Rockstars Who Tried to Save Scott Weiland (Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver)
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In today’s video were’ going to take a look at 3 rockstars who tried to save Stone Temple Piltos and Velvet Revolver frontman Scott Weiland.
Bursting onto the scene in the early 90’s Stone Temple Pilots had almost immediate success thanks to their 1992 debut record Core. The band would continue to have sustained success throughout the rest of the decade and early 2000’s before their implosion in 2003. Weiland would go on to play with supergroup velvet revolver which featured 3 members of Guns n’ Roses before he finally reformed with stone temple pilots and played with his last band the wildabouts. Weiland would sadly pass away in December of 2015 while on tour after being found dead on the band’s tour bus as a result of an accidental overdose with alcohol and drugs found in his system.
In 1992 Stone Temple Pilots would tour with Megadeth. Megadeth leader Dave Mustaine would reveal to Loudwire in 2015 that while on tour with STP he gave advice to Scott Weiland telling him
"It's really peculiar the way things went down with me and Scott, because I was in Finland doing a 'rate a record' thing for a magazine one time and they had given us the 'Core' record to review. And I was listening to it and I thought, 'Either this is a really bad joke or these guys are gonna be massive, because they've got a sound that's very similar to a lot of the great bands that are in the alternative scene right now, but I don't know if it's a parody or if it's the real deal.
Impressed Mustaine requested the band open for Megadeth on their 'Countdown To Extinction' tour, which they did. Mustaine would admit to helping the band rearrange songs on their setlist to help the flow of their show a bit more. He would add: t"he thing that I regret was at the end of the tour, I told him, I said, 'Look, Scott, you're gonna be huge. You're gonna have money, you're gonna have drugs, and it's gonna be everywhere.' And I said, 'If you do anything, stay away from heroin.'
Mustaine would criticize those close to Weiland. Mustaine would add he thought those close to him took him out of rehab too soon so he could make money on the road towards the final year of his life.
Adding
"No song, no performance, no amount of money is worth a human life. And I think that the music industry suffered a tragic loss. But as much as the onus is on Scott for doing it, there are other people that are responsible for that."
Kiss Gene Simmons
In 1996 Kiss would reunite with their original lineup and Stone Temple Pilots were supposed to open a handful of gis for the band. Stone Temple Pilots had released their album the same year Tiny Music... Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop. STP’s tour to support the album was hampered by Weiland’s addiction and the band would have to end up pulling out of some tour dates including playing Tiger Stadium with Kiss in the summer of 1996. Ironically, the band would be replaced by Alice in Chains, whose frontman Layne Staley was also dealing with addiction and a band who didn’t tour much to support their new album at the time. Kiss Gene Simmons would tell Detroit Radio Station WRIF 101.1 FM radio
"I met Weiland at a club and I said to him, 'Look, you've gotta be straight, cut it out with all the heroin and the crap, respect the fans, get up un stage, do a great show, it's all yours. We'll support you, but I want you clean on stage.'
"[He told me] 'Gene, I promise!' It's like what anybody who's a drug addict and alcoholic says. 'I've been clean for a million years,' and stuff. And then he died.
"And I don't believe it [when they tell me they have beaten their addictions]," he said. "If you were an alcoholic or a drug addict, you're gonna be that for the rest of your life. And that's what they tell you in AA and other organizations - that every day it's gonna be a decision. You're gonna have to make that decision to be straight or ruin your life and hurt everybody around you.
Velvet Revolver
Formed in 2003 the supergroup would feature ⅗ of Guns N’ Roses use your illusion lineup in addition to scott weiland and guitarist Dave Kushner. Scott was the last member to join the group as the band spent a year looking for a fr
Saw STP in Boston, in what was then called the Fleet Center, in the mid 90’s. I’ve never witnessed a frontman so completely empowering and invigorating a large crowd, while simultaneously absolutely crushing the vocals on a set list that featured a variety of songs: the raw, growling anthems (Dead & Bloated, Wicked Garden), the melodic pop pieces (Interstate Love Song, Vasoline), and nuanced acoustic cuts (Pretty Penny, Seven Caged Tigers).
Weiland’s death, like Cornell, Staley, and Bennington, was such a tragic gut-punch for fans of not just great guitar rock… but superior, generational vocal talent in rock.
