Velvet Revolver How The Band Fell To Pieces & Fired Scott Weiland - Slash, Duff, Matt Sorum

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  • Velvet Revolver Was One of the Most Hyped Supergroup's of the 2000's and they quickly crashed and burned after only half a decade and two albums including 2004's Contraband and 2007's Libertad.
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:32 - Formation of Velvet Revolver
    2:26 - Hiring Scott Weiland
    2:59 - Recording of Contraband/Tour
    5:59 - Recording of Libertad
    9:33 - Scott Weiland's Final Gigs
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    The origins of the supergroup velvet revolver began with drummer Randy Castillo who played with Ozzy Osbourne, Lita Ford and Motley Crue among many others. It would be his passing in the early 2000’s that brought one half of Guns N’ Roses and one part of Stone Temple Pilots together with mixed results. Velvet Revolver went from being one of the most highly anticipated bands of the 2000’s to imploding on stage half a decade after their formation. This is the story of Velvet Revolver.
    Former Guns N’ Roses and the Cult drummer Matt Sorum was close friends with drummer Randy Castillo. Sorum would reveal in his autobiography that he was initially offered the job to fill in for Tommy lee following his departure from motley Crue in the late 90’s. It was around this time that Sorum’s old band the cult reunited. Sorum would turn down the offer instead suggesting Castillo for the job. Castillo would play with Motley Crue on one record, but struggled with health issues dealing with cancer until his death in 2002.
    Sorum would organize a benefit show with his former Guns N’ Roses bandmates Slash and Duff McKaganin in addition to Stevne Tyler, and Buck Cherry members Josh Todd and Keith Nelson
    Sorum would recall how electric the gig was and how the next morning he got calls from Slash and Duf saying they should form a band with the guys from Buck Cherry. Within a few weeks Slash walked away from the band saying he was out. He would tell Sorum he couldn’t work with Josh Todd, but Slash according to Sorum wasn’t the type of guy who could fire people so the drummer fired the singer and the group became a quartet.Soon afterwards Slash couldn’t work with Keith Nelson claiming the guitarist just doubled whatever he was playing so Sorum fired him too. . Accoding to Slash’s 2007 book he would reveal the reason he couldn’t work with Josh Todd revealing “Josh’s voice was just too linear and grating, it was a distraction from the music, not to mention just a tad off-key.”
    Soon enough former Guns N’ Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin joined his old bandmates to write some songs. Aaccording to Slash’s book, izzy suggested the band be a quartet with him and Duff handling vocal duties and playing just some clubs in a van tour. The band didn’t entertain the idea and soon enough Izzy split. Duff would suggest a friend of his and high school mate of Slash Dave Kushner to be band’s rhythm guitarist. All they needed now was a singer.
    The band would put out ads in music magazines and on radio holding open auditions for a singers for their unnamed project. It would take the band almost a year before they settled on a singer. Some high profile names were thrown around to join the band including Sebastian Bach, Ian Asbtury and Steve Jones. It would turn that Stone Temple Pilots broke up in 2003 and frontman Scott Weiland was suddenly free. Duff McKagan who knew scott suggested the singer and had him come audition for the band. The band would record their first song with Weiland called Set Me Free. The band’s manager got them a licensing deal with the Hulk movie in 2003 for a whopping $1.6 million. While the band was off to a good start they still didn’t have a name. They would throw around a couple ideas including Revolver, Dead Velvet Revolver before settling on Velvet Revolver. The band would be the subject of a bidding war between labels before signing with Clive Davis’ RCA Records for a whopping 8.5 million dollars for 3 albums.
    In what should have been foreshadowing of what was to come Scott Weiland seemed like a problem from the beginning. Not helping things were the egos, bad management and lack of communication between the band members. At the band’s showcase for the movie producers of the Hulk, Weiland showed up over an hour late under the influence, but still performed well enough to get a movie deal. When the band sat down to review their 8.5 million dollar contract offer Scott showed up last at the band’s rehearsal studio wearing a pin stripe suit with no shoes and a giant gash on his forehead according to Sorum’s book. Weiland would tell his bandmates that he got the gash on his head fro

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  • @rnrtruestories
    @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому +132

    Here’s a story on the time Axl nearly beat up slash on stage ua-cam.com/video/Hb98ZpYRzOk/v-deo.htmlsi=gxbUQXkJ9brn4y1n

    • @moreblack
      @moreblack 3 роки тому +2

      Looking forward to those, have you done, or do you have any plans to do one on Slash going solo and getting together with Myles and the Conspirators?

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому +3

      @@moreblack I did talk about slashs first solo album a few weeks ago but I’m sure I’ll cover slash and the conspirators at some pointn

    • @moreblack
      @moreblack 3 роки тому +2

      @@rnrtruestories Thanks for the heads up, I'll look for that one.

    • @duanesorgel7369
      @duanesorgel7369 3 роки тому +1

      I would love it if you did an in depth story on the reason why Richie Sambora left Bon Jovi. I’m a massive Richie fan and I feel we don’t have the true reason why he left. Cheers.

    • @musicalmusic3353
      @musicalmusic3353 3 роки тому +3

      I’m really looking forward to it!!!! I love your videos!!!! Happy holidays!!!!

  • @christyler6920
    @christyler6920 3 роки тому +1013

    Seems like a small oversight not to have mentioned that Scott Weiland is in fact dead and that might be a major factor in them not being able to reunite.

    • @milesgentry850
      @milesgentry850 3 роки тому +30

      SAD TOO..GENIUS HE WAS HEROIN WAS HIS BANE!😪

    • @twointhepinkoneinthestink
      @twointhepinkoneinthestink 3 роки тому +3

      10/10

    • @valeriequiett
      @valeriequiett 3 роки тому +7

      An again Scott fell under sadly

    • @gypsydonovan
      @gypsydonovan 3 роки тому +20

      @Johnny Dong proof of what? That he died? Wth are you talking about?

