Why Finland Joining NATO Checkmates Russia
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I like how Russia threatening other European countries to not join nato can be responded with "What are you gonna do? Invade me?"
@Kashgari That would be a self-destructive act.
@@rick7424
No winner's
Only Roaches 🪳 survive
@@rick7424 And you will die too don't forget that ;)
@@earth7551 If Russia fires one nuke, half the world is gonna invade them immediately.
And that nuke could be intercepted.
@@wederMaxim all countries are connected by trade, at an increasing pace going back at least as far as the neolithic.
I heard a saying once; *"While countries have their own armed forces, Finnish Defense Forces have a country of their own."*
As a Finn, i like this proverb.
Prussia wasn't it, not Finland
Don’t give away your country like Sweden did.
Yes, we'll never forget this when they joined arms with Nazi Germany.
thats cool! :)
@@cdybft9050 whatever nazi
As a finn I can confidentaly speak for most of finns when I say that we are tired of Russia's shit and super happy that we joined NATO
Glad to have you
Greetings from the USA ,I'm very impressed with the military y'all have build up 💯,nice to have you in NATO ♥️🤍💙
Welcome
good. now, put your money where your mouth is. The US is becoming tired of being Europe's protector.
So this would be a good time to ask you how the trout fishing is in finland.
Finland is such an amazing country and their people are incredible too
Hard times makes strong people
Every Suomi now pays for Nato weapon, vehicles, maintenance. Well played US. Tramp words "let make them pay for our military corpo"😂
@@TheMarkAvreliy and protections, safety is allways more important than money
cap
@@Nigga978sped
All of Finlands main roadways, tunnels, bridges, etc. have detonation points so that they can be strategically blown up. Also, almost every roadway system also has walkways or paths for troops/small arms. I have lived in Finland for a year and know they don’t fuck around.
Good luck Russia
I'm sure a few nukes in Helsinki would be all the luck you need
Every roadway has walkways for troops? Do you mean pedestrians?
@@Juho221 pedestrians = troops in Finland
@@Juho221 did you watch the video?
@@wederMaxim don’t worry. We have sauna tents and they are great for guerilla sauna operations.
Russia:threats countries to not join NATO
Other countries: reacts by joining NATO
Russia: no this isn't how you're supposed to play the game
UPDOOT!!!
they usually invade before they join nato (ask georgia and ukraine)
how do you explain-
countries: i'm going to join NATO
Russia: i'm gonna be mad if you do
countries: i joined despite no threat existing
Russia: oh, i'm about to give you a threat to worry about
countries: i joined because Russia threatened me
Russia: .
@@happyblt624 exactly. The dangerous period is when a country is making attempts to westernize but haven't formally joined or applied to join. Russia has a lot of incentive to attack countries like that
@@sinoroman The occupation by the USSR was terrible. Better safe than sorry.
I respect Finland’s policies and how they waited and did not provoke and just wanted to live in peace.
Me too. I think they joined NATO to avoid being invaded by NATO. Militarily they are still neutral and have no intention of getting involved in the war.
you stated it perfectly, its best to leave the Finns alone, they a peaceful people, that is until you mess with them, then you better stand aside, as the proverbial shit will hit the fan, just ask Ole Uncle Joe, he knew better than to tray and take all of Finland after getting kicked in the nutts, not once but twice, he decided taking some land and calling it a win was the best option.
I don’t think most people understand just how insane Finland is. Sure it’s a small country, sure there aren’t a lot of people, but Finland and it’s military are known for being fierce fighters. The only reason it collaborated with Russia was because they didn’t want to lose their borders, but they still inflicted heavy casualties on Russia when they last fought. The Finnish people are also very proud of being Finnish, I happened to know a Finnish guy who is traditionally from Finland who said he would go back and defend his country no matter what. Moral of the story is don’t fuck with Finland unless you want the smoke.
its because finland has never been the aggressor in any conflict. theres quite literally no reason for a finn *not* to want to defend their country, since all theyve ever wanted as a nation is peace and independence.
They didn't collaborate with Russia. They collaborated with the nazis
Yeahh
If you ask a swede what our military strategy for defending against russia is, they'd just say "finland"
@@innajankovic1749Yes and we are proud of it crybaby
😅😂😂
As a Dane, I do feel safer having Finland in the Alliance. Finns embody the "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" mentality.
As a Swede, I do feel safer having NATO protecting us. Swedes embody the ”Hope for the best, prepare for nothing” mentality, so we won’t be able to offer NATO much 🥲
@@XNeohaggenX and they didn’t have a huge border to protect until they joined NATO? Ukraine showed what it meant to be alone bordering Russia. How is it safer not being part of a defensive alliance when your neighbour obviously can and will use conventional arms to dominate weaker countries?
@A Memory of Light it's not safer lol, that's why Finland's decided to join. It even said so outright in the video 🤣
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We won't be in the alliance in a long time, maybe never. Turkey and Hungary are going to sit on this so they can milk it for dimes for all eternity.
The Finnish application to NATO is why I've been saying that Russia lost the war in Ukraine on day one. Even if Russia managed to completely defeat Ukraine (which they haven't), this strategic loss is so dramatic and stands in stark contrast to what Putin actually wanted. I think it is totally fair to say that Russia lost by failing to uphold their strategic goals.
Depends on the actions. If Russia completely stops trading with Finland, it will cause huge damage to it. If by some miracle capitalist Russia does it right, and not for profit, Finland will never join NATO.
@@wederMaxim Russia only gets like 5-10% of Finnish exports
@@wederMaxim Not gonna happen. Finland knows that it's only chance of being secure is joining NATO.
@@0816M3RC it will be destroyed before joining. If they keep trying. And in a very unlikely possibility that they manage to Russia will just be forced to have a war with NATO. That's all there is to it. It's better now then after being completely surrounded after all.
Which is funny because Russia doesn't need neither Finlands territory nor it's people. Finland is not Ucraine, finnish people aren't Russians. It's existence barely matters. To Russia if Finland is all just wiped off map it's still mission uccomplished. No NATO bases possible there after all. Frankly it feels like fins are trying to self destruct. Also. They were given freedom on basis of being neutral. Joining NATO means breaking that deal.
@@PutXi_Whipped okay bot
I have learned an awful lot through this & a few other Vids. Thank you for producing them
An intriguing analysis! The idea of Finland joining NATO and its potential implications on Russia's strategic balance is definitely worth exploring. It's fascinating how geopolitical dynamics can have such far-reaching consequences. Great video, keep up the thought-provoking content!
geopolitical economy report is another great show. makes this one look like childs play!
Sounds like fanboyism of US fascist global imperialism. I add fascism, because we now have government+media+corporations working as a single entity in NATOstan, both with their dreams or world domination, and their destruction of our nations history, culture and traditions, including the Göbbelian brainwashing system and the insane ideology they now force on our populations.
But hey, good luck with that fanboyism. Russia is the problem, right? We just can't let them live in peace, right?
the 1st 3 min make it sound like Finns have had an interest in attacking and dominating Russia..It sounds like Russian/old Soviet propaganda
Finland joined NATO, but that's all.
