While the ROI looks nice on paper, the reality is when he begins selling this stuff, shipping, fee's, and taxes are going to eat a large portion of that ROI as it stands now. In 10 years that may be different, but I feel it's worth mentioning for anyone just getting into this stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment! I wrote and read my following reply and it reads pretty attacking. That's not my intention, I'm just trying to tell things from my point of view as honestly as possible. Appreciate you being here and commenting, truly! The ROI is calculated based on the lowest price on Cardmarket at the moment of filming. Shipping is not included in those prices, so the only extra fee that's not included is the 4,5-5% fee Cardmarket takes. I should have included that in the potential sales price. Taxes are a part of life and any investment so I don't really know how that is relevant. The illiquidity of the product is obviously the main negative thing but if you take that into account from the start and understand that you can't sell everything in a day/month it's fine. The ROI is outrageous compared to any "real" world investment and most definitely is not sustainable in the long run. That being said the returns for Pokemon sealed product post 2020 boom have been extremely high (all extra fees included) and if I only read your message I would think they were only meh. I understand that you're trying to maybe look out for viewers who get exited seeing these returns but the actual risk that is involved is the eventual market correction (crash/slowly declining returns) and not the current returns (which are, for the time being, great).
100%. I'd only consider it ROI once it has been sold and all deductions have been taken into consideration. Current market value is not ROI. I totally understand the psychology here. I have traditional investments and love watching unrealized gains increase. It is so tempting to view it as wealth but it isn't until it's cash in your pocket. I'm not trying to nitpick but this is a psychological trap many of us investors fall into.
Nice to see a finnish pokemon invester on youtube. Coming from a "hurri" from the same country x) I also invest a little bit.. i just don't record it. Keep up the good work!
There's a lot of information out there on youtube and sites that track the prices of products. Try to get as much information as possible from many sources and then do what you feel is best. That's what I did, consumed as much information as possible and then made my own strategy based on that info and my own thoughts. I have a couple of videos where I go through my own thought process in my investing playlist.
Here is the thing you will run into. If you sell all of that with the 25% ROI on a selling platform such as eBay you will only net about 5% to 7%. eBay has a selling fee of over 13.25% plus that fee applies to shipping charges and the taxes. I have noticed the total fee is about 21% in actuality.
Cardmarket has 5% and 4,5% for professional sellers. The higher fees suck for sellers not in the EU though. Also we have a Finnish marketplace that has no fees for non-professional sellers. Probably can't sell much volume there though.
Great content and ROI. Have you considered japanese sets? esp now that you can pretty much get them at MSRP, and long term return is 3x-10x greater in japanese side.
I'm not a huge fan of adding an extra middleman into my investments. I've bought some Japanese cards but I don't really enjoy the concept of fully predetermined pull rates. So because of that I don't really feel the need to invest in them. There's plenty of opportunities in English cards so I choose the products I can get more directly and enjoy more in general.
I'm not too familiar with the Japanese market but wasn't there pretty much a boom in 2022/2023 that kind of dwindled down? I would not expect future sets that are readily available across the globe have the same kind of growth as those that weren't. I could obviously be wrong. But hope everything goes well for you!
@@SayerTCG Yes there definitely is. It's just a market correction. but once Japan's recession corrects and Yen-Dollar corrects within a year or more, Potential gains is so insane. I just have so much faith in the original creator of Pokemon TCG. thanks. Hope it goes well too.
Nice video and congrats on the gains! I'm wondering how you got some of the products that low. I recall around September~November getting Silver Tempest 125 local cuz shipping from CardMarket wasn't worth it and would go over, Lost origin 130~135 not shipped. Were these local deals? Mew UPC 105? daaamn :O Maybe i didn't notice a dip in the market after i bought but doesn't hurt to ask ^^
I was actively looking for the best deals. I also bought quite a lot of product per order to get the shipping costs per product as low as possible. Lost origin were cases from kelz0r and almost everything else from games island. They have free shipping for orders over 500€ at their site and also the best prices most of the time.
Just came across this video hopefully some of those boxes don’t turn out like Jake Paul boxes I’m always skeptical with Pokemon cases even with newer stuff
Obviously there's risks with these sort of investments. But buying at under msrp and relatively close to wholesale prices is vastly different from buying products that have already appreciated many hundred times the original price. With pokemon being such a huge worldwide phenomenon and the cards having such a huge collector base, I'm pretty confident that the prices of these products is more likely to go up than down. I also see the probability of these products crashing below wholesale price very low. So I'm not too worried.
Nah man, I sell at market price. I buy a few booster boxes when they're readily available. Then when the market price is higher years later, I sell them. Are you telling me you want less competition and higher prices for older products?
While the ROI looks nice on paper, the reality is when he begins selling this stuff, shipping, fee's, and taxes are going to eat a large portion of that ROI as it stands now. In 10 years that may be different, but I feel it's worth mentioning for anyone just getting into this stuff.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment! I wrote and read my following reply and it reads pretty attacking. That's not my intention, I'm just trying to tell things from my point of view as honestly as possible. Appreciate you being here and commenting, truly!