    • @stormedcapone
      @stormedcapone 3 роки тому +7

      I doubt they would've reunited long term. Slash made it pretty clear he didn't want to work with weiland pretty clear. They mightve done one offs

  • @zmbdog
    @zmbdog 3 роки тому +421

    So they hired a singer known for frequent drug relapses and he went on to relapse frequently? Wow, of all the possible outcomes.

    • @ryankibler7973
      @ryankibler7973 3 роки тому +16

      One that is half the size he was in the 90s. Just looking at him you knew what was up! I saw them live though and my God, high frontmen are the best frontmen

    • @MisterBacca
      @MisterBacca 3 роки тому +5

      Hahahahahahaha well said.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk 3 роки тому +3

      Shocked Pikachu.jpg

    • @susilabello5371
      @susilabello5371 3 роки тому +10

      Well, that's Rock n Roll ... but they couldn't have gotten a better lead singer ... Scott

    • @susilabello5371
      @susilabello5371 3 роки тому +3

      @Sand Hanitizer yeah, I agree. The Stones were their absolute Best while Keith was using dope -> sticky fingers & exile on mainstreet .... absolutely fabulous! I know, sorry - different band.

  • @brianphillips9152
    @brianphillips9152 7 місяців тому +33

    When you hear the back story on these bands it is a miracle that they can record a cohesive album and complete a tour.

    • @tattooninja
      @tattooninja 7 місяців тому

      Bunch of nasty old junkies

    • @joshhernandez6974
      @joshhernandez6974 20 днів тому

      The worst thing that can happen to a drug addict is fame and money 🤷

  • @russellshaffer6050
    @russellshaffer6050 3 роки тому +254

    A little awkward when you say that the band is dead without acknowledging the fact that Weiland himself is, well, dead

    • @C0LDM1LK
      @C0LDM1LK 3 роки тому +3

      I know right!

    • @hugolafhugolaf
      @hugolafhugolaf 3 роки тому

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    • @him050
      @him050 3 роки тому +1

      Well in fairness he was fired from the band

    • @maverickdsouza4008
      @maverickdsouza4008 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah Weiland fell to pieces :(

    • @russellhobbs7245
      @russellhobbs7245 3 роки тому

      @Your Neighbor That's your opinion. Plenty of people would disagree. Was the opening band the band that was full of chicks? If so I have to say they were pretty kick ass from what I remember

  • @ThatOtherRaccoon
    @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 роки тому +153

    I see what you did there. The band "Fell To Pieces".

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 роки тому

      @Christopher Bingham so it takes one to point it out then?

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 роки тому

      @Christopher Bingham but what about pointing out that it didn't need to be pointed out then? What level of genius does that take?

    • @OH_MY_DOGGG
      @OH_MY_DOGGG 3 роки тому +1

      I see, as well.

    • @tieukhavu8832
      @tieukhavu8832 3 роки тому

      Pun intended

    • @supersierra70
      @supersierra70 3 роки тому +2

      Captain obvious just called... lol

  • @stephenworldwide
    @stephenworldwide 3 роки тому +152

    It's too bad about Weiland. He was such a good singer.

    • @kimmcintosh3449
      @kimmcintosh3449 3 роки тому +8

      Unfortunately he had LSD lead singers disease heroin and rock and roll don't go together

    • @analystzorncasteel3047
      @analystzorncasteel3047 3 роки тому +10

      Umm he was moderately ok. Had a vocal range of about a 1/2 an octave, and didn't really have more than one tone, he sang in. .. Slash picked him to assure he (Slash) would be the star of the band.

    • @jahread3322
      @jahread3322 3 роки тому +5

      he was the beginning of all those singers that copped layne staley and jerry cantrells vocals...weiland at least didnt suck and stp sound can stand on its own but goddamn if weiland didn’t open the door for so many shitty fucking bands with cheezier and cheezier aic rip-off vocals...creed anyone

    • @analystzorncasteel3047
      @analystzorncasteel3047 3 роки тому +3

      @@jahread3322 I still like the first STP cd ... 👍

    • @drumgk
      @drumgk 2 роки тому +13

      He was a great vocalist and songwriter. He wrote and co-wrote some of rocks greatest songs ever. Too bad the drugs and alcohol took him away.

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 10 місяців тому +19

    Velvet Revolver's first album Contraband was a damn fine effort that holds up well today, but I knew from the beginning that there was no way the supergroup would last.

  • @lloydonlead
    @lloydonlead 3 роки тому +27

    It's amazing to me that any band can stay together. Especially with the egos and the drugs.

  • @Guitar387
    @Guitar387 3 роки тому +115

    I saw them live a few shows before they split up in England in Brighton. I remember Duff looking miserable on stage and Scott didn’t interact or even look at the other band members once. He also didn’t interact with the crowed , he basically sung songs one after another and left the stage. I remember duff looked like he didn’t want to be there.

    • @russellhobbs7245
      @russellhobbs7245 3 роки тому +9

      Probably because when they went to Birmingham Scott stood with one foot on the stage and the other on the barrier leant over the crowd and someone yanked his chain round his neck. I don't think they got it but it shook him. Slash had a good old chuckle to himself while watching it unfold much to my amusement as most of the crowd had heard what happened around 3/4 nights earlier in Glasgow and gave a huge cheer as he struggled to keep his balance. I think after that he knew pretty much all their audience were against him which was a shame for the fans after that because that may have been the last performance he did actually put some energy into

    • @t800rja4
      @t800rja4 2 роки тому +10

      I was at the Glasgow gig. I remember they were playing then Scott just announced "this is the last time you will ever see Velvet Revolver". I just stood there thinking did I just hear that? Duff clearly thought the same as he just started looking at Slash and Dave like wtf!

