The Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier: Cyprus Dispute Explained
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2018
- Cyprus, NATO's unsinkable aircraft carrier. In this video I look at how the island of Cyprus became divided through ethnic conflict and Western intervention.
Starting as far back as 1571 when the Ottoman conquest changed the demographics of the island, all the way up until the 1974 invasion the Greeks and the Turks of the island never quite managed to live together in harmony. This ethnic tension was made worse by the Cold War, and Cyprus became caught up in the world of geopolitics, in which it occupies an incredibly strategic position.
A United Nations peacekeeping force has been operating in Cyprus for over 50 years - the longest running UN force of all time. Nicosia is the last divided capital city in the world. As of yet, all attempts and negotiations to solve the dispute have failed. One can only hope that the situation is solved sooner rather than later, and without any further violence.
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Mediterranian Mix 1 - Stefan Netsman
Archive footage courtesy of the Associated Press: www.aparchive.com/
A huge thank you to AP for permission to use their archive footage for free for this video.
"at the end, both side got what nobody wanted: independence"
Well, add that to the list of phrases I never thought I'll hear make sense in my life.
How can they both get Independence when one state is recognized and the other is not when one state can sell make trades and deals and the other is under embargo and can't do anything how can both side be independent when the north is living like a second class citizen that has suffered ethnic cleansing murders and been chased out of there homeland who had to leave there homes in the south and go to the north.
@@cahitgureller5390 Both sides have suffered equally. The north is not recognized because it was created because of the power hunting of some Greek , Turkish and US poticians. Everything that happened was wrong and the way I see it ,a nation created from a nato country which got the opportunity to attack another nato country and take their states should not be recognized.
@@chrisbotos they should be recognized and only one side had suffered and is still living as if a second class citizen in its own country Turkey had no choice but to intervene the violence from the Greeks as they was a guarantor to Cyprus the Greeks suffered nothing as it was them doing the killing as they wanted to rid the island of Turks to be a Greek only island and joint with Greece
@@chrisbotos Turkey was dragged into the war because of the ethnic cleansing, there are brittish sources that confirm this. I wouldn't simply blame both sides for the endgame.
@@ulkucu3492 Turkey did the ethnic cleansing in Cyprus, are you fucking kidding?
As a Greek Cypriot, I'm impressed with how accurate this is. There are even Cypriots who don't know as much about the dispute as this guy does
Thank you Andreas for your impartial comments. Today from my own take Cyprus is a cesspit of corruption; on both sides. Greeks on the take from the EU and sham passports and Turks selling their land just to drive a big car........noone is the winner
@@minekara6407 Ridiculous and ignorant comment. Even if you are trying to make a point it is ridiculous. Typical.
This is not as accurate as you think. It is biased. Just use common sense. Turkey should have taken the whole island and decimated Greece while at it.
@@okaunis the hell? Give me one good reason for genocide
@@shamrock141 Ask America who tossed nukes in Japan and bombed Iraq to oblivion. Maybe the US is your hero.
There is a well known old saying: If two fish are fighting in a pond, an Englishman walked near there.
Last time i’ve seen this it was an indian saying lol
Pretty sure it’s Iraqi
@@somedude866 pretty sure you are a nationalist
@ASL 72 Simply NO
ASL 72 😂😂 is that what you tell yourself at night .. those railroads are mode to transport the loot they stole .. India used to have 25% of worlds gdp before colonization and after guess how much they had when Britain leave ? Guess. I’ll give you a moment
3% ! Yes you saw that right
"Despite the UN force the violence did not stop"
I'm shocked
greece occupy 3km island from turkey its also violance but un did not stop.
@@6even757 According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS),every island has 12 nautical miles territorial waters.
That is currently 6nm,because still your liberal country Turkey does not accept,ILLEGALLY of course,because superpowers are backing Turkey constantly,plus because you are using your military threats (Greece has 10 millions population and Turkey 80 millions).
So if you are already illegal,at least shut your mouth.
Don't say malakies for 3km,etc.
@@harryhoudini1669 you do know the Aegean waters are an exception due to how close the islands are right? 6 nm is the recognized one and yet greece is always claiming more and more up to 12 nm which is actually violating the status quo and the peace in the region
@@axiston2 As I said,according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS),every island has 12 nautical miles territorial waters.
The only thing that violates peace in the Aegean sea is your country Turkey.
Turkey,that has become the favourite and most obedient dog of superpowers,and this dog is so coward that barks only to Greece and Cyprus,because of the less population.
But when orders come from America or Russia,you are sitting kneeling to obey.
Throughout recent history you violated peace in Cyprus too(occupying almost half island),Syria,Iraq...
Plus the fact that you refuse to accept Greek genocide (including the Pontic genocide) in Minor Asia,where Greeks were existing for 3,000 years.
Don't say for peace,please,if you don't know the definition of peace,respect,civilisation and friendship.
The only you know is how to provoke.
PS 1:what I mentioned above is for your country's politicians,because simple people are not like this.
They are just being used from your politicians,because they are uneducated.
PS 2: If you have official documents that you can proof the exception of Aegean sea from 12 to 6 miles,you can send me the link.
BUT TO BE INTERNATIONAL,AS I TOLD YOU FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW OF SEA.
Not illegal Turkish documents and inexplicable claims of Turkey in the area.
Otherwise if you don't have international proofs,I will never believe that.
@@harryhoudini1669
Greek genocide? Its as relevant as roman genocide made by goths. Are u suing anyone for that?
Did greek commit genocide against hittites? lets discuss that. They were here before you.
There are many examples of countries coming to terms to not use 12 nm. Beacuse its not logical.
Did you check the map? Search for the agreement between GB and France.
About super powers. Last time ı check US building new military bases in Greece. Not in Turkey.
Go and spend a little more german money m8. I am gonna buy one of your ıslands when your country go bankrupt.
