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Short tutorial - sampling acoustic instrument and using multisamples for 4 velocity layers.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Piano from 1820
01:24 - Recording And Editing The Samples
02:39 - Assigning Samples To The Keygroups
04:01 - Setting Velocity Layers
04:36 - Setting The Amp Envelope
05:35 - Tuning The Samples
06:07 - Panning
06:33 - Keygroup VS Real Square Piano
07:02 - Applying Effects To The Keygroup
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Thank you for the support!
Impressive!!
@@daanbaas2962 Thanks for watching!
And you gave it to us?! You are an outstanding human being and a saint!
I hope you will enjoy the keygroup, despite horrible tuning , lol!
You're incredibly generous for offering this for free, I'd have happily paid for this. Thank you so much! I'd love to support you by buying chord packs or interesting keygroups or drum programs you put together in the future.
Thank you very much for the support! I'm not planning to do any comercial products for now, so it is all free! Watching and sharing my content is the best way to support my channel!
im sharing
Made a few manual acoustic instrument keygroups in the past and I feel your pain. Very nice of you to include the files! Sounds cool
Thanks for watching
Your dedication and patience are legendary. 🤘🏽
Thanks for a kind words!
Incredible piece of work. Thank you so much for sharing this.
My pleasure!
omg the work! - really GIVING to the community - thanks so much!
Thank you for your kind work!
What a great job, you did there...and Thanks for the nice samples!
Thank you kindly!
What a wonderful great job you did there. Enjoyed every second of your video. Thank you so much for this free keygroup, it opens so much new ideas.
Thanks for the kind words!
Thank you for creating and posting! It sounds great!
Thanks for watching!
Great video and keygroup! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Man thank you so much for this tutorial. It helped me immensely.
Glad to hear it!
Excellent tutorial and fantastic piano!
Many thanks!
You're such a gentleman ! Thank you for giving me the tools to improve my music 🙏🏼
My pleasure!
Thank you so much for all the Keygroups 🙏🏾🤟🏾
You're welcome!
Had to come back and edit my comment since i figured how to load it on my MPC One. Amazing sound - I found myself playing DanceMonkey with it and it sounded massive. Having the project template there to just load was magic too, I'll learn a lot from that....The rattles in D1 just show how authentic it really sounds. Amazing with my sony headphones. Hats off to you.
Thank you very much for the kind words! I'm sick of some of the commercial sample libraries, there every thing is do clean and perfect! So, I'm trying to make something a little different! BTW Dance Monkey must be sounding good on that keygroup!
Please tell me how you did it :( I can't make make it work
Thank you so much. I just got an MPC live and this keygroup will be the first to be added!
Fantastic!
Really appreciate your work Fam!
Appreciate that
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK
You are very welcome
Im just in love with your square piano multisample. I will use it with a jam 😍. Thanks for this hard work.
Glad you like it!
Dawg... This was absolutely amazing.
Thank you very much!
Best video ever. Thanks for the motivation you gave me. I was an old timer mpc user and i learned a lot from this one to feed my new mpc one :) 🙌🤝
Thank you very much! Your comment made my day, I spend so much time doing this video 🔥🙌😀
Very dope
Nice you have inspired me to do this with my drums!
I'm really glad my video inspired you! You will have a lot of fun, for sure!
Good Job Dude! !!!THX!!!
Thanks for watching!
That was alot of work. You deserve an award for such tideous work!!!!!
Yes it was! Now imagine how much work goes to any god sampled instrument product with 127 levels of velocity for each key, lol!
Thanks for this awesome work. Bravo!
Many thanks!
@@MusicianParadise Yesterday after watching the video I installed the keygroup in my MPC. It was "A MOMENT IN MY LIFE" play that sounds. Thank you again and keep on keepin' on!!!
@@alekamibeats wow, thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for the hard work. This is one of the things the Deluge does well, you can drop a folder of wavs into it and it will detect the notes automatically and assign them. But it doesn't do velocity layers, so the MPC is still better overall.
