?
@@BORN2LOSE13 just an assumption, but can't see any reason why they would totally redesign the line just for a GMT, then not bring other versions out??
I really enjoyed your video. You are just as passionate about Hydroconquest model as I am, and I have two of them. In my opinion you are a bit overreacting about crownguards. I always felt they have quite sharp edges and sometimes even hurting my fingers when I was wounding the watch. I think many Hydroconquest owners had the same feedback and Longines decided to round them up a little. Still I think the new gmt model does not look anything like a sub, it looks distinguished and classy diver.
Thank you for stopping by and liking my video!
Great review!! but for me the crown guards no a big deal, do prefer de elimination of the Arabic numbers, more elegant and cleaner look. This is a Greta watch.
It’s only a matter of taste at this point. Which I definitely respect. Thank you
The new release lost its identity to the previous one especially the hr marker. From a distance you know its a longines. New it looks like a Tag or a rolex homage. Sad.
Bingo! That’s exactly what I’m feeling too and it makes me sad
I really like the crown guard myself. What I miss the most on this one is the 12 , 6 and 9. It would've made it stand out from all the rest.
Yes i miss the 12 9 and 6 too. We all got preferences i guess 😂
Just seen a video where someone has one in their hand, and the gap between end link and first "H" link looks HUGE!! 😭
No way .. 😂😂
Lol who really needs a GMT….it’s a desirable complication
In general we don’t really need one. But it’s nice to have one 😂
Ceramic bezel on the green version look more to black or matt green?
Black
I agree with you. Everybody should stop trying to make exact copies of previously successful versions... Kinda like the movie industry.
100% . It’s too much
overall great video. You did a really good job conveying your thoughts and opinions. A few points - 7:28 Two words: Breitling Superocean. The previous gen of course. It had a fantastic 12, 6 , and 9 and it unequivocally has the best lume to ever grace the hands of any dive watch. Even better than any Seiko. 10:36 This was a very interesting take from you. The first thing that caught my attention when I first saw this watch, was how they had ripped off the lugs from the Rolex Submariner. Same with the side slab of the case. Ripped off directly from the sub. If you look at the lugs, It's really difficult not to think modern day submariner. Its still a beautiful watch this Longines, but it just has so much submariner DNA. I hadnt even really considered the crown guards until you brought it up. And you're right! Very subby. Its just interesting how I instantly picked up on the lugs and the side of the case and you the crown guards 😂. This is a great watch , but too much submariner influence imho.
I 100% agree with you! Thanks for stopping by and engaging!
New subscriber here!! Great vid!👍🏾 This piece is very beautiful but i have an issue with the price. The Mido Ocean Star 600 is COSC certified for only $1700 retail. I do understand that the Longines is a true gmt now. I just wished it was COSC certified as well. Great vid again and look forward to what's to come!
I totally agree with you! Thanks for subscribing and being part of my journey here??
Omg stop and show us the watch not your self
Shut up clown
As Longines collector I will be buying this, I really didn't like the old design...They got this one right, i hope the LUM is decent.
Yeah it’s a great watch. I just lean more towards the old one. But i do really love the bracelet on the new one! Thanks for stopping by!
New crown guards are better tho
I don’t think so
I like the crown guards!
That’s great
I agree with your opinion Roman. I know that many people did not like the sharp angular crown guards and the large arabic numerals. By removing them however, it makes the watch look significantly more generic (Like many other dive watches). I know that Longines still has excellent finishing but I look at these and think that there is less to seperate these models from a MIDO Oceanstar, Oris Aquis or Tudor Pelagos/Black Bay. Also, the three different indices (upside down triangle at 12, circle at 6 and 9, rectangles at remaining) are done better elsewhere. A good example is the Tudor Pelagos where the rectangles are used at 6 and 9, which should be more prominent. Finally, the price is somewhat high too. $3600.00 CAD for a non-chronometer certified movement? The Longines Zulu Time is not that far off from these HC models and the movement in them is certified chronometer. The sad thing is that when I acquired my Zulu Time, the retail price was the same $3600.00 (and I got a significant discount to lower it even further). This last point is seen with many other watch brands too (constant price increases, poorer value than in years past) so this is not completely on Longines.
On the plus side, I like the new bracelet and clasp, significantly better than the current model (clasp is easily the worst part on current HC models right now). The thinness of the watch is also impressive. These models are thinner than my Longines Zulu Time GMT and I didn't find it too thick at all.
Overall, not for me. I would not buy one even if I did not have my two tone HydroConquest with ceramic bezel but I hope it does well. Longines as a brand is great for quality and finishing.
I think you summarized it the best here! Thank you for stopping by and sharing this!
I miss the oversized Arabic numerals
Yeah i do too!
Are u insane!
@@AndroBoy17 nah boy. Are you?
