I Avoid Plateauing with These 3 Climbing Tips

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  • I Avoid Plateauing with These 3 Climbing Tips
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    Training for advanced climbers
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  • @user-ts3ip7hh2t
    @user-ts3ip7hh2t 4 роки тому +503

    The most important thing is to have fun.

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +22

      임채연 most definitely!!

    • @Ptitviaud1337
      @Ptitviaud1337 4 роки тому +10

      That is probably the key for 90% of people to achieve anything. Workaholics are rare. The best way to keep training is to enjoy the process at least as much as the results.
      If you're training the right things, results will come eventually. So you're better off having fun while doing it, this way you're sure not to burn out.
      I like the philosophy behind the moonboard kinda replacing finger board. I did the same with campus board. Way funnier to try hard stuff on a campus board rather than doing hangs at home.

    • @danthelambboy
      @danthelambboy 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, to have fun there needs to be variety and to have variety there often needs to be progression. But there are loads of areas that can be improved so rotate a variety of tactics, variety of climbing route styles, variety of strength training and variety of roping situations.

    • @giacomocasanova2893
      @giacomocasanova2893 Рік тому +2

      no. the most important thing is to crush your friends

    • @barrettself4183
      @barrettself4183 9 місяців тому +2

      No. Grade chasing.

  • @NorthOCkook
    @NorthOCkook 4 роки тому +41

    “45 seconds rest.. not minutes..... seconds” hahaha I actually got that reference

  • @samastill1018
    @samastill1018 4 роки тому +377

    Hoseok: nowadays I train abit differently
    Me: whips out pen and note pad
    Hoseok: *does casual pull up to muscle up combo*
    Me: *scribbles furiously* hmmm yes interesting I can't do that

  • @noahk1031
    @noahk1031 4 роки тому +134

    Anyone else watching this who can't do half of the workouts he explains 😂

    • @arkhust6775
      @arkhust6775 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah a lot of people prpbably, thats why we watch it,to learn , practice those movements and become stronguer and better at climbing :P

    • @P3eT3e
      @P3eT3e 2 роки тому

      here....😂

  • @Schlongusdongus
    @Schlongusdongus 4 роки тому +58

    your style is so calm but committed! keep it up what youre doing. greetings from germany :)

  • @FancyWafflesFTW
    @FancyWafflesFTW 4 роки тому +6

    Love that you care about your viewers

  • @mangonaut798
    @mangonaut798 4 роки тому +38

    I don't often write youtube comments, but thanks for your videos. Your just a huge motivator for me to keep training, not just because your insanly ripped, but most importantly, because it seems so much fun for you and you are both very disciplined and also have such a good personality! Keep up the great videos man :)

  • @icegekki
    @icegekki 4 роки тому +39

    The way he talks--I'll believe everything he says.

    • @JayMartMedia
      @JayMartMedia 4 роки тому +4

      The way he climbs--I'll believe anything he says about climbing!

  • @TheYabbyman
    @TheYabbyman 4 роки тому +6

    Relatively simple yet informing.

  • @RiotOnlyMakesOpCHars
    @RiotOnlyMakesOpCHars 2 роки тому +5

    I have to say im new to climbing... bought some shoes some chalk and went climbing. Im currently resting and just absorbing all the information your channel provides. Thanks alot !

  • @muumarlin1731
    @muumarlin1731 Рік тому +2

    Man, this is awesome! Thank you very much for sharing your routine and your thoughts on developing the fitness necessary for progression to harder grades. It'll take a long time for me to get to this level of ease you have when doing these exercises.

  • @tpstrat14
    @tpstrat14 2 роки тому +1

    Love this guy and his general attitude but one thing he said I didn’t like is that you have to do things that you don’t like to improve. If you don’t like doing dynos, then don’t do them. Climbing is pretty taxing on the body as it is and those moves are where people get injured the most. Big dynos are not for everyone. I’d go as far to say that they’re not for ANYONE, at least not as a regular practice. Remember, your actual fingers have no muscles so ANYONE can tear a finger pulley no matter how strong you are and those moves shock load your fingers big time.
    Stay healthy on the wall. Work on YOUR flow. Climb in a way that YOU enjoy. That minor criticism aside, I just love this guy’s attitude. He seems so humble even though he trains so hard and is so skilled and strong! Very inspiring

  • @tommyjs1992
    @tommyjs1992 4 роки тому +1

    Keep it up man, your videos are extremely good

  • @marinbourgne7040
    @marinbourgne7040 4 роки тому +3

    keep up the great work !

