Nah, he showed interest in "hidden" and subtle things from his earliest works. So i really doubt this was an accident. Im more inclined that he is in some sort of "secret" societies, like goering etc....
Honestly the effort you put into making these is outstanding, she sheer amount of hours you have managed to create out of these games in regards to video analysis is incredible. Could listen to you talk about a game I even hated and it would be interesting! Thank you, Boss
Off topic: Can you please cover Abandoned? As someone who was successfully trained to investigate mysteries and analyze intelligence by Kojima's games, I think you have a unique perspective on how this is flawed detective work and why he's smarter than to build such a surface-level marketing stunt. You might even save some stupid people from being scammed
I love how you spend ages overanalyzing the importance of the title of the mission and the ties to bees without ever addressing the connection to the iconic Stinger Missile supplied to the Mujahadeen in real life, which was also used by Solid Snake later to shoot down the Hind and destroy Metal Gear Rex. After all, what do bees used to defend the hive?
@@job4184 I'm amazed how much more story background and debth these videos provide by analyzing the cutscenes, clearly there was much that went under the radar with this game. I think it could have been most of what it was promised to be, if the record tapes were implemented in another way but I guess there was a limitation of some form maybe budget, time or even Kojima giving the finger to Konami in some form.
@@pauldank3453 It's insane how much went under the radar. Even though most people don't pay attention to the (tiny) details, this guy is really analyzing and it's really impressive. Now I question every sentence in the game looking for hints etcetera
@Cb Bu I agree. Part 2 wasn't as fun as part 1, but luckily there are some new missions included in part 2. The ending seems somehow dissapointing but it's the overall story behind this game that makes it so unique.
One thing I noticed when watching this scene myself for the first time was how similar Sahelanthropus' hand was of that to Venom Snakes artificial arm - as if Venom was gripped by his own phantom pain, and could not escape what he had lost
42:28 My biggest question from Misson 6 was "why does Sahalanphpus look like it is made from stone?", it's really noticeable. Like some giant golem or fossil...
I think he “sounds under the weather” because the chronology of him recovering from his imprisonment. The call in question happens pretty shortly afterwards and it would take anyone quite a while to recover from such conditions and treatment which is an impressive attention to detail in the game, which also points to you not giving context to the linearity of events. Maybe that’s a good thing, but in this instance it can be easily explained based on what we know.
ok i think u need to do collabs,your channel is barely growing but your content is more valuable then Pandora's body or whatever that thing was,maybe one with Game theory,at least a few dozen shout outs from famous channels idk but this channel isn't getting any favors from the algorithm. edit: spelling
This is graduate level work. I would love to be part of a hive where you are the "Queen Bee" and we pumped out quality content after analysing games. Thank you, Boss.
"He is held upside down, flipped, inverted, held by the hand of God over the pits of hell" Kojima saw a shot in a movie and replicated it, don't give him so much credit
Yeah, between the ads, the "If this video gets [x-thousand] views in [timeframe]" tacked on at the end, comments in prior videos about how he won't discuss certain things because it would get the video demonitised, and the absolute reaches he makes for meaning in things that have no deep meaning, it's fairly clear that he's just making these to generate ad revenue.
Discussing the camera style of MGSV? Yes, please. This game has probably the most innovative and cutting edge camera work of any game ever. Considering the depth of Kojima’s work, there is zero doubt the choice to have this game’s (and Ground Zeroes) cutscenes be long one-shots was not made merely for looks.
I find English literature frustrating, reason being is because there's a fine line between analysing, stating you're interpretation, and explaining it and then there's overanalysing, and making things up that don't make sense and waffling (say the same point over and over again) very frustrating indeed 😬😬😬😬 My biggest gripe of them all is that it's subjective, someone may say, this is is great, someone my also give it a different grade and say its bad, but who's to say is correct?
Wow I never made this connection before because I frankly didn't listen to what miller was saying at 22:15, I heard him sure, but I didn't comprehend. "We're not stopping, not until the pain is gone" whereas later in the game upon Snake meeting Skullface face to face before the long car ride scene Skullface says: "You hope that hatred might one day replace the pain, but it never does, it makes a man hideous. Inside, and out!" Khaz was also becoming a Demon.
its a detail easily miss unlss you are obersvant to every thing in the game, but it is hinted t the player if you listen in to your DDdogs in motherbase.