Professor McGonagall: Why is it when something happens it is always you three?
US, UK, Russia:
Ramboost007 it was Realpolitik of the Cold War. For the 21st century I expect Russia will be maneuvering with China & India for control of countries. I wish mine would stay out but doubt it will be so wise.
How dare you leave my country out, Israel 🇮🇱
And here was I thinking the Turks had a role.
You forgot the jews!!!!
@Kas The reason why we have militant Islamic groups is because their rhetoric takes advantage of the discord that the UK has caused after the collapse of the Ottoman empire in the Middle East
Grievous looks over at Cyprus: “This will make a fine addition to my collection.”
Hello there!
Fuck you
@@creeperkill3891 General Kenobi!
Time to abandon ship
Matt Frankman
good... good... let the hate flow to you
"Let me introduce another country that was involved"
*United States*
me: *pretends to be shocked*
*inserts Patrick Stewart mild shock gif*
bluemoon you are so funny lol!!,
Only think United States with Cyprus is they ruining our economy
Kissinger help bringing the military Colonels in Greece on April 21, 1967..
@Θάνος Αλε very confusing sentences you've made I'm trying to process what you wrote. But also all the countries will collapse from its own sins from turkey with the genocide of the Armenians Greek and a Assyrian Christians.. and us Greeks I need to better manage their financial affairs struggle within so the EU and the World Bank or China put a Stranglehold on Grease again. Greece has to learn to be self-sufficient
Having lived in Cyprus from 1970 until shortly after the war and having had first hand experience from both Greek and Turkish Cypriot viewpoints this documentary comes very close to what was really happening at the time. Unmentioned are the massacres from Greek Cypriot on Greek Cypriot shortly after the Coup and Greek Cypriot on Turkish Cypriot shortly after the Invasion.
This felt a little biased considering it didn't mention the killings of Turks with the purpose of ethnic cleansing at all. Other than that I agree it seemed well prepared
You sound a ✨little✨ biased
@@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove I probably am a little biased. I have Greek, Turkish and Armenian Cypriot friends and would have preferred the continuation of, although in the mid 70´s not perfect, a democratic united Cyprus with communities that were increasingly integrating as Cyprus became wealthier. Unless you witnessed or heard first hand reports by being on the island at the time there is no mention anywhere, as far as I know, of the atrocities commited in the summer of 1974. Racism/Ethnic hate, family feuding unfortunately occurs everywhere, for a few short weeks in Cyprus a small number of idiots were able to get their hands on weapons and carry out a number of atrocities without the fear of having to account for their actions. The British and US Governments at the time ultimately carry a lot of the responsibility for what happened but in the end it is individuals, of whatever religion or ethnicity, who ultimately make the decision to treat others in a way that they themselves would never wish to be treated.
@@KeithTinker my father now 73 years of age still can't claim his property back in Limassol, he left age 15. He tells me turks and greeks were all friends living there, there was no fights before the coup everyone just got on with life. The regular people that live there have seen brutality they fail to mention the genocide, my father never speaks of what he witnessed but I know he saw his friends killed.
@@eminesalih3194 The Canadian UN "peace keeping" force knew of at last one massacre of approximately 14 Turkish Cypriots in a village between Paphos and Limassol but I don't believe it appears in any official documents. In Limassol a few individuals may have been killed but I believe most of the Turkish Cypriots in the Limassol or Dhekelia area found refuge in the British Sovereign Bases. I hope that one day, and hopefully in the lifetime of those who lived in pre 1974 Cyprus, that the island can be reunited. East and West Germany managed to reunite, but the people must want it enough to show the politicians that that is what they want. Until then make friends with people on the otherside of the dividing line and share the wonderful culture that has been inherited by "all" Cypriots.
6:29 - gee I wonder which country that could be...
6:40 - I AM COMPLETELY SHOCKED
Zack Akai lol
Hahaha
I dont really like America ...
I'm not suprised, infact if it would be lottery I would have won 3M dollar.
@@chickenselect0 Racist much?
a cgp grey and a wonderwhy upload on the same day. something truly wonderful and rare has happened
nihonium and Wendover
This is the most underrated comment this year
All of youtube is filled with "cgpgrey and _____ uploaded today praise the lord"
yep I thought I was seeing old videos at first such a wonderfully rare treat.
nihonium now you need to upload
I'm a 'Greek' Cypriot, but I see myself only as Cypriot. My family have lots of 'Turkish' Cypriot friends, and we all know that we have suffered throughout the years, mostly through the involvement of other powerful countries (UK, US, Greece, Turkey etc). There is a powerful shared unity between all Cypriots with regards to this suffering. We are one Cyprus, and I truly hope that one day things will be better for ALL Cypriots.
@Huso Ucar aren't you a friendly person!
@@melanoire
I agree. Cyprus belongs to Cypriots and no one else. You should unite.
I am saying this as a Turkish person. Your country suffered enough.
If we ever get rid of *you know who* the new president of the country should try to fix the cyprus mess by helping you to unite. I will follow his or her politices about Cyprus before voting for them. Ocuppation of UN recognized land is a big no for me. And dividing the same people of the same country will only make everything worse.
Δεν υπαρχει να λεει καποιος Κυπριος σκετο. Για 1000αδες χρονια το νησι ηταν ελληνικο μεχρι το 1571 που οι Τουρκοι μπηκαν. το 1960 θελησαν οι Ελληνες της Κυπρου να ενωθουν (οπως ενωθηκε η Κρητη η Ροδος κλπ, εκεινοι δεν εγιναν ξαφνικα Ροδιτες και Κρητικοι σαν ξεχωριστη χωρα) ομως οι ηλιθιοι πολιτικοι και η χουντα εχασαν το νησι μας το 1974 και δεν βοηθησαμε με ολο μας το στρατο γιατι φοβηθηκαν εναν πιο γεικευμενο πολεμο. Αυτο δε σημαινει οτι σημαινει οτι ξεχναμε τους Κυπριους τα αδερφια μας που εχουμε την ιδια σημαια τον ιδιο εθνικο υμνο την ιδια γλωσσα και θρησκεια. Συγγνωμη για αλλη μια φορα που σας αφησαμε στο ελεος των Τουρκων...Δεν ξεχνω. Κυπρος 1974.