Deluge is an amazing devise, very forward thinking design! I think Akai's legacy holding them back a little on inovation. AKAI Force is actually a step in the right direction IMHO.
thanks for the history lesson
and download very appreciated
Thanks for the support!
Easiest subscription ever, thank you!
You're welcome!
I am in awe.
Thanks for watching!
You are a genius madmen Sir. Thank you respectfully for all the work.
You are very welcome!
🔥🔥🔥🔥 Awesome!!!
Thank you!
Grazie! Mi piace molto il tuo lavoro e anche la patch! Pensavo che con il mio dexibell s3 ero apposto con il piano, ma tu mi hai sorpreso, suona molto naturale!
Grazie per le gentili parole! Il Sampling è una scienza, impara sempre!
Thank you for the history of square piano. Subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Great content!
Thank you!
You are the man...thanks so much
Thanks for watching!
You're amazing, man, really🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I appreciate that!
My man, you have much more patience than i have.
I just couldnt be arsed doing all that.
I tip my hat to sir.👍
Thank you! Just imagine the amount of work that goes into creating professional sound libraries!
@@MusicianParadise ooofff. Surely there's gotta be an easier faster way?
Sample robot or something.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 For the analog or digital instruments with MIDI sample robot it’s the way to go, now imagine symphony orchestra - no sample robot will do that😂
@@MusicianParadise Oh my days...I can't imagine how long and painstakingly monotonous that must be.
You're very informative 👁️🗨️ would have purchased this. Continue aiding the community to use their weapon of choice to its fullest capability while learning at their own pace. Salute to you 💪🏾
Thank you for the support!
this is Madness ! lol what a dedication !
after doing this keygroup I look at some sample libraries price tags and everything seems very reasonably priced to me. LOL
I just gotta have those sounds especially the last patch .. “maybe I’m gonna soften a bit more with a filter “ really beautiful sounds thanks ,
Oh yes, this keygroup work great with the FX! I don't think I'll ever use it dry!
Super video!
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Wow this is very impressive!!!
Thanks for watching!
Great tutorial
Glad you think so!
Your piano may be square but you gave a great all-round presentation - generous too to offer all of your hard work for free👍
So nice of you, many thanks!
Excellent video! Just what I was looking for as I’m about to do this with my guitar.
I don’t know if I’ll quite go the lengths you have though! You are a legend!
@@huntergalloway3944 I cut some corners although - I decided not to bother with the sample loops, just did long samples. Multisampled guitar must be a very interesting project!
@Musicians Paradise It definitely will! Im thinking that I want to do it before I go on a trip, as I’ll be taking my MPC Live with me. I’ve already made multi sampled keygroups of my ESQ-1, DSS-1, and Yamaha EX-5, as well as drum programs of my various drum machines. RX-5 (my favorite) included. If I’m able to successfully multi sample a good electric guitar, it’ll be like having my entire studio in one box! I think I’ll record my Fender Jazzmaster through a 5 watt Champ, recorded with a 57 and good room mic. If only there was such a thing as auto sampling non midi instruments!
BTW I use your Rogue and RX-7 samples all the time. I’m pretty excited to check out this new keygroup. Seriously, you provide an amazing service to the production community and I very much respect your dedication. Do you have a patreon?
I thought for a second you had the gold Live. you are a sample God! keep up the excellent work.
Haha, thanks for watching!
You LEGEND
His is Crazy !!!
Talking about this Guy
OMG !!!
Excellent 😊
Thanks 😊
Very cool!!! ❤
Thank you!
What a fantastic video, and thanks very much for sharing your hard work! Just re-posted this over at the MPC-forums - hope you get some love.
Thank you for sharing! It makes all the difference!
Great video.
Thanks for the visit!
Lot of work!
ohh yes, it was quite an experience !
Japanese patience!!
Great job man!!
Congrats!