    • @Nirvana388
      @Nirvana388 2 роки тому +8

      The one time I saw STP shortly after this Scott behaved exactly the same was definitely there for the money and not the music or fans it was sadly obvious.

    • @davidmaida6453
      @davidmaida6453 2 роки тому +8

      The one and only time I got to see STP live was at Kattfest 08. Crowd went apeshit when they got on stage, Weiland was feeding off the crowd and gave an incredible performance. A fan also rushed the stage and Scott told them to let him go, the guy got down on his knees and was crying about how big a fan he was, they then stood him up, the band gathered around him and told the audience this is what it's all about.

    • @musicfinder3178
      @musicfinder3178 2 роки тому +8

      That’s interesting, I’d like to mention that I saw them perform once in New York during their Contraband tour. It was a great show, Weiland had his megaphone and actually walked up and down the bleachers including up to the 300s section as he was singing a song. I don’t even recall there being security and it just seemed like a spur of the moment type of thing. So I’d just like to add that if he stopped putting on great shows, he wasn’t ALWAYS like that.

  • @LaGrungeMusic
    @LaGrungeMusic 3 роки тому +71

    I love your respect for Rock Journalism providing alternate perspectives in the same story thank you

  • @missmarina_xo
    @missmarina_xo 3 роки тому +66

    It’s very sad how much Scott’s addiction took him over. He’ll always be one of my favorites though 💕

    • @perfect_sunrise9046
      @perfect_sunrise9046 Рік тому

      All your idols are degenerates

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 10 місяців тому +4

      That's addiction and it knows no bounds and can (and does) affect those from Every walk of life!.. It's sad Scott was never able to sober up or really get much clean time and even when he claimed to be clean, he really only meant he was clean from "heroin" and in fact did break his addiction to dope, but replaced it with the other substances that ultimately killed him and this is more common than most realize.. Many addicts jump from one substance to another and often justify this behavior!. Sadly, no amount of help can help someone that doesn't want to be helped and unfortunately (statistically) most addicts Never achieve long-term sobriety and or end up dying (in some manner) due to their addiction!.

  • @gayjustinbieber6225
    @gayjustinbieber6225 3 роки тому +163

    Fall to Pieces is a bloody masterpiece

    • @sean8470
      @sean8470 Рік тому +6

      that solo i believe is slash's finest

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 10 місяців тому +10

      Great song, with a great video and a powerful message!. VR was truly a great band and Scott a tremendous talent that sadly could never get a handle on his demons!..

    • @HavendaleBlvd80
      @HavendaleBlvd80 6 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely.

    • @toddlavigne6441
      @toddlavigne6441 6 місяців тому

      good solid song...masterpiece ? that's a matter of opinion.

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 2 місяці тому

      HiCheck out the late night TV appearance of that song.
      I think it was Leno..EPIC

  • @KingDaveth
    @KingDaveth 3 роки тому +44

    Lmao!
    "I hated Axl because he was controlling and his ego got in the way...I don't like this singer...Matt fire him..."

  • @stevewest5397
    @stevewest5397 3 роки тому +100

    Considering the problems they all had, this ending was pretty much inevitable.

    • @seizethedayandlive
      @seizethedayandlive 2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely! I'd be surprised if they didn't break up!

  • @tomdeters735
    @tomdeters735 3 роки тому +106

    It would've been neat if Izzys idea of a quartet came to fruition

  • @lhart99
    @lhart99 3 роки тому +80

    They were a great fucking band, and one of my favorites. Too bad they didn't last long, but at least they leave behind some great music.

  • @LuisGarcia-cb7ez
    @LuisGarcia-cb7ez 3 роки тому +113

    Matt:cocaine
    Duff: xanax and wine
    Slash:ego and his defibrillator
    Scott: professional squash player on heroin lol

    • @ucfkid67
      @ucfkid67 3 роки тому +5

      And I guess kushner gets high on warm Pepsi?? Lol

    • @Underland76
      @Underland76 3 роки тому +7

      @@ucfkid67 warm Pepsi isn't that bad

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser 3 роки тому +3

      @@Underland76 yep, I like it.

  • @grumpyoldgirl8582
    @grumpyoldgirl8582 2 роки тому +8

    I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott decided, unbeknownst to his band mates, that this was going to be their last gig. They all looked on in amazement. They went off stage for about 20 minutes, then came back on to finish the gig. It was an interesting night.

  • @rowstone3019
    @rowstone3019 2 роки тому +19

    Great video. I was 18 in 1988. I started with Guns and Roses. Guns was incredible. When Stone Temple came out, I loved them. I liked Grunge. I didn't see STP as full grunge like Nirvana. Anyway, these are the guys I listened too thru out my life. There are like my extended family.

    • @llanoanimals
      @llanoanimals 2 місяці тому

      I too was 18 in 1988 and GNR will always be my favorite band. Loved Velvet Revolver as well.

  • @seetherbridge3
    @seetherbridge3 3 роки тому +14

    I love how you totally skipped the fact that Wieland died whilst on tour with his band not long after.. that is probably the biggest reason for VR not getting back together...

  • @ShoOKitssho_time
    @ShoOKitssho_time 3 роки тому +32

    You know, while all of them are still alive, I hope Matt Sorum calls Axl, Slash, and Duff (in that order) and make a peace. Sammy Hagar called Eddie before this year happened. They even had a kitchen sink tour sorted. I don't think Sammy would have felt good about himself if he didn't contact Eddie. A grudge is the last thing you wanna take to the grave.

