I joined some RP groups back in my days on DeviantArt. And I think what Jay did was called "Godmodding". This is when you have control not only on your character, but also with the other character who roleplays with you. For example, when Jay threw her to the rock and proceeded to do dirty things to her before she responded if she's willing / consenting to be thrown to the rock and other things. This is a Big No NO, and is a red flag and is prohibited in most RP group because it caused discomfort and you supposed to control your character only, not others. So when you RP with other people, remember this and if they godmodded on you, you can explain about this godmodding thing and try to go on RP better next time, or you better run the other way. Just sharing what I know so if someone else is new to RP and have this going on with them they know that their character is being manipulated and it won't be fun for them if it continues.
I got two thoughts: Erp always will lead to real life.. and ffxiv needs a better block feature. You can't block people without interacting with them is ridiculous
@@celticlord88 lol I find this funny with the current Hideki Kamiya blocking twitter spread (because of the bayonetta 3 voice actress drama), that dude is very Japanese and he press the block button more than anyone.
@@Iceyicez While I agree, there is always a mix of variables in every region, we can never say "this whole region does not do this at all", when clearly some actually do.
It's really dumb how If you delete someone on your friends list as long as the other person still has you added on theirs they can see if you are online or not.
Its baffling how SE hasn’t fixed this yet. I haven't played long enough to have any bad experiences but its stuff like this that puts me off even bothering to socialize, just in case they send that dreaded “friend request” and potentially hound you forever if you accept.
I'm not even halfway through, and I don't mean to shame those who enjoy RP. You like what you like and that's cool. But just knowing the possible type of drama that is going to come from this before it even finishes has given me so much secondhand embarrassment already. Holy hell.
i agree and also because of how weird these rp stories get i feel the op's in these stories don't tell the whole story, not in a cherry picking way but in a way that makes them look good and innocent. there's some weird people out there for sure but you don't attract people in ff who make these moves towards you for absolutely zero reason
@@ochicore As I found out I was at least person three he has pulled this on of at least five, he seems to go after isolated individuals and doesn't take a NO for an answer. Classic Narcissist. There is a part two from spouse four up (Jay's Harem Heresy) and at least one more story in the works that has been submitted to Pathra. This and some things that happened IRL around the same time (late January 2022-Mid May 2022) is how I grew a spine and set hard boundaries with a few people. I was the type of person who tried to be nice to others and not make waves even if it meant I got the short end of the stick, after this I am pushing back.
It's not the rp. It's the feeling of power that gets this guy off. Not all rpers are like this but I have met my fair share of rpers who forget what real life is really like and indulge too much into their rp fantasies. It's cringey af and kinda sad tbh.
Dude sounds like a god moder. "You're now pregnant." I think maybe you should talk to the person ooc and roll a dice or flip a coin or something for that.
As an author, tabletop roleplayer and roleplayer in general it is really funny to me how people all over the game try to live out their power fantasies and sell it as RP. Despite it fitting the definition of RP, which is obviously playing a fictive role, this RP is far from what it was when it was still a niche hobby and the whole world thought we are just some crazy satanist cult that sits around a table summoning demons with dices. Most of these power roleplayers (players who create marry sue characters) don't care about character development, lore or logic in general. I can tell the OP of this story had no clue what a whitemage, lorewise, actually is. And why becoming a whitemage after "two months of hard training" is...well...it's like saying you became the world champion of XYZ after two months of training irl. But people will always reach for the top when they make their RP backstory and don't realise that they hurt only themselves in the long run cause it leaves no room for personal development and character growth. And while i would say that everyone should do what they have fun with i really hate the fact that people slowly see this crap at what RP actually is, it creates a stigma and stereotype that couldn't be farther from the true origin. And i fear with the clubbing scene now getting more attention this won't change in the future.
I so agree with you! And idk, but from what I gather from this story people like this seem to tend to godmod on their rp too, making their rp partner has no control whatsoever on their character and has no choice but to go their way -_-
at the time I knew little of the white mage lore as I was passive on reading the information while leveling a white mage with my friend. Since them I have done some digging in the lore when I can find the information, others I pull from my time as a Pathfinder/D&D player. I played her and continue to play her as a priestess and medic who still has her love of reading and cooks for a small army. She also loves making sure her friends are taking care of themselves
yeah I made it on there because who I was playing with at the time was on there then as I had IRL responsibilities I got left in the dust. The character in this story along with my two other characters are now happily on Mateus.