The ROI is calculated based on the lowest price on Cardmarket at the moment of filming. Shipping is not included in those prices, so the only extra fee that's not included is the 4,5-5% fee Cardmarket takes. I should have included that in the potential sales price. Taxes are a part of life and any investment so I don't really know how that is relevant. The illiquidity of the product is obviously the main negative thing but if you take that into account from the start and understand that you can't sell everything in a day/month it's fine. The ROI is outrageous compared to any "real" world investment and most definitely is not sustainable in the long run. That being said the returns for Pokemon sealed product post 2020 boom have been extremely high (all extra fees included) and if I only read your message I would think they were only meh. I understand that you're trying to maybe look out for viewers who get exited seeing these returns but the actual risk that is involved is the eventual market correction (crash/slowly declining returns) and not the current returns (which are, for the time being, great).
100%. I'd only consider it ROI once it has been sold and all deductions have been taken into consideration. Current market value is not ROI. I totally understand the psychology here. I have traditional investments and love watching unrealized gains increase. It is so tempting to view it as wealth but it isn't until it's cash in your pocket. I'm not trying to nitpick but this is a psychological trap many of us investors fall into.
Nice to see a finnish pokemon invester on youtube. Coming from a "hurri" from the same country x) I also invest a little bit.. i just don't record it. Keep up the good work!
@@ArCon8 team hurri 🫶🏼
Keep it coming! I am also doing the same as you and I havr started collecting seal products. I am also you 100th subscriber 😊😂
Let's gooo! Glgl to both of us.
Thx for the Games Island Tip! I'm from the Netherlands and it's hard to find sealed product for a good price!
What advice do you have for me? I am just starting off.
There's a lot of information out there on youtube and sites that track the prices of products. Try to get as much information as possible from many sources and then do what you feel is best. That's what I did, consumed as much information as possible and then made my own strategy based on that info and my own thoughts. I have a couple of videos where I go through my own thought process in my investing playlist.
@@SayerTCG Thank you!
Here is the thing you will run into. If you sell all of that with the 25% ROI on a selling platform such as eBay you will only net about 5% to 7%. eBay has a selling fee of over 13.25% plus that fee applies to shipping charges and the taxes. I have noticed the total fee is about 21% in actuality.
Cardmarket has 5% and 4,5% for professional sellers. The higher fees suck for sellers not in the EU though. Also we have a Finnish marketplace that has no fees for non-professional sellers. Probably can't sell much volume there though.
@@SayerTCG Those are good fees. you are lucky. Congrats on the pick ups. Nice stuff.
Great content and ROI. Have you considered japanese sets? esp now that you can pretty much get them at MSRP, and long term return is 3x-10x greater in japanese side.
I'm not a huge fan of adding an extra middleman into my investments. I've bought some Japanese cards but I don't really enjoy the concept of fully predetermined pull rates. So because of that I don't really feel the need to invest in them. There's plenty of opportunities in English cards so I choose the products I can get more directly and enjoy more in general.
@@SayerTCG fair statement. but if talking fully about ROI, Japanese really makes every nuance worth it.
I'm not too familiar with the Japanese market but wasn't there pretty much a boom in 2022/2023 that kind of dwindled down? I would not expect future sets that are readily available across the globe have the same kind of growth as those that weren't. I could obviously be wrong. But hope everything goes well for you!
@@SayerTCG Yes there definitely is. It's just a market correction. but once Japan's recession corrects and Yen-Dollar corrects within a year or more, Potential gains is so insane. I just have so much faith in the original creator of Pokemon TCG. thanks. Hope it goes well too.
Love the sealed collections 👍 a little more interested in how you like living in Finland though lol
Love living here! The winter is a bit long though... 😃
Nice video and congrats on the gains! I'm wondering how you got some of the products that low. I recall around September~November getting Silver Tempest 125 local cuz shipping from CardMarket wasn't worth it and would go over, Lost origin 130~135 not shipped. Were these local deals? Mew UPC 105? daaamn :O
Maybe i didn't notice a dip in the market after i bought but doesn't hurt to ask ^^
I was actively looking for the best deals. I also bought quite a lot of product per order to get the shipping costs per product as low as possible. Lost origin were cases from kelz0r and almost everything else from games island. They have free shipping for orders over 500€ at their site and also the best prices most of the time.
@@SayerTCG awesome thanks!
And this is why I have been sitting on some booster boxes for 10 years. 😂
Great vid! Learned a lot
I loled at the stand up bit😅
Just came across this video hopefully some of those boxes don’t turn out like Jake Paul boxes I’m always skeptical with Pokemon cases even with newer stuff
Obviously there's risks with these sort of investments. But buying at under msrp and relatively close to wholesale prices is vastly different from buying products that have already appreciated many hundred times the original price. With pokemon being such a huge worldwide phenomenon and the cards having such a huge collector base, I'm pretty confident that the prices of these products is more likely to go up than down. I also see the probability of these products crashing below wholesale price very low. So I'm not too worried.
Don’t give up like most people, it’s so sad to see lol
If you wait years you do well. Just dont have paper hands
Your voice is sometimes weird when u are zooming in on the investment itself
Yeah, its just a problem with my mic. I'll probably rerecord and edit those kind of bits in future videos and also get a decent mic at some point.
@@SayerTCG good video!
good job mate ~~~
Is that at the end financial advice????
Nice to see a fellow European!
Ofcourse, sell everything you have and put it all on cardboard! 😅 Nice to have you here!
Hahaha “some of his money”
games Island ? this is a german seller :D
Yep, it is.
Great roi + sexy music 😂
💀🤣
So you hoard then sell overpriced
Nah man, I sell at market price. I buy a few booster boxes when they're readily available. Then when the market price is higher years later, I sell them. Are you telling me you want less competition and higher prices for older products?
I love (hate) our 24% alv 🥲