Add Mark Lanegan to that list
@@DJ-wx2gz Mark and Scott are such huge losses to music. Fucking legends.
I’ve started investigating him more because of my own bipolar diagnosis. And watching videos of him lately later in his life, it’s so sad and I realize how amazing he was. I had all the records. But I never really realize how passionate this guy was. And how agonizing his life was.
It's especially painful since there aren't great rock bands producing great music anymore. These guys kept the party going...until they didn't. Of course, we have to include Cobain on the list. Now we're left with hip hop. No thank you!
@@ottomatic3123 so like give an example. When was the last time you tried to find good music and was disappointed with what you heard?
My kids send me bands all the time and I’m hearing some pretty awesome amazing music myself
Mustaine being rescued from drugs by Alice Cooper remains my favorite story from the 90s... I'm glad Dave tried to reach out for Scott and inviting them on a tour, you can see in the earlier STP's shows Weiland wasn't hooked on the stuff yet.
I feel bad that it seems like Dave blames himself... there is a part of his quote that the maker of this video didn't put here where he says Scott did the opposite of what Dave told him, so maybe he accidentally pushed him into it rather than pull him away.
Dave tried to help Scott, he did his best. It didn't work, but that's not his fault.
I saw STP with Megadeth in '92. Great show.
Like so many great artists, Scott had one of those beautiful, tragic souls that just burn so bright, and so hot, they flicker out too soon.
Or he liked singing and smack.
Don't overdo it.
Keats he was not.
Plus, he was about sixty-four.
@@stephengallagher2209 I don't know, but maybe.
@@stephengallagher2209 he was 48 when he died not 64
@@stephengallagher2209 64 ??? WTF are you talking about
No, it wasn't poetic. He had talent. Then he fucking died.
I know from experience and it's a miracle I'm still alive. A lot of my friends aren't.
Whether you have talent and are famous or not, addiction kills.
Addicts have to WANT help. As long as they don't, you can try, and, try, but, it won't make a difference.
100%
Yup it’s up to them not you .. just the way it is
But that shouldn’t keep anyone from trying. It isn’t impossible.
Running outta money was enough for me.
Making the choice to go out and hit the road every night and be at clubs late and be around a bunch of intoxicated people is basically making a choice not to be sober. I know that sucks to say, but it’s true.
Scott was a real Rock Star,and he will be missed 🙏❤
I saw a lot of bands and front men. Scott in Johnson City , Tennessee in 1997. Was a pinnacle of Rock and Roll. 🤯. Cheap Trick opened for them. Amazing !
I got to see STP on New Years 2001 in Orlando, Florida for $100. Back then that kind of money for a band was almost double what I had paid to see a band at that point. My girlfriend canceled at the last minute and I was a little upset but was going anyway. I’d see well over 100 concerts and wasn’t expecting to see the best concert since I saw Yes on my birthday in 85. But they were incredible from start to finish. I got a free drink which I had a coke. And I gave my other free drink to a really hot chick that decided to attach herself to me. I had the best time since I got stung by bees and had sex in the shower with my girlfriend while almost passing out🤣🤣🤣Scott was just an incredible frontman! 10/10👍🏻👍🏻
Regardless of being a singer Scott was an unsung hero for the Alternative/Grunge era .. what a great voice and immense talent .. RIP bro
"Big Bang Baby" is still a banger to me.
I was luck enough to see this man both with VR and STP in different ocasions in São Paulo, Brazil. Great singer and performer. I got really sad when he passed.
Watch the video from Velvet Revolver fall to pieces , Im pretty sure this song was written about and for Scott , The whole band tried to save him and his friends and family to no avail it sux , We all lost one of the best rock vocalist of all time RIP SW !
The song is about Scott Weiland's battle with heroin and its toll on his relationship with his wife. I think Scott himself wrote the lyrics.
I was at the kiss and Alice In Chains show at Tigers stadium I went there to see Alice and they rocked but when kiss came on they were so freaking loud I had to leave because I was literally going def. Also ironically I met Scott Wieland 2 weeks before he died because he was playing a show at the hard rock in Detroit and I worked in the same office building. His tour bus was parked in front of the building and I went out for a smoke and there he was. It was pretty sad when I found out he passed away in that bus alone.