  • @sticktotheextreme
    @sticktotheextreme 4 роки тому +1

    still loving your videos and thanks for the tips, im gonna add the pull ups to my routine so i can lever soon

  • @tristanbam3951
    @tristanbam3951 11 місяців тому

    Thank you, following your routine too! All the way out in South Africa! Thank you!

  • @Theninjaonthemountains
    @Theninjaonthemountains 4 роки тому +1

    great video!! I feel like i am a plateau now so will incorporate some of this into my training

  • @verbranntenetzhaut
    @verbranntenetzhaut 11 місяців тому

    How great is this video, insane!! Much love!

  • @sventhiele3905
    @sventhiele3905 4 роки тому +2

    very nice video. more of this pls. good stuff that you are presenting here and well explained

  • @minnesotamadmen9064
    @minnesotamadmen9064 4 роки тому

    Love your channel dude

  • @gayfruit4411
    @gayfruit4411 4 роки тому +26

    Hoseok's becoming my fav climbing youtuber, bye magnus :')

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +6

      big big ❤️

    • @Iridiot
      @Iridiot 4 роки тому +11

      why not watch both :o

    • @Krushard
      @Krushard 2 роки тому

      @@Iridiot Because one is climbing and the other one desperately wants 1M subscribers.

  • @stevestarrr
    @stevestarrr 4 роки тому +5

    Really great this video. My main and only focus is to have fun and solve problems.
    Still having a lot of fun following your routine from last time😁 One arm pull ups are now at.. 3 😂😂 But really hard to do any climbing after the complete workout. Have you done the Lattice test? That would be a cool video to watch👍🏾

  • @areumhehe
    @areumhehe 4 роки тому +5

    Hahaha my video 🙈 Also, it’s our own responsibility to decide if your training method will help our climbing goals! I realized I lacked the strength to perform a lot of movements for v7/v8 and that’s why I found what you shared so helpful. Thanks to both of you for sharing this content :D

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому

      Gloria Chocolates see you again!:)

  • @stevenwilliamson3925
    @stevenwilliamson3925 4 роки тому +4

    Good stuff man, you're really fit. Would be cool to hear you talk about your diet as well

  • @kimediamond
    @kimediamond 4 роки тому +1

    Getting really psyched to train hard!

  • @Ataraxia_Atom
    @Ataraxia_Atom 4 роки тому +8

    My buddy and I have been doing 100 pullups every Saturday for the last 3 weeks thank you!

  • @maxzjj
    @maxzjj 4 роки тому +12

    What's up Hoseok; Thanks to your training routine (or the general idea of it), I've progressed from V0+ to V3 in 6 weeks !! Keep it up :)

  • @aladeenmadafaka6286
    @aladeenmadafaka6286 4 роки тому +1

    good infos man!

  • @MC-bj3ks
    @MC-bj3ks 4 роки тому +1

    Cool vid thank you for sharing your tips. That first front lever variation recommended is called an "ice cream maker" for anyone wondering.

  • @LiveLoveLevelUp
    @LiveLoveLevelUp Рік тому

    Great video, thanks for the help

  • @jfy7185
    @jfy7185 4 роки тому +2

    Inspiring,love it👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jacobd1529
    @jacobd1529 Рік тому

    Fantastic video.

  • @SeraphinoII
    @SeraphinoII 4 роки тому +4

    4:38 i honestly laughed! I don't know why i was expecting something more noob friendly.

  • @txelcat
    @txelcat 4 роки тому +6

    Would be great to see your take on nutrition! (both during training and during performance)
    And perhaps also your antagonist muscles workout?
    Thanks again for your videos!