Thanks a lot! After doing this project my respect for sample library's creators is all times high!
Holy s#it, what an effort, thanks for sharing!!
You're welcome!
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Thank you!
Holy shit dude. You are amazing.
Thanks for watching!
This is now easily the most beautiful instrument in my MPC. Thank you!
@@BrandonWhalen Thanks for a kind words!
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Thank you! 🙏
Download my Square Piano Keygroup for MPC:
mailchi.mp/691c4734b397/gcn7kshflq
Thank a lot for this🔥🔥🔥 you just got a new subscriber. Just one quick question, do I need to make the whole workflow you just did on the video o can I upload the instrument expansion to the software then export it to my standalone unit? Just wondering cause I'm trying to use it but the expansion does not show in my MPC software to export
it is not an expansion, but installation process is very easy - just drop the downloaded folder into SD card or USB drive on your MPC, go to the MPC browser, access the aforementioned folder and load the keygroup to the track! Let me know if you succeeded, thanks for the sub, and check my other free keygroups and MPC pad perform chord progressions on my channel!
Sorry for flooding you with questions, but you seem to be expert on MPC keygroups:
1. Is there a way to merge multiple keygroups? I've sampled mono synth with different settings, and would like to make it velocity switch. I would also like to make layered instruments this way
2. Is there a way to do round-robins with velocity switching? It seems as if they're mutually exclusive, i.e. 4 round-robins across single velocity layer or 4 velocity layers with single round-robin layer. There is a work-around by adding more key-ranges on same key, but velocity start and end don't work in cycle or rnd mode.
1.Yes, but you will have to assign the samples manually to the sample layers, and it will may take a lot of time
2.No, at least to my knowledge.
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Thanks!
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This is really awesome! Is there a way to do this directly through the MPC. I am wanting to create a key group from a keyboard that has no midi capabilities so the auto sampler is out but I can easily plug into the inputs since it's not acoustic.
Yes, you can do it all on MPC without any software, it will take little more time. If your keyboard has CV inputs you can use the autosampler feature to automate the process.
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Damn Really Appreciated your tech workmanship Doc...what other keygroups have you created I'm interested I tried to do my Nord but was unsuccessful 😔. I wish Akai would give us a good sounding piano but I understand memory is a factor but with the technology we have today it's not impossible more memory truly makes it a Real Stand Alone.
Yes, I have some other keygroups, check out links in the description of this video! For piano sound I would try to sample the Nord piano with autosampler although 4 velocity layers probably will be not enough. I hope Akai will give us a larger sampled instruments in the future - AKAI Force already updated with the disk streaming. I hope disk streaming is coming to MPC as well!
@@MusicianParadise thanks 😊
Sheer genius...
Thank you, more content about sampling is to come!
@@MusicianParadise I appreciate you ..you are helping me with understanding what works..and my ear is getting better.
One of the few sampling tutorials, very cool. Is there a way to control all keygroups/keyranges with single q-link? Say, cutoff or VCA attack? I usually program macros for ableton instrument I create.
I believe yes, you can assign Q links to various parameters. I have try it myself
You can map attack or cutoff to q-link, BUT ONLY FOR SINGLE KEYGROUP. So if you want to play with cutoff, you can't, it would work only if you have single keyrange in the program. Pretty embarasing, for the creators of S5000 I would say
@@micindir4213 ohh hopefully Akai will add this feature, updates are quite frequent!
would love to have some nord electro strings, electric piano and piano as keygroup in mpc live, would you consider creating that type of keygroup for the mpc?
well, it's kind of "grey" territory in legal terms.Yes, you can sample vintage gear what out of production but to sample current products like the Nord sample libraries feels like infringing Nord copyright, so I would not go there personally.
@@MusicianParadise yep i get that!
Has anyone pushed for them to add note/chord recognition on the MPC forum? They do seem to add features if enough people ask for them!