As a Cypriot this is by far one of the most objective, unbiased and well prepared documentary mentioning Cyprus issue.
Every turkey Cypriot ever: aS a CyPrIoT
@@athossavvides8992 there is no such thing as turkey cypriot. We are all Cypriots living on this tiny piece of land. So if that bothers you Turkish Cypriot would maybe better for you to use? Like it or not we are happy to share this island with our Greek Cypriot friends :) Its never too late to learn. I believe i am totally aware and capable of defining my own nationality so you dont need to waste your efforts on creating one for people you dont know :)
Açelya Coşar well just so you know turkish cypriot means a turk who is born in cyprus... at the same time greek cypriot means greek who is pborn in cyprus
@@athossavvides8992 thank you for confirming what i just wrote 😁
@@AcHeLLa7 I am not sure if Greek Cypriots are happy to share the island
Exiled to the Seychelles!!
That's more of a holiday than a humiliating exile
Better than Denmark certainly.
@@merrittanimation7721 denmark isnt real wtf
@@braxton7577 wth another theory. From where are u btw
Ikr? I wanna laze around the beach all day too!
@@kenllacer Just Don't make it a Colony
CGP Grey and WonderWhy in one day. Today's a good day
SKX44 not to mention both video’s are about territorial disputes
Damn you! I was going to make this comment lol
And wendover
Raresel 4
Well Wendover uploads more often than WonderWhy and CGP Grey so its not that special
TheGamingParadise still nice though
I am more than impressed on how accurate this explanation of the Cyprus dispute is.
Wow! Congratulations bro! An excellent and quite impartial analysis of how things have unfolded in Cyprus. Impressive for a foreigner to know details in such depth for a tiny island that is usually being neglected by the world. Kudos from a Greek Cypriot!
Friend: “there she is! Act natural”
Me: 8:29
SingForAbsolution 01 +
He looks like Borat
lmao
+1
We should add that the solutions proposed under the EU was designed not to have a solution. EU is just another capitalist power, they want division too. Divide and control, simple as that. Please learn about Resource Based Economy!
US: helps Greece become a military dictatorship that wants Cyprus
Also US: tells Turkey to take 100% of Cyprus because the Greek Cypriots are dangerous
Turkey: *takes 30% of Cyprus*
US: no not like that, this not allowed. Stop it!
edit: I originally wrote greeks but i ment greek cypriots.
Greece and Cyprus have common ancestry, language and religion. They are both the same nation (by majority) and they both wanted (by their majorities) to unite in one state.
The situation can be spinned in many ways but the base fact is that this would change the geopolitical map and that couldn't be had by certain geo powers at the time.
@KoivuTheHab What was a millenia ago?
@KoivuTheHab Well, you offer insult and your facts are all over the place. Let's address them.
The official language of the Cypriot state is Greek, which is identical to what Greece speaks. If you are looking for local dialects, Greece is full of them everywhere to this day, as it happens with a living language that exists for more than 5000 years.
Cypriot native population is Greek and has always been since before 3000 BC.
Since then, the known rulers that were not of native origin, have ruled the Greek population as they needed it's economy and labor, as foreign rulers often do through history.
As the lands and islands were conquered by the Turkish populations that slowly poured in (originating from Mongolia and east Asia) through the middle ages, the island got a turkish-speaking minority.
Finally, part of the island was invaded by Turkey in 1974. Turkey formed there a state by force which was declared as legally invalid by the United Nations and the international community, apart from the invader Turkey. The reasons the Turkish invasion happened are rooted in geopolitics and are explained in the video above.
Note: Since then, Turkey has moved parts of it's own population onto the occupied side of the island in order to alter the population numbers in their favor in future disputes. Even so, Turks are still a minority.
@KoivuTheHab Friend, you don't need to offend the people you are in dialog with, even if you wish to disagree with them. You should also read their replies as this is how dialog works.
The population of the Republic of Cyprus is 99.5% Greek. The rest 0.5% is mainly Turks. Of course the island recognizes their language and accomodates to them. Cyprus is a EU country.
You cater to a regime that was established by force and is condemned by the UN and the international community as a whole. The reasons are explained in this video. There is no northern Cyprus. It is part of the Republic of Cyprus occupied by the state of Turkey after it invaded Cyprus in 1974 and established a local puppet state.
I hope this will get resolved soon, with respect to the people that this island is home to and not to the invaders.
@KoivuTheHab Friend, you can speak in that tone all you want.
In my experience, one can tell the brainwashing by the passion and the accusing that some people apply.
Me, I have nothing to force upon anyone and nothing to prove. Unfortunately, Turkey attacked Cyprus and occupies a large part of the island against international law as this video explains and as the UN and the international community stand in this matter, against the invader. And when I talk casualy by calling Greek Cypriots and Turk Cypriot just Greeks and Turks of the Republic of Cyprus and that is what you focus on, then that just shows what you have left to bring to the table of the matter I'm afraid.
Just relax and be someone that people enjoy talking with, it can go a long way, trust me. I think you are in support of a criminal regime condemned by every country on earth, but I try to be polite and exchange some points. Despite your beliefs whatever they are, you are a human, capable of good judgement and great things if you want.
Im impressed at how accurate the facts in this video are , well done
Very well narrated . Excellent piece of journalism.