  • @Clay_Scar
    @Clay_Scar 3 роки тому +16

    Still enjoy their music regularly. Cool time for rock n roll and their interpretation had great energy

  • @asinthedaysofnoahandlot4632
    @asinthedaysofnoahandlot4632 3 роки тому +13

    Glad I saw them live in 2005. What a show with atmosphere and so many encores. The energy of the entire band was mind blowing

  • @pricey6177
    @pricey6177 3 роки тому +10

    VR was one of the best gigs I’ve been too, was absolutely electric. Scott was so good on stage.

  • @JasonSum1979
    @JasonSum1979 3 роки тому +73

    it’s incredible we even got two Albums from this “Super Group” I totally forgot they put out a second album (that debut is so good for what it is) But, at the same time you can just tell this band wasn’t going to last very long!

    • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
      @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 2 роки тому +4

      Libertad is great

    • @JasonSum1979
      @JasonSum1979 2 роки тому

      @@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Thx I'll have to get my hands on it (either i forgot there was a follow up Velvet Revolver album or something don't remember much hype behind the second album......

    • @ict113090
      @ict113090 2 роки тому +5

      Their second album was actually very good. I just think by 2007 (year of its release) the industry wasn't interested in them and it got little to no promoting. The industry by that time was only interested in either emo bands, Coldplay or anyone trying to be like Coldplay.

    • @drivingwheel9101
      @drivingwheel9101 Рік тому

      @@ict113090 Libertad >Contraband

  • @johnnybrace
    @johnnybrace 5 місяців тому +4

    no matter what happened, Scott Weiland will always be one of my favorite frontmen

  • @42-Donuts
    @42-Donuts 3 роки тому +63

    I like both Contraband and Libertad.. Great rocknroll... RIP Scott. Now if only GnR would make some new music... wtf!

    • @techdeathhippie6319
      @techdeathhippie6319 3 роки тому +3

      1991 was last time we got a song written by axl and slash together . Fuck 1991

    • @Satr1ani
      @Satr1ani 3 роки тому

      Would be nice to see what they could conjure up. Though for the gnr sound and feel i think you do need at least Izzy also. Preferrably Steven as well. That not gonna happen

    • @bugsymalone5744
      @bugsymalone5744 3 роки тому

      As long as it's not the bombastic shit that's on Chinese Democracy

    • @dereklong3977
      @dereklong3977 3 роки тому +2

      According to interviews with Slash from the beginning of the year they are writing new music with Axl & Duff. It’s gonna come, be patient.

    • @42-Donuts
      @42-Donuts 3 роки тому

      @@dereklong3977 i'm sure they are writing music all the time, thats what they do... the big issue seems to actually release it..

  • @GaryPhelpsII
    @GaryPhelpsII 2 роки тому +14

    God, those were two great albums; I really miss Weiland.

  • @Megadeth6633
    @Megadeth6633 2 роки тому +17

    This band was amazing at the time, it was probably the most exciting thing in rock n roll when they came out with that headbanging sound. Good times

    • @archangel5627
      @archangel5627 2 роки тому +4

      I completely agree with you. Before the first Velvet Revolver album came out, I remember reading about how Slash, Duff, and Matt Sorum were getting together to create a new band with the Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots. I was so excited because at the time, this was basically a modern take on Guns N Roses. Needless to say I was a huge GNR fan and like so many other people, I had grown tired of Axel Roses antics and tired of waiting for his version of a new Guns N Roses album to come out. Personally, I think Velvet Revolver’s first album is more GNR than anything Axel has done since Guns broke up back in the early 90s. It’s a shame they only made two albums while Scott Weiland was still alive. I would’ve loved to hear some new music by Velvet Revolver but it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we have two records along with some great live performances. I still listen to Velvet on a semi regular basis and I’ll always remember how cool they were.

  • @nidgeontour257
    @nidgeontour257 3 роки тому +9

    The last gig VR did in London was at Brixton academy where I worked. I walked Scott and Slash to their cars. They were both very nice to me and Scott laughed at a joke I made when we were walking together. RIP Scott. Long live Slash!

    • @ixa-3140
      @ixa-3140 3 роки тому +2

      If you really made him laugh thank you, he went through hell. Never met him but I got love for the man. Hope his family is well.

    • @nidgeontour257
      @nidgeontour257 3 роки тому +1

      @@ixa-3140 A tortured soul but very talented! x

  • @125935
    @125935 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome piece - thank you for taking the time to put it out.
    I absolutely loved Weiland and it was sad to see his demise to heroin. Every band he was in was plagued with the addiction.
    😢

    • @celestenelson6375
      @celestenelson6375 2 місяці тому

      I Loved Scott as well. He was such an amazing, transformational artist. So sad. 😢

  • @sonicheadfuck
    @sonicheadfuck 3 роки тому +10

    I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott announced he was done. Shocking stuff, but WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT! He was on fire. I felt a bit sad for Matt at the end of the video. He's such a good drummer and I want to hear him do more.

  • @DrScott666
    @DrScott666 8 місяців тому +4

    I saw Velvet Revolver at a secret night club just before their first record came out... EASILY ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS IVE EVER BEEN TOO!

  • @Csnich96
    @Csnich96 3 роки тому +1

    Underrated channel. Deserves more subs

  • @gagewendland4315
    @gagewendland4315 3 роки тому

    Your videos have gotten so good.