The title made me think of someone I was seeing sometime in 2019. I once was talking to this girl on my server, we'd hang out a lot in game for a few weeks before we started hanging out in voice in discord. And I swear to God, On the fourth gathering in voice chat, what was flirting turned into her "working on herself". Let's just say she has a sensitive mic and it captured a lot of audio. Her and what sounded like an assault on a opened and full mayonnaise jar. Some Balmung gals are something else. Lol
I used to love RP, but this sort of drama is very common. All I wanted to do was play my character like she was real; the relationships were just too much. Maybe I’ll send you a write-up of the stuff that’s happened to me recently. I really do wish there were no relationship RP groups. *Edit: I just heard the rest of the story (posted halfway through) and I really, really feel for the girl in this story. She lost control pretty early on and was manipulated - something that happens to people irl all the time, so it happens in games too. When you get a stalker who really knows how to use the Lodestone, like yours, deleting is truly the only way to get away from them. If you move them to another server and then move them back, they’ll pop up on the friends list again. *Big hugs to the OP* because getting away from controlling people is never easy.
thanks, luckily Leon in the story as well as my best friend Sky and a few others who are there. Also at my best friend's nudging after the continued stalking, I finally submitted a report to the GMs about him. I *DOUBT* they will do anything but he has had an account banned before for...STALKING AND HARASSMENT
For RP,you just need to have ppl who are competent and know how to set barriers. Unfortunately, ppl new to it or not fully understanding themselves can easily get caught up in different emotions. Set boundaries and if you actually start maybe gaining feelings for an actual person,stop the rp and have a mature convo. Figure out if its too much and will interfere with the rp and what you're really doing there.
So, as the irl husband here who did not leave her as stated. this was a wild ride to listen to. I'm only 12 minutes in and knew a few of these things (as of yesterday) so ....*munches popcorn* continue...
Just so you guys know you can block people without interacting with them you just need to be able to target their character. I believe the command is /blist add . You can also blacklist from contacts if youve partied with them recently
Thats a shame. I show comments like these a lot to the RP community and forums and it only feeds into the judgement. It's just like PVP, cases like these - and yes they DO need better mechanisms in place to block people - are far in the minority, and lots of the community feel quite judged for getting a bad rap wholesale for the actions of a tiny, tiny fraction.
I just want to decorate my house and play my black mage with my husband so NOT even interested in that type of weirdness and neither is my (real life) husband that plays. It helps to weed out potential problematic people because the MANY thirsty guys I come across that send me a random /tell don't want to even be friends with someone they can't have, let alone continue a conversation. It's like they play FFXIV to try and find a relationship and crush on people well out of their league.
I'am not into RP as I just can't disconnect from reality and can't pretend to be anyone else aside from a me. That said, This is extremely SPICY with him getting Busy with himself over imaginative characters! He needs both Real, Turf squares, and artificial carpet turf installed in floor STAT! xD
Well, the first step is to play yourself and then add in things that you wouldn't normally do and make a character out of it. I know what you mean though.
It is literally impossible to not leak drama into rp, it is freaking ridiculous nowadays cuz no one can differentiate their characters from real life. I almost lost my rp venue + discord because someone who grew a -little- too attached to me blew a fuse over a commission I got with my friend of our characters who are IC married. This wouldn't of mattered if the person was the venue co-owner, so he used his trust in the community to make people turn on me and my friends, or try to, even went as far as trying to organize a raid to get the server taken down when he was banned that ultimately failed. We already get enough nonsense since our venue is Lalafell staff and a shortstack-themed, please keep the drama out of my RP job so it doesn't feel as draining as a real life job tyvm. (and if there is drama keep it IC only).
Xenophobic: having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. I chose that word as it is a synonym to racist. My working title was the racist raen in gold tinfoil armor
And that my friends is one of the reasons why I only RP with my best friend XD I always wanted to try it with other people but damn those stories scare me too much to really try it XD Too much irl drama for me. Edit: Also would like to hear the side from one of the ex spouses. Would be interesting to hear their side of the story.
