Glad it worked OK I aimed for 2% and got within 10% ! I needed £100 worth of polystyrene incline to do my layout - You did all the hard work anyway it just needed you to cut the supports to the correct height and avoid the expense. I actually used a couple of sheets of Celotex to provide three levels - A single track return loop under the main level and a raised station above.
That's an excellent result Graham. The use of the dowels to fix the parts of the incline has worked really well and your Scotsman made light work of the pulling its train. There was no wheel slip even when it started up the incline. Stephen
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
Great stuff! I'm in the process of building an incline so I know it's not an easy job. I wanted to have a shuttle service for my two DMUs to run from my main station (on one level) around to my country station (which is on the bottom level). Somehow though I have to navigate around the TMD which I'm also building right now. Considering they're plastic wheel on your coaches that 'Scotsman' did a very good job - but then again, so did you! Thanks for the video.
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
INCLINES ! A 3% Gradient is 1 in 33.3 in standard British parlance. Such a gradient is extremely steep for a Railway. The Famous Hemerdon bank just East of Plymouth is 1 in 42 (about 2.4%), and is one of the steepest mainline gradients in Britain. So steep that HST's were banned from this gradient if one power car was inoperative, and had to be assisted by a Diesel locomotive. Even gradients of 1 in 100 (1%) posed problems for trains. The laws of physics apply equally to real trains and models, as the problem is you are fighting Gravity ! In N scale the most powerful and useful models for climbing gradients are of course those that include Traction tyres. Not a popular idea in Britain, so few British outline N scale models have them. Hence with metal wheels on metal track model locomotives will begin wheel slipping fairly easily and will rarely be capable of pulling real life loads up even a 1% (1 in 100 gradient). Wheel slipping will of course increase wear and tare on wheels, (removal of chrome or other surface finishes) and inflict wear and tare on motors greatly reducing their life. Virtually all Overseas N scale manufacturers, such as Fleischmann, Roco, Tomix, Kato, Micro Ace, fit two or more traction tyres as the norm. Which allows such models to virtually double (or more) the loads they can haul without imposing damaging stresses on motors and wheels. However the reason for the reluctance of British manufacturers to fit traction tyres to any model in any scale revolves around the general ignorance of the "customers" of how to use such models. Modern tooling now allows "Traction tyres" to be fitted without any drawbacks. But ANY loco fitted with Traction tyres MUST NOT, under any circumstances be pushed along the track by EVEN AN INCH. Or the traction tyres are likely to be "stripped/stretched", and therefore rotate freely around the wheel, negating ANY benefit they had when fitted. I've used Japanese outline N scale models for decades, on my exhibition layouts, as seen in "Continental Modeller", as they are to quote an advertising slogan "Rolls Royces at Ford Prices". And virtually every Japanese outline model comes with traction tyres, and I have NEVER had any problems with these items. Happy Modelling😝
@@grahamthompson6406 Always glad to help. The Model Railway hobby is so fascinating, but accumulating quality knowledge especially of constructional methods is always an issue. I always recommend joining a good local Model Railway Club, to short cut the "learning curve" !!!
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, couldn't do hole in lower board as beneath it i have a deep storage unit....G
Glad it worked OK I aimed for 2% and got within 10% !
I needed £100 worth of polystyrene incline to do my layout - You did all the hard work anyway it just needed you to cut the supports to the correct height and avoid the expense.
I actually used a couple of sheets of Celotex to provide three levels - A single track return loop under the main level and a raised station above.
Thank you, yeah it’s good stuff but can work out to be expensive
That's an excellent result Graham. The use of the dowels to fix the parts of the incline has worked really well and your Scotsman made light work of the pulling its train. There was no wheel slip even when it started up the incline. Stephen
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
Great stuff! I'm in the process of building an incline so I know it's not an easy job. I wanted to have a shuttle service for my two DMUs to run from my main station (on one level) around to my country station (which is on the bottom level). Somehow though I have to navigate around the TMD which I'm also building right now. Considering they're plastic wheel on your coaches that 'Scotsman' did a very good job - but then again, so did you! Thanks for the video.
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
excellent, love to see progress and a happy modeller
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, progress report coming soon LOL..G
INCLINES !
A 3% Gradient is 1 in 33.3 in standard British parlance. Such a gradient is extremely steep for a Railway. The Famous Hemerdon bank just East of Plymouth is 1 in 42 (about 2.4%), and is one of the steepest mainline gradients in Britain. So steep that HST's were banned from this gradient if one power car was inoperative, and had to be assisted by a Diesel locomotive.
Even gradients of 1 in 100 (1%) posed problems for trains. The laws of physics apply equally to real trains and models, as the problem is you are fighting Gravity !
In N scale the most powerful and useful models for climbing gradients are of course those that include Traction tyres. Not a popular idea in Britain, so few British outline N scale models have them. Hence with metal wheels on metal track model locomotives will begin wheel slipping fairly easily and will rarely be capable of pulling real life loads up even a 1% (1 in 100 gradient). Wheel slipping will of course increase wear and tare on wheels, (removal of chrome or other surface finishes) and inflict wear and tare on motors greatly reducing their life.
Virtually all Overseas N scale manufacturers, such as Fleischmann, Roco, Tomix, Kato, Micro Ace, fit two or more traction tyres as the norm. Which allows such models to virtually double (or more) the loads they can haul without imposing damaging stresses on motors and wheels. However the reason for the reluctance of British manufacturers to fit traction tyres to any model in any scale revolves around the general ignorance of the "customers" of how to use such models. Modern tooling now allows "Traction tyres" to be fitted without any drawbacks. But ANY loco fitted with Traction tyres MUST NOT, under any circumstances be pushed along the track by EVEN AN INCH. Or the traction tyres are likely to be "stripped/stretched", and therefore rotate freely around the wheel, negating ANY benefit they had when fitted. I've used Japanese outline N scale models for decades, on my exhibition layouts, as seen in "Continental Modeller", as they are to quote an advertising slogan "Rolls Royces at Ford Prices". And virtually every Japanese outline model comes with traction tyres, and I have NEVER had any problems with these items.
Happy Modelling😝
Thank you so much for your very informative comment, I’m fairly new to the hobby, so I’m learning a lot as I go along…G
@@grahamthompson6406 Always glad to help. The Model Railway hobby is so fascinating, but accumulating quality knowledge especially of constructional methods is always an issue. I always recommend joining a good local Model Railway Club, to short cut the "learning curve" !!!
Why don't u cut a hole out of the lower board then u can access the point and wiring
HI Sorry for late reply, but yes I'm pleased with this result, now I can start to sort the rest of the track laying, couldn't do hole in lower board as beneath it i have a deep storage unit....G