Jagex Will Make Players Rich With Tormented Demon Changes in Oldschool Runescape
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Player complains to Jagex, Jagex makes Oldschool Runescape Player rich
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We want to be cautious, so here is 180 Fire runes.
Giant mole is better lol
We need to keep them as the most traded item in OSRS
Heard you like rune daggers?
1 grimy guam
fuckin
GUAM
or grimy guam. like wtf am I supposed to do with grimy guam
Can't wait for Araxxor to drop a sack of potatoes
Wow that's OP best we can do is 2 potatoes a sack would be like 8!
2 un-noted beers
Prayer pot (2) and trout here we come
@@TheYer290 if araxxor has an ass drop table I'll meet you guys at Falador for the riot
Meme this into existence.
lvl 450 with swapping prayers, and almost guaranteed damage taken.... heres a magic shortbow(u)
It’s almost 0 damage man. They barely swap and only hit like a 20. Just blowpipe spec nerd.
@@wrenandrews3782 normal greater demons drop better things on average
@@wrenandrews3782 dang missed the point, youll get it champ, hang in there.
@@wrenandrews3782 I agree, I take little to no damage, and the first hit(the only one i have a 50% chance of praying correctly if you stand out of melee range. which with lightbearer and BP I can heal up. I dont have room in my inventory until I use up my pots. I come in with 5 food and the rest gear and super restores. I can stay for 15+ kc. If your completing a grandmaster quest you most likely have a blowpipe by now even high level irons are decked out.
@@CLE_Dingos yeah, at least the drops give you enough money to keep up with the use of the blowpipe, and dragon darts.
Jagex doesn't test shit before they release shit.
They get all feedback off sub-1500 level accounts off Reddit
Never have never will
@@MaxiemumKarnagehonestly
I understand you feel that way but I’m a game dev, it isn’t quite so simple. Sometimes you design/develop in a specific way and then you also test the game that way. A high-skill player will play the game differently than a developer, resulting in a different outcome than planned for. A developer cannot possibly plan for every gameplay situation unless you want updates to take literal years to release.
@@SonicjumperHD BuT iM a GaMe DeV
9:46 Strong disagree here dude. I've not really seen anyone give more than a very small handful of people give real abuse, just suggesting that staff members who have a history of repeatedly failing to provide the quality expected should perhaps be demoted or removed. This isn't harassment, it's perfectly justifiable. I could count 15 times kieron alone has utterly fucked it. They fired Mod Trick for that shocking slug menace quest where you killed the queen with a fucking pilar. Someone needs to be seen as being punished or taking accountability, not just someone taking the blame on themselves but the actual ones responsible.
Why do they make twitter accounts if they don't want players to @them directly in order to get their points accross? Why ban a player for opinions outwith the game, especially opinions that may be unconstructive, may even make them emotional for having their work slaughtered, but if you're going to be a marketed face of the business and use a publically facing twitter, you can't moan when people use the tools you've provided them. Jagex do not have a funcitoning customer service team. these people are the face of customer services for jagex, whether they like it or not.
They keep trying to adopt this "team" mentality but honestly accountability needs to be found and specific people need to really be placed on PIPs within jagex. Someone said this on reddit
""You're telling me the WHOLE TEAM looked at Zombie pirates loot tables and was like "yeah that looks good "
What the fuck Jagex? Id rather it be one incompetent person than all of you.""
The same thing goes for the WGS quest. It's like no one who actually plays the game at a variety of levels within the Q.A. team. Do what you did back in 2008-2012 era. hire maxed players who have massive experience of the game and get them stuck into your q.a. team
They repeatedly keep on fucking drop tables, and then have conflicting points about who is to blame when in one instance one mod says x y and z were involved in that process, then you have statements saying the ENTIRE team looked at it. Does no one within Q.A. have a spine anymore? Like back in my day we'd have sent that shit back saying No, Mr Balancer, these drops are bad, and I can provide a justificiable list of reasons it must be changed. Has anyone else listed reasons why they think it's fine beyond "it's fine" ? Pushback was welcomed!