    • @Ptitviaud1337
      @Ptitviaud1337 4 роки тому +2

      Eat organic stuff. Eat a lot while training, high density and quality meals. Dont bother with a small weight intake (like 1 or 2 kilos), that's pretty normal when you train. When you start climbing outdoors, you can cut down a bit on the food, but that's not such a game changer (unless you're climbing at elite level).
      Vegan, keto, omni, vegetarian, whatever, it's up to you, as long as it's organic and not viciously transformed :)

  • @BCEpedals
    @BCEpedals 3 роки тому +1

    It is good to do isolated exercises AND functional movement/multi-muscle group exercises in training. Both is always better than just one or the other. We do use multi-muscle groups for the majority of our daily movements and climbing movements. But still, not all muscles have to work as hard as others for these multi-muscle group movements. In other words you might end up compensating or not performing the multi-muscle group movements properly due to tightness or weakness of just one muscle because other muscles may be over dominant during these movements, this can also cause injuries. Please do isolated muscle exercises especially if you are recovering from injury or having tendonitis/chronic pain, acute muscle tears from climbing and then incorporate the full body movements as you recover. My experience is in my physical therapy career so please trust me! Btw, I love this channel and it has been very informative for my climbing!

  • @oplosi
    @oplosi 4 роки тому +1

    Great video man! But one important question: what is your take on pints?

  • @runningtowin4him
    @runningtowin4him 2 роки тому +8

    Just starting to get into climbing. I’m 40 lbs overweight to be a great climber. This is my day 1 of getting in shape. You’re an inspiration. I’m going to do a check in each Monday to let you know my progress! Long way to go but getting started is the first step.

    • @EpicKillstreak
      @EpicKillstreak Рік тому +1

      Hey, how is it after a year, still going? :)

  • @jonkrause6714
    @jonkrause6714 4 роки тому +3

    First video related to “training” that has flexibility and reality built in. Fingers, core weaknesses. Not going for a grade since they’re all subjective anyway, but starting to dedicate at least a little time per session this week-it’s a start😝. This video gives me hope and going to keep it fun. 🙏🤘

  • @martinezreynajoseantonio8696
    @martinezreynajoseantonio8696 4 роки тому +1

    Muchas gracias

  • @duuplo
    @duuplo 2 роки тому

    very useful

  • @DonatRC
    @DonatRC 3 роки тому

    Do you ever add any antagonist/opposition into your training routine? How do you avoid imbalance issues and stave off injuries?

  • @jordansky
    @jordansky 4 роки тому

    Like your content ! Make a video about training without a gym with all the gyms closed now if you can

  • @matteoartizzu3759
    @matteoartizzu3759 4 роки тому +3

    I always like to come back to these videos of yours, and I noticed now that you don't mention dips like most climbers do. Is it just a preference of yours? (personally I like dips a lot ahaha)

    • @danielbeall7725
      @danielbeall7725 3 роки тому

      For a lot of climbers, dips and bench press are fairly interchangeable. Depends on preference and equipment available. Dips are a lot easier to progress without a gym or much weigh available. Sorry if that wasn't what you meant haha. But if you like doing dips, definitely no need to drop them from the routine.

  • @requiemz22
    @requiemz22 Місяць тому

    Another important thing to improve on should be flexibility. Probably 90+% of climbers could get really solid improvement in climbing from flexibility. Starting and finding a good routine for you is the hardest part. I think yoga is a good place to start because you'll go through a ton of different strectes and find the ones with the most value for you

  • @abrarrauf6761
    @abrarrauf6761 4 роки тому +13

    Hey, I found your training routine really good! I was plateauing at V4 for a couple of months now, and within 3 weeks I went from 50 ish to 90 ish pull ups, and started breaking into a few V5s (still takes me a few days to complete a full V5), but I'm hoping the routine will spearhead me into V6s in 2-3 months' time! Thank you!

    • @camilleo2817
      @camilleo2817 4 роки тому +2

      Abrar Rauf 90 pull ups is impossible while maintaining good form. For maximal muscle recruiting, you should always keep your body somewhat still, in a straight line

    • @abrarrauf6761
      @abrarrauf6761 4 роки тому +1

      C Ollivier I think my form doesn’t change although I really struggle with the 1 arm pull ups. What was interesting to me was how quickly I got from 50-90...