  • @caledunsmore
    @caledunsmore 8 місяців тому +3

    Saw Velvet Revolver live in Sydney. I was so stoked as a Guns N Roses and Stone Temple Pilots fan. It was a great gig. They even did 2 Guns covers
    Mr Brownstone and It's So Easy. It was a perfect blend of the 2 bands. I was in College and it was one of my first big Concert and absolutely loved it. Slash even did a solo piece and I was like 5 metres away.
    Contraband is a damn good album

  • @ozzyozcorn
    @ozzyozcorn 3 роки тому +8

    I love scott and velvet revolver so much.... Scott's son sounds so much like him it would be awesome to see him see a few of Scott's songs

  • @josezerpa8177
    @josezerpa8177 6 місяців тому

    Great video bro! I saw velvet sometime in 2004 in Cologne, Germany. It was the probably the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. Later on I saw Weiland again in Calgary in 2012 with STP. I consider myself very fortunate to have seen these two iconic bands! RIP Scott

  • @peterlightning9235
    @peterlightning9235 3 роки тому +13

    I was really excited about Velvet Revolver when they formed. I knew they were likely fucked if they were going to rely on Scott Weiland. But, people change as they grow older, so I was hoping it was going to work out. No, it did not.

  • @JaQuicker
    @JaQuicker 3 роки тому +24

    Really wish Izzy would get back in the mix

  • @surfsup5757
    @surfsup5757 2 роки тому +4

    I saw Velvet Revolver at House Of Blues in Myrtle Beach and they slayed the place. Best show I've seen there along with STP. Weiland knew how to work a crowd into a frenzy. And with Slash and Duff beside him, for a brief time, they were one of the greats.

  • @GarrettLoganGriffin
    @GarrettLoganGriffin 3 місяці тому +2

    I had the pleasure of seeing VR in Dallas on the Libertad tour in ‘07 or ‘08. No opener. The guys just came out and crushed for 2 and a half hours. They played almost every song from Contraband and Libertad, 6-7 Guns ‘N Roses songs, 6-7 STP songs, and a couple Pink Floyd covers. One of the best concert experiences I ever had. I’m grateful to have been there for that. I’ll remember it forever.

  • @mcmagiccracker
    @mcmagiccracker 3 роки тому +2

    Video production is great, Sydd.

  • @MynameisMikeee
    @MynameisMikeee 3 роки тому +45

    I remember there being a bunch of rumors that Corey Taylor was going to join the band after Scott left... Not a clue if any of it was true but it would have been awesome.

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому +23

      Yup they even recorded material but slash said it was too heavy

    • @caseywilson7768
      @caseywilson7768 3 роки тому +10

      Taylor is the most overrated front man in the history of rock and that is quite an acomplishment

    • @MynameisMikeee
      @MynameisMikeee 3 роки тому +1

      @@rnrtruestories ah okay. Never knew why it didn’t work out. Thanks bud.

    • @arcticmonkey3
      @arcticmonkey3 3 роки тому

      @Benjamin S that’s cool man but you’re right, not a lot of people are gonna side with your view

    • @cosmicbro1973
      @cosmicbro1973 3 роки тому +1

      Rock N' Roll True Stories DAMN IT SLASH that would have been amazing

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 3 роки тому +7

    It's cool to hear Axl singing VR tunes with GnR

  • @vlcthefish
    @vlcthefish 3 роки тому +42

    Mike Patton was asked to try out and he was like "fuck that"

    • @catjudo1
      @catjudo1 3 роки тому +24

      No Faith in the band, I guess...

    • @Croot_Music
      @Croot_Music 3 роки тому +15

      If you’ve listened to anything Mike Patton has done outside of faith no more this shouldn’t surprise anyone

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 3 роки тому +5

      @@Croot_Music Pretty much and especially if you consider the timing that would have been asking Mike in 2002 when he was at the height of his post FNM experimental phase. I just remember at the time Mike wouldn't even entertain doing a FNM reunion back then like it was beneath him let alone getting together with exGNR members. Mike has mellowed out a lot later on but I would have loved to hear Mike's laughter when hearing that offer in '02

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 3 роки тому +7

      Actually just found an interview with Mike talking about it back in 2003. Yep it's exactly how i would picture Mike thinking about it. Everything from laughing at the idea of the Velvet Revolver to joking about Weiland oding from cocaine
      Tell me about being approached by ‘The Project’?
      Mike Patton: “Sorry?
      The new band Slash and the other ex-Guns’N’Roses guys are putting together.
      Mike Patton: “Did you just call it ‘The Project’?
      That’s what they are calling it.
      Mike Patton: “HAHAHAHA. That’s hilarious. It sounds much better than I’m sure it is. Er, well, I wasn’t really approached. I just got a phonecall from an ex-manager asking if I would be interested. Well, I wasn’t and that was about it. Not very exciting.
      Why weren’t you interested?
      Mike Patton: “Why do you think? You know. I think everyone else knows too, except them. Which is the funny part.
      I hear they are now doing stuff with Scott Weiland.
      Mike Patton: “I thought he was dead.
      No, he’s alive. He’s just been arrested for cocaine possession again.
      Mike Patton: “OK. Well this band will kill him off and do the world a favour.
      bbs.bunglefever.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=49178

    • @ripdimebag666cfh
      @ripdimebag666cfh 3 роки тому +6

      That’s because he’s too good to be in Velvet Revolver.

  • @baxatakbaxatak2014
    @baxatakbaxatak2014 6 місяців тому +3

    One of the greatest names for a band ever. And one of the greatest debut albums.