This is exactly why I find this hobby so interesting. I love Longines and their designs, I've had a Conquest V.H.P. and I always wanted to buy the Hydroconquest but I didn't only because of the CROWN GUARDS, I really didn't like those. I will wait with the new Hydroconquest for the three hand model and also because I will definitely buy the new Conquest Chronograph 42 which I'm in love with 😊
Haha i love this too. We’re so different and peaky with out watches that brand can’t just make us happy all at once 😀
Thanks for stopping by!
The crown guard got changed from many people complaining the edges were to sharp. Longines listened. Now people are upset the crown guards look like a homage, smh. I agree tho, the big numbers should of stayed.
I know .. we all got preferences and brands can’t just satisfy us all at the same time 😂
I disagree!
I own the black ceramic bezel HC on 41 mm. I've always thought the one thing thata keeps it from perfect are the crown guards. They are just too big. I like the fact that they represent the longines logo, but being honest I always wanted it to have this same old submariner crown guards... But even with that I don't think I would replace it for this new lineup, I love the big numbers. I feel its like if a submariner had a child with an explorer lol.
Hahah great analogy 😂😂 yeah i an starting to realize that watch brands can never fully please us all 😂 thanks for stopping by!
Circular dots at 6 and 9. What were they thinking?
They weren’t 😂
It’s kinda weird not having a 24 hour bezel on a GMT…guess that’s my only complaint
I guess Longines can’t satisfy us all at the same time 😂
That is what the Spirit Zulu Time watch is for. There is a market for GMT watches with a timing bezel, yet there are very few watches that meet this demand. I think this watch is awesome and I bought a green dial version.
So, all video mostly is a complaining about new case ledges, used for crown protection in a dive watches usually, which are now designed in a more soft lines (as most other luxury brands, Rolex, Omega, etc.), rather than use of previous triangle sharp design for that ledges.
And that's a deal of taste!
Longines becomes more mature brand for luxury mechanical watches, especially in terms of modern design of watches. Longines now is a strong contender for Tudor and other brands. I love the new Longines design for case and crown, and new clasp (the previous clasp design was a horrible one!). This definitely now my kind of a wristwatch!
No not all video. I complained about the guards only at the end of the video. I praised the watch mostly. I agree that Longines has become more mature brand. I simply don’t like the new crown guards. The old ones worked just as well and were different than any i seen out there.
probably would have subscribed but you waffled back and forth and beat around the bush.. stop wasting your viewers time -- for others he is getting at the crown guards. longines redesigned them to be more modern and less blocky/fashion trend.. subjective but an improvement in my view
I think it’s fair on my own channel to mention things I don’t like right? I don’t care that Longines redesigned them to be more modern. I see nothing but a generic design copied from a bigger guy.
I totally get your frustrated feeling about the crown guard. Truly an identifiable detail that is gone now...
Tho now with the GMT complication, the crown could also have come with a 0-24 numbers but... ..yeah, it would make it look like a R...X GMT master II... So... guessing Longines can't have us all happy...
100% . We all have different preferences right? Overall i do like the watch a lot but I don’t think it’s perfect
The original hydroconquest was ugly as hell. The original crown guards were ugly and too big. This new one will sell like crazy
Original hydroconquest was a beauty! Different from all these Sub wanna be watches
Just a little reminder that the first dive watch, Fifty Fathoms has the 12, 3, 6 and 9 numerals.
Though I agree with u that these features should be kept on the new ones. Smaller sizing preferably.
But the crown guards, as mentioned by your goodself. I am not complaining.
Great that they have it in nato straps, but a jubilee strap would be a killer!
Jubilee would definitely be a fire look!
the old guards wouldnt have looked right on this update. They made the right choice changing them to be more cohesive with the rest of the case
I’ll try to photoshop the old guards on the new Hydroconquest and post it on my instagram
Personally, I think the new crown guards are better. One thing that would make it perfect for me would be a display case back. Would buy it immediately. Other companies have it with their divers. Small thing but I love staring at the movement sometimes.
That’s So interesting because i have zero feelings for opened caseback 😂 not interested to see the movement of a dive watch . But thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.
I can see where you're coming from, the crown guards are definitely styled after Rolex, however the old crown was really unflattering and I'm glad that got changed. Where these new crown guards really work are on the regular Conquest 2023, such a nice watch for around €2k.
On a sidenote, adding the GMT hand to have a jack of all trades watch appealing to the ordinary person doesn't work on a dive watch in my opinion, it also adds unnecessary thickness to the watch, not that this watch is particularly beefy to begin with.
Yeah like I always say we all got different preferences and brands can’t just do as we all want .. it’s okay. The watch is still very beautiful
Yeah you’re completely wrong on the crown guards the new ones look amazing lot more sophisticated.