Finland is not about to let NATO come in and install nuclear missiles, build an invasion force, or construct all sorts of bases along the border. They want to make themselves less of a target, not more. They don't want to be the next Ukraine. Nobody does. So they won't make Ukraine's mistakes.
What Finland wants is for Sweden to become really strong, to discourage Russia from coming that direction.
Meanwhile Finland wants to be a strong but totally non-threatening country to separate the two sides.
And that is exactly what Russia wants too.
Finland and Russia want exactly the same thing, a strong but peaceful, non-threatening buffer zone, and they both know it. But they try to keep it as their little secret. They aren't really enemies, they're secret friends.
It's probably an apocryphal story, but a Finnish soldier was alleged to have said in 1939, "So many Soviets, where will we bury them all?!"
well i havent heard that one but one kinda similar after Winter War Solviet officer said "We got enough land to bury our death"
They didn’t. They made frozen scarecrows with them.
@@joku232 It was Nikita Hrutchev who said it. He became leader of CCCP .
Later on an American official is said of have asked about reports of Soviet soldiers in Finland, to which his Finnish counterpart is supposed to have said "Oh yes, they are buried over there."
“They are so many, and our country is so small, where will we find room to bury them all?” is the exact phrasing.
A large group of Russian soldiers in the border area in 1939 are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a small hill:
"One Finnish soldier is better than ten Russian".
The Russian commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the hill where Upon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence.
The voice once again calls out: "One Finn is better than one hundred Russian."
Furious, the Russian commander sends his next best 100 troops over the hill and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again Silence.
The calm Finnish voice calls out again: "One Finn is better than one thousand Russians from:
The enraged Russian commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the hill.
Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought...
Then silence.
Eventually one badly wounded Russian fighter crawls back over the hill and with his dying words tells his commander, "Don't send any more men!!! It's a TRAP! There are TWO of them!"
Thank you for sharing this very funny story Pythos!
Nice one. Better send in the Mobiks!
I've heard this joke in reference to every country on earth.
@@firstandlastname6194 Oh right, maybe you should check history of conflicts between Finland and Russia.
Nute Gunray: "This is getting out of hand! Now there are TWO of them!"
Master Yoda: "Always two there are; no more, no less."
Darth Finland, Darth Sweden: "But who is the Master and who is the Apprentice?"
the last 10 minutes were very revealing! Well done.
I really appreciate how well you talk, its amazing how you are able to twist the perspectives of the story(documentary) so that its like someone from finland is telling this story!!!!
What are you talking about
"They thought they were moving chess pieces but they were actually throwing dice"- Cuban crisis
usa has no interest in literally placing strategic sized hypersonic nuclear missiles on the fin border, close to Petersburg, to try to create a political crisis artificially.
there is 400 km (250 mi) from Petersburg to finnish border.
cuban missiles were 140 km (90 mi) from Florida.
they are just interested in the kola peninsula area: a total of 81.5 per cent of russian strategic maritime nuclear capabilities are concentrated in the northern fleet, and its home to systems such as the RS-24 YARS and Murmansk-BN electronic warfare system.
russia’s EW capabilities were on display during natos’s trident juncture 2018 exercise, when both norway and finland were the victims of russian GPS jamming and interference.
and places like new SLBM storage facility (69.114642° 33.525728°) that consist of a total of 50 storage bunkers, each with four storage bays, that potentially houses a total of 200 rsm-56 Bulava SLBMs.
rsm-56 Bulava is a Russian submarine-launched intercontinental ballistic missile. missile can carry between six and ten 150 kiloton warheads. it´s considered a key element of the russian armed forces' nuclear triad.
perhaps a pre-emptive first strike into nuclear missile storages with stealth f35´s, that carries tactical nuclear missile on them, designed for bunker-busting, in case things ever break down. or at least, that's what usa wants russia to obsess about.
Daaaang
@@Redmanticore 400km? Are you sure? That seems a bit much.
Edit: Its not even 150km away from the finnish border.
@CatusBrutus Yes
This crisis person knows what’s up
As a Finn, I can safely say what our mentality is: "We are not a threat. Leave us alone. But remember this... We. Will. Defend. Ourselves."
🇺🇦 ❤ 🇫🇮
Fins are pussie, ya’ll wont do shit 🤡🤣 I had a finnish girl for a while and she told me guys out there are pussies, scared to talk to them and overall weirdos.
Your country taught the Russians a harsh lesson in WW2 and, after over 80 years of preparation, would teach an even more rigorous class today.
Leave us alone and let us drink vodka in peace. Because we are the happiest nation in the world!))
Finland HAS done so and done it well.
Fitting that stupid Putin has now put his hometown in total danger from his own actions.
Finland did not take part in attacking Leningrad, annoying the Germans very much but the Finns also knew the war would eventually end and Russia would remain a next door neighbourg.
Excellent information.
Fun fact Geography Now tried to explain Finland and got their video age restricted
The age restriction got removed if im not mistaken
@GZW_Tupid It was immensely petty that it happened at all.
That's hilarious though: I live in a age restricted country. 😆 Not everyone can say that! (I know YT content policies are a complete mess and creators are treated unfairly and all of that. I recognize there's a real problem and I'm not minimizing that at all, but there IS a comical aspect to this particular instance.)
orc trolls do that.
I guess Finland too sexy 😉
As a Finn, this is an excellent video that summarizes our situation extremely well. Good work!
Here's a fun fact about the Russian invasion of Sweden back in 1808:
The Russians had such an extensive network of spies operating in Finland that they had more accurate maps of the country than the Swedes, who'd ruled Finland for 600+ years 😆
Yeah... As a Swede, the more I learn about Sweden's so-called "Stormaktstid" ("Time as a Great Power"), the more convinced I grow that it really should be called our "Kassa Kolonialförsök" ("crappy colonial attempt").
At least we've got your back now, for what it's worth...
Let's get terms straight: Sweden *colonized* Finland for centuries.
@@tob564 yeah, sweden colonized and ruled finland.
Did you know that Sweden deposed its then King Gustav IV Adolph and his son Gustav.
@@tob564 potato potato
extremely good information thank you
The best analysis i have heard on UA-cam channel.
Finland is now, officially, the 31st member of the NATO Alliance. This video is now even more relevant, a handful of months after it was posted.
31st member and one of 30 who rely on the one member who actually matters.....NATO is America....lets be honest.
@@illusionyx907 Please give us your top secret source of Russian targeting data, please. The CIA would be very interested.
@@illusionyx907 In nuclear war, it matters not if your the target or not, the fallout alone will likely kill the majority of the entire world.
@@mdw546 Just 1 or 2 nukes dropped can ensure MAD so yeah it really doesn't matter
@@illusionyx907 Please target them on more countries so they can join NATO as well
What you miss in this video, is that you should clarify some things. Mainly the fact that even when Finland was a part of Russian empire 1809-1917, the Russian laws were not valid in Finland because Finland´s legal system from Swedish rule was still kept in use. Also during the time Finland was officially known as Grand Duchy of Finland which legally an autonomous area and was ruled by Finnish nobility but it had a governor-general appointed by the Russian Czar.
In short:
Finland was part of Russian empire but not part of Russia.