I know spouse number 4 (he was the one Jay tried to have sex with my character and he watched) and someone Jay tried to offer 50 bucks to build a Raen have submitted their stories.
Jay's Harem Heresy is spouse number 4's story and there is at least one other one incoming from someone he tried to offer 50 buck IRL to make a female Raen. The babies are part of her story as she found a nice Sky Pirate and eternally bonded. I am trying to encourage another former spouse who was in there and left before me to write up her story, but as she has stated before she just wants that part of her past to burn.
Yeah man. I stopped ERping tbh and have been lucky enough as of recently to find a group to write with in game - they got a big no sexual content thing going on. Which I’m not used to but it’s refreshing. But yeah - I stopped cause it almost always gets fucking weird. You know what - it only gets weird on 14. People have a tendency to try to live out some aspect that they are missing out on in reality - in the game. And those who do that roleplay wise - are usually the ones whom are causing all of this brain melting bullshit you see mostly.
I think that is what Jay's issue is. I didn't go much into his life (Spouse 4 does in his story) but Jay is using FF14 to deal with his own insecurity.
I do RP just hadn't done in MMOs before, sadly most of the my D&D or Pathfinder groups I was in were more combat oriented to the point of almost being a Munchkin game. In WoW I was more of a raider and my best friend who I was playing with in the beginning of the story and still do is more into the raid scene. He and I just bounce off D&D ideas for his campaigns. Hope that helps
For anyone who is interested, the other story of Jay (Part 2) is 'Jay's Harem Heresy' ua-cam.com/video/-_1TplPOQa8/v-deo.html
I wonder how much gil you can make in this game if you became a in game therapist.
You would be rich as hell
i'm honestly tempted to make one room into a therapist's office once i get a house xD
Billionaire
That would be amazing roleplay.
I made 1mil/h
I joined some RP groups back in my days on DeviantArt. And I think what Jay did was called "Godmodding". This is when you have control not only on your character, but also with the other character who roleplays with you. For example, when Jay threw her to the rock and proceeded to do dirty things to her before she responded if she's willing / consenting to be thrown to the rock and other things. This is a Big No NO, and is a red flag and is prohibited in most RP group because it caused discomfort and you supposed to control your character only, not others. So when you RP with other people, remember this and if they godmodded on you, you can explain about this godmodding thing and try to go on RP better next time, or you better run the other way. Just sharing what I know so if someone else is new to RP and have this going on with them they know that their character is being manipulated and it won't be fun for them if it continues.
Ohh so I was right when I said “where’s the consent?” I understand it better now also thanks for the explanation!
@@pathra Yeah, it's exactly that! And you're welcome, thank you for bringing this content too, I quite enjoy it and binge it today 😂
Just like my parents warned me, cant trade items or youll get someone preggnart
You mean pregananant?
CAN U GET, PREGANTE
I got two thoughts: Erp always will lead to real life.. and ffxiv needs a better block feature. You can't block people without interacting with them is ridiculous
Because devs says it's rude in Japan to block people
@@celticlord88 lol I find this funny with the current Hideki Kamiya blocking twitter spread (because of the bayonetta 3 voice actress drama), that dude is very Japanese and he press the block button more than anyone.
I agree with the better block system.
@@Siul_987 One person doesn't make up an entire region though. So nothing to find funny, you can find it contradicting, but even then, ok?
@@Iceyicez While I agree, there is always a mix of variables in every region, we can never say "this whole region does not do this at all", when clearly some actually do.
Somebody was stroking their salami on the Discord call yikes and gazooks
It's really dumb how If you delete someone on your friends list as long as the other person still has you added on theirs they can see if you are online or not.
Its baffling how SE hasn’t fixed this yet. I haven't played long enough to have any bad experiences but its stuff like this that puts me off even bothering to socialize, just in case they send that dreaded “friend request” and potentially hound you forever if you accept.
