Barrel break in. How to decide if you need to do it.
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Deciding if you need to break in a barrel is not as easy as many think. In this video, I discuss the thought process I go through in deciding if I need to break in a barrel or not.
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This is obviously a joke, but to clarify, I DO NOT break in barrels and I find that to be a waste of time.
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I've watched alot of UA-cam videos and I am so happy I found your channel. Ive been binge watching all your videos. Thank you for all the information and humor. Personally I don't feel experienced enough to have an opinion but I trust you so thanks for saving me the time. Keep up the great work.
So who is meat grinder and how long have you known her?
You may wanna tell her to go to the clinic judging by the end of your video 😂
I love it. Lol I don't break in custom barrels! My first 15+- rounds are the start of my ladder test. I just got my "I neck size" shirt today. Thanks Erik👍👍
The title should read, "How to break in your meat grinder."
I know Toad, why would you put "YOUR DUCK" in a meat grinder? 🤯🤷♂️🙉👍
@@ramsaycountry1177 Ha Ha! Criterions shoot great with no break in:)
@@ToadleyBrowne that's a fact Toad!
Ramsay Country to make pepperoni sticks!
@@craignmz5264 lol, 👍👍
It's the nut behind the gun, that frequently determines group size. At my nearby public range, the fellow next bench over wanted to know how much my 7mm magnum kicked. He shot my gun and printed cloverleafs, besting my best effort in half. Wow, gotta work on my technique!
As they say "the loose nut behind the rifle butt"...
I load 140 grain bullets at less than max charges.....so not bad at all. Nosler accubonds really anchor deer!
I built a super heavy 308. Like 16lbs. we took it out to do a function and safety check with some crap milsurp ammo. My girlfriend at the time asked to shoot it. She zinged 5 rounds though a single hole at 100yrds. I said "Give me my gun back, you have your own"
IT'S THE "JERK" BEHIND THE TRIGGER
@@EitriBrokkr Or maybe she hit the target once and missed four times.
Not long ago I had a rifle built and I wondered about barrel break in. I used a Shilen barrel so I contacted them. They told me not to worry about barrel break in because the only part of the barrel that may need any break in is the chamber itself wherein the machine marks are at 90 degrees from the bullet travel. I also contacted Kreiger barrels and received the same advice.
I've talked to a few barrel manufacturers and best answer is : " we recieve so many calls on should I break a barrel in that we made a procedure on posted it on our website" lol there you go
I told the “expertises” in the area I live, when I bought my first rifle: breaking in a barrel with 50 bullets sounds to me like sharpening a knife cutting 50 slices of cheese. It sounded stupid, I didn’t do it, my rifle shoots flawlessly.
I find it extremly brave to wear that shirt, especially when going on the range.
2500 rounds thru my 65CM Surgeon Scalpel. I think it’s almost broken in. Great video EC. 😂😂😂😂😂
Good barrels shoot - right from the start. Quarter Minute Magnums.
Wish I had found this video years ago. It would have saved me a lot of time researching barrel break in methods I am too lazy to take the time and effort to do on a new barrel.
Erik, came back and watched this one because something occurred to me today (yes, it's a slow day here in Tennessee!). Always appreciate your videos. Anyway, I agree with you about the barrel break-in hocus pocus, but it occurs to me that, because you clean your barrels down to bare metal after every shooting session, no matter how many shots you fire, you are probably in effect treating your barrel almost exactly the same way as the barrel break-in folks...just over a bit longer period of time. Now again, I don't buy this barrel break-in voodoo any more than you do, but I'm just thinking out loud here. If one goes through one of these prescribed barrel break-in procedures to the letter, and then seldom cleans their barrel thereafter, I see no way they are any better off in the long run than someone who runs your routine.
Man, you just got a new subscriber! I've never broken in a barrel. But when I saw you might be doing it I thought I'd consider it. No more barrel neglect guilt here.
Barrel neglect guilt is actually a real thing.
I don't grind my duck meat, I like to slowly saute with orange sauce and a nice chianti. I have tried it both ways... no, not that... but in California, my only option is short range.
By the time my duck is cooked, it's time to get a new duck.
Funny man got jokes! 😂 😂 😂
Keep it up mate, it’s good stuff.
Very amusing! Thanks for the insight.
I recently bought a Lithgow LA102 in 6.5 Creedmoor. Tried a few different factory ammo with just running a bore snake through it between each different type. The best group I got at 100 yards was 0.316 inch. That will do me! Greetings from Australia.
OMG, that was so funny!!!! "Well at least I didn't have to do anything stupid like break in a barrel". What would be a lot better than this is a video discussing why you choose the barrels that you do, and why you leave the others alone. :) Great vid.