"cautious loot table" that doesnt mean make the mobs worthless, you can just make a decent loot table before release
Best we can do is a grimy guam leaf
They rather severely go under than go over cuz "Ree early bird bonus" is somehow worse than this? Idk 😂
Jagex: we want bone claws to be a spec weapon between the 20k dds and the 100m d claws
Also jagex: 1/1248 drop rate at 30 kc an hour
@@johnbartz1907 ya and you need 2 so better time spend just doing the raid if you want claws
not to mention bone claws seem to be dog shit
@@mintysquinty2989that's actually incorrect. Unlike every other spec weapon, if you change bone claws to stab, the spec rolls off your stab. Meaning they SHRED at some places. Bone claws windmill dunk on voidwaker for toa now.
I mean...what's the drop rate of dragon claws? how much time does it take on average to get d claws vs. to get bone claws?
@@chessmagician2024 bone claws on drop rate are 40 hours.
Drop table was better at elite black knights 😂
Nah bro, fire runes and guams is disrespectful.
15:52 what kind of spoiler alert was that? 😂😂😂😂
I'd like it if they make TD's drop table similar to demonic gorillas or close to it.
That's what i was saying.
The ghosts in the part of the quest where you gotta use herblore supplies on the alters would make sense for the tormented demons to drop noted secondaries
torm demons must be from RS3
because its fucking dogshit
Ppl voted for it lol. Atleast there good slayer xp
Rs2
@@currentcommerce4774 lol good one
Huge upgrades for ironman accounts
Wrong
armchair iron here, i think there always should be 1 reason outside of uniques to kill any creature. and it just need 1 drop that is decend not even great. for tormented demons that could have been the dragon arrow heads. just make those more common.
Wouldnt mind seeing some more wrath runes coming into the game either.
@chief3796 wrath runes would be amazing edit:original comment also a great idea, at least 1 unique and 1 'farm' source for new drop tables like this
@@chief3796yes wrath runes would be great idek the best way to get them other than rc atm
@@julianrogers8608 rune/adamant dragons or vorkath is the only place ive been getting them, and not in quanities where i can seriously use them anywhere
The magic shortbow (u) wasn't doing it for you?
As an iron there is 0 good supply drops to sustain its just a supply sink and as a main there’s no incentive to go there so the uniques won’t come into the game
I bring 6 pray pots and a light bearer pb spec pretty much sustains me (also iron but I’m using Tbow shadow) easy 20 plus kc trips
@@nicholasdurham9469boi has two of the best weapons in the game no shit it’s not hard for you 😂
The drop table really is atrocious. Right now, I’m straight up losing gp fighting these damn things. Buffing it to like 1m/hr without the uniques seems like a reasonable rate to me.
This is why i love playing ironman mode gold is nothing to me i farmed so much supplies idc how dog shit the loot is atleast im going to get upgrades
We going slowly to rs3 situation where bonds can buy you mid game lategame gear… jagex knows what they doing with inflating economy….
Cautious
Also adds Fever spiders and Zombie pirates
Zombie pirates are in the wildy, there is risk so there should be good rewards
@@GreeeyCan’t set up a bot farm in a day for Tormented Demons dumbass
@@Greeey There is 0 risk, they are a 35 hp mob that you can bring a 3 way to one hit...
@@kingofgeass dont be a moron, no real player is going to go out and 3 item zombie pirates unless you’re doing some strange rebuild series and are your first day in
Ok i think. Being a 450 level npc. It should at least keep up eith gargs. That drop 10k coins and rune items.
Gargs don’t drop acc upgrades tho
Gmauls?@@MysticEdge97
They’re not lvl 450 though dumbass
gargoyles probably arguably drop a little bit too much. but if they aren't going to nerf gargs then they should buff torms, I agree
30-40 hours for a drop that makes an untradeable item seems pretty bad when not getting any good drops until then
Yall clearly never done Cerebus
I ran the numbers for the bone claws, as that's the main thing mains are going to go for if they can for the in-between. However. As of today, if you grinded out on droprate tormented demons, it would take roughly 1250 kills. That's 600hp per kill. Meanwhile demonic gorillas are at 210hp. If you grinded out demonics instead of tormented, you'd make roughly (on drop rate with zenytes) 275m in the SAME time it would take to get 1250 tormented demons. which is roughly 3 dragon claws currently.