Yes, I think AKAI will implement at list note recognition one day. But recently I found even better solution - inexpensive Preset Maker software for converting .wav and .aiff multisamples into MPC's sampler format. It greatly simplifies the whole process, including note recognition!
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On a technical 'note', if sampling directly into the MPC ONE/LIVE the sample rate is 44.1kHz
and all official sample packs contain 44.1kHz samples. Supposedly the MPC is locked to 44.1kHz ? (maybe due to it's DACs).
You recorded at 48kHz, does the MPC then need to carry out resampling?
When I save a project in the MPC and your waves also saved/duplicated in the project, they are still 48kHz.
I can also export a wave of the program to SD card as a 44.1kHz, 48khz or 96kHz wave file, I presume these are upsampled from 44.1kHz. But in the case of your 48kHz files, if I save a wave file of a program to SD at 48kHz I assume no conversion has taken place, leading me to think the MPC can internally process 48kHz and 96kHz files, and it doesn't reduce everything to 44.1kHz.
Looking online it seems a lot of people are asking this same question - as Akai aren't giving any info on it. What happens to a sample loaded into the MPC at 48kHz, is it internally processed at 48kHz? or is it resampled down to 44.1kHz - as small jumps in resampling are never a good idea i.e. from 48 to 44.1kHz. Then when exporting a program at 48kHz, is it then resampled back up to 48kHz - that's a lot of resampling and quality loss, down then up again for no reason.
Well, this is one very good question - I was surprised my 48Kz files worked in my MPC Live straight away. MPC internal clock fixed at 44.1Kz. How it deals with 48Kz files? No idea...I'll do some tests - maybe MPC reading those files as 44.1Kz at expense of pitch?
I had to re-tune my keygroup to A=440 because the square piano I sampled was tuned at A=420, but probably I compensated for a sample rate without even noticing that?
I did some tests today - I loaded the same sound as a 44.1Hz sample and as sample and 48Kz sample into the drum program. No noticeable difference are audible on playback, but as I found out in the MPC sample editor, 48Hz sample was pitched up automatically by 0,13 cents, which seems very interesting to me. I don't have the expertise to make a valid conclusion, but it seems MPC reading 48Hz samples by clocking those at 44.1 and auto compensating by retuning the sample to match a correct pitch!
@@MusicianParadise ok, I think the MPC is holding the 48kHz sample within it's memory as 48kHz, and will then save it as such, again, 48kHz, in a saved project.
As there's more samples per second in 48 than 44.1, if it were to play that at the 44.1 rate the pitch would drop. So it's playing them faster, actually 1.088435 x faster, which is basically resampling on the fly. The issue is, this must result in some interpolation quality reduction, though maybe not much.
On the whole it might be best converting to 44.1 (with a good re-sampler, r8brain or iZotope) before loading into the MPC, though that's aiming for perfection which is not really the point of the exercise? ;-) I know guys who record at 88.2 then resample down to 44.1 for CD as that's a pure 2x reduction in sample rate, clean. Actually I've done this, so I'm one of them.
BTW I'm now interested in that Neumann mic you have - and just to say your square piano - on the MPC - is REAL!!!
@@juliansimmons7700 Yes, really good points taking here, definitely, recording at 88.2 and downsampling to 44.1 for MPC seems like a very good advice, I'll try to do that in my future projects! The mic I'm using is Neumann TLM 102
how long did the whole process take approximately? Thanks 🙏
I spend a day - approximately 8 hours !
You could work for Native Instruments and should work for Akai ;)
Maybe one day!
Hey, great video! I was wondering why you didn't use the automated keygroup function in the MPC?
Did you you mean autosampler?