    • @neven-
      @neven- 4 роки тому +2

      @@abrarrauf6761 lmao

    • @fmazerolol
      @fmazerolol 4 роки тому

      @@abrarrauf6761 how many sets?

    • @colossal4962
      @colossal4962 4 роки тому +4

      Abrar Rauf i doubt your form is very good if you can do 90 pull ups and your stuck on v4

  • @jeremiahchin593
    @jeremiahchin593 4 роки тому +4

    Liking the video mann

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +2

      Jeremiah chin thx for watching!!

  • @Paul-es5tz
    @Paul-es5tz 4 роки тому +9

    I agree with you on the front lever progressions. Tucked, one leg etc. are shit and don't make your core work that much. A good complementary exercise for front lever or core in general is the dragon flag. Good video :)

    • @adriangodoy4610
      @adriangodoy4610 4 роки тому +1

      I find myself getting tuck front lever for long time but not being able to progress to next step. This exercices seem more focus on getting it done

    • @MrVanhoden
      @MrVanhoden 3 роки тому

      @@adriangodoy4610 it's that front levers are a core exercise but doing them also requires a good amount of pure pulling strength. The amount of pulling strength needed to get into the tucked position doesnt compare to the real one.

    • @user-sc9ud8wh3t
      @user-sc9ud8wh3t Рік тому +1

      @@MrVanhoden i mean, i dont know why climbers call front lever a core exersize. It is lats exersize. It requires a lot of lat strength to hold you center of mass under the par. Core requirements for front lever are a joke compared to that - a lot of essays on that in calisthenics community

    • @jacobpickos733
      @jacobpickos733 Рік тому

      @@user-sc9ud8wh3t Google "What is core exercise" ---> Any exercise that involves the use of your stomach muscles and back muscles in a coordinated way.

    • @matusmoro955
      @matusmoro955 10 місяців тому

      @@user-sc9ud8wh3t Yeah perfectly agreed. Saying front lever is a core exercise is like saying squats are a core exercise. Yes they both engage the core in a way, but you don't do squats to get a stronger core, but to build legs.

  • @jonowoodgo
    @jonowoodgo 2 роки тому

    Awesome vid as always...i definitely would say make training fun unless your on a professional athlete level.
    We train very similar as in i always mix it up for mental stimulation and so my body and muscles don't get use to routines and movements.
    My advice to people if you wanna be a better climber...climb more hahaha it's that easy.
    A marathon runner still walks on days off which is the same movement as running.
    If at age 43 i can start climbing and do a hard V6 in 7 months anyone can do it in my eyes.
    Just know your goals and work on your weaknesses.

  • @dennishierzer2219
    @dennishierzer2219 Рік тому

    I have had a fairly rocky climbing progression, I used to climb when I was a bit younger and made it to about v5 after 2 years or so. Then Covid hit, after about another 2 years of no climbing whatsoever i have been climbing for about one year consistently with a big break over the summer. I’m currently climbing most v5s and some v6s while flashing most v4s. I have done 1v7 up until now. I only boulder and I am sometimes worried that i cannot push my goals up enough since the more I do the harder it gets for me to complete them and although I am catching up, since the first v6 I have done until now, my success rate has been fairly the same. Do any better climbers have advice on what I could do to help continue progress ?

  • @JayMartMedia
    @JayMartMedia 4 роки тому +3

    This young man: You just hold it (front lever) for as long as you can, say.... 10 seconds.
    Me: Wait... I have to hold it?
    Yeah, core is (one of) my weaknesses!
    All kidding aside, great video. You come across very honest and real on camera. You are an amazing climber, but still you manage to stay humble.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @JayMartMedia
      @JayMartMedia 4 роки тому +1

      Just reached the end of the video. Few more comments/bits of encouragement.
      Your ability to joke about the 45 seconds/minutes thing it's exactly what I mean when I say that you are humble/honest/real on camera. You are able to joke about yourself, it is nice to see.
      Thank you for the tips on working up to front lever. They are really helpful. I will be using those (along with parts of your beginner pull-up routine).
      Audio quality is surprisingly really good in your videos! Especially considering it appears to be an on camera mic in a relatively crowded gym.