You should always fire lap and use very abrasive wire brushes for consistent results. Cleaning from the muzzle is also the only way to go.
Oh, this is for your d**k. Nobody in their right mind would do that to a barrel! 🤣
Don’t listen to this guy. You will fuck your barrel up. It’s from chamber to muzzle. Not other way around.
@Joe Gar He probably tried it on his weener! LOL
@Joe Gar I wish. I can't even remember 12. That had to have been in the '60's.
@Joe Gar That's okay Joe. I don't let stuff get to me much anymore. Since I retired, I do what I want and say what I want. A few of my buddies that are always mad have one thing in common. They are democrats! 🤣 They got no sense of humor.
Refreshing to see someone finally calling out the internet BS for what it truly is.
Long before I discovered your channel, I saw a video of Gale McMillan, founder of McMillan stocks, and he said the same thing! According to Gale, breaking-in a high quality custom barrel is a waste of time and money. He said that most barrel manufactures recommend it because that means they are about 50 rounds closer to selling the customer a new barrel!
I've been shooting a rifle for 50 years now! And found the right way to get them broken in, is too shoot the rifle get the barrel dirty, take it home give it a good cleaning and repeat the process!
Instructions unclear.
Need to go to ER.
LOL clickbait thumbnail got me. Thanks, EC.
I needed that. I can't stop laughing.
😂 one of the most interesting ways to braking in a barrel.
Barrel break in is so simple everyone wants to make it into some big UA-cam craze. Step 1: Clean the firearm. Always do this before you fire it the first time just to make sure that it is lubed properly. Step 2: Take the firearm to the range. Step 3: Shoot and have fun. No fancy cleaning between rounds, just shoot for as long as you want, or ammo supply last. Step 4: Take it home. Step 5: Clean it. I don't care what may be the going fad about leaving your firearms dirty, no it probably won't hurt your firearm but if you are so an** about break in and accuracy then clean the bloody thing when you are done. That's it, nothing more, nothing less.
Another guntuber sent letters/e-mails to over 20 companies I believe it was about barrel break-in and they all said the same thing, it's not needed. I don't care if it's a pistol, revolver, rifle, or shotgun clean it when you first get it and clean it when you are done. Just do this and you will have a firearm that will last you for your entire life.
"If you don't need better than 1/2 moa..." 2 moa is as good as I can shoot.
If I can't hit the deer, I shoot minute of cow.
But they told me not to do that in WalMart again...
Dont feel bad. I aim for the minute of man range. Bwahahahahahaha.
Can anybody recommend a channel for people who buy cheap barrels
That was great, glad you didn’t end up doing something stupid like breaking in a barrel although I can foresee at least one… or two issues that may be viewed as negative regarding the path to the meat grinder, biggest one I think is you will never be able to eat a cheeseburger again. Thank you Erik for being you.
I do the shoot at the range clean at home break in technique.
Now that was funny! Thanks for the laugh Eric!!!
Dose a barrel has to be new to brake in?
I just bought my first dedicated long range gun. Yes, it’s more budget but it’s just to get me into the sport. It’s a Bergara B14. I plan on breaking it in because I figure it can’t hurt. I read a lot of shade on Bergara barrels. Does anyone have any thoughts on this rifle? I also topped in with the Burris XTR II 4-20.
Bergara are perfect starter rifles for precision shooting. I’ve never owned a Bergara that wasn’t a shooter (as far as factory rifles go).
I watched this video 3x and lmao everytime! Thanks Erik!!!
Seriously the best channel. Informative and entertaining!! Lol
Great video 👍🏻.
Reloading video i hope soon?
I’m so glad I watched to the end
I've never broken in a barrel and I let my barrels heat up. That takes all the fun out worrying about that stuff.
That was so funny. I'm clear now what to do or rather not to do. Thanks
So if I take the Option B door, what do I use as my jam length, and how much jump do I allow for? And don't say "right across the room". My barrel is actually pretty well broken in.
I love this! How in H could anyone buy a custom barrel and not know this!?
I have a feeling a lot of folks still won't get it.
Everytime you shoot it you're "breaking in" the barrel.
Best break in procedure i've used!
Funny! The first new gun I’ve bought was a Model 700 BDL in 7MM Rem Mag. At the time I didn’t know there was such a thing as breaking in the barrel and my first five shots out of it were to sight it in at 100 yards. I then shot about 40 more to find and verify a good load for it. It shot 5/8” with 160 Partitions leaving the barrel at 3000 FPS and continued to do so after 500 plus rounds. I don’t know how well it didn’t after that since someone stole it...Jerk wads! Anyway, that was funny!
Lol...if UA-cam would let us, I'd be "liking" this video until my phone quit.