Edit: Added a word "area" which was missing
Russia had Finland exactly where it wanted it. If it wanted to incorporate it, they could've done that and was about to do before the revolution.
Autonomy
Finland founded russia ?
And we shot the most dictator like of the governors in late 1800s.
Also, sounds weird to say "Swedish rule". Finland was just apart of Sweden and had been for over 600 years by the time Russia took over. It wasn't some colony of Sweden lol.
my grandfather fought 13 years and told he never was afraid, as in frozen forest at night, in Finland. I have a huge respect for Finns
This aged like fine wine with Sweden's added flavor.
Aged? This video is made after Russia invaded Ukraine
@@nickinurse6433 Aged well, because not only did Finland join NATO, but Sweden did too. A double whammy.
It didnt even scratched Russia. Why would it anyway? Russia is the strongest economy in Europe at this moment and it reached practically all its goals in Ukraine. 😂😂😂
@@JohnSmith-xz5nb You are right about not scratching Russia by merely joining a defensive alliance out of their own volition. That's how it should be and is. Yet Russia takes it as a threat to their aggressively invasive imperialistic regime.
@@JohnSmith-xz5nb Meth head
Sweden really only stayed out of NATO due to Finland's position. It was an open secret that we'd join if they joined. In a very real way the decision was made in Helsinki for both countries.
This. Sweden and finland were just waiting opening To join Nato. Sweden knew this, finland knew this and Nato knew this.
Didnt russia know this?
Finland and Sweden has had a very hush hush history of cooperation. The Swedish Volunteer Force was a thing, and we took in refugees during several points in history.
I totally agree. We Finns and Swedes stick together, for foreigners it is maybe not as obvious, as there really has been no need to openly discuss or explain it to the world. Those who know, know.
To a certain extent yes, but remember that America and Sweden have a love-hate relatiinship. They didn't embargo us between 1973 and 1987 without reason.
Here I thought it was made with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
My grandmother is Finnish and grew up in what became Russian territory after the invasion. She had to flee with her family in the middle of the night when she was a teenager
Same here, my grandmother and grandfathers families fled from Karelia to Sweden in the middle of the night, She used to tell me about it all the time when i was a kid sleeping over at her place
Do not translate!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପିତ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତୁମେ ମରିବ, ଅଭିଶାପକୁ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସବସ୍କ୍ରାଇବ କରିବା .....
My grandmother has a similar story, she remembers being pulled by her mother on a sled on her 4th birthday fleeing with his mother and siblings from Viipuri to Helsinki during heavy bombings. She still remembers it clearly almost 80 years afterwards.
The Moscow Duchy has always been a power centralizing and expansionist state.
So my grandmother too. They lived in Finland Karelia ishtmus. So close to an old Russian border (25km) (16miles?). St Petersburg (old Leningrad) 70km (43miles) from there. When i was a kid i always listen fancy stories from old finnish Karelian 😊😊
Man. I love the “do no harm but take no shit” attitude of Finland and the Finns.
Finns don’t mess around when it comes to getting invaded. Even in their old age. My great grandmother was pretty scary.
Thank you so much! Your geostoric content is peerless on UA-cam.
That's because it is American propaganda... even quoting the Rand Corporation!
@@mandrews1245Propaganda of what? Of telling the history of Finland, how russians invaded and how they gained great relations with the west? .. .
In advance of NATO membership, the UK entered a mutual defence pact with Finland and Sweden providing them with a nuclear umbrella.
Didnt an ex general say that we would need our anti missile ship on the Thames 24/7 to stop London being nuked to hell? It's not there atm... 😂
@@AmateurHEROduelist are you delusional? The MAD doctrine means the Russians would never nuke us and we would never nuke them, but we can still threaten them, besides Russias nukes could be shot down by many nato members before it gets to London.
@@dariomladenovski7047 One Russian nuke and Russia is gone.
@@dariomladenovski7047 the point is the UK can nuke back though
@@dariomladenovski7047 one Russian nuke and Russia is gone.
I heard a story once about a Swedish naval attaché that was sent to America. So when he came back to Sweden he begged the prime minister about that Sweden has to get an aircraft carrier. The prime minister then responded: “We already have the Worlds biggest aircraft carrier, Gotland”.
Gotland can't go anywhere though.
@@bigcoolviking where would you like to go in your aircraft carrier in the glorified lake that is the baltic sea?
@@nisu_unn I've sailed the Baltic, it is huge, Been to Visby too as it happens, the Capitol. Its just another island.
@@bigcoolviking Baltic sea is pretty huge
@@bigcoolviking not like Sweden has the same Global role as the US though.
A regional natural aircraft carrier is OP for Swedish needs.
Small correction: Sweden didn't stop all wars after 1809. In 1814 there was a very short campaign against Norway to make them agree to the union, which in turn came about after an even shorter conflict with Denmark in 1813.
Brilliant, thank you!
I think this can be greatly described with "But everything changed when the Russian Federation attacked."
Ed: Wtf is this comment section.
Underrated comment
The russians wish they were as competant as the fire nation
If the Air Nomads, Earth Kingdom and Water Tribes had what Ukraine has they would have brutalized the Fire Nation in a month!!!
@@LS-jv9hp lmao
The USA installed a puppet government in 2014 overthrowing the elected government. The east of Ukraine said no to this and tried to separate.
Ukraine sent in there military to crush the people killing/murdering there own.
The people took up arms in self defense and needed help. Russia offered help.
Ukraine ended up in a civil war with Russia helping the people against a tyrannical puppet government installed by the USA.
The fighting was supposed to stop with the Minsk accords.
Ukraine broke the Minsk accords many times.
Ukraine kept shelling the peoples republics killing civilians.
In 2022 of Feb Russia show a huge build up of the Ukrainian army getting ready to attack the peoples republics.
Russia lunched its Special Military Ops to protect the people from the aggression the the Ukrainian government.
The conflict is not the sole fault nor sole responsibility of the Russia.
The USA and Ukrainian government are just as responsibility and guilty.
There's three guilty party's there USA, Ukrainian government and Russia.
The victims are the Ukrainian people in all of Ukrainian. Being used as puppets in a geopolitical chess game. By the USA to fight a proxy war in Ukraine against Russia.
I went to the Russia/Finland border last summer with some friends! The Finns have a restricted zone on their side which you can only enter with the right documents, but some parts of this zone consist only of small fields so you're still able to see the Russian treeline. Border patrol guys are really alert, they drove up to us about 30 seconds after us having parked the car, but the guy was cool about us being there.
u moved from finland to russia or what
Of course the Fins are cool there not animals there defending what’s theirs and are not looking to invade
@@juanelorriaga2840 savage, i love it. f**** Putin
@@juanelorriaga2840 That's xenophobia
In kirkenes, Norway you can walk right up to the border. but I would not recomend crossing it
The USMC has in Norway prepositioned the equipment for equipping an Expeditionary Brigade
My fav video fr watched it at least 3 times now
Sweden will NEVER abandon finland again.
it was a mistake to not get involved directly back in ww2 to help out officially when the soviets attacked, but i am glad that there was willingness in people to help out anyway, and that sweden helped out finland unofficially.