Alright my sons. Here is the truth: There is only one big boss venom is a hallucination Ocelot set up the attack on Mother Base in 1975. Skullface had no need or motive to attack Mother Base, nor was he likely present at the attack. Ocelot however, in his lifelong quest to fulfil his mother’s will, had motive to remove the now directionless Big Boss. At the end of Peace Walker we see Big Boss abandon his own interpretation of the Boss’s will. He no longer believed in the Boss. The hero of GroznyjGrad was gone and instead there was just a mercenary with no direction in his place. Ocelot couldn’t of liked that his idol and the man who was to carry his mother’s legacy had suddenly let it all go. We know both Zero and Sigint were involved in Peace Walker, we don’t know how Ocelot was involved, or even if he was involved. But we do know Ocelot had a long history of secret units (like his own unit in Snake Eater) and we know XOF is a secretive arm of the Patriots and formally part of FOX. We also know they, and Skullface, were not present in Costa Rica. It is my belief that Skullface was enacting his plan to take out Zero during this time and that Ocelot is the one who informed him about Paz (who played a role Ocelot would usually play) and that she knew where Zero was. Ocelot would even promise to deliver Paz and, by extension, Zero to Skullface. For a price. Big Boss needed to lose MSF, he needed to regain purpose and he needed to become the legendary Naked Snake again, as opposed to some vagabond gun for hire. Ocelot approached Huey, acting as an inspection agency. This ensured he could keep Big Boss off of the base during the attack. Things got out of hand when Big Boss arrived back at base though, ending with the crash that wasn’t supposed to transpire. Skullface wasn’t supposed to try and kill Big Boss via Paz either. Neither of these events factored into Ocelot’s plan. Ocelot needed Miller out of the picture, however after the botched destruction of Mother Base he couldn’t just have him killed because he would still hold use in the future. That’s why they were separated at the hospital. Ocelot had a golden opportunity to reshape John into the man he should have been. Having Miller around could have ruined the process. Through tapes, hypnotic suggestion, prolonged exposure to ideas in a controlled environment and through Ocelot’s usual methods of drugging and electrotherapy he breaks Big Boss down to the basics, to a canvas he can reshape into the legend he believes Big Boss should be. He kills off the identity of “John” by creating the narrative that he is a separate person. Miller would be a problem here because he would remind Big Boss of their dream. He could deconstruct Ocelot’s brainwashing of Big Boss. So Ocelot has Miller captured and tortures him severely. We know from MGS and MGS2 that Ocelot was a notorious torturer within the Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 80s. We know that’s where he got the handle “Shalashaska” and we know he was notorious in the region. We also know the Soviets, with the assistance of the Skulls (a Cipher unit) captured Miller, put a bag over his head, limited his vision with sensual deprivation and then he was tortured for no clear reason. His arm and leg were removed, he was likely reminded constantly about the people who died, who he let down. Ocelot needed to break Miller, to turn him insane. Miller would serve as motivation for the newly revamped Big Boss and would also be key in helping drum up troops to follow the legend once more. Money no longer mattered, revenge did. Miller was so broken and vengeful that he had no inclination to look at what was going on. He never even questioned what Ocelot was doing on Mother Base or how he had gained so much influence over operations there. He didn’t question why Ocelot’s KGB unit were on the base with them. Ocelot, for his part, did not want to trigger Big Boss’s memory either. So he behaved completely out of character. He acted like a subordinate to a man he basically had to spoon feed. He spent very little time with the rest of Mother Base’s management team, he took it upon himself to DNA test Eli despite MB having a state of the art medical wing. Ocelot couldn’t risk having “Venom” realise he was the real Big Boss because it would possibly trigger a return to his 1975 outlook. Ocelot is only ever seen behaving like himself away from Big Boss. In front of him he’s this yes man with little personality. He still held Big Boss’s hand and led him down certain paths. The head trauma Big Boss suffered left him in an already damaged and incoherent state so it wasn’t hard for Ocelot to take control from the background. For the lie to be complete Ocelot decides to trigger Big Boss’s belief he isn’t the original. After the breakdown over Paz it became clear to Ocelot that he needed to advance the illusion to cement the idea. As far as ‘Venom’ and Miller needed to know, the man who gave up on the Boss was gone, he was off somewhere starting some fruitless adventure as a complete nobody. But he’d left a message for ‘Venom’. “You’re Big Boss, he is the both of us together”. He was no longer Big Boss, rather, Big Boss was no longer John. Big Boss was a story that would unite the world. The way Ocelot believed his mother had wanted. An icon to unify under that didn’t have a nation, a religion, an economic or sociological model. A man who would fight for what he believed in whilst risking his life for others. Not some money driven war criminal, but a hero. Not an enemy of the times like the Big Boss of 1975, but an icon of the times, like the Big Boss who stopped Nuclear annihilation time and again in the 60s and early 70s. Ocelot could never be the man to carry out his mother’s will in the public eye, he was too far gone by the time he understood. But Big Boss could be that person. We know there was no limit to how far Ocelot would go to see the Boss’s vision realised. Between him and Solid Snake it finally was. Big Boss at the end of everything had regained himself, and probably held onto a bit of his mental doppelganger too. As he made peace with his clone at the end of his life he realised why Ocelot had acted the way he did, and how when his Venom Snake plan fell through Ocelot had decided to put himself through the same ordeal. Ocelot really did carry out the Boss’s will, at the sacrifice of his own name, image, legacy and life. Just like his mother before him.