You should have mentioned Turkey actually faced an embargo mostly from the US. US didn't allow Turkey to use many American weapons, weapon parts etc which made Turkey to be create its own military industry
All of your tanks are American. All your planes are American , you also use many other American weapons. You have no idea what you are talking about. Yes you make some of your own weapons but you have been using American weapons for many many years and used them to invade and occupy (illegaly) Cyprus.
@@arxaggelosmixail1840 OMG what kind of ignorant Greek are you? XD Most of our tanks are not even American WTF!?? Besides the planes today many of the military industry is mostly independent. Even military drones are all independent. Make some research before writing stupid comments kid! :D
The embargo has been in place against the TNRC and the Republic of Cyprus, not Turkey or even Greece. Quit being so full of shit.
@@heinrichb What makes you think you know more than Turks about their own history?
US put weapon embargo on Turkey for 3 years, after we took the northern cyprus. we had to buy 10 times expensive weapon parts from black market in that 3 years.
This is hands-down the most well-researched, well-presented and objective documentary about the cypriot problem. Major props. Trust me, a lot of Cypriots, esp younger ones, can learn a lot from this. Each side presents subjective sides of the story and omits what doesn't look good for decades.
I hope we as the young generation of Cypriots can finally realize we've been manipulated from the start and try to find common ground instead of hating each other for past sins. There will always be tension, but it's up to us to try our best to live as one and not let extremists dictate our future.
Rafael Economides
Unfortunately we want peace but a simple sorry and we were wrong may go a long way
And for what I hear and read stubborn Greek will never admit his wrong !
Let the people of Greek Cypriot people believe and promote their propaganda
It was a Invasion
Lol 😂
@@ibzzzzkr935 i wish one day greeks use the turkish imperial tactic taking back Istanbul and Izmir killing millions of turkish and then have peace forever , it will be great...
@@eliast2761
Fucking psycho.
Elias T That was 500+ years ago GET OVER IT ALREADY. Do you think the Romans just fucking spawned there in the beginning of time? No you fucking moron they too invaded lands, butchered people and conquered cities. That’s how empires came to power for fuck’s sake.
@@daddysasageyo9263 1974 wasnt 500 years ago novice, stfu and go learn your own non-existent history..WW2 and Palaistine-Israeli wars were happened much earlier but we heard about that on news all the time..Moreover Turkish fascists want the oil/natural gas resources of Greece Cyprus and Syria and they are creating problems to us and Syria
I'm a Cypriot and I want to say thank you for making this video.
*WonderWhy* : How was a NATO member allowed to launch a full-scale invasion against another sovereign state?
*The US pretending to be angry* : Ye-yeah, how the hell was that allowed?
Turkey also fight against the Greek forces which were on the island. There was a NATO to NATO Battle....
Because Greece started the program to kill Turkish citizens that's why Turkey took full action,,,,besides this was ottoman land for 100 of years and they never killed any Greece citizens,,,,,
@@saidhussein2679 are you really sure that turkey never killed Greek citizens?
@@georgedimas4963 %70 population are greek how Turkish would to kill all them? you guys started kill turkish people then Turkey invade
Ottoman empire invaded Cyprus. It doesn't mean its turkey . Before that Cyprus was nation separate from Greeks or any other invaders. This video did not mention that. Greeks and Cyprians are two different nations.
Cyrpus capital
turkish : Lefkosa
greek : Lefkosa
all other language : NiCosiA
Yeah lol
Greek is lefkosia
That actually comes frok Frankish nobles who ruled Cyprus and couldn’t pronounce the “le-“
Also, its Lefkosia and Lefkoşa.
Λευκωσία ρε φάτε
In Greek it's Lefkosia and it should be Lefkosia in Turkish and all other languages too and that's because "Lefko" means white and "sia" is because the city is "a female" in Greek because in Greek there is male and female on things too. Amd it means "White and when you are describing a female"
Colonel Grievous? Any relation to the General?
Well
*HELLO THERE*
Fliyo MB General Kenobi...
Grivas
I could easily see him using his multiple robotic arms and lightsabers to mow down Turks...
General Grivas actually.
My father turk cypriot and I travel there almost every year, this was pretty accurate. One thing thats interresting is that while the turks were getting support from USA, The soviet was supporting greece in secrecy by sending weapons, artillery and so on. There is a lot of mass killings not being brought up to the buildup of 1974. Many civilian turk cypriot were killed and slaughtered and vice versa for the greeks. Also the majority of turk and greek cyprtiots did actually live in harmony before EOKA my dad was raised with both turk and greek cypriots speaking both languages.
Never let right wing extremists get a foothold.
doesn’t matter right or left. extremists are always the ones who is selfish.
@154K
Well said. It was EOKA that caused the problems. No EOKA: No division of the island. Also, no EOKA: No TMT.
@@incumbentvinyl9291 No 1955 pogroms in Constantinople = no EOKA attacks on Turks... EOKA was strengthened due to what you did...
Also, no invasion in Anatolia 1000 years ago = no crusades, no Grecoturkish wars and certainly no EOKA..! 🙂
@@NickStrife still complaining about Turkish invasion of Anatolia?
@@mustafaerdem140 Yes and always I will be complaining about it.. You need to be reminded you inv@ded us and not the other way around....
That was such a good, brief rendering of the tragic division of the island. Thank you.
I’m in a good mood today, so my happiness is unsinkable
*In Bob Ross voice* It's a happy little frog.
And then your happiness hits an iceberg and sinks.
kremit the frog you are everywhere
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@@lth9282
Titanic crew via radio: "We are sinking, we are sinking!"
German nearby vessel: "Was are you thinking about?"
radio goes silent
Wonderwhy
CGP Grey
Wendover Productions
Am I dreaming? Best day ever
NativLang too
Ikr
And TierZoo
@Ttrucker Agreed. WonderWhy does far better research than the other two. I'd trust him much more.
Ok, WonderWhy is definitely the best, but I love the other channels too. Wdym it’s the ONLY good one?