  • @mikebaldwin2549
    @mikebaldwin2549 3 роки тому +13

    One of the most talented bands a true supergroup of egos and drug addiction

  • @tijuanaiguana190
    @tijuanaiguana190 3 роки тому +15

    Lmao at the rhyming at 5:55 "he was off the wagan, in addition to duff mccagan"

  • @Koldfusion234
    @Koldfusion234 3 роки тому +55

    The VR era was honestly the last time Weiland was any good, and even then, his time in VR was not nearly as good as the work he did with STP in the 90s, even though Contraband was indeed a solid album. By the time Libertad came out, Weiland’s on-stage persona had become weird and honestly a little creepy. And he didn’t sound nearly as good live as he did in studio. His drug use really turned him into a shell of his former self.

    • @WhyTheHorseface
      @WhyTheHorseface 3 роки тому +10

      The 2010 STP record was great. That reunion started strong.

    • @kimbaldo3292
      @kimbaldo3292 3 роки тому +17

      As an ex heroin addict I know first hand how much that drug kills your creativity and ambition, I'm a musician as well and I didn't give two fucks about music when I was using, it's all about the next high! I'm never going back to that life! RIP Scott

    • @WhyTheHorseface
      @WhyTheHorseface 3 роки тому +3

      @@kimbaldo3292 your story is contradicted by hundreds of legendary musicians who were heroin addicts going back nearly 100 years.

    • @kimbaldo3292
      @kimbaldo3292 3 роки тому +24

      @@WhyTheHorseface the creativity existed in all those people long before drugs, anyone who claims the drugs made them more creative is a junkie in denial!

    • @MusiciansIgnite
      @MusiciansIgnite 3 роки тому +7

      @@kimbaldo3292 amen. Charlie Parker even eventually told a peer in the 50’s that it didn’t help. Those people like Kim said were insanely created and felt they needed the drugs for creativity when it destroyed any creativity they actually naturally had.

  • @zer0deaths862
    @zer0deaths862 2 роки тому +8

    I saw Velvet Revolver live in Washington in early September of 2007 with Alice in Chains opening up for them, that was a fantastic show, Alice in Chains was great and Scott was well on point and was singing perfectly. I knew he had to have been on drugs at that very moment. It was an odd feeling enjoying the music after that, bittersweet.

  • @mightygahdo4719
    @mightygahdo4719 3 роки тому +19

    Velvet Revolver extended scott life by a few years.

  • @warrenwebb8172
    @warrenwebb8172 3 роки тому +4

    Last summer you said you were working on a Talk Show video. I hope it comes soon!

    • @flhxri
      @flhxri 3 роки тому +1

      And army of anyone

  • @vlcthefish
    @vlcthefish 3 роки тому +34

    God the politics and fighting that goes on in bands is sad.

    • @TheRumbles13
      @TheRumbles13 3 роки тому +6

      Its people man, people in general. Look at 2020. Lol

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому +9

      @@TheRumbles13 yeah they are living the dream and can't get along

    • @sunshinesweetlove..8066
      @sunshinesweetlove..8066 3 роки тому +2

      They fight over money 💰

    • @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245
      @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 3 роки тому +1

      That's exactly why I don't write music anymore. I honestly don't think anyone deserves to listen to what I can come up with because money and politics would ruin it anyways. It's not worth it in my eyes to put effort into art that will end up in that terrible system. Besides, I don't think anyone wants to listen to lyrics that don't have anything to do with making money, talking about the opposite sex or other selfish/toxic behaviors

    • @schigeraXD
      @schigeraXD 2 роки тому

      @@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 damn that sucks to hear. I'd love to listen to some tunes you've made but, I don't blame you for not wanting to continue. Being a musician is probably my biggest dream but I worry of the same things you mentioned.

  • @daveyoung9218
    @daveyoung9218 3 роки тому +8

    I remember seeing them live in Manchester on their uk/euro tour of the first album. They were 2hrs late coming on stage, no doubt down to scott, but they were incredible once they did come on

  • @phillipb9328
    @phillipb9328 3 роки тому +8

    I forgot about set me free, great tune!

  • @jonescrusher1
    @jonescrusher1 3 роки тому +14

    lol when the wives start getting involved in the business affairs you're in desperate trouble. It's a minor miracle they produced anything.

    • @jimmyfreeman9133
      @jimmyfreeman9133 3 роки тому

      That's a stupid game that business people don't play.

  • @tdalb8985
    @tdalb8985 3 роки тому +21

    Weiland was great in STP, and great in Velvet Revolver.
    If he could've kept himself straight, there is no doubt he'd gone down in history as one of the best ever.
    But then, if Guns and Roses hadn't lost their way, they'd be the Rolling Stones of our Generation.
    Drugs and drink and Axel's ego.
    The Appetite for Destruction album, is something I played over and over.

    • @JoseBarahonaes
      @JoseBarahonaes 3 роки тому

      Just to think that they could be filling stadiums (gnr) just like MetallicA, U2, The Rolling Stones and other great bands still did not so long ago...

  • @perebernardo3829
    @perebernardo3829 3 роки тому +15

    That dangerous element was THE key element in every great rock n roll band...
    The beauty of the tragedy. The conflict. Fallen heroes.
    Rise and fall of the demigods and their final rise to eternity as legends.
    That's what we love and that's what we condemn.

    • @michaelsands442
      @michaelsands442 Рік тому

      Well said. Very well said

    • @justinsixx90
      @justinsixx90 7 місяців тому

      Woah that was deep, but accurate and great dude!

    • @johnconnor4136
      @johnconnor4136 7 місяців тому +1

      Hell yeah!! I'm stealing this for poetry class.

    • @tattooninja
      @tattooninja 7 місяців тому

      Durrrrr

  • @robpaxson4455
    @robpaxson4455 3 роки тому +4

    was lucky enough to see them in 2004...great show, did the best STP and GnR songs, plus Aerosmith's No More No More

  • @TheChristafershawn
    @TheChristafershawn 3 роки тому +13

    And then there was the little incident of overdose and death.