Hmm I wonder how much of a person can be charged through hypnosis and if fragments of the original person remain. Ocelot goes through something similar and yet he still has his boots the only difference is that he doesn’t have to spurs on them. I may have to revisit 1 again but I don’t remember Liquid using his hands so much in gestures something Ocelot often does. I guess we will see as you continue exploring Boss :)
You're grasping at strings that aren't there dude. These interpretations you think are there are just ramblings of a hack dev team with zero literary talent.
No dude, didn’t you read that at the beginning of the game it cites Nietzsche “There are no facts. Only interpretations” quote? That means that every single moment of the game should be scrutinized and extrapolate to the absurdest of degrees and ramble… I mean, see the parallels with everything in life, past, present and future. Yes, even those events that hasn’t happened yet because Kojima, in his never ending genius, obviously can see the future and use it as an inspiration for his games.
Do you not see the skull like walls in the ruins or Sahelanthropus hand as “the hand of God”? Are telling me that “Where the Bees Sleep?” is just a clever, tongue in cheek name for a mission containing a weapon codenamed “Honeybee” an not a super convoluted riddle that Kojima expected the player to craft with the ramblings of a mad man?! No way!
Not to mention that Skull Face, Quiet and other known people that underwent parasite therapy/had parasite powers (such as The End) didn’t had those eyes. Whole theory is flawed.
the german mission name is "where the bees sleep, there..." this could be a grammar mistake not switching object and verb from english. but since it's lacking the questionmark, it seems intentional as it becomes more ominous. usually this phrasing is used to say if something is allready uncovered there will be even darker secrets. especially since this is the only translation mistake I noticed.
Parasyte therapy doesn't affect the eyes, Quiet is covered in them and her eyes are just fine. Miller grunts in that first call to address the fact he is recovering from the torture. Also those ancient structures had circular shapes and were disconected; the essence of a bee hive is the hexagon shape and connected nature of its cells which gives it its strength.
I'm waiting on some parts to do some maintainance on my rig. As soon as it's ready I'm shooting for 100% I really think there's more to this game than we have found. We need to trigger disarmament. And figure out that last tape.
I always thought of the notion you discuss at 12:50 as more of a meta narrative on gaming and gamer culture. Given the right circumstances, anyone can step into Big Boss, be his “phantom” and perform actions which are admittedly badass, but which they probably couldn’t do themselves in real life.
Hi! It came to my attention an article from a game magazine here in Italy that says that the original name for Skullface should have been Wasp! I don't remember if you mentioned it in the video!
Mirrors, reflections, and the shadow self. Skull face, presented as an inversion of Snake. A mission in which we take back a "CIA weapon" called the "Honey Bee" (AKA: the Stinger), while in reality the Russians employed the RPO-A Shmel (AKA: The Bumblebee) in Afghanistan. One would be forgiven if they believed the Cold War was a single entity, fighting itself.
Late to these amazing breakdowns. Just want to add to it. The Black flies you refer to imo is what we've now confirmed Today as being Graphene oxide nanotechnology. The particulates we see floating around as well as when Venom reaction to Kaz by sneezing is the Bio weapon we know Today as C one 9. Hideo gave a predictive warning as to what was to come. Phantom Pain is so much deeper than I thought it could be. Excellent work.