I understand this is an old post but I have a question for Erik or anyone that can answer it. I am looking to get a new barrel for my 30 BR that has a Bat action. Everyone I know that could make me a barrel only makes them with a .330 neck which requires one to turn all their brass. I would like to go with a no-turn barrel this time. Any help would be appreciated. Not concerned with location of gunsmith and happy to have it shipped. If you don't know anyone but might know a better place to post this question then please let me know that.
You will need to buy your own reamer. You will also have a terrible time dealing with donuts because you are necking brass all the way up to 30 caliber from 6mm.
Join my members forum. I can help you there. www.shootsmallgroups.com/register/basic-member/
@@ErikCortina Wow that's awesome that you replied. You prolly don't shoot a 30 BR so don't know there cannot be an issue with donuts because of the use of FB bullets that never get seated deep enough to hit the donut. Where would be a good place to order a reamer? Anything special I should look for when ordering one?
Was working on breaking in my new bergara b14 hmr in .300 win mag today with 190gr sig sauer ammo. 3 shot Group was .588 @ 100yds
Where are your reloading videos ??
Soon...
LMAO!!! Another great video Erik, and as you do i break in my barrels as well. They are all custom barrels as well.
Lol well if he chose the meat grinder route for 1/4 MOA or less then I will too
In all guy hobbies, there are elaborate rituals to get performance gains. Back in the days of tubular road bicycle tires, they used to "age" them for at least 6 months on a spare rim. Turns out rubber only degrades over time, never gets better in any way, so it was all BS.
Duck meat in grinder?
I have tried breaking in barrels before, I think its a scam from the ammo manufacturers, and bore solvent makers to get you to shoot and clean more. I don't have custom match barrels, just budget hunting rifles, so I do a break in of sorts when I get the gun before the range. I clean the barrel like normal, patches, and brushes to make sure its clean. Then I follow up with jb bore paste, then jb bore bright (polish) exactly per the instructions. I guess I figure it is a poor mans lapping job. After that Its off to the range to sight it in. Generally the guns shoot consistently right from sight in, and I just keep them clean and lightly oiled since they are carbon steel.
Can you give me your opinion on acclimating the barrel when tuning a load. I can't honestly say I've ever done it myself. But I've heard people say they run 10 rounds of a specific load to acclimate the barrel. Also ive heard of people cleaning the barrel between shots (a bore snake at minimum). I'd love to hear you thoughts and opinions. Maybe a video about it? I really enjoy listening to your knowledge, please keep up the great content.
I don’t do any of that.
Hello.. Hai origini italiane?
Lol. That was funny! Guess i dont need to worry about it. Put deer meat in grinder door.
I have heard with regards to changing different powders you need to clean up the barrel to get the best accuracy from that load. Is that true?
Hahahaha. Epic! Seriously keep the videos coming. I'm no world class shooter like yourself, but I tend to do this as well. I've never broken in a barrel and while I'm not shooting 1.3" groups at 1k...I'm definitely getting sub MOA out of my rifles.
Any modern rifle that does not shoot sub moa is defective. And you should demand your money back
@@EitriBrokkr you mean custom rifles.
@@wilfordcomeaux9423 no I mean any decent name brand modern bolt action
This was f**king comedy gold!!!!
🤣🤣🤣 Excellent decision making paradigm!! lol
Not only do I not break in my Krieger or Bartlein barrels, I only clean them when shots start walking the paper...
Love it!!!!!!
Best video on UA-cam! But Erik, what type of meat grinder do you use and why?
The barrel doesn't need a break in period but the bolt does. You have to have a special break in lube to do it for making the bolt slide as smoothly and as axially to the barrel as possible. Only that way you will get maximum accuracy out of your rifle. This video here is totally wrong and misleading.
What's the procedure to break in a barrel
Some say it can be done with 20 rounds?
I don’t break in barrels. I shoot them and clean them between 50 and 100 rounds.
Can we ever get to the point?
What are your thoughts on Perferred Barrels? Thanks
Bastard, I watched it to the very end,
And I was like wait a second is that it 😂😂
Same here 🤷♂️
Eric PLEASE PLEASE comment on if you do load development on a new barrel or not. How will your load change after 200 rounds down the barrel
I start preliminary load testing on new barrel. It will change after 100-200 rounds, but you’ll be close already.
I have 1500 rounds through my RPR. One guy asked me about barrel break in. I replied, it is now.
When are you going to do the reloading stuff
Soon
don't nk size
Erik, you have a way with words. In this world you needed to tell that this was a joke.
🤷♂️😂
No he didn't. If people can't tell this is a joke, they need to take whatever device they are using to watch UA-cam back to where they bought it, get their money back, and stay off the interwebs!! 😎
That was funny as hell man ! Thanks!!!