Was fortunate to see Scott with VR on their first tour. Absolutely crushing. Get their Blu-ray.
Scott was such a great singer and front man for step and velvet revolver.
I got to see stp several times in the 90s.
In my opinion he had such a amazing voice.
I still play stp and VR all the time.
You are missed tremendously Scott r.i.p
Wild child.
He had great stage presence in STP
@ 4:16 Sensi Beni!!!!
He helped Mike (Duff) and Scott LOTS!!!
if you've clicked on this piece! I HIGHLY RECOMMEND "Its so easy and other lies" by DUFF or "Not dead and not for sale" by Scott.
I'd hate to sound snooty but I was lucky enough to find the hardcover versions!!
(If ur into books... u kno how tits that is!🤘🎸)
GREAT READS!!!! 2 books I own that I wouldn't part with
I remember feeling physically ill when I heard about Scott's passing. I live around an hour or so from where he was found dead and it happened during a relatively dark period of my life as well.....
God bless you Scott....R.I.P. LOVE ETERNAL
Alcohol and drugs? Alcohol IS drugs...
TY ❤
Thankyou Scott For Everything...Still Shining In The Great Gig In The Sky...Earth Soul Blues RocknRoll...
People love to dunk on Dave Mustaine, Gene Simmons, and Ted Nugent, (and sometimes I can see why) but the 3 of them have a lot of guts and have had some difficult conversations with different musicians to try to steer them away from substance abuse. Credit where credit is due.
I just can’t get past Nugent’s revolting character to believe he’s got any redeeming qualities. Mustaine and Simmons aren’t much better, but at least they aren’t actively preaching hate.
@@pinkmonkeybird2644 😂
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@pinkmonkeybird2644 Ted, don't kiss anyone's A$$, And he is a patriotic guy. You have a problem with that?? ,if so you have issues.
@@geneschweiss4872 Ted had sex with children
Had the pleasure of meeting And being around Scott in Ohio some years back. Really nice guy but so troubled. He had a handler with him that went everywhere he went. He wanted to walk miles to a local park and the lady had to walk with him. She didn’t seem bothered by it, I assume she was paid very well and seemed to care a great deal for him. I don’t know what it would have taken to save Scott, seems everyone tried really hard.
It was never if but when for Scott. Got to see them a few times and they always rocked.
I met Scott in 2000 and he looked and sounded great. Seems like with certain interviews and appearances that there were times when he was on and on fire, and then times when he looked and sounded like a homeless junkie.
I was at that awkward show in Corpus Christ TX. It was rough seeing him.
It was actually Scott whom came up with the band name, both times actually.
He had a shrine thing with an STP oil sticker in the middle... it was what inspired the band to come up with a name for the letters.
2ndly he came up with BLACK VELVET REVOLVER . Everyone liked it buy wasnt 1000% on it!!
Then after some disputes and debates, they all said "how about just VELVET REVOLVER" and.... as they say the rest is history or printed in ink!
The first incidence is cool, and Stone Temple Pilots is a great name for a rock band. However, to me the name Velvet Revolver is just a knock off of Guns*n*Roses, soft and hard at the same time, a weapon and something opposite. For GnR the concept fit at that time, though.
I’ve seen some really incredible bands over 40+ years. Surprisingly Stone Temple Pilots stole the top spot to me. They did all they’re hits. Then did them all again acoustically. Then did them all a third time but with even more power. It was just fantastic on New Year’s Eve in like 02 or 03. All I know was I thought they were cool. But when I went to see them live and completely by myself because everyone had to work or couldn’t make it. I hooked up with some fine Betty I never met before and cheered all night with her till she noticed she lost her purse. I never saw her after that but I had a blast with her. But the performances throughout the whole band was pure intense jamming fun. I thought they’d be good but was totally blown away. Like seeing skynyrd in they’re prime or The Doors or Yes!
If you attended any anonymous meeting you know the great part of being clean and sober. Everyone has something they carry. If you enjoyed something to death -- death is on your door step. At least in sobriety decisions you make can comfort you instead of harm. Addiction is for life because of influence. Touch individuals if you really think you made a connection. Not all people are bad? In the least learn what bad is so someone can know something about you besides a statistic or record. Being fake is what kills.