Finland is our nordic brothers, and you can count on your brothers this time.
The Finns will probably be grateful, but they still hate you for beating them in every major winter sport anyway 😅
Sweden will cease to exist soon anyway- “refugees” now rule the Swedes. Demographics is destiny.
Will you turn your backs to Norway again though?
@@TheCoffeeSquirel In a heart beat! Screw you guys. "Sincerely, Sweden".
It was far from a mistake. We did the best thing we could've done.
The total war concept of Finland is interesting and frightening at the same time - it still exists to this day. Finland is a sleeper when it comes to military power and pure war.
What does sleeper mean in this context?
@@erikafinland2162 They dont act big and powerful but when war comes they pack a punch. Take the Finnish Winter War for example
Jajajajajajajajajajajajjajajajajajajajajjajajajajajaajajaajajajajjajajajajajjajaj lmao
Finland will get rocked.
People desperate people will do desperate things. There are world-ending weapons in Russia. Why provoke them?
What's with this constant poking of the bear.
People always say that Prussia was the army with a nation. But the more I think on it, I feel the same may apply to Finland. The main difference is, Finland will probably never move first. They'd be like a unbreakable wall that Russia would be desperately trying to smash through.
If it were in dnd terms, Russia attacking Finland would be them rolling a 1 on a d20. They would be so thoroughly defeated and humiliated it would make the red army’s losses in the winter war look like a joke.
Really???
what??? 😂🤣😂😅🤣
Finland stole illigal land from russia in 1920 because they tought its an good opportunity because russia was in a civilwar, after russians wanted the land back or as an exchange the land from saintpetersburg they refused and even after the winterwar did the fins attack russia and broke even the peace treaty
@@Brimst0ne6800the loses of the winterwar comes from nikita khrushchev to destroy the stalincult, its funny because countless finish and russian historyans proof it included other sources but the west rather take hes numbers to show the Red army is weak
This is such good content.
"If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready" seems to be Finland's national motto...
meanwhile canada lets its navy and military mothball...pathetic.
If so, THEY stole it from Mother Nature. Every dopey wombat understands that from birth. YOU did, too! How else would you know to pucker up and head for the nearest nipple a moment after birth? (with nary a question about the brand-name/'nationality'/price/politics/religion/etc. of said nipple.)
Somehow, along the way, we've lost track of life's realities. And NOT for the better.
We got a lot of great sayings.
I know that as a finn my opinion is kinda biased, but I just wanted to thank you for mentioning in your video that Finland didn't have any other choise but to join with Germany in order to keep our independece. A lot of people just say we were like nazis and that we sided with the bad guys but they don't see the bigger picture.
That’s true about many countries that joined Germany in WWII, and it‘s quite sad that such a small amount of people care to understand.
I always thought that Hitler trying to push into Soviet Territory and hold it was a terrible decision, which it was, considering how many Germans died to the Russian Winter. But I never knew that it was also probably to force 2 fronts with Finland pushing from their end. Guess he had no choice?
Anyways, Had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbour, bringing the USA into it, Germany and it's allies could have potentially won WW2 albeit without being able to successfully invade the UK. In that timeline, you would have joined the good guys - since history is written by the victors.
People also don't see the bigger picture that the Nazi's rose to power because of the treaty of Versailles from WW1. Everyone involved in that basically created the Nazi party with how much they punished Germany.
The whole "Nazi" thing is kinda idiotic anyway.
A huge majority of people at that time didn't like the Jews. Hitler literally had a gigantic portrait of Henry Ford behind him at his desk at his office. Ford was one of Hitlers idols.
Henry Ford literally wrote books on how terrible Jews are and why we should kill them all - and you'd get a free book for every Ford you bought. Like a brochure for your car. Just instead of explaining how it works, you're told that you should kill Jews and that they are evil.
And Ford is praised like a god by Americans.
Hitler literally praising Americans and their behaviour towards Jews in his book "Mein Kampf" and saying it was his inspiration. And most of the Nazi leadership openly saying that they only became anti-Semitic, because of the Americans and what those said about the Jews. Henry Ford's "The international Jew" series likely being the biggest influence, because it's named so often.
Jews were disliked everywhere in the world at that time.
Hitler basically just did what the others wanted to do - in addition to the war.
@@stevenlang9849 wow, I didn't know that. Do you also know the reason why jews were so universally disliked then? It just seems insane to me that they could go from that to Elite Zionists that control a huge portion of the world.
Well, not Nazis.
The government was filled with warmongeres and the state was very fascistic, with stuff like the Lapua movement's demands being accepted and the left opposition forced completely underground (The social democrats were excluded from this, which makes you wonder how closely they'll align with fascists.), not to mention how many reds we put into concentration camps (offical information of this doesn't exist, documents having gotten either destroyed or 'going missing'. We only know about the camps from officer and soldier testimonies, but also from their and the prisoners' journals).
Don't also forget that we attacked first in the 20s by the tribal wars. 'Unifying our cultural and lingual brothers' my ass.
When the 1939 demands came for an exchange of land, we almost accepted the demands. It was a small clique formed from the national coalition and others that in the end refused the deal, giving us an ultimatum, which was once again refused.
After three months of fighting and in the end conceding to prevent any more damages, we were still at an governmental level in a state of war.
Whoch makes the continuation war thing a bit b*llshitty for me, cause because the country was at a state of war, the army was effectively in control. 'Armeijahallitus' it was called.
This enabled generals of the army, Including Mannerheim, to sign a treaty with Hitler's germany for an invasion of the soviets. Mind you this was done without the consent of the parliment, which after war was declared was forced to go with it.
The fact that our early 20th century history is so whitewashed (double meaning here), and how that whitewashed narrative is even pushed today.
I mean, who cares about Häyhä, or 'hakkaa päälle, pohjan poika'. This isn't the 30s, stop pretending it is.
Good Work
Enjoyed this run down of things very much, was a bit surprised at the end when you tried to flog me something
Sponsors are necessary for these channels to keep making fire content like this!
Probably the most detailed explanation of the Finnish and Russian conflict and how Finland has adapted. Well done!
@Rico Thampaty What you just wrote was not true. The Stalin's purge part was not wrong, but not the whole picture.
@Rico Thampaty nope not a kingdom. But a Grand Duchy 1808 - 1917. The Russian zar was the Grand Duke of the Grand Duchy of Finland besides being the zar of the Russian Empire. Finland was granted autonomy, own legislation and Parliament. But every new zar increased the russification 🤬🤬🤬
@Rico Thampaty No. The russian military was poorly trained and equiped - just like they are now. Eggheads like that don't learn from their mistakes.
Nope, it's not precise explanation of relations. Tricky manipulative twist of historical events turning Russia from calm neighbor to etrrnal enemy. Which isn't true. Mannerheim was graduated from russian military school. Did author ever mentioned that or other very important, but inconvenient to narrative facts?
@ricothampaty4345 Not exactly true. Many Soviets also died due to not having proper equipment, and freezing to death.