Not only that, the DDS does hit more accurately and harder than the claws. I get being cautious, but this is an extreme drought instead of what was promised. I wouldn't mind every drop being around 5k if to get a set of claws took roughly 10 hours on droprate. Which would be about 1/200, and the synapse to be on par with it. But these rates are absurdity
The real issue for me is that the demon bane take twice as long as a zenyte. Thats just messed up.
99% of people are complaining because they didn’t get the drop and I guarantee they’re under rate. However, what the fuck am I going to do with a single Guam leaf from a lvl 450 enemy that’s locked behind a GM quest that practically requires 80 herblore. I don’t mind that it’s a lottery boss but there is no reason there should 30 troll drops on the loot table. You don’t need to give me a ton of loot per kill but at least get rid of the shit that has 0 value even to the most down bad ironmen
I think it makes sense to be semi-caucious due to the monkey snake. But tbh 15k in infernal ashes a trip is BS.
Monkey snake?
I was shocked how easy the fight was. I am garabge and died like 50 times during DT2. I brought rag gear and beat these bosses without dying.
Same here meanwhile slayermusiq1 during his live stream was dying left and right lmao
No shit, it's a quest from 2008, where noone really understood how ticks worked. It's bringing it back for nostalgia reasons and to give MID GAME PLAYERS a spec weapon between DDS and Dclaws.
Not every quest or new content has to be best in slot nor does it have to be intended for high leveled players.
Mains just want to own one weapon for each style and be done.
Having to have a dozen niche items to hop around content is expensive and taxing, and since mains are basically funneled to raids no other content will appease them unless it is good gp per hour.
As a main I have many weapons for each style in bank. More than I'd like to admit... I don't like gold just sitting in my bank, gotta profit on the market sentiment. Bought a tormented bracelet at 12m and it's 20m now so that's why I hoard lots of items
I honestly figured they would have dropped small noted stacks of herbs like 3 ranarr or 3 toad, and more alchs like rune armor and weapons. Honestly figured basically a demonic gorilla table but better.
Ever since Zulrah, people just have an expectation that every new monster will pump endless resources into the economy.
Should have just removed claws from raids
Prayer pot at 1/12 please id be happy with a 2 dose. the uniques are sweet. Dont give a shit about the rest. Just would like the chance of recovering SOME of my prayer pots.
the problem with something like zombie pirates just BEING in the wilderness making it high risk - isn't really true. you can go to zombie pirates with 100k of gear and risk almost nothing relative to the 3-4m per hour you're making. you may have a point if zombie pirates was in multi and required 1m of GE value risk to enter but it doesn't.
at least with wilderness agility course, you get rewarded more the longer you stay, which I think is actually how it should be basically anywhere in pvp areas
I don't see a problem with the drop table, as long as the unique drops stay expensive and don't crash they are good money, just need to wait for the the drops. We got so many bosses that are consistent good GP, we don't need more.
The original TDS drop table was like this. Not every monster needs to be 2.5m gp/hr in alchables.
How is mm2 grandmaster when you can safespot every boss including the finale
Need more shit drop tables, will keep the uniques higher in price
As a max main, it’s not just an iron mindset. I think the table is fine the way it is.
Bro is borderline illiterate but love the content!
did they make it harder already? or can i be quick about it?
We wanted to make sure we didn’t make another vorkath.
Here is an unstrung msb
It takes forever to get to the demons. I think its worth noting Jagex wanted to make agility more useful. So how about a crevice that leads to the center of the room. Requiring 80 agility!
Not bad req and really good idea 🎉
hm... you teleport to tears of guthix, use a lantern on a light orb and then run for 30seconds....