  • @georgearagon2546
    @georgearagon2546 4 місяці тому +2

    As much of a powerhouse as this group was. It wasn't much without Weiland. This band was the definition of "chemistry."

  • @mowrymurog
    @mowrymurog 3 роки тому +40

    Did you say he broke sobriety after his dog’s death?!

    • @jeffjunge7663
      @jeffjunge7663 3 роки тому +3

      That's what I heard as well

    • @hugolafhugolaf
      @hugolafhugolaf 3 роки тому +22

      @@jeffjunge7663 Valid reason, if there ever was one.

    • @jeffjunge7663
      @jeffjunge7663 3 роки тому +22

      I agree 100% It's heartbreaking to lose a good pet.

    • @daytonnielsen5268
      @daytonnielsen5268 3 роки тому +4

      I heard that too!! Made me smirk a little.

    • @thismothafuckasaid7304
      @thismothafuckasaid7304 2 роки тому +5

      Makes sense bc.. "My dog's happiness is genuine when I come home and he doesn't care what anyone else thinks of me"

  • @SeeBrake
    @SeeBrake 2 роки тому +4

    I remember seeing them in 2004 and 2005 and it was an amazing show. Saw them again at a KROQ fest on the tour to support Libertad and Scott broke his foot onstage and did the rest of it sitting on a barstool. You could tell the end was near with that group. I'm just thankful I got to see him 5x with STP when they reunited and he was great every time. RIP - wish I could see him perform again.

  • @rogerhage7392
    @rogerhage7392 3 роки тому +8

    Slither was my all time favorite song

  • @danialmr5960
    @danialmr5960 3 роки тому

    Solid content

  • @timtim-hf3ut
    @timtim-hf3ut 3 роки тому +10

    Great band and album. Fall to pieces is a classic song

  • @adamdavidsoddities8573
    @adamdavidsoddities8573 2 роки тому +9

    Wow Scott got alot of grace and many 2nd chances due to his high status. So sad he couldn't overcome his addiction and move on with a promising career with a new band.

    • @SpiritusMundi4EVER
      @SpiritusMundi4EVER Рік тому +2

      RIP 🙏

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 10 місяців тому +2

      That's addiction for you and the demons that most addicts struggle with

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins5552 3 роки тому

    Great information, the research work behind every video is very impressive. Is there an audioslave feature done already?

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому

      I did a few stories on audioslave but will do a deeper dive on the band

  • @cesarcristiangomezsoto7989
    @cesarcristiangomezsoto7989 3 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @steven13cody
    @steven13cody 3 роки тому +3

    Scott’s book discusses his time with VR, pretty cool perspective.

  • @matronthorn.official
    @matronthorn.official 3 роки тому +5

    The title of this video is my favorite "I see what you did there" occurrence this year

  • @The-Contractor
    @The-Contractor 2 місяці тому +1

    Sad when people of talent go down the dark road of substance abuse. It never fails to take them out and cut short their time of being a source of creativity.

  • @cemvural7245
    @cemvural7245 2 роки тому +9

    Wow, I really wish Izzy and Duff had the vocal duties and kept on creating amazing songs. Scott was pretty cool, but a quartet would have been very nostalgic and cool.

  • @V4Now
    @V4Now 3 роки тому +28

    Lesson, if you're gonna do any drug, just stick to sugar.
    Diabetes is more managable 👍🏾

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness 3 роки тому

    Finally some AIC content!

  • @thebooger_boy4002
    @thebooger_boy4002 3 роки тому

    Clever title, well done. 👍

  • @denisefreitas6727
    @denisefreitas6727 3 роки тому +11

    I miss Scott Weiland. Great singer!

    • @denisefreitas6727
      @denisefreitas6727 3 роки тому +1

      @@kazombie9784 True.

    • @jasonsager5180
      @jasonsager5180 2 роки тому +2

      Your right Denise they kick ass

    • @jasonsager5180
      @jasonsager5180 2 роки тому +1

      Nice to c a woman know good music the ones I know like hip hop or country nothing wrong with it but metal is where it is I like going to concerts but usually go alone all my buddies can’t go wives get on them lol

  • @emaheiwa8174
    @emaheiwa8174 3 роки тому +22

    I wish the 2nd album was as good as the first. Kinda sad

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 роки тому +10

      Yeah I liked the last fight and a few other tracks but I liked contraband a lot better

    • @Koldfusion234
      @Koldfusion234 3 роки тому +4

      Agreed. The lyrics on the 2nd album were, frankly, quite bland and not very deep. The album was carried by decent melodies and Slash’s guitar work

    • @DushyantsCHANNEL
      @DushyantsCHANNEL 3 роки тому +3

      About 60% filler, just like GnR

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 роки тому

      Hmm...I really thought that Libertad was better.

    • @Fakename70
      @Fakename70 3 роки тому

      But it wasn’t. It happens.

  • @SuperSneakySteve
    @SuperSneakySteve 8 місяців тому +1

    I just realized after many years that I've never seen Slash's eyes.

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr 2 роки тому

    I like this episode. Worthy of a subscribe click.

  • @erinwalker711
    @erinwalker711 3 роки тому +13

    "I Fall to Pieces " is the best Rock Ballad of the Aughts. Now,that Scott Weiland's dead, I get uncomfortable wachting the song's music video.

    • @juicepick7131
      @juicepick7131 3 роки тому +5

      Right? Prophetic.

    • @7ate992
      @7ate992 3 роки тому +2

      Lame, lazy song. Repeats the same lyrics too much

    • @erinwalker711
      @erinwalker711 3 роки тому

      @@7ate992 It's so heartbreaking because it is about addiction and Weiland lost his 20 year battle with it 5 years ago.