Many Ukrainians have fled to Finland to be safe. Tells you something about how well Finland is protected by being ready to defend against Russia for decades. Even when Finland has been threatened, we've just kept calm. We are ready, and we have been for generations, to defend ourselves and now we have even more outside help to keep our Country safe.
Edit: Even Russians were flooding to Finland, when the war in Ukraine broke out.
the war in ukraine broke out in 2014, when kiev attacked their own citizens
and russia has more ukrainian refugees than any other country, about 3 million. more than all of central/eastern europe combined.
@@youtubeuser206 Ok , vanya . You can take 15 rubles from the table.
@@youtubeuser206 Yeah I'm sure the gun at the back of their heads definitely made them very motivated to move to Russia.
@@youtubeuser206 Hello Russian bot!
good information great video
Great lesson never underestimate a rival.
My grandmother is from Karelia, which today is part of Russia. In the Winter War, her father was an officer in the Finnish army. At the end of the War, all officers had to be given over to the Russian to be trialed in Russia. He fled to Venezuela though, taking my grandmother with him. She learned Spanish and grew up there. She then went back to Finnland. She found my grandfather who is g
German and she died a few years ago in Hannover. She didn't speak a single word of Spanish anymore and she never revisited Karelia again.
Yes there are no happy tales from Karjala anymore. It used to be our industrial hub but now it is rusty forgotten border state with people who have no connection to the land. Population was replaced completely. My former teacher was from there and had to abandon her home. She did not tell us much but even as child I could tell it was very hard topic for her.
You grandfather german?
The part about officers being trialed in Russia is not true. Only 8 FInnish politicians were ever trialed for "Responsibility for the war" or war crimes. That's all.
No Finnish officers were trialed in the USSR nor in Finland. Some were afraid they would, in case the USSR managed to gain power in Finland. Therefore some officers left the country just to be sure.
My grandmother is also from Karjala, but was only a kid during the war. She is also a survivor of bombing of Elisenvaara when Russian airforce bombed and strafed the civilians being evacuated.
Russia: Don't join NATO! I'll protect you.
Finland, Baltic States: Protect us from what?
Russia: From what I'll do if you join NATO.
Ukraine never joined Nato and Russia¨never touched the baltic states.
@@oletoustrup8572 Russia never touched the Baltic states, because they are already NATO members. Ukraine has applied to join NATO since the invasion. NATO is the best protection from Russian attack.
“Why Finland joining NATO checkmates Russia”
Is Finland also Bobby Fischer?
Canadian here! Much love to our Finn friends! And to any Russian citizen reading this, just know that I, don’t blame you for what’s happening. Not even your soldiers. It’s your government who I blame completely.
The sad part is , NATO pushing on Russia's borders had nothing to do with Ukraine. That was an excuse for Putin to take the Black Sea. Now they have missile launching sites larger than anything you've ever seen on the south east coast of Crimea. Putin is strengthening is position in the middle-east, that's the real motive .
I think latest thing is that you have to secure Alaska first :)
@@jammbamm4024 nah. America can keep Alaska. We have no need for more land. We got plenty of it
The 1500 artillery systems includes some 700+ mortars, which some countries don't include in the same statistics. It's still a lot, of course, even if you count it as 700+ artillery systems and 700+ mortars separately.
Hämäläinen perusjuntti
If we are going to be comma fuckers it's gonna be larger now that Finland utilized it's additional buy option from last contract with South-Korea to buy additional 48 K9 Thunders
@@xYarbx Just wait till they start doing that _weird colon_ stuff
@@WackadoodleMalarkey they could fire K9s in line simultaneously to destroy an larger area
Its an enormous size of the artillery for such a small country, but definitely needed for a massive force Finland is capable to mobilize in the case of war.
Finnish army is very impressive!
Here after Turkey's parliament ratified Finland's NATO application 🇫🇮
The true test of NATO will come if Russian or one of their allied nations decides to attack a NATO member country. If NATO fails to respond properly, then NATO will fall apart quickly.
As a Turk, I hope we will one day get rid of the dictators and, aim for reaching at least the levels of democracy as in Finland today; and then we will prosper together as an alliance. But for now, we have a m.f. dictator called Tayyip Erdoğan 🇹🇷 😢 🇫🇮
Fuck yeah!
hell yeah! Suomi perkele!
Yessirrr!
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job/maps enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Hypothetically speaking ( N.A.T.O. ) is a good concept. But it's all for show.
NATO isn't just for show. No NATO country has ever been invaded.
"We are not Swedes, we do not want to be Russians. So let's be Finns."
-Motto of the Finnish independence movement against Russia
What would that mean? That "Finns" are rather an artificial construct than something naturally existing prior? You cannot "let's be ***" something you already are.
Quite clever! ;-)
And now Ukrainian fascists saying that Russains aren't Slavs but Finns. And sine Finns decided to throw away their freedom, they have to follow narrative. Time to find a new name Finns.
@@morzh1978 Quite reductive reasoning. If everything must exist as it was prior, naturally, we'd have to go back to Pangean borders when most of Earth's land mass (7 continents) was large and almost contiguous.
And we didn't follow that wisdom, pity
I visited Finland in 2015 for a world gymnastics event and we went to the Suomenlinna military fortress on an island just outside Helsinki. Such fascinating piece of history! We also almost accidentally stayed on the train in Helsinki too long and ended up in St. Petersburg. 😬
Do not translate!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପିତ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତୁମେ ମରିବ, ଅଭିଶାପକୁ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସବସ୍କ୍ରାଇବ କରିବା .....
Suomalainen but yep! I adore Finland and am planning to move in my boyfriend who lives there! :>
@@ApocalypticAnarchy01 what? he wasnt trying to type suomalainen, the name of the fortress just looks vaguely similar to it. have fun in finland though
@@ttvichannel No
The border with Russia has a rail line and a road just inside Russia. Russia keeps nuclear assets in a location served by these. If the Finns see Russia making a move to the facility they will destroy the road and rail line then dig in for a fight.
Heyhey short question, I'm following your page here and the one on nebula, but I'm trying to cut down my online time severely over the next two years. I was wondering if you offer something like DVDs or other offline options? If not that's okay too just curious
America's logistical prowess combined with the Russian territorial neighbors of Nato and the Fin-Swede realization of how bad things can get and technology could really get a grip-hold of Russia's plans for expansionism if they decide to look at things analytically and in a swift but unprovoking manner.
Lol
@@littlebigcommentaries9833 lol lol?
im a dual citizen finnish american done my conscript service in finland... lived all over the world... south east asia, south america north america etc..... i moved back to finland in 2018 and will never leave... SUOMI!!
have fun paying 50% tax like a slave
@@mile_381 slaves dont pay taxes. dumb comment
I know at least a century or so ago Finland had a land access to the Arctic Ocean. But today that land corridor that Finland owned now belongs to Norway, even though Finland never seems to have been fought with or been in any kind of fight with Norway. Finland has fought with its Russian neighbors throughout the 20th century.
@@michaelverbakel7632 The arctic sea corridor was taken by the sovjet union
@@michaelverbakel7632 You might be confused. Where in today's Norway would such corridor have been? I think the corridor you're talking about is now in Russia. Finland lost a notable chunk of land in there to Soviet Union in 1930's or 1940's.