Given your deep dives, I wonder if you might look into the work of Project Itoh. He befriended Kojima shortly after MGS, was given close information about the series by Kojima and "Kojima noted Itō as being one of the only people who understood the themes and morals in his video games". The books of Project Itoh share a number of characteristics to the Metal Gear series (the fact that he wrote a novelization of Guns of the Patriots from the perspective of Otacon notwithstanding). From mechanisms crafted from animal tissue to discussion of memes and the power of words to nanomachines. The future of warfare, human evolution and consciousness and ego and potential transhumanism. Genocidal Organ in particular might apply, but also Harmony.
I kept expecting Jorin Lee to mention Bladerunner 2049 when he mentioned Interlinked Cells, given the "test" he went through where those words were key to him being "centered".
I wonder if Kojima watches any of these and goes ‘Wow I didn’t think any of this’.
Or hes like finally someone gets it. But either way this guy has made me appreciate V a whole lot more than I did after my initial play through
Nah, he showed interest in "hidden" and subtle things from his earliest works. So i really doubt this was an accident.
Im more inclined that he is in some sort of "secret" societies, like goering etc....
It could also be an accident. It's about an even split between genius and dumbass when it comes to Kojima.
@@hagbardceline7118 not sure bro,too many accidents :)
@@demoxcro786 Kojima is in a secret society. The good kind tho. His works will go down in history. True masterpieces.
If I thought this hard about the metal gear series I feel like I would genuinely start questioning actual reality lmfao
Honestly the effort you put into making these is outstanding, she sheer amount of hours you have managed to create out of these games in regards to video analysis is incredible. Could listen to you talk about a game I even hated and it would be interesting!
Thank you,
Boss
I'm so glad you decided to ditch the "next part coming only if video gets x amount of views"
Do the projects you want to do, we'll be here to view it!
The XOF pin also has the fox's head covered right?
Off topic: Can you please cover Abandoned? As someone who was successfully trained to investigate mysteries and analyze intelligence by Kojima's games, I think you have a unique perspective on how this is flawed detective work and why he's smarter than to build such a surface-level marketing stunt. You might even save some stupid people from being scammed
Imagine having to go after Jorin in class for project presentation.
Might just leave the classroom at that point
This is tragically one of the most intellectually challenging breakdowns that will never be truly appreciated.
This whole channel is a goldmine
The work that goes into these, is out standing. Thanks, Boss
I love how you spend ages overanalyzing the importance of the title of the mission and the ties to bees without ever addressing the connection to the iconic Stinger Missile supplied to the Mujahadeen in real life, which was also used by Solid Snake later to shoot down the Hind and destroy Metal Gear Rex. After all, what do bees used to defend the hive?
the importance of the honey bee for the mujahadeen is explained in-detail in an in-game tape
Because he’s looking for patterns in the static. A lot of this is a reach
Currently replaying mgsv and your videos provide me so much extra info! Makes the game even better. Thanks bud!!! ❤
And jesus there is so much to debate about
@@job4184 I'm amazed how much more story background and debth these videos provide by analyzing the cutscenes, clearly there was much that went under the radar with this game. I think it could have been most of what it was promised to be, if the record tapes were implemented in another way but I guess there was a limitation of some form maybe budget, time or even Kojima giving the finger to Konami in some form.
u lucky m8
@@pauldank3453 It's insane how much went under the radar. Even though most people don't pay attention to the (tiny) details, this guy is really analyzing and it's really impressive. Now I question every sentence in the game looking for hints etcetera
@Cb Bu I agree. Part 2 wasn't as fun as part 1, but luckily there are some new missions included in part 2. The ending seems somehow dissapointing but it's the overall story behind this game that makes it so unique.
One thing I noticed when watching this scene myself for the first time was how similar Sahelanthropus' hand was of that to Venom Snakes artificial arm - as if Venom was gripped by his own phantom pain, and could not escape what he had lost
Funny you mention that, the scientist that makes snakes hand says he was reassigned to making the hands for sahehanthropus
42:28 My biggest question from Misson 6 was "why does Sahalanphpus look like it is made from stone?", it's really noticeable. Like some giant golem or fossil...
or like how the helicopter looks in the cutscene at the start of mission 29
Yeah it could be rust but that means it was damaged. Maybe a failed Metallic Archaea test?
maybe to make an ilussion, or less obvious, to thin that Venom was hallucinating
Sally probably was camouflaged within the mountains in Smasei Laman
I could watch these for hours. Keep up the good work
I think he “sounds under the weather” because the chronology of him recovering from his imprisonment. The call in question happens pretty shortly afterwards and it would take anyone quite a while to recover from such conditions and treatment which is an impressive attention to detail in the game, which also points to you not giving context to the linearity of events. Maybe that’s a good thing, but in this instance it can be easily explained based on what we know.