@@MusicianParadise Yep. Sorry, I'm not in front of my MPC and couldn't remember the correct term 😅
@@nathanbrown19 - because Auto Sampler is to trigger MIDI instruments (whether they be plugins or other hardware). He sampled an actual real piano... with a mic. ;)
@@EnochLight as yes, but isn't there a way of just passing it an audio of said notes? (I'm fairly certain there is... But could be wrong 😜)
@@nathanbrown19 well, to use autosampler we'll need midi or midi over USB. 200 years ago is was not an option !🤣
great job, but there is a mistake when you set up the velocity ranges: if your first range is 0 - 40, than the second range should start at 41, otherwise if you press a key at 40 velocity value, you're going to hear two samples at the same time
Yes! Thank you very much - I just realise I did the same mistake on other 3 LAYERS ! I will correct it soon, and re-upload the keygroup. Well spotted!
ofcourse avoid all of the velocity ranges overlapping each other (40 was just an example, what is the issue)
@@SamplingHigh Yes! exactly!
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hi how do i load it thanks
Copy folder with the files on SD card and insert it into MPC. Open some project. Go to the browser and navigate to the SD card and to the folder with the files. Make sure drum/keygroup tab is selected (four squares) under "Search directory" title. Now you can see my keygroup. Tap on the keygroup and hit load. Go to the main screen. On the track tap the keygroup shortcut (small keyboard). Keygroup must appears below, under "keygroup program" Hit bank C - now you can play the keygroup on pads. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!
is it still this cumbersome to make an instrument on the MPC? I mean, isn't THIS what Akai should focus on making a very easy operation on the MPC? Regards
Well, it's not as bad as it may seem from this quite old video. Since then, I have learned a few things:
1. Sampling acoustic instruments is most difficult, and MPC is not tailored for this job. You'll need a good microphone, preamp, audio interface, and most of the work is done in the DAW.
2. There is additional software, such as "Preset Maker," which was not available at the time I made this video. The "Preset Maker" can take all of the tedious work shown in the video away, automatically renaming and converting the audio files into MPC .xpm format.
3. I had extremely good and fast results using MPC's built-in autosampler, which is a joy to work with. It automatically samples the synths that have CV or MIDI with no additional hardware or software needed- this is clearly the thing AKAI was focused on.
The more I do of sampled instruments, the more I learn about how certain workflows and tedious tasks can be optimized and automated. I recognize a big difference between how professionals approach this kind of work and someone like me - I'm basically documenting my learning process!
@@MusicianParadise Many thanks for all that info and your other answer to my other comment. You make such great videos i must say, its super interesting to see and discover features and possibilities in the MPCs. Im now trying to sample ezdrummer to put some of its presets on my Live in standalone. I know its not going to be a full version but a lighter version but stil would be very useful to have, there are some that i really like to use. Ill see if i figure out something. Cheers
@@MusicianParadise Just wanted to add that it would be super interesting to see something where you use this Preset Maker with the MPC. Making your own instruments for sure but mostly making your own version of existing Kontakt libraries etc, its so convinient to not have to use the computer and have a standalone version of our libraries. Even if they are more light and simple. Just a suggestion for content. Cheers :)
@@eddiexx I was thinking to make such a video for a long time! Maybe I'll make it!
@@MusicianParadise fantastic! there is nothing on it, and ive searched. meanwhile i will try the autosampler and test with a string library, i dont know much more than i will need just 4 velocities per note at the most to catch the most basic expressions, the real job will be to make them blend between each other i guess, like crossfade. well see how it goes. Look forward any update from you. Regards :)
Where the hell did u get that ....?
I got this Square Piano for evaluation - I just could not resist and sampled it (instead of charging my fees)😀
If only AKAI could have allowed the device to detect notes
Well, at least AKAI added a tuner to the MPC lineup! Setting the tuner to "resample" mode will provide you with the note name, MIDI note number, and fine tune deviation from the 12 tet temperament tuning. It would be very nice to be able to automatically rename and tune the samples using the information gathered by the MPC tuner!
CHORDIMIST???
Chordimist it's a great M4L device, I hope vercion 2 coming sometimes in the future!
No MIDI???? Not even USB????
No mod wheel !!!
Very complicated
Yes, sampling acoustic instruments it's a form of art, I'm just scratching the surface, lol!