A certain bear in the remote Finnish forest who was featured in a UA-cam video can confirm, it is extremely dangerous to mess with the Fins.
When they come at you while muttering “Perkele”, its best to turn around and run.
Haha, I saw that clip too😅
especially with a broom!~
Oh no, did the bear send a Linux pull request that breaks userspace?
as a Canadian, I learned Finland is far from docile, great respect for Finns. great video !
Just as a little sidenote, this "poseidon torpedo" doesn't exist. Or more pecisly, there might be a torpedo they call "poseidon" but if it exists the capabilities of the torpedo are, to say the least, greatly exaggerated. No, detonating a 100 Megaton nuclear explosion inside coastal waters will NOT generate a tsunami much less a mega tsunami. First of all the power of the explosion will be traveling in all directions so only a realticly small portion of that power will actually drive water towards the coast. But even if the russians managed to make a magical shaped nuclear explosive device, 100 megatonnes of tnt isn't even close to the power needed to generate a tsunami. People tend to underestimate just how much power is actually in natural phenomena. Your average raincloud has 100 megatonnes of tnt worth of power in it. The reason why rainclouds don't level cities with their power is because the energy is diffused over a great area, most of the energy is being discharged right back into the weather system and the energy discharge that is reaching the ground (aka, the rain) is discharged slowly and over a wide area.
Austria has mandatory military service (and optional social service) to this day aswell, with an official military of merly 35k soldiers, but 1mio in reserve given 1 out of 9 Austrians served for 6-12 months.
i cant for the life of me see a reason to get rid of this policy, it allows you to cheap out on core systems to an insane degree, 18 year olds are perfect for this, half of them serve the military, wich was really fun and i got quite physically fit, while the other half reduce the cost in most areas of social work, they work in hospitals, half of the ambulance staff, family supporting work, eldery work, immigrant work,... like a lot and we all earn shit haha but thats not so bad given they all still live at home and will start out their first job or university right after, also everyone doing it takes a lot of pride in doing so equally getting respect and applause in return from everyone around, because we all know this allows us to cheap out, while still upkeeping a high quality standard.
especially now this system is neat to have in place, i bet my ass germany regrets getting rid of it in 2011 haha.
As someone whose country also has mandatory military service for men, I take my hat off to the people of Finland. Much love from Singapore
@Rico Thampaty Tell that to the Ukrainian people
"Bro, it's just for our propaganda and to induce fear into you, but they'd never actually do it"
Idiot
@Rico Thampaty Conscription, at least the Finnish version, is defence on the cheap. Conscripts are paid a daily allowance, which buys a few beers and some smokes. No one complains because it's what everyone does.
@Rico Thampaty 🤡
@Rico Thampaty you must be fun at parties
@@peabase yeah it's similar here. Conscription keeps military spending way down. My monthly allowance during my full time service was less than what a McDonalds server earns lol. The rest of our defence budget from what I know of, goes to hardware
This makes me feel patriotic towards Finland, and I'm bloody scottish
Similar colors.
@@AnoNymInvestor blue, yellow and green?
This video made you feel patriotic towards Finland? Lmao
Funny coinsidence, Scotland has been the one country on my mind the most during the last week, when I've studied your history and watched Scottish movies etc. 😊 And I've felt a surprisingly strong feeling that we have something very much in common. The same passion for the beautiful power in nature and the patriotism. Got a feeling I really would love to stay there for a while. And similarities in the language are noticeable ( i'm a Swedish speaking Finn). The same colours in our flag. Your spirit feels like here at home a little, although Finns don't easily show them in public. 😊 All my love to you Scots from a snowy Finland ❤❤
@@erikafinland2162 Well Scotland is somewhat close in geography and climate. Same reason why Canadians and Scandinavians tend to be good chums. They live in the cold, eat similar food, and have the same "I don't care about yall" attitude when it comes to politics. Just good neighbors in general.
Very interesting and informative.
Obviously, NATO, the US Navy, et al, are fully aware of everything in this film and have effective counter-strategy to neuter Russia's armed forces, no matter what form they take.
Not worried.
Real good video.
As a person that's terrible with geography, I really really appreciate the map visuals. They make these subjects much more approachable for me.
Pretty bad or at least way subpar maps tho
average American
Even I, a Finn who has a good grip on what this corner of the world looks like, appreciated the visuals. Even knowing where everything is, I think it made it a lot easier to understand what everything that's being said really would mean in practice and get a deeper understanding of the situation
@@venlakirahvi mitkäs on mietteet nykytilanteesta ? Kyselen tällasena average opiskelijana…😂
heard of globe?
As a neighbour to Finland and having visited their country multiple times I can concur that they are highly practical and sensible people. They have a bunker under almost every house and they have a lot of tunnels through out their entire country. All their infrastucture, even in the rural areas is generally well maintained. The people themselves are trustworthy and reliable when it comes to business dealings.
Reminds me of district 13 with all the tunnels
@@Eepi Fact: On the internet a fact is made up every second.
I wish I had a bunker under my house…
@@Eepi väestönsuoja on pakollinen tila jokaisessa kerrostalossa mutta siihen se jääkin.
Cringe
Hello! I really fond this video interesting. Could You provide the sources used. I need them for a project
And now as of March 7, 2024, Sweden has officially joined NATO!!!
Many mentions of how vulnerable the location of Saint Petersburg is, but not the reason for that location: it was intentionally founded on top of a Swedish outpost in 1703. It was a strategic point, a way to move in and assert power over newly conquered areas. Successfully so, going on 320 years now.
Pyotr Velikiy got his his Window on the West.
Huh, I thought St. Petersburg would've been a lot older than that. Would never have guessed that Albany, NY is older than St. Petersburg.
@@john_sensei_ii When a woman gets married and changes her name that that does mean her age begins at that point.
It was founded on indigenous Finnic land
@@john_sensei_ii Considering that Slavs colonized Russia from Finnic people around the same time Western Europeans were colonizing the new world, it makes sense for these places to be so young.
I met a Finnish man in the US several years ago. We had an interesting conversation about the military. All young men are expected to serve in the military. They go for training for up to 5 1/2 months and then go to annual meetings, much like our National Guard and Reserve units in the US.
It's up to a year or 347 days and the shortest time possible is 165 days.
Here in Oz was called 'Nasho'. I refused to go because I ALWAYS choose my own enemies, for my own reasons. I DID volunteer to go to Vietnam (with the intention of deserting and fighting for the Vietcong, who were defending THEIR country), but got a reply from the military which said that anyone stupid enough to volunteer was too stupid to be in their army. Oh well.....
@@dabbbles 😂😂
@@Emannn835 It gets better! My brother, already IN the army for 5 years (for the free uni education on full pay!) also volunteered to go to Vietnam (for the 30% pay rise). They told HIM: 'don't be stupid! We've just spent over $2 mil. educating you! There's NO way we're allowing you ANYwhere the bullets are flying!' (True story.)
Damn, that's interesting. I wonder why the military sucks in Mexico? I've never met anyone (anyone that wasn't a soldier already) that wanted to be a soldier or that was even in military academy. lol
2:30 that horse has seen some things...