The comparison of the three images of Afghanistan through the ages is just superb at minute 29:50
ok i think u need to do collabs,your channel is barely growing but your content is more valuable then Pandora's body or whatever that thing was,maybe one with Game theory,at least a few dozen shout outs from famous channels idk but this channel isn't getting any favors from the algorithm. edit: spelling
This is graduate level work. I would love to be part of a hive where you are the "Queen Bee" and we pumped out quality content after analysing games.
Thank you, Boss.
I hope that u continue making vids till mgs6 is out
You are a hopeful person. A VERY hopeful person.
Wait until GTA vi and elder scrolls 6,
so forever
@@nintendo_pirate XD
are you 11
"He is held upside down, flipped, inverted, held by the hand of God over the pits of hell"
Kojima saw a shot in a movie and replicated it, don't give him so much credit
Really good video, but the ads are relentless, it breaks up the info too much. It’s very off putting.
Yeah, between the ads, the "If this video gets [x-thousand] views in [timeframe]" tacked on at the end, comments in prior videos about how he won't discuss certain things because it would get the video demonitised, and the absolute reaches he makes for meaning in things that have no deep meaning, it's fairly clear that he's just making these to generate ad revenue.
Discussing the camera style of MGSV? Yes, please.
This game has probably the most innovative and cutting edge camera work of any game ever. Considering the depth of Kojima’s work, there is zero doubt the choice to have this game’s (and Ground Zeroes) cutscenes be long one-shots was not made merely for looks.
"How about this boss, we'll make an army of Queen Bees"
Me getting ready to fulton female soldiers for outer harem
noticed how the XOF patch the Skullface wears has the head of the fox covered by the lapel of his coat
As a graduate in modern literature, the vocabulary and analytic style in these videos takes me right back to the lecture hall. Keep on keeping on 👍
I find English literature frustrating, reason being is because there's a fine line between analysing, stating you're interpretation, and explaining it and then there's overanalysing, and making things up that don't make sense and waffling (say the same point over and over again) very frustrating indeed 😬😬😬😬
My biggest gripe of them all is that it's subjective, someone may say, this is is great, someone my also give it a different grade and say its bad, but who's to say is correct?
Wow I never made this connection before because I frankly didn't listen to what miller was saying at 22:15, I heard him sure, but I didn't comprehend. "We're not stopping, not until the pain is gone" whereas later in the game upon Snake meeting Skullface face to face before the long car ride scene Skullface says: "You hope that hatred might one day replace the pain, but it never does, it makes a man hideous. Inside, and out!"
Khaz was also becoming a Demon.
its a detail easily miss unlss you are obersvant to every thing in the game, but it is hinted t the player if you listen in to your DDdogs in motherbase.
Kaz is already a demon since PW, the mf used Bb and did bring paz and the professor to MSF, he was working with cipher before
Oh yeah, the time has come too
I was waiting for this, nice way to start the second half of my day!!
Currently REplaying MGSV due to all your videos. Thanks for that. And thanks for making these videos
Edit: love the use of the AD bees bit
Oh my god thank you!!!!!
14 ads 🙄
Alright my sons. Here is the truth:
There is only one big boss venom is a hallucination
Ocelot set up the attack on Mother Base in 1975. Skullface had no need or motive to attack Mother Base, nor was he likely present at the attack. Ocelot however, in his lifelong quest to fulfil his mother’s will, had motive to remove the now directionless Big Boss.