@@AnimationsN1I know right? I don’t get people saying it takes forever 😂
Less of a walk than nightmare tho
I mean even without the drop table, the xp you get is insane
Big agree at 10:40 WGS is not a grandmaster quest, even if they make it a bit harder it's just not enough content (not saying they should've done more or that I didnt enjoy it, just mislabeled).
It's more like a long cutscene story quest than grandmaster. MM2 was way harder and released years ago.
I feel like WSG should have been a master quest. or even under the special quest maybe? I dont know.
@@bloodbarage And WGS was released in 2008, well before MM2.
It's brought back to help the story progress alongside for nostalgia. Not every single GM quest has to be the new baddest and hardest quest on the block. In fact, this quest is on par with RFD for difficulty, should we also change RFD to master?
Drop table should be the same as demonics
The next video also is not available to see in the end link
Not released yet I don't think, not sure I'll have a look
Im not there to make money but atleast break even, give me some supply drops. Not crap the whole time, could be 25% of vork and is good
You're missing the point man, the unique's are Niche and meant to bridge a gap, we shouldn't have to be there for 40 hours on drop rate to get them.
Swap aggro just happened to me this evening too.. hotfix didn’t do the thing
Is there an NPC you can pay to make bow or do I have to go get the fletching level?
70 fletching and boost to 74 with dragonfruit pie. Talk to curadel in shilo after quest.
@@deedaigle259 you need a magic longbow u. Which requires 85. It's 74 to attach the synapse to the magic longbow u. So fuck us irons I guess
Which mods were getting targeted?
The one time I do a quest on release .-.
Yeah make the BRUH a pet like pet rock for our house lol. If a rock can be in the pet house then that you can too
At least make a slayer cave or something
whats really the point of taking on multiple at once. like I dont see how that increases ur kph unless you’re bringing multiple aoe switches which I feel like is unlikely to genuinely be faster. So at the end of the day whether or not you’re tanking 3 you have to kill 1 at a time.
They dropped all gp printers in the wildy behind no reqs, now tbow is 1.7B, imagine farming it playing casualy, imposible!
Are they going to update the bug where 2 tormented demons can attack you at once in a non-multi area?
That's not a bug, that's how they are meant to be, see the combat tasks for more details
Why dont things like these just drop GP, lol... like nothing in the game just drops GP... easiest way to balance the drop table...
Change the current TD special with a Vorkath Nuke instead.
Did while guthix sleeps in gracefull with fang and blowpipe with some sharks and super resto pots...
Should be harder 🤔
Dude who asked about iron rng my iron has more boss kills and a higher total than my main. My iron has 1 pet, my main has 17
Gp seems to be so important to some people and how what there doing isnt paid enough but if you want gp just go learn nex and make 15m/h in small teams
But people want to have other options for gp, not just nex and raiding. Is that fair?
We need other forms of money Making family look at the price of bonds
Why not release content made specifically for catching bots. So when the bots migrate to that activity, we can clap them.
Hilarious cope. If they care about the health of the game, they wouldn't put moneymakers better than Vork in the wildy with zero requirements that get mass botted no matter what anyway.
Making things in the wilderness will still f the economy. I mean someone is getting that loot? Usually pkers farming bots
So they're gonna add colourblind accessibility options for the new quest but not piece of sh*t Cerb? Epic Jagex moment boys
I wish they would multiply wilderness drops. So if someone kills a player and I kill them it increases the loot by 25%-50%. Issue with wilderness is pk players avoid pking so much.
People would just exploit that with alt accounts and make billions good idea tho
Theres nothing wrong with bots, we all dont want to pay 13k for regular dragon bones for 99 prayer
We want to be cautious, also jagex, hey here's zombie pirates.
Update made me rich 😂 300kc 2 synapses 1 claw
Tormented demons are bugged. If you die in PvP safe, combat ring, lms, white portal, soul wars, castle wars. Then go die at tormented demons. The last person that you fought in safe PvP will get your loot key. Be ware.