I am completely right. Sophisticated? Nothing sophisticated about same old guards that every watch has
agree that it looks more like Submariner... but I like that lugs are shorter now which makes it more wearable, I think they were too long in the older design. Another thing that I not quite like is round markers on 6 and 9 ... they look strange in this design imho
I think the reason I’m so upset about the guards is because I don’t like the submariner . People that loooove the sub love this new guards as well
Crown guards do not worry my that much (you have a point though) , but I wish it was a chronometer - this would raise the watch to a new level...
I agree!
The new crown guards don’t bother me. I wish every color had color matched date windows.
Oh i see what u saying. Have u tried to comment this on Longines page? They might see it actually
beautiful watch but for me using circles at 6 and 9 does not make sense and I did not like the 6 and 9 on the previous model. I would much prefer to spend more and get the new tudor bb red bezel 41
The bb red bezel is gorgeous too. Love that watch
The new Hydroconquest is not a GMT... this new Hydroconquest GMT is a new line.
Yes you are right
I prefer the new crown guards and don't miss the large numerals from its predecessor.
Very interesting! Thanks for stopping by
Just hoping that new bracelet fits the old model!
Yeah this new bracelet is just awesome! I’d love to see it on my old HC too
I find the new crown guards much more beautiful than the originals. The originals are bulky, sharp, chunky, they're great but not beautiful. This new ones actually complement the lines of the watch. I like the change. And i aslo like thay they removed the oversized 12, 6 and 9 numbers. They were really ugly and disproportionate. Well olinion is an opinion.
Thanks for your opinion. There’s no wrong or right in this case. Just preference. I just see the Sub way too much in this watch. That’s it. Other than that is great
@@romanmoruz actually I understand your point about it being too resembling a Submariner (sort of the industry standard). I myself am rocking a black Aquaracer 300. Really loving it, and it's totally different from the "standard". I just wish they gave it a COSC movement. Longines does it for a thousand bucks less...
The old crown guards were absolutely hideous. They were the reason I wouldn’t have ever worn that watch, even if it were given to me. Absolutely hated them.
The new watch is much more attractive. Too expensive for what it is, but I’d at least wear one if it were given to me.
To each their own i guess. I love the old guards and know many people that loved them too
I like the new colours!🤎
I do too!
This is way better than the old one. I have the old style Hydroconquest Chronograph. It’s a bulky watch and with the bracelet, it’s too much. The bracelet is well made but like the regular hydro conquest, it has no taper and is thick. Micro adjustment was a problem for me too. I wear it on a leather or rubber and it makes it look a whole lot better. The new bracelet looks great with the taper and it’s not as thick. Big improvement there! Love the color, especially the green. The crown guards are better now in my opinion but that could be because I have the old style chrono. You’re right though, they’re a duplicate of the Sub crown guards. The 6, 9 and 12 I liked! I’m kinda disappointed in that. It was a way of distinguishing it from the Sub. I guess that and the crown guards. I travel a lot so I’m into the GMT function. I’m curious to know if it’s a True GMT like the Spirit. All in all, this watch is beautiful. Big ups to the design team.
Thanks for stopping by and liking my video! Thank you for sharing this!
The new HydroConquests are a true GMT watches. They're equipped with the same movements like the watches in the Spirit line.
Roman, it’s your “ME” thing. New crown guards are beautiful. The whole watch is stunning! One thing you did not mention is whether this this a boring CallerGMT or exciting TravelerGMT. My guess is CallerGMT at this price point. Although Mido Ocean Star GMT is a True or Real or Travelers GMT - for about 1200 bucks. SWEET!
Oh, and… Roman, lose that TV in the background. Picture and sound are irritating.
And yes, that whole video could have been half as long as somebody else already pointed out. Ciao!
I understand everything, but how can the new crown guards be “beautiful “ if every dive watch has those exact same guards? No originality at all
Will work on the length and music. Thank you 🙏🏼
again, Roman - it's your "ME" thing. It's all good. different people, different tastes, eh. Just because it's different, it doesn't mean it is better. Ever checked into REAL GMT or not?
Yes, the watch is a true GMT. It can independently jump your local time forward or backwards
I think the crown guards are perfect now!
Yes, just like the Submariner
It's an absolutely stunning piece. I have been saving to buy the Zulu Time but I'm now going to have to visit an AD to try both to see which I prefer.
Do you know why all the brands are using these guards?
Not because they're simply copying the design but BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY FUNCTION BETTER THAN OTHER DESIGNS!!
Sorry for shouting but I needed to fully convey my frustration. It absolutely baffles me that you didn't consider that.
I considered that. I just don’t give a shit about it. I love the old crown guard better and hate the new ones no matter how much they “work” or look like sub!
