Good honest review, I'm on my second vehicle with the 6.5, this one has the P400 and I'm loving it. There is just something about that note. Missus says it sounds like a Greyhound bus at idle. and you are dead right about doing your research. Overall, a great review...
Yes great honest review, and so true about turning up the fuel, losing the fuel economy. I’m so torn. I have 4l80e auto with 3.9s behind mine and just love it.
I sent my 2015 GU to Brunswick Diesel in 2019 I have done 100,000kms in my 6.5L optimiser now and have never got the fuel economy you have spoken of, the best I get is around 16l’s per 100kms which is rare. Usually mid 17’s to 18’s and worse in city driving. I could really use some contacts to help with advice here in western Sydney, NSW there doesn’t seem to be many people I can chat to for help or any repairers familiar with the motor, any advice people have will gratefully received. Great video btw Thanks for sharing!
Hi Phil, check out the Facebook groups Aussie 6.5l chev diesel and Australian 6.5l chev diesel owners groups. Also some good U.S Facebook groups to, just have a search. My engine must of been running very lean, the pump was still on the brunswick run in settings.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 Thanks Craig much appreciated, unfortunately I have never been on Facebook and have been kind of proud of that fact, but it might be time to change…. I really need some help from a reputable diesel repairer here in western Sydney.. beautiful truck btw love it!
I got my manual 2005 gu patrol converted to a brunswick diesel and love it.ive just done 10,000kms towing a combined weight of 6.2 tonnes of car and caravan...fuel consumption at 110kmph is 22ltr per 100. And around 21ltr per 100 driving at 100kmph. I also had a dyno a few thousand k's ago and it produced 584nm at the wheels.i was told as the engine wears in that figure will rise a bit.. Great engine so far and sounds awesome.
Hi Troy, that's great torque numbers at the wheels. Assuming it's stock on the Brunswick pump settings. These things just chug along pulling weight all day. Nice big lazy V8. 👍
Thanks heaps for the video. We've had our Optimiser for nearly three years. I am still optimistic about getting it right, however it has has some issues. Thanks for the info on where to get parts.
Thanks for the great informative video. I also have a conversion and I'm having the surge issue. My question is did u have to put a flow regulator with the new lift pump? I have been told that it should supply 7PSI but the carter black competition indicates 14-16psi? Thanks
i have a 2003 chevy workhorse winnebago motorhome , first thing i did was move the PMD on a heat sink near the front bumper , the old girl has never missed a beat ,, 6.5 best fuel efficient v8 diesel out there , my rv weighs in at 8700kgs and i pull a 4500 kg trailer ,, still get great milage ons still overtake going up Mt Ousley , Rob NSW
sorry buddy i forgot i have the DB4 electronic pump , I have had to change it out after winnebago did a Tune up on the RV and stuffed it ,, They are very easy to work on ,,
@@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 Looking at a 95 Monterey with the 6.5. Can you share your general fuel mileage not towing and not in a heavy mountainous area? Thanks!
Great review, I recently picked up a land cruiser hj75 dualcab from Australia that has the Brunswick Diesel 6.5 conversion. Great explanation of everything about it. For me the 6.5 is much better then the stock 2h it originally had, out here in America our landscape can vary from smooth long straightaways to climbing 6 7 8 thousand feet. Plus with our highway speeds people fly out here. So it’s nice to keep up with traffic. My truck weighs roughly 6400 pounds.
They come with a 3076 Garrett , I put a gtx 3584 (ball bearing) from pulsar turbo systems with a .63 exhaust housing, .82 is to laggy (new flange on down pipe is needed for vband ) and grabbed coolant from the heater, also had an upgraded injection pump from Brunswick. Ran great!
You can add a pump and exchanger or small rad (and reservoir) for the interior cooler and it'll really drop the Temps and you can add ice to the system.