It's harshly sad that grunge or any music has to be aligned with the attraction of heroin, or any addictive substance. I love STP & always will.
"Live Fast, Die Young, And Leave A Beautiful Corpse" James Douglas Morrison
I saw them play one night at the Fresno Fair in 1993. They came out and KICKED A**. One of the best shows I ever been to
Dude was a good man and an amazing vocalist. Very troubled, so fucking sad how he died. Poor dude just couldn't kick the drugs
Great video.
😜💭
I don't understand why STP got so much flack for sounding like what was popular at the time. It's what they liked and how they wanted to sound. Every single music genera has a particular sound.. All the 80s hair bands sound the same, all the 80s country songs sound the same, the Golden oldies all sound the same.. So why were they singled out for sounding like 90s alternative music?? I loved them.. They're actually my number one grunge band and Scott was the sexiest man to me, especially during his early years when he had meat on his bones ❤❤❤❤
I was 19 at the time they broke. They just blew up a year later than Pearl Jam, Nirvana and the rest. The fact that Grunge was rooted in punk meant that everyone was obsessed with authenticity, so arriving a little late to the party made them suspect. Pretty dumb, but its how it was. Bush got it even worse.
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I remember Kurt Loder from Mtv giving Bush and STP such a hard time lol. I didn't care tho, they sounded great to my ears 😍
They didn’t draw inspiration from any of the alternative bands, as a matter of fact, they have a few demos from 1989 with the same sound as it did on Core. They were trying to copy The Doors if anything.
As a matter of a fact, they were a band before Pearl Jam was even a thought, they didn’t want to sound like any of the bands from the same time.
@@sourgir-wh6xd For sure. Of Bush is was because Gavin was so dang pretty.
In the case of Bush I'd say they won in the end. I was listening to the last album and I was like, "Damn. This rocks."
You know when Dave Mustaine tells you to straighten out that things must've been very bad indeed. RIP Scott.
I knew STP since I was 13 and i still listen to them now, great band.
Was one of my favorite bands first saw them in Anaheim and then in Texas back in the early 90s when I was fixing to start hight school. Was saddened when I heard he passed away.
I've always wondered what happened with Velvet Revolver and why Scott went back to drugs. That makes sense now
gotta love ass hats like Dave Cumstaine and Jew Simmons coming in with the 20 20 hindsight
You can’t love someone sober
The only person I don't believe tried to help Scott,is Gene Simmons,cause all he would have done was belittle him or put him down,Gene would only do or say something,if it was going to financially benefit him. Gene the money grabbing "Blackheart",only cares about what he has,and what he can get from you.
Agree. I liked Gene as a musician but as a person he's a piece of shit. If I was to ever see him ( which is very unlikely)I will tell him .
Scott Weiland, Layne Staley, Andrew Wood, Chris Cornell.. the greatest frontmen of my generation. And a definite pattern...
Man, I was supposed to see STP while I was on vacation in Maui in 1996, but the concert was cancelled days before because of Scott going into rehab! Gutted!
I really feel sad for Scott, he needed help
I remember sometime before Weiland passed away there was a footage of him doing horrible renditions of his own songs with the Walkabouts. It was tragic, because you could tell he doesn't have much life left in him at that point.
Sucks but at least we have the music that lives on.
I disagree with alcoholism. I'm not tempted anymore. I lost the ability to walk because of it.
I always wonder if its just straight up addiction or was there always a bigger mental illness problem first. Like an actual clinical mental problem.
Good point
Some people self medicate. It's possible I guess.
Read Scott’s book. You’ll learn a lot. ❤
He was molested by a neighbor as a kid..and never learned to deal with that
VR almost had the singer from Buckcherry (Joshua Todd) but he wouldn't go without his guitarist (Scott I think?) And they didnt have the space for the guitarist so it stalled, plus they felt Josh had a monotone kinds thing going on. (I love his voice on their 1st LP -lit up & crushed-)
his final interview is so sad, slurring his words and totally out of it 😞
Richard Patrick and Doug Grean tried to save him as well.