Que reflexão incrível!
Given what a Finnish moose hunter did to the Soviets in a hundred days during the Winter War, I got good odds on the Finns; once again an amazing video, great work
Simo Häyhä
Do not translate!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପିତ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତୁମେ ମରିବ, ଅଭିଶାପକୁ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସବସ୍କ୍ରାଇବ କରିବା .....
@@ttvichannel there is a dead popeyes cashier behind where i live
@@crazyjoedavola7493 The white death.
@@ttvichannel Well luckily I wear my sacred ward, the VPN!! Curse me all the way you want! Won't sub to your channel anyways. XD Good luck with your horrible advert campaign. Flagged.
correction: Sweden, after the 1808-09 war when it lost Finland to Russia did fight one more war before becoming ever neutral: former Napoleonic Marshall of France Bernadotte, now Crown Prince Carl Johan, led the Swedes on the side of the anti-French alliance in 1813-14, taking part in the 1813 German campaign and securing Norway from Denmark in following year. His descendants, the House of Bernadotte, hold the Swedish throne to this day.
16:40 "could directly Thrweathen" 😂
Lore, if you're going to mention Finland's conflict with the Soviet Union during WW2 then it's probably important to note that their "alliance" with Germany was part of one of the greatest uno reverse cards in history by the Finnish President Risto Ryti. Essentially Finland's alliance with Germany had the very specific condition that it would only be upheld for as long as Risto Ryti was President which is precisely why not long after Risto Ryti resigned from the role and allowed his successor to forge a non-aggression pact with Russia. Of course, the end result of this was the Soviets calling for the man to be imprisoned for his "war crimes" while Finland immortalised the guy as a hero.
I can only assume there's a statue of him in Helsinki somewhere with some seriously massive balls.
That "personal guarantee" was only near the end to convince reluctant Hitler to divert weapons and other aid to help stop the summer '44 offensive. After the immediate threat had been thwarted, Ryti resigned.
What a nice distortion of history.
@@abrvalg321 What happened then?
Finland was caught in a vice - PERIOD. However Germany was an old ally of the Finnish elite. NOT Nazi Germany. On a scale of 1-10 I would rank Communism as the greatest scourge this earth has ever seen. Nazi Germany does not even come close to the destruction wrought on man by Marxian Communism. Today, while they do not adhere to Marxist ideology, the globalist use Marxist tactics to control you and brainwash you. The problem with Finland during WWII was that Sweden remained neutral and therefore there was no means by which the West could help them. That is why Churchill was so upset at the debacle in Norway and always desired an attempt ( Operation Jupiter ) to invade Norway and then hopefully compel Finland to switch sides or opt out of the war altogether. The problem was, Jupiter planning became a fiasco because the Soviets would not help. Therefore Jupiter became nothing more than a deception plan. What people do not understand is that the Bolsheviks / Soviets ALWAYS had designs on Finland and only attacked in 1940 because their internal coup failed to materialize. Stalin planned to take Finland the way he occupied the Baltic countries. This by building up their respective Comintern Communist parties and then mounting a coup. Those mounting the coup would then politely ask the assistance of the USSR to intervene. The USSR then NEVER leaves. It did not work, so Stalin attacked. When that did not work out as planned either, he once again bolstered Communists within Finland. So Finland has always, to some extent been a puppet of the USSR. When the USSR fell on its ass Finland remained a , to a large degree, a Communist state. That is why their supreme stupidity is being revealed now. It's pay back time. They are one of the few European countriest to continue to maintain a statue and park devoted to the lying mass murderer and moron Lenin. Again, what came first the chicken or the egg? Well, Communism came first THEN National Socialism. Hitler learned from the mistakes of Lenin and Trotsky and their NEP, and created a Communism of his own. Not a globalist, internationalist ideology but a NATIONAL one that attempted to fix the unfixable. The greatest LIE in history is that the NSDAP was a RIGHT-WING organization. That was a LIE begun by Klara Zetkin's Anti-Fascist organization set up by the Comintern in the 1920s because they were terrified of their somewhat similar competition.
@@benedict6880 Evil Stalin forgave Hitler's puppets. And Hitler's puppets did not understand this, did not appreciate it.
At 6:00 you missed the fact that the soviets also demanded that finland dismantle all defenses in the karelian isthmus which would have given the soviets a free route all the way to helsinki
he is suspiciously Russian friendly , propaganda friendly and enemy of truth
noyp
just like how they took all of Ukraine's nuclear weapons and promised "not to invade"
Russian consulate in ahvenanmaa/åland should be removed immediately.
@@user-wb7bq1ih5e what "nope"?
I welcome Sweden and Finland in our NATO family. I hope more countries join NATO like for example Switzerland, Austria, Cyprus, Georgia, Ireland, Kosovo, Israel, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Monaco, San Marino and off course also Ukraine.
Austria and Cyprus cannot join Nato even in their wildest dreams. They know it
@@zottirgen I understand that your leader Erdogan will not agree on Cyprus. But why not Austria?
This man speaks at 2x speed and still manages to produce a full verbose essay.
Just FYI: The last war Sweden ever fought was not the Napoleonic wars, but a short war against Norway in 1814 to force Norway to join a union with Sweden
Exactly
I was about to say that too xD
What about Sweden invading Aaland in 1918?
@@johnmcgovern5372 Åland belong to Finland, but everyone talk Swedish. Åland did belong to Sweden til 1809, before Finland got it. Back in 1918 durin WW1, Russia occupied Åland. Hence why first Sweden, and later Germany invaded it.
@@johnmcgovern5372 "Invading", no. The majority of the population wanted to be a part of Sweden(they had a vote with over 95% of the population voting for leaving Finland and joining Sweden), so they asked the Swedes to come over and protect their interests until they became a part of Sweden(They still speak Swedish to this day) Then Sweden and Finland made a deal with the help of the League of Nations. Which is often said to be the only thing League of Nations got done during it's lifespan. The deal was for the island to continue govern itself but still technically be Finnish. It's a very fascinating story.
I'm a 2nd Lieutenant (Vänrikki) of the reserves in the Finnish Defence Force. This is very good content, thank you. Also, thanks to all Nato-member countries who welcomed us into the Alliance. For the first time since the service, I feel like we are finally not alone against the Russians, if they ever attack Finland again. Take care, everyone.
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You fools have no clue that you are being used as pawns.
First LOL on everything you wrote and second LOL for you thinking you are safe from Russia. And congrats entering most genocide alliance ever this planet see, now you can attack and kill everyone who don't want US capitalism in his own country and attack countries who have more resources than US and rest of NATO. And one question for you lieutenant why NATO forces guard the fields of poppy used for the production of heroin in Afghanistan??? And one more thing, how many countries Russia attack in last 40 years and how many civilians killed by Russia and same question is for NATO alliance...
Bravo to the Finns and welcome. I'm a lover of your composer Sibelius. Glad to have you in the Alliance.
Like Ukraine, do you think they had a reason to attack you before you were a part of NATO? Like... for 80 years they haven't attacked you guys right? And now they have more than enough reason to target you with nukes... how does making yourself a legitimate nuclear weapons target make your country safer? You're safer now because if the Russians nuke you... NATO will defend your nuclear wasteland with... NATO nukes. Europe is apparently full of strategic genius. How many World Wars will it take to get that point across...