13.2 litres per 100km is good for the 6.5 on the open road at 108km. My 200 2008 Sahara with same accessories as yours at 3.8t was getting 15.72 litres per 100 at 110km with motor tune, lockup kit on trans, twin 3inch into single 4 inch
Hey Dave, yes it did pretty well. Especially with the 4.3 diffs, but the more I have looked into the more I realise the engine must be sitting bang on its peak torque. Around 2350rpm, at that speed. Would love to see the figures with towing a camper.
great informative video at least the way it is you can travel AUST without a worry ,as soon as you start sticking big turbos and big boost on you have to start thinking of all the fail points on the drive line PS it sound great way better than my modified td42.
Hi, thanks for great feedback. It was definitely a work horse, happily plodding along. That was the plan to keep it reliable, saying that the torque took its toll on the gearbox so i had to rebuild it. Check out my other video on the rebuild, was a huge task. I do miss my Patrol 😪
I'm no mechanic, and I'm not very well educated with engines. Could you advise me which would be best to buy, for a auto to manual conversion... really like the thick engine sound...would love to have on my patrol
I’ve got an opportunity to get an unregistered 75 series bruns diesel I just gotta learn how old the bastard is and no idea about cruiser conversions I’ve only found patrols so far As I understand it it’s cause the patrol is way easier drop in and can use most of your guts in the conversion anyway But I’m not gonna be hauling much just doin firewood so maybe a 2h would be right But it’s about FUN
Turbo 6.5 or N/A ? Just make sure it's an optimizer block, for more reliability. You can then Turbo it in the future. A 2h will do the job for sure though.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 n/a as I understand it and I’m waiting to hear when the conversion was done which then I’ll ask, but I’m guessing cause it’s so cheap it’s the oldie
@@craigslistofprojects3451 do you perhaps know what year they started whackin the optimiser in? I’m very convinced it’s the old model he said it was done in November 05 I’ve been scanning some forums but I’m gonna dig deeper now Ta
@@FJaypewpew optimizer was made from 2000 upwards. You can check the castings symbols in the valley of the block. It's either a brunswick reconditioned engine or new crate optimizer.
I considered this conversion in my 105 1fzfe. Ended up doing the fte conversion purely due to lack of info on the chev. Running 185hp and 650nm at wheels. Did you consider doing anything with your 105?
Hi Dan, if I had my time again, I would keep the 105 and go with an fte. I quite fancied turbocharging the fz, however the reason I hated that engine was the high fuel usage. You can't go wrong with the fte.
When was this one put in I’ve just sent my patrol down for the same conversion an quote says electric fuel pump did they work out a replacement do you know?
Hi Craig. I am about to get Brunswick diesel to complete my upgrade on my GU with the 6.5 Optimizer. What would you suggest i get them to do while in there to save me doing it latter? Like the 4" exhaust etc.
Hi Paul, a fluid dampner would be good if they would fit one for you. 4" exhaust is not really necessary to be honest. The trouble with the brunswick 3" exhaust is the bends are not mandrel. The Carter Black 15psi lift pump is a great addition to.
@@keithy363 Need to be careful with a 606, they generate allot of heat and have problems on the top end when you turn them up. The 6.5 is a good smooth runner
@@Terk131 all I hear from every conversion is pain in the arse , I’ve seen all the conversions done on UA-cam and the stupid amount of money spent on 20’year old cars with f all creature comforts it just seems be easier buying brand new with warranty and being done with it no conversion seems worth it , or just buy a car that has hood potential for power ups , even worse are the dual cab chops 🤦♂️ just buy a ram or f truck that has bigger drive train , more power standard than any 200 or y62 could dream of
@@keithy363 They aren't to bad if you can fabricate parts needed. I have done many conversions and most are pretty straight forward. The 606 is a good engine and nice and light but generates allot of heat when cranked up but its a power house and I would use it before a cummins.