That's always how it's been
Zombie pirate was better loot than this 😂
I think they should nerf tf out of the non quest monsters but nit too hard so new accounts can move up. And quest monsters should have better loot specially grandmasters. And for wilderness..... at the beggining they should be shit drops and going up higher in the wild they should increase the money. Like lvl 1 is loke 3k an Jr and lvl 50 plus wild is 7m an hr or so. Locked behind elite diary
now add rune drops xD
Jagex is cringe as f. If reddit cries enough anything will change now.
Drop table is ass, wish they'd just drop more consumables like ppots and food to extend trips instead of the fire runes and extra ashes. Let us grind it instead of just giving us garbage.
I dont think they drop table needs to be updated. I was also under the impression i was going there for uniques.
@@AGnAlienSkys but the uniques are soooo niche it’s hardly any incentive to even go here.
Probably a hot take, but why not improve the drop table slightly, but also incorporate a mechanic to the demons that work like the DY2 bosses, where if you get a perfect kill, you get either an expanded or improved drop table of rewards.
Brilliant idea 💡
think this is abit pointless with tormented demons, they arent high mechanics/skill bosses. The gap between a 'perfect kill' and an average one is not very large atall- your reward for a perfect kill should be higher kills per hour.
bad because there is a 50/50 on the correct prayer when it switches styles.
@MrMalding99 true. Easy to predict melee but range/mage can be mixed up easily unless there is a change to the model depending on style. But then that would be too easy.
Not a hot take, just a bad take for reasons stated above.
colour blindness = skill issue no doubt
Not an undead/demonic monkey so shouldn't drop shit obviously
Is he Kiwi?
aussie
I need those fire orbs so fuck it
ive gotten 59 fire orbs in 323 kills lol
They drop fire orbs?
@@satrontr1379noted ones
Beast
1st actual comment - great vid intro
You're 4th...
it is bad for the game, says the dude who probably has a tbow and a's shadow
Imo pvm should be eat or starve. Skilling is an Important part of the game even if most people just wanna red x boss. Give some small supplies id prefer if it was to keep them there like food n pots. Let the drops be decently rare but expensive. Things like nex you get huge ticket items to make the gp/hr is good. Let the skillers make money the way most people don't wanna do. Let the pvmers get rich thru rare big drops
How about one new update thats not locked behind ranged-scape kinda getting dumb
What are you talking about
@@wrenandrews3782I also went ???
@@wrenandrews3782just mad can't grind bowfa
Your slow 😂
No pet 👎
Speaking of bots did yall see the 50 man 14k kc+ bot farms at zulcano
insane how they even got SOTE done
@@ricardo8268not really... bots can do inferno and colosseum these days
aye
Tormented bracelet would be a cool drop for them.
i hope they add generous amount of ranarr seeds to the drop table... painful as an ironman
crystal imps did it for me
Toa and muspah poop out ranarr seeds
No i’ve got 900 of those already 😭
Ever heard of master farmers?
i dont see the problem with the drop table? why are people crying so badly?
They could seriously rebuff zulrah, lets be honest nex exists and it makes most other content pointless
I wish pures could use the scorching bow like we can the claws. Makes no sense take away the speaking to curadel req
Pures make no sense
Don't play a restricted account if you don't want restricted.
Bring back suffering like nightmare so you can enjoy when you get a drop “I’m rank 1 nightmare btw.” Suffering makes the rewards so much sweeter
Go outside I bet you smell like doritos
Omg, chat being a bunch of lobotomites at the beginning of the vid. Sheesh.
Rs3 news is too long
GAGEX SUPPORTS BOTS. simple, the only time bots are enforced when big content creators call it out and it creates to much media attention. It is disappointing a Grandmaster quest has such sh*t drops. but at the same time I don't have a lot of room for drops here in my inventory.
I would love to see a teleport added that can send you to the entrance of the skull after the quest.
Common drops are fine the big ticket drops can he more common and make bone claws a single drop. Everyone stfu about the common drops