A minor correction: the city was named "Viipuru", not "Vyborg", when it was still under Finland's control. "Vyborg" is how Russians renamed it after annexing it from Finns.
One more- straight-up said Sweden instead of Finland one time. Nope not gonna time stamp it, good luck!
Hush Swedish colony, your Helsinki was built in Russia and by Russians, before that your wild ancestors lived in dugouts, all the wealth of Finland is based on cheap Russian gas, unfortunately my government will not turn off your gas, because Putin is an agent of the West.
Vyborg was it's original SWEDISH name
*Viipuri. But also he's speaking English and Viipuri in English Vyborg. Just like he's not saying SUOMI instead of Finland.
@@user-o-something NO. It's Viborg in Swedish.
An excellent video on the Finnish - Russian relationship. I appreciate that you put it in historical context and include how Finland became part of the Russian empire. It is surprising that Russia has "shot itself in the foot" by its' invasion of Ukraine, as it is now deprived of warm-water access though the Baltic sea. I admire the Finns. They developed a strong democracy after independance and during WW2 they were the only German ally, that maintained itself as a democracy. No mean feat when allied with Nazi Germany. They have managed to keep a balance between Russia and Western Europe, and stay a liberal democracy. As an aside the Poseidon torpedo/missile sounds like a doomsday weapon out of Dr Strangelove.
You can't be that uneducated!!! Russia has 2 access points to the Baltic Sea and Finland cannot prevent Russia from doing so!!! You better ask what happened to the Finnish economy after Finland announced the closure of the border with Russia... Finland historically and geographically has always been dependent on Russia!!!
@@user-zi3li3np4oзачем ему быть умным, CNN и BBC думают за него
@@user-zi3li3np4o totally, totally... no. they can just be dependent on other nations. dumb
@@user-zi3li3np4oНу, главное ведь с пеной у рта сказать о том, какая Россия гадкая и неумеющая играть в шахматы.) Большего и не надо тому, кто верит в бред, что Финляндия этим вступлением и себе не навредила.
Thank you for this history. It always seemed strange to me which side Finland chose in WW2. It makes sense that their choice was "against Russia"
Better dead than red.
@@mielikuvitelma it certainly seems that in regards to Finland's position during WW2, they didn't have any particularly good options
Before ww2 baltics tried to make baltic sea union or something like that with poland and finland, but they refused .
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
The US alliance with Russia was strange, to put it lightly. But since we were allied with Britain, and Britain was at war with Germany, and Germany was allied with Japan, who was also an enemy of Russia dating way back.
I am from Finland. I have always supported my country and Sweden joining to Nato. I have done a military service just as most here in Finland have. For me it also means that I keep myself in good shape for general life and for conflict. I am always ready to defend any EU or Nato territory, because I want to. Ofc I hope there is no conflict coming but I'm not scared of death and horror. I respect Europe so much that I have a very high motivation to defend the place I have grown-up if necessary. Europe is my place to be.🤙😊🌞
Just like the communists wanted to drag us into the Warsaw pact during the cold war. For some reason, useful idiots just love to drag us into foreign spheres of influence. Too bad this time they actually succeeded. I guess sovereignty and independence is not for us.
Do you respect every country to protect its citizens from the violence of wars?
So happy to hear it norwegian here, we're SUPER happy to have you guys join us ❤
The EU is kaput. I think if you lived in the west of Europe, that would be more obvious, fine to 'stand up' to an illegal invasion but when it is an ideological obsession by some old EU people then it is destructive.
Finland being in NATO is no protection, it makes it a target and is a provocation. Most people in the west of Europe I think have had enough really. Sanctions are a total failure it seems. NATO and the EU seem more irrelevant by the day.
Thank you, from an American. My grandma came over here when the First World War broke out, with her parents. They were all from Pori. Eventually making their way to Northeastern Minnesota. I was ecstatic when Finland finally decided to seek NATO membership. You’ve been training with us for years anyway. Kiitos ✌🏻🇺🇸✊🏼 🇫🇮
I know somebody must have written this somewhere ... but ...
Sweden fought wars after 1809. Sweden was in alliance with Britain, dependant on iron export ... then they allied with Russia and Prussia, and the rest in the coalition against Napoleon and France.
Famous battle of Leipzig. Then they turned against Denmark on the losing side and conquered Norway, sort of compensation for giving up Finland. Norway disapproved.
Then during the Chrimean war Sweden tried to connect to Britain and help out in the Baltic, but nothing came of it.
Waiting for: WHY SWEDEN JOINING NATO CHECKMATES RUSSIA🇸🇪
I live just few km away from the Russian border near a border crossing point.... Since spring of this year, there has been interesting increase of air traffic, lot of big ass choppers flying around on same routes, including those French ones with gun attached below. I've ever seen those flown by twos and threes outside of big exercises before and this has become a routine. Gone are the lone border guard choppers, now its twos and threes of air force stuff. Also the local army base has become far more active, I can hear the gunshots from their shooting range. Whole lot more of machinegun fire than before and I'm talking more than just RK's. Just days ago they were also shooting artillery over there, huge loud bangs over and over. I haven't heard mortals for quite a while. All this activity is normal here, but not with this frequency. The local base has a fast response spec ops guys, I bet they're given extra ammunition to burn on the range as there's so much more noise. Never heard this much shooting and seen this kind of air traffic before. Which is great, keep them on their toes.
Teet vihollisen vakoilutoimen niiden puolesta tämmöisillä kommenteilla
Good to know, respect to the Finns, aka The Winter War. Welcome to the NATO club Sir.
sadly the Second Cold War has arrived (it arrived 10 yrs ago, but now at least the Ostriches can no longer claim its not here)
It's the same here in sweden, our millitary has been extremely active these past months.
Wow, Russia should put a nuke then instead of using conventional weapons.
Contribute to climate change, much?
Who else is rewatching this after Finland officially joined NATO?
This video got recommended to me when that happened but I didn't know it existed before then
I am^^ Russia invaded Ukraine because of their gas fields and the port on crimea, but also to keep Nato away from their border.... Provoking even more countries bordering them to join Nato... What a fail. I hope russia loses the war and then gets split up like the soviet union. Most of their country isn't inhabited by russians anyways, they should get their own countries.
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Silly Fins mow they're going to be targeted with nukes
@@stephenlennon7369 then article 5 will be activated and the world will go kaboom.
make this updated for august plz
5:35 i genuinely thought that was Illinois for a second
Many of the motorways up north in Finland has straight, wide and flat sections, making excellent for landing and take-off for airplanes.
Why would you want to destroy your own relatives? I am 10% Viking, for example.
Do not translate!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପିତ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତୁମେ ମରିବ, ଅଭିଶାପକୁ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସବସ୍କ୍ରାଇବ କରିବା .....
This is just one example of how ready Finland is and have plans for if there is a invasion threatening it.
Sweden=great military industry.
Finland=great and highly motivated fighters
=Unstoppable Duo