If you run the air dog or similar fuel delivery systems you get enough fuel flow that the PMD will not go bad mounted on the IP. The turbo definitely neds to be upgraded and the Harmonic balancer definitely needs to be replaced, I snapped a crank when my Harmonic balancer broke apart. These engines are good if you tinker with them. They are not work horses like a Cummins but are good for little 4X4's and jeeps plus get great milage.
Great video full of useful information, keep on with these really handy and enjoyable to watch
Thanks Alex
I used to drive a truck with a 6.5t 4l80e and I loved it. I don’t understand why people hate on them.
Thankyou i feel relived about mine now with some proper infomation well done sir
No worries, glad it helped.
Good honest review, I'm on my second vehicle with the 6.5, this one has the P400 and I'm loving it. There is just something about that note. Missus says it sounds like a Greyhound bus at idle.
and you are dead right about doing your research. Overall, a great review...
Thanks Ralph
Yes great honest review, and so true about turning up the fuel, losing the fuel economy. I’m so torn. I have 4l80e auto with 3.9s behind mine and just love it.
Very true, am also so torn.
I sent my 2015 GU to Brunswick Diesel in 2019 I have done 100,000kms in my 6.5L optimiser now and have never got the fuel economy you have spoken of, the best I get is around 16l’s per 100kms which is rare. Usually mid 17’s to 18’s and worse in city driving.
I could really use some contacts to help with advice here in western Sydney, NSW there doesn’t seem to be many people I can chat to for help or any repairers familiar with the motor, any advice people have will gratefully received. Great video btw Thanks for sharing!
Hi Phil, check out the Facebook groups Aussie 6.5l chev diesel and Australian 6.5l chev diesel owners groups. Also some good U.S Facebook groups to, just have a search.
My engine must of been running very lean, the pump was still on the brunswick run in settings.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 Thanks Craig much appreciated, unfortunately I have never been on Facebook and have been kind of proud of that fact, but it might be time to change…. I really need some help from a reputable diesel repairer here in western Sydney.. beautiful truck btw love it!
@@philmarriott8084any update on finding someone in western Sydney Phil?
I got my manual 2005 gu patrol converted to a brunswick diesel and love it.ive just done 10,000kms towing a combined weight of 6.2 tonnes of car and caravan...fuel consumption at 110kmph is 22ltr per 100.
And around 21ltr per 100 driving at 100kmph.
I also had a dyno a few thousand k's ago and it produced 584nm at the wheels.i was told as the engine wears in that figure will rise a bit..
Great engine so far and sounds awesome.
Hi Troy, that's great torque numbers at the wheels. Assuming it's stock on the Brunswick pump settings. These things just chug along pulling weight all day. Nice big lazy V8. 👍
nice video mate, glad someone finally made an aussie review video on one of these
Thanks Marshall, yes not many reviews about. Had to do a fair bit of research prior to purchasing one. Thanks
Thanks heaps for the video. We've had our Optimiser for nearly three years. I am still optimistic about getting it right, however it has has some issues. Thanks for the info on where to get parts.
Thank you, glad I could help 👍
Thanks for the great informative video. I also have a conversion and I'm having the surge issue. My question is did u have to put a flow regulator with the new lift pump? I have been told that it should supply 7PSI but the carter black competition indicates 14-16psi? Thanks
@@sn0m no flow regulator at all, any excess is send back to the tank. The Carter black seemed to work great with no issues.
i have a 2003 chevy workhorse winnebago motorhome , first thing i did was move the PMD on a heat sink near the front bumper , the old girl has never missed a beat ,, 6.5 best fuel efficient v8 diesel out there , my rv weighs in at 8700kgs and i pull a 4500 kg trailer ,, still get great milage ons still overtake going up Mt Ousley ,
Rob
NSW
That's pretty impressive, I agree for such a big engine it really does sip fuel.
Have you had yours tuned ? Do you have the mechanical pump ?
sorry buddy i forgot i have the DB4 electronic pump , I have had to change it out after winnebago did a Tune up on the RV and stuffed it ,, They are very easy to work on ,,
@@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51
Looking at a 95 Monterey with the 6.5. Can you share your general fuel mileage not towing and not in a heavy mountainous area? Thanks!