  • @MS-it9vv
    @MS-it9vv 3 роки тому +5

    I excitedly bought Contraband and listened to it for the first time while driving with a friend. When we were finished listening, he commented “it’s OK, it just doesn’t sound like they really found ‘their sound’ yet.” When Libertad came out, we listened to it together. His comment: “It sounds like music that was only 90% finished.”
    I hate to say it, because I liked all the musicians involved, but my friend was right. VR wasn’t really inspired music... it was more like a cash-in by some very talented musicians who just happened to connect for a couple years for a payday in their own journeys elsewhere.

  • @dwaynegreene152
    @dwaynegreene152 3 роки тому

    "How the band Fell to Pieces"
    I see what u did there. Nice video bud 👍

  • @richardkey4289
    @richardkey4289 3 роки тому +2

    What a frontman.one of a kind, a true rock ' n roller
    R I P. SW

  • @nikstar1313
    @nikstar1313 3 роки тому +5

    Matt Soren always looked like a 40 yo trying to look 20..

  • @earlyjenkins1670
    @earlyjenkins1670 3 роки тому +4

    Loved this very talented band.man they could have done so much more.saw them rock virgin festival at pimlico racetrack maryland.explosive hard driving rock.scott rip my brother.wish these guys would get Scott's son to pick up microphone and put out that material they were sitting on.the son is in band suspect 282 with slashes son and Robert t the bass player in Metallica son is also in that band.scotts son sounds just like him.come back guys for encore
    Maybe even get izzy stradlin also.

  • @rsmith02
    @rsmith02 3 роки тому

    Much better transition to your new title screen (actual video was interesting, too)

  • @philfrank5601
    @philfrank5601 3 роки тому

    The text at the end of the video is covered up by the upcoming video box...what does it say in the last few words?

  • @deepvoodoo
    @deepvoodoo 3 роки тому +3

    I first heard of Slash because he played on some of MJ's records. It's hard to believe that of all the singers he's worked with, MJ falls more in the normal/professional category compared to SOOOOOME people.

  • @risboturbide9396
    @risboturbide9396 3 роки тому +4

    Scott Weiland is my hero. Thanx for your channel, maaaan

  • @sgrafx
    @sgrafx 7 місяців тому +1

    I bought and listened to that first album over and over. They were one of the last true rock bands.

  • @franticromantic5301
    @franticromantic5301 3 роки тому +2

    I had no idea that Weiland wasnt the full time lyricist on Contraband. That explains a great deal.

  • @The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage
    @The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage 3 роки тому +4

    It's crazy how many of the rock and metal musicians of the 90s are no longer with us.
    Many of the faces of grunge either died at the height of their careers, like Kurt, or died later like Scott and Chris.
    Pantera lost Dimebag and Vinnie.
    Type O Negative lost Peter Steele.
    I guess the 90s and 2000s were a darker time for musicians. Things seem to be a bit better now, with increased awareness of mental health and addiction.

    • @bullfrogpondshop3179
      @bullfrogpondshop3179 3 роки тому +1

      @Christopher Bingham look at the song lyrics and titles. Everything was "boo hoo, poor me, my life sucks, I'm sad." What a miserable music decade.
      Meanwhile, "ugly" was now "in": These people made the hippies look like personal hygiene experts. You had all the girls walking around in flannel shirts and combat boots (thaaaaat's attractive). That clown Marilyn Manson.
      The 80's was the party and the 90's was the hangover from hell.

    • @jimschwandt8089
      @jimschwandt8089 3 роки тому

      @Christopher Bingham Just an accident of fate, really. Plenty of musicians did drugs (regrettably) in both decades. Unfortunately, the majority of the fatalities came from the 90's. Musically speaking, I thought the 90's were tremendous. I've always felt they had the 80's beat hands down, at least if you're talking about rock as a music, and not the pop that passed for "rock" in the 80's. It's a pity that so much talent ended up leaving so soon. You hear so many people talk about not doing drugs - it makes you wonder when everyone's going to learn.

    • @johnbeckwith1361
      @johnbeckwith1361 3 роки тому +1

      Funny how artists of the 70'/ 80's died from joy and the artists of the 90's died from depression.

    • @bullfrogpondshop3179
      @bullfrogpondshop3179 3 роки тому

      @@johnbeckwith1361 Exactly my point

    • @jimschwandt8089
      @jimschwandt8089 3 роки тому

      @@johnbeckwith1361 Drugs never bring joy, only a false sense of it.

  • @dannydillon4144
    @dannydillon4144 2 роки тому +3

    Scott was so talented he should’ve had two bands in rock hall of fame but his drug addiction stopped that

  • @DylanInBaja
    @DylanInBaja 3 роки тому

    Im still listening to Contraband. Sounds as fresh as it did in 2004.

  • @vr112
    @vr112 7 місяців тому +2

    They made some damn good music for a short time

  • @matinuskathundrrphukk3233
    @matinuskathundrrphukk3233 Рік тому +2

    Scott was a great songwriter. His lyrics more obtuse darker and psychodelick than his grunge peers. All the great ones have a lot of heart, then they die and leave us scratching our heads.

    • @celestenelson6375
      @celestenelson6375 2 місяці тому

      Truth. He was powerful and beautiful.. he was on the top with only a few other great ones. So sad.

  • @raphaelcalado4335
    @raphaelcalado4335 2 роки тому +4

    I love Stone Temple Pilots and Guns and Roses, so Velvet Revolver was a no brainer to me.
    What epic band and despite its short duration they marked their name in history!
    Rest in Peace Scott, you are a legend!