How did I get unsubscribed from Mr. Cortina? Now my education can continue😁
Barrel Break-in doesn’t make sense on a precision barrel that has been machined perfectly and hand lapped. On a mass produced factory rifles you may see a slight benefit if any due to machining marks and slight imperfections like metal burs during the rifling or gas hole drilling process. I personally don’t go any further than shooting a small handful of rounds followed by a quick cleaning to remove any excess copper and powder fouling and then call it good. I mostly do this as a safety check on a new barrel after installation and not because I’m trying to to break in the barrel.
Great video. Thanks for the laugh. 👍👍
🤣🤣🤣 I'm right there with you.
Lol 👀
Eric breaking in a barrel is a pain in the butt but the method with the meat grinder would be a lot more painful and the result a very chewed up d...k , I had a good laugh. Thanks Steve
This was awesome!
lmfao best break in vid I seen . I was at the range and asked how I was going to break in my new barrel pointed to a 300 bag of rounds .Followed by my can of G96 is waiting at home. I think the look I got was bewilderment ,at the total lack of cleaning that was going to happen .Question anybody know how military groups break in their small arms ?
Have you ever had a Brux barrel that didn’t shoot to your standards?
No
oh for sure cartridge concentricity doesn't apply here !! LOL
Tubb Dust!!!!!!!!!!!?
This guy is a hoot.....so glad I found this channel. I would have wasted soooo much time on bullshit old timey rituals.
hahaha... but did you break in the grinder? curious minds need to know!!!
Are your barrels already chambered when you receive them? Awesome aren’t they lapped barrel after they’ve been made?
No, just rifled. I chamber them.
So it's not like a carbon steel wok where you have to 'season' it? Lol.
I will sacrifice my 🅱️enis for 1/4 MOA...
I was seriously sitting here ready to learn. Lol I just go shoot my rifles. Wish I could have customs but right now what I have will do.
There are many opinions on whether or not to break in a new barrel.
Here is an undeniable fact -
The top shooters at my club, ALL break in their barrels.
Want to shoot like the best shooter you know ?
Do what they do.
Old habits die hard.
This guy is one of the best shooters in the country, he was able to shoot a 1.3” group at 1,000 yards. If only he listened to your club buddies and broke in his barrel he might have been able to get that to less than an inch
@@bigz5262 you make a very valid point & one that should be obvious & clear to me.
But 40 years of breaking in barrels & getting decent results, it’s hard to quit on it. I’m certainly not arguing his point, just stating what I see routinely.
@@tommykawasaki9676 that’s fair. I’m betting it’s a lot more mental either way. If you think it helps then it helps you, if not then it doesn’t. Kinda like archery
@@bigz5262 LOL 😂 It probably is mental.
BUT ☝️ let’s say you just forked out 5 grand for a custom rifle & your smith says, “be sure & break er in” & someone in You Tube land says you don’t need to, what would you do ?
EC ain’t paying for your barrel if it shoots crappy. You are.
Although conversely … I would love to be in line to buy the barrels EC throws away. So who knows 🤷♂️
I could talk about this shit all day.
Very funny video I bet I’m going to get a text form a hater because I agree with you 😂 lol
😂
@@ErikCortina on that mini lathe, right??
When I got my new brux barrel I asked them about barrel break in.
They told me to shot 4 rounds then run a patch through it, do this 3 or 4 times and thats it.
I shot 4 rounds and cleaned it and there was some copper fouling, I shot 4 more and cleaned again and there was a slight trace of copper, i shot 4 more and cleaned again and there was no sign of any copper so I left it at that.
They probably get asked that a lot by people who have been convinced that break in is necessary. It's simpler to have a standard answer of something that is fairly easy and not harmful, than to risk alienating some of those customers who think they know better.
This is my thought as well.
If they told you not to break it in, a lot of people would question it. So they just give people what they want. Lol
@@netpackrat
I think the same. When I asked the question they asked me to call them but I live in a different country so I just asked them to email me instead.
Ha, ha, funny man. Why Brux?
Well that just made me hit the SUB. button.....LOL
I guess I lucked out; since my rifles are milsurp they were already pretty broken in by the time I got them. Still can shoot MOA though!
That was a good one.
I don't start barrel break in until I have 100 to 200 rounds through it.
OK you've just rocked up at the range with a new barrel.
Do you do anything different with the first 10 shots?
No
@@ErikCortina Love it! I've not been shooting long, but copped a bit of crap for believing i didn't need to waste time, $ and barrel life on that carry on. my engineering background had a real problem with the break in recommendation. I Could find no satisfactory explanation for what was supposedly happening or a difference in the "requirements" between a 4140 or 416 stainless barrel either.