Great review, I recently picked up a land cruiser hj75 dualcab from Australia that has the Brunswick Diesel 6.5 conversion. Great explanation of everything about it. For me the 6.5 is much better then the stock 2h it originally had, out here in America our landscape can vary from smooth long straightaways to climbing 6 7 8 thousand feet. Plus with our highway speeds people fly out here. So it’s nice to keep up with traffic. My truck weighs roughly 6400 pounds.
Hey, no worries at all. Thanks for the positive feedback. 👍
Mpg?
They come with a 3076 Garrett , I put a gtx 3584 (ball bearing) from pulsar turbo systems with a .63 exhaust housing, .82 is to laggy (new flange on down pipe is needed for vband ) and grabbed coolant from the heater, also had an upgraded injection pump from Brunswick. Ran great!
Bet it had some get up and go, mine must be running really lean. Gets great fuel mileage, but barely makes boost unless underload. 👍
You can add a pump and exchanger or small rad (and reservoir) for the interior cooler and it'll really drop the Temps and you can add ice to the system.
13.2 litres per 100km is good for the 6.5 on the open road at 108km. My 200 2008 Sahara with same accessories as yours at 3.8t was getting 15.72 litres per 100 at 110km with motor tune, lockup kit on trans, twin 3inch into single 4 inch
Hey Dave, yes it did pretty well. Especially with the 4.3 diffs, but the more I have looked into the more I realise the engine must be sitting bang on its peak torque. Around 2350rpm, at that speed.
Would love to see the figures with towing a camper.
great informative video at least the way it is you can travel AUST without a worry ,as soon as you start sticking big turbos and big boost on you have to start thinking of all the fail points on the drive line PS it sound great way better than my modified td42.
Hi, thanks for great feedback. It was definitely a work horse, happily plodding along. That was the plan to keep it reliable, saying that the torque took its toll on the gearbox so i had to rebuild it.
Check out my other video on the rebuild, was a huge task. I do miss my Patrol 😪
Any chance you would go the td42t over the 6.5?
Hey mate, did they upgade your dash cluster at all? i'm looking at buying one currently and it still has the original dash.
Brunswick Diesels make bulletproof Chevy V8 engine builds …I’ve heard.
Awesome vid man, thanks for the video
Thanks mate. 👍
Hey mate,
Can I ask why you sold the car?
Legend bro, really helpful. Thanks you
No worries at all, glad it helped you out. 👍
What’s the name of that color its close to what I’m looking for thanks brother
Hi, it's matte Army Green vinyl from Ebay. 👍
I'm no mechanic, and I'm not very well educated with engines. Could you advise me which would be best to buy, for a auto to manual conversion... really like the thick engine sound...would love to have on my patrol
Hi, well if you mean which engine from the bunch of 6.5s, I would say at least an optimzer block.
Don’t buy one, they are snot. They are barely an upgrade to a zd30
Nice video.. how much money this job, please.. ?
Where did you buy your intercooler from and what brand is it
Hi Roman, its from Brunswick Diesels in Western Australia. They install them as part of the conversion, believe it's an adrad intercooler 👍
I’ve got an opportunity to get an unregistered 75 series bruns diesel
I just gotta learn how old the bastard is and no idea about cruiser conversions I’ve only found patrols so far
As I understand it it’s cause the patrol is way easier drop in and can use most of your guts in the conversion anyway
But I’m not gonna be hauling much just doin firewood so maybe a 2h would be right
But it’s about FUN
Turbo 6.5 or N/A ?
Just make sure it's an optimizer block, for more reliability. You can then Turbo it in the future.