I'm not even halfway through, and I don't mean to shame those who enjoy RP. You like what you like and that's cool. But just knowing the possible type of drama that is going to come from this before it even finishes has given me so much secondhand embarrassment already. Holy hell.
i agree and also because of how weird these rp stories get i feel the op's in these stories don't tell the whole story, not in a cherry picking way but in a way that makes them look good and innocent. there's some weird people out there for sure but you don't attract people in ff who make these moves towards you for absolutely zero reason
@@ochicore As I found out I was at least person three he has pulled this on of at least five, he seems to go after isolated individuals and doesn't take a NO for an answer. Classic Narcissist. There is a part two from spouse four up (Jay's Harem Heresy) and at least one more story in the works that has been submitted to Pathra. This and some things that happened IRL around the same time (late January 2022-Mid May 2022) is how I grew a spine and set hard boundaries with a few people. I was the type of person who tried to be nice to others and not make waves even if it meant I got the short end of the stick, after this I am pushing back.
Balmung is involved …Why am I not surprised ??!!
It's not the rp. It's the feeling of power that gets this guy off. Not all rpers are like this but I have met my fair share of rpers who forget what real life is really like and indulge too much into their rp fantasies. It's cringey af and kinda sad tbh.
Dude sounds like a god moder. "You're now pregnant." I think maybe you should talk to the person ooc and roll a dice or flip a coin or something for that.
As an author, tabletop roleplayer and roleplayer in general it is really funny to me how people all over the game try to live out their power fantasies and sell it as RP. Despite it fitting the definition of RP, which is obviously playing a fictive role, this RP is far from what it was when it was still a niche hobby and the whole world thought we are just some crazy satanist cult that sits around a table summoning demons with dices.
Most of these power roleplayers (players who create marry sue characters) don't care about character development, lore or logic in general. I can tell the OP of this story had no clue what a whitemage, lorewise, actually is. And why becoming a whitemage after "two months of hard training" is...well...it's like saying you became the world champion of XYZ after two months of training irl. But people will always reach for the top when they make their RP backstory and don't realise that they hurt only themselves in the long run cause it leaves no room for personal development and character growth.
And while i would say that everyone should do what they have fun with i really hate the fact that people slowly see this crap at what RP actually is, it creates a stigma and stereotype that couldn't be farther from the true origin. And i fear with the clubbing scene now getting more attention this won't change in the future.
I so agree with you! And idk, but from what I gather from this story people like this seem to tend to godmod on their rp too, making their rp partner has no control whatsoever on their character and has no choice but to go their way -_-
Considering he had an alt named Merry Sue, this is him
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot Haha yeah, that too 😂
at the time I knew little of the white mage lore as I was passive on reading the information while leveling a white mage with my friend. Since them I have done some digging in the lore when I can find the information, others I pull from my time as a Pathfinder/D&D player. I played her and continue to play her as a priestess and medic who still has her love of reading and cooks for a small army. She also loves making sure her friends are taking care of themselves
What the flying fuck...
least dramatic balmung rp
Everyone in this story including the OP need to learn the difference between ic and ooc
Yeah, I mean all they need to do is add (( )). Hue.
I now believe Fandaniel did nothing wrong. >_<
I could never do RP, I would just feel way too awkward
"So I decided to make a character on Balmung..." 1st red flag right there😏
yeah I made it on there because who I was playing with at the time was on there then as I had IRL responsibilities I got left in the dust. The character in this story along with my two other characters are now happily on Mateus.
The title made me think of someone I was seeing sometime in 2019. I once was talking to this girl on my server, we'd hang out a lot in game for a few weeks before we started hanging out in voice in discord. And I swear to God, On the fourth gathering in voice chat, what was flirting turned into her "working on herself". Let's just say she has a sensitive mic and it captured a lot of audio. Her and what sounded like an assault on a opened and full mayonnaise jar.
Some Balmung gals are something else. Lol
Wow
AN ASSAULT ON A FULL AND OPENED MAYONNAISE JAR
Balmung egirls are built different
Yeah they could really improve the block or reporting system in the game.
I used to love RP, but this sort of drama is very common. All I wanted to do was play my character like she was real; the relationships were just too much. Maybe I’ll send you a write-up of the stuff that’s happened to me recently. I really do wish there were no relationship RP groups.
*Edit: I just heard the rest of the story (posted halfway through) and I really, really feel for the girl in this story. She lost control pretty early on and was manipulated - something that happens to people irl all the time, so it happens in games too.