@@romanmoruz it's a dive watch! It's supposed to perform a function to the best of it's ability.
Function over form is paramount in a tool watch.
And you're wrong anyway 👨🏻🦲👍🏻
@@seanhickling7340 old guards functioned just as good. You’re just submariner rider that’s why u love it so much. It became just another boring Watch looking like every other watch
@@romanmoruz Stop crying and get a grip.
I'm no sad Rolex fanboy; I just understand watch functionality.
Rolex wasn't the first with that guard style either. They also copied it due to it's superior functionality. Anybody with even the most basic knowledge of watches knows that.
I'd stick to fashion watches if I were you as your true knowledge of horology is severely limited.
Take care 👋🏻👨🏻🦲
@@seanhickling7340 u get wet everytime u see something that looks like rolex and hope u can finally afford something that looks like one
The new crownguards elevated the level of this watch. Bell & Ross also went for it with the BR126 and looks amazing. Some things just are the best
Yes, they look good on B&R. Not on hydroconquest
Love the new crown guards
Good
I see a bit of aqua racer and a bit of breitling thrown into a rolex sub maxi case.
I think it was one of the old superocean designs with the triangle at the top and batton markers that im thinking of.
I mean it looks good, but yeh a tad generic compared to the old version.
Yeah overall it’s a nice looking well made watch
But like we both said, a bit too generic!
Great video Roman. Enjoyed this one a lot. I was digging this watch a lot until the thing you pointed out in the end!! I have been on the road and haven’t been checking any watch news so this was actually the first I have heard about it. I like the overall aesthetic and designs of this watch as a whole and I am actually surprised they released it since they have the spirit Zulu GMT. You have great points throughout and I definitely agree on the crown guards. It was something unique that set it apart. I am a big fan of the now tapered bracelet and the fact that the bracelet now looks brushed as opposed to polished center links.
While this watch is definitely an amazing watch at almost 3k msrp it’s going to be hard to compete with say a used black bay gmt.
I think it’s definitely a good step though for the brand. Longines have been focusing slot on their heritage models so I like they are also updating and paying attention to their more modern releases and designs like this.
I think Longines has always done good things and even now they know what they’re doing.
Overall i think this watch is gorgeous! I really love it! There’s just that one detail for me that pisses me off but i think i’ll get used to it 😀
Thanks for stopping by buddy and sharing this! Drive safe!
rambling, tedious content.
Your mom loves it
@@romanmoruz 🤣
👍👍👍
It’s a you thing.
Okay
Prefer the original with the 12, 6 and 9 indices.
I do too!! We’re the minority from what I’m seeing
Totally disagree with you….the crown guards from the previous version were hideous.
And now they look like just another wanna be submariner
@@romanmoruz and sell many more watches and maintain much better resell value. Like it or not…there are design elements that people like and some that people dońt like. I have own two hydroconquest watches and the anglular crown guards are not clicking with buyers…more people dislike them, then like them.
I understand that more people dislike the old ones. I love them and there is nothing wrong with that. Why did they have to make the new guards 100% same as the sub? My problem is that this was lazy and they could have done better.
He just wanted to get some additional views with a negative opinion- pure marketing stunt: kept till the end of the whole video to reveal it.. such a gimmick.. I had 2019 model blue Hydroconquest - sold it later.. neither the crown not the clasp was not okay at all.. but I loved the watch.. planning to buy the chronographs if they launch with Gmt next year.. prefers an open case back as well.. but not expecting from Longines though for the Hydroconquest
well I'm glad I got your attention until the end 😂 . Also how is that a bad thing?
11:36 Nope, you are 100% spot on. Way too submariner homagey. Dude, even look at the bracelet. Sure its not an oyster bracelet and more of an H link bracelet, but cmon we all know they try to design it as close to the oyster as they could.
100%. Seems that many people love it and i don’t understand why all this hype for anything that is rolex looking
I agree the crown guards could be a lot better, but I did not like the old ones much, and crown guards are often poorly designed.
This looks one of the most interesting new watches I have seen for a long time, and look forward to seeing it on the wrist.
It definitely is one of the most interesting new watches out there at the moment. I love it too but somehow it feels like I am one of the few that really loved the old guards. Thanks for stopping by!
You really don't understand why watch brands copy Rolex? Ok
I do. I don’t like it. How many more videos should i make about that? I don’t like it that’s it. Stop butt kissing rolex
old crown guards are the shape of the longines logo..
Yeah and they looked a lot better
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I agree 100 percent bro…. Looked a lot better before. Side note…. Stop hating on my submariner 😂🤣 haha
Haha bro i love your sub 😂 phenomenal watch! Icon!
You could said it all in 5 min.
So irritating video.
How about you make a good 5 minutes review on it
@@romanmoruz naaaaa, have better things to do.🥱
I thought so