As a Cypriot living in Northern Cyprus, all I want is peace... nothing more. I don’t want to be discriminated just because I born here. Same goes for the opposite
you will always be discriminated my friend. truth hurts
As long as you have the United States, Great Britain and the EU meddling in your affairs there will never be peace there.
That’s why my plan is to move from this country when I finish my university because I cannot deal with this nonsense.
@@cemalsonatalicik2336 Good luck my friend. I hope all the best for you.
Problem is you were probably born in a house that was taken by force from someone who used to live there... I mean thats a pretty big problem isnt it?
I love you so much for making this video! Finally some recognition to our suffering
I whas born in Cyprus and it's so nice to see that somebody cares about Cyprus,thank you very much for your kindness!!❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
My mother was married in Cyprus so it holds a special place in my heart
@@jager-2902 aww🥺
I’m born at Greece and my dad like Cyprus
My dad born at Greece where I born and my mom born at Nigeria
was*
0:03 The small island in the Mediterranean??? 😯 Are you kidding.?? Cyprus is 30 times bigger than Malta... The 3rd greatest island in the Mediterranean...
Metehan Turkyilmaz yeah but you are still smaller than Mallorca.
@@californianunionmapper5091, Definitely my friend, you're right. According to uncle google Mallorca 3640 km2 , Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus 3355 km2. The whole island is 9251 km2. It would be so nice to visit Mallorca with family in the summer time. With my respect... 🙏
Metehan Turkyilmaz like to see you visit, I live in Palma.
Philip Arvanitidis but what about including the other isles, that can make it bigger, but the sea between would be exited.
Philip Arvanitidis I don’t know honestly lol.
This is a very good summary. Thank you for creating this
This is by far the best explanation of the dispute
7:00 When you think Great Britain is being a jerk... America shows up again and steal the spotlight of biggest jerk once more...
Fkuk off yank without us there would be no you, and as big as you are we could still nuke you out of existence with our trident subs with 32 nuclear warheads all 8 times bigger than what yous dropped on Japan, imagine if we dropped them on the states you'd be more than the jerk you are now 🇬🇧
@@stanwebb4572 what i said, dickhead.
@@mickharrison9004 You are probably the first person from Great Britain to ever threaten to Nuke the United States...lol We are allies so stop with the nonsense that would never happen.
@@FuKYuClown allies when it suits you, all i was saying is if things changed though we are not deemed a superpower, we have a big sting in our tail, and could still take out any country in the world, with trident,😉☠️🇬🇧
@@mickharrison9004 think your so tough behind your poor keyboard come to the middle east and will show a thing or two about missiles and who the man is
As a Greek Cypriot, I must commend you on an unbiased video. It's not common to see an unbiased presentation of what happened in Cyprus, especially one that mentions Kissinger's involvement in what happened. I think you could have mentioned the divide and conquer at play under British rule a bit, that the Greek Junta had American financing, or the atrocities Greeks faced in Anatolia prior that made Greeks suspicious of Turkey, but otherwise great job.
How about thousands of atrocities that Turks faced in Anatolia? Here is an article which published by Louisville University about Greek atrocities in Anatolia:
louisville.edu/a-s/history/turks/Greek%20Atrocities%20in%20Asia%20Minor.pdf
We Turks and you Greeks will never live together in harmony again if we never accept that both sides did terrible things and we all are guilty because we let european invented nationalism to separate us stupidly which was it's whole purpose anyway...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 I read it and I call bullshit. The turks committed a genocide, the land doesn't belong to them. There have to be consequences for bad actions. Greece already has most the good parts but we're still owed Istanbul (Constantinople) and Smyrna.
Triggered Greeks here should learn that what you plant now you will harvest later!! Greeks did many atrocities during their invasion of Anatolia, their commanders even offically ordered their soldiers to kill Turkish civilians as many as they could while they were running back to Greece!! You can find it in that article i shared which got published by a respectful university. Such a vileness never ever happened in Turkish side and there wasn't a single official order to Turkish soldiers for killing any civilians!! But it is true Turkish soldiers killed Greek civilians for revenge especially militia forces were worse but you Greeks forgot you were the side who were invading, not Turks!
We lived together in harmony for hundreds of years but you had to fight for 'freedom' that you always had!! Visit Spain, France, Britain and check what happened to minorities who lived hundreds of years there, they forgot their mother languages, they forgot their cultures but we never tried to assimilate you so you still have your own language and culture after hundreds of years!! If we did that today there wasn't going to be a Greece nor Cyprus which were Greek and causing problems because Greeks are bunch of losers who can't get the world's attention without provoking Turkey!! Greece organized a coup to gain absolute control on Cyprus with EOKA terrorists which was a direct violation of international agreements that got signed by UK, Greece and Turkey! In return Turkey invaded almost half of the island which was what western countries wanted anyway because they never cared about Greek rights nor Turkish rights what so ever and created hostilities to use us as they wish. You Greeks could cry for few hundreds years more but that wouldn't fix a damn thing at all or you finally start thinking reasonably and try to cooperate with us so we can end these hostilities which are only hurting our countries for absolutely nothing...
@Hellenic Napalm Morea massacre 1821 Armenian genocide 1914.
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Are you sure you didn't try to assimilate us? Do the words "Γενίτσαροι"or better "παιδομάζωμα" ring a bell? We didn't hold on to our language and culture because you let us. We kept our identity though time like we always did, need i remind you of the Roman conquest? Plus, don't you think you are being quite hypocritical accusing *US* of perpetuating hostilities, when we have our airspace and territorial waters violated by *YOUR* "*Peace loving*" government?