When you get a stalker who really knows how to use the Lodestone, like yours, deleting is truly the only way to get away from them. If you move them to another server and then move them back, they’ll pop up on the friends list again.
*Big hugs to the OP* because getting away from controlling people is never easy.
thanks, luckily Leon in the story as well as my best friend Sky and a few others who are there. Also at my best friend's nudging after the continued stalking, I finally submitted a report to the GMs about him. I *DOUBT* they will do anything but he has had an account banned before for...STALKING AND HARASSMENT
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot lol
when you said mateus & balmung I was excited for a minute that this was a drama story involving former fc mates lol
For RP,you just need to have ppl who are competent and know how to set barriers. Unfortunately, ppl new to it or not fully understanding themselves can easily get caught up in different emotions. Set boundaries and if you actually start maybe gaining feelings for an actual person,stop the rp and have a mature convo. Figure out if its too much and will interfere with the rp and what you're really doing there.
So, as the irl husband here who did not leave her as stated. this was a wild ride to listen to. I'm only 12 minutes in and knew a few of these things (as of yesterday) so ....*munches popcorn* continue...
You left me in the dust in the game. As I was in Sastasha one night learning to tank my first dungeon and the next thing I know you were lv 80
Wait what? Your this persons irl husband? Did I read that correctly?
@@templar2094 the person in the story is not, no. I am though.
@@templar2094 we are legally separated but yes by letter still married. Last attorney I had a consult with wanted 3k retainer and 325/hr
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot are you the person who wrote this story?
What the actual fuck. Holy moly.
Just so you guys know you can block people without interacting with them you just need to be able to target their character. I believe the command is /blist add . You can also blacklist from contacts if youve partied with them recently
im fucking screaming what is this guy LMAOO
and no afaik most fight RP stuff on crystal is at venues?
@@bellamango6708 yea most of the pit fighting RP places are on Crystal
Always interested in going into RPing in FFXIV, then I hear stuff like this and I'm like.. "nope, not for me!"
Thats a shame. I show comments like these a lot to the RP community and forums and it only feeds into the judgement. It's just like PVP, cases like these - and yes they DO need better mechanisms in place to block people - are far in the minority, and lots of the community feel quite judged for getting a bad rap wholesale for the actions of a tiny, tiny fraction.
@@israelquiles9127 Tiny fraction? 90 percent of RP is ERP
As a roleplayer, would like to say this isn't normal, but when I look over st the Quicksand... I wonder. That's a dark place.
Ul'dah is the most wretched hive of scum and villainy, like Mos Eisley. They're both in the desert. ( :
This was... a really wild ride.
I’m not into rp at all but Jesus this story is certainly….something to say the lease
I just want to decorate my house and play my black mage with my husband so NOT even interested in that type of weirdness and neither is my (real life) husband that plays. It helps to weed out potential problematic people because the MANY thirsty guys I come across that send me a random /tell don't want to even be friends with someone they can't have, let alone continue a conversation. It's like they play FFXIV to try and find a relationship and crush on people well out of their league.
All I can say is Holy Hell.....🤣😂🤣😂
This has to be the weirdest one so far xD
RP’s like that creates todays psychos. Glad I have my solo FC and I don’t have to deal with this stuff. Lord
It's the psychos that do the type of rps. You got it backwards
@@purplepineapple7893 Yeah that too 😂
@@princessprincess0039 🤣
Jay got that Dawg in him
God i watch every single one of these just incase I know somone in these 🤣
18 minutes?! This will be juicy
Ngl just feels like everyone in this story is a complete and utter nut case lmao no one’s right or wrong just a complete mess
I'am not into RP as I just can't disconnect from reality and can't pretend to be anyone else aside from a me. That said, This is extremely SPICY with him getting Busy with himself over imaginative characters! He needs both Real, Turf squares, and artificial carpet turf installed in floor STAT! xD
Well, the first step is to play yourself and then add in things that you wouldn't normally do and make a character out of it. I know what you mean though.
Pathra's Rururuff @12:25 😆 🤣 😂
This is so bizarre...
The lion king female names were a nice touch!