  • @julianjohnjelasal5950
    @julianjohnjelasal5950 3 роки тому +1

    Can I ask what age you started to climb? Im 21 and have wanted to start climbing for a while but couldnt because of a few injuries but Im finally able to work out like normal and honestly cant wait to get in good enough shape to start climbing. Great video by the way!

    • @lutze5086
      @lutze5086 Рік тому

      You can climb in any shape I hope you started after this comment

    • @lubo3934
      @lubo3934 Рік тому

      Climbing is a rare sport where people of literally every age can climb and start climbing as long as you listen to your body and rest and progress at the pace you need to go you can start anytime. I'm 19 and there are guys who are 40+ way better than me.

  • @svegueable
    @svegueable 4 роки тому +6

    The exercises with the rings are butterflys and supermans i think :)

  • @Bergbajs
    @Bergbajs 4 роки тому +1

    What a lovely guy.

  • @Strandedinthetank
    @Strandedinthetank 2 роки тому

    Life is your playground

  • @itsukishuun
    @itsukishuun 4 роки тому +4

    After 7 months of trying, i can only do 2sec of full front lever from unable to even do the tuck front lever. And he just did 10sec of full front lever like it's nothing 😳.

    • @OscarTurmine
      @OscarTurmine 4 роки тому +1

      have you tried using resistance bands to hold the position??

    • @itsukishuun
      @itsukishuun 4 роки тому +1

      @@OscarTurmine even with resistance bands, i can only hold it for around 4-5sec. Progression seems slow, still looks cool to others though 😂.

    • @OscarTurmine
      @OscarTurmine 4 роки тому

      itsukishuun just takes time! Could also try hollow body holds on days where you don't have access to a bar. Aim for 1 minute at least twice with 1 minutes rest

    • @Ptitviaud1337
      @Ptitviaud1337 4 роки тому +1

      Try to take a rest on your training on core (if you're actually constantly training front levers) for 10 to 15 days. Try again to do a front lever and you should see a pretty good increase in seconds.
      The most breaking point of the front lever is actually to be able to do it. Being able to maintain it for 5 seconds or 10 or 20 isn't such a difference, especially if you take into account the type of climbing you do outdoors.

    • @chrisboccia
      @chrisboccia 4 роки тому

      If your bodyweight isn't a problem, then the key to improving is to do sets to exhaustion *every single day.* I was stuck, too, and then I upped it to doing the levers every single day and suddenly everything clicked into place and I could do levers for extended periods of time.

  • @user-ty7sh4jq3u
    @user-ty7sh4jq3u 4 роки тому +1

    how many sets of max front lever hangs (each hang is 1 set) do you reccomend?

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +1

      יולי קוסוי as many as you can manage to do!!

    • @user-ty7sh4jq3u
      @user-ty7sh4jq3u 4 роки тому

      Alright! I wanna do thr front levering insted of the 4 core excerices you showed in the previous video
      Should i add another excercise?

  • @beefbelly
    @beefbelly 2 роки тому

    What is your diet like?

  • @matusmoro955
    @matusmoro955 10 місяців тому +1

    For anyone watching. Front lever is definitely not a core exercise.

  • @dubzxi2979
    @dubzxi2979 4 роки тому +2

    I would say I have gotten really far with climbing without even training off the wall. I have climbed for 3 years now and i started at v3 my first time and now I climb v9-v10 with v12 being my hardest grade sent. But now I am at the point of plateauing where I feel as though i do need to train off the wall.

    • @yahtzeeeuook3193
      @yahtzeeeuook3193 4 роки тому +2

      V12 in three years is amazing. Like Dave Graham/Sharma levels of progression 😶. Keep at it brother - V15 will come to you one day!

    • @dubzxi2979
      @dubzxi2979 4 роки тому

      @@yahtzeeeuook3193 yessir i plan on it. I am
      going to start training and competing very soon.