Thank you for your video. People can get caught up with which nationality or which side was wrong and who was right. I hope that all nationalities involved have learned that we are all mortal and need to treat each other with a lot more kindness and a lot more respect to each of this cultures and nationalities. The fusion of nationalities and cultures is what make Cyprus so special and so rich in tradition, culture and history. The wounds of conflict will slowly heal when we learn to love each other more. Sometimes with other governments they announce a formal mutual apology. I hope this situation will get better and I hope each side can one day begin to be better friends with each other and have mutual respect.
This was the most balanced video I’ve seen about Cyprus division: the coups, the invasions, the UK/US omission, the treaty violations from both sides, etc. Congratulations.
Kissinger was one of the most Machiavellian characters in 20th century politics.
Kissinger gives Machiavelli a bad name.
Machiavelli was a perfect politician...
Rumor has it Kissinger is the Antichrist.
Kissinger(Antichrist) is against the western interests.
kimi
Yes he is. Reptilian and Antichrist.
Alex Jones said.
UK, Greece, and Turkey: Let's have an geopolitical issue, with relatively local influencing bodies.
USA: 'Murica!
@Sharnie Gujjar Actually, I'm American, not British.
@Sharnie Gujjar yeah, if its not the UK and the US probably some other country, but atleast both are not autocratic
Wow, 1.5 million views. I never thought that people other than cypriots actually cared enough to hear Cyprus's history
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Nai
It's interesting for sure. I know many cypriots and never understood how their hate for the turks developed. Now I understand some of the history.
Asila
Only a Two state solution is acceptable in Cyprus.
thanks so much for this vid a life saver cause this was so hard to put in to a time line through conventional research
The guy at 3:58 just looks so bored. Troops are running by him and he just looks like he’s sighing and saying to himself “Again?”
Yeah man, I felt that face
I love your videos, man. Every time you upload it's a treat.
I'm from Cyprus, in school they never mentioned the American connection.
Also there is Templar churches scattered about the island.
@WonderWhy I like how you decipher and explain topics especially disputes and referendums.
I've heard of the US doing lots of unethical things but not in Cyprus. Shocking really.
Kissinger did it for the Israelis, his brothers.
@@SantomPh CURIOS, WHAT WAS THERE TO GAIN FOR THE ISRAELIS?
It’s a total surprise for me as well
Usually Kissinger acted against Israeli interests,,,, he was like Bernie Sanders of today
dont shock.. now they r in the east mediterenean for natural gas :D
WonderWhy: "How is possible for a NATO country to Invade another soverign country"
Literally USA: Ivaded over 90 countries since WWII
*Invaded
@@FableBlaze Anyway you look at it the U.S. meddling has created more chaos not stability regardless of whether its 90 or 12. Don't forget all the covert actions which makes your 12 number go way up.
NATO Not United Nations
So strange that every nation US invaded was a dictatorship. I wonder why US invaded them :thinking:
@@kebabseverim3364 not every country the USA has invaded was a dictatorship. For example, in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Regardless of their reasoning for the invasion (there were good reasons, the government was doing bad stuff) they still weren't a dictatorship, and the leader of the time was an elected president.
Very nice unbiased summary. Respect from Türkiye.
Nice review of a rather complex situation. The reality is that centuries of animosity between the Greek and Turkish communities, and engrained nationalism, means that a "united" island is not realistic or desirable. The division of the island has at least brought many years of peace. Any other solution (e.g. the re-set of an independent country with shared Greek and Turkish Cypriot rule) would have been extremely unstable (with the enosis drive always there; perhaps still there today). Given Turkey's military superiority, there should also be some gratitude that in fact there wasn't complete annexation of the island. Although, that may have then forced an internationally motivated and recognised division of the island and a permanent resolution to the issue with two recognised states? That perhaps many be the eventual outcome anyway. Good fences make for good neighbours as the adage goes.
As a Cypriot myself, I comment you on the accuracy of this video.
Greek or Turk
@Adam Chasing This comment is hilarious but he might not be familiar with Turkish or Greek names man.
@Free Fire Z3RISO he was being sarcastic
@Free Fire Z3RISO I am not saying you're being sarcastic, I am saying Adam Chasing(the person who you replied to) is being sarcastic. Please do understand that I am neutral about Cyprus politics since I am not from there and also not from Turkey or Greece, so yes you are correct. I know you're serious about this, but I just wanted to tell you that Adam Chasing is being sarcastic because it seems like you took it seriously. Let's relax and be cool with each other, alright bro? Greetings from Singapore.
@@Thundyfish19 He has very low IQ. I'm not saying this because of I'm Turkish. I really like Greek people (non-nationalist ones) and I don't like nationalist Turks.
I think the best for Cypriots is seeing themselves as Cyriots, not as Greeks or Turks. But we see nationalism and religion poisons people, here as well, as usual. In addition USA and Britain will never let them go since it's really an unsinkable aircraft carrier. Furthermore oil reserves under sea around Cyprus makes it even more complicated.
WonderWhy, can you please make a video on Borneo and why it's split into three countries. I assure you, it would be a very interesting topic. Please respond to my comment. Thanks.
Well, Borneo was split into much more than just three countries in the 18th century, and the current borders are mostly just the result of treaties between Britain and the Netherlands. That said, there is a lot of interesting history there, especially in Sarawak, and it is worth speculating what the region would have looked like if the White Rajas hadn't offered Sarawak to Britain for annexation, but retained their independence.
Robert Faber That's true, but the reason I wanted WonderWhy to make a video on Borneo is because I want him to mention the Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation of 1963.
Four countries, according to the Philippines.
@@obsessivelyoli it was a claim. Only 3 had de facto territory.
@@obsessivelyoli de facto and de jure
Thank you for sharing our country's history
My suspicions proved correct
Thanks man for the video.
Best part of this day!!
Thanks WonderWhy :) good to hear your voice again
A very thorough, well documented report of a very controversial, complicated situation. Well done for your accurate work. I am a Greek Cypriot living on this beautiful island which -under different situation - would have been true paradise on earth. Thank you for taking the time.