Where would I submit a story? I have a LOOOOONG one
10:17 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh my... This was a crazy one!
It is literally impossible to not leak drama into rp, it is freaking ridiculous nowadays cuz no one can differentiate their characters from real life. I almost lost my rp venue + discord because someone who grew a -little- too attached to me blew a fuse over a commission I got with my friend of our characters who are IC married. This wouldn't of mattered if the person was the venue co-owner, so he used his trust in the community to make people turn on me and my friends, or try to, even went as far as trying to organize a raid to get the server taken down when he was banned that ultimately failed. We already get enough nonsense since our venue is Lalafell staff and a shortstack-themed, please keep the drama out of my RP job so it doesn't feel as draining as a real life job tyvm. (and if there is drama keep it IC only).
Xenophobic actualy means hating other spezies. For example elves hating dwarfes
Xenophobic: having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. I chose that word as it is a synonym to racist. My working title was the racist raen in gold tinfoil armor
And that my friends is one of the reasons why I only RP with my best friend XD I always wanted to try it with other people but damn those stories scare me too much to really try it XD Too much irl drama for me.
Edit: Also would like to hear the side from one of the ex spouses. Would be interesting to hear their side of the story.
I know spouse number 4 (he was the one Jay tried to have sex with my character and he watched) and someone Jay tried to offer 50 bucks to build a Raen have submitted their stories.
I'd get bored if I only roleplayed with one person.
Rp to this level is a form of delusion, even if it doesn’t end in a bad way or cause drama. idc who i piss off by saying this lol
bruh
The best bait of em all.. 🙃
💀💀💀
aw... Harem Heresy lose :(
I loved both!!!
@@pathra Dearest Pathra,
Why can't I follow you on Twitter? : D
@@Diandredofus I went through my follower requests so you should be following me now! :D
@@pathra I'm so flattered uwu
Wooooooooow. Good thing i play on Gilgamesh. :D
Rp is the hobby of the real basement dwellers
Thank you for making yourself known. I went ahead and captured this comment to post on the RP forums and FFXIV RP reddit channels. 👍
@@israelquiles9127 I think you're the basement dweller that he's talking about.
Chris Taylor is the biggest RP basement dweller
Wheres the baby? i need more! Jay's spouses please come forward!
Jay's Harem Heresy is spouse number 4's story and there is at least one other one incoming from someone he tried to offer 50 buck IRL to make a female Raen. The babies are part of her story as she found a nice Sky Pirate and eternally bonded. I am trying to encourage another former spouse who was in there and left before me to write up her story, but as she has stated before she just wants that part of her past to burn.
bruh what does OP mean??
Oh lord rp 😂
Yeah man. I stopped ERping tbh and have been lucky enough as of recently to find a group to write with in game - they got a big no sexual content thing going on. Which I’m not used to but it’s refreshing. But yeah - I stopped cause it almost always gets fucking weird. You know what - it only gets weird on 14.
People have a tendency to try to live out some aspect that they are missing out on in reality - in the game. And those who do that roleplay wise - are usually the ones whom are causing all of this brain melting bullshit you see mostly.
I think that is what Jay's issue is. I didn't go much into his life (Spouse 4 does in his story) but Jay is using FF14 to deal with his own insecurity.
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot yes he is I agree with you
so cringe, im dying, "im not rper but i erped",
this op also kinda trash people, no different from the dude she hangout with.
I do RP just hadn't done in MMOs before, sadly most of the my D&D or Pathfinder groups I was in were more combat oriented to the point of almost being a Munchkin game. In WoW I was more of a raider and my best friend who I was playing with in the beginning of the story and still do is more into the raid scene. He and I just bounce off D&D ideas for his campaigns. Hope that helps
wth is going on here 😆
Lost on this one. Might be the rp but I got lost on the story/ lost interest
Yea same. I was like ?.?
all of these RP stories are so cringe and this shits just funny and a bit sad
This is why I think Xiv is full of degenerates is all you see in major towns now
pathraLewd
O.o Wow. That’s all I have to say. xD
Are you like, pregnant?
these people are fucking weird....
Wtf is wrong with erpers?
Turn. Off. The. Game.
These RPers are on another level