At the end of Peace Walker we see Big Boss abandon his own interpretation of the Boss’s will. He no longer believed in the Boss. The hero of GroznyjGrad was gone and instead there was just a mercenary with no direction in his place. Ocelot couldn’t of liked that his idol and the man who was to carry his mother’s legacy had suddenly let it all go. We know both Zero and Sigint were involved in Peace Walker, we don’t know how Ocelot was involved, or even if he was involved. But we do know Ocelot had a long history of secret units (like his own unit in Snake Eater) and we know XOF is a secretive arm of the Patriots and formally part of FOX. We also know they, and Skullface, were not present in Costa Rica. It is my belief that Skullface was enacting his plan to take out Zero during this time and that Ocelot is the one who informed him about Paz (who played a role Ocelot would usually play) and that she knew where Zero was. Ocelot would even promise to deliver Paz and, by extension, Zero to Skullface. For a price.
Big Boss needed to lose MSF, he needed to regain purpose and he needed to become the legendary Naked Snake again, as opposed to some vagabond gun for hire. Ocelot approached Huey, acting as an inspection agency. This ensured he could keep Big Boss off of the base during the attack. Things got out of hand when Big Boss arrived back at base though, ending with the crash that wasn’t supposed to transpire. Skullface wasn’t supposed to try and kill Big Boss via Paz either. Neither of these events factored into Ocelot’s plan.
Ocelot needed Miller out of the picture, however after the botched destruction of Mother Base he couldn’t just have him killed because he would still hold use in the future. That’s why they were separated at the hospital. Ocelot had a golden opportunity to reshape John into the man he should have been. Having Miller around could have ruined the process. Through tapes, hypnotic suggestion, prolonged exposure to ideas in a controlled environment and through Ocelot’s usual methods of drugging and electrotherapy he breaks Big Boss down to the basics, to a canvas he can reshape into the legend he believes Big Boss should be. He kills off the identity of “John” by creating the narrative that he is a separate person.
Miller would be a problem here because he would remind Big Boss of their dream. He could deconstruct Ocelot’s brainwashing of Big Boss. So Ocelot has Miller captured and tortures him severely. We know from MGS and MGS2 that Ocelot was a notorious torturer within the Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 80s. We know that’s where he got the handle “Shalashaska” and we know he was notorious in the region. We also know the Soviets, with the assistance of the Skulls (a Cipher unit) captured Miller, put a bag over his head, limited his vision with sensual deprivation and then he was tortured for no clear reason. His arm and leg were removed, he was likely reminded constantly about the people who died, who he let down. Ocelot needed to break Miller, to turn him insane. Miller would serve as motivation for the newly revamped Big Boss and would also be key in helping drum up troops to follow the legend once more. Money no longer mattered, revenge did. Miller was so broken and vengeful that he had no inclination to look at what was going on. He never even questioned what Ocelot was doing on Mother Base or how he had gained so much influence over operations there. He didn’t question why Ocelot’s KGB unit were on the base with them.
Ocelot, for his part, did not want to trigger Big Boss’s memory either. So he behaved completely out of character. He acted like a subordinate to a man he basically had to spoon feed. He spent very little time with the rest of Mother Base’s management team, he took it upon himself to DNA test Eli despite MB having a state of the art medical wing. Ocelot couldn’t risk having “Venom” realise he was the real Big Boss because it would possibly trigger a return to his 1975 outlook.
Ocelot is only ever seen behaving like himself away from Big Boss. In front of him he’s this yes man with little personality. He still held Big Boss’s hand and led him down certain paths. The head trauma Big Boss suffered left him in an already damaged and incoherent state so it wasn’t hard for Ocelot to take control from the background.
For the lie to be complete Ocelot decides to trigger Big Boss’s belief he isn’t the original. After the breakdown over Paz it became clear to Ocelot that he needed to advance the illusion to cement the idea. As far as ‘Venom’ and Miller needed to know, the man who gave up on the Boss was gone, he was off somewhere starting some fruitless adventure as a complete nobody. But he’d left a message for ‘Venom’. “You’re Big Boss, he is the both of us together”. He was no longer Big Boss, rather, Big Boss was no longer John. Big Boss was a story that would unite the world. The way Ocelot believed his mother had wanted. An icon to unify under that didn’t have a nation, a religion, an economic or sociological model. A man who would fight for what he believed in whilst risking his life for others. Not some money driven war criminal, but a hero. Not an enemy of the times like the Big Boss of 1975, but an icon of the times, like the Big Boss who stopped Nuclear annihilation time and again in the 60s and early 70s. Ocelot could never be the man to carry out his mother’s will in the public eye, he was too far gone by the time he understood. But Big Boss could be that person.