A 2h will do the job for sure though.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 cheers Craig
@@craigslistofprojects3451 n/a as I understand it and I’m waiting to hear when the conversion was done which then I’ll ask, but I’m guessing cause it’s so cheap it’s the oldie
@@craigslistofprojects3451 do you perhaps know what year they started whackin the optimiser in? I’m very convinced it’s the old model he said it was done in November 05
I’ve been scanning some forums but I’m gonna dig deeper now
Ta
@@FJaypewpew optimizer was made from 2000 upwards. You can check the castings symbols in the valley of the block. It's either a brunswick reconditioned engine or new crate optimizer.
Do you still have the Patrol mate?
Hey mate, unfortunately not. Sold it almost a year ago now.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 Damn, oh well I won't ask why lol
I considered this conversion in my 105 1fzfe. Ended up doing the fte conversion purely due to lack of info on the chev. Running 185hp and 650nm at wheels. Did you consider doing anything with your 105?
Hi Dan, if I had my time again, I would keep the 105 and go with an fte.
I quite fancied turbocharging the fz, however the reason I hated that engine was the high fuel usage. You can't go wrong with the fte.
Why the fte?
Hey how did you manage to fit your exhaust?
I bought various lengths and bends from ebay and just offered them up underneath and lots of trail an error later it was in.
When was this one put in I’ve just sent my patrol down for the same conversion an quote says electric fuel pump did they work out a replacement do you know?
Hi Juan, this conversion was done in 2015. They are probably referring to the Electric lift pump, you will get a db2 mechanical injection pump. 👍
Hi Craig. I am about to get Brunswick diesel to complete my upgrade on my GU with the 6.5 Optimizer. What would you suggest i get them to do while in there to save me doing it latter? Like the 4" exhaust etc.
Hi Paul, a fluid dampner would be good if they would fit one for you. 4" exhaust is not really necessary to be honest. The trouble with the brunswick 3" exhaust is the bends are not mandrel. The Carter Black 15psi lift pump is a great addition to.
Put an om606 from a merc in heaps more power not a lump
Of pig iron mechanical pump as well wouldn’t pay 35k for that
@@keithy363 Need to be careful with a 606, they generate allot of heat and have problems on the top end when you turn them up. The 6.5 is a good smooth runner
@@Terk131 all I hear from every conversion is pain in the arse , I’ve seen all the conversions done on UA-cam and the stupid amount of money spent on 20’year old cars with f all creature comforts it just seems be easier buying brand new with warranty and being done with it no conversion seems worth it , or just buy a car that has hood potential for power ups , even worse are the dual cab chops 🤦♂️ just buy a ram or f truck that has bigger drive train , more power standard than any 200 or y62 could dream of
@@keithy363 They aren't to bad if you can fabricate parts needed. I have done many conversions and most are pretty straight forward. The 606 is a good engine and nice and light but generates allot of heat when cranked up but its a power house and I would use it before a cummins.
What brand is your rear bar? I have the same one on my gu and think its kaymar but have no clue
Hi mate, yes its a kaymar rear bar.
@@craigslistofprojects3451 cheers mate 👌
Any chance of a dyno report for torque?
Hi Troy, unfortunately it's never been on the dyno or even tuned. Maybe in the future once it turn up the fuel a tad.
How much money this conversion like this 6.5 v8 in a Patrol
This conversion back in 2015 was $36k but included other work. This conversion was done by Brunswick deisels in WA.
Thing sound like a Jake brake off a semi 😂
Pretty hectic aint it 😆
The wind noise ruins it
If you run the air dog or similar fuel delivery systems you get enough fuel flow that the PMD will not go bad mounted on the IP. The turbo definitely neds to be upgraded and the Harmonic balancer definitely needs to be replaced, I snapped a crank when my Harmonic balancer broke apart. These engines are good if you tinker with them. They are not work horses like a Cummins but are good for little 4X4's and jeeps plus get great milage.
Yes they are good on fuel and if well looked after will just keep on chugging. We don't get the electronic injection pumps down under, all DB2s. 👍