Well presented
Very fair summary this. I like it. Just one minor point at 12.48. Think he meant to say “Turkish citizens” rather than “Turkish Cypriots”. But it’s correct in the subtitles.
Yeah As a Korean
I'm thinking This island is very important Strategy point
That is why turkey and greece want it
@@leohidri6436 not only turkey and greece british too because of oil
@@FreePalestine711 oh I forgot they found oil thank you for reminding me
@@leohidri6436 The oil belongs to Turkey as Turkey and brits have 100 year secret contracts which are about to expire and then waters belong back to Turkey unless some other divide and rule crap is created by british
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER these are our lands, why don't you want to see?
cyprus
me: island
wonderwhy: aircraft carrier
The background music matches the story perfectly
well made, thank you
Very good representation of what happened by a Non-Cypriot; may we also add that the Greek Military Junta governing Greece had ties with the CIA....not a coincidence! Divide and rule was the master plan...
Us played with us all. Greece, Turkey, Turkish cypriots, Greek cypriots..
@@mylastdream6111 well thats how empires rule; usa also played yugoslavia too, pretending to side with milosevic so he can start destroying yugoslavia, then with croatias press tudjman and usa never had any intention of allowing or saving bosnia to be slaughtered and divided between serbia and croatia but due to gruesome media coming out they pretended to side with bosnians but simultaneously had an arms embargo placed on them so they cannot defend themselves; how pathetic is that; its incredible how bosnians made it and saved their country somehow
@@volimvolim1 Right, except "Bosnians" are not a nationality, nor are they a nation (or, did you forget ;))
@Alleyup1994USA READ BETWEEN THE LINES...! that was the pre-text, if you believe in fairy tales..Cyprus would never become red, despite a strong left party...Makarios simply and truly did not want his land "mortgaged" to any power and that's where he was wrong as Cyprus fell under Nato influence...simply Turkey wanted a part of the island for itself for Occupation and regional influence -they would never be there for the T/c's, this is revealed today..-, Americans knew it so the pre-text was given and she was not stopped from doing so..who's the idiot now, I!
also fun fact, the guns that were given to turkish cypriots from TMT were all financially supported by CIA, same goes for the guns the greek cypriots held, all the guns in the war were bought by the CIA lol
USA and UK : profit from the Cyprus dispute
Greeks, Turks and All Cypriots : THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!
My Guy! 🤣 I was waiting for someone to pull a MGS reference on this
UK yes, they did profited, as always, as with everybody else! Buit for US, it was just nessesery step against Comunisme! US were assholes too yes, they did! But they at least had a reason! While British, witch are English, very, very, very impåortant to remember that British are governed by English! Englishman are in charge! And these Englishman has done similar terrible things almost to everybody on this planet! Everybody!
Gio D good most countries views were backwards and needed our influence
@@giod6266 so even themselves
As a Turk I say this is the,
*funniest fucking comment on youtube I saw in a while*
Outstanding job!
Lived here for 3 years, one of the best experiences of my life!
6:30 I really like that edit you did there, nice one mate
1 of the best videos about Cyprus
Brilliant analysis
Excellent video
Cyprus: Great Britain's unsinkable aircraft carrier
Great Britain: The US's unsinkable aircraft carrier
I'd have expected them to be a little more reluctant to treat another island that way...
You clearly don't know how Britain viewed itself during the Cold War. You may well argue that the US dominated its European allies before the EU became a superpower in its own right, but if you told a British person in the 1960s that they were basically a puppet to the US, you'd do well to expect a swift and powerful punch in the face.
@@rjfaber1991 I dunno man. Speaking as a British person I'd rather be a US client state than a client state of the EU.
+Laurie - Blame Brexit for that. Before Brexit, you were a member state of the EU with more say in EU legislation and policy than all but one other member state, even though your MEPs were notorious for not using that power to take the initiative in furthering British interests within the Union. Now you'll either join the EEA (which is client state-esque), or become completely unaffiliated in a modern world where Britain doesn't have the sway to forge its own geopolitical path, so will still end up being a de facto client state of the US, the EU or another superpower.
@@rjfaber1991 Wtf are you on about? Brexit would be entirely fine if our government wasn't full of inept retards. An actual British exit wouldn't be a problem in terms of regional capacity or economic ability. The only issue with Brexit is the people in charge of it don't want to leave.
Laurie and the reason why they dont want to leave is?
In this video I look at the controversial topic of the Cyprus dispute, an island split between the Republic of Cyprus and the unrecognised Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, physically separated by a United Nations peacekeeping force, that has been operating for more than half a century.
The island was temporarily divided between the Greek and Turkish communities in 1964 due to inter-ethnic violence, and the divide became more permanent in 1974 when Turkey invaded Cyprus, responding to a coup by the Cyprus National Guard (organised by the Greek military junta in Athens)
I also look at how Cyprus' strategic position in the world of geopolitics often exacerbated the already existing tension on the island, as NATO used Cyprus as a military base to keep Soviet influence at bay.
I tried to be as impartial as possible, let's try to keep the comment section civil!
A huge thank you to the Associated Press for allowing me use of their fantastic archive content: www.aparchive.com/
Great Video!
Yea great video!
WonderWhy, can you please make a video on Borneo and why it's split into three countries. I assure you, it would be a very interesting topic. Please respond to my comment.
-sighs- uk should have just kept complete control and of the island
Can you post videos more often. You are very good at it.
Best histirial vid about this conflict i found
thank you, explained perfectly, my daughter lives in cyprus hope someday they sort it out its a beutifull place
8:29 I didn't know Sylvester stallone was undercover greek
It's his cousin Stavros Stallonopoulos
Hahhahahahahh
@@jeanbiroute lol
Because Rambo was on run for the first time. Respect Turkish Military!
Don't be silly. Stallone was nowhere near Cyprus at that time, obviously.