We know there was no limit to how far Ocelot would go to see the Boss’s vision realised. Between him and Solid Snake it finally was. Big Boss at the end of everything had regained himself, and probably held onto a bit of his mental doppelganger too. As he made peace with his clone at the end of his life he realised why Ocelot had acted the way he did, and how when his Venom Snake plan fell through Ocelot had decided to put himself through the same ordeal. Ocelot really did carry out the Boss’s will, at the sacrifice of his own name, image, legacy and life. Just like his mother before him.
Hmm I wonder how much of a person can be charged through hypnosis and if fragments of the original person remain. Ocelot goes through something similar and yet he still has his boots the only difference is that he doesn’t have to spurs on them. I may have to revisit 1 again but I don’t remember Liquid using his hands so much in gestures something Ocelot often does. I guess we will see as you continue exploring Boss :)
hypnosis is a powerful thing
potentially it could kill or change a personality
When does Jorin sleep?
Keep up the good work Boss
I feel like Hideo would love your videos on his games. You go into such in depth detail it's fascinating thank you my friend.
Every time I think Kojima is over-celebrated, these analyses videos put me in my place.
These should be the very videos that gave you validation on your initial thoughts lol
You're grasping at strings that aren't there dude. These interpretations you think are there are just ramblings of a hack dev team with zero literary talent.
No dude, didn’t you read that at the beginning of the game it cites Nietzsche “There are no facts. Only interpretations” quote? That means that every single moment of the game should be scrutinized and extrapolate to the absurdest of degrees and ramble… I mean, see the parallels with everything in life, past, present and future. Yes, even those events that hasn’t happened yet because Kojima, in his never ending genius, obviously can see the future and use it as an inspiration for his games.
man these are great to watch at 4am
I love fan theories and speculation, but holy shit do yours reach so hard.
If you reach any harder you could pull a muscle my guy.
Do you not see the skull like walls in the ruins or Sahelanthropus hand as “the hand of God”? Are telling me that “Where the Bees Sleep?” is just a clever, tongue in cheek name for a mission containing a weapon codenamed “Honeybee” an not a super convoluted riddle that Kojima expected the player to craft with the ramblings of a mad man?! No way!
Again the eyes of Miller look milky because of cataracts, same as CT…IMO…
Not to mention that Skull Face, Quiet and other known people that underwent parasite therapy/had parasite powers (such as The End) didn’t had those eyes. Whole theory is flawed.
I'm starting to see more MGSV videos popping up. Awesome game, deserves a lot more love.
the german mission name is "where the bees sleep, there..."
this could be a grammar mistake not switching object and verb from english.
but since it's lacking the questionmark, it seems intentional as it becomes more ominous.
usually this phrasing is used to say if something is allready uncovered there will be even darker secrets.
especially since this is the only translation mistake I noticed.
7:45 Huey is responsible for the Patriots AIs being unempathetic.
Dick.
I dunno of it’s done by you or UA-cam does to your videos, an ad every 3 minutes. Are you fucking kidding me?
Quality, as always. Hope to see that GTAV follow up video.
Me too!!
Have you noticed there is A LOT of voice dialog that doesnt match the subtitles....oversight.....clever riddle? Dig deeper friends
Parasyte therapy doesn't affect the eyes, Quiet is covered in them and her eyes are just fine. Miller grunts in that first call to address the fact he is recovering from the torture.
Also those ancient structures had circular shapes and were disconected; the essence of a bee hive is the hexagon shape and connected nature of its cells which gives it its strength.
Precisely. Thank you!
I'm waiting on some parts to do some maintainance on my rig. As soon as it's ready I'm shooting for 100%
I really think there's more to this game than we have found.
We need to trigger disarmament. And figure out that last tape.
We'll never legitimately hear that tape
@@BigBadRanch who knows. It seems to be one of those threads that we only began to pull on.
46:04 Correction: Its not a pin but a patch
Outstanding
15:48 An audiobook of 1984 done by an HW impersonator? That's trippy.
I always thought of the notion you discuss at 12:50 as more of a meta narrative on gaming and gamer culture. Given the right circumstances, anyone can step into Big Boss, be his “phantom” and perform actions which are admittedly badass, but which they probably couldn’t do themselves in real life.