There's a conspiracy theory that Stone Temple Pilots collaborated with the oil companies to create Interstate Love Song, since that song is perfect for driving and thus causes people to buy more gasoline.
True facts stated.
That is hilarious
If that’s the case, White Zombie’s LaSexorcisto must have been sponsored by the Nitromethane industry.
Wtf lol
STP Oil is the very finest!
Saw him many times with STP and VR. He is one of the best, and one of the worst, front men I've ever seen. When he was on, he was fire. When he was wasted, it was terribly deflating. Liked his last record, hate that he ODd, like almost all the greats from that time.
I must've seen STP 4 or 5 times over the years. Never once was it not a great show. Scott cared about the fans so much
Lesson: Don't trust somebody close not using and not caring in a bad way.
Lesson: Don't trust that same person coming to you and being nice out of nowhere.
Lesson: It is never time to fill in boots and link.
Lesson: It is only co-dependency and dishonesty to suit other pleasure seekers.
I'll never forget that Richard Patrick made fun of Scott the year he died.
Cant stop an addict
The neighbor raping him as a kid f'ed him up for life
"accidental overdose" ? Might as well say he slipped on a banana peel. What is the correct amount of drugs to ingest on your own volition that constitutes " oops, that was an accident". Being an addict is not an accident.
richard patrick and chester bennington also tried to save him
Chester couldn't save himslef
Scott is one of those guys where it's like, did Scott create the art or did the drugs and addiction and suffering that came with it create the art? Would Scott Weiland, IT manager, have written Big Empty? Such a tragic loss.
Yeah, it's sort of like performance enhancing drugs.
He was molested as a kid (graded as he put it) and never let that go
Love your channel, but you have way too many typos!
Weiland being replaced by Staley is rough.
Yeah, who’s the dude that made that decision. I mean Scott was a notorious junky but if you look at Layne Staley anytime after 93 he looks horrible: thin, gloves and long shirts to cover track marks, bad teeth - let’s replace one guy who’s an addict with a deathwish with another guy who’s an addict with a bigger deathwish.
Gene is imo harsh but true
STP is not the same with out Scott W.
Another 90s icon gone too soon. The STP sound was one of a kind which is what differentiated that 90s sound from any other. Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Chris Cornell are all gone too soon. RIP.
I think you missed out one more thing that mustaine said to Scott 😂. But for real tho RIP Scott.
What you're saying here is very important, this dude was popping drugs for MANY years look at this MF's music videos. Assuming someone is straight is the worst thing to do when it comes to addiction. You NEVER fucking know. Was my favorite singer for a long time, still can't believe Scott is gone.
I think he didn't care if he died...
1:42
no such thing as an "accidental overdose."
Then what is it. Suicide
@@lishamarlar4597 yes. i liked his music, but its no secret what hard drugs lead to. he knew it, and gambled his life anyway.
Most people that do drugs and drink are fighting depression numbs their pain. They are also killing their selves on purpose
@@lishamarlar4597 If they are, "killing their selves on purpose," then you answered your own original question if it is suicide or not.
I met him in passing once. It was Father Day in Denver., Colorado. He made his choices.
Mustaine thought STP was a parody. 😂😂. Goddamn I love that guy!’
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The term "Accidental overdose" is so.....
Nikki Sixx probably thinks Weiland was super cool
Dead on the radio too many to count
Couldn't save Scott from himself.
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Alcoholic...
4ever
🍑🕳️That's the most hypocritical thing ever done🤐it shows why he ended not taking "friends" advice🖕
I would love to know what the record labels Death Clause was in Scott Weiland's record contract...I am sure it was a pretty big payout.
Mustane always talks out of his ass without nothing anything about what he's saying or the situation. No wonder Metallica cut ties with him as soon as they could
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Your opening statement about not being able to "guarantee...the...accuracy of the content" is RIDICULOUS.
Why put it out if it's not accurate? Oh, right...money grab b.s. Ok, Rock 'n' Roll TMZ...🙄
P.S.--Scott Weiland was a POSER.
Correction: They were NOT successful in the early 2000’s. The Shangri La album from 2001 flopped and only went gold. They tried to push days of the week as a single but it went nowhere.
Mustaine still taking credit for things he had nothing to do with.