That's Al Pacino.
My grandmother was from Famagusta (major city in Northern Cyprus, most of it is now a ghost town), and all my family's property is still under occupation in the North.
As always this was a very informative balanced video. Thank you, your videos are always worth waiting for.
My Aunt's family was from Limassol area they lost their properties too.
Thats really sad, I'd like to visit the country one day and learn more about Famagusta, it's not the first time I hear about this city
@@matteokamberi5304 Most of Famagusta is off limits now. The parts where you can visit is worth it though.
My parents lived in Famagusta for three years from 1970 to 1973. My father worked in the British military zone around Dheikeia as civil servant for British MOD. I went there every main school holiday as a boy and I really enjoyed it even when my mother took me to beach for swimming almost every day while I am on holiday as we lived near the beach. It was fortunate for my parents, my brother and my sister who lived with them at the time, they moved back home to Britain in 1973 a year before Turkey invaded Cyprus.
Other British citizens often caught in the invasion. My father's workmate told us when he came back home that Turkish troops took him and his family for Greeks and almost kicked them out of their home until he showed his British passport, the Turks then left them alone.
I flew in BEA aircraft (now merged with BOAC to form as British Airways) to Nicosia Airport (now closed and partly used by UN troops as a base) from London Heathrow and vice versa.
I really enjoyed my childhood in Cyprus but it is a pity the war spoiled things.
Kerem Can Demirci yes I am sadly aware of that, I'm not really sure it's even safe to go there since only turkey has recognised northern cyprus as a sovereign state
Super objective documentary, high regards to the creator.
Kıbrıs barış harekatında şehit olanların mekanı cennet olsun🇹🇷❤🇹🇷
"TNT" might just be the best resistence group abbreviation, ever.
TMT*
It might be, yes.
Wow this is amazing, I have alway's taken great interest in the conflict because with out it I wouldn't be alive. My mother was part of a peace keeping force for the UN from Australia and my father was a USMC Embassy Security Guard. They met on the Island when my mother stayed at the US embassy for a week.
best explanation ever!!!
I went into Nicosia Airport in the Buffer Zone back in the mid 80s , there was still a Boeing 727 sat on the tarmac with bullet holes in it
Interesting hearing about the US involvement and goals, didn't really get any education on that part during my time there with the British Army in 1988/89. Always enjoyed my trips to the Northern part of the island, it was like stepping back in time.
Cyprus is a lovely island 👍🏻 Not long came back from there.
Well documented i served in Cyprus we were protecting the Turkish Cypriot community i must say the Turkish Cypriots are worm & wonderful people i would like to visit the Nothern part one day.
Great documentary.
As a Cypriot i vouch for this video's
accuracy
Is it just me or is he talking slower than normal in this video? I'm watching on 1.25x speed and only now it sounds normal
Yea I'm noticing it too
I didn't do it on purpose, but yes I think I did narrate a little slower. It's just that so many people complain about my accent and that they can't understand me. That, and the fact that it's a pretty complicated topic and many people could quickly get lost.
@@WonderWhy I understand. Too bad though, I liked the fast pace :)
+WonderWhy - I liked it. Some people don't sound good when they talk slowly (I know I hated it when CGP Grey had his slow-talking period), but given that your voice is pretty soothing to start with, I actually rather like it; it's a nice tempo to take in information.
@@WonderWhy - As an American, I approve of your accent. I didn't mind the presentation. I'm often watching videos at 1.25 and 1.5 X, if the presenter is fairly clear, so I'd take it as a compliment that folks are watching it sped up!
See y'all in 2020.
who guarantees your future?
he won, she lost. live with it.
what will happen in 2020?
I said a joke but Onur destroyed me and gave me an exestantial crisis
We should add that the solutions proposed under the EU was designed not to have a solution. EU is just another capitalist power, they want division too. Divide and control, simple as that. Please learn about Resource Based Economy!
Great video
Very informative video..
"Turks left their homes"
"Greeks were forced to leave"
*Ah yes,Western propaganda*
>Greeks
>Western
Pick one
Bilimin Sırları how is it propaganda lol
Caravanserai of Life turks aren’t native to Greece
@Caravanserai of Life Hardly a comparison
CGP Grey, WonderWhy, AND TheOdd1sOut?! Am I dreaming?!
thank you for this.
Support greak from India.🇮🇳❣️🇬🇷
Support Pakistan from turkey 🇵🇰🇹🇷
Very accurate history lesson for those interested, all with great detail. I can attest, as I am Cypriot.
Respect from Turkey. I do not approve what my nation did 4 decades ago. yes there was bloodshed caused by both sides but an all out invasion was deffinately not the answer
@@onurgursoy6532 Respect and maşalla to you also my friend!
@@onurgursoy6532 So land ownership status is more important than human lives? What kind a logic is that, there were ethnical cleansing. Even if you soften This as civil War, how come you justify to let people die?
1:04 While starting the video with the 1517 Ottoman conquest can be understood as it is about the intercommunal conflict on Cyprus between the Turks and Greeks, it might give the less informed viewer on the matter the false illusion that the island was independent and peaceful before that. Back and forth in its history, it was also under the rule and influence of Assyrian, Egyptian, Persian, Byzantine, Lusignan, Mamluk, Venetian, Genoese and British. Sad but true.
Ottomans took it because it was protected by Mamluks.
Peaceful or not it wasnt full of turks anytime before 1517
monkoll monkoll
Thank you so much!
God bless Cyprus
God bless Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus!
@@mehmetakifakgul8666 what's that?
@@mehmetakifakgul8666 The country where less than 400 GCs live while over 4000 TCs live in the Republic of Cyprus! But what does the TRNC care?
@@mehmetakifakgul8666 Doesn't exist to anyone but yourself 🤣
@@unkownbot5601 So the guys that beat the sh*t out of you don't exist. Nice Greek human 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