Holy fuck I never knew about Kaz eyes! I always seen it as blindness from the torture
Damm Kojimas drug dealer must have the best stuff
Hi! It came to my attention an article from a game magazine here in Italy that says that the original name for Skullface should have been Wasp! I don't remember if you mentioned it in the video!
goddamn, you should have more viewers because these videos must have taken a long time to make
Miller and the parasites has been a major theory since the game first came out though
Mirrors, reflections, and the shadow self. Skull face, presented as an inversion of Snake. A mission in which we take back a "CIA weapon" called the "Honey Bee" (AKA: the Stinger), while in reality the Russians employed the RPO-A Shmel (AKA: The Bumblebee) in Afghanistan. One would be forgiven if they believed the Cold War was a single entity, fighting itself.
this got quite schizophrenic
Extremely.
Thought were do bees sleep is refrence to the stinger missile. A missile system that was comman in afghanistan.
No dude. It’s totally a super complicated conspiracy that evokes perpectivism.
Always happy to see new stuff! I hope you are well!
Metal Gear Arrested Development - The Phantom Annyeong
*Staff Assigned*: Loose Seal
I needed that, exciting MGSV cutscene analysis during boring work
You seriously didn't mentioned the fact that Mother Base is honeycomb-shaped?
Also, how can a personnel deployed weapon be considered safe? It’s bound and determined that someone will die and drop the tech/weapon.
I love the inclusion of the Arrested Development clips
Stinger missiles
Late to these amazing breakdowns. Just want to add to it. The Black flies you refer to imo is what we've now confirmed Today as being Graphene oxide nanotechnology. The particulates we see floating around as well as when Venom reaction to Kaz by sneezing is the Bio weapon we know Today as C one 9. Hideo gave a predictive warning as to what was to come. Phantom Pain is so much deeper than I thought it could be. Excellent work.
Buzz buzz
BEADS?!
Not the bees NOT THE BEEEEEES~~~!
LOVE UR VIDS....BUT HOW MANY ADS DO YOU REALLY NEED KILLER?
The fact that Kojima didn't get to finish this game gives it Nolan-esque levels of ambiguity
It would be cool if Donna Burke made you a theme song 👌
You always keep us waiting
Kept us waiting huh
@@job4184 he’s pretty good
this is whole series completely changed how i view mgs v
and im not even half way through i think...
Toriyama and Kojima are probably related...
You talk very eloquently and have a vast vocabulary
your links to patreon and twitter are broken it seems
Wow people still active😸
Any chance you would do a What Even Happened In SNATCHER? With Suda51's SDATCHER as well?
Given your deep dives, I wonder if you might look into the work of Project Itoh. He befriended Kojima shortly after MGS, was given close information about the series by Kojima and "Kojima noted Itō as being one of the only people who understood the themes and morals in his video games".
The books of Project Itoh share a number of characteristics to the Metal Gear series (the fact that he wrote a novelization of Guns of the Patriots from the perspective of Otacon notwithstanding). From mechanisms crafted from animal tissue to discussion of memes and the power of words to nanomachines. The future of warfare, human evolution and consciousness and ego and potential transhumanism. Genocidal Organ in particular might apply, but also Harmony.
leetmotifs 🔥🔥
I kept expecting Jorin Lee to mention Bladerunner 2049 when he mentioned Interlinked Cells, given the "test" he went through where those words were key to him being "centered".
Incredible work my friend. The work....I wish I could pay or be a patreon, thank you for this content
What an odd story I've committed myself to being a part of. Why in the world did I choose to be "human"?
35:52 oh no oh no no no no
literally 1984
Another badass video thanks man.
Fresh out of the oven! Ill reserve this experience for later tonight with a coffe. Keep up keeping up Jorin!
Jorin you work so hard on putting out such amazing content for us Kojima-fans. Thank you so much!
I love the arrested development scenes. I was listening to the show while playing mgsv a few weeks ago
BEADS!?!
just the level of work put in this is amazing and worth thanking for. we all appreciate it boss
38:05 I looked away at the perfect time thinking that this was somehow the same cutscene
Brilliant, insightful, thought provoking video thank you 👏
Beautiful video essay again. I love this game 200% more
🐐 keep this up! And the calls that you get in the chopper should stay too nice touch.
Please, don't stop making these videos. Thank you!
Btw, your patreon link is messed up, unless it is only for me.
This video is pretty damn good. Good work, man!
You bring so much depth into this that I'd never know