  • @jarrettmaltry6305
    @jarrettmaltry6305 4 роки тому

    I started out after working out for years so I could destroy pull-ups and power moves, finger strength is the single most important factor to train other than just climbing a ton

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому

      jarrett maltry well obviously that’s why I climb a ton on moonboard

  • @kenleighumali
    @kenleighumali 4 роки тому +1

    Which video contains your work out routine?

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +1

      Kenleigh Umali ua-cam.com/video/IHHEKcfVIsg/v-deo.html

    • @kenleighumali
      @kenleighumali 4 роки тому

      @@hoseoklee93 thank you!

  • @MiuraZx10r
    @MiuraZx10r 4 роки тому +7

    Hey Mate, just curios: Whats your Bodysize?

    • @dliangsta
      @dliangsta 4 роки тому +2

      medium

    • @MiuraZx10r
      @MiuraZx10r 4 роки тому

      @@dliangsta i meant how tall. In cm, meter or freedom-unit :).

    • @friendlyoldbum9182
      @friendlyoldbum9182 4 роки тому +1

      @@MiuraZx10r 195cm for me

  • @LeeSin69
    @LeeSin69 4 роки тому +1

    Where can I find his training?

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/IHHEKcfVIsg/v-deo.html

  • @Chris-de2qc
    @Chris-de2qc 4 роки тому

    How tall are you?

  • @jackofblades6736
    @jackofblades6736 4 роки тому

    Holds rings. I can do a face plant. Patent move

  • @s19wong
    @s19wong 3 роки тому

    Yeah so just uh front lever - got it haha

  • @user-ez4iv2kp4f
    @user-ez4iv2kp4f 4 роки тому

    How big are you, Hoseok?
    I'm 1,75m and I always wonder, how big are ppl in the climbing videos.

  • @Krushard
    @Krushard 2 роки тому

    My weak fingers are just keep opening up. What's the point if I can do 10 muscle ups in a row after the session and still can't grab shit with noodle fingers. Arghhh...

  • @greendayy6335
    @greendayy6335 4 місяці тому

    5:30, 6:30, 7:05

  • @pungsungsu1272
    @pungsungsu1272 4 роки тому +4

    한쿡자막도 달아주세요 영알못이거덩여

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  4 роки тому +1

      Pung Sungsu 다음에 여유가 더 생기면 자막도 해볼게요ㅎㅎ

    • @pungsungsu1272
      @pungsungsu1272 4 роки тому

      네 감사합니다 ㅎㅎ

  • @axeus2008
    @axeus2008 2 роки тому

    "One of my favourite core excercises is the uh, front lever" aight but like, what if i cant do a front lever like 99% of the world

    • @axeus2008
      @axeus2008 2 роки тому

      I mean he went over that but its still funny, i'm actually the only person i know who can do multiple pullups with relative ease

    • @LucayDoggy
      @LucayDoggy 9 місяців тому

      @@axeus2008 amazon sand paper

  • @Dynafet
    @Dynafet 3 роки тому

    I ll tell you a secret,... You dont have to chalk multiple times befor touching anything (definitely not bar).

  • @Buffalo93
    @Buffalo93 Рік тому

    This is definitely enjoyable and motivating content, but frankly those tips are useless. First, it takes probably a month of climbing to realize that fingers and core is quite important, that's not a surprise for anybody. Then, most people probably aren't missing core strength as much as their lacking body tension and coordination. Front lever and similar exercise are great, but keeping body tense while in an awkward position, hanging on tips of the fingers is a whole different level.
    As I said, still liked the video, but these are in no way tips that will help anyone avoid plateauing.

    • @hoseoklee93
      @hoseoklee93  Рік тому

      I speak from my own experience on my channel as the tile of this video suggests. It's up to you who should apply it to your own situation and level. To some people, it's super helpful as it was to me. Maybe not so much and useless to some. Take it with the grain of salt.

  • @lucadellasciucca967
    @lucadellasciucca967 Рік тому

    Putting core over back doesn t make sense imo
    Edit: I knew it! Front lever is for the back not the core!
    Re-edit: Ignore the all thing about front lever! Unless you re already advanced things like ice makers are way too hard. The front lever progressions he showed and dismissed are key to achieve the full front lever. And again, it s all back strength